Nobody on the planet remembers Beastly
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- BEST. EMBRACE. THE SUCK.
Best story for a moody Twilight-era young adult adaptation:
Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater - / jennynicholson
ET but the lead is a girl and ET is hot - / jennyenicholson
The Scarecrow Walks At Midnight but the scarecrow is hot - / spider_jewel
The Wizard of Oz but the scarecrow is hot - / spiderjewel
Antz - / jennynicholsonvids
Was he MEANT to be Gaston was that why his Beast-self was named Hunter? What was even going on there? Should I read the book? - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It’s time women reclaim Frankenskank
how could you say something so controversial yet so brave
Hailey C I think they stole this plot from Monty Pythons Flying Circus.
Is that anything like Frankenhooker?
Whatever you say Bryce Dallas Howard.
That line annoyed me so much. Why not Skankenstein?
Kyle: *is rude and sexist*
*Lindy will not remember that*
Lindy did remember that. You just didn't remember her remembering
Mme. Veronica if only this film was memorable
Kyle: no redeemable qualities whatsoever and doesn't even speak to her for several years
Lindy: I can fix him
Kyle: _is rude, sexist, and racist_
Lindy: Personally, I respected that he called things out as he saw them.
@@TheNumnutRandomnessLindy was written by and for powerful, conservative, white men. (Movie version; comments indicate she's not that foolish in the books.)
Kyle could have just went to a goth club and found a girl.
hahaha
Imagine how that goth girl would feel after he comes back as this pretty white boy.
A f*cking turn off for her.
Massive Degenerate aka Certified Human Waste
Right?! When I saw the thumbnail I thought the picture was of that hot guy with the skull tattoo on him (he's in a few things, but a Gaga video gave him came I think). I have friends that have paid to have scarification designs! Lol
Chiffon Cake and Tea - Goths don't like white guys?.. Ok then.
I can't imagine how difficult it could've been to a tall, ripped son of a millionaire covered in tattoos to find someone
Sometimes you don't need to have empathy, you just need compassion
@@fridaherbst719 no
@@fridaherbst719 those are the same thing
@@skycr7059 compassion: pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others. Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
No, not the same thing. Compassion is more akin to being worried for someone, while empathy is understanding how that person feels. @Frida Herbert is saying even if you can’t imagine it, you can still feel sorry for that person.
Wasn't this the same plot used in Disney Star Wars?
Man I love this movie. The fact that the witch was like “you bullied me… I’m going to literally teach you a lesson, help improve your life and the life of this other girl, and also help your employees get green cards and miracle cures” like that’s so much more nice than she needed to be
Which makes you wonder why the witch doesn't use her magic to help people. She can cure incurable blindness and influence US Immigration Officials yet she wastes her time defacing some pretty boy's posters.
I got a feeling as a kid that the witch was "mean but in a kind way" but I couldn't explain it back then. Anyway, best character.
the way he treated her she should've cast like, wizard explosion spell or something on him
@@biggestastiestAfter you've exploded your 5th bully you take a long hard look at yourself and start to realise that exploding people is at least comparable to bullying from a moral stand point.
Well, Witches aren’t inherently evil. In fact, a lot of their beliefs surround doing little to no harm to others and asking for permission, before taking from the earth and being respectful of boundaries. So, for her to cast baneful magic to simply teach him a lesson, and to decide that a mother and someone disabled doesn’t deserve to suffer, isn’t unbelievable.
imagine being the facebook employee who looks through the reasons why people deactivate their accounts and seeing the words "i am no more"
Are you morally obligated to contact someone if you see that? Like damn, dude.
o my god
"Oh look, another drama queen. You'll be back, we both know it."
I'm sure they read MUCH worse than that every day.
I have a FB friend who posts saying "Goodbye" or "I love you all I'm sorry" and then ghosts for about 45 min waiting for everyone to freak out about her before posting about how everything is okay and better now.
If I was that FB employee who saw "I am no more", that's what I would think of.
"frankenskank?" come on, skankenstein was *right there*
oh my god that's so much better
Sure, but not so easy to say
@@fyrefrost1898 I'm suddenly imagining Kyle and NPH doing the Cyril/Archer thing.
"Come on, listen to me! You owe me one! After I gave you 'skankenstein'."
"That *is* better..."
@@jordanWAH skank-en-stein
How is that hard?
@@importantstuf8870 sorry, i don't hear anything
"who's gonna view you as a potential love interest if you're beast?" im waiting for a modern beauty and the beast adaptation where belle is a furry and wants the beast to stay that way
Belle 🤝 Shang
Being disappointed when their love interest transforms.
I remember a comic I saw somewhere of a genderbent version of Beauty and the Beast, with female Beast explaining the whole rose thing, with the next panel being male Beauty furiously shaking the glass jar to get the petals to fall.
And honestly, respect. Dude knows what he's into.
That would be a great opportunity for Beauty to learn that even though she wants Beast to stay as he is, he’s miserable that way and she learns to value his happiness over her own and breaks the curse as an act of sacrifice for him
@@LynetteTheMadScientist i suppose that is one good ending that could come out of it, but most people look for relatability, we can't defeat the evil curse and turn into beautiful people, our disabilities and disorders wont magically disappear, and we have problems finding love because of those things. We learn to live in bodies other people seem to hate, we learn to live by ourselves, while yearning for the touch or warm words of another
And that's why people love Shrek, aside from its meme quality, its a sweet story about people who accepted their looks, their faults and their disorders/disabilities and found love with that acceptance. Belle has fallen in love with this monster, and he finally didn't have a need to change. He found good in himself the way he is
And the audience is happy, because yeah that's a great message - in Polish we have a saying "każda potwora znajdzie swojego amatora" which means "every monster will find their admirer"
We want that, that message of hope, that maybe we have out beastly qualities but there are people who will not only look past them, but will actually like them
And then Beast turns to Adam
And the magic is gone
Conventionally attractive people win again
So while your idea is cute and definitely would find its very great uses, people never bring it up in case of the beast cause its far from reality. People want Beast to remain Beastly cause we all feel like monsters. And we dont have a chance to change it. We prefer him a monster so we can tell ourselves that we can have this too. Cause there is no other way and magical cure to help us.
