Jonathan Luna Case Analysis | Mysterious Death of an Assistant U.S. Attorney

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Komentáře • 881

  • @ruhap9311
    @ruhap9311 Před 2 lety +81

    I can't see see someone cutting themselves 30 times and cutting his own artery by accident, nope, injured testicle happen in a fight, then drowned in a river by... chance ?! it's just weird to me that people would want to think this was self inflicted. Probably he was going off the rails that put him in a bad situation, but the self inflicted theory is just weird.

    • @joannajamerson35
      @joannajamerson35 Před 2 lety +3

      I have researched this case and i believe that this was an inside job

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +4

      @@joannajamerson35 exactly.

    • @hannahcabana5403
      @hannahcabana5403 Před rokem +2

      I agree with you 100%

    • @SP-qo3pd
      @SP-qo3pd Před rokem +4

      They found wounds consistent with self harm. Suicide is a very unnatural act and he was working up the courage. When it comes to his testicles then ask his wife or the many partners he found online. The guy was probably kinky.

    • @ruhap9311
      @ruhap9311 Před rokem +1

      @@SP-qo3pd Cool, I have hard opinions on nothing anymore because of the half information given and there are just weird things that happen with billions of people.

  • @sparkplugpeggy4910
    @sparkplugpeggy4910 Před 2 lety +23

    the fact a second person's blood was found in the car makes me doubt it was a suicide

  • @vickigreenwood4016
    @vickigreenwood4016 Před 2 lety +37

    I’m leaning towards a homicide as the reason for his demise.
    The scattered money in the car, bad parking, engine still running, a drop of someone else’s blood, partial palm print?, two tanks of gas, two sodas, a toll ticket when he had “easy pass”, bruised testicles, 36 slashes with a pen knife and drowning in shallow water.
    It sounds like someone was driving in tandem with him for some reason, at a private spot they stopped and a struggle broke out. The money was scattered during a tussle and he may have tried to defend himself with the penknife and it was wrestled away from him and he was slashed at, out of the car he may have been kicked in the groin area and then held down with his face in the water?

    • @JL-ih3co
      @JL-ih3co Před rokem +5

      This seems very likely

  • @ghogsten
    @ghogsten Před 2 lety +27

    I. Still sticking with Pennsylvania M.E. Office. Money been missing from Baltimore before, and even the judge that Mr. Luna appeared in front of that day said, he drove a long way to commit suicide. His wife was a physician, they were fine with money. The sex b.s. online was another person, not this Luna. However, I’m not sure we will ever know. I feel bad for his family. His wife never talked publicly, and I understand that.

  • @georgehasleftthebuilding6621

    Dang, the DA's office OK'd leaving the actual CASH in those containers??? You are right Dr Grande, ANYONE could have snagged that container. This is sad because I have a feeling no one will PROPERLY investgate this incident.

    • @jessewilley531
      @jessewilley531 Před 2 lety +14

      I lived in Baltimore at the time. It was investigated. Maryland State Police. FBI. It just didn't go anywhere.

    • @iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568
      @iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 Před 2 lety +5

      Said the perpetrator…

    • @BeckBeckGo
      @BeckBeckGo Před 2 lety +7

      It was probably his prick of a boss. But he was a prosecutor, so it could have been a revenge kill. His wallet and money were intact so it was probably personal, regardless unless a hooker was defending her or himself.
      I don’t know how hard that could possibly be?

    • @jessewilley531
      @jessewilley531 Před 2 lety +4

      @@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 I was a college student in burbs back then. What little I know comes from my neighbor down the hall... who was an MSP detective had to work a thirty seven hour shift on the case.

    • @iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568
      @iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jessewilley531 wow interesting.. if he was bleeding out I thought the collapse drown thing sounded outrageous - but if he was minutes away from death it’s possible they were all self inflicted and he stumbled his way to the creek in a feet of desperate thirst - hearing that before one dies asking for water extreme thirst is a tell they’re about to go

  • @fasilharer1291
    @fasilharer1291 Před 2 lety +18

    He tortured himself before he killed himself ? Dude was murdered!

  • @karlaecisneros
    @karlaecisneros Před 2 lety +62

    “A pen knife is usually considered relatively safe. For example, we don’t see a lot of pen knife running biker gangs or hear police officers yelling: drop the pen knife.” 🤣😂. Love Dr. Grande’s dry humour 😂😂😂🙈

    • @joannajamerson35
      @joannajamerson35 Před 2 lety +2

      Why would Luna stab his own private area

    • @brianbauer2595
      @brianbauer2595 Před 2 lety

      That is hilarious.

    • @usa4393
      @usa4393 Před 2 lety +1

      In the middle of a very serious and sad story I find myself laughing at his dry humor!! Drop that pen knife said the policeman 👮‍♂️ 🤣😂

    • @waynejohnson1786
      @waynejohnson1786 Před 2 lety

      Basically it was a competition to see who could inflict the most extreme/painful acts of self mutilation and it usually involved male genitalia... a couple guys actually cut their wobbly bits off.
      My point is a lot of people have stabbed themselves in the dick 😂

  • @ritagoforth2317
    @ritagoforth2317 Před 2 lety +15

    Yes! You are right once again! There may be several unknowns in this case, but one thing we know for sure, is that he was a victim of a horrible investigation! ❤️

  • @Euterpe65
    @Euterpe65 Před 2 lety +11

    As soon as I heard that New Jersey was involved, I was waiting for a driving joke. Dr Grande never disappoints.

