My nemesis: A bog oak cookie slab coffee table - Bog Oak
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
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I made a huge coffee table out of a 4000 year old bog oak cookie slab. Turns out that working with a bog oak cookie slab is really tricky, and I had a lot of problems getting it done. This video shows my adventure. Read more about bog oak here: www.wood-database.com/bog-oak
0:00 Intro
1:03 Stabilizing with epoxy resin
3:33 Flattening the slab
4:20 Epoxy resin filling
4:55 Wood cracking
5:25 Next epoxy resin filling
5:58 Flattening the slab again
6:51 Epoxy resin flooding
8:19 Sanding live edges
8:48 Mounting legs
9:31 Sanding
10:08 Coating
10:44 Glam shots
More about the power tools and materials I use: bit.ly/401tKyv
Welcome to my woodworking channel. I am passionate about taking the most wonderful woods mother nature created and turning them into beautiful objects of day to day use. This is not a DIY channel about teaching the woodworking craft, showing you new and nifty techniques about how to build wooden objects or anything alike. It’s about celebrating nature’s beauty and providing inspiration for projects of your own.
Thanks for your support!
Alternative wood names: Bog oak, Abonos, morta, Madera de turbera, Roble de tubera, Quercus, Morta, Roble fosil, Mooreiche, Sumpfeiche
Background music:
- First track: Guilty Bodies, The Polarity, artlist.io/song/8341/guilty-b...
- Second track: Never Mine, Bare Dreams, artlist.io/song/44375/never-mine
- Third track: Untitled, Bare Dreams, artlist.io/song/44373/untitled
- Fourth track: Papier-Mâché, The Polarity, artlist.io/song/8337/papier-m...
0:00 Introduction
1:03 First epoxy resin filling
3:33 Flattening the slab
4:20 Second epoxy resin filling
5:25 Third epoxy resin filling
5:58 Flattening the slab again
6:51 Fourth epoxy resin filling
8:03 Sanding
8:48 Attaching legs
9:31 Sanding
10:08 Coating
10:44 Glam shots - Jak na to + styl
Almost cried for you when those cracks appeared. Good job!
🤣🤣🤣 Thanks my friend for the compassion… it was a hard moment indeed 😫
Wow! Congratulations on winning such a beautiful fight! That’s a beautiful project. I admire your vision and tenacity.
Thank you for your kind words, that is really uplifting :D Yeah it was a hard fight, but the outcome was worth it...
wow beautiful! great job!
Looks like there was more than a few frustrating moments with this project. I'm glad you stuck with it and beat it at the end, you did a good job! Note to self - take 4000 year old bog oak cookie slab project off my bucket list of projects.
Oh yeah, Alan, many frustrating moments here. You seem to be a much wiser man than me, because look what I did: czcams.com/video/44pZunyydbE/video.html - I am still punting on it though, I am just afraid how it will treat me!
At first I thought you were being a big baby....it looked like it was going so well! OMG the end result is stunning though.
Oh man... that one brought me to my knees, I swear... the moment it started to crack open again, I wanted to cry
This is why you should double the price ! A classic example of get frustrated walk away continue. Looks awesome
Thanks :D And yeah, I can confirm that there was a lot of walk away and come back...
That is sick! What a amazing piece.
Thank you so much Cary 🤩
I love the deep rich chocolate colour! Watching this I could your pain and frustration my friend. Things rarely happen as you plan them. You persevered and was rewarded with a gem! Very nice!!!!
Thank you for your kind words Henry :D Yes, indeed this was pure pain. I am really pumped with the output, but man did I suffer... Things rarely go as planned, but sometimes they go completely sideways...
Totally! Gotta ask, what caused the extreme cracking? Was it high moisture content?
@@HHWS Honestly, I don't know for sure. It was for sure high moisture and the slab drying out. The thing was that it was sold to me as dry, and I measured it with a moisture meter using the settings for oak. My meter can only measure up to 2cm deep. So either there was moisture in the core, or the oak settings don't apply to bog oak. Either way, it was humid and that killed me...
Gorgeous!
Thanks, Sheila 🤩
El final visual quedo como una foto aerea del Volcan de La Palma en España emitiendo Lava Volcanica....... Que bien lograda está la Mesa. Felicitaciones Javi.
Gracias Juan, jaja, si, es verdad, como un volcan :D
Masterpeace ❤ Awesome job 😘
Thanks man 🙏🏼 Appreciate your kind words 🤩
Magnifique pièce, bravo ! Avec du chêne si rare et les premières réactions du bois au contact de l'humidité, vous avez dû être très stressé. Merci pour cette épisode plein de suspense.
