100%, when you look at the stupid driver aids.... Lane keep assist - So you cannot stay in your lane????? Blind spot assist - So you cannot be arsed to look????? Automatic emergency braking - So you didn't see what was right in front of you???? Adaptive cruise control - So you have no idea how far away the car in front is or understand speed and distance????? Automatic parking assistance - So you cannot park???? Are we turning cars in the Microsoft of the motoring world. Make everything for the most stupid and incompetent driver.
@@jumpferjoy1st Reminds me of that line in Gone in 60 Seconds (Nicholas Cage one); "You can't negotiate turns, you can't maintain speed, and you can't parallel park. Hell, you can't drive honey."
Exactly the right question that should make you investigate deeper . Because the reporting on this issue is all word-of-mouth inaccurate and just being passed along with more and more misinformation. The actual issue has nothing to do with hoods flying open due to hardware failure . The actual issue is that when drivers forget to latch the front hood (bonnet) the Tesla software did not signal to the driver that the front hood was open. This over the air patch was put in to restore that functionality. Plenty of vehicles do not signal you that you left the hood open but the Tesla did have that functionality, and it was a bug that it was lost, and that notification function was restored over the air.
@@deeza3384 it's not, most tesla "recalls" aren't recalls at all, but people don't know that and it makes a great tesla headline that gets clicks. Funny how the Ford and GM recalls don't get the same press, its because nobody cares until it has Tesla in the name. Hence the first two words on this guys video, he sees the analytics, this gets him way more views.
Every car I have driven in the last 25 years had a warning light and alarm for anything not latched, boot ( trunk) hood ( bonnet) and doors. Didn't matter what make or model. So the post by Jeddin seems to inaccurate.
Might be that the tolerance of the hardware was outside the range the software was designed to detect. If changing the expected range in the software could fix the problem safely, then that is an acceptable solution.
Old school bonnet catches pop up when released by cable but still require the use of a hand operated lever to completely release the catch and open the bonnet, that's what you call a safety feature... there's a good reason that this has been the standard approach by pretty much all manufacturers
...until Tesla same along and threw the Book of Good Practice out of the electric window, re-invented everything but the wheel, and started selling their beta-test vehicles for use on real, live roads.
I've had both manual catches fail once in the past. Driving past a truck main latch failed, going kinda quick ripped the secondary catch through the bonnet/hood. I've seen others on motorways also.
Spoke to a business acquaintance this week who says his 2020 petrol Vauxhall Corsa can has locked him out of the vehicle on numerous occasions and sometimes when he comes to it in a morning all the windows are down after an update 😂😂😂
The first time I ever saw a picture of Elon's Garbage Truck, I thought it was a prop for a movie. I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to put something that ugly into production.
they actually have no design, those angles and rectangular shapes happened because it's not easy to make curvy or bent stainless steel so they made flat shapes and welded them together, it's more laziness than a designer's choice
@@steveclark.. i have a 25 year old civic. it has an ECU but that only controls the engine. it doesn't need to know if the boot is closed. the simple circuit that tells me that has worked fine for a quarter of a century with no need for maintenance or repair. my door open light kept flickering on when all the doors were closed, i figured out which door it was and glued a piece of rubber to the inside of the door so it pushes the switch a bit further. no need for a recall.
@@rl3898 yeah i could drive around without a seatbelt on if i wanted to, and it's got an ashtray, with a light that still works. that doesn't need software updates.
Until recently I worked at an IT firm. The boss pulled arbitrary deadlines out of his (wherever), and I was working 16-18 hour days just to keep up. If I had collapsed in the office, of course he would've held his hands up and said 'nothing to do with me'.
What's interesting here is that reading the comments of this miniscule dataset, more ICE drivers in these comments alone have reported experiencing bonnets coming open on NON Tesla while they're driving than the entire reported set of 3 instances of detection without bonnet opening and yet that's perceived as a problem. Let that settle in. :)
There's a hilarious video on CZcams somewhere, showing a woman driving a Tesla Model S into a petrol station, and desperately trying to find the fuel filler cap.
@@matthewgodwin3050 Ive seen videos like this too but you can never be certain these days they are not staged, so many content providers just want views at all costs and this type of video is very easy to set up.
China is great at making Kinder toys, just don't ask them to make anything important. I used to work for a big European engineering firm that worked in the security sector, bomb proof doors, bullet proof screens and various barriers. As a cycle to look for cheaper supply, every five years they send out requests to various Chinese companies for mass production of single parts (screws, washers, angles). They are given clear requirements in metal quality, sizes, strengths, etc.. Not one Chinese company has ever met the required standard.
Big deal about recall. Was already fixed on mine by a software update. Had nothing to do with faulty hood latches only a notification if they were not latched l.
Nothing to do with the car being an EV, only how the actuator is...actuated! On a Tesla, the bonnet lock is a cable, actived by a remote actuator which is electronically controlled. There is nothing about this that constrains the process only to electric vehicles.
@@richardbutler4488ah yes. Aiden Ross. Thicker than a post. His hateful content got him kicked off Twitch. Kick signed him for millions and he immediately proceeded to stream p*rn even tbough a lot if not most of his viewers are minors. Trump's kinda guy 👍
Be careful what you post. It can be unwise to make potentially incorrect comments without linked back up data. Cybertrucks have ALREADY been reported to have saved lives in accidents where other cars have crashed into them causing severe external vehicle damage. They, and other Tesla cars are at the top of lists of the most safe cars on the roads.
@@rbnhd1144 it's very difficult to steal a Tesla. It has security cameras, tells your phone if someone has got in and they can't start it without a 4 digit pin.
I'm quite happy to knock Chinese-made equipment, but to be fair it's the responsibility of the purchasing company to ensure that 1) the original specification is fit for purpose, and 2) quality control should pick up sub-standard products. If the purchasing company cuts corners on specification or quality checks, that's down to them, not the original manufacturer, wherever it may be located.
Back in the day, I remember reading about a component supplier who produced rubber suspension parts for Nissan and Vauxhall. They had to put in an extra layer of quality control for the ones going to Nissan, as they kept returning substandard parts that weren't 100%. Vauxhall never returned anything, which is probably why the Nissan Bluebird was one of the most reliable cars on the market, and the Cavalier wasn't. Always made me chuckle, that story did.