And even if we're born beautiful but something bad happens to change us into monsters - again, theres no cure. And its unhealthy to think there is one and focus your life on it. We dont have a magical rose. Again, we can only hope that there is someone out there who will love our monstrous appearance. That's why Beast, should stay a Beast. Cause for us there is no way out and we want a little hope
@@croissant2882 Yes its true that people we fall in love with can be physically or mentally misshapen and that those things will likely never change. But that's not what the commenter is talking about. This commenter thinks Beast should stay beastly because she has a fetish for beastliness. Which is really selfish and shortsighted when your partner does not like their beastliness. It would be like a man marrying a woman with no legs and then when she has an opportunity to get legs he says "no haha stay legless I love that about you :)"
I just read the book this is based on and I’m so sad. If they’d actually followed the book we literally could’ve had a kick line of Mary-Kate Olsen rockettes dancing in elf costumes in the middle of the night, with Lindy watching and thinking she’s hallucinating. That’s what they took from us.
That sounds like an absolute fever dream
I. Need. Context. Now.
@@tinymxnticore You're in luck; I hear there's a whole book of the context!
Imagine falling in love with a grisly brooding goth man and he turns into a blonde, blue eyed pretty boy
a fuckin downgrade for sure
i'd be so angry
You’d have to ask to speak to the manager or just put your whole man in rice
Went from Ryan Reynolds’ Deadpool to fricking Logan Paul. *DISGUSTANG*
I couldn't stand that hair that he had in the beginning of the movie. He was better off bald.
In the book, he joined a chat room where he spoke with other teenagers that were afflicted with fairy tale curses 😂
This should be in the movie and leave the door open for a cinematic universe, like the books.
@@desrochessimon3044 I can just imagine sleeping beauty sleep typing.
Gold
this book has some interesting lore to it
The book was honestly better😭😭✋🏿
In the book, he *did* actually get turned into a beast. He's described as looking like Chewbacca.
In the movie, he looks like El Diablo from Suicide Squad.
he is so lucky she wasn't a furry or that relationship would have ended the moment he got un-transformed.
what was the book called
@@emmadoesartonline The book was still called Beastly.
i guess the vfx for it would've been to much of an effort
@@teeth_denier There's a 1946 Beauty and the Beast movie where he was still a hairy dude. A movie from the 2010s doesn't really have an excuse.
"Sloane and the Bimbots" is unironically an amazing band name
You know it's a YA movie when the "beast" is the male equivalent of the pretty girl wearing glasses being "ugly".
He's All That
And of course he must get "someone" to tell him "I love you" and the person he convinces to do this is the cutest girl in school.
A friend of mine thought he looked better as the beast. I think most hard rock fans would agree with her.
At least it was better than that awful CW Beast show where he was just a straight up hot dude with a scar.
Seriously the entire reason the fairy tale is so enduring is that audiences fall in love with the Beast no matter how ugly he is. Teenage girls, the demographic this is trying to reach, absolutely squee over healing the sad broody ugly man with their love. Congrats, writers, you've somehow managed to be even more shallow than a teenage girl.
@@nomisunrider6472 you sound like you hold personal resentment against teenage girls it's just a random cheesy movie like who cares honestly boys have equally shallow and sexist movies why is it always the girls y'all hate on
Imagine an emo 14 year old with self esteem issues going to therapy, and her third session is just watching Beastly with her therapist. I was that 14 year old.
Uhhhhhhhhhhh
I’m so sorry
why on Earth? xDD
So did watching the movie help? 😂
Was it the therapist's idea 💡?
holy shit ive watched this video so many times and only *just now* am i realizing that kyle's beast form has "embrace" and "suck" written on each of his eyebrows. they were so absurdly confident in that catchphrase that they literally wrote it on their protagonist's face
It’s giving “damaged” on Jared Leto Joker
They really embraced it.
I know I’m late to the Green Party party on this one, but I actually was a fan of the book years ago. It’s been a long time, but here’s a few fun things I remember from the book, and don’t think I’ve seen anyone else say in the comments:
• Lindy is basically forced to volunteer at the dance because she’s on a scholarship.
• Kyle is straight up a beast. Like, with fur, and claws, which actually prevents him from going out in public but I guess they wanted him to be damaged but still sexy in the movies?
• Since he can’t go out, Kendra, the witch, gives him a magic mirror, which he uses to look at the world and his old friends.
• Lindy’s dad breaks into the house and when Kyle catches him, offers her up in exchange for him not called the police or eating him.
• It’s strongly implied that, while Lindy had a crush on him because he was popular and handsome, if she’d really known him she would not have liked him.
• The movie’s alternate ending is actually the ending of the book, since there is no Machu Pichu to act as their ticking time bomb in the book.
• Also at the end it’s revealed that Zola was actually the witch the whole time. She was placed in his house as a punishment for going rogue, and she hated him so much she couldn’t help setting him up to get cursed. By wishing for Zola to be reunited with her family, she’s released from her punishment.
I remember really enjoying the book, and it seems like it was a lot less clumsy than the movie.
Edit: I can’t believe I forgot. Kyle is part of like…an online support group for people that have been turned into monsters/non-human creatures. The little mermaid is in this group.
NO WAY THEY HAVE A GROUP LIKE is it really that common to be cursed by a witch? 💀
Wild from start to finish
I’ve also read the book! It’s actually part of a series that follows the witch- Kendra- through other fairytales, so yes, I guess there are
Yea I loved the book more than the movie lol
Also IIRC in the book Kyle has 2 years to find love, and the only reason Kendra gives him that chance is because he was kind to Linda for a moment by giving her the rose corsage that his gf didn't want. The book is also kinda darker in some aspects but I guess they had to tone it down some
Kyle becoming "beautiful" again is blatant gothphobia and I wont stand for it
Even though goths make the invention of color photography pointless, I for one am not afraid 😘
Indeed. XD
@@TheNefastor The Goths last notable event was sacking Rome in 410AD. That was a long time before color photography.
