AMD Radeon VII Tear-Down & Graphite Thermal Pad
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- čas přidán 3. 02. 2019
- We take apart AMD's new Radeon VII video card, featuring Vega architecture, and look at the PCB, cooling solution, and assembly process.
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The AMD Radeon VII video card somewhat interestingly uses a Hitachi HM03 graphite thermal pad, as opposed to normal paste, which is something we can look at in future testing. The PCB will receive separate analysis, but requires some voltage measurements in order to determine the exact VRM locations. As for benchmarks for AMD Radeon VII (and the review), those will have to wait. The product launches on the 7th, which is likely around when follow-up content will post, including tests vs. the RTX 2080 / GTX 1080 Ti.
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other channel: Lets start unboxing
GN: Lets start tear-down
Joko JMC Linus: opps i dropped it
@@CooKiiePanda LinusDropTips
This video marks the point where I finally decided that Gamers Nexus is worth being subscribed to. (I don't easily subscribe to a channel)
Steve unboxes the GPU.
@@After_Pasta Yeah, JayzTwoCents commented that AMD said he couldn't do a tear-down of the card yet, even though they said he could tear it down at an earlier date. AMD must've changed their minds and didn't want anyone to do tear-downs just yet.
4:28 "it's not removed, it's modified... the sticker is still there" lol Tech Jesus does make a good point
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Thats actually why they are just "not enforcable" rather than completely illegal. If you leave them on and break through them, then you didnt actually remove them and if you remove them, then theres nothing on the card saying that you voided the warranty anymore. They are entirely meaningless and only there to scare of noobs from fucking things up.
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Ya I even had sapphire aprove me to take my card apart before sending it in for rma lol.
Warranty Void stickers are also not enforceable in Canada.
Can technically cop fines for them in Australia
I had a rep from XFX tell me, on the phone, that they are not enforceable in North America. He confirmed that they are to scare-off noobs; and, so they can tell if it has been opened while troubleshooting RMAs.
Not sure about Canada, but they can NOT deny a claim simple based on the fact the sticker was removed. They MUST provide proof that the user modifications caused the damage to the device. I believe this only applies if they are offering the warranty repair for free.
Nice. I did not know that. Thank you. I am Canadian.
If you had removed them without leaving any marks they would have to prove that they were there on that specific card which would also be quite pointless without having taken some pictures after being manufactured (showing part numbers too) - apart from the only reason is to scare customers off.
Thank you Gamers Nexus for providing a technical breakdown of the Radeon VII. Unboxing videos are fun but these just take it to the next LEVEL.
I can’t sleep until I see a teardown of the box and packaging itself. What is it made from? Does it use 100% recyclable materials? Can it be used to store such foodstuffs as Nachos & Cheese for them late night MMO sessions? etc. etc. etc...
I love the cooler, it's so clean and professional looking.
Some hate it but I agree
Not professional but industrial
My take as well. It looks really simple, but it's a lot of technical work to get it to look so clean. Otherwise it would be a mish-mash of pipes and fins. Looks really good.
@@youtubasoarus i want to know temps of this since there will be no non reference models. I had 2 rtx 2080. Both are dead. Waiting radeon vii release
@@evalangley3985 Ah I forgot to mention. I got full refund already. My first Gigabyte rtx 2080 gaming OC died after week of usage (blue screen, artifacts, black screen). My second was from MSI - rtx 2080 gaming x trio. It was DOA. Got refund the same day. RTX 2080/2080ti/some 2070 - lots of complains on Nvidia forum. Now I'm using my old radeon 7970 and waiting for VII
TinyTomLogan: I don't think we can tear this down yet because it's under NDA
GamersNexus: Hold my beer
Mograine Lefay legal team paying for itself
Finally true unboxing.
Why the instant autopsy on the item?
@@mohdfaizal6773 why not
the downgrade on the VRM over the utterly insanely overbuilt Vega reference cards bodes either very well or very bad. Either AMD was sandbagging like mad when they stated a 300w TDP; or they don't wan't a repeat of the legendary value king Vega 56 OC specials where this card is able to eclipse later full fat Vega 7nm releases.
