Gold or Silver - Which is Better?
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Gold or silver, which is better? I don't think it's the right question, but it's the question that comes up the most often. We're going to take an objective look.
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To me, a large part of the choice is how one expects to hold them. If one intends to never sell, come hell or high prices, then I think gold is the better choice. However, if one believes that if the market offers you a gift you should take it, then silver offers more opportunity, in my view. Twice in the past 50 years, silver prices have gone on runs that easily outpaced gold. However, those who didn't accept the gift and sell their silver saw all the gains go away. Personally, I think silver has another run coming - don't know when or how high, but I do think some time within the next five years or so silver will dramatically outpace gold. If and when it does, though, I will sell every ounce and buy gold, or stocks or put a down payment on a little cabin on a lake. To me, gold is for saving, silver is for trading.
I can see that strategy for sure. Silver could make a run at some point. I just don't think of it as being relative to gold. Cheers!
It's not talked about the whole lot, but the industrial side for silver and the next 20 or 30 years or less, looks to show for a higher demand than what can be mined, which would see private stackers turned to by industry for what they have, which might see supply and demand actually play out as supply and demand (as opposed to what we've seen through paper market games). Realize that's a long game to play, but something to think about for the grandchildren maybe.
Great comment. Very well put.
@@DrSchor For when you HAVE to sell.
If you don't sell you are left holding the bag for decades.
I like silver but I bought most of mine years ago when premiums were sane. Other than a fun coin here or there when I want to buy metals I'm buying gold. I appreciate the balanced take, thank you!
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Agreed, QS. I also stacked heavily from 2014 through 2019 and fondly remember buying ASEs and Maples for less than $16 each with a premium of $2-3 per coin.
That was only a few years ago but seems to be a completely different world than we have today. Silver premiums are coming down now and have been for a while
but a year or two ago, they were completely nutty, IMO. I never bought into that 50-100% premium nonsense. All I could think of then was, "How long will it take to
break even on these coins?". IMO, that could take years, which means that the cash spent on those coins was "dead money" until they got above water again. I do
like gold quite a lot and have a nice stack of it. I still have a goal to meet with gold, so will continue to buy when prices seem reasonable. Until prices become
reasonable, however, buying some 1/4 oz. Britannias seems a good idea. My next buy will be 10 of those little hummers, which will bring my gold stack to within
30 ozs. of my gold stacking goal. 🙂
Silver takes up far too much room and gets heavy real quick in volume. Gold is real estate you can carry in your pocket. Cheers!
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Depends on your location as silver is taxed heavily in the UK. According to the charts gold out performs silver on almost every time scale over the last 50 years it's also easier to keep secure and move .
I like the "keep the change" aspect of Silver. I have a budget. If I can't get what I want in gold for that budget, I go fractional to a point and then use the leftover for silver... sometimes. I've cooled on silver a lot since I started paying attention primarily due to the premium aspect of it. In fact, if it goes to a certain amount, I may sell to make up for some early mistakes I made with Silver.
I used to do that all the time. What I had left when I was at the shop got me some silver. Cheers!
@@DrSchor - I bought ASE's at insane premiums because I didn't know they were insane. I paid almost 80% premium before I knew any better. $41 a coin for 10 coins.
My stack ratio is about 80 to 1. But if for some reason the gold to silver ratio gap closed to about 50 to 1 I’d offload a good deal of silver for gold. 🤠
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We are on the same page! I am starting to bias more toward gold now, as my Ag stack is approaching 600 pounds. Getting a little bulky!
I'm at 81:1 ATM and will be reducing this via adding more gold and perhaps selling some silver and using that cash to buy more gold.
Agree on the off-loading at a particular G:S ratio. For me, that will be around 40:1 but I could see doing that at a somewhat higher
G:S ratio if the prices worked out for a decent deal... such as during a time of falling gold prices and / or rising silver prices. I'm in
no rush either way and consider PMs to be assets worth holding for the long run.
