@@pewsterbaby I've always thought that they should charge everyone an extra rescue fee before they attempt that climb...if they make it back okay, they get most of that fee returned, if not, well then it should go to all the sherpa's and their families for all the hard work they do up there. Too many knuckleheads trying without being fully prepared...
@@gigi9301 bloody great idea. off topic....but....ive often wondered who foots the bill when rescue choppers, police, ses, ambos, fire brigade etc work heroically & tirelessly (often risking their OWN lives) to save daredevils or instagrammers who ignore signs, jump fences and stretch out on dangerous rocky outcrops or cliffs just to get that amazing photo or just to experience the thrill of it? makes me wanna take away their passport, drivers license & social media account access for a couple years as punishment, to encourage them not to do such stupid shit again.
Did you catch that little suppressed smile as he delivered that one? I wonder how many do-overs Dr Grande has to do when he records these vids. Just once I'd like to see him LOL. 😊
This happens more often than you would think on cruise ships. Not only are they floating Petri dishes, but they also seem to be a pretty good place to get away with murder.
@@elaineproffitt1032 I Looove cruising and will be going on as many cruises as I can afford. The Virus is declining and on cruises, just like everywhere else, you have to be aware of your surroundings and exercise caution, all while having FUN ... which I have everytime I cruise. BON VOYAGE.
@@bebe553 I find their standards below mine in most areas. The underpaid foreign staff, the cleanliness , the all you can drink passes, the predatory men co - cruisers, the drink spiking, the lack of resolution by the companies of the well known issues,
The investigator interviewed only 6 crew members and no passengers!? That’s very suspicious. I think there are so many potential dangers in a cruise, this investigation was definitely poorly conducted. Sadly, for the investigators that is just one more case but for the victim’s family that’s everything, it’s a daughter they will never get to see again. I can’t even imagine the pain her family must have endured. Really tragic. I am glad you made a video on this story Dr. Grande, thank you.❤️
@@ladymopar2024 A cruise ship has the same amount of responsibility for your safety on a cruise ship, as the government does on dry land. That is, very little. IMO, of course. They could both guarantee your safety, but that would be so restrictive and tyrannical that no one would want it. Everyone is ultimately responsible for them self, so be very careful who you associate with.
@@stevenkelby2169 I totally agree with you, I wish more people would think this way. Sadly though, the idea of personal responsibility scares a lot of people. They want someone to take care of them, or at least give them the feeling that they’re being taken care of even if they’re not.
I work in the industry and it’s scary what goes on and that’s before CV. Remember foreign flag means you come under the laws of that country for the most part.
my mom used to work on two massive cruise ships and traveled the world couple of times. the stories from 'behind the scenes' are shocking, even for tourist industry veterans.
alright, some details I'm comfortable sharing: I'm from Europe, this is about 12 years ago and I was a teenager. my mom started going abroad for work, mainly in the tourism industry. after few months of Ireland, mom was hired at the biggest cruise ship in the world (back then). she was responsible for high class customers who would go on the extended world tour. my mom provided butler / assistance service for a handful guests per round. the guests she was in contact with spent more than 250,000 Euro for their stay, off board activities not included. she encountered famous people couple of times but never worked directly with them. the clientele was mostly families with small children and retired couples. edit: will continue after my coffee!
No way would I take a cruise, especially after hearing some of the "behind-the-scenes" stories from crew members. They're not as safe and sanitary as one would like to believe.
Its really easy to kill someone on a Cruise because in some waters between country barriers there is no police responsible for an investigation. Its essentialy a lawless area. Then victims who go over board are not likely to be found due to exposure to the elements. Also their is always the wave or suicide excuse. Since you basically just have to push someone of a ledge there are almost no traces left. Not to mention cruises are dirty and you can be stuck with annoying people.
I remember this case, this one and ALL cruise ship disappearances never made sense. I used to work for a cruise company shoreside and let me tell you there’s almost always someone passing away onboard usually elderly people. There are more reasons than tax breaks for registering in the Bahamas and none of them are good, awesome video doc love ya.
I thought the only reason for going on a cruise ship was to force food on one end and pass it trough the other. What is really so attractive about it to go on with it? Can't people just eat at home, in a restaurant, or go on a picnic? I understand the industry creates job but can't make sense out of going on a trip like this.
To Troy and Sherry, the rules set onboard cruise ships would be governed by the home port, so they are not as strict as they would be in say, USA or Britain. The minimum wages, similar thing. Most people who work on cruise ships work long hours (much longer than maximum hours set by places like the USA) for low pay, insurance requirements are less strict etc. All this exploits those workers to lower the fares. Then again, most of these workers would have basically no income at all if they didn't work on these ships because they are often from poor countries where finding work is difficult and likely hazardous. So they are victims, but voluntary ones because the alternatives for them are worse. To MRooz, it's much more enjoyable being on a cruise ship. The laziness, the food is top notch gourmet and prepared for you, and no clean-up. You usually don't pay extra for any food, it's included in the fare. With certain passes, basically unlimited alcohol (though it may cost more for the pass than you would spend at home unless you drink a lot.) You spend your days lying in the sun looking at the sea or a coastline, can do activities while onboard with others that you would have a difficult time doing at home (or motivating to do), then you reach a destination and can visit. All for what is usually not much more than jet fare to another country. For many, it's a great vacation. Of course, it helps if you come home too.
@@kenmore01 Thanks for expanding your explanation! I've heard a lot of people also say that it's nice to see more than one place, but only have to pack/unpack one time (unlike land tours). I also feel sorry for all the dump sites into the water; I have heard that the ships dump huge amounts of waste into the ocean, including raw sewage, non-recyclable trash, who knows what else, and wonder how well that is monitored if it's the open ocean and who regulates that?
“Did the wave sneak on board and kidnap her?” Savage. I absolutely love it. All jokes asides, I genuinely pray her family somehow is able to find peace.
Kind of bothers me when he does this..... disrespectful to missing person and family ...would not want humorous remarks in a video about someone I knew. But I do see what you mean here.
@Scruffy Topaz That’s true.😆 In my opinion, these ships are really gross. I went once and it was misery all around- the smell of alcohol in the air, the crowd, the noise, etc...That was my first and last time.
My aunty was on cruise ship when Covid kicked off, for the last month and a half of her trip she had to stay on board while it came home. We felt so sorry for her until she got home and started wishing she'd stayed on the ship with the all inclusive meals and activities haha
Cruise industry is the worst when it comes to complying with basic standards of corporate responsibility, be that social or environmental. Exploitative, dirty, irresponsible...