@Nina Shroomsburgh You seem to misunderstand the term. The architectural style is Gothic but the Germanic cultural group were the Goths. Unless you are referring to a specific kingdom as in the Ostrogothic or Visigothic kingdoms.
This is all pedantry anyway as it was a joke. A historically accurate one.
I do resent nekad2000
for ignoring the historical importance of the Visigothic kingdom in showing goths were still relevant even after they became 'mainstream' though.
can't tell if this is serious or not and at this point i'm too scared to ask
In the book he actually turned into a beast. I don't know why he's turned into a hot topic employee
Cyrilcynder best way to put it into words !
Audience are a bunch of pussies if they think they can’t be horny for an actual monster
The book kind of described it as scars though... iirc
as someone who used to work at hot topic I'm streaming!! 😂😂💀
Omg
What really murders me is that they were SO CLOSE with the mooning-over-the-picture thing. All she needed to say was "He was really handsome, but I was turned off by how he treated people" and that would have worked GREAT, and yet.
okay so why didn’t they make the witch like the weird esoteric/witchy hippie girl? like the ones obsessed with crystals, astrology and tarot??? she could have been a normal teen that is bullied by kyle bc she’s “weird” and “not beautiful” and then theres a cut scene where she goes home and puts this curse on him like still would have been weird but works better for this “grim modern retelling” of the story than like a random woods witch
The kinds of things Hollywood executives think is a curse: having a badass scar, living in a house paid for by your rich father, and being disabled.
Being disabled can have its problems obviously but that whole life situation anyway sounds sweet. Just gimme a decent PC and I'm set.
I am a Unicorn it can have it’s problems, but most people with disabilities grow to appreciate their disability as a part of who they are.
I am a Unicorn Yeah, most of the bad parts of being disabled, ironically, is able people acting like you can’t have a fulfilling independent life (and therefore refusing accommodations.)
The other part is if your disability comes with pain or illness.
Honestly, if public spaces were accesible and I could access reasonably priced and decent healthcare, I wouldn’t care about my disability-neither would most, if not all of my disabled friends.
@@soldiaz7261 Seconded.
@@lindscutie0756 my mums disabled, she has FND, and it literally just disturbs her entire life. I don't think theres anything wrong with seeing a disability as a curse
My fiancé and I watched Beastly after seeing your essay, and I noticed Kyle/Hunter's eyebrows; they have Arabic letters on them. As an Arab, I was having a difficult time avoiding that. I was also having a difficult time reading it, until I noticed his left eyebrow; it looked liked "embrace", and then I looked at the right eyebrow again. It turns out the eyebrows were saying "Embrace" and "Suck" in ENGLISH but with ARABIC LETTERS THAT LOOK LIKE THEIR ENGLISH SCRIPTURE EQUIVALENT. We completely lost our minds.
This would be the most unintentionally hilarious use of the Arabic language in cinema until Arrival couldn't get Arabic words written properly in news footage while the central topic of the film was ABOUT A LANGUAGE
dialF4flipit a surprisingly neat detail, but that’s about it
Arrival was trying to portray Pakistan, right? Wasn't that Urdu?
@@abdullahsiddiqui788 it might have been, i haven't seen the film in over a year. Arabic, Farsi and Urdu have the same scripture more or less, so that's where my mixup must've came from, and in all forms the lettering has to be linked, like cursive in the latin alphabet
three minutes in, on his posters ‘the witch’ wrote _don’t embrace this suck!_ which could’ve had some significance, but it’s still really funny. lmao.
Embrace *s u c c*
I remember this because Penny Arcade, of all things, did a comic of it. The punchline was: "I love you, despite how hot and covered in tattoos you are."
I read the book and liked it much better than the movie, and it's because it leaned into the goofiness hard. There's an online support group for victims of magic spells and all of the other people in the group are also stand ins for modern adaptations of fairy tales. The Little Mermaid is in the group, and so is the Frog Prince and it's a running gag that he can't type well with his little amphibian hands. Also, in the book, he's an actual beast. Not just a tatted up, pierced, bald dude. Oh, also Zola and the witch are revealed to be the same person at the end. That's why the witch is always around Kyle whenever he looks for her.
This description actually makes me want to read it
omg she was green screened at the green party i cant
HAha never noticed it though when I first saw it
Green screen party party
@@harrylane4 party party party party
@@sweetpeabee4983 party party party party party
@@vgb777 party party party party party party
"daddy don't got"
i can just imagine the thicc and giant cloud in the writters room
It's beyond comprehensible how the lines in the movie are significantly more ridiculous than Jenny's remarks - even though this has a casual "BeastZoned" burn in it.
That look the housekeeper gives right after is the most meme-able thing I've ever seen.
Let me go to your lake cottage d a d d y
@@kylefrank638 indeed. The female counterpart to the blinking white guy meme lolol
Neil's character is so ableist in a way that only the 2000's could be.
Ah good times
It's kinda weird because when an actor with functioning eyesight says it it feels ableist and upsetting but if an actual fully blind person told me they felt like it was an awful curse that disrupted their entire life I'd be like "yeah, that's a bad time".
this movie came out in 2011
@@weneedaladder8384 that's because you know it's their lived experience and they get to feel however they want to feel about it. ofc some blind people are fine with their blindness and others think it's a curse
@jordynsimmons1107 You know that the ideals of a whole decade don't vanish overnight on January 1st of the next decade, right? 2011 is two years out from the 00s.
"Nice, Kyle, I'm sure your middle-aged Jamaican nanny really appreciated that zinger."
if someone doesn’t, at one point in my life, refer to me as a “self-mutilated tatted frankenskank” then what’s even the point
You said it self-mutilated tatted frankenskank
A modern beauty and beast adaptation, but he doesn't turn into literal beast. Instead he is cursed to be trapped in a fursuit, with anime eyes and everything. He can never take the fursuit off until someone falls in love with him.