@@mohdfaizal6773 To see how terribly made the card is.
Steve said that if he ever did an unboxing embargo video to shoot him. I'm coming for you, Steve.
what a beautiful card, the gpu die looks amazing !
Those stickers are also illegal in Canada by the way.
Ironic, as ATi was a Canadian company before they merged with AMD.
Should be illegal world wide.
Why?
As in Europe IIRC
So what can you say to the manufacturer to honor a fix if needed? Because my XFX card has lifetime warranty. Should I still take it apart to do maintenance?
Wow, interesting use of an alternate TIM there, wasn't expecting that! Looking forward to the testing comparing that to paste.
I got so excited seeing this in my subfeed. I just love technology.
i feel ya brah
We all do 😁
Me too. Woke up "fuck it's - 36*Celcius. Ouh but Steve is dropping a hott Vid".
Interesting Hitachi makes thermal pads as well as massagers
They are especially famous for their manufacturing robots and manufacturing plant equipment, they also make heavy machinery, and trains, and aircraft, defence electronics, consumer electronics, semiconductors, they are HUGE
@@fortunefed8719 yep
@@vyor8837 sorry, but i didnt mention HGST for a reason - they arent owned by Hitachi, they were sold to WD years ago, and the brand has been phased out.
Hitachi is just a massive corporation. Sort of like Samsung, who make everything from phones to washing machines to automatic sentry guns.
@@fortunefed8719 they werent as bad as the IBM drives before Hitachi bought them. The DeskStar 75GXP was known as the DeathStar for a reason XD. Thankfully i bought Quantum back then lol, was rather sad when they sold their drive biz to crappy Maxtor (2nd time Maxtor wrecked my fave drives)
3:36 *Ayayay, AMD we're gonna have to talk*
Ayaya intensifies.....
AyaMD
... And that's how it's done boys and girls ! Unboxing down to the chip itself !
I want to see Gamers Nexus go further some day and do reballing of GPUs and BIOS swaps... that would be sick!! On GDDR cards you could even double the VRAM swaping 1GB modules to 2GB modules after a BIOS swap... scientific study only, but pretty cool.
και εδω Ελληνες παντου ειμαστε !!!
I've been theorizing an how to use graphite as a thermal solution in electronics for years. It's so cool to see it done with resin to make a directional pad.
Cool story bruh
Ian H don’t you feel cool
@@ianh43 it is cool because graphite has exceptional thermal properties (because carbon, of course) however it is limited in what "direction" heat flows through graphite/carbon or any material in general. Graphite is also a semiconductor in most forms hence why it is usually just used as a dry lubricant/negative casting in industrial environments.
It's so groovy how they utilized carbon in a high covalent bond state but avoided enclosing it within another space. I imagined it would find its way into a composite type heat pipe as opposed to "direct" contact.
Great breakdown, always solid content Steve. Missed you in Vegas, maybe next year. Cheers
Looks nice
That is a massive amount of copper!
Big Penny will be pleased.
It's actually really thin (like 0.5 mm), so it's probably not more than 100 grams or so of copper.
Looking forward to thermals, and performance metrics, thanks for teardowns, unique to this channel.
Always the most comprehensive reviews, thanks GN.
Bitwit:Lets unbox this
GN: Lets tear it down
Bitwit is a nitwit and a soyboy
1:38 My OCD is firing hard on those bent fins
ME TOO! It was the first thing I noticed and I was triggered immediately lol
Very nice! Looks very tidied up and straight forward. I like the simple and clean industrial-esque look.
Agressive unboxing, good job ! Glad to see the reference cooler is so good !
XFX: "we only enforce it in places we can screw people over."
Worlds first 7nm videocard, holy smokes its awesome! Thank you Space Jesus!
No. Gaming card.
Tech* jesus
7nm, but not really 7nm. The standards are so weird. Like AMD's 7nm is closer to what Intel's 10nm is supposed to be.