Always love your calm, collected demeanor. Great videos! The way you display your metals in a sophisticated manor is top notch 👍🏻
Thank you!
The high premiums for silver and the need for the added storage space makes silver a no go for me.
I’m mostly silver with a little bit of gold. I guess I’ll have to share my thoughts in a video. I really enjoyed listening to your rationale on why you favor gold. Thanks for the continuous high quality content.
Great video, thank you 2is1. I made a performance analysis on investing vs buying physical metals in the past 18 years. Silver was underwhelming which was due to the high premiums. Had I bought only silver, I would get 82% of the yield of the regular bank investment, principal plus interests, which means I would also get a lower value than the principal to begin with. On the other hand, gold in various coin sizes yielded from 120 (1/10 oz) to 125% (1 oz), depending on the coin sizes. If your objective is to accumulate more metal weight while targeting the highest value, the half ounce and quarter ounce coins are the best bet. I took into account the average premiums per product as well as the market spot/melt price at for selling the metals for each individual purchase.
If I have to get out of the house in a hurry, I'd rather carry 40k worth of gold in one pocket, than a duffel bag I can barely carry in 40k worth of silver. Thats what it boils down to for me
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@@DrSchor silver is nice. I just don’t want to buy a forklift if I have to leave my home.
Best comment of the day.
@DrSchor SCHOR buy it all!
I buy both personally. Gold is my long investment. Silver I buy with the hope of selling at some point if there is a run to silver, to buy more Gold. Owning both, I believe, is better than having neither. Thank you for another great video.
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Agreed, although my thought is that it is better to have either one than neither. But I do like and own both metals.
You will not live long enough to see any return on your silver. Good luck bud.
I started with silver an ounce at a time as that was all I could afford. These days I am buying gas and groceries. No metals. 😢
One can still stack in your situation, only in this case it will be an extra can of food here and there. A food stack works well. Been doing that since 2008 and am basically
my own grocer. This comes in real handy during the occasional snow and ice storm when roads are incredibly slick. It's best to wait it out at home but that's much easier
to do when you have the food you need in-house. Beans, rice, flour, sugar, and pasta also work well for long-term storage and discount stores like Costco and Walmart
often have really good prices on such staples.
You poor thing.You must live in England.You are lucky to afford food.
I’m mainly focused on Gold. It’s getting really expensive though. I’m buying 1/10 oz Gold coins now. I’m not comfortable buying Gold Eagles right now/too expensive.So I’ve been buying Britannia and I just bought my first Krugerand.
Both are good options. Cheers!
Slow and steady.
I buy one 1/4 AGE each month and double that $ in investments regardless of Gold price. Over 5 years now and it adds up sooner than you think. Bonus Buffalo once in a while also!
one of those are quietly way better than the other 2
@@InappropriateShorts which one 🤔
Same 😊1/10 gold every two weeks.
I have been stacking silver (primarily) since 2009. The first 10 years were a painful learning experience. The last 4 have been rewarding. Why? Because I have learned that you can't just keep buying silver all the time. To stay profitable, you must buy silver near the bottom of a low trend. Usually these occur about once, maybe twice a year. With this being said, this is why so many stackers are underwater with their silver stack. It's simply not as fun to only buy once or twice a year. But...if you do, you will be rewarded with a profit bearing stack that will endure almost any financial situation. I also like silver because (Hahaha...) when it's "fresh" and new and shiny...I think it's prettier than gold! 🙂
I discovered this obsession of precious metals and collectible coins about two months ago. Started with a few tubes of silver, bought one gold buffalo, and have only bought gold since. There’s something about the gold. 😍
Really enjoy your videos and balanced perspective. Thank you!
Same here
Silver is better for collectors. If you don’t care about premium or return, it’s way more fun to collect silver. And for that reason, I have much more silver.
I was in a quandary concerning which was (overall) better for stacking . . . Gold or Silver. Then I hit upon the idea - and age-old method - for making tough decisions; I flipped a coin. Gold won!