Then again they accepted a settlement from Disney to stop talking about it which is... well. Lets just say I would not let myself get silenced by money.
@@m00nrac00n Unless Disney showed them information that isn't public and that neither they nor Disney wanted to become public. Something that satisfied them that Disney wasn't at fault maybe...
@@m00nrac00n I might. if disney also showed me proof not made public that my daughter had indeed ended up overboard by her own doing? (jumped-depressed when dumped by her 2 lovers?) or (fell thru misadventure, eg...after an alcohol fuelled dare to balance on the rail?) or by some other behaviour of hers i would not like to end up public knowledge? (just for the sake of my childs memory and privacy) ...like ...possibly an acute drug problem?
I have been watching a program series about deaths on Cruise ships. Absolutely amazing. The industry does everything possible NOT to file reports and shut down investigations.
@@susanmann5286 I think you should research that a bit more. Cruise Ship Killers is a HIGHLY dramatized and in some cases outright made up stories of cruise ship deaths. Many of the cases they portray are 'based on' a true story and when you read into the actual story, they take gigantic liberties and include things that outright didn't happen for dramatic effect. If you are taking that program as fact, you may need to take a step back. There have been episodes where a thorough investigation was conducted and the show portrays it as if it wasn't by leaving out key details. My wife and I are frequent cruisers - on our 14th this summer - and know people in the industry and we laugh about that show because of how unrealistic and overdramatized it is. We actually stopped watching it after half a season because it was borderline absurd. Way too much conjecture and speculation and little focus on fact.
I have heard a lot about the Bahamian police and I think your analysis is spot on. That poor performance was deliberate for many reasons; chiefly the ones you gave. A complete and transparent investigation would be anathema to Disney. Disney is about surface appearance and has always been so.
Greetings from Shanghai, Dr. Grande and other good people! Drinking coffee and smoking a cigarette while watching sunrise on my balcony AND listening to this video What a beginning of Sunday 🎇
Whoaa....from New Jersey right outside NYC and I'm also sitting on my porch on Sunday morning with coffee and a cigarette watching this, 17 hours after you posted this? That's interesting. Honestly not sure how the last part works but I think it's cool how connected we are as humans. Hope you enjoyed yours!
This comment (although maybe true) is a downer! All these international listeners bonding over Sunday and Dr. Grande's wonderful (although often sad) videos! We are all human beings (although a few aliens - maybe?) We need each other!
I watch, even if I think it may not interest me. It's always interesting. I've also gone way back, and watched Dr. Grande's older videos on different behavioral health issues. He's brilliant 😊
I'm curious to know too. I've always been too broke to take one, I wanted to, so reading this all over the comments surprises me. What was so bad about it?
I don't blame you. I've been on three and I'm done with cruises. I think it's more fun just to go to one place and stay there until it's time to go home.
@@flash_flood_area No, they didn't, all of them have been royally fucked the entire period of covid. Turns out that keeping neighbourhood-sized fun in the sun pollution vessels operational costs a lot of money
On a different video on this, I watched maybe 6 months ago on CZcams, they interviewed crew members, and they said there are cameras literally everywhere on that ship. There were cameras in the front of the ship, and they know exactly what happened, but they won’t release the video. Or they destroyed it. I’m going to assume though, that they showed the parents the video, and that’s what led them to choosing a settlement deal with Disney.
They're extremely unhealthy for the environment as well. They give off the same carbon footprint as thousands upon thousands of cars. The pollution they give off is _so_ bad that if you live in the city they port in scientists are literally able to determine that you'll get sick/sicker due to constantly breathing in their pollution. They are legally required to hook up to shore power and can't use the full capabilities of their engines until they're a certain distance away from shore. That's just a couple things. There's far more. I've forgotten a lot but there's a host of reasons to not support the business of cruise ships
This is a really sad one. Of course I feel connected to it because I’m writing from near where she lived in Chester and it was naturally a huge deal here but any time a young person goes missing, especially with no explanation, it throws the world off its axis, nothing makes sense. My heart really goes out to her parents, no settlement from Disney could ever make up for the loss of a child. I wish she was out there somewhere but tragically, it’s just not likely. I was really interested in your analysis of causes of deaths or disappearances on cruises, Dr Grande, that was a wonderfully logical thing to do in a case where all manner of wild theories have been explored in the understandable void of answers. Tragically young people are particularly vulnerable to misadventure; they generally don’t yet know they are mortal and worse still, haven’t always learned to value themselves enough to treat themselves with the care they were taught to give others. As a society we need to invest more in our children, and this is no disrespect to Rebecca’s parents or anyone else’s,I’m talking to myself, to all of us; a foundation of confidence, self respect and compassion for the self, as well as others, could go a long way towards protecting young people. Imho, we spend way too much time teaching kids about how to pass exams and spend nowhere near enough time helping them, and ourselves with them, to be happy, have good relationships and to eventually become good parents, surely that’s more important than anything else?
I wish you well for your life💞💖💕💗. Im in Australia🇦🇺🇦🇺. You are so right. Daily i read articles on missing people😢😢. I often think "where are they...how come noone saw them why did noone help" take care
I agree completely...especially valuing themselves. I heard she went straight from a party, had men's clothes on, and made a phone call (or got one from her boyfriend) that was very negative. The person who asked her if she was OK said she was either crying or visibly upset. The cruise ship said she jumped overboard via camera footage. She was known to have depression and used to call her parents everyday, which would have been odd for a 20-plus yo. I think that or she did something dangerous like sit on that wall and fell overboard. Such a sad ending to a young life but I don't think it was foul play at all. Poor young lady. God bless.
This case and the disappearance of Amy Lyn Bradley has me weary from ever taking a cruise. Just seems like a playground for all kinds of sketchy people.
I think the 10% murder statistic may be skewed by the lack of adequate investigation of incidents - possible murder cases are not rigorously pursued so many may go uncounted. FYI, I love your sense of humor. Your dry wit makes your podcasts so fun to watch despite the gravity of many of the subjects.
It’s an unnecessary cover up. Disney fanatics would still buy from Disney even if the story came out. They’re a horrible company for letting this happen over a 1% loss in business.
If you look at a picture of the crew pool area, there are ladders that go up pretty high and it might be possible to climb up to the front of the ship and fall or jump off into the ocean.