  • @Marissa-bh4uk
    @Marissa-bh4uk Před 2 lety +207

    You've been insanely consistent with your videos. I have no idea how you find the time to film and upload daily videos, but it's super impressive. Keep it up doc!!

    • @marshdweller01
      @marshdweller01 Před 2 lety +6

      I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.

    • @marshdweller01
      @marshdweller01 Před 2 lety +5

      Sorry, replied to the wrong comment.

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis Před 2 lety

      @@marshdweller01 xD

    • @alexJohnson9119
      @alexJohnson9119 Před 2 lety +1

      It's not hard to hire a research team

    • @Marissa-bh4uk
      @Marissa-bh4uk Před 2 lety +4

      @@alexJohnson9119 apparently not hard to be an ass either, as you have demonstrated.

  • @erikparent8176
    @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +115

    Didn't doctor Grande say there was somone elses blood in the car or am i mistaken?
    That's some fishy business! 🐟🐠🎣

    • @footballmaster4086
      @footballmaster4086 Před 2 lety +24

      And a partial print. Sounds like another party caused his death. Hesitation cuts......sounds like may be a female?

    • @edwinagreen3887
      @edwinagreen3887 Před 2 lety +20

      That's exactly what he said. Therefore the theory he chose as the most plausible can't be correct.

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +1

      @@footballmaster4086
      🙂👍

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +1

      @@edwinagreen3887
      😉✌

    • @kt11540
      @kt11540 Před 2 lety +4

      Facts!

  • @cassholevania5199
    @cassholevania5199 Před 2 lety +157

    Mr. Luna seemed like such a genuinely nice and hardworking man, he didn't deserve all the stressors he had to deal with prior to the incident with him getting reprimanded at work. Sad.

    • @LaGamyne
      @LaGamyne Před 2 lety +14

      That’s psychological harassement to get his démission

    • @cassholevania5199
      @cassholevania5199 Před 2 lety +5

      @@LaGamyne Exactly. Poor guy.

    • @briscoelang2436
      @briscoelang2436 Před 2 lety

      Many such cases

    • @jasonmichael3676
      @jasonmichael3676 Před 2 lety +10

      Well he appeared to have discipline problems. Infidelity and running up credit cards.

    • @RuFi0000000
      @RuFi0000000 Před 2 lety +14

      @@jasonmichael3676 That doesn't take anything away from his character had he been a good person. You know how many middle class families are running up credit cards to keep up with the Jones' while one or both spouses are creeping around? He was a young, black, aspiring attorney. From the time he was wearing suits in high school, you can tell that his personal image was important to him.
      I'm mixed, and I'm from a small white southern town. The difference in treatment I got when I wore full suits was astounding. I simply wore them to have an easier day. So its no wonder he's running up credit cards when he's around rich, powerful people. It's a crushingly insecure feeling to be black and poor around rich men with power. They don't want that image around them, and you don't want it around you, either. So you pretend. You run up cards and hope your hard work will let you pay it off eventually. He just got unlucky and clashed with his boss, who should have been his ticket to his dreams. Sad, really.

  • @marilynmcmahon5932
    @marilynmcmahon5932 Před 2 lety +14

    Sad ending for someone who started well.

  • @quanfa88
    @quanfa88 Před 2 lety +70

    The NJ driving comment was so subtle, I’m sure no one from NJ noticed. Rest assured those of us from the South did.

    • @mimisezlol
      @mimisezlol Před 2 lety +6

      As someone who's experiences multiple rude NC and SC drivers, I'm ready to argue
      (I'm not)
      (I'm teasing)

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz Před 2 lety +10

      Dr. Grande says things about nj every third episode. It's part of his shtick. Funny, as he's from Delaware, the 'nothing to see here state'. 😆

    • @melistasy
      @melistasy Před 2 lety +8

      Haha I came to the comment section looking for this comment! 😂 . Dr Grande was so smooth and subtle with that NJ jab.

    • @marshdweller01
      @marshdweller01 Před 2 lety +4

      I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.

    • @melindac3368
      @melindac3368 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mimisezlol As a North Carolinian, when I see a tag from Virginia, I try to get away from them asap.

  • @lornaginetteharrison7168
    @lornaginetteharrison7168 Před 2 lety +94

    "He left his office without his glasses which he needed to drive, but he may have had another pair in his vehicle or he just decided to drive poorly. He would end up driving through New Jersey; maybe he was just trying to fit in." As usual Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery only adds to the severity of the burn! Take that, drivers of NJ!🔥

    • @MrAragon131
      @MrAragon131 Před 2 lety +9

      I had to run that back to catch it. I laughed SO HARD

    • @ppumpkin3282
      @ppumpkin3282 Před 2 lety +5

      I normally wear glasses when I drive, but if I left them behind, I still could drive. The only difference is I wouldn't be able tread signs until I'm up close, but I could still see everything, but not as clearly with my glasses.

    • @polarvortex3294
      @polarvortex3294 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes this was a crazy burn, and you'd never notice that it went down if you were just looking at him talk. Even listening closely it blends right in, and almost sounds like some scientific point.

    • @chandracox6814
      @chandracox6814 Před 2 lety +3

      Dr. G really despises NJ! 😂😂

    • @chandracox6814
      @chandracox6814 Před 2 lety +4

      @@polarvortex3294 he's so deadpan when he says his jokes....like they're matter of fact. Fucking hilarious!

  • @BurroGirl
    @BurroGirl Před 2 lety +167

    So sad. He had been such a good kid and had been straight as an arrow on his career path. I feel for him.