Yeah that's just costume transformation, I saw some of these on e621.
@@NIHIL_EGO owo
But there are so many furries these days the story would be two seconds long
It would have cost you nothing to not say that
@@Fanimati0n but it cost us everything to hear it
My favorite thing about bad movies:
Hiring a sighted actor to play a blind character and said actor attempts to "act blind" by Simply Not Looking at anything they're doing and picking a random point in the room to stare at instead
I thought it was so weird she didnt mention how NPH does the absolute worst blind acting Ive ever seen in my life. That seems like it should have come up in the audition, and yet here he is
That may be crappy blind acting but it is INCREDIBLE ADHD acting.
Lol best blind acting Ive seen has been friend actual blind people and they just act like regular people just blind lol like wtf why do non blind people have to be so extra playing blind people. Just realized that in recent years with more blind and deaf actors just existing in RV shows and movies
@@DeeRio9546 there is something to be said about reminding the audience he has a disability. Like it would be kinda weird to have a paralyzed character and then only film scenes where everyone is always sitting down. Kinda defeats the purpose of the character being blind if they aren't immediately identifiable as blind. But this does the opposite, it just reminds you he ISNT blind and everything he does and says takes a back burner to his awful acting
EDIT: I should clarify, in this case his blindness is effectively his entire back story and plot. There's nothing wrong with having a character who is disabled and isn't defined by their disability.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 I mean but remind the character someone is deaf is by them using sign language. Remind the audience a character is blind could be by them having a walking stick. To exaggerate and so wacky things to show this makes it seem like blind and deaf people are only defined by their disabilities and they arent. If you like how it's portrayed thats fine but in my opinion it's more refreshing to see media where it's not seen as if disabilities hold you back or that they are you're entire personality trait. There's more to people then how they are born and their circumstances
I love how they removed the Prince being an orphan, and the witch phrased the curse so that _any_ love could count.
Ergo, his dad could have loved him, which is like the bare minimum for a parent, and the dad doesn't love him enough to break the curse.
Like, youch.
And it's just so normalized for Kyle that apparently he's not even phased by literal proof his dad doesn't love him.
Geez.
Yeah actually having a horrible misfortune befall you is when you might expect to hear "I love you" most from a parent, even one who wouldn't otherwise say it out loud. Kyle doesn't think for even a second that his father might express that even once. How awful.
He was never an orphan? His dad is in the book.
@@DivinityFallen …the Prince… in every version of Beauty and the Beast… is an orphan. Either straight up orphaned or outlived his parents as a beast.
Idk and idc what the difference is between the book and the movie, but if his dad is alive in the book, *then my point still stands.*
@@DivinityFallen "They" being the story in concept, not the movie in particular
This was also the twist of the curse in "Penelope"... But executed way better because the actors actually know what was going on.
when he typed "I am no more" as the reason he was deleting his Facebook i felt a part of my soul leave my body
.. as if you were... no more?
washedblue This is amazing, thank you so much
if i ever delete my facebook im going to d othis
if you delete your Facebook you die in real life
what's actually hilarious is that deactivating facebook is not the same thing as deleting it. they've been two totally discrete options as far back as 2010
The moral of the story?
Disrespect an Olsen and you become Jared Letto's Joker.
There are worse fates. I guess.
*Thanos getting snapped at the end of Endgame*: Well it could have been worse I suppose...
@Tiger Tamer LOL actually toe is "orteil" in French. Leto sounds more like "l'étaux", meaning a vice (the tool) but I can't find a good joker joke involving a vice.
This makes me terrified of what she’s gonna do in Wandavision
An Olsen?
But there’s only one. She’s just moving back and forth really fast
11:41 "Daddy don't got" I can't describe the way I wheezed at this line I'm crying actual tears right now fjshhsjsjsjsj
If Kyle just joined a punk band he'd fit right in. He looks like he's got a bunch of body mods and tattoos. Everyone would love it.
Please never stop covering bad, obscure media.
A black woman and a disabled person as stand ins for literal objects . . . uh . . . that's fine I guess
Miri Libra or it can be a society commentary how people in service jobs are treated. To be an appliance, work but not heard.
@@MADEbySOUL giving the movie too much credit. they ran out of that deep commentary budget at "blue eyed pretty boy turned ugly gothman learns unrealistic beauty standards the hard way".
To be fair, they're not objects in the original. They're cursed people.
@@Shad0wmoses : "ugly"
As a tattooed person with distinct facial piercings myself, if I saw Kyle walking down the street in his Beastly form, I'd ask what his prices were. Because that happens to me from time to time
I can defend exactly one element of this plot: He couldn't randomly grab two tickets on the fly because it takes over a year of waitlisting to get to see Machu Picchu. The school trip was probably planned / reserved as a group in advance.
I thought she said the tickets were for the Green Party party.
@@gkarenko9593 I was talking about later in the video when Jenny wondered if it would have been better for him to get tickets for both of them to go instead of her going without him. In fact the difficulty of planning a visit there is more than enough explanation for her to still go.
"best embrace the suck"
im shaking what does this mean
Maybe you're supposed to read it backwards:
*SUCK THE EMBRACE BEST*
It basically means, "accept that life sucks, get used to it and move on."
The suck is military slang for shitty life events. Or bootcamp.
'embrace the suck' is military slang for 'just get over and used to the shit'
Embrace the succ
In addition to Jenny's harsh criticism of this beastly bad movie, the most glaringly obvious knock on this movie is that no one wore anything green to the Green Party's party.
Fuzzy Stripetail
Ironically Green Party members look just like Beastly.
But they did green screen the witch into the Green Party.
I'm dyinggg just when I thought there could be no more criticism... one can play game picking this movie apart.
That would make it difficult to greenscreen in the witch, which they apparently had to do for some reason.