As long as Disney, and police records are withheld from the family, it's just going to foster more distrust and fear with potential new customers. It makes you wonder how good of an investigation either one of them did. Disney, typically, only cares about their bottom line. I doubt they will hand anything to the parents. Such a sad thing to have happened to this girl. It's been made unbearable for her parents, who deserve to know what happened to their child. Thanks for covering this, Dr.Grande. Hope you have a great weekend. I'm waiting for the Belmont race, later!❤ 🐎🐎🐎🐎
Altho money will never replace their daughter, I'm sure the parents did indeed get a big payout from Disney to keep quiet for really something Disney wasn't responsible for (her either jumping or doing something dangerous bc of depression). She was caught on camera coming from a party wearing men's clothes and talking to her boyfriend on the phone with upsetting news...upsetting enough that someone would ask her If she was OK. And she had a history of depression. I just don't see any foul play here. My sympathies to her parents. God bless.
I hope you will eventually cover Seung-Hui Cho & the 2007 Virginia Tech mass shooting 🥺 thank you for covering the Rebecca Coriam case though! This one has always been perplexing
I agree! This case and the Amy Bradley cruise ship disappearance. Both are so sad. But I can bet that Disney knows what happened they have cameras in their cameras. I don’t think they would withhold video if there was any foul play, Iam thinking accident or suicide. I feel so bad for her family.
I had a strange theory pop into my head. Someone could have totally stuffed her into a suitcase and they would have just blended right in on camera and to others with luggage. They could have done something with her body once they got somewhere that was more secluded and away from the ship after departing.
This filled in some key information, thank you! I listened to 2 podcasts about this story, and neither mentioned the settlement. That makes sense for why this case was dropped, that Disney probably does know more, and why it hasn't been shared to the public.
Indeed. Ironically, Agatha Christie had her own unsolved mystery during her lifetime in which she disappeared; I don’t think anyone knows what she did during the time she was missing to this day. I’d love to see Dr. Grande cover Agatha Christie, now that you mention it! Very interesting person.
I've known a few people who have worked on cruises - their stories are nasty. I'll never go a cruise, not only because of the unsanitary conditions (though that's a big part of it) but mainly because of the crews. I don't want to be near that.
Just watched the Betty Broderick story on Netflix. Thought of you. Maybe do a video on her? She was targeted and gaslit by her husband. They pushed her to and past her limit.
I have been on cruises and there is no way anyone can fall overboard accidentally, under normal circumstances on a ship even if you are drunk. The sides are too high unless you climb up and/or have been thrown over.
One of many reasons I’m not interested in going on a cruise. There’s just so little accountability that if you are a victim of a serious crime, there’s not much motivation to look hard into it.
Eileen UK. I have watched the series of cruise ship killers and some of case are not investigated properly they really do not want the bad publicity I feel so sorry for the families that don’t get answers. Dr. Grande you’re analysis is absolutely spot on as usual there is no one that could do it better. Thanks 🙏 again for another great 👍 video look forward to many more.
The probability of murder is still greater than the probability of a "rogue wave." The cruise line should have said they thought she fell overboard doing something unwise, and kept the rogue wave theory to themselves. IMO. Also, hello to the Grande plants
Rouge wave us likely so standard answer to reduce liabilities must heard mes the 5 maybe 10 times bit sketches in a way still high seas situation like 100 years ago
Very interesting this one & so so sad she was from the next city were i live in UK, apparently looks like there is 300 people gone missing off cruise ships since 2010???? & if I've read it right that excludes the usual heart attacks & dying from natural causes....this is actual missing persons!???? Seems quite odd & a very untapped subject to explore maybe Dr Grande?? Would be great if you could cover some more mysteries from the seas...Enjoy your weekend Captain Grande of analysis ! 😎 xxx
Another interesting case and analysis. I had not heard about this case. So much better hearing the story from you than watching a one or two hour presentation on television !!! Thanks !!! 🌺🌺🌺
The cruise lines do not value their employees if it’s causes the cruise line money or a scandal. I very much doubt SHE jumped overboard, thrown yes but jumped no.
Dr Grande thanks for informing the public of rogue ninja waves. That's good information to know.😉What were the police thinking?? Poor girl. Thank you for your analysis doc!💚💚
Dr Grande, I have a diff anon account to support a side project and I was SO DELIGHTED to see one of your videos amidst the rando algorithmic suggestions there. You’ve hit it big ❤️
A friend who grew up in the Bahamas once told me if you want the police to show up: $50. If you want them to catch somebody: $500. If you want them to catch the right person: $10,000.
I think the love triangle is the most unusual detail here. If i had to guess... I'd say she probably had an argument with her girlfriend and/or boyfriend, and perhaps was left feeling heartbroken. Such an argument could be intense enough to lead to ripped pieces of clothing, but also of a personal nature which fits with her "Yeah, fine" reply to a stranger. I'd guess her death was an impulsive act of suicide.
I'm really fond of the idea of this channel because historically it's been so sober. His sarcasm is a negative for me. It won't take much to take it too far and make it a derivative of Judge Judy.
Dr. Grande, thank you for reteaching the importance of telling the truth -- something a preschooler understands. I think the leaders of all these organizations should sit cross-legged on the carpet while you recite the final two minutes of this video!
After seeing cruise ships stranded in the middle of the ocean (while running out of supplies) and the rules of international waters and how they work, you couldn't get me on a cruise ship for anything! Can you imagine, somehow falling off your ship, only to see it float farther and farther away! I'd bet, that's prolly one of the loneliest experiences a person could have! Seems like there's just a lot of bad things that can happen, that you personally, have no control over! Doctor! You're looking fit and healthy! Looks like life is treating you well! Thank you for your commitment to your videos, wouldn't it be fun to somehow see all the people that you've helped or touched? If they were to line up, I'd bet there would be miles and miles of people that could quite possibly, stretch clear across a state! It must be very satisfying to actually help people like you do. Thank you Sir! You're much appreciated! 🧡💙🧡
Just had to say I think the sarcasm was justified and honest. Total empathy for the family while incorporating a win/win for all parties. well said. IMHO The hard thing to say "We don't know" if that were true is at least honest regardless of the answers. One of my most liked of your analysis TY
unfortunately, since her partners settled and agreed to never speak of it again, i believe they were given evidence that it was truly an accident. i hope they found their answers. great video!
Once again, masterfully navigating the boundary between humour and the utmost respect for the victim & her friends and family. It's a shame that law enforcement are so often the butt of the joke, I guess when they do a good job there is less to talk about and the cases are perhaps less compelling as they are more often solved. Great video, love your work.
Hey @Dr Todd Grande-Can you PLEASE consider doing an analysis and review of "Big Edie" and "Little Edie'' Bouvier-aunt and cousin of Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onasis and the "Grey Gardens" infamy? Their stories and genuinely so interesting, fascinating and yet heartbreaking sad all at the same time. Thanks so much Dr Todd!!