    • @solarnaut
      @solarnaut Před 2 lety +7

      I knew someone who "fell in" to stealing from a remotely audited routine work cash flow . . . eventually it caught up with him and he remarked that he had developed the (hmmm, was it "worst possible" or "easiest" ? ) addiction of all . . . an addiction for money. The price tag for being seduced by the sirens of life are rarely initially apparent. Wikipedia : In Greek mythology, the sirens were dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island." . . . in this case it was perhaps a muddy creek ! :-/

    • @maxwellschneiter
      @maxwellschneiter Před 2 lety +8

      ...until he stole $36,000 from the state. It is not normal to bring cash into court as evidence like that, the fact that any of it went missing makes pretty obvious that the prosecutor who initiated it was involved in the theft.

    • @solarnaut
      @solarnaut Před 2 lety +5

      @@maxwellschneiter he must'a just watched "Miracle on 34th Street" where the evidence is bags and bags and bags of U.S. mail . . . nothing will persuade the jury like a quick roll in the dough ! B-)

    • @BurroGirl
      @BurroGirl Před 2 lety +17

      @@crochunter35 one can still feel empathy for what a dead person dealt with while alive.

    • @jjohnsengraciesmom
      @jjohnsengraciesmom Před 2 lety +5

      @@maxwellschneiter could the money have been brought in for dramatic effect? Don't they bring evidence to court? Though I agree it is risky.

  • @gustavoherrera6754
    @gustavoherrera6754 Před 2 lety +69

    Thank you Dr Grande. Learning with you is the best way to start a day.

  • @mellel5594
    @mellel5594 Před 2 lety +43

    High Note! Nice one, Dr. Grande! This case has intrigued me for a while. Thank you for highlighting it!

    • @melindac3368
      @melindac3368 Před 2 lety +2

      I liked both the "High Note" and the NJ drivers comment about trying to fit in.

  • @ElusvOptmst1
    @ElusvOptmst1 Před 2 lety +116

    I sense his boss may have something to do with his troubles. This case is a sad and unusual one. RIP Jonathan Luna.

    • @DonPeyote420
      @DonPeyote420 Před 2 lety +13

      maybe the boss was the one who stole it

    • @mombasa7
      @mombasa7 Před 2 lety +6

      The boss should be investigated!

    • @solowu
      @solowu Před 2 lety +5

      Absolutely agree!

    • @rayr4320
      @rayr4320 Před 2 lety +9

      There is significant oversight when working as an attorney at a federal level. Luna likely had numerous bosses and his work scrutinized by many superiors. The fact that he moved quickly from several jobs, his superiors "did not like" his plea agreement(s) suggest there were numerous incidents where they were not happy with work performance. Blowing cases at that level costs the government millions of dollars. Also worth noting was the debt he sustained despite having a wife who was an active physician. He also took a year off at law school, which is unusual, even if a parent had cancer. The night of his demise, when he headed out for his final ride, transpired when he was due in court the next day very early. That is totally irrational. He was likely psychotic because he had to write up a legal writ and he couldnt finish in a timely manner. People often think big time federal positions are easy, but they take brains, commitment and focused scholarship. Its clear that Luna was missing on or more of these components.

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +6

      @@rayr4320 and again, his bosses had something to do with his death.

  • @harlemmeow9776
    @harlemmeow9776 Před 2 lety +15

    When I get into bed it’s off to CZcams to watch the latest Dr. Grande. I love listening to your voice as you explain these cases!

  • @JP-wx6uh
    @JP-wx6uh Před 2 lety +26

    Oh the Luna case! This is a pretty interesting one. I'm glad you covered this.

  • @seltzertime2809
    @seltzertime2809 Před 2 lety +76

    Good morning Dr. Grande! I just finished listening to the second season of the To Live and Die in LA podcast, and thought you might be interested in it for an upcoming episode. It’s about a missing 20-year-old girl. What really interested me in it is the mother’s really strange behavior after her daughter goes missing.

    • @jamesa6080
      @jamesa6080 Před 2 lety +6

      What’s the persons name?

    • @seltzertime2809
      @seltzertime2809 Před 2 lety +10

      @@jamesa6080 Elaine Park-she disappeared near Calabasas, CA

  • @justkim9827
    @justkim9827 Před 2 lety +37

    I'm just gonna say...the kid was set up by his boss (when the money went missing). Such a shame. Some people suck.
    This young man was too pure for where his career took him. There is so much corruption in DC, at the FTC and in the AG's offices. He seemed like the type of man who genuinely wanted to do the right thing and he probably crossed some bad people in his career.
    Probably a hit. Easily covered up because it was most likely committed by somebody in prosecutors office

    • @aalm7966
      @aalm7966 Před 2 lety +3

      Pure? Satisfying? Wholesome? Gen X speech. 😝

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +2

      Agree. Best comment

    • @owlfethurz8377
      @owlfethurz8377 Před rokem +2

      Just Kim, I agree, you wrapped up my thoughts on this very well. Murder, but a very very premeditated and planned to confuse murder. Could be someone with a lot of power.

    • @phdtobe
      @phdtobe Před rokem +6

      Sure. He cancelled that $30,000 loan app and came up with $10,000 in cash totally because he didn’t steal that money. He probably found it near that creek in Pennsylvania and went back there to look for more.