Then, it occurred to me that the coin I had flipped was made of Gold! Now I'm concerned that maybe that fact somehow skewed the results! 😮
Thanks for a well thought out video - as always.
Ha!
I just think of gold like large bills and silver like small bills and change. I take a stack of hundreds to buy a car but only need a $20 to buy lunch
Makes sense. Cheers!
I bought silver frm the age f 7 until could afford gold. Then I saved gold. The only bad thing is not buying.
Wow, nice!
Get whichever you can get closest to melt with less premium.
Buy the dips.
Try not to get sucked in FOMO.
Always think about if you ever needed to sell, how convenient it would be to sell. Selling an gold eagle is the US for example.
Thanks for your vids, always informative.
Good approach. Cheers!
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I look at my gold's historical performance and my silver's HYSTERICAL performance.
AND I look at how my gold and silver are currently performing. As of the 3/29/2023 close, my gold is up 42%, and my silver is up 5%. I haven't purchased silver since the spring of 2020, gold I've purchased a small amount this year. Thank you, 2 is 1 for the video.
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I struggle with the fact that silver is really an industrial metal. I buy both, but I’m far more weighted (in value) to gold. World banks buy gold.
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i buy gold for short term saving and silver for long term5+ years saving as gold has lower premium it will soon go up in valuer over the premium silver however is much mor volatile
“Different tools for different jobs” …said like a pro, and totally objective. 😎
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I think a good thing about silver is it also much like gold scratches an itch I get to buy PMs. I try not to think of my premium losses and just dream of a growing stack.
The people saying we will break out of the cup and handle formation for both Gold and silver may have been wrong, but the fact of the matter is those patterns still exist and are likely (not guaranteed) to eventually play out. Not only that, his calm, cool, and collective tone of voice undermines the outperformance of Silver during a precious metals bull market, especially by ignoring a 15:1 Silver to Gold ratio that is typically achieved and can be used to buy more Gold with your Silver. This guy is okay, but not that impressive!
Firstly, nothing is more beautiful than gold. Secondly, gold is denser and easier to transport
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Just ordered my second gold sovereign. £30 more than the last one I bought but I'm using them as a savings account because I struggle keeping money in my bank 😂 I love silver but the vat you pay on silver in the UK Is extortionate so not worth it. Sovereigns are legal tender so no vat or cgt
Both but premiums on silver are simply too high right now
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So what I'm hearing is my new plan of ~$250/month alternating between 10 ozt RCM silver bars and 1/10th gold Britannia depending on which is on sale for the lowest premium is a good way to go.
Going with 1/10th ozt cuz I just want more gold. Prolly will keep the diversity at the same(equal values in silver, gold, & plat).
That's the point I say is a tough call. Could go either way.
Right now high gold silver ratio and percentage of of all time high I'm favoring silver in my buying ratio. If you can diversify which you covered alot of reasons for that and is a wise decision in investing/ wealth protection.
1/3 of my silver purchases have lost over 40% . . I was DCA when Ag spot was $25 . . $35 . . $40 . . . Now -Today Ag spot is $20 & some change . . I have Silver that I will "NEVER" break even if I sell today
GOLD ? . . Now that's a different story . . I got into gold at $300 oz . . . ALL of my Au purchases are ahead of the curve
Should I take the punch in the gut and dump my silver and move thr $$$ into gold ???
Not asking advice . . . . Just asking you to share a " Let's Pretend for a Moment "
And as Always . . . Always appreciate your time . . . Take Care
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Gold suits my fear, silver serves my greed.
-Rick Rule (paraphrased)
Everyone has there own opinion, thought and expertise on this! Buy what you can and buy what makes you happy, it will be different for all. I have both, but over the past many years have been more gold heavy!
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I'm new to stacking, but based on what I've seen my opinion is it's not a bad idea to accumulate both metals, silver is cheaper so it's easier to accumulate but you end up with a lot space being taken up by one metal when you could have the same value and lot less space being taken up by a few coins. Gold is more expensive but you have way more value in smaller increments. Personally I'm buying both, and if anyone has any pointers or unbiased advice I would appreciate it
I don't think there's any reason not to buy both. It's when people tell you to buy one instead of the other that the advice gets suspicious. Cheers!