Love this channel & excellent reviews of perplexing & unsolved cases...I have to ask Dr Grande: Please, please, please do a case review/analysis of the Jacob Gray dissapearance 🙏🏻🙂
This does seem like a repetitive pattern with cruise ship companies. Another disappearing person from a cruise ship that sounds like was swept away as quietly as possible with little care for finding the person.
I'm guessing the cruise line found film footage of what actually happened, hence the settlement to the family. If it was murder, I doubt the family would have agreed to an NDA. I'm guessing suicide, which tends to explain the family's willingness to hush it up, because there is footage showing she was noticeably upset around 5 am that morning.
Dr. Grande, your statement about the rogue wave shows how salty you are today. Glad to here it! You bring me a lot of information about true crime and psychology. I’m a masters degree student majoring in forensic psychology. These videos are quite helpful.
There is a lot of murder and crimes that go on in International waters on cruise ships. My parents were on the Royal Caribbean Symphony of the seas when that Australian businessman was thrown overboard he was thrown overboard there were witnesses of a fight he was murdered but you don't hear about it do you and I still understood how their itinerary and the Facebook messages between my parents and I talking about What happened, guy was murdered on their cruise
This is why I will never step foot on a cruise ship. To me, a cruise ship is nothing more than a floating housing project. Anything and everything can happen. Whatever did happen to her, I hope she didn’t suffer.
If she were distressed and inebriated, she may have suffered a sudden and catastrophic loss of judgement. And she may have let herself fall or slip of a railing into the ocean. The sea is a powerful force and anyone who has been on a ship at sea knows that. Sadly the idea that you may easily survive the fall and even enjoy the feel of the warm water encompass your body, may be alluring. However, once off the ship, the instant realization that nobody is there to see or rescue you, would be sheer horror. By then, it’s all too late. There is no turning back and no way to call for help.
"Returning is a key part of the experience"
I know, love his tongue in cheek delivery
same thing with climbing mount everest.
@@pewsterbaby I've always thought that they should charge everyone an extra rescue fee before they attempt that climb...if they make it back okay, they get most of that fee returned, if not, well then it should go to all the sherpa's and their families for all the hard work they do up there. Too many knuckleheads trying without being fully prepared...
Very, very much so - even if you have nowhere to return to!
@@gigi9301 bloody great idea. off topic....but....ive often wondered who foots the bill when rescue choppers, police, ses, ambos, fire brigade etc work heroically & tirelessly (often risking their OWN lives) to save daredevils or instagrammers who ignore signs, jump fences and stretch out on dangerous rocky outcrops or cliffs just to get that amazing photo or just to experience the thrill of it?
makes me wanna take away their passport, drivers license & social media account access for a couple years as punishment, to encourage them not to do such stupid shit again.
"one of the key things about taking a cruise is returning from that cruise." You are a riot, Dr. Grande!
Did you catch that little suppressed smile as he delivered that one? I wonder how many do-overs Dr Grande has to do when he records these vids. Just once I'd like to see him LOL. 😊
Yeah did you notice he kinda snorted a little laugh when he said that. 🤣
This happens more often than you would think on cruise ships. Not only are they floating Petri dishes, but they also seem to be a pretty good place to get away with murder.
I will NEVER go on a cruise. There are sharks in the water and on the ship!
I noticed recently there's a subgenre of true crime unsolved missing persons dedicated to those on cruise ships. 🥺
@@elaineproffitt1032
I Looove cruising and will be going on as many cruises as I can afford.
The Virus is declining and on cruises, just like everywhere else, you have to be aware of your surroundings and exercise caution, all while having FUN ... which I have everytime I cruise.
BON VOYAGE.
@@bebe553 I find their standards below mine in most areas. The underpaid foreign staff, the cleanliness , the all you can drink passes, the predatory men co - cruisers, the drink spiking, the lack of resolution by the companies of the well known issues,
Hmmm! Thanks for the tip; I'll keep that one in my back pocket for future reference if needed....
The investigator interviewed only 6 crew members and no passengers!? That’s very suspicious.
I think there are so many potential dangers in a cruise, this investigation was definitely poorly conducted.
Sadly, for the investigators that is just one more case but for the victim’s family that’s everything, it’s a daughter they will never get to see again. I can’t even imagine the pain her family must have endured. Really tragic.
I am glad you made a video on this story Dr. Grande, thank you.❤️
Lot of cruise ships will not take responsibility and do a half ass job but they have to have that money
@@ladymopar2024 A cruise ship has the same amount of responsibility for your safety on a cruise ship, as the government does on dry land.
That is, very little.
IMO, of course.
They could both guarantee your safety, but that would be so restrictive and tyrannical that no one would want it.
Everyone is ultimately responsible for them self, so be very careful who you associate with.
@@stevenkelby2169 well I agree with your analysis. weigh the the risks and the benefits and in the end it is up to you and your own responsibility
@@stevenkelby2169 I totally agree with you, I wish more people would think this way. Sadly though, the idea of personal responsibility scares a lot of people. They want someone to take care of them, or at least give them the feeling that they’re being taken care of even if they’re not.
Mho she was sold. End of story.
“Returning from a trip is part of the experience” 💯😊😍
Well that to Robinson Crusoe.
Is your name Gordon , Ivor ?
Going on one would be a start at prez😅
I work in the industry and it’s scary what goes on and that’s before CV. Remember foreign flag means you come under the laws of that country for the most part.
Care to share some stories?
my mom used to work on two massive cruise ships and traveled the world couple of times. the stories from 'behind the scenes' are shocking, even for tourist industry veterans.
@@solala1312 then share some
alright, some details I'm comfortable sharing:
I'm from Europe, this is about 12 years ago and I was a teenager. my mom started going abroad for work, mainly in the tourism industry.
after few months of Ireland, mom was hired at the biggest cruise ship in the world (back then). she was responsible for high class customers who would go on the extended world tour. my mom provided butler / assistance service for a handful guests per round. the guests she was in contact with spent more than 250,000 Euro for their stay, off board activities not included. she encountered famous people couple of times but never worked directly with them. the clientele was mostly families with small children and retired couples.
edit: will continue after my coffee!
@@solala1312 bloody long coffeeee!!!!
No way would I take a cruise, especially after hearing some of the "behind-the-scenes" stories from crew members. They're not as safe and sanitary as one would like to believe.