That would make it the Green Party's Green Party, and i guess they thought it would just make it wayy too confusing
I loved the book growing up because of how "tounge-in-cheek" it was especially with the fairy tale group chat it had randomly throughout, and I was legit SHOCKED about how straightforward they played the whole movie. Also it's worth noting that he was an actual beast in the book, not just whatever he is, and the alternate ending was the actual ending of the film.
i like that they try to set up lindy as being interested in gardening because kyle builds her a greenhouse and they keep saying how much she loves roses, but gardening isn't even listed in her interests on facebook
The movie keeps trying to tell me that Mary-Kate is supposed to be ugly, but I am absolutely into that witch look she's got going on.
This comment is the kind of mood I want to bring into 2019.
frankensteinteen become the monster
She has no eyebrows and it distresses me.
evyrgreen is that a mbmbam tease
she just needs eyebrows and then she'd look fine,
IRL Kyle would just become a super-popular instagram model with his new unique look
I'm dead that's factssssss
I like this positivity, LMAO.
I mean, dude looks just like Logan Paul, straight up.
With how thirsty some people can be on the internet he would find true love in like five minutes if he just put a selfie on Instagram and waited for a response
12:28
BEASTZONED.
Thank you for this gift. I will use it responsibly.
It’s a full on reference to Lindsey Elis’ Stockholm Syndrome video for Beauty and the Beast🤣
Have u used it yet
I have still, in 5 years, never been able to figure out what Best Embrace The Suck is even supposed to mean
I feel like this would have been even better if "Lindy" was played by Ashley Olsen and nobody ever acknowledged that they look exactly the same.
Tobasco da Gama headcannon accepted
It’s weird that Mary-Kate continued to act more often than Ashley.
Interesting fact, they're actually fraternal twins, its more believable after seeing their younger sister Elizabeth, who kinda looks like the missing triplet.
@@brianaguilar8283 not really, I'm pretty sure Mary-Kate went on record saying she'll never act again. That was some years ago so maybe she's changed her mind but...
Adiaha Alexander that’s not what I meant. Ashley retired in 2006 while Mary-Kate retired in 2011.
**deactivates account**
Please tell us why
*I am no more*
My favorite moment in the movie, and possibly in all of film as a medium.
Is that really all he types? Not "I am no more... than a selfish asshole" or at least "I am no more beautiful?" or something?
Most hilarious thing I've ever seen XD
I deadass tried to click on "I am no more" because my brain mistook it for "Read More" somehow
@@deffdefying4803 same
I know it's problematic lol but I do like the bit about the green card. My parents, my spouse, and lots of my friends are immigrants. Getting them is pretty miraculous. It's not mentioned often enough in US media how hard it is being a resident with family abroad. It's corny, and I know Zola is a stereotype, but seeing how happy she was looking at the photo of her son's green card moved me
I do think, too, the part where they're all having dinner and he asks the tutor if he can help pay for an operation is to show that he hasn't grown as a person yet.
He asks Lumier (I can't remember the tutors name, lol) is he can help and after the conversation Zola looks crushed that Kyle just ignores her because his piles of money and social standing could totally help her get that. But because it's not a "physical beauty" problem he doesn't think to ask.
@@DestinyKiller Yeah, I agree that it was intentional & showed how he's still obsessed with looks. It's not a great movie but I'm glad Jenny is analyzing it so we can all learn how to tell better stories. I'm grateful for her service 🤣
I think the issue with Zola is less about her specific need for a green card, which is surprisingly common in the movies I've watched tbh (ex: Nanny which we watched recently). But the blatant disrespect towards her from Kyle, which can be excused because character, but also she's just the guiding minority character with an instructor heavy accent. The green card stuff resonates with me too personally, coming from a family who's literally half Jamaican lol, and it's nice to see mentioned here and there. I stand with you there fwiw.
Ah yes, I remember my highschool experience. Who can forget Kyle, Trisha, Johnny, Mildred of the gloomy pastures, or Jessica?
facebook: why are you deleting your account?
this edgelord: i am no m o r e
I'm sure it's nowhere near the weirdest thing people have typed in there
Edge lord the movie
“Dad, if you say you love me, I’ll look normal again”
“What? uh.. i love you i guess”
**END OF MOVIE**
But it's not enough. He has to love him in return.
To bad he didn't have a mother because he has a face only a mother can love
How about, hey homeless guy, I'll give you $10 if you say you love me.
@@nejdalej his girlfriend cheated on him with his bestfriend and apparently both doesn't actually like him that much lol
That reminds me of the twist in Penelope.
I think it's funny that he also doesn't even look that bad, nothing about his physique changed and his face just kind of looks like someone who's midway into a body mod addiction. His bones structure is also intact in his face so he basically just has a scar, some weird tattoos, metal stuff, and a shaved head. Like, there are people that elect to do much worse to themselves and probably still have otherwise perfectly normal lives. There's no one on earth that can tell me this dude would have been *that* much worse off if he had to stay that way forever.
Especially since his family seems to be pretty rich, he most likely wouldn't have needed to get a job where that might be a hindrance
I feel like a better ending is if Kyle changes back, and then thinks he's uglier because it reminds him of how ugly he used to be on the inside. It would have to happen sooner, so that he can take the time to get convinced that how he looks doesn't define who he is -- looking like Kyle, the asshole, doesn't define him any more than looking "Beastly" did.
If this was from belle’s perspective it would basically be a wattpad story
it is a wattpad story.
Nah it would need to swap randomly between the two pov's
The author made a version told from Lindy's point of view, combined with the original book.
Even from his perspective it feels like a Wattpad story
eeltap or a weird jeff the killer fanfic
The Witch wasn't actually trying to curse him. She just wanted him to appreciate punk music.
mood though
Me as a witch 😂
I remember beastly bc my local shopping mall had a gigantic wall dedicated to an ad for this film which was inexplicably around for like. several years.
Can we talk about how NPH's character is blind and yet always makes eye contact with whoever he is speaking to? So considerate!