    • @mangafq8
      @mangafq8 Před 11 měsíci

      He wasn't exactly a kid. Married with 2 children. A guy from the hood who did well, but he was involved in some nefarious activity and a procrastinator. Working in the office late and driving off the way he did is a head shaker. God bless his wife and kids. May he RIP🙏

  • @marysisak2359
    @marysisak2359 Před 2 lety +110

    It always scares me when there are stories of people that appear to be doing fine and having it all but then go off the rails for some reason. I can not help but wonder what made that happen.

    • @thecatatemyhomework
      @thecatatemyhomework Před 2 lety +36

      The key word is "appear." They are not necessarily doing fine, it just appears that way to the outside world.

    • @babycakes8434
      @babycakes8434 Před 2 lety +7

      They play it cool in front of the world, but they have a lot of skeletons in their closet.

    • @MJanovicable
      @MJanovicable Před 2 lety +2

      You must be confused a lot since it's clear he was murdered.

  • @silverbullett6684
    @silverbullett6684 Před 2 lety +48

    Being a Philly native and having a son that lives in Maryland, it's unusual that this guy took the long way to get to Lancaster County from Baltimore. Route 895 North or 83 North will get you there in less than 2 hours, as Maryland does border Pennsylvania in that area. This guy took 95 North through 3 states. Sounds like he may have been having a psychotic break, cause 95 SUCKS ASS!

    • @jessicaross1841
      @jessicaross1841 Před 2 lety +8

      Yes! Details matter! This guy drove an hour out of his way either for a specific reason, or like you stated, he had a break with reality.

    • @napatora
      @napatora Před 2 lety +11

      i live in delaware and i was thinking the same exact thing. there was literally no obvious reason for him to drive through here and jersey to get to lancaster.

    • @joannajamerson35
      @joannajamerson35 Před 2 lety +5

      That's absolutely impossible I think about this case all the time there's no way he did this to himself it was an inside job why would he stab his own genital area I mean come on

    • @2300enduserperson1
      @2300enduserperson1 Před 2 lety +4

      Same here! Philly native. my hubby and I were talking about 95 and how it’s horrendous. I’ll double down on your statement, and add Roosevelt Blvd (Cottman and Torressdale Avenue too). All of the highways and aves mentioned would make anyone insane.

    • @grndmst9
      @grndmst9 Před 2 lety +6

      @@2300enduserperson1 From Philly area also. Some people do just prefer 95, my grandfather was like that, whereas my Mom thought he was out of his mid, so maybe just a case of that here? Or, maybe ot, this case is very strange for sure.

  • @djcastano1180
    @djcastano1180 Před 2 lety +16

    “He had to drive through New Jersey. Maybe he was just trying to fit in.”

    • @cdorman11
      @cdorman11 Před 2 lety

      When I see bad driving in NJ, the plates are from Penn. as often as not. Maybe they THINK they'll fit in by driving poorly, just as people newly arrived to NYC think they will fit in by acting rude.

  • @BestBeatMakerEver
    @BestBeatMakerEver Před 2 lety +43

    I'm really enjoying this. For some reason, I believe he was abducted at the office. If he was going to meet someone, he would have taken his phone. If he had to drive to all of those locations, I believe he would have taken his glasses to drive at night. Did they check his blood for alcohol or drugs? I know women would kick a man in his testicles but a man would too if he wanted him to have pain, Sounds to me that he was abducted and tortured. It could have been the people he was trying to work a deal for, the boss, or even his wife. Was there a video at his job to see if he left the building alone? Was there a camera in any of the intersections he drove by or on the atm? Did they test his clothing for hair or any other item that could identify someone else? Were there fingerprints on the penknife or in the car, or even outside the car? Who was the last person to email, text, or call him? I have so many questions about this case. How many of the bottles of water were drunk and were there fingerprints. Geez, wish I would have had to investigate as an occupation lol. I like this!

    • @cdorman11
      @cdorman11 Před 2 lety +7

      Sounds like you're on the right track. I think he pulled the penknife on whoever was with him, and they took it from him.

    • @BestBeatMakerEver
      @BestBeatMakerEver Před 2 lety +2

      @@cdorman11 Great assessment and thanks.

    • @hillehai
      @hillehai Před rokem +2

      A man died.

    • @hannahcabana5403
      @hannahcabana5403 Před rokem +3

      I think it was his boss that killed him

    • @Moodboard39
      @Moodboard39 Před 25 dny

      Sound he was like jumped ! Got kicked in the nuts

  • @sandragainey9592
    @sandragainey9592 Před 2 lety +27

    I have to listen to this again. My first thought would be to look at his boss. But the two tanks of gas suggests a long trip. But $200 wouldn't go far. Maybe he met a he/she and the negotiations fell through in the woods. News is reporting his throat was also slit. Very sad ending for this young professional. Sometimes we just need time to get a grip on our lives and to mature. He unfortunately didn't get this chance.🙁

  • @MarshallTJones-fn4uj
    @MarshallTJones-fn4uj Před 2 lety +55

    Nobody "slashes" themselves 36 times, when ONE cut in the right place(self-inflicted) gets the job done hands down

    • @msmellowmood84
      @msmellowmood84 Před 2 lety +8

      This. I think he picked up a prostitute and she or he killed him, potentially out of self defense. The genital bruising could be him repeatedly trying to force himself on someone and they said no at some point and he had ‘already paid.’ Or small cuts is his kink, like being burned with candle wax, and someone accidentally cut too deep and then fled. Who knows. But doing that type of damage to yourself, while driving? Seems harder to believe to me personally.

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +5

      @@msmellowmood84 my initial comment was deleted by I don’t know who, so it just proves my theory. His genitals was bruised because he was exposing a child predator ring with some major federal players involved. Since he was exposing what they were doing with their genitals, they attacked his while murdering him.