Merci :D Hehe, oui en effet j'étais super stressé et frustré. Et Toni, le vieux menuisier de l'atelier me disait de jeter la dalle pour se moquer de moi. C'était un double stress :D
Geez this one gave you trouble😂 great work as usual. First I tought wow great idea heating the wrap then it leaked, then I said at least he has a large planer then it broke, then the bit OMG🙈
Hi Eric. Haha, yes, indeed man, it was like "What now you little b...". Toni, the old carpenter from the workshop kept telling me to throw the slab in the garbage to make fun of me. But I couldn't - it would have been too hurtful :D
Grazie Fratello 😘
Prego :D
thats beautiful!
Thank you 🤩
Wow das sieht mal richtig mega aus 👌
Danke - freut mich dass es dir gefällt :D
Man, it absolutely worth it!!!
Thank you, Evgeniy 🙏 Yeah, sometimes good things need to be earned through suffering 😆
What tension, I've had a very bad time for you,😅😅 hahaha.
In the end a great job 👏👏
Thank you man... lot's of agony attached to this one. Glad you liked the outcome - I did too :D
PERSISTANCE! Good for you.
Yeah, good things require suffering 😆
Espectacular como todos tus trabajos
Gracias ❤️🎉🤩
@@Woodensoul tengo 2 losas de olivo de 2,20. *60,que espero hacer para mí próxima casa
Olivo es hermoso! Que pensas hacer?
Amaizing 👍👍👍
Thanks 😊👊🏼
Wow!
Thanks 😊
I have a piece like this with one big crack and a few smaller ones. I have been researching how I plan on tackling this project. I think tape for resin might be an option.
Hi Amber. Yes, tape works in general, but it's not perfect. Sometimes you have leaks you have to live with, so make sure to put some cover on your floor to prevent nasty epoxy stains. Have fun!
Lovely labor of love! Wow impressive amount of work.
Question- what mounts do you use for the screw anchors?
Thank you man, appreciate your kind words :D I sue hex socket screws like these one: amzn.to/398jAmK
I’ve just started my own bog oak cookie slab… and I’m attempting to keep the original bark on which is making the preparation a little tricky. There are 2 big cracks right the edge, and I’m contemplating filling these (1 at a time) when he cookie is vertical, ie. on it’s side/edge, rather then flat. This will of course prolong everything, but hoping in the end it will help to preserve as much/all of the original bark.
Does that make sense? What do you think of this approach??
Hi Mike. You have bog oak with bark? I have never seen that. I have no experience with bog oak bark. But with „regular“ bark I just tape the crack and fill it, and that works pretty well. I don’t place the slab vertically (that sounds like an awful lot of work)
Awesome thx for the link.
Now I have to ask - any suggestions where to find such a huge planer in the USA. OK I can’t afford one or justify one, but whom would you recommend I contact? Lumber mill? Furniture maker? Yes I’ve made a router jig before and it works but takes forever. But also only using a small Makita trim router.
Needs: mainly slabs that are 20-28 inches wide. Thx for any advice. If there was a decent 24” planer I could be largely happy.
Oh man, I wish I could help you. This planer is more than 50 years old and one of the last 1m (~40 inch) planers left in Switzerland. They don’t make them these sizes nowadays. I completely lucked out. I don’t know the landscape in the US. Instead I would recommend you invest in the Stonecoat countertop router jig (much better than self made wood jig) and a good sturdy router than can work heavy duty…
Like it ✌
Thank's Johny :D
That is one of the most beautiful tables I have ever seen. I have to know, how much does a slab like that cost? I know you said a small fortune but people have different ideas of what that would be
Thank you Mike!!! This is a great way to wake up - glad you liked the table. That slab cost me 1000€ including shipping costs. Does that help?
@@Woodensoul yes Thank You, we’ll worth the price and effort!
@@mikewhittington3451 Well the effort was bananas, but the outcome was worth it :D
Beautiful piece
Thank you Danny - I am pumped you like it!
It must of had too much moisture still when you tried to fill it the first time.
That is absolutely correct
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
❤️❤️❤️
Amazing table!!!
From where did you ordered this bog oak?
Best Regards
Thank you so much for your kind words, glad you like it. I bought the slab on eBay, from this seller: www.ebay.de/str/mooreichesubfossileunikate
5:26 if you only put in small amounts of epoxy at a time, doing it in small layers and allowing it to dry would that reduce the cracking?