@@KainArkanos Yeah the semiconductor node names are just marketing, as the process can't be defined by one measurement anymore. According to wikichips, intels 10nm has the same CPP (contacted gate pitch) as TSMC 7nm, but TSMC 7nm has smaller SRAM cells (which are a pretty good measure of density). So TSMC 7nm competes with Intel 10nm on a pure data standpoint, but in the real world it looks like Intels yield on 10nm is still not very good, and they have only released a low power mobile CPU without IGP.
@@alexanderdaum8053 Either tech is very impressive and I fear we better get used to them for about the next 5 years
Definitely have to say that Gamers Nexus always has the best content with the most information. They are willing to do as much as they can while toeing the line for us viewers. Thanks Steve!
that cooling solution is an beautiful craft honestly. really shows an passion of their jobs imo.
that xfx series of amd cards looked sooooooooo sexy. sadly they dont do them like this anymore.. :(
Yea true, they even made a triple axial cooler for the HD 7990:
cdn.videocardz.com/1/2013/09/XFX-Radeon-HD-7990-Triple-Dissipation.jpg
I also really liked the older Gainward Phantom designs:
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But they tended to overheat (IIRC of course)
I miss my R7 270x card from them...
@@imneverbackingdown R9 ! :P
But xfx had one of the worst hd 7970 cards for example, from this ghost series.
Buildzoid about NDA: i cannot do performance testing for you abut i will do volt mod instead
As always a great video from GN.
Much thanks for the in-depth teardown and analysis!
wow this is a very simple cooler design, but still looks that it can cool a lot
let's hope at least that it does XD
with 300w power draw it better cools REALLY well
The only I doubt is that graphite thermal pad, though the number is much higher than my cheapo thermal paste. But hope it will do just like it should...
@@gamtax I'm sure tests have shown that thermal pads only have 1-2c differemce. However, this thermal pad is "different" than things like grizzly pad and others I think.... In other words, I doubt you'd need to change the pad for some good thermal paste/ or find it necessary for a degree or so difference.
Buildzoid is drooling over this atm.
Best un-boxing so far thank you, love tear-downs vids
I love it when you "modify" the warranty sticker instead of remove it. Thumbs up! @4:35
Plz compare temps of this graphite TIM with Kryonaut and Conductonaut!
And with Scribblenaut, please
Yes! Yes! Tessa!
Yes!
I agree, beyond I don’t like the fan design
Other techtubers: We can only unbox it
GN: *the cooler counts as a box*
These graphite sheets are also on the asus strix fury cards. Thanks for doing the research finding what it is because I couldn't find it on google lol.
Thx for the break down. Not sure why the others aren't doing it.
that cooler looks amazing, almost worth the $700 dollar price tag lol, I've got my fingers crossed regarding the performance.
how's that type of magnifying lens called (the satechi one)?
Hubble
ReadMate
Impressive build quality... Looking forward to the results of the benchmarks. Hope this will give some competition from AMD again. Loved the previous Vega series!
Gamers Nexus does the only true unboxing. Thanks!
This card will definitely need some liquid cooling.
That should be TDA21472. They are 70A power stages but nowhere to find data sheet.
www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-Power_and_Sensing_Selection_Guide_2018-SG-v00_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d4625607bd13015621522aa012cb this has some data on them on page 178, but no datasheet. Probably the same file you found, anyways
@@tommihommi1 Yes that's the same as I found. If it is a improved version of TDA21470, it should be able to handle 30A with 95%+ efficiency. That's quite impressive.
@@yitaozhang5847 I have some friends who work at Infineon, maybe they can get the data (but it's unlikely). If they leak it to me, I'll send it to buildzoid loo
@@yitaozhang5847 compare with www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-ProductBrief_LatestGeneration_IntegratedPowerStages_25V-PB-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d462533600a40153981e815e7466 , 21470 seems to have slightly wider input voltage range and higher operation frequency from 1MHz to 1.5MHz.
I love it. You guys get products I dream about and just bust them wide open. Cool look inside!
As always, epic video. I'm hoping for good performance numbers. As soon as you release the benchmark video I'll be deciding on if I'm getting one or not.