I mean if you’re blind you can hear much better so you’ll be able to tell where the sound is coming from and could look at the direction not that there’s much reason to unless maybe you’re partially blind and not full black out
@@kyatonic1 the vast majority of blind people are not “full black out” blind, so that makes sense
@@lithiumkid yeah but they would still find difficulty with eye contact I would imagine
@@kyatonic1 he had special, fully opaque contact lenses in while filming this role so that he couldn’t see at all but he was still able to make pretty accurate eye contact. so i guess it’s probably doable for some people as long as their hearing & spatial awareness aren’t compromised. hell, some blind people are good enough at faking eye contact that others don’t realize they’re blind & don’t believe it even once they’re told.
@@lithiumkid I guess I learned today
The movie is trash. It has virtually nothing in common with the book.
The book was written by Alex Flinn, a lawyer who worked with teen offenders, so (in nearly all of her books) she wrote about teenagers who are genuinely terrible but unlearn the toxic behavior and thought patterns because they gain trusted adults and get away from the abusive or neglectful adults in their life.
Kyle is turned into a Disney style beast. He never goes outside because he doesn't want anyone to see him or to end up in the Enquirer or whatever.
He gives a flower to Lindy at the beginning because his gf was angry he didn't get her an orchid. Lindy is not Vanessa Hudgens... She is short with frizzy red hair, very crooked teeth, and wears almost solely musical merch because she wants to be a theater kid but is too shy and doesn't have time. She volunteers as much as she can in addition to getting As in school because she wants to go to college to escape her current situation.
Her dad does break into Kyle's house in the book and when caught immediately and without prompting offers his teenage daughter in exchange for the security tape. Her dad is shown to be nothing but a pile of garbage, but Lindy still feels like she needs to take care of him. Part of her arc is learning how to have fun and be young.
The blind tutor thing is explained because his dad specifically wants no one to tell the press about his son. He gives Kyle specific instructions that he should not tell the tutor about his condition. Kyle immediately telling him is a huge FU to his dad in the book, and the tutor doesn't fully believe him, getting pissed at first thinking he was trying to prank the blind guy. He also acts like a normal blind guy in the book. He isn't bitter. He lives a fairly fulfilling life, he was just offered an obscene amount of money and free room and board in a super nice apartment in exchange for teaching 1 teenager - then 2 teenagers.
The witch is originally depicted as just a goth high school girl who Kyle and his friends regularly bully because she draws pentagrams on everything, has acne, and is fat.
I kinda... wanna read it now? possibly?
@@goldenknox Its actual well written. It's not a masterpiece of fiction or anything like that, but on the occasion I have the pull to read it in the Spring...
Actually the witch is an actual witch- in alex flynns books, kendra(the witch's real name) is a common denominator in her disney story retellings. It mentions in one of the "series" about how her family died of the plague In the 1600's (or whenever it was) and about how she travels around from high school to highs school around the states helping teenagers 😸~ with a Disney story undertone😳😳 anyways sorry if you already know this I just like explaining it😭😭
@@goldenknox it's actually good 🤩🤩💅🏿
@@fluerqueen8218 Oops, you're right! It's just been a long time since I read the books, lol 😅 I must have gotten confused
seriously just think you fall in love with the best tattooed goth boy to ever existed (not to mention he's edgy and brooding and understands all of your #deep problems) and then he ends up being a _prep_
akin to finding out that the real author of My Immortal went to a preppy boarding school in Connecticut
Lolol
@@myettechase Wait holy shit *we actually figured out who wrote My Immortal* when did that happen?"
@@alfalldoot6715 we didnt
@@alfalldoot6715 some detectives on reddit were able to trace the IP address of her email to an elite CT boarding school, we don’t know her exact identity but we know where she was emailing from!
"Daddy don't got" - Kyle Kingson, 2011
The problem with modernizing Beauty and the Beast is that the original story was written to make teenage noblewomen not feel that bad about arranged marriages - like maybe you'll learn to love him even though he seems like a horrible old beast to you at first. How can you make people these days relate to that?
But also, Beastly is one of my favorite bad movies too :D
i think it works when the moral is put on the beast, where he has to improve himself, compared to the original where the story puts all the expectations for growth on the woman. Women don't really need to get over their arranged marriages, but boy does self-improvement for love hold true in modern times.
@@pinkcupcake4717 in most of the versions I read as a kid (since the folk tale itself was subtly changed many times in transcription, and one could even argue that psyche and Eros was the true original version) the beast was genuinely kind and smart and cared about belle. So it was less about her learning how to fix him, and more her learning that even though he seemed scary at first, he was actually a good person. Like every night they would have long, personal Talks by the fire about life and books and whatever else, so that would make him an especially kind and attentive husband in a period in time when two people who were married didn't even really have to speak to each other for it to be considered a happy marriage.
Also, I feel like people forget that fairy tales didn't exist all alone? Young girls had beauty and the beast to tell them "hey, that guy that you're marrying might seem scary now, but he might actually be a good person on the inside" and then on the flip side, they had the story of Bluebeard to tell them "hey, this charming handsome guy you're marrying might actually be monstrous and have a closet full of chopped up dead wives (but don't worry, you can kill him)"
i think the disney film does a pretty good modernization by becoming a tale of empathy and the capacity of growth and change. howard ashman’s storytelling instincts really shine through with that one IMO
@@antoniom9332 *the 90s animated one
Cuz then there was a live action one that sucked eggs
(Also I guess if Howard Ashman had gotten to live longer Disney woulda taken over the world by now)
I love how Twilight had the idea of vampires but hot, while Beastly just had the idea of hot guy... *but ugly*
Anne Rice did "vampires but hot", Twilight did "these are still technically vampires, right?"
Honestly I always thought he looked better when he became 'ugly', like 11 year old me was low-key disappointed when he transformed back into himself at the end lmao
ali 19
Same.
I agree, that thorny business was pretty boss in my opinion.