Hi Patrick. I don’t think so. The cracking wasn’t related to the resin. The most likely reason is that bog oak has a lot of humidity stored in the wood. I should have waited more time before working with that slab. I did measure the moisture, using the settings for regular english oak, and that showed it was dry Y I suspect that these weren’t the right settings, and that the wood was much more humid than I thought…
Where did you get the legs
Here you go: creatoriq.cc/3KQzaIa
Where can I find those coffee table legs?
Here you go: creatoriq.cc/3KQzaIa
I had a similar problem with cracking. I ended up making metal hoops welded and anchor underneath the slab. This seems to help with some of the forces that pull it apart. Curious about your thoughts?
I have used steel bars to stabilize wood, but that is usually only a good solution to prevent slabs from bending. The steel bars are usually not enough to prevent cracking, because the forces of the drying wood are too strong and the bars only "hold together" the lower part of the wood...
Thank you. The wood is already dry but I suspect it still moves with the environment. I hear you about the forces on the bottom. But I suppose a same argument can be made about a butterfly on top. Btw these are end grain cookies. Thx for your input.
@@dkt4728 If the wood is dry, you should never have such large cracks as I had in this project. I assume that the bog oak had quite some humidity "stored" in the core that led to this problem. If your end grain cookie slab is dry, you will still get small cracks here and there, but that is part of the beauty and I don't think steel will prevent that. If it bothers you a lot, you can fill them with epoxy after a while.
@Wooden thx - good point and I agree small cracks do have some beauty. We have a challenge is that the tables are in a room with a powerful wood stove - so I’m sure the humidity varies greatly. I agree with using Epoxy here. I really like how you use epoxy to stabilize and block the pores then go back to Rubiomonocoat. I’ve use it too and it’s great.
Question- why do you eliminate the use of the hardener in RMC? Advantage other than avoiding waste/having excess?
I have had people with similar situations, where the rooms were too dry and they solved it with a room humidifier, set to 50% humidity. That way you prevent the wood from moving back and forth over and over again. Regarding RMC: The main reason I don’t use it is convenience. Mixing leads to more rushing and more waist and increases cost. Some people claim that the hardener improves durability, which reminds me that I wanted to test this out one day…
Whats the black paste you put on the bottom?
Hi Pat. Its black wood filler: amzn.to/39m4QFq
where did you find that large heat shrinking plastic sheet?
You need to look for pallet shrink covers, these are large enough
@@Woodensoul the ones i found on amazon are titled as that pallet wrap/shrink plastic". But they're basically same Plastic foil you're using to wrap food... 🤷🏻♂️. The much thicker plastic you're using is different. Where exactly did you buy that?
Got you. I bought these ones: amzn.to/3KHqORq on Amazon.de. I am sure you can find similar ones on other Amazon stores (not sure where you live)
What do you sell one of these for would you let me know
I can make you one to your liking. Just write me through my Etsy store (etsy.me/3orQXch) and we can talk.
Hey,
was ist deiner Meinung nach des beste Öl für Holz und Epoxid??
Hey. Ich verwende immer Rubio Monocoat 2C, das funktioniert super für Holz und Epoxy…
@@Woodensoul Dank dir! Ich versuche es mal damit :D
Is there an advantage to using a coating like the Rubio Monocoat Oil vs pouring a tabletop epoxy thats self leveling? Just different finishes and preference? Im working with a wood slab like this for the first time and just looking for ideas.
Hi James. Oh yeah, there is a big difficulty between an Rubio finish and an epoxy finish. The most important one is that with a process like shown here, you have a wood table. Wooden parts are not covered by resin, they feel and look like wood. With an epoxy cover, you will have a glass like shiny coat over the entire table, the texture will feel like plastic. It’s completely water resistant, but it’s no longer really a wood table, it’s “platified” wood…
@@Woodensoul That makes alot of sense and thank you for the break down! I want to keep the feel of the wood so Ill have to get some of that Rubio monocoat.
When you work on a table with alot of smaller cracks do you fill those in with wood filler usually or just let the epoxy fill them in? Im going to be using liquid glass deep pour and I wasnt sure if it would handle smaller cracks as well or just deep ones.