Is it wrong of me to say, that this card looks visually more pleasing than the entire Nvidia lineup?
No, AMD has always made better looking cards than Nvidia.
@@mpk6664 From 780 up until vega you really going to say that ?
Around 17 minutes in, you state that only 2.5 of the heat pipes make contact with the "relevant area" referring to the area directly above the die, with the heat spreading characteristics of a vapor chamber, wouldn't any area on the vapor chamber that those heat pipes come in contact with be a "relevant area"? BTW great tear-down as always.
I think the pipes themselves actually serve as expansion for the vapor to be wicked away from the vapor chamber (the square part of the sandwich). They are not actually in the sandwich part, they are like the fingers of a glove I think, where the palm is the vapor chamber itself.
@@youtubasoarus I am 99% sure they are a separate system, as attaching the heat pipes to the vapor chamber in such a manner as to allow for effective wicking action to occur would be extremely expensive.
It's hard to see with the fin stack, but most likely they are each isolated heat pipes sitting on top of the vapor chamber, just like the new Nvidia RTX cards.
@@SweetBabyJay dont think that's how it works man. They are integral to the whole assembly one big chamber. How else would the liquid from around the die evap? Where would it go? It goes int the tubes, settling into a vapor and hence wicking away the heat.
@@youtubasoarus vapor chambers have the condensation occur at the top of the chamber and the liquid travels back down to the base along the edges. Their function is to spread heat. That's where the fins on top come into play, to dissipate heat. Heat pipes transfer heat from one place to another. If placed on top of a vapor chamber they are quite effective. Look at the Nvidia thermal solution for the RTX 2080ti, they are heat pipes soldered on top of the vapor chamber.
Really, we need @Gamersnexus to cut this heatsink in half to tell us once and for all of the heat pipes are a fully integrated as a single wicking system (a first as far as I know in the industry) or if it is just heat pipes soldered/fused on top of a vapor chamber which is a common practice. Steve needs to do it, in the name of science.
killer work GN!
Beastly cooler! Can't wait to see how it performs!
Will reference Vega64 waterblocks fit also this Vega VII?
good question ... it looks like it might fit ... *fingerscrossed"
It cant fit the GPU die is way bigger... Vega 64 die size is 495mm² and Vega 7 is 331mm²
@@ElonMusk-Krypto But the package area is the same to me. It seems so.
@@TRHardware pcfiend.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/AMD-Vega-20-vs-Vega-10-900x506.jpg
Seem unlikely. It looks like the VRM design is different.
did anyone saw the ATI Stickers on the Backplate? Its still ATI (internly)
Timestamp?
@@MephistoDerPudel on the german pcgh Video,,
@@LosisChannel czcams.com/video/Rm5P16LT2As/video.html
There it is :D
Witzig.
I like how this card looks. Seems to be very well designed. I hope it performs well!
Please do some production benchmarks as well, those are always interesting to see.
When is performance embargo lifted?
February 7th I think.
Did you even watch the video?
bnr32rbpower yeah he actually didn’t give a date did you watch it? Hopefully it’s before release day
Dan Brown thanks was hoping it would be before
Feburary 7th. I think that's on purpose and not coincidence. You know because Radeon 7 and Feburary 7?
Definitely hack that Radeon logo off and see if it improves thermals
Probably not.
I wouldn't mind seeing that myself. I know the logo needs to go somewhere like he said in the video but it's time that manufacturers stop placing it in what I would qualify as a critical / functional location. On this card cooling design, it seems to me that is the area I would want the most open for heat dissipation.
@@76TyranT76
They could also go for a 'skeleton' type design. So that there's basically as little material as they can get away with for the nameplate.
@@taiiat0 like evga icx
looking forward to the performance review!
I love the look of the card. Can't wait for the review.
It seems especially ironic they put the blockage in the fan shroud RIGHT over the GPU itself
Not really relevant if there is a fkin block of copper above it anyway. Propably should just push some cooler air to the copper.
seems like a good proportion of that heatsink is overhang anyway. that logo is nothing a dremel couldn't fix if it turned out to be a problem. it's just a LED lit piece of plastic on an aluminium plate
You just exposed your fingerprint.