@@rl3898And some are world leading. I've been blown away last few days visiting large Diesel engine manufacturing in China. World leading in most respects.
@@philhealey4443 That's quite revealing. China not signed up to Net Zero nonsense, burning tons of coal generating electricity so they can build World leading diesel engines. The green brigade will not be impressed. 😂
TESLA just announced they have abandoned the idea of opening production in Thailand and will now focus on charging stations. They have also sacked the team responsible for developing new production areas in Asia.
Yet more trouble for Tesla so anyone who says "you should have bought a Tesla" should now shut up. 😔 There's no point blaming parts - they should have checked before using them. 🤔
Nah, the hood thing is being fixed with a software update. No need for anyone to come out, no need to go anywhere, no need to do anything in fact. If you don't like it when you have to visit the dealership to get a recall addressed then you shoulda bought a Tesla 😊.
Glad you mentioned the elephant in the room My vehicles software doesn’t recognise the bonnet latch being open or closed either….cos my vans not got any software in it ! And if the bonnets not locked down being a 28 year old transit the bonnets own weight and shape will still cause it to stay down ………I keep hearing these evs are ultra modern and are the future but they seem to be very backward to my simple mind
There's plenty of people that get injured or killed in most work places. As for software updates they are everywhere phones, TVs, consoles, regular cars, etc etc I don't see a problem with that
It's not an unfair generalization to label Tesla owners as automotive ignorant operators. Teslas are appliances, not cars. They are designed, built, sold and bought by people who consider driving a chore. Why would they buy a car for that when they could buy a tool.
That weird. For some reason this morning a thought flashed in my head about my dad's car bonnet flying up when we were going down the motorway at speed back in the 70's.
Central software updates ... did nobody watch i-Robot, or was the message to subliminal for the modern generation. With the bonnet thing I am beginning to understand why manufacturers stick safety labels all over equipment telling us things that most with an smidgen of common sense already know.
Cardiac arrest due to electrocution? Let's hope we find out as it may prevent tinkerers trying to repair their own EVs. When there is a recall on ordinary cars, it may only affect a handful or a series of cars produced during a certain period. With EVs which have software updates, a software bug will install a problem in a car which didn't have it before. In view of endless problems with Windows, is this really the way forward for motoring?
@@user-eg7uw9ls4o Yep, software that’s seemingly easily hacked into by whichever nation chooses to do it & software that’s brick-walled by the people who create it. Worrying times.
We have a EV battery factory here in Sweden, and 4 people have died (at different occasions) no one knows why, no official statement atleast. There was another death the other day, but some worker drown at non working time.
Given the number of people, companies and institutions that continue to use Windows, despite its seemingly endless flaws, and further flaws introduced by automated fixes to prior flaws, I would say yes, there are too many people who don't question what's going on, and just accept things for how they are.
I have never, ever seen a bonnet catch that didn't have a safety catch. And I never even heard of a 'Bonnet not closed' sensor before. Sounds like a lot of nothing tbh. And good for you for not getting all twisted about the poor guy who died. Let's wait for the report. Just for the record, I am not a fan in any way of EV's!
As an IT consultant I am torn on over the air updates, you PC gets updates and we are at the Whim of Microsoft/Apple and I can see how Tesla etc will employ them. But this not a laptop or phone this is a car a big bit of metal and plastic and the manufacturers seem to be treating them as disposable. But I am worried if the car can connect to ghe Internet for updates who is reading the cars settings and making it even more disposable like apple do with iPhone etc
Geoff your generalisation on Tesla drivers is supported by the mot tests on teslas. Most of those I have checked on failed on tyre wear… also they fail on suspension wear. Southampton Mayors, reg TR1 ,model s , also had a frunk latch failure. Numerous tyres
I was taking a vehicle back to a panelbeaters after they had repaired it and painted the vehicle. It had no tail lights turned out they had not plugged in the rear harness. As I was driving it back, I all of a sudden lost all vision as the bonnet had been held down by some wire and flew up and smashed the windscreen and dented the roof. it's scary when this crap happens !
Back 10years we had problems in residential split air-conditioning, it turned out cable insulation was made out of sugar beet, our mice in perth Australia loved it. all wires coloured white, impossible to rewire cost effectively.
@mariojager43 🤣🤣🤣 The EVs are almost sentient beings so I'm sure it'll count as a hate crime too 🤣 They keep saying the prisons are full though so I'll take my chances 😆 Might be better off inside though... more food, more drugs, no taxes, no work, and prison guards getting jiggy with the prisoners 🤔 sounds like a permanent party, although I'm probably too old for that 🤣
@mariojager43 🤣🤣🤣 (You tube deleted my comment ) EVS are almost sentient, so you are probably right 🤣 I wrote something about prison being a party so I won't rewrite it because it already got removed once 😬 thought police 🤣
What could possibly go wrong with aitomated remote software downloads? Someone ask every airline, bank, supermarket and health service that uses Crowdstrike.
I once had a bonnet fly up. Wasn't a good feature. There was a very good reason manufacturers have very reliable back up manual latches. Shocked it is not a requirement.
It's disturbing that Tesla admits to using Chinese hardware. Speaking as someone who just bought another Chines coffee maker, and recently bought another Chines microwave, to replace ones that died.
so glad that you brought us up to date on the guy who had a heart attack while at work….how about the other 11736 people who died from a heart attack at work today?
thanks geoff. i cant believe the mainstream media havent reported this extaordinary news that someone had a heart attack and tesla release an over-the-air software update. the first one this week!! its vital work that youre doing!!!!
4 ‘healthy’ workers from car battery car company Northvolt have died in the last 6 months, here in Sweden. Their deaths are currently unexplained…. But the company offered thoughts and prayers to their families, very helpful.
This reminds me of the case where a Tesla driver bought a load of prawns for a Christmas party and put them in his frunk. But there was an issue and it wouldn't open! Tesla could not help til the new year, so he cut a hole through the bonnet to remove the prawns before they stunk out the car!
I'm pretty sure other brands do those updates too (like my Toyota). It's not just EVs that do it. Current Toyota hybrids have VERY complicated software, just as bad as the EVs. I think I have a minor recall on my car too though it's not a problem for me and they can't correct it yet. Modern cars (even non EVs) are suffering for the increased complexity as well.
we had a dump truck at work with spring loaded hood and if you twisted truck enough with taking off with heavy load it popped open we would get out and close it those were the fun old days
I'm not a big Tesla fan but car recalls are quite common for all manufacturers and this one seems to be another recall that it can be fixed with an over-the-air update, so not that much of a problem.