@@smith459111 Epoxy resin binds really well with wood and will hold it together. Therefore, it gives additional stability to your workpiece. Wood filler is easier to apply and dries faster, but it has none of those stabilizing properties. I usually work with epoxy. Sometimes I fill the cracks on the bottom side of the slab with wood filler, just to close off the worst things with cheap filler, and reduce leaks. Then I tape off the bottom and sides and fill with resin.
@@Woodensoul that makes sense to me. This is all a first time experience for me but watching your videos is giving me more confidence. So thank you for sharing your knowledge.
My biggest concern at this point is if I’ll have to use the deep pour for my main fill that’s 3 inch deep vs the small cracks that are only a centimeter deep or so.
Deep pour works also for small cracks, but it takes a lot more time to dry out (often up to a week) and it's also much more expensive. Deep pours are useful for projects where you have large holes, cracks or rivers to fill, and you want to make sure you can do it in one pour. For projects with small cracks and holes, I would recommend you to go with the cheapest resin you can find, which you can usually only apply 1cm for each layer, but it hardens within one day. Cracks will require many fillings before you have them completely filled.
die Eiche ist von K.B.Resin oder ??
Nein, die habe ich auf EBay gekauft
Это ваша первая работа с мореным дубом или нет , если интересно то в личку могу скинуть свои работы)
Нет, мореный дуб уже не первый раз. Есть это видео czcams.com/video/-_jFKlk1USE/video.html и это czcams.com/video/bh9eAhASzKE/video.html, где я уже работал с мореным дубом. Но я бы хотел увидеть, как ты работаешь. Вы можете найти мою электронную почту на моем канале в разделе «Информация о канале».
@@Woodensoul czcams.com/channels/PEcdtoocdD7HL4KXjBL6eQ.html
Que pigmento usas?
El pigmento de Dipon
Muchas gracias por el dato amigo, excelente trabajo!!
@@carlosriveraperez3736 Gracias, Carlos :D
As someone that has had trouble with cookie slabs, i would have had a nervous breakdown on this one
Duuude! Duuuude I was so close to having a meltdown 😆
Music is a bit much 😅😅
Total cost of this project?
Oh gosh... slab + epoxy + legs about 2500 USD
@@Woodensoul I'm glad you went with the custom made base instead of hairpin legs lots of people use
Nice project.
Thanks Mike. Yeah, I use hairpins a lot, due the low price, but this project was so expensive, that I couldn’t use such cheap legs. Glad you liked it 🙏🏼🎉
Nice work : garbage sound track..what did it have to do with the work?
Thank you and sorry not sorry. it's just background music, if you dislike it mute the video and put on the sound of your liking :D
Hermosa pieza !! 👌🏻
Excelente trabajo !! 💪🏻
Un saludo desde medellin - colombia 👍🏻
Hola Robinson! Muchas gracias 🙏🏼 Que alegría de recibir un mensaje desde Colombia 🎉 Saludos desde Suiza 🇨🇭
Just need $500 worth of epoxy!
Oh yeah... easily
@@Woodensoul I was just saying! I make basic garbage flags I'm afraid to sell because I think they are not good enough when every dude at Lowe's or Home Depot with a buggy full of wood, stain and dreams can make blindfolded! So hey $500 in epoxy makes no difference in my world! Outside of $15 multiplied by 8 which is the number of flags I'm afraid to post, is outside my financial willingness to commit!
Yeah man, budgets vary heavily depending on the objects and the people's buying power. And yes, epoxy resin is very often more expensive than the wood itself... it is what it is. You should not be afraid to sell your flags. I was also afraid at first to sell my tables, because I felt I am not a professional, but once I started selling them, I did realize that I can compete. Just give it a try?
Interesting video/project but distracted by the irritating audio. A dialog would have been enhancing.
Hi Brian. Thank you for your feedback. Yeah, the music is a topic of discussion on my channel. In my first videos, when I started making videos, I did comment, but I realized after a while, that I didn't enjoy that. So I started putting the comments in the captions/subtitles instead. I understand it's preferential, and some people prefer the comments. I decided against it, because I woodworking is my hobby, so is my channel, and I figured I will make it in a way I enjoy it. It wasn't worth spending my time doing something I really disliked. Sorry that you were annoyed by the music...
Kill the music next time please.
Thank you for your suggestion, but no, I won‘t do that. But you can mute it easily if it bugs you… 😜
@@Woodensoul - I should have prefaced my remark with how beautiful the table turned out.
Ahw, thanks, I do like that preface very much 🤩 Glad you liked it 😁
Interesting project, but the real nightmare is that awful music.
Thanks - just mute the video and play whatever music is of your gusto