That idea makes sense until you realize how many girls became furries because of The Beast. I mean, the moral of the story is monster boys can be hot too.
I have only one complaint about this amazing movie:
There’s no deaf Cogsworth character for the blind Lumiere to be gay with
*atemps to hold in laughter but fails*
XDXDXDXDXDXD
This would have been wonderfully iconic
oh perfection
Okay who are we casting as deaf gay Cogsworth?
That'd be a rough relationship though because they would have trouble communicating
"Daddy don't got" best line in the movie
It should have ended like Shrek - Hunter floats in the air with light and magic erupting from his skin. But then it's revealed that he hasn't changed... Because he's already beautiful to her.
I feel like Shrek is the only "Beauty & the Beast" story to get that part right
Beast: I think...I think I’m falling in love with you.
Soundtrack: FaaaaLLIng In lOooVeeee!!!
I’ve watched this video at least 6 times and “FALLING IN LOOOVE” still makes me burst out giggling every time
Could ... could our main man be ... falling in love? With our heroine? I just can’t tell ...
So he's named Kyle "Kingson" because he's a prince.
...did they not realize "Prince" is a last name that exists?
Also "Kingston".
Too on the nose 😁
@@bergman864 kingson is more on the nose.
they didn't want to make it TOO obvious, duh
@@nilla1045 😂
Just wait for the Green Party Party After-Party.
4:15 frankenskank might be the most iconic insult I've ever heard 10 outta 10
Okay.. the “house keepers” Jamaican accent is killing me. They make it sound like she can’t speak english. She doesn’t even speak in complete sentences. Did the writers not realize that English is literally Jamaica’s first language?? (My mother is Jamaican and literally one of the most well spoken people I know so this is ridiculous to me)
lmao they couldn't do one google search and figure that out??
I'm offended because I'm born and grown in Jamaica and people make it seem like we are stupid of live under a rock
Or that we all drink rum every chance we get, or run and do nothing else
In the book she was from Mexico so the not speaking english very well thing made more sense. Why they made this change is beyond me.
I'm not a native English speaker but so far basically all Jamaicans I've talked to spoke English at least as well as I do just with an accent which definitely didn't sound like that housekeeper either.
Why did the witch vandalize his posters in that weird shade of peach?
Probably a foreshadowing, because it's in the shade of *S K I N*
She had that shade of lipstick on hand.
Ummm, cuz by nature Witches are contrary....?
@@dewchamp5716 wait. Skin? Who's skin? Not all skin
@@MaleTears Obviously, the dude's skin. He's pale.
Beastly is absolutely a 'The book was better' sort of thing. And Re: Kendra, there's a sort of sequel that reveals more of her backstory, other curses/times she's used magic and how it went poorly, all framed as her befriending the stepsister in the Cinderella story that's going on.
Edit at 32:45-the alternat ending is closer to the book ending, honestly.
Book has:
-Actual Beast Kyle
-Doctors say they literally can't undo it because it would kill him
-subpoint-he tries shaving off his fur, thinks he'll just need daily waxing, and then it grows back instantly. He also has super healing for no clear reason.
-Lindy's dad does break in to steal at the one year point [because book curse gives Kyle 2 years] and damages something in his rose garden, then offers Lindy in order to not die
-Lindy's flat out scared of Kyle at first, and while he did try to win her over via making a bedroom with connected library over in the townhouse for her [Based upon books in her home, since he has a mirror to spy] she's only truly won over via classes after they've met face to face
-IIRC, they meet because there's a thunderstorm and she goes downstairs to the living room where Kyle's watching TV, because thunderstorms scare her/remind her of gunshots due to growing up in a not-good neighborhood
-Lots of bonding, exploring the attic, etc to show an actual build up of the relationship.
-They go to a lodge, during winter, because Lindy wants to be able to play in the snow [as it's Winter]
-She goes back because she uses the mirror to check in on her dad, who's Mid-ODing and she needs to go take care of him
-Kyle doesn't give her a letter that I can recall, but I could be wrong
-Side note: Kyle makes a deal with Kendra at some point that if he breaks the curse, Will gets his sight back and Zola is reunited with her family [Spoilers: Kendra and Zola are the same person since she was punished for the curse, and in breaking the curse she's reunited with her coven]
-Kyle checks on Lindy with the mirror on occasion and one of those shows her being attacked-Either due to her dad trading her for drugs or due to her being alone in a bad neighborhood, since she was riding the subway every night to try finding him [There was a station she could see from the townhouse roof, she didn't know which one]
-Runs out and goes to her to save her, gets shot, lives because she says she loves him. Ends up on the news because he didn't remember his winter coat/scarf to hide his beastly features
-Some editions have a special section where you read Lindy's Diary and get her side of the story [I haven't read that version yet, don't know what's in it]
Woah
Why doesn’t the witch just go around magically granting green cards to people in need?
Neil Patrick Harris looks like he's suffering when forced to say "cage the rage"
He's a respectable, talented ADULT actor. Of course that required the swallowing of pride.
If I had to say that shit, I would be suffering too
"And now he's a drug addict... which only pays slightly better..."
God that was hilarious idk why
The world undervalues teachers, people who shape the lives of our youngest and most impressionable people
My 60+ year old mother LOVES this movie and I've watched it with her at least 3 times.
My condolences cole.
It's the fact that the tattoos magically shift with the seasons for me. Like that's so unbelievably cool, why would you ever wanna give that up?
Neil Patrick Harris has chemistry with EVERYONE.
Even when he's cosplaying as Matt Murdock
🥰 Daddy
@@qwellen7521 I'm glad I'm not the only who sees that. 😂😂
It's true. He was in my chemistry class when I was in high-school
Becsuse he is perfect
the quirky sitcom music over the scene where kyle gets shot is literally killing me
36:23 her interests are slaying me.
"The Thompsons(Hunter S. and Jim)
Che(REVOLUTION)
Bowie, Kinks[im going to assume they meant the band]
Better healthcare for All
Machu Picchu(Live the dream)"
"embrace the suck" is something a midwestern mom saw on facebook and now says constantly, unprompted, even in instances when you're not using self-deprecating humor.