My 2004 MG TF160 has its bonnet opener in the boot. It is a cable. You pull it and the bonnet opens. It is quite a long cable and can stretch, so every 10 years or so you may need to adjust it. Easier than wiring a 13 amp plug! If the bonnet doesn't close properly, it wobbles on its stay and makes a noise. You then remove yourself from the car and push the bonnet fully down. Job done, no electrics, no fuss, just common sense...
You missed the news about the Cybertruck driver that died in a fiery rollover crash.....Thats gonna be a hit to Tesla for sure especially if the crash was a result of the thin rubber cog belt in the rear steering breaking.
I was with the Rover group when China took over MG, when looking to manufacture the vehicles the financial side were constantly asked how to reduce costs, one quote which got me was can we make the brake discs from a cheaper material 🥴.
US cars have always been rubbish. Massive engines and suspension that belongs on a pram (leaf springs). But to add to that Tesla seemed to only test their cars in their own local environmental conditions. Drive them somewhere cold and things stop working.
bollox most US cars are more reliable than euro trash and magneride was developed under GM, which ferrari has been using for years and most recent US cars have independent suspension tesla is a chinese junk
US cars may not be great, but historically, they were easy to repair, inexpensive to buy and own, well suited to US roads, fit for purpose, and reasonably stylish. European cars are better suited to european roads, but european roads were generally not well suited to travel. Some european cars were easy to maintain, but those days are gone. ost european cars were underpowered as a compromise to fuel efficiency. And, when sold in America, the european cars are way overpriced and very expensive to maintain (few dealers, unavailability of parts, few standard parts, and even fewer aftermarket parts in the US). In europe, presumably their cars are less expensive to buy and maintain and American cars are expensive to buy and maintain. The one thing that is universal is that the Japanese have done the best job of making nice, well built, long lasting, reliable, low cost of ownership cars. The Germans make really expensive cars that are finicky. The French make some pretty decent cars. The English and Italians make very stylish, but totally crap cars.
Bullshit ! My 1973 ( thats 51 years old ) Chrysler Town & Country ,7.2ltr V8, 9 seater station wagon, in the UK, ( Identical to John Lennons..) rides better than some Rolls Royce`s ive driven, with torsion bars front suspension, and air shocks rear, and, at 51 years old, is increasing in value every day, spare parts are stupid cheap...Its lasted 45 yrs longer than most Tesla Toasters who`s value plummets every day...
You are factually incorrect. Tesla does pre-test before launch in cold and hot climates. The issue during last winter's cold snap was due to some charging stations not changing the charger coolant to winter grade fluid - just the same as making sure you have anti-freeze in a petrol car radiator. I would rather be stuck in a blizzard miles from anywhere in a fully charged Tesla than a car with a full tank of fuel. I would be more likely to survive the cold for many hours - tested & proven fact.
"Over the air software updates", this means that the manufacturers have a back door into the control systems of your car. So, if your car was made in China, Beijing has backdoor access into every function of your car which is controlled by the software i.e everything, radio, door locks, acceleration, braking, lights............so, nothing to worry about.
WTF is wrong with a cable????? And why the hell isnt there a secondary safety latch on the frunk. Every vehicle ive owned has had the main latch and then the second safety latch. Although i did lose the bonnet off my mini once. It was my play/race car and some muppet forgot to do up the bonnet pins. Yes i am that muppet lol. What is with this mad rush to make everything electronic?? Especially boring useless things like steering and door handles!!!! 🤷
Single latch hood/frunk latches should be illegal. If when manually releasing a second latch on all vehicles.... nitrogen cylinders should raise the hood. Period.
When North American were building the B-2 Spirit bombers there were a number of serious health incidents which related to the "materials" being used. I'm guessing it may have been the adhesives but it could be anything. Don't bonnets have a safety latch?
A software recall is in no way less serious. Either way it means something is potentially dangerous, only with a physical issue- chaffing wire harness, weak bolts etc- there is usually an obvious and easily verifiable fix. Faulty software is a lot more ambiguous- it can be easy to fix one problem and create more, especially with things like self driving- with no real way to fully test it.
Worked with a guy around 20 years ago who had a heart attack, he suddenly disappeared, didn't know where he went, everybody looking in the building for him, what we didn't realise was he went outside to the car park area and collapsed, didn't find him for about fifteen minutes, when they found him he was dead, he was 49 years old.
By recall you mean over the air update. You know whilst you're asleep is fixes itself. The factory death is very sad but unfortunately very common in manufacturing. I hope this cements the need for unionisation is Teslas factories.
...and switch into self-driving mode (if you paid for that optional extra), which might give you sufficient time and peace of mind to pray more effectively.
OTA - Over The Air software updates means that even your ten year old Tesla will CONTINUE TO BECOME A BETTER CAR with each update. It also means that almost every Tesla on the road worldwide can be upgraded to run Full-Self-Driving software (purchase or subscription) and then become a hands-free driving vehicle (where regs allow,) and ultimately you could add your Tesla to the company's Robotaxi fleet when it all comes live. Watch out for the CyberCab unveil on /around 10th October.
Another good one Geoff👏👍 My 06 Dobló has a normal pull cable to release the bonnet, then I need to lift said bonnet up against the safety catch and pull the lever that protrudes from the grill to release that safely catch before the bonnet comes free. Don’t remember if family ‘56 Chev, with hidden filler cap, had this safety feature.
I have always looked carefully at my hood to ensure that it’s properly latched. Why do we need electronics to check these things when the electronics themselves can be faulty? Nuts.
How many petrol or diesel cars can detect if the bonnet is not fully closed? My car has a microswitch for the alarm, but I don't think it can detect if the bonnet is open. If it did, I would expect it to give me an alert. It doesn't matter whether it's an OTA update, it's still a recall if it's safety related. Being able to update the firmware by OTA simply encourages car makers to release cars with flaky firmware, instead of thoroughly testing it before unleashing it on customers.