    • @m.sb.1806
      @m.sb.1806 Před 2 lety +9

      And NO ONE hits themselves in the genitals

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +1

      @@somethingelse4424 And… anyway I’m not reading all of that…. I got my info from an article that was posted online years ago. Google search is your friend. Good night. Don’t @ me.

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +1

      @@somethingelse4424 bye bxtch 🙃

  • @randikiki1517
    @randikiki1517 Před 2 lety +29

    You find the most interesting cases to highlight. So interesting! I really love your content. Keep up the outstanding work. I never miss a video!

  • @DonPeyote420
    @DonPeyote420 Před 2 lety +39

    brother tried his best to crawl out of the projects to the top and still ended up shanked.

    • @Goldii_Locks
      @Goldii_Locks Před 2 lety +1

      White men for ya can’t stand a brother at the top; offed by his own people..🥴

    • @hannahcabana5403
      @hannahcabana5403 Před rokem +1

      He's part Filipino and part black.

    • @aheimdahl5201
      @aheimdahl5201 Před rokem +2

      @@hannahcabana5403 It doesn't matter.
      People react to what they see, and they don't see the Filipino.
      To look at him, you would not know about the Filipino heritage unless you knew his background - he just looks like a light - skinned Black Dude.
      So no, it really doesn't matter.

    • @hannahcabana5403
      @hannahcabana5403 Před rokem +1

      @@aheimdahl5201 The filipino in him is so loud and clear, he hardly looks black. I thought he was just a dark Asian

    • @aheimdahl5201
      @aheimdahl5201 Před rokem

      @@hannahcabana5403 Define Black.
      Believe it or not, we actually come in skin Shades from pretty nearly white to very deep.
      Some of us are so light - skinned that we were able to pass for White back in the day.
      What you _think_ Black is isn't all there is.

  • @Darkmark-tu5ds
    @Darkmark-tu5ds Před 2 lety +15

    Drop the pen knife may be my favorite line from all of your videos! Thank you for making my day more enjoyable, Dr. Grande and thank you for doing cases that haven’t been touched on a gazillion times!

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety +24

    The Saguaro Cactus is back, in the lower right hand corner. Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing any Saguaro Cactus in this video, only speculating about a Saguaro Cactus that just happens to look like an oversized sex toy like this.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Před 2 lety +2

      That explains his nickname of "Spikey Prick".

    • @BigZebraCom
      @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety +1

      @@eadweard. I didn't know that was his name! Thanks, that pulls it all together!

    • @Jess-db3gi
      @Jess-db3gi Před 2 lety

      That was my first thought when I saw the little American cactus 😂 my brain only saw the blue and not the rest of it and my mind went somewhere else 😂😂

    • @BigZebraCom
      @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety

      @@Jess-db3gi My mind is almost always somewhere else--My mind is almost always in the gutter; But the rent is so cheap I can't resist.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety

      Seems there is always an adult corner of comments! Thankfully they are usually kept pretty tame!🐇🐣🐁🐣🐀

  • @k.r.murphy4301
    @k.r.murphy4301 Před 2 lety +19

    I remember reading about this when it happened. I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to talk about it. It seemed so curious to me but I do agree with your theory (#2). Thank you.

  • @TecOneself
    @TecOneself Před 2 lety +55

    Wonderful to be on time and loyal with your audience, I wish we could hear the clapping. Learning and feeling depth to reason is so important, thank you Dr. Grande.

    • @johnboyle5703
      @johnboyle5703 Před 2 lety +5

      My Shukras vibrate with Dr Grandes intonations

  • @Ba-pb8ul
    @Ba-pb8ul Před 2 lety +16

    Strange anyone would think this suicide when there was someone else's blood in the car, and he was in his suit. Also, hard to believe anyone would stab themselves, esp 36 X. You'd slash, you wouldn't stab, nor inflict cranial damage, and place yourself under the engine.. I wonder about the FBI who claimed it was - perhaps there was a big weekend ahead. Given the weapon and the probability he used it before it was taken off him my thoughts turn to a pimp. Regarding the locus, it wouldn't have to be the sight of the attack. He might have driven from his assailant and died elsewhere

  • @carvercapitalequitypartner122

    How does 1 guy with 1 vehicle purchase and pump 2 tanks of gas if he was alone?
    Was all that gas pumped?

    • @hannahcabana5403
      @hannahcabana5403 Před rokem

      Whoever the killers was, was a very clever person. I think Jonathan was familiar with his killer(s), and he was not suspicious of them.
      I think his killer(s) cadually asked Jonathan to get the gas because they didn't want to get out of the car and be seen on the security cameras at the gas station, and they knew they had to drive far away after they killed him.
      The whole thing was a setup by his boss and covered up by the FBI.

  • @Anonymous38572
    @Anonymous38572 Před 2 lety +17

    Thank you for another great analysis Dr. Cactus

  • @lauraplitt3840
    @lauraplitt3840 Před 2 lety +5

    I worked with his brother David back in the late 90s/early 2000s when this went down. He was quiet, never missed a day of work and never spoke about the incident.

    • @aick56
      @aick56 Před 2 lety

      This case has always bothered me. I was trying to rememver his name a few weeks ago.

