Actually thinking about getting a Tesla that on occasion might haul my atv trailer for hunting trips. Thanks for the video! Would love to see more blaze orange and camo in Teslas!
Thanks! You can’t use autopilot with a trailer connected. It’s disabled when it senses a trailer is plugged in. The vehicle automatically goes into trailer mode when you plug in the 7 pin adapter. Everything else works normally though.
It used to when I first started towing but it seems like some kind of update might have fixed that. I use the setup all the time with my dump bed trailer and flat bed in this video. From what I can tell it doesn't trigger the echo until I touch the brakes now. I watch the screen to see as I let off the pedal if the echo is braking, it's easy to see. When I let off the pedal quickly it seems the deceleration is all regen, and it's amazingly effective. I prefer towing with my Model Y over my 2017 Ford Expedition and 2005 Chevy Avalanche 2500. It pulls more effortlessly, and the one pedal driving is killer... Additionally, the lower/more even weight distribution seems to keep my Model Y more planted.
Yes, I gain lots of range on grades going down and don’t have to use any vehicle or trailer brakes. From top to bottom on a 3-6 mile grade I might gain as many miles or even double back in range by the bottom.
Hello everyone that was an excellent video have a question if people could please chime in. I currently drive a Tacoma pick up truck I sell windows it’s my small business at any given time I have 20 pieces of glass in my truck which Weighs maybe four or 500 pounds I’m thinking of getting a lightweight aluminum open trailer which may weigh 500 pounds so in total I thousand or 1200 pounds to tow behind a model Y what kind of range do believe I’ll get that live in Ontario it’s mostly flat land in Highway driving. I believe I currently drive between 250 and 350 km per day anyways the gas is killing me with the Tacoma I’m up around $350 a week in gas it’s getting insane I need the Tesla truck but in the meantime for the next two or three years while waiting wondering if a model Y and a small open trailer would do the trick to replace my Tacoma?? Thanks guys
Hello Ryan, good to hear from you. Based on the weight and size you are describing I think you’d still get 150miles plus of range. So I think you could count on losing half of your range to the extra weight. It would completely replace your Tacoma without issue and probably save you about $250-$300 a week. Do it!
@@noahvonborstel4231 Thank you Noah that’s awesome by the way I also have a Polaris ranger trail edition single cab I love that thing we’ve got a ton of boreal forest trails up here it’s pretty wild is there a Facebook link I can personal messages some pictures of my shit? LOL have fun and thanks for replying so quick
I thought the max towing capacity of the Model Y is 3,500 lbs. And you were towing 4,260? And if 10% of that 4,260 was the tongue weight (426 lbs) that would exceed the Model Y's 350 lb max hitch weight. Did you modifying something to be able to do this?
I haven’t done anything to modify the vehicle. It’s handled loads like that regularly during its 91k miles on the road. I’ve towed with it twice this last week with comparable loads.
770 lbs over is just a touch... Most people that I know that tow often don’t consider that much of an overload. I have trailer brake controls and load evenly so it’s not concerning to me.
I would like to tow my z19 bass boat about 280 miles miles from chicago area to madison wisconsin 135 miles charge there and go to wausau wisconsin which is another 137 miles to the next super charger do you think I would make it to both stops BOAT the boat has electric disc brakes dual axle is about 4100 lbs driving a new model y 320 mile range.19 inch tires.thanks
I think that’s a little far based on the weights you are mentioning. I think 120miles per leg might be max. I’m not sure about the wind drag, mine is extreme with the load I pull. Worst case scenario if you try is a super slow pull with flashers on. I’d say it’s a no go but I’d be super impressed if you pulled it off.
Nice video - thanks for posting. Have a boat + trailer equaling ~3,900 lb. total and would love to buy a Model Y, but need to be able to tow this load with it. I see that you prove it can be done -- but concerned about wear and tear on the vehicle. I spoke with Tesla technical advisors and they said going over 3,500 lb. can stress rear suspension, etc. Have you seen any negatives on the vehicle after towing your load? Any advice is helpful. Thank you.
I tow 4,000lbs or thereabouts regularly and have for over 10,000 miles. If you balance the load so that you don’t have too much tongue weight and make sure not to accelerate with a full load like you are in drag race then I think you’ll be fine. Also, use some kind of brake controller. I treat my Tesla Y nice but use it very hard and it has responded well.
@@noahvonborstel4231 so how would this work with a weight equalizer with anti sway. Thinking about towing a RV in 3500 + range. Would really like to be in the 5k range if possible. Figuring 55-65 mph and charging every 100 miles. Thoughts ?
@@thebossut I have towed as much as 4,800lbs but I try to keep it closer to 4,000lbs. Either way I was getting about 110 miles of range driving 60mph. No sway bar was needed but I do have a brake controller and I’m very careful to load the trailer so that it is very balanced. I don’t know if it’s a great idea to regularly tow 5,000lbs but it will probably handle that load.