@@DrSchor nah bro, online poker -> Crypto -> PMs = a good buzz and profits turned into retained wealth.
I'm soured on silver, I'm more for gold. That being said, I still keep what I have and it is a great backup for emergency to avoid selling my precious gold reserves.
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@@DrSchor I do all three.
Ya, but Silver Slayer projects moonshots for silver!!!
Lol
Excellent shit
Ha! 😂
Has anyone noticed they changed the money creation category on the usdebtclock from federal reserve monetary base to US treasury dollars?
Had to look it up and, sure as shit, it's saying US treasury dollars. I guess I never noticed what it said before hand. Honestly every time I look at that site I just see one, enormous middle finger being shown to me.
Yes! I was like what?!!!
I am very fortunate in the fact that I get quarterly bonuses, so every three months is 2 or 3 ounces of gold, then my periodic purchases are silver, which maintains a pretty good balance.
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Good balance.What you earn on gold you will lose on silver.Good balance.
@@nickn6223 salty today! 😂
Rather have gold….can buy silver with gold, but my pockets aren’t big enough to carry enough silver to buy gold. Buy both, for different reasons. Good content as always, thx.
Thanks!
This was a very well rounded take on the two metals. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
This is my favorite channel! I like the critical thinking aspect of it, He doesn’t drink the coolaid.
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I can certainly see a good case for at least 1000 oz of silver after that, it just gets too dang heavy. I started with silver, then I changed to gold. I'm happy with my course of action
It's entirely possible that you're thoughtful insight, and no nonsense commentary, is far to compelling for a platform such as You Tube. To that end, I can only subscribe once and like all Your videos. 😁
Ha! Thank you.
I think you are referring to only the bulk bullion gold and silver products. Not graded 'collectible' products like proofs, graded, US Mint products, etc.
Even if its clear that gold performs better than silver, let me say a word if you are reading this comment and you are a newbie like me: at the beggining of your stacking journey you will find the gold kind of unreachable and maybe you will feel that its a lot of money for such a tiny fractional coin,... specially if you are in a budget (again, like me). Then go grab a couple of 25€/30€ silver ounces and start learning and feeling the value of it. Sooner than you think you will be ready for some gold.
This is me: a half year journey and quite proud about my 25 ounces of beautiful silver and my 11 grams of gold. Still learning where, when and how,... but for me this is my little pirates chest!
Thanks again for your nice content.
If that ratio ever closes I will definitely offload silver for the ease of moving gold around and value. Silver got me started, but its all gold for past 3-5 years.
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My preference, at this point in time is silver but I have been thinking about fractional gold.
I love that 1/2 oz walking liberty
It’s a great coin! 🤩
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I think when the question is to buy silver or gold, the only answer is yes. It's good to have a little of both in my opinion.
Thank you so much for your videos. They've been a big help to me the last few weeks of learning. I was wondering if you could make a video explaining your trepidation around Krugerrands? I've caught hints that you don't really recommend them, but I'm interested in a more comprehensive version of your take on the Krugerrand. Thanks
because they're 22k
AGEs are 22k also!
He’s In USA in USA AGE are king for quick liquidation at best price to seller.
@Andrew Sorensen Krugerrands are foreign bullion. Krugerrands are old school. People in the US are not familiar with gold bullion so they do not recognize the Krugerrand. 2is1 stresses liquidity. Krugerrands can be more difficult to sell. When it is time to sell, it is usually an emergency. You want ease of liquidity when it is time to sell. He recommends well known bullion.
@@glenh4971 Yes, he does, and this is in addition to his comments of having other assets that he could sell in an emergency. I can see this as a very good reason to stick
with the more popular coins if one does not have other liquid assets to use in an emergency, so perhaps in his situation, it could be more a matter of convenience and
a desire to make life a little easier for his heirs at a difficult to handle time.