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson Před 2 lety +3

    My mom used to quote"It's not the hopping over hurdles that hurts the horses hoves! It's the hammer, hammer, hammer on the hard highway! Once someone has reached a certain level through hard work and goal achievement the let down of the everyday humdrum and the often times unfair expectations of psycho bosses can break a good person who may seek excitement or stimulation in immoral or illegal outlets! This seems to me to often happen to overachievers!

    • @billhildebrand5053
      @billhildebrand5053 Před 2 lety +1

      Amén. Just don’t go to the High Note bar by any means. There are other ways to regulate your emotions. 🏖🏖🏝🏝🏖🏖(ie WAtch 10* a la grande * videos to ease stress..)

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety +2

      Bill - Best advice! 💎

    • @cacu3989
      @cacu3989 Před 2 lety +1

      That's a fantastic analogy

  • @bubbabroad9051
    @bubbabroad9051 Před rokem +3

    THAT’s where I heard about this case: Casefile!
    Thank you, Dr Grande for covering it too.
    I do think it suspicious that he left so much in his office. That is why I think he was held hostage in his own car/two cars.
    Tricky one!

  • @sixthsenseamelia4695
    @sixthsenseamelia4695 Před 2 lety +22

    Good morning from New Zealand Dr T. Could you analyse the current case of Jessica Lynch. Body hidden in a loft at the MBTA Station. Boston. Great to see you!

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 Před 2 lety +9

    So glad to be early "in a situation like this".

  • @edwinagreen3887
    @edwinagreen3887 Před 2 lety +4

    But if another person's blood was found on the scene then it can't possibly be suicide, so your theory isn't plausible

    • @jamesbowman6925
      @jamesbowman6925 Před 2 lety +1

      If there was other blood there, it could have been old. Luna could've had a passenger with a cut finger, for instance. It does seem odd, though.

  • @rivernuri
    @rivernuri Před 2 lety +1

    "High note."
    This is the kind of quality quip I'm bingeing this channel for.

  • @rpitt5066
    @rpitt5066 Před 2 lety +14

    I give weight to the possibility of the multiple withdrawals, being forced on him, or his attempt to be seen. I think that he wanted to be picked up on camera, at the toll booth.

  • @erin6083
    @erin6083 Před 2 lety +6

    This case fascinated me when it happened and still does.

  • @tessalimits8893
    @tessalimits8893 Před 2 lety +12

    Ending the week on a High Note!

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +2

      Snoop Dog and Seth Rogan want in!
      🚬🔴🔴

  • @katmd405
    @katmd405 Před 2 lety +6

    And you would trust the US Attorneys office? I’m betting Jonathan was a scapegoat. He probably wouldn’t play ball.

  • @Matthew_G__
    @Matthew_G__ Před 2 lety +10

    Dr. Grande, what about Kenneth Ravenell? It sounds like he would have had a strong motive in this case and is alleged to be a corrupt defense attorney, recently indicted on numerous federal charges.

  • @ChristinePerez903
    @ChristinePerez903 Před 2 lety +11

    What a sad story. I wonder what the wife thinks happen
    Great video Dr Grande!!!

  • @JeepGirl941
    @JeepGirl941 Před 2 lety +8

    Sure would like to know what happened to Ray Gricar, the DA in Centre County PA who disappeared April 15, 2005. Some think his disappearance is connected to this Luna case.

    • @jblue705
      @jblue705 Před 6 měsíci

      I think that was a suicide.

  • @NickvonZ
    @NickvonZ Před 2 lety +32

    Very interesting.
    When I was a Police Officer, I responded to a few suicides (after the fact, of course), and when someone uses a blade to cut their throat or wrists, there are always a few, or several, superficial cuts that were made before the coup de grace, in my experience, as you mentioned here.

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +12

      Thanks for your service Nick!
      Somtimes police officers get a bum rap! 🤝🚔👍

    • @NickvonZ
      @NickvonZ Před 2 lety +20

      @@erikparent8176 Thank YOU! It was my pleasure.
      5 years US Army Combat Military Police, 5 years civilian Police Officer. Had the chance to do some good for society.
      It's NICE to be APPRECIATED! 🙂👍

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 Před 2 lety +6

      @@NickvonZ
      🚔😉👍

    • @SynnJynn
      @SynnJynn Před 2 lety +5

      @@NickvonZ thank you for your continued service ^-^

    • @NickvonZ
      @NickvonZ Před 2 lety +2

      @@SynnJynn 💖👍

  • @tonyr1950
    @tonyr1950 Před 2 lety +2

    Poor guy, one thing is for certain, nothing good happens after 2:00 AM.

  • @jimc6687
    @jimc6687 Před 2 lety +21

    Picking on my old home state of New Jersey once again......I love it!! That music store "High Note" is actually in downtown Newark!! :> ) Jim C.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz Před 2 lety +5

      He didn't mention Newark. He's from Delaware, so he gets a pass. ; )

  • @gmack3883
    @gmack3883 Před 2 lety +13

    Well if a doctor and a lawyer can’t make ends meet financially then nobody can.

    • @nealwilliams7743
      @nealwilliams7743 Před 2 lety +3

      There professional school debts
      & two children is extremely costly.

  • @itsonlystars
    @itsonlystars Před 2 lety +2

    What a sad story!