To be fair as a Tesla owner I'm probably going to start forgetting car basics like checking oil levels, brake pad depth and orher things you don't need to think about when you have a Tesla. My son has pointed out a couple of times I've left my wife's car switched on (though she's told me it will turn itself off when I leave) and I've also left it unlocked once, I'm so used to walking off and everything sorting itself out.
You had to take yours in, that's pretty much exactly the definition of a recall. Tesla didn't have to have the cars taken in, that's the difference. Yes, the terminology is the same but a recall (goes in for attention) should be distinct from "software update" which has no impact to the owner. Not just for Tesla but for every manufacturer. The terminology is out of date for modern methods.
Ironically I have just driven out of a car park where a Tesla model Y owner was attempting to drive off with the tailgate clearly open ( by open I mean it was open by more than 6"). When I pointed it out to them they told me t😢heir software had told them it was open 🙄 So to answer your question: clearly people don't have the intelligence to use their eyes to tell them that something is wrong 🤣 At least on a positive note, for the bonnet latch issue they are getting a recall unlike Renault when their bonnet latches failed on their cars going down the motorway and would fold back on the windscreen. Just for clarity I'm not a Tesla owner or fan boy but I would say pretty much every car on the road today has parts made in China now, so I can't see anything changing, anytime soon😭
My 2007 Mercury has no problem letting me know if any of the doors or the trunk is not properly latch, I guess those simply switches with no software involved just keep on working. As for the hood the simple mechanical latch with the simple mechanical back up seems to hold the hood closed just fine or at least it has for 16 years. When the hood is closed there a very satisfying bang that tells me I have shut completely and so far it has never popped open. I suppose Tesla owners could get a good long bungee cord or ratchet strap that reaches from fender well to fender well to help secure the hood. There will likely be more heart attacks and such at Tesla plants as the stress of worry when the email telling people they are laid off takes its toll. On a happier note Ford has decided otherwise to convert one of their plants I Canada over to building electric cars and will instead build F250s and F 350s. Seems they can’t keep up with the demand for these large gasoline and diesel powered trucks.
Tesla has driving centres throughout the UK but you realise that this requires the owner to do nothing, not take the car anywhere, nobody visits. OTA update. You realise this yes?
@@oildrag Ah ok, yes those are "Rangers", they attend at home or workplace for those jobs that require physical hands on work where it's less inconvenient and can be done without taking the car to a service centre. 🙂 It's all booked through the app, no need to talk to anyone.
Our over-reliance on electronics has reached peak absurdity.
100%, when you look at the stupid driver aids....
Lane keep assist - So you cannot stay in your lane?????
Blind spot assist - So you cannot be arsed to look?????
Automatic emergency braking - So you didn't see what was right in front of you????
Adaptive cruise control - So you have no idea how far away the car in front is or understand speed and distance?????
Automatic parking assistance - So you cannot park????
Are we turning cars in the Microsoft of the motoring world. Make everything for the most stupid and incompetent driver.
@@jumpferjoy1st Everyone has AIDS
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@@jumpferjoy1st Reminds me of that line in Gone in 60 Seconds (Nicholas Cage one);
"You can't negotiate turns, you can't maintain speed, and you can't parallel park. Hell, you can't drive honey."
@@jumpferjoy1styes
@@matthewgodwin3050 spot on
Cybertrucks being mistaken for skips and getting destroyed by wild racoons is whats tickled me this week
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What the Eff.... the Frechdachs take the wipers.........
Racoons succeeded where bullets failed!😂😂
Submarine version is amazing looks like it has fuel that works under water too shoot along likerocket
I saw that too.
We used to call skips Skoda Cabriolets.
If Tesla says that the problem is due to the Chinese hardware, then how does an "over the air update" repair the hardware?
Exactly the right question that should make you investigate deeper . Because the reporting on this issue is all word-of-mouth inaccurate and just being passed along with more and more misinformation. The actual issue has nothing to do with hoods flying open due to hardware failure . The actual issue is that when drivers forget to latch the front hood (bonnet) the Tesla software did not signal to the driver that the front hood was open. This over the air patch was put in to restore that functionality. Plenty of vehicles do not signal you that you left the hood open but the Tesla did have that functionality, and it was a bug that it was lost, and that notification function was restored over the air.
@@JeddinI didn't know that there were vehicles that didn't signal your hood was open. That's an odd thing to leave out
@@deeza3384 it's not, most tesla "recalls" aren't recalls at all, but people don't know that and it makes a great tesla headline that gets clicks. Funny how the Ford and GM recalls don't get the same press, its because nobody cares until it has Tesla in the name. Hence the first two words on this guys video, he sees the analytics, this gets him way more views.
Every car I have driven in the last 25 years had a warning light and alarm for anything not latched, boot ( trunk) hood ( bonnet) and doors. Didn't matter what make or model. So the post by Jeddin seems to inaccurate.
Might be that the tolerance of the hardware was outside the range the software was designed to detect. If changing the expected range in the software could fix the problem safely, then that is an acceptable solution.
Old school bonnet catches pop up when released by cable but still require the use of a hand operated lever to completely release the catch and open the bonnet, that's what you call a safety feature... there's a good reason that this has been the standard approach by pretty much all manufacturers
...until Tesla same along and threw the Book of Good Practice out of the electric window, re-invented everything but the wheel, and started selling their beta-test vehicles for use on real, live roads.
@@CrowPalactually, they did reinvent the wheel…the steering wheel…now a yoke
I've had both manual catches fail once in the past. Driving past a truck main latch failed, going kinda quick ripped the secondary catch through the bonnet/hood.
I've seen others on motorways also.
Spoke to a business acquaintance this week who says his 2020 petrol Vauxhall Corsa can has locked him out of the vehicle on numerous occasions and sometimes when he comes to it in a morning all the windows are down after an update 😂😂😂
Those hideous Cybertrucks look like something knocked up for a Mad Max film.
No way, all the vehicles in Mad Max films are way cooler looking. The Cybertruck looks like something out of a cheap sci-fi movie from the 50's.