My opinion: The amount of Silver stored should not exceed its value at the 1oz gold mark.
Silver is used more in everything peeps use daily, that should be noted. Long term, silver is better bet for production in electronics, Solar (Green New), and Space exoration...just keep in mind that Silver costs much less...seems like a gold bias here
Silver’s industrial application isn’t new.
But...Gold is always a safe bet...think long term, not reactive..so both have equal value in my opinion..I buy both and rhodium 🤑
gold is good if you need to leave the country, silver is good if the country is safe and you're hedging inflation
Gold. For many reasons but storage and transportation issues a major one
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I have a better day ..when I know precious metals are on the way .
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Grandma (not particularly savvy with number crunching) out of her sheer experience always thought Gold to Silver comparison silly but when she did she used Rule of Thumb and went for 2:1 meaning save 2 units of Gold to 1 unit of silver - which sounds close to the number crunching herein is all about
By the way Inflation was never her consideration since she had the luxury of eating fresh Produce including Eggs and Fish from her hubby's land holdings and meat consumption came mostly from her own chicken and goat that she had mostly as part of her hobby at almost no cost
So was her milk and dairy consumption from her 2 Cows
Now we are getting some where aren't we
I went to my local coin shop yesterday and he was completely out of 1 once silver so someone is still buying it.
Someone is ALWAYS buying it. I was at my local shop yesterday, and they had silver for days, though. $40 per ASE.
Being in that 200-500 budget range a month, it is hard to pick a winner. You pay less premium for a larger silver bar, but you lose that smaller denomination you were looking for. With that same range in gold, your looking at 1/10 to 1/4 and honestly they are not hard hitting for someone starting a stack. I balance both but lean more towards gold for a stable asset. 1/10th is all I could do for gold a month.
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There's nothing at all wrong with doing your best. If 1/10 oz. of gold is it, then so be it. In time, it will add up to a nice stack and is
a good way to hold wealth outside the financial system. But you do need to secure it such that it is much less likely to be stolen.
Well I thought about the low unit cost thing that is why I'm also deciding to buy some silvers also
Thanks for firming my decision ❤
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I buy gold when I get a good price on it, but only one-ounce coins. I don’t buy fractional gold because of the high premiums. My “fractional gold” is silver. 🙂
Not only do I look forward to your new videos,that outro has me enjoying the end of them too
Hey, thanks!
Silver is simply a vehicle for trading, as a means to acquire more gold when gold-silver ratios get extreme. The history is pretty clear - silver has sucked as a buy and hold investment.
It’s the high premiums on silver that have me only buying gold. I feel like there has to be a big upward swing in silver just to break even. It’s gratifying to buy more metals, but gotta stack smartly!
Gold. Without question. The only problem is cost, which forces most people who want to buy something to purchase silver.
Gold is my first choice but I have bought a few 10 oz. RCM silver bars when the premiums came down a bit lately. Thanks for the videos.
I have 2/3 gold 1/3 silver in my stack. I prefer gold but i have some silver just in case a shortage does take place or if things get bad ill be prepared.
Totally Team Gold. I started out with silver, but it got too big, too fast.
Do you think it's a good time to sell silver for gold?
Maybe a video on that on the horizon?
Great stuff, as always.
Stay gold! 👊💥😎
That's a tough one. I only know what I (did). Cheers!
With those numbers in mind, and the fact that gold is up near its ATH, and silver is about at 50% of its ATH, wouldn’t silver be the smart move now as it is essentially undervalued and underperformed in the past?
You always have steady good advice. I appreciate it. Thanks.
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Agreed... and the voice of calm cool collected reason beats the heck out of the hair-on-fire hysteria of most YT PMs channels.
It’s not so much your sophisticated abundance of real world news, but your ability to narrate with such a cool voice. Keep doing you buddy we love it!
Thank you!
Very good points. Thanks for the video.