  • @ultraviolet6989
    @ultraviolet6989 Před 2 lety +6

    Wow this is the earliest I've ever been on a Dr. Grande video(3mins)! Feeling strangely proud of myself 😆

  • @juneaskew6871
    @juneaskew6871 Před 2 lety +3

    Everything about this case sounds suspicious! Like someone set him up.
    RIP JONATHAN LUNA 🙏

  • @masterblaster7688
    @masterblaster7688 Před 2 lety +30

    I actually feel for this guy all he went through as a young man regardless of regardless of how it turned out in the end the fact that he stayed home to take care of his dad outweigh outweigh anything else that he probably ever did bad in his life. at least to me

  • @clarissa8477
    @clarissa8477 Před 2 lety +68

    Maybe there was someone at the gas station that needed help, and he paid to fill up their tank. What a strange story.

    • @oldbatwit5102
      @oldbatwit5102 Před 2 lety +10

      Yep. A friend of mine was bi-polar and when he was particularly stressed would offer to pay for stranger's groceries.

    • @dertbom
      @dertbom Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah, it seems more likely, but not enough detail there. They looked at the surveillance tape, so that seems like someone would have noticed a person hanging around needing help.
      I wonder how much exactly was the cost of each. Was he trying to just split the cost on two different cards ... he had 16 of them?

    • @f.4588
      @f.4588 Před 2 lety +4

      I am wondering if he just wanted to buy both an extra can of gas & soda anticipating a longer drive! It could be one of many things running through his head.

    • @dertbom
      @dertbom Před 2 lety +2

      @@f.4588 That would have been easy to ascertain, and it wouldn't be a mystery. I don't think it's clear if he had any gas cans.
      I thought the same thing at first.
      Even if he did, then where are the cans of gas and soda?

    • @melindac3368
      @melindac3368 Před 2 lety +2

      Clarissa, I thought the same thing, that he was helping someone at that gas station.

  • @tecumsehcristero
    @tecumsehcristero Před 2 lety +10

    "We don't hear about those penknife wielding biker gangs "
    Gotta love those white hot but super cold Grande burns

  • @zachrogozin1950
    @zachrogozin1950 Před 2 lety +3

    Lunas Body was found 5 minutes from where I live, and I drive past that spot almost every day… I highly doubt that location was ever used for people to meet up for sex

  • @kellyfelly6645
    @kellyfelly6645 Před 2 lety +4

    "HIGH NOTE!" THANK YOU Dr Grande for this interesting analysis.

  • @myozbubble
    @myozbubble Před 2 lety +11

    The purchase of 2 tanks of gas and 2 sodas could have been fraud by the person taking the payment. Was it done by credit card? I had a store clerk attempt to do that to me once.
    This is a very mysterious case. Thanks for covering it so well.

  • @beeimaginative
    @beeimaginative Před 2 lety +9

    High Note! - impressed

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Před 2 lety +20

    That’s such a puzzling case, I am on the fence with this one.
    The humor was very subtle, yet on point.😅😁
    Urgh, I have no counter augment regarding NJ drivers.😒
    Thank you for the review and I hope you have a great weekend.❤️
    BTW, I love the diagonal arrangement of the plants, it’s so very pleasing to the eyes.🌵👌🏼

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 Před 2 lety +1

      Rejane;how come I didn't notice the plants ?lol.

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cottontails9003 😄😁

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 Před 2 lety +1

      @@levondelite4072Thank you for your comment!😃 I always scan the area at the beginning of each video. I am not particularly good with decor but that’s just a habit of mine.😉

  • @sarahalbers5555
    @sarahalbers5555 Před 2 lety +3

    Loving the daily content. Thanks Dr. G.

  • @annathomas168
    @annathomas168 Před 2 lety +6

    Oh God….I love your analysis. “Penknife gang” 😂

  • @MultiBloo897
    @MultiBloo897 Před 2 lety +5

    Sadly, the comments on this channel makes light of his torture and homicide. It was murder.

  • @diamondleigh7280
    @diamondleigh7280 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm honestly glad you ( Dr Grande) didn't say Jonathan mother was African American, instead you said she was Black ( American) I for one can appreciate this..... To be called you're someone you're not, can be extremely frustrating..... My great great great grandparents were American, ( honestly that's the furthest I've went back in my family history).... So thank you ❤️😌
    Your dry humor is pretty hilarious 😄 also...... Haha

    • @aalm7966
      @aalm7966 Před 2 lety

      Where do you stand on the copper coloured theory?

  • @raechelgrantham8134
    @raechelgrantham8134 Před 2 lety +8

    Ah, yes. Humor drier than my morning toast, and I love it. I believe it's more likely an accidental suicide. He wanted to appear beaten and bloody but took it too far, lost consciousness and drowned. Great content as always Dr.!

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety

      Try apple butter it's nice this time of year!

    • @cokedupgirlscout
      @cokedupgirlscout Před 2 lety +2

      I thought that too. Only thing is I feel like the medical examiner should’ve been able to tell if the wounds were self-inflicted, but what do I know lol. I also can’t picture any guy, even a mentally ill person in crisis, hitting their own balls so hard it leaves bruising. It’s all so bizarre!!

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Před 2 lety +3

    What an interesting case. Happy Friday & Thanks Dr G😊❤💜

  • @OGitGirlJess
    @OGitGirlJess Před 2 lety +2

    I pray Mr. Luna has now found the peace that alluded him on earth 🙏💔

  • @quanfa88
    @quanfa88 Před 2 lety +67

    Tip for Dr. Grande - when you give your disclaimer about “not diagnosing anyone,” wink three times at the camera.

    • @Kilaueaorph4n
      @Kilaueaorph4n Před 2 lety +6

      Ok, CZcams can close their servers for the rest of the day. No comment can beat yours 😉😉😉

    • @jeniferjoseph9200
      @jeniferjoseph9200 Před 2 lety +5

      It’s actually a good thing that he doesn’t diagnose people

    • @quanfa88
      @quanfa88 Před 2 lety +3

      Well, it’s a good thing that he isn’t diagnosing me.