Thumbs up learning about warranty stickers! Will look into that rule more though
Had to like the video Because, The Sticker is Not Removed but modified so Warranty is still in included. Great Job Steve.
for some reason i love the design of the AMD cards over the nvidia founders
It's called personal taste.
@@Safetytrousers AMD's design seems cleaner though.
I took the comment to mean the visual appeal. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@Safetytrousers You are not allowed to like anything nvidia these days.
They won't enforce over the broken sticker, but that sticker being broken will lead them to find something else "wrong" with the card and allow them to deny your claim. GPU manufacturers are shady.
Will you be doing undervolting testing with this card as well as hybrid undervolt/overclocking?
This is one gorgeous video card. Looks very utilitarian, symmetrical, without any plastic/glue/LED nonsense.
Looks like an expensive heatsink
step 1: Cripple airflow for design
step 2: Have to build an expensive heatsink to compensate
$320 of HBM + $180 of heatsink.
Blocking airflow with a big, gaudy company logo is hip nowadays.
@@tommihommi1 Doesn't look like they crippled airflow for design, looks fairly decent as far as coolers go
my old 5870 vapor-x on the wall is a proud papa crying right now.. :)
@Cavey Möth
forgive me for my whataboutism; but GPU's have a way to go before they start pulling the same shit we are seeing on motherboards these days. I miss the X58 days, where companies like Asrock would use cheapo vrm's for value mobo's, but cool them so well that they OC's just a bout as well as vastly larger and more expensive designs. [ X58 Extreme3 for reference]
I think the thermal pad is better for HBM becsuse thermal paste sometimes doesn't spread to the HBM.
Nice Nice looking forward to benchmarks !
pulling out that XFX 7850 had me a nostalgia moment. I used to game on an fx6300 with XFX 7870 with the dual fans that looked just like that @2:00
thats a lot of copper ..is that real?
No, they painted iron.
It’s electroplated probably.
It's plastic.
It's painted wood. Mahogany; extra-fancy.
It's unobtanium
Next, AMD works with Gsync!
Vapor chamber + heat pipes, and a heatsink that fills out almost all the entire space of the chosen form factor. In terms of maximum thermal dissipation, this is basically as good as it gets without making the footprint of the card lager to fit in more fins, or moving on to a waterblock. Really impressive.
oh man so excited about the benchmarks and perfonce of this card
So when are u allowed to post benchmarks?
flasha29 Friday morning 1am Melbourne time
@@uglyduckling81 Perfect time for me to get paid and decide to buy one :)
In about 3 days. The 6/7th.
7:10 "You can see indentations of the HBM so its making contact"
9:45 "Its epoxy coated that makes everything the same height (flat), if we measure it you will no difference "
one of the best tech channels out there
i haven't watched your videos in a while. you would usually be around 10-20k views and i don't remember how many subscribers. now you're sitting at half a mil subs and substantially more views on your videos by the looks of it. it's about time. i don't understand what took so long!
All 5 heat pipes make direct contact with the vapor chamber... all 5 of them make relevant contact because that is the point of the vapor chamber.
Power hungry, but the benchmarks will tell us if this card is a flop or not!
yeah sadly I suspect the power usage will be horrible even if the card is good.
@@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475It should be around the same power draw as the Vega cards.
well the recommended requirement is 650w, lower than the 750w vega 64 according to powercolor
Love how you strip it to the bones while all the other channels just unbox it ;)
What about the laminated Vega 20 GPU acrylic display piece like the ones other reviewers got? Did you get one too?
You got permission from AMD to tear down? Another reviewer asked and was denied by AMD.
He said initially on the video that anything that anything that is performance, benchmarks, temps etc its not allowed, but dissambly is and GN always careful on embargo rules.
"May I take apart this GPU, sir?"