The first time I ever saw a picture of Elon's Garbage Truck, I thought it was a prop for a movie. I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to put something that ugly into production.
they actually have no design, those angles and rectangular shapes happened because it's not easy to make curvy or bent stainless steel so they made flat shapes and welded them together, it's more laziness than a designer's choice
The kevlar suite men in Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man movie.@tonyjofenig6833
Cheap production values on the body shape. 😂acknowledgment to fredEVOIX he said it before me. Cheers buddy😊
That “recall” is an Over the air update . Like your window’s laptop updating . 😅
Ah, makes me long for my old Ford Anglia, when if the window winder came off in your hand I thought it was the end of the world 😂
I loved the
Indicators between the front and back doors on old Ladas. When the cable went, a piece of string tied thru the window was a great temp fix
I have a 40 year old motorcycle, love it for not having any ECU or software updates.
@@steveclark.. i have a 25 year old civic. it has an ECU but that only controls the engine. it doesn't need to know if the boot is closed. the simple circuit that tells me that has worked fine for a quarter of a century with no need for maintenance or repair. my door open light kept flickering on when all the doors were closed, i figured out which door it was and glued a piece of rubber to the inside of the door so it pushes the switch a bit further. no need for a recall.
@@JTV84 I've a CRV of the same age and had to clean the door contacts for the same problem, and it didn't beep if you left the headlights on !!!
@@rl3898 yeah i could drive around without a seatbelt on if i wanted to, and it's got an ashtray, with a light that still works. that doesn't need software updates.
Until recently I worked at an IT firm. The boss pulled arbitrary deadlines out of his (wherever), and I was working 16-18 hour days just to keep up.
If I had collapsed in the office, of course he would've held his hands up and said 'nothing to do with me'.
No, they would say company most affected.
Did you know you can't share this to Facebook? They don't want people to know.
Even typing EV Carnage in the search bar of this platform, Tony's channel use to pop up straight away, now it's like they are trying to hide it.
I just did
Remote software updates are not just for EV's.
Guy must have seen the new design for the Cybertruck and got cardiac arrest....
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Forgive me Geoff, for I have sinned...been so busy watching livestreams about the chaos going on around us, that I've fallen behind with your stuff.
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So that's why there's a shortage of crisis actors.
What's interesting here is that reading the comments of this miniscule dataset, more ICE drivers in these comments alone have reported experiencing bonnets coming open on NON Tesla while they're driving than the entire reported set of 3 instances of detection without bonnet opening and yet that's perceived as a problem. Let that settle in. :)
Some people are that inexperienced with cars they would not know the bonnet was open. Or how to change a tyre. Or where to put the fuel.
There's a hilarious video on CZcams somewhere, showing a woman driving a Tesla Model S into a petrol station, and desperately trying to find the fuel filler cap.
@@matthewgodwin3050 I have seen a few like that and i think to my self people can't be that stupid. But they are. Lol
@@matthewgodwin3050 Ive seen videos like this too but you can never be certain these days they are not staged, so many content providers just want views at all costs and this type of video is very easy to set up.
China is great at making Kinder toys, just don't ask them to make anything important.
I used to work for a big European engineering firm that worked in the security sector, bomb proof doors, bullet proof screens and various barriers. As a cycle to look for cheaper supply, every five years they send out requests to various Chinese companies for mass production of single parts (screws, washers, angles). They are given clear requirements in metal quality, sizes, strengths, etc.. Not one Chinese company has ever met the required standard.
Still make junk ,noodles an example no nutritional value if it wasn't for that little sachet of salt? My dogs even turn their noses up at it.
Check out the Chinese fishing industry you will be shocked.
@@1gerard47 Having seen them spray rotten veg green to sell, I am surprised at nothing from China nowaday.
China is shocking full stop. Cutting edge innovation BS
Big deal about recall.
Was already fixed on mine by a software update.
Had nothing to do with faulty hood latches only a notification if they were not latched l.
In the US, the company said it knew of just three reports potentially related to the problem, and was not aware of any accidents or injuries.
EV's don't have a "second chance" on the bonnet like ICE cars do. How this passes Construction and Use Act IDK.
Does the Health & Safety Act apply to EVs?
Nothing to do with the car being an EV, only how the actuator is...actuated! On a Tesla, the bonnet lock is a cable, actived by a remote actuator which is electronically controlled. There is nothing about this that constrains the process only to electric vehicles.
Not to mention that Cybertruck, which decided to identify as a mobile crematorium.
Maybe that’s why someone gifted one to trump 😅 although I really can’t see him in one 😊
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@@richardbutler4488ah yes. Aiden Ross. Thicker than a post. His hateful content got him kicked off Twitch. Kick signed him for millions and he immediately proceeded to stream p*rn even tbough a lot if not most of his viewers are minors. Trump's kinda guy 👍
Be careful what you post. It can be unwise to make potentially incorrect comments without linked back up data. Cybertrucks have ALREADY been reported to have saved lives in accidents where other cars have crashed into them causing severe external vehicle damage. They, and other Tesla cars are at the top of lists of the most safe cars on the roads.
A Tesla recall is just done over the air.
Meanwhile the security system is in the OFF mode. I have to wonder why it comes with a security system, nobody is going to steal it.
@@rbnhd1144 it's very difficult to steal a Tesla. It has security cameras, tells your phone if someone has got in and they can't start it without a 4 digit pin.
I'm quite happy to knock Chinese-made equipment, but to be fair it's the responsibility of the purchasing company to ensure that 1) the original specification is fit for purpose, and 2) quality control should pick up sub-standard products. If the purchasing company cuts corners on specification or quality checks, that's down to them, not the original manufacturer, wherever it may be located.
Back in the day, I remember reading about a component supplier who produced rubber suspension parts for Nissan and Vauxhall. They had to put in an extra layer of quality control for the ones going to Nissan, as they kept returning substandard parts that weren't 100%. Vauxhall never returned anything, which is probably why the Nissan Bluebird was one of the most reliable cars on the market, and the Cavalier wasn't. Always made me chuckle, that story did.
Absolutely !! that really is why most chinese products are cheap and fail. Quality of the specification and quality of the manufactured item.
@@rl3898And some are world leading. I've been blown away last few days visiting large Diesel engine manufacturing in China. World leading in most respects.
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That's quite revealing. China not signed up to Net Zero nonsense, burning tons of coal generating electricity so they can build World leading diesel engines. The green brigade will not be impressed. 😂
TESLA just announced they have abandoned the idea of opening production in Thailand and will now focus on charging stations. They have also sacked the team responsible for developing new production areas in Asia.
