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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2024
- Dave investigates the role baffles play on motorcycles thanks to the help of our shop bike, a 2023 Road Glide Limited named GoldenRod, and several baffles.
JD's Cycle Works is located at 6146 Sullivan Trail, Nazareth PA, 18064
Smartest man I’ve seen in this industry. Sure wish I lived close to his shop……..
Thank you, that was really nice.
HOLY SMOKES! I have a 475C in my 107 with Bassani 2x(1)x2 Header and CFR Slipons and my TQ curve looked exactly like that. Now I see why my Tuner said I needed another exhaust or baffles. YIKES
I spoke with Dave last year and explained what I wanted. I ride a street glide with the Rockford system. He recommended the "quiet" baffle. These baffles sound great and are by no means quiet. It’s a perfect sound. If anyone is wondering if they are to quiet, the answer is no. It won’t completely drown out the Rockford system and has plenty of bark! Dave did a cam and a couple other things on my bike. The results were absolutely amazing. Still can’t get the smile off my face.
Thanks again Dave
This is the place to bring your bike!
Dave is a Smart Man, i also run the quiet baffles & the back pressure helps tremendously with the torque values.
Thank you very much, we are very happy to hear that you are enjoying your ride!
I've owned maybe 20 Harley-Davidsons and every one of them had the best all around performance with a spoon type baffle! BTW, that was the type of baffle used in most Cycle Shack mufflers!
WOW ! I always understood that baffles were important however, never realized how much it can change and alter the results. That was pretty cool the way you demonstrated that for us. Awesome Dave I really enjoyed it. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Dave for a very informative video
Great video. We appreciate you sharing knowledge with us. Keep the videos coming🤙🏾
Thank you for watching!
Dave is doing my cam in April. He convinced me to change my Tab zombie baffles to the louvered baffles. I just changed em over and glad he did a video to show the reasons why he recommended I make the change. I allready noticed I got some torque back from when I did the head pipe and tune. The tab louvered baffled are quieter at idle but still rip pretty good under acceleration. Cant wait for him to work his magic in April
We’re looking forward to seeing you soon!
Fantastic information thank you for schooling us Dave very much appreciated!!
Dave starring in Mythbusters! Thanks Dave. This is great info for everyone.
Thanks for your feedback, we appreciate you watching!
You need to trailer your dyno down to the Lone Star bike rally in November Dave. I know of about 12 guys who would line up for one of your dyno sessions (including me).
Great testing and video ! Thanks for your work
Great video Dave. Ill always use louvered baffles. I biught the tab mufflers with the zombie baffles in them. My road king suffered crazy low end loss with them. The zombie bafflesnare completely smooth woth only the slightest tapering towrds the back of the muffler. That was wasted money ill never get back. They do have louvered baffles but the pipes cost me 750$ woth the zombies and i wasnt spending anymore on baffles. Went back to my bassani rr3 stainless pipe.
nice presentation
Thank you!
I run the S&S 475 cam on my 114 with a Khrome Werks 2 into 2 exhaust with louvered baffles. Would be interesting to see the difference between the louvered baffles and just the cone reducers like what was put in CYcle Fannatix bike. I'm thinking of ordering them but concerned I will lose too much low end torque. They do sound awesome though.
I have the 117 with the S&S 475 cam along with the 4.5" Khrome Werks slip ons with the quiet baffles. On the dyno i am running 124 hp with 136 torque.
The numbers are great and I’ll bet the sound is awesome.
Good work, Dave!
Another fantastic video
Glad you enjoyed it
Good episode thanks for sharing your data
I have a m8 127. I had 2 1/4 baffles. Runs strong but so quiet. Decated head pipe. I just for fun had some baffles and changed the core to 2" straight pipe core. And it actually made it not just a tad bit louder but more crisp. Torque is a tad bit more also from seat of the pants feel. Wot it's almost loud, loud. I'm nervous to say, hey this is ok. But let's see some work done to baffles that shrink a tad and have no holes lol. My vrod had a destroyer exhaust with a fake cone as a baffle. This is what let to the insane idea I did.
Great video. I switched to that “spoon” baffle (HP+) from the louvered, and I felt it pull harder from a dig on my 124”
Did you open up the opening half way or you left it closed on the baffle?
@@asoshkin Left it
Outstanding info !
Glad you think so!
Great info Dave!
Dave how about an episode on throttle body sizing and proper throttle mapping
Nice job--thanks---Just wondering how the TABS would perform?