    • @darlenelawson1255
      @darlenelawson1255 Před 2 lety +2

      This case is crazy in many ways with more than one answer to the question" who killed this guy??" I'm going to have to split my answer. I am going against the popular answer. So 60/40 that he was murdered or hurt and then fell into the creek. These are getting harder to provide a good answer.😬💙🇨🇦💙🍩🥧

    • @kemeee5407
      @kemeee5407 Před 2 lety

      @@Kilaueaorph4n Agreed! 😂😂😂

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Před 2 lety +9

    Another interesting video from Grande.

  • @jasonhollaway6476
    @jasonhollaway6476 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank u Dr Grande for everything u do for us I love ur channel and look forward to it openion on things!!

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox Před 2 lety +2

    Why would you literally need to wheel the money into the court room ?

  • @TS-yb2lo
    @TS-yb2lo Před 2 lety +4

    Alright Dr. Grande, this is the THIRD snide remark about Jersey drivers. Let's see how many you can get. I've got my eye on you...
    Sincerely, a New Jersey driver.

    • @ninaroy5574
      @ninaroy5574 Před měsícem

      I go to AC a lot by bus from NYC and I have to admit that NJ drivers are scary! I am glad I'm not driving through the NJ turnpike!

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 Před 2 lety +3

    I remember this Case. Thank You for covering it!

  • @dominiccovey8934
    @dominiccovey8934 Před 2 lety +6

    Did you just burn every driver in NJ? Savage!

  • @samuelWx
    @samuelWx Před 2 lety +5

    "Drop the pin knife buddy and hand me those tweezers, don't do anything foolish."

  • @ECevescloset
    @ECevescloset Před rokem +2

    Jonathon was a friend, he was murdered. he was a wonderful person a special person. Thank you for taking an interest. My heart still aches that someone so caring and loving suffered so much. Bullshit regarding debts all lies.

    • @ECevescloset
      @ECevescloset Před rokem +1

      He was never without his glasses.

    • @ECevescloset
      @ECevescloset Před rokem +1

      Read the Midnight Ride of Jonathon Luna. They were not in overwhelming debt. A, his was a paediatrician he was an attorney. They lived a modest life. Perhaps he was lured out of his office. Perhaps he wasn’t the one who was driving. J was always calm and collected. He had no reason to kill himself.

  • @TimidTortoise1988
    @TimidTortoise1988 Před 2 lety +1

    Your jokes are always on point! Took me a second to catch the lack of glasses and fitting in with New Jersey drivers but that had me cracking up. Another great video as always!

  • @GetSicRiCH
    @GetSicRiCH Před 2 lety +4

    This is my first time happening upon your channel, and i very much appreciate how well you summarize the story, and your professionalism and analysis of theories is an exceptional addition to True Crime television. Most hosts come from a more casual disposition, so it is refreshing _in a cool nerdy way_ to get your pov.
    thX★ *i will keep wAtChing*

  • @kathylingen1667
    @kathylingen1667 Před 2 lety

    Great analysis Dr Grande. Thank you.

  • @whoisharo4689
    @whoisharo4689 Před 2 lety +6

    Hrande almost got 1M subs! Congrats Mr Dr sir!

  • @hooverkinz
    @hooverkinz Před 2 lety +6

    I would love a dyatlov pass video! Just a reminder I am not diagnosing that I would love it just speculating on how I would feel in a situation like this.

  • @claudiahemmings2080
    @claudiahemmings2080 Před 2 lety

    Another concise and engaging video. I always enjoy your dry humour.

  • @blinkie1114
    @blinkie1114 Před rokem +1

    Your punches at NJ are hilarious and completely warranted, hilarious and true.

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 Před 2 lety +4

    Great analysis Dr Grande. If I had to pick a theory it would be # 2. I believe this mans life was so out of control, he put an end too his life. Thank you Dr Grande .

  • @autumnedwards4448
    @autumnedwards4448 Před 2 lety +2

    Very strange circumstances for a death for sure. But your analysis was very informative as always Dr Grande! Thank you!💖💖

  • @Olive131
    @Olive131 Před 2 lety +3

    Wonder if he became entangled with bad actors in one of his cases? You said his boss didn't like some deals he had made.

  • @crimeteetee
    @crimeteetee Před 2 lety +4

    Interesting video and one worth watching

  • @audreywellham2413
    @audreywellham2413 Před 2 lety

    Your wit is always fabulous!

    • @audreywellham2413
      @audreywellham2413 Před 2 lety

      I hate all the cases but I catch your subtle nuances as a RN. Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @margosantucci1762
    @margosantucci1762 Před 2 lety +4

    I recently came across your channel, and continue to look forward to your videos. How do you purchase 2 tanks of gas for 1 vehicle? I think he was murdered. I must add your dry humor cracks me up.

  • @kellyfelly6645
    @kellyfelly6645 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting case. I must agree with your analysis. Thank you Dr Grande.

  • @abdisamamedia
    @abdisamamedia Před 2 lety

    Good analysis Dr G

  • @Rubylove48
    @Rubylove48 Před 2 lety +5

    hey dr Grande, could you please analyse the case of dag hammerskjold? UN Secretary General? It may be a tough ask but just wondering. Thanks.

  • @gloriaelmore9092
    @gloriaelmore9092 Před 2 lety +2

    This is a very interesting episode.