Exactly. So many cases of women disappearing. The cruise lines cover it up to protect their “reputation”
Its really easy to kill someone on a Cruise because in some waters between country barriers there is no police responsible for an investigation. Its essentialy a lawless area. Then victims who go over board are not likely to be found due to exposure to the elements. Also their is always the wave or suicide excuse. Since you basically just have to push someone of a ledge there are almost no traces left. Not to mention cruises are dirty and you can be stuck with annoying people.
I don't blame you for not wanting to go on a cruise. I've been on a few of them and they're not all what they're cracked up to be.
@@m00nrac00n they certainly need ten times the amount of surveillance cameras most currently have.
The boat's flagging authority would be responsible for law and order, in international waters.
I remember this case, this one and ALL cruise ship disappearances never made sense. I used to work for a cruise company shoreside and let me tell you there’s almost always someone passing away onboard usually elderly people. There are more reasons than tax breaks for registering in the Bahamas and none of them are good, awesome video doc love ya.
What are some of the other questionably ethical reasons people register in the Bahamas? Just curious. Got any crazy stories you've heard?
Abolish flags of convenience.
I thought the only reason for going on a cruise ship was to force food on one end and pass it trough the other. What is really so attractive about it to go on with it? Can't people just eat at home, in a restaurant, or go on a picnic? I understand the industry creates job but can't make sense out of going on a trip like this.
To Troy and Sherry, the rules set onboard cruise ships would be governed by the home port, so they are not as strict as they would be in say, USA or Britain. The minimum wages, similar thing. Most people who work on cruise ships work long hours (much longer than maximum hours set by places like the USA) for low pay, insurance requirements are less strict etc. All this exploits those workers to lower the fares. Then again, most of these workers would have basically no income at all if they didn't work on these ships because they are often from poor countries where finding work is difficult and likely hazardous. So they are victims, but voluntary ones because the alternatives for them are worse.
To MRooz, it's much more enjoyable being on a cruise ship. The laziness, the food is top notch gourmet and prepared for you, and no clean-up. You usually don't pay extra for any food, it's included in the fare. With certain passes, basically unlimited alcohol (though it may cost more for the pass than you would spend at home unless you drink a lot.) You spend your days lying in the sun looking at the sea or a coastline, can do activities while onboard with others that you would have a difficult time doing at home (or motivating to do), then you reach a destination and can visit. All for what is usually not much more than jet fare to another country. For many, it's a great vacation. Of course, it helps if you come home too.
@@kenmore01 Thanks for expanding your explanation! I've heard a lot of people also say that it's nice to see more than one place, but only have to pack/unpack one time (unlike land tours). I also feel sorry for all the dump sites into the water; I have heard that the ships dump huge amounts of waste into the ocean, including raw sewage, non-recyclable trash, who knows what else, and wonder how well that is monitored if it's the open ocean and who regulates that?
“Did the wave sneak on board and kidnap her?” Savage. I absolutely love it. All jokes asides, I genuinely pray her family somehow is able to find peace.
This is another sad story. I don’t know how you manage to slip the dry humour in Dr. Grande; but it helps.
Kind of bothers me when he does this..... disrespectful to missing person and family ...would not want humorous remarks in a video about someone I knew. But I do see what you mean here.
Recent history won't allow me to think of cruise ships as anything but floating petri dishes.
@Scruffy Topaz That’s true.😆
In my opinion, these ships are really gross. I went once and it was misery all around- the smell of alcohol in the air, the crowd, the noise, etc...That was my first and last time.
I always thought that, even before covid. Add in the inability to escape from annoying co-cruisers, & you couldn't pay me to take a cruise.
@@digigalbytes2445 Same. Doesnt seem fun at all.
I get terribly sea sick so I’m with y’all
My aunty was on cruise ship when Covid kicked off, for the last month and a half of her trip she had to stay on board while it came home. We felt so sorry for her until she got home and started wishing she'd stayed on the ship with the all inclusive meals and activities haha
Cruise industry is the worst when it comes to complying with basic standards of corporate responsibility, be that social or environmental. Exploitative, dirty, irresponsible...
I feel so sorry for the parents.
Then again they accepted a settlement from Disney to stop talking about it which is... well. Lets just say I would not let myself get silenced by money.
@@m00nrac00n Unless Disney showed them information that isn't public and that neither they nor Disney wanted to become public. Something that satisfied them that Disney wasn't at fault maybe...
@@m00nrac00n then you might live the rest of your life never knowing what happened to your daughter
@@Gamble661 yeah no of Disney wasn't a fault they wouldn't have gave them a settlement and juicy details
@@m00nrac00n I might. if disney also showed me proof not made public that my daughter had indeed ended up overboard by her own doing? (jumped-depressed when dumped by her 2 lovers?) or (fell thru misadventure, eg...after an alcohol fuelled dare to balance on the rail?) or by some other behaviour of hers i would not like to end up public knowledge? (just for the sake of my childs memory and privacy) ...like ...possibly an acute drug problem?
I have been watching a program series about deaths on Cruise ships. Absolutely amazing. The industry does everything possible NOT to file reports and shut down investigations.
What’s the program’s name?
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"Cruise Ship Killers." It is on the "True Crime Network", but you might be able to find it some place else, too.
@@susanmann5286 I think you should research that a bit more. Cruise Ship Killers is a HIGHLY dramatized and in some cases outright made up stories of cruise ship deaths. Many of the cases they portray are 'based on' a true story and when you read into the actual story, they take gigantic liberties and include things that outright didn't happen for dramatic effect.
If you are taking that program as fact, you may need to take a step back. There have been episodes where a thorough investigation was conducted and the show portrays it as if it wasn't by leaving out key details.
My wife and I are frequent cruisers - on our 14th this summer - and know people in the industry and we laugh about that show because of how unrealistic and overdramatized it is. We actually stopped watching it after half a season because it was borderline absurd. Way too much conjecture and speculation and little focus on fact.
If she was the only person swept overboard, then it doesn't really qualify as a crimewave.
Good one.😁
Hahahahaha........I like it.
It's just an isolated law breaker.
@@eadweard. That's better than mine.
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"Did she owe the wave money..." dude you crack me up
Rolling. Dr. Grande master of wry, witty humor.
An off-shore account?
I know, right!!??? I live his dry sense of humor and delivery!
I went on a cruise to the Bahamas once in 2016. It was fun but it does strike me as a likely place for foul play to occur.
I have heard a lot about the Bahamian police and I think your analysis is spot on. That poor performance was deliberate for many reasons; chiefly the ones you gave. A complete and transparent investigation would be anathema to Disney. Disney is about surface appearance and has always been so.