@@noahvonborstel4231 thanks for the response. Do any of your setups involve a wight distribution setup. And what type of brake controller are you using. I have the MY long range, no acceleration boost, though would like to add it. Thanks
@@thebossut I use the Echo Bluetooth brake controller. It’s highly recommended, I’ve used it for a year and love the device. Acceleration boost isn’t needed. I towed before I had that option and it performed just the same in range and overall performance. I just make sure to eyeball my load very evenly and look at my car before I tie everything down. You can tell if the load is too far forward or back when you look at everything when it’s onboard. Most RV’s are well balanced and don’t need much help. My flatbed with custom loads needs more attention.
Those are the 20” induction wheels. They don’t reduce towing. There was a weird note on Tesla’s website when the tow package first came out about these wheels and a lower towing number. They revised that quickly and there is no difference is what each tire size allows for max tow rating.
@@noahvonborstel4231 Ahh, good to know. I have the same wheels and was concerned. Good to hear they revised it. Nice video. Thanks for creating it. I have a small 1000 pound utility trailer I'll use for dirt biking. Shouldn't be a big deal.
@@thekrogmanman you’re welcome. I tow that ranger with it all the time and tow a large 12,000 pound rated dump bed trailer too. It will handle serious towing without issue. I try not to overload but 1,000 extra lbs here and there doesn’t seem to bother a bit.
@@thekrogmanman you should. My Model Y with the Echo Bluetooth brake controller tows 4,500 pound with more power and control than either my 2017 Ford Expedition XL with Ecoboost or my 2005 Avalanche 2500 with a monster 494cu big block V8. I have acceleration boost and that helps but even before I had that upgrade it towed like a wild beast!
The vehicle has a 75kWh battery and I’ll use almost all of that on one trip. Most people here in the Pacific Northwest pay between 9-13.5 cents per kWh for power. That means I pay about $10.12 per charge. Superchargers cost about 24-28 cents per kilowatt hour if you use those on a trip. Same trip with my 2017 Ford Expedition Eco-Boost towing the same payload used to consume about 10 gallons of unleaded fuel at about $2.50 per gallon. So I regularly spent 25 dollars to tow what my Model Y tows for under $10.
@@noahvonborstel4231 Yeah, buy the Expedition is a much larger and more capable vehicle in terms of cargo and towing. It's also rated for the load and legal. And a longer trip would mean supercharging for the Y which would bring the energy costs per mile a lot closer to that of the Ford, and slow down the average speed dramatically, assuming there were superchargers available every 80-90 miles which is probably not the case.
Pham Nuwen it’s not illegal to load a vehicle past it’s manufactured tow ratings from what I understand. It can cause warranty issues but I’ve never seen evidence of strict enforcement from manufacturers on this front and know a lot of people that overload by substantial margins. The expedition can travel further much faster but most of my towing is within 90 miles of my final destination and I have access to lots of friends and family with 220 plugs where the power is closer to 8-9 cents per kilowatt hour. When going on super long trips this setup isn’t ideal but for the trip I make to grass valley it saves substantial amounts of money especially when I charge my car before departure from my 18.6kW solar system like I did on the day before and the morning of this trip. Also, I prefer towing this setup with my Model Y over my Expedition that we still own. The Model Y has way more power, makes the trip easily, and is more comfortable and enjoyable to drive.
@@noahvonborstel4231 I'm just saying that the Model Y vs an Expedition is not an apples to apples comparison. Yes, the Model Y can be more energy efficient towing short trips, but it's not a practical towing vehicle in general. If you some day need to go further than this trip, you're kinda screwed. A comparison between the model Y and a SUV or car of a similar size would make more sense in terms of energy efficiency and cost.
Pham Nuwen I’ve towed lots with vehicles comparably sized and rated to the model Y and they also get 9-10 mile per gallon when towing that kind of load. Namely I used a 2011 Dodge Durango with a pentastar v6 to haul the same load for about a year on that same trip. The numbers won’t change much if you make the tow vehicle a Toyota Highlander, Ford Edge, or anything else comparably sized that can tow that load.
Great video
Actually thinking about getting a Tesla that on occasion might haul my atv trailer for hunting trips. Thanks for the video! Would love to see more blaze orange and camo in Teslas!
Nice Video. Waiting to see Your bro wrestle the deer/elk in part 2 :)
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@Tatum Collin lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it by googling =)
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I knew this thing would have no trouble towing more than 3500
nice video. can you turn on autopilot(acc + auto steering wheel) with your trainler?
Thanks! You can’t use autopilot with a trailer connected. It’s disabled when it senses a trailer is plugged in. The vehicle automatically goes into trailer mode when you plug in the 7 pin adapter. Everything else works normally though.