Come on, they can't possibly fit a cable to open the bonnet, that's a far to ruddy obvious solution.😂😂
Yet more trouble for Tesla so anyone who says "you should have bought a Tesla" should now shut up. 😔 There's no point blaming parts - they should have checked before using them. 🤔
Nah, the hood thing is being fixed with a software update. No need for anyone to come out, no need to go anywhere, no need to do anything in fact.
If you don't like it when you have to visit the dealership to get a recall addressed then you shoulda bought a Tesla 😊.
Tesla fanboys always deflect blame away from Tesla whenever something goes wrong. Their religion can never be questioned or criticised.
The Chinese company will manufacture a component to the buyer’s spec. Tesla trying to palm the blame off on others
Glad you mentioned the elephant in the room
My vehicles software doesn’t recognise the bonnet latch being open or closed either….cos my vans not got any software in it !
And if the bonnets not locked down being a 28 year old transit the bonnets own weight and shape will still cause it to stay down ………I keep hearing these evs are ultra modern and are the future but they seem to be very backward to my simple mind
There's plenty of people that get injured or killed in most work places.
As for software updates they are everywhere phones, TVs, consoles, regular cars, etc etc I don't see a problem with that
It's not an unfair generalization to label Tesla owners as automotive ignorant operators. Teslas are appliances, not cars. They are designed, built, sold and bought by people who consider driving a chore. Why would they buy a car for that when they could buy a tool.
They are tools
Most of them ya. Have hope that some of them will start seeing the light.(Eventually)
@@user-ug4lt3yr5wNot if the cost of charging keeps going up…… ‘Hello darkness my old friend’
@@edwardsierpowski3839 that is a good point
@@edwardsierpowski3839"keeps going up"?
It seems to have gone down. What's your extensive personal experience of this as it seems you are informed?
That weird. For some reason this morning a thought flashed in my head about my dad's car bonnet flying up when we were going down the motorway at speed back in the 70's.
Love you vids man. Off work atm so usually first viewer lol. Big love from Bristol
Central software updates ... did nobody watch i-Robot, or was the message to subliminal for the modern generation. With the bonnet thing I am beginning to understand why manufacturers stick safety labels all over equipment telling us things that most with an smidgen of common sense already know.
But at least he's bringing it to Sir Keith
Cardiac arrest due to electrocution? Let's hope we find out as it may prevent tinkerers trying to repair their own EVs.
When there is a recall on ordinary cars, it may only affect a handful or a series of cars produced during a certain period. With EVs which have software updates, a software bug will install a problem in a car which didn't have it before. In view of endless problems with Windows, is this really the way forward for motoring?
Imagine buying a car you can't tinker on , unthinkable.
This is worrying as the hole world runs soft ware
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Yep, software that’s seemingly easily hacked into by whichever nation chooses to do it & software that’s brick-walled by the people who create it.
Worrying times.
We have a EV battery factory here in Sweden, and 4 people have died (at different occasions) no one knows why, no official statement atleast. There was another death the other day, but some worker drown at non working time.
Given the number of people, companies and institutions that continue to use Windows, despite its seemingly endless flaws, and further flaws introduced by automated fixes to prior flaws, I would say yes, there are too many people who don't question what's going on, and just accept things for how they are.
I wonder if a faulty ball joint can be fixed with a software update, after all another manufacturer fixed a brake fault with one.
I have never, ever seen a bonnet catch that didn't have a safety catch. And I never even heard of a 'Bonnet not closed' sensor before. Sounds like a lot of nothing tbh. And good for you for not getting all twisted about the poor guy who died. Let's wait for the report. Just for the record, I am not a fan in any way of EV's!
Aren’t they updating the software wirelessly?
Do they come with a bit sticker on the bottom saying ‘Made In China’?
As an IT consultant I am torn on over the air updates, you PC gets updates and we are at the Whim of Microsoft/Apple and I can see how Tesla etc will employ them. But this not a laptop or phone this is a car a big bit of metal and plastic and the manufacturers seem to be treating them as disposable. But I am worried if the car can connect to ghe Internet for updates who is reading the cars settings and making it even more disposable like apple do with iPhone etc
Imagine if that connection got hacked for malicious purposes, and all the safety and control features were "updated".
Geoff your generalisation on Tesla drivers is supported by the mot tests on teslas. Most of those I have checked on failed on tyre wear… also they fail on suspension wear. Southampton Mayors, reg TR1 ,model s , also had a frunk latch failure. Numerous tyres
I was taking a vehicle back to a panelbeaters after they had repaired it and painted the vehicle. It had no tail lights turned out they had not plugged in the rear harness. As I was driving it back, I all of a sudden lost all vision as the bonnet had been held down by some wire and flew up and smashed the windscreen and dented the roof. it's scary when this crap happens !
O what a bumpy road we have been diverted on to ! Apparently rodents and insects also like the new covering in the wiring !
Back 10years we had problems in residential split air-conditioning, it turned out cable insulation was made out of sugar beet, our mice in perth Australia loved it. all wires coloured white, impossible to rewire cost effectively.
No more EV sales!!!!!!!!!!
Shut it all down!!!!!!!
Cheers Geoff!!!!! 😂🌟
That statement could be construed as a hate crime against EVs 😂😂
@mariojager43 🤣🤣🤣
The EVs are almost sentient beings so I'm sure it'll count as a hate crime too 🤣
They keep saying the prisons are full though so I'll take my chances 😆
Might be better off inside though... more food, more drugs, no taxes, no work, and prison guards getting jiggy with the prisoners 🤔 sounds like a permanent party, although I'm probably too old for that 🤣
@mariojager43 🤣🤣🤣
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EVS are almost sentient, so you are probably right 🤣
I wrote something about prison being a party so I won't rewrite it because it already got removed once 😬 thought police 🤣
Anything that dangerous should be banned!
What could possibly go wrong with aitomated remote software downloads?
Someone ask every airline, bank, supermarket and health service that uses Crowdstrike.
Employee probably just taken his latest booster.
If the front hood is closed you know on Autobahn when it hits with a big bang in the Windscreen.... Maybe 6000 - 10000 Euros damage...
I once had a bonnet fly up. Wasn't a good feature. There was a very good reason manufacturers have very reliable back up manual latches. Shocked it is not a requirement.
Problems due to substandard parts coming from China, what a shocking surprise, who could have ever dreamt that could happen.