The zombie will have a heavier dip than khromewerks system without the secondary baffle. The tab louvered will be a huge improvement over the zombie
How do you feel about the fuelmoto Jackpot M8 Street Outlaw Chrome Slash Down Slip On Mufflers?
Hey Dave.
How much torque/HP do you lose from using the short reducer as opposed to using the Louvered baffle ?
I really love the sound and old school " Chop " the reducer gives to my 117 Road Glide St but wonder if it is worth the trade off from the quieter louvered baffles.
Love the content. Subscribed👍🏻 what’s your thoughts on using a 2-1-2 head pipe combined with kw mufflers with either baffle? I hear people like to use a different head pipe
There are only a few shops I have seen that explain baffles like this. To bad none of those shops are no where near where I live in northern Virginia. I really want to get my sportster a professional dyno tune and not a "professional" dyno tune.
We've worked with others all over the US, if you're interested, give us a call.
a picture is worth a thousand words. . So my fatboy 107 with screamin eagle 2 - 2
has probably the best low end tq setup ?
I’m having the Fueling 465, and these pipes put on as we speak. I didn’t even think to order different baffles. Will I need to retune if I add the quiet baffles later? I have the Thundermax tuner so maybe it can auto tune the change?
Dang David. I gotta get rid of my 2-1 and go with a Khrome Werks.
The khrome werks 2-2 with baffles seems to match or improve any 2-1. Go for it! You’ll be happy.
@@Hellbentbiker Thanks. And what do you mean badges?
@@125saito typo, I meant to say baffles.
@@Hellbentbiker Gotcha 👍
Want this exact setup except need to decide between Andrews 485 vs CR 483, your thoughts?
Will I get the same performance with the hideaway header? Or is the aggressor a lot better?
Does the spoon side go up or down? Or does it really matter?
Have you compared cat vs no cat? I've been curious about this recently. I have s&s sidewinder 2 into 1 with a short baffle and love the sound. I was wondering if I should leave the cat or remove it. I live in california so reduced heat would be a plus.
Baffling !!! LoL
Have any results on Khrome Werks 2-2 vs 2-1-2 header?
Those are Kromewerks "Performance Baffles"
Did you modified the baffle?
I have seen for the m8 motor having baffles works best. I have the same system on my twin cam 103 and Khrome Werks told me don’t run a baffle for the 103. What’s your thoughts on this? Thanks love all the videos!
Thanks Dave, very informative. Was the modification to the spoon baffle raising the spoon up 1"? You are really knocking it out of the park with your videos.
Yes I raised it up around 3/4 of an inch. Thank you for watching!
@@JDsCycleWorks did you recommend the spoon or the lovred ?
the spoon has it!
Hey Dave... I have a 131 build with Woods 22XE CAM and Rhinehart slimline duals. I am thinking of switching cams to Fueling 508 or 521. Which do you think I should select for my build or do you suggest changing something to get more low end and horsepower?
Send me an email and I can answer this more accurately.
Hi Dave are the S&S grand national mufflers good with a fuel moto head pipe jackpot 2/1/2. With a 22XE cam with the mufflers I listed or do you recommend different
That system should work ok
What about a khrome werks louvered baffle with a reducer
Did I miss it? What are those head pipes?
Great video but what is the mod exactly that you do to the spoon baffles? I don't beleive you told us. Watched the video 3 times lol
Excellent and informative video proving the theory that proper back pressure is key to getting maximum hp and torque out of the M8. I have the 2 - 1 - 2 exhaust on my RG. I was curious why you chose the 2 - 2 since many say that the 2 - 1 is better for performance. Is there any proof that the 2 - 1 would get better hp and torque numbers over the 2 - 2, or the 2 - 1 - 2?
I hope Dave chimes in but it seems like most 2-2 will hurt power but the khrome werks 2-2 with stepped headers and baffles does just as good or better than most 2-1 I’ve seen.
This was crucial for me because I have stretched bags and like the dual look.
A good 2-1-2 can run good as well but again it seems like some manufacturers have it a bit more figured out than others. This is were guys like Dave, that have experimented with different setups, come in.
The 2-1 will come on harder, to see a comparison please take a look at the S&S 475 video. The reason why I chose the 2-2 with the louvered baffle for this test is because the majority of my customers do not want to run the 2-1. The 2-2 system offers 2 functioning mufflers with a stereo sound and have different baffle choices and have a mellower tone than most 2-1.
Love this video,but I'll be nice if the numbers be visible....very hard to read ...Thank you
Khrome werks or nothing.
The ripper baffle only cleans up the sound at high rpm, no power gain. The performance baffle works best if you cut half the spoon off.