Do you find that regen braking triggers the Curt Echo to apply the trailer brakes?
It used to when I first started towing but it seems like some kind of update might have fixed that. I use the setup all the time with my dump bed trailer and flat bed in this video. From what I can tell it doesn't trigger the echo until I touch the brakes now. I watch the screen to see as I let off the pedal if the echo is braking, it's easy to see. When I let off the pedal quickly it seems the deceleration is all regen, and it's amazingly effective. I prefer towing with my Model Y over my 2017 Ford Expedition and 2005 Chevy Avalanche 2500. It pulls more effortlessly, and the one pedal driving is killer... Additionally, the lower/more even weight distribution seems to keep my Model Y more planted.
@@noahvonborstel4231 Awesome thanks. Seems like a great option for brake controller.
@@cherrytreepermaculture756 for sure, it's been great.
Did you gain most range back on regen on the way back down the grade?
Yes, I gain lots of range on grades going down and don’t have to use any vehicle or trailer brakes. From top to bottom on a 3-6 mile grade I might gain as many miles or even double back in range by the bottom.
Hello everyone that was an excellent video have a question if people could please chime in. I currently drive a Tacoma pick up truck I sell windows it’s my small business at any given time I have 20 pieces of glass in my truck which Weighs maybe four or 500 pounds I’m thinking of getting a lightweight aluminum open trailer which may weigh 500 pounds so in total I thousand or 1200 pounds to tow behind a model Y what kind of range do believe I’ll get that live in Ontario it’s mostly flat land in Highway driving. I believe I currently drive between 250 and 350 km per day anyways the gas is killing me with the Tacoma I’m up around $350 a week in gas it’s getting insane I need the Tesla truck but in the meantime for the next two or three years while waiting wondering if a model Y and a small open trailer would do the trick to replace my Tacoma?? Thanks guys
Hello Ryan, good to hear from you. Based on the weight and size you are describing I think you’d still get 150miles plus of range. So I think you could count on losing half of your range to the extra weight. It would completely replace your Tacoma without issue and probably save you about $250-$300 a week. Do it!
@@noahvonborstel4231 Thank you Noah that’s awesome by the way I also have a Polaris ranger trail edition single cab I love that thing we’ve got a ton of boreal forest trails up here it’s pretty wild is there a Facebook link I can personal messages some pictures of my shit? LOL have fun and thanks for replying so quick
@@ryancookson5736 you’re welcome. Email if you’d like to send some pics. My email is noahvonbo@hotmail.com
I thought the max towing capacity of the Model Y is 3,500 lbs. And you were towing 4,260? And if 10% of that 4,260 was the tongue weight (426 lbs) that would exceed the Model Y's 350 lb max hitch weight. Did you modifying something to be able to do this?
I haven’t done anything to modify the vehicle. It’s handled loads like that regularly during its 91k miles on the road. I’ve towed with it twice this last week with comparable loads.
Um how is 20% over rated towing capacity. A little bit over?
770 lbs over is just a touch... Most people that I know that tow often don’t consider that much of an overload. I have trailer brake controls and load evenly so it’s not concerning to me.
Is that the stock hitch?
Brad Efune yes it is. I had it installed by Tesla right after they were available to be added. I bought the car before it was an option.
I would like to tow my z19 bass boat about 280 miles miles from chicago area to madison wisconsin 135 miles charge there and go to wausau wisconsin which is another 137 miles to the next super charger do you think I would make it to both stops BOAT the boat has electric disc brakes dual axle is about 4100 lbs driving a new model y 320 mile range.19 inch tires.thanks
I think that’s a little far based on the weights you are mentioning. I think 120miles per leg might be max. I’m not sure about the wind drag, mine is extreme with the load I pull. Worst case scenario if you try is a super slow pull with flashers on. I’d say it’s a no go but I’d be super impressed if you pulled it off.
Nice video - thanks for posting. Have a boat + trailer equaling ~3,900 lb. total and would love to buy a Model Y, but need to be able to tow this load with it. I see that you prove it can be done -- but concerned about wear and tear on the vehicle. I spoke with Tesla technical advisors and they said going over 3,500 lb. can stress rear suspension, etc. Have you seen any negatives on the vehicle after towing your load? Any advice is helpful. Thank you.
I tow 4,000lbs or thereabouts regularly and have for over 10,000 miles. If you balance the load so that you don’t have too much tongue weight and make sure not to accelerate with a full load like you are in drag race then I think you’ll be fine. Also, use some kind of brake controller. I treat my Tesla Y nice but use it very hard and it has responded well.
@@noahvonborstel4231 so how would this work with a weight equalizer with anti sway. Thinking about towing a RV in 3500 + range. Would really like to be in the 5k range if possible. Figuring 55-65 mph and charging every 100 miles. Thoughts ?