Greetings from Shanghai, Dr. Grande and other good people!
Drinking coffee and smoking a cigarette while watching sunrise on my balcony AND listening to this video
What a beginning of Sunday 🎇
Hello from a Toledo balcony where there is a crisp night breeze 🌃
Tom S.,
Shanghai! Sounds glamorous and exotic. I can hardly imagine...
Whoaa....from New Jersey right outside NYC and I'm also sitting on my porch on Sunday morning with coffee and a cigarette watching this, 17 hours after you posted this? That's interesting. Honestly not sure how the last part works but I think it's cool how connected we are as humans. Hope you enjoyed yours!
Smoking on your cabin’s balcony is a fire hazard. A fire on board a ship is the greatest possible danger.
This comment (although maybe true) is a downer! All these international listeners bonding over Sunday and Dr. Grande's wonderful (although often sad) videos! We are all human beings (although a few aliens - maybe?) We need each other!
I see Dr. Grande and I automatically press like.
Yes, me too
Yep me too 😁
I watch, even if I think it may not interest me. It's always interesting. I've also gone way back, and watched Dr. Grande's older videos on different behavioral health issues. He's brilliant 😊
I think they absolutely know what happened to her. There are cameras all over the place except for the rooms.
I was on one cruise, it was hell, and I’ll never do another.
But, looking on the bright side, I returned!
In what way(s) was it hell?
I'm curious to know too. I've always been too broke to take one, I wanted to, so reading this all over the comments surprises me. What was so bad about it?
I don't blame you. I've been on three and I'm done with cruises. I think it's more fun just to go to one place and stay there until it's time to go home.
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody; I'm only speculating what could be happening on a cruise ship like this.
Stop this.
@@eadweard. No. I love this!
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Dr. Grande thanks for doing a Saturday analysis. Its such a treat
The man's a maniac, he gets us addicted and keeps feeding us. Love this guy.
@@polarbearsrus6980 great comment
Well timed Dr Grande, just finished washing up, so time to put my feet and enjoy 12mins of your speculation, perfect Saturday night in.
Me too! ❤️✌️
The cruise industry “originates from the Bahama’s to avoid taxes”. Well isn’t that convenient.
Didn't that industry get a big bail out at the start of covid?
And minimum wage laws.
And avoid scrutiny, perhaps?
Hardly any of the cruise ships are flagged in the United States
@@flash_flood_area No, they didn't, all of them have been royally fucked the entire period of covid. Turns out that keeping neighbourhood-sized fun in the sun pollution vessels operational costs a lot of money
On a different video on this, I watched maybe 6 months ago on CZcams, they interviewed crew members, and they said there are cameras literally everywhere on that ship. There were cameras in the front of the ship, and they know exactly what happened, but they won’t release the video. Or they destroyed it.
I’m going to assume though, that they showed the parents the video, and that’s what led them to choosing a settlement deal with Disney.
That is what I heard.
Falling overboard off a big ship that keeps on sailing away leaving you alone in a huge ocean is the worst nightmare!
I will never take a cruise, it has never seemed safe to me.
There are essentially no laws that cover International cruises and hence no LE agency has jurisdiction!
the international cruise victims website is so sad, so many people have gone missing on cruises and it always seems shady
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I'd go on a cruise in a heart beat!
These incidents are very rare.
They sound like fun stuff!
They're extremely unhealthy for the environment as well. They give off the same carbon footprint as thousands upon thousands of cars. The pollution they give off is _so_ bad that if you live in the city they port in scientists are literally able to determine that you'll get sick/sicker due to constantly breathing in their pollution. They are legally required to hook up to shore power and can't use the full capabilities of their engines until they're a certain distance away from shore.
That's just a couple things. There's far more. I've forgotten a lot but there's a host of reasons to not support the business of cruise ships
I agree no thank you
This is a really sad one. Of course I feel connected to it because I’m writing from near where she lived in Chester and it was naturally a huge deal here but any time a young person goes missing, especially with no explanation, it throws the world off its axis, nothing makes sense. My heart really goes out to her parents, no settlement from Disney could ever make up for the loss of a child. I wish she was out there somewhere but tragically, it’s just not likely. I was really interested in your analysis of causes of deaths or disappearances on cruises, Dr Grande, that was a wonderfully logical thing to do in a case where all manner of wild theories have been explored in the understandable void of answers. Tragically young people are particularly vulnerable to misadventure; they generally don’t yet know they are mortal and worse still, haven’t always learned to value themselves enough to treat themselves with the care they were taught to give others. As a society we need to invest more in our children, and this is no disrespect to Rebecca’s parents or anyone else’s,I’m talking to myself, to all of us; a foundation of confidence, self respect and compassion for the self, as well as others, could go a long way towards protecting young people. Imho, we spend way too much time teaching kids about how to pass exams and spend nowhere near enough time helping them, and ourselves with them, to be happy, have good relationships and to eventually become good parents, surely that’s more important than anything else?
I wish you well for your life💞💖💕💗. Im in Australia🇦🇺🇦🇺. You are so right. Daily i read articles on missing people😢😢. I often think "where are they...how come noone saw them why did noone help" take care
So well said, I totally agree xx
I agree completely...especially valuing themselves. I heard she went straight from a party, had men's clothes on, and made a phone call (or got one from her boyfriend) that was very negative. The person who asked her if she was OK said she was either crying or visibly upset. The cruise ship said she jumped overboard via camera footage. She was known to have depression and used to call her parents everyday, which would have been odd for a 20-plus yo. I think that or she did something dangerous like sit on that wall and fell overboard. Such a sad ending to a young life but I don't think it was foul play at all. Poor young lady. God bless.
I wish the entire world would understand as much as you. You comment has given me hope for our future.
Well said!!🌞
I found this story extremely upsetting... Poor child. Poor child.
I also find the “Returning Safely” feature a must have when I travel with a group tour😜 Thank you for the video.
This case and the disappearance of Amy Lyn Bradley has me weary from ever taking a cruise. Just seems like a playground for all kinds of sketchy people.
Wary? (Don't hit me!)
yes 2 people out of MILLIONS that take a cruise each year :) omg
You’re in more danger just in day to day life. There are sketchy people everywhere.
Dr. Grande left out the most plausible scenario--- alien abduction.
I assume you were joking 😅
Yes, there should definitely be a probe into that theory.
Should remember that she is somebody's daughter.
It's shocking that there is a floating city out there without any law enforcement agencies on site. I would never.
I hope your Saturday is excellent, Doctor. So happy to see your post.
Doc would be an awesome ship captain!!!