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I like gold becuase of the premiums on silver are way more than gold.. Even if you can only buy fractional gold it still cheaper than silver. last time i brought silver it was 17.00 spot and i paided 21.00 per oz for ASE.. to each his own but i cant see buying silver ever again at these premiums
ALWAYS...thanks for your continued reflective meditations...you are a gem in the online "finance -verse" for ppl seeking insights and personal experience. I just wish my family could open their peepers a bit more and re-evaluate...liquidity is key! Anyhoo ..that's my problem to address . Appreciate your musings (and musical backdrops:)
Thank you 🙏
Based on what little I know and have seen, silver has advantages for smaller denominations WHEN the premium isn’t 30%!!!
I think it’s ridiculous what the premiums are and makes it not worth it. Medicine, ammo, tools, and other things can be used as money.
Great comparison. I'm going after both till I have a base weight of 1000 Oz's of silver then switching to primarily getting gold and feeling more comfortable getting Numismatics and other high premium Collectable pieces
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Is Kitco a good source of gold price? I use it as a reference for all prices.
For example, I look up the price of an ounce of gold on Kitco, then divide it by 2 or 4 or 10, whatever it is that I'm interested in, in order to figure out the real price of the piece and calculate how much the premium is. Am I doing this wrong? Any advice will be helpful.
Also, using the above-mentioned method gives me a difference of about 120+€ here in Europe. That's a very high premium. I think your Gold Eagles in the US right now come at around 60-70$ Premium. Should I ask for a similar price in Euro as well? How much do the import costs matter?
Sorry for so many questions, I'm new...
Great videos btw!
I like the history whether or not the SP did better than paper currency in the 1920's in addition just because gold was confiscated people still had gold because it was stacked or stored in their walls.
I loved your video. No bias. I do silver when I can spare cash. Gold for when I come on large amounts in cash. To me, it’s a just get some of whatever. The future of the dollar vs China and Russia, very uncertain.
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Ty for the video as well as your time 😎👍.. Still not sure, but have to weigh the options
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I just started stacking. From what I ve seen so far I ll only buy collectable silver like the 2 Oz Ostara Germania Mint or maybe a full series like The Queen Beasts ( a bit cheaper but with some prospects to keep the premiums in the future as well). Everything else from my budget goes into gold.
I buy silver because it's more affordable and can be used for barter if the dollar collapses. Its also a safe way to preserve your wealth than keeping money in the banks. The average american cant afford gold and it wouldn't go far in bartering. If someone can afford it id either buy both, or just buy silver but id never choose gold in a either or situation unless i had over half a million
The GSR chart shows an insane Head and Shoulders pattern formed over the past decade(ish). Right now, silver is prob a better choice as far as timing the market.
Because of a chart pattern?
@@2is1gold to be fair chart patterns tell the story before the story comes out most if the time...
@@detyelram2819 GSR chart patterns are accurate? You sure about that?
I don't do second place, so its gold for me.
Very objective. Thanks for your sharing.
Definitely serve different purposes
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Great info. I learned something today. 👍
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Lead might be more important than either
Great question. Kinda like, do you prefer blondes or brunettes? That being said, I'm stacking both. Pretty much done with silver due to storage space and focused on gold for now.
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Redheads.
@@dboi4952 lol, junk silver =redheads :p
That song at the end of the video makes you want to invest in a gold tooth.
Keep it up! The other channels get me whipped up to sell everything and buy more metal! I watch your channel and think….! That’s the point to think! Not react! Thanks
There's some hysteria floating around for sure. Cheers!
Silver is a better buy right now.
Gold would need to drop to $1,500.00 or less before I'd start buying it.
I'm strictly buying 1/10 ounce gold coins. It's about all I can afford.
Plus I love these little coins.
I do a 5 gram bar from time to time. Dig the bars.
History is clear - Silver had 2 events when Ag spot was parabolic . . I'm waiting for the next move up & I will dump every oz of silver and apply the silver sale proceeds to my debt . . I'm keeping my gold
Very good non biased review on metals...great job!