@@thebossut I have towed as much as 4,800lbs but I try to keep it closer to 4,000lbs. Either way I was getting about 110 miles of range driving 60mph. No sway bar was needed but I do have a brake controller and I’m very careful to load the trailer so that it is very balanced. I don’t know if it’s a great idea to regularly tow 5,000lbs but it will probably handle that load.
@@noahvonborstel4231 thanks for the response. Do any of your setups involve a wight distribution setup. And what type of brake controller are you using. I have the MY long range, no acceleration boost, though would like to add it.
Thanks
@@thebossut I use the Echo Bluetooth brake controller. It’s highly recommended, I’ve used it for a year and love the device. Acceleration boost isn’t needed. I towed before I had that option and it performed just the same in range and overall performance. I just make sure to eyeball my load very evenly and look at my car before I tie everything down. You can tell if the load is too far forward or back when you look at everything when it’s onboard. Most RV’s are well balanced and don’t need much help. My flatbed with custom loads needs more attention.
Are those the 20" induction wheels? Doesn't that reduce the towing capacity down?
Those are the 20” induction wheels. They don’t reduce towing. There was a weird note on Tesla’s website when the tow package first came out about these wheels and a lower towing number. They revised that quickly and there is no difference is what each tire size allows for max tow rating.
@@noahvonborstel4231 Ahh, good to know. I have the same wheels and was concerned. Good to hear they revised it. Nice video. Thanks for creating it. I have a small 1000 pound utility trailer I'll use for dirt biking. Shouldn't be a big deal.
@@thekrogmanman you’re welcome. I tow that ranger with it all the time and tow a large 12,000 pound rated dump bed trailer too. It will handle serious towing without issue. I try not to overload but 1,000 extra lbs here and there doesn’t seem to bother a bit.
@@noahvonborstel4231 That's good to know too. I have a 3500 pound boat that I wasn't planning on ever towing with it but I guess I could.
@@thekrogmanman you should. My Model Y with the Echo Bluetooth brake controller tows 4,500 pound with more power and control than either my 2017 Ford Expedition XL with Ecoboost or my 2005 Avalanche 2500 with a monster 494cu big block V8. I have acceleration boost and that helps but even before I had that upgrade it towed like a wild beast!
What would be the approximate cost of the power consumption done and comparison to gas consumption?
The vehicle has a 75kWh battery and I’ll use almost all of that on one trip. Most people here in the Pacific Northwest pay between 9-13.5 cents per kWh for power. That means I pay about $10.12 per charge. Superchargers cost about 24-28 cents per kilowatt hour if you use those on a trip. Same trip with my 2017 Ford Expedition Eco-Boost towing the same payload used to consume about 10 gallons of unleaded fuel at about $2.50 per gallon. So I regularly spent 25 dollars to tow what my Model Y tows for under $10.
@@noahvonborstel4231 Yeah, buy the Expedition is a much larger and more capable vehicle in terms of cargo and towing. It's also rated for the load and legal. And a longer trip would mean supercharging for the Y which would bring the energy costs per mile a lot closer to that of the Ford, and slow down the average speed dramatically, assuming there were superchargers available every 80-90 miles which is probably not the case.
Pham Nuwen it’s not illegal to load a vehicle past it’s manufactured tow ratings from what I understand. It can cause warranty issues but I’ve never seen evidence of strict enforcement from manufacturers on this front and know a lot of people that overload by substantial margins. The expedition can travel further much faster but most of my towing is within 90 miles of my final destination and I have access to lots of friends and family with 220 plugs where the power is closer to 8-9 cents per kilowatt hour. When going on super long trips this setup isn’t ideal but for the trip I make to grass valley it saves substantial amounts of money especially when I charge my car before departure from my 18.6kW solar system like I did on the day before and the morning of this trip. Also, I prefer towing this setup with my Model Y over my Expedition that we still own. The Model Y has way more power, makes the trip easily, and is more comfortable and enjoyable to drive.
@@noahvonborstel4231 I'm just saying that the Model Y vs an Expedition is not an apples to apples comparison.
Yes, the Model Y can be more energy efficient towing short trips, but it's not a practical towing vehicle in general. If you some day need to go further than this trip, you're kinda screwed.
A comparison between the model Y and a SUV or car of a similar size would make more sense in terms of energy efficiency and cost.
Pham Nuwen I’ve towed lots with vehicles comparably sized and rated to the model Y and they also get 9-10 mile per gallon when towing that kind of load. Namely I used a 2011 Dodge Durango with a pentastar v6 to haul the same load for about a year on that same trip. The numbers won’t change much if you make the tow vehicle a Toyota Highlander, Ford Edge, or anything else comparably sized that can tow that load.
You ever measured your tongue weight ?
No, I just make sure to balance really well and make sure it’s 50/50. I bet its 350-450lbs when maxed out.
enjoy :))