I think the 10% murder statistic may be skewed by the lack of adequate investigation of incidents - possible murder cases are not rigorously pursued so many may go uncounted. FYI, I love your sense of humor. Your dry wit makes your podcasts so fun to watch despite the gravity of many of the subjects.
It’s an unnecessary cover up. Disney fanatics would still buy from Disney even if the story came out. They’re a horrible company for letting this happen over a 1% loss in business.
I love how consistent Dr. G uploads, always gives me something to look forward to listening to a new video while enjoying a good afternoon snack.
If you look at a picture of the crew pool area, there are ladders that go up pretty high and it might be possible to climb up to the front of the ship and fall or jump off into the ocean.
more than likely would have been seen by the people on the bridge
As long as Disney, and police records are withheld from the family, it's just going to foster more distrust and fear with potential new customers. It makes you wonder how good of an investigation either one of them did. Disney, typically, only cares about their bottom line. I doubt they will hand anything to the parents. Such a sad thing to have happened to this girl. It's been made unbearable for her parents, who deserve to know what happened to their child. Thanks for covering this, Dr.Grande. Hope you have a great weekend. I'm waiting for the Belmont race, later!❤
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Altho money will never replace their daughter, I'm sure the parents did indeed get a big payout from Disney to keep quiet for really something Disney wasn't responsible for (her either jumping or doing something dangerous bc of depression). She was caught on camera coming from a party wearing men's clothes and talking to her boyfriend on the phone with upsetting news...upsetting enough that someone would ask her If she was OK. And she had a history of depression. I just don't see any foul play here. My sympathies to her parents. God bless.
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@@dortesandal4303 My horse didn't win 😐 ☹
@@Cassxowary what???
Just because she was wearing men's pyjamas, doesn't mean she was raped! 🤦🏻♂️
I hope you will eventually cover Seung-Hui Cho & the 2007 Virginia Tech mass shooting 🥺 thank you for covering the Rebecca Coriam case though! This one has always been perplexing
I agree! This case and the Amy Bradley cruise ship disappearance. Both are so sad. But I can bet that Disney knows what happened they have cameras in their cameras. I don’t think they would withhold video if there was any foul play, Iam thinking accident or suicide. I feel so bad for her family.
I had a strange theory pop into my head. Someone could have totally stuffed her into a suitcase and they would have just blended right in on camera and to others with luggage. They could have done something with her body once they got somewhere that was more secluded and away from the ship after departing.
This filled in some key information, thank you! I listened to 2 podcasts about this story, and neither mentioned the settlement. That makes sense for why this case was dropped, that Disney probably does know more, and why it hasn't been shared to the public.
... and that’s why I wouldn’t get on a cruise wth certain members of my family 😅
This is straight out of Agatha Christie. It needs Hercule Poirot.
Indeed. Ironically, Agatha Christie had her own unsolved mystery during her lifetime in which she disappeared; I don’t think anyone knows what she did during the time she was missing to this day. I’d love to see Dr. Grande cover Agatha Christie, now that you mention it! Very interesting person.
Love Hercule. 👍
@@JediBunny That is a GREAT idea, I second this comment 😁👉
Doesn't matter what Agatha did that day. She was pissed off and rightfully so.
@@missfriscowin3606 yes! He solved the Death on the Nile
Dr. Grande, it would be great to analyze Francesco Schettino who abandoned the Cruise Ship Concordia Jan 13, 2012 after it sank. Thanks.
I've known a few people who have worked on cruises - their stories are nasty. I'll never go a cruise, not only because of the unsanitary conditions (though that's a big part of it) but mainly because of the crews. I don't want to be near that.
Like what?
What stories did they tell you? X
Just watched the Betty Broderick story on Netflix.
Thought of you.
Maybe do a video on her?
She was targeted and gaslit by her husband.
They pushed her to and past her limit.
Yes, but you don't shoot somebody! Come on!
See Dr Grande's video dated June 13 2020 on this person.
I have been on cruises and there is no way anyone can fall overboard accidentally, under normal circumstances on a ship even if you are drunk. The sides are too high unless you climb up and/or have been thrown over.
One of many reasons I’m not interested in going on a cruise. There’s just so little accountability that if you are a victim of a serious crime, there’s not much motivation to look hard into it.
I feel like a sardine just thinking about getting on a cruise.
I feel icky just thinking about Disney. 🧚♀️
Love boat
I hate Disney so this is no surprise.
I agree. I have never had the desire to take a cruise.
@@noongourfain Especially after the COVID outbreaks that occurred on a few of them.
I’m going to the beach in a couple of weeks, I sure hope I don’t run into one of those waves. 🤞🌊😉
One of the best kept secrets in the cruise industy is the amount of women who go missing on these ships.
This is crazy I literally watched a dateline doco on this case last night that was uploaded 9 years ago and today you upload this!!
Eileen UK. I have watched the series of cruise ship killers and some of case are not investigated properly they really do not want the bad publicity I feel so sorry for the families that don’t get answers. Dr. Grande you’re analysis is absolutely spot on as usual there is no one that could do it better. Thanks 🙏 again for another great 👍 video look forward to many more.
I’ve been waiting for this case. As a passenger on these very ships, this is slightly more than concerning.
A tragedy that didn't have to happen if there was video footage. It's an obvious solution.
Thanks Dr. Grande you were worth the wait🪴🪴🪴🪴
The probability of murder is still greater than the probability of a "rogue wave."
The cruise line should have said they thought she fell overboard doing something unwise, and kept the rogue wave theory to themselves.
IMO.
Also, hello to the Grande plants
Exactly!
Where is this data your looking at?
Rouge wave us likely so standard answer to reduce liabilities must heard mes the 5 maybe 10 times bit sketches in a way still high seas situation like 100 years ago
It's the data given in the video. Maybe you should ask Dr. Grande
Very interesting this one & so so sad she was from the next city were i live in UK, apparently looks like there is 300 people gone missing off cruise ships since 2010???? & if I've read it right that excludes the usual heart attacks & dying from natural causes....this is actual missing persons!???? Seems quite odd & a very untapped subject to explore maybe Dr Grande?? Would be great if you could cover some more mysteries from the seas...Enjoy your weekend Captain Grande of analysis ! 😎 xxx
Another interesting case and analysis. I had not heard about this case. So much better hearing the story from you than watching a one or two hour presentation on television !!! Thanks !!! 🌺🌺🌺
Thank you so much, Dr. Grande! I really appreciate how you look at things. You don't have an immediate bias. Thank you for always being fair.
I was just watching another video of yours when I saw you posted! You really keep pushing out great content!