It's disturbing that Tesla admits to using Chinese hardware. Speaking as someone who just bought another Chines coffee maker, and recently bought another Chines microwave, to replace ones that died.
so glad that you brought us up to date on the guy who had a heart attack while at work….how about the other 11736 people who died from a heart attack at work today?
thanks geoff. i cant believe the mainstream media havent reported this extaordinary news that someone had a heart attack and tesla release an over-the-air software update. the first one this week!! its vital work that youre doing!!!!
Using proper cables would undoubtedly make the car heavier. Better save the extra 1Kg of weight and allow the car to travel an extra metre.
4 ‘healthy’ workers from car battery car company Northvolt have died in the last 6 months, here in Sweden.
Their deaths are currently unexplained….
But the company offered thoughts and prayers to their families, very helpful.
they were sacrificed to the goddess of climate change, Greta Thunberg.
This reminds me of the case where a Tesla driver bought a load of prawns for a Christmas party and put them in his frunk. But there was an issue and it wouldn't open! Tesla could not help til the new year, so he cut a hole through the bonnet to remove the prawns before they stunk out the car!
If they're in the frunk, they wouldn't stink out the car. Seems like a fake story to me. :)
Didn't Renault have a problem with bonnet latches failing while being driven. R5 possibly
Just had a look on the Web it was the Clio. Poor maintenance was the issue.
Another detection mechanism is when the bonnet wraps around your windshield at highway speed.
I'm pretty sure other brands do those updates too (like my Toyota). It's not just EVs that do it. Current Toyota hybrids have VERY complicated software, just as bad as the EVs. I think I have a minor recall on my car too though it's not a problem for me and they can't correct it yet. Modern cars (even non EVs) are suffering for the increased complexity as well.
we had a dump truck at work with spring loaded hood and if you twisted truck enough with taking off with heavy load it popped open we would get out and close it those were the fun old days
Remote software updates? Crowdstrike. No further comment.
I'm not a big Tesla fan but car recalls are quite common for all manufacturers and this one seems to be another recall that it can be fixed with an over-the-air update, so not that much of a problem.
My 2004 MG TF160 has its bonnet opener in the boot. It is a cable. You pull it and the bonnet opens. It is quite a long cable and can stretch, so every 10 years or so you may need to adjust it. Easier than wiring a 13 amp plug! If the bonnet doesn't close properly, it wobbles on its stay and makes a noise. You then remove yourself from the car and push the bonnet fully down. Job done, no electrics, no fuss, just common sense...
You missed the news about the Cybertruck driver that died in a fiery rollover crash.....Thats gonna be a hit to Tesla for sure especially if the crash was a result of the thin rubber cog belt in the rear steering breaking.
The cardiac, could have been a electrical short by the vehicle
Or the effect oh his multiple booster shots?
maybe he sat on the battery electric chair
I was with the Rover group when China took over MG, when looking to manufacture the vehicles the financial side were constantly asked how to reduce costs, one quote which got me was can we make the brake discs from a cheaper material 🥴.
US cars have always been rubbish. Massive engines and suspension that belongs on a pram (leaf springs). But to add to that Tesla seemed to only test their cars in their own local environmental conditions. Drive them somewhere cold and things stop working.
bollox
most US cars are more reliable than euro trash and magneride was developed under GM, which ferrari has been using for years and most recent US cars have independent suspension
tesla is a chinese junk
US cars may not be great, but historically, they were easy to repair, inexpensive to buy and own, well suited to US roads, fit for purpose, and reasonably stylish.
European cars are better suited to european roads, but european roads were generally not well suited to travel. Some european cars were easy to maintain, but those days are gone. ost european cars were underpowered as a compromise to fuel efficiency. And, when sold in America, the european cars are way overpriced and very expensive to maintain (few dealers, unavailability of parts, few standard parts, and even fewer aftermarket parts in the US). In europe, presumably their cars are less expensive to buy and maintain and American cars are expensive to buy and maintain.
The one thing that is universal is that the Japanese have done the best job of making nice, well built, long lasting, reliable, low cost of ownership cars.
The Germans make really expensive cars that are finicky. The French make some pretty decent cars. The English and Italians make very stylish, but totally crap cars.
The heated seats work well though. A little too well in fact 🔥🔥🔥
Bullshit ! My 1973 ( thats 51 years old ) Chrysler Town & Country ,7.2ltr V8, 9 seater station wagon, in the UK, ( Identical to John Lennons..) rides better than some Rolls Royce`s ive driven, with torsion bars front suspension, and air shocks rear, and, at 51 years old, is increasing in value every day, spare parts are stupid cheap...Its lasted 45 yrs longer than most Tesla Toasters who`s value plummets every day...
You are factually incorrect. Tesla does pre-test before launch in cold and hot climates. The issue during last winter's cold snap was due to some charging stations not changing the charger coolant to winter grade fluid - just the same as making sure you have anti-freeze in a petrol car radiator. I would rather be stuck in a blizzard miles from anywhere in a fully charged Tesla than a car with a full tank of fuel. I would be more likely to survive the cold for many hours - tested & proven fact.
"Over the air software updates", this means that the manufacturers have a back door into the control systems of your car. So, if your car was made in China, Beijing has backdoor access into every function of your car which is controlled by the software i.e everything, radio, door locks, acceleration, braking, lights............so, nothing to worry about.
Yellow caution tape is not allowed in the factories because Leon doesn't like yellow.
Had the bonnet flip on my 1st car 20+ years ago never happened again 👍✌️
WTF is wrong with a cable????? And why the hell isnt there a secondary safety latch on the frunk. Every vehicle ive owned has had the main latch and then the second safety latch. Although i did lose the bonnet off my mini once. It was my play/race car and some muppet forgot to do up the bonnet pins. Yes i am that muppet lol.
What is with this mad rush to make everything electronic?? Especially boring useless things like steering and door handles!!!! 🤷
Single latch hood/frunk latches should be illegal. If when manually releasing a second latch on all vehicles.... nitrogen cylinders should raise the hood. Period.
Back in 80s I remember driving along the M25 in an original mini cooper s and the bonnet came up...
Similar.
Driving over the Auckland Harbour Bridge (an eight lane motorway).
This is a simple detector sensor, make or break switch, how could you get that wrong?
When North American were building the B-2 Spirit bombers there were a number of serious health incidents which related to the "materials" being used. I'm guessing it may have been the adhesives but it could be anything. Don't bonnets have a safety latch?