That's something you tell prostitutes right? To embrace the suck.
Wasn't that a Gulf War thing?
I know soldiers called a lot of places in the Middle East "the Suck".
much like saying "it was a hot mess"
It's dumb to think that those tattoos and scars (and staples?) would ruin his love life for eternity, have ever seen a person with body mods? All he has to do is go to a heavy metal concert
I love this comment.
Honestly it's not as bad as the movie version of Ready Player One (no, I haven't read the book). Apparently she's all worried about being super ugly and unattractive, yet shes played by a conventionally attractive actress. The whole thing that makes her "ugly" in the movie is a birthmark that she can easily cover, even though it doesn't actually detract from her conventional attractiveness.
@@brittanyr9471 I saw that too! I actually yelled at my screen, it looked more like a mild allergic reaction to some makeup than a hideous birthmark that needs to be hidden away. We all have our insecurities, but that was just a lazy makeup job, or they didn't want her to be "too ugly", cuz how else will the protagonist love her
@@brittanyr9471 if i dont wrong in the book Art3mis is described with thar birth mark
@@taurusblack9282 I heard she was also described as dull and overweight in the book. If the book also described her as pretty with her only flaw being a birth mark, fuck the book too.
Glad they reworked this first draft of Deadpool
I remember this movie cuz I was thirteen and in the theatre I yelled “kiss!” And everyone laughed and the girl I liked laughed and it was a great moment
Aww that's sweet
I'm so confused, because the Green Party is an actual political party
Well this movie makes me not want to vote for anyone in the green party ever, the last thing I'd want to have is a president who is willing to, "Embrace the suck."
No the Green Party is an environmental protection party
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 _laughs in Andrew Weaver_
Yup living in Germany Die Grüne is what they're called....like why do this to them
@@dontburstmybubble686 In the UK, it's a political party.
What gets me is that I'm pretty sure the Enchantress says the curse can be lifted by someone saying "I love you" - not someone actually loving them, just saying "I love you".
tom fegan his dad sure wasn’t gonna say “I love you” and the housekeeper like... I guess maybe she could’ve become a real mother figure and subverted a bit of expectation like Frozen (I guess that’s a really loose use of the term “subvert expectation” but you get me.)
@@EveLavellan *hands housekeeper a note in spanish* "hey can you translate this?"
"Oh sure it says "I love you"
END
* walks up to random stranger *
"here read this page aloud for me please"
"??? wtf?? okay fine i guess. it says 'i love you'??"
"thanks man!!"
* magical transformation *
They sent the witch back to high school for being bad at wording curses
Craigslist ad: "Will pay $20 for you to tell me that you love me"
I cannot express how badly I wanted him to type “I’m ugly” as the reason for deactivating his Facebook
i thought that was what he was gonna type
Fun fact: if you look closely at his eyebrow tats, the "symbols" that make them up are just "embrace the suck" in a weird font.
Kyle's transformation isn't "beastly" so much as "Abercrombie to Hot Topic"
Like... there are non-magical deformities a human can have, if they were so concerned about realism
That, for me, was the most ridiculous part about the movie. I can remember the general reaction when the trailer broke being, "THAT's supposed to be ugly? He looks hotter as a beast!"
This is too accurate for words.
The worst thing about it is he loses his hair, which to be fair is pretty distressing, but overall it's just not THAT bad. And like she says, the way this film treats disability is... bad, just so so bad...
This is literally a Wattpad story adapted for the silver screen and nobody can convince me otherwise--random kidnapping? Melodramatic broody love interest? Main character with no semblance of a personality? Lazy story telling devices because the Plot Needs to Happen (i.e., witches)? He turns out hot in the end anyway because it's not a happy ending if they're both not hot? Wattpad.
Except this was before wattpad was a huge or even a moderate thing, I like to think that it helped create wattpads story structure
It WAS a book. I remember reading it and hating it but could never get myself to watch the movie
You have to remember that this was written during the emo era. Also, Twilight was very popular during this time. Hence the brooding moody protagonist and the angsty storyline.
Chantel Spriggs I actually enjoyed the book, for what it was. I was disappointed with how they handled adapting it to the big screen.
@@JadeEyes1 I enjoyed the book as well. It's a bit off a guilty pleasure haha I've actually re-read it quite often 😊 They really didn't go about developing it well for screen. It was such a wasted opportunity.
I always assumed Zola was supposed to be an undocumented immigrant or refugee, suggesting that she was "trapped" in employment and being pressured to stay quiet about Kyle's appearance, but the self-hating disabled tutor is weird and unnecessary. This movie is so strangely iconic, what a fever dream
As someone who read the original book years ago, I can confirm that the whole idea with lindy's father breaking in to Kyles house to steal money was exactly what happened, from my vague recollections.
... oh, and he was an actual beast. So yeah, I can't confirm how well it holds up, but there are at least elements the book did better imo
my absolute favourite detail of kyle's beastly face is that his eyebrows are replaced with tattoos of the words "EMBRACE" "SUCK"
I just got to that picture and I had to check the comments to see if anyone else saw that too.
🤣
I’m so sorry I accidentally disliked your very excellent comment while giggle-snorting.
😳
Embrace suck?
Plot twist: the witch doesn’t actually attend the school, but she really wanted to go to Machu Picchu, so she implanted a fake memory of her being at the school in everyone’s heads so she could go along.
Love this concept
I wanna see the movie that's just the Witch's quest to get to Machu Pichu
"She doesn't even go here!"
She could... just go
That would explain the greenscreen, her presence at that speech was actually a fake memory
PLEASE I know SO many women who would go crazy over an alternative guy with body modifications. Like seriously he’s have no issues dating I don’t think.
“I know it’s life or death but I’ve been saving for that Machu Picchu trip for three years!”
What an incredible line.
Both the money and Machu Picchu will be there after all this.