I feel a disruption in the force. The non diagnosing & speculation is strong with this one.
😃 "nothing to see here, move along"
Does a turning point here exist?...Indeed, it seems as though we are treading towards more shallow waters...
There are so many cameras on the ships that there should be videos showing what happened.
The cruise lines do not value their employees if it’s causes the cruise line money or a scandal. I very much doubt SHE jumped overboard, thrown yes but jumped no.
Rogue wave? Wouldn't other passengers have seen it too? A wave big enough to climb up the side of the ship would be huge.
“Potentially fun” I love it hahah
Watching and listening to Dr Grande’s videos, makes makes me feel like I’m hanging out with an old friend.
Dr Grande thanks for informing the public of rogue ninja waves. That's good information to know.😉What were the police thinking?? Poor girl. Thank you for your analysis doc!💚💚
I remember this happening. Good analysis doc
Thanks for your dedication and deep research. You always know your stuff!
Dr Grande, I have a diff anon account to support a side project and I was SO DELIGHTED to see one of your videos amidst the rando algorithmic suggestions there. You’ve hit it big ❤️
A friend who grew up in the Bahamas once told me if you want the police to show up: $50. If you want them to catch somebody: $500. If you want them to catch the right person: $10,000.
I think the love triangle is the most unusual detail here. If i had to guess... I'd say she probably had an argument with her girlfriend and/or boyfriend, and perhaps was left feeling heartbroken. Such an argument could be intense enough to lead to ripped pieces of clothing, but also of a personal nature which fits with her "Yeah, fine" reply to a stranger. I'd guess her death was an impulsive act of suicide.
“Did she owe the wave money?” 😅❤️🥳!
I'm really fond of the idea of this channel because historically it's been so sober. His sarcasm is a negative for me. It won't take much to take it too far and make it a derivative of Judge Judy.
Dr. Grande, thank you for reteaching the importance of telling the truth -- something a preschooler understands. I think the leaders of all these organizations should sit cross-legged on the carpet while you recite the final two minutes of this video!
Another tragic issue...Your analysis is terrific. Thank you Dr. Grande
After seeing cruise ships stranded in the middle of the ocean (while running out of supplies) and the rules of international waters and how they work, you couldn't get me on a cruise ship for anything!
Can you imagine, somehow falling off your ship, only to see it float farther and farther away! I'd bet, that's prolly one of the loneliest experiences a person could have!
Seems like there's just a lot of bad things that can happen, that you personally, have no control over!
Doctor! You're looking fit and healthy! Looks like life is treating you well! Thank you for your commitment to your videos, wouldn't it be fun to somehow see all the people that you've helped or touched? If they were to line up, I'd bet there would be miles and miles of people that could quite possibly, stretch clear across a state! It must be very satisfying to actually help people like you do. Thank you Sir! You're much appreciated! 🧡💙🧡
Wonderful Video Dr. I Enjoyed it Sooo Much!! Thank You as Always!!!
Your humor always catches me off guard... Another great video, Dr. Grande! Thank you for your hard work. ❤️
Hey Dr G! 👋🏼 Hope you’re doing well!
Just had to say I think the sarcasm was justified and honest. Total empathy for the family while incorporating a win/win for all parties. well said. IMHO The hard thing to say "We don't know" if that were true is at least honest regardless of the answers. One of my most liked of your analysis TY
unfortunately, since her partners settled and agreed to never speak of it again, i believe they were given evidence that it was truly an accident. i hope they found their answers. great video!
Or suicide, so both parties have mutual interest covering up the case?
Once again, masterfully navigating the boundary between humour and the utmost respect for the victim & her friends and family. It's a shame that law enforcement are so often the butt of the joke, I guess when they do a good job there is less to talk about and the cases are perhaps less compelling as they are more often solved. Great video, love your work.
Hey @Dr Todd Grande-Can you PLEASE consider doing an analysis and review of "Big Edie" and "Little Edie'' Bouvier-aunt and cousin of Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onasis and the "Grey Gardens" infamy? Their stories and genuinely so interesting, fascinating and yet heartbreaking sad all at the same time. Thanks so much Dr Todd!!
Great idea. Lots going on there
@@sarahalbers5555 :)
"it was like a ninja wave trained in Stealth tactics" dry humour.
[knock-knock]: "Who is it?" "Rogue Wave, ma'am." "Well, okay, as long as you're not a land shark..."
Love this channel & excellent reviews of perplexing & unsolved cases...I have to ask Dr Grande: Please, please, please do a case review/analysis of the Jacob Gray dissapearance 🙏🏻🙂
This does seem like a repetitive pattern with cruise ship companies. Another disappearing person from a cruise ship that sounds like was swept away as quietly as possible with little care for finding the person.
I'm guessing the cruise line found film footage of what actually happened, hence the settlement to the family. If it was murder, I doubt the family would have agreed to an NDA. I'm guessing suicide, which tends to explain the family's willingness to hush it up, because there is footage showing she was noticeably upset around 5 am that morning.
Dr. Grande, your statement about the rogue wave shows how salty you are today. Glad to here it! You bring me a lot of information about true crime and psychology. I’m a masters degree student majoring in forensic psychology. These videos are quite helpful.
Really enjoyed this presentation Dr., I recall hearing about it and thought perhaps because she was drinking it was an accident thank you
What a sad tale. Poor Rebecca. Love your blue shirt Dr Grande 🇬🇧
There is a lot of murder and crimes that go on in International waters on cruise ships. My parents were on the Royal Caribbean Symphony of the seas when that Australian businessman was thrown overboard he was thrown overboard there were witnesses of a fight he was murdered but you don't hear about it do you and I still understood how their itinerary and the Facebook messages between my parents and I talking about What happened, guy was murdered on their cruise
4 months ago? How did I miss this one?? Good job Dr.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏💚
This is why I will never step foot on a cruise ship. To me, a cruise ship is nothing more than a floating housing project. Anything and everything can happen. Whatever did happen to her, I hope she didn’t suffer.
If she were distressed and inebriated, she may have suffered a sudden and catastrophic loss of judgement. And she may have let herself fall or slip of a railing into the ocean. The sea is a powerful force and anyone who has been on a ship at sea knows that. Sadly the idea that you may easily survive the fall and even enjoy the feel of the warm water encompass your body, may be alluring. However, once off the ship, the instant realization that nobody is there to see or rescue you, would be sheer horror. By then, it’s all too late. There is no turning back and no way to call for help.
Absolutely brilliant analysis. Complete objectivity is rare. Thank you!!