A software recall is in no way less serious. Either way it means something is potentially dangerous, only with a physical issue- chaffing wire harness, weak bolts etc- there is usually an obvious and easily verifiable fix. Faulty software is a lot more ambiguous- it can be easy to fix one problem and create more, especially with things like self driving- with no real way to fully test it.
Needs a notification to say bonnet open, because the shit panel gaps make it impossible to tell otherwise........
Worked with a guy around 20 years ago who had a heart attack, he suddenly disappeared, didn't know where he went, everybody looking in the building for him, what we didn't realise was he went outside to the car park area and collapsed, didn't find him for about fifteen minutes, when they found him he was dead, he was 49 years old.
By recall you mean over the air update. You know whilst you're asleep is fixes itself.
The factory death is very sad but unfortunately very common in manufacturing. I hope this cements the need for unionisation is Teslas factories.
Parts made in China and software written by DEI Indians, it's a match made in heaven!
The work-around is simple - when the bonnet flips up, use a forward-facing camera to project the view ahead onto the display screen... 😉😉😉
...and switch into self-driving mode (if you paid for that optional extra), which might give you sufficient time and peace of mind to pray more effectively.
OTA - Over The Air software updates means that even your ten year old Tesla will CONTINUE TO BECOME A BETTER CAR with each update. It also means that almost every Tesla on the road worldwide can be upgraded to run Full-Self-Driving software (purchase or subscription) and then become a hands-free driving vehicle (where regs allow,) and ultimately you could add your Tesla to the company's Robotaxi fleet when it all comes live. Watch out for the CyberCab unveil on /around 10th October.
Dodgey bonnet catches always been a big issue with BMW's
Look how advanced we are as the superior beings, we're killing each other and plundering our planet, WOW ain't we intelligent??????, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Another good one Geoff👏👍
My 06 Dobló has a normal pull cable to release the bonnet, then I need to lift said bonnet up against the safety catch and pull the lever that protrudes from the grill to release that safely catch before the bonnet comes free.
Don’t remember if family ‘56 Chev, with hidden filler cap, had this safety feature.
I have always looked carefully at my hood to ensure that it’s properly latched. Why do we need electronics to check these things when the electronics themselves can be faulty? Nuts.
Absolutely mad,a bonnet warning, stop/start, electronic handbrake give me a break,and proper brakes 😂.
Just make them right in the first place!!! Stay safe the Geoff family!! GGG!!!
How many petrol or diesel cars can detect if the bonnet is not fully closed? My car has a microswitch for the alarm, but I don't think it can detect if the bonnet is open. If it did, I would expect it to give me an alert.
It doesn't matter whether it's an OTA update, it's still a recall if it's safety related. Being able to update the firmware by OTA simply encourages car makers to release cars with flaky firmware, instead of thoroughly testing it before unleashing it on customers.
I imagine you would stuggle to see the bonnet in a Tesla like most modern cars.
To be fair as a Tesla owner I'm probably going to start forgetting car basics like checking oil levels, brake pad depth and orher things you don't need to think about when you have a Tesla. My son has pointed out a couple of times I've left my wife's car switched on (though she's told me it will turn itself off when I leave) and I've also left it unlocked once, I'm so used to walking off and everything sorting itself out.
Had to take my Mercedes in for a software update, and guess what they called it. Yes a recall.... Telsa is just up in the air about everything.
You had to take yours in, that's pretty much exactly the definition of a recall.
Tesla didn't have to have the cars taken in, that's the difference.
Yes, the terminology is the same but a recall (goes in for attention) should be distinct from "software update" which has no impact to the owner. Not just for Tesla but for every manufacturer.
The terminology is out of date for modern methods.
Americans are simple creatures.....
I have never heard of a hood latch failure of ANY car built in the 50's 60's or 70's... do you find that very strange ???
Ironically I have just driven out of a car park where a Tesla model Y owner was attempting to drive off with the tailgate clearly open ( by open I mean it was open by more than 6"). When I pointed it out to them they told me t😢heir software had told them it was open 🙄
So to answer your question: clearly people don't have the intelligence to use their eyes to tell them that something is wrong 🤣
At least on a positive note, for the bonnet latch issue they are getting a recall unlike Renault when their bonnet latches failed on their cars going down the motorway and would fold back on the windscreen.
Just for clarity I'm not a Tesla owner or fan boy but I would say pretty much every car on the road today has parts made in China now, so I can't see anything changing, anytime soon😭
Just like people following sat nav and turning down a farm track and getting stuck. But the sat nav told me to turn right. Use one’s eyes!
To right the Cyber Truck is got is plate full of problems 😂😅
My 2007 Mercury has no problem letting me know if any of the doors or the trunk is not properly latch, I guess those simply switches with no software involved just keep on working. As for the hood the simple mechanical latch with the simple mechanical back up seems to hold the hood closed just fine or at least it has for 16 years. When the hood is closed there a very satisfying bang that tells me I have shut completely and so far it has never popped open. I suppose Tesla owners could get a good long bungee cord or ratchet strap that reaches from fender well to fender well to help secure the hood. There will likely be more heart attacks and such at Tesla plants as the stress of worry when the email telling people they are laid off takes its toll.
On a happier note Ford has decided otherwise to convert one of their plants I Canada over to building electric cars and will instead build F250s and F 350s. Seems they can’t keep up with the demand for these large gasoline and diesel powered trucks.
A recall without a dealer network in the UK 😂 ! A man in a Tesla visits your home or work is a joke 🤣🤣
Tesla has driving centres throughout the UK but you realise that this requires the owner to do nothing, not take the car anywhere, nobody visits.
OTA update. You realise this yes?
@@djtaylorutube no I didn’t ! I just see the Tesla support vehicles on a regular basis
@@oildrag Ah ok, yes those are "Rangers", they attend at home or workplace for those jobs that require physical hands on work where it's less inconvenient and can be done without taking the car to a service centre. 🙂
It's all booked through the app, no need to talk to anyone.
Not finding this pretty convenient timing geoff with what telon was up too ,nayghty. Oy ,
Maybe the aerodynamics keeps the hood closed, and when slowing down, it may flip open?
It's the Frunk Lid, we German call it Kofferraumhaube since VW Beetle time...