"Denied! Sit down!"
czcams.com/video/k6gdltu1a50/video.html
@@mayukaproject2427 czcams.com/video/izKBlQUxeX8/video.html In this video there is a different response from AMD
better to ask for forgiveness than permission, besides its sacrilege to say no when tech jesus wants a teardown
Do we really need these pre embargo embargoed unboxing "previews"?
Edit: Just to clarify I have nothing against the content and the work GN puts into this video (considering a teardown is actually interesting) but more against the practice of "3 different embargos"
-placement/teaser
-unboxing
-finally the actual review
no but views lul
This is actually reasonable, not an "unboxing", but a video that GN would likely do anyway.
We might not need them but i enjoy watching them.
You don't like it piss off! Simple.. No ones forcing you to click on the video.
No, and Steve hates them too lol
Got both Vega cards on launch. I think Im gonna get this one as well. I sold the Vega cards used a year later for more I paid at launch. They are good cards. They compute and game as a benefit.
Thanks for you unboxing, any schedule for the test in real game ?
Watch ASUS come out with the same damn reference design, slap ROG on the side, and charge $2000 for it....
SMH....
That cooler is a huge design flaw. The air is supposed to blow out on top and bottom. Top is almost closed of and the bottom, well that straight down into the motherboard.
the expensive vaporchamber+heatpipe design with a fuckton of copper is to combat the airflow issues.
Yeah, the cost of a logo... is paid in thermals.
So many armchair engineers on here think they know better than a multi-billion dollar company. Amazing. You should go work for them and show them what they did wrong. I'm sure all the engineers who lost sleep over this project would really like to hear what you have to say about their design.
@@youtubasoarus the caveman encourages these troglodytes to make these uninformed comments, he does the same crap in his videos all the time. i've seen him shitting on these type of graphite pads before, saying he would do testing, and nothing comes of it. probably because it outperforms his sponsor?
@@youtubasoarus I am happy engineering at my current company. What makes an 'armchair engineer' in your opinion? I actually design and test electronic component coolers at the moment. How many hours have you spent reading airflow and fluid sim data? Here is a simple experiment you can do at home: (for the kids) Get some temperature monitoring software, and run your preferred PC stress test. Check the high temperature recorded. Let it normalize. Reset your monitoring software. Then, cover half the exhaust of the case with something, tape, paper, cardboard... optionally write your name on it. Run the same stress test. Notice the temperature difference? It doesn't really take an engineer to figure out cutting off a large percentage of airflow on an air cooler will affect efficacy. And in the case of computer components, this will certainly lead to performance throttling in sustained work loads. It seems like the entire Vega line is plagued with cooling issues. But damn... they look gorgeous! I can't wait to get mine.
Yeah, replace the graphite sheet and compare it, would love to see comparisons!
Thanks for making the unveil interesting Steve, I don't see the point of an unboxing video when the packaging is not retail, looking forward to your performance testing
How can you get this card so early bro lol😂😂
Bro
@@djsahilking3807 reviewer's card
So he can test this card bro 😂😂
What is an embargo
You can do something that not allowed bro 😁
They should let board partners make their own so they can actually look good 😥 I can't think of anything that thing will match...
2-3 months
@@shido8597 They're actually letting them be made? I thought I read something crazy like only 500 made and no board partners involved... Although that could just be AMDs initial release and I'm just an idiot 😅
@@RS-bl7mj there is no way AMD is designing a new chip to make 500 of. And if they did, we sure as hell couldnt afford them. Think house per chip.
@@mycosys Yeah I'm thinking I read things wrong. Now I'm seeing 5000 but still says no custom cards which kinda sucks.
@@mycosys It's just a repurposed Instinct, so not much extra designing going on. Reportedly it costs AMD $750 to make each one, which means they will be selling them at a loss (but staying kind of relevant until they can get Navi out, so maybe worth the small loss). Still, they will make a lot more than 500 lol
wow the quality of that stock cooler is impresive, i understand the msrp now
That chunk of pad that you left on the GPU was driving me nuts!
lolll its not removed.... its modified
I do love your channel. However being a R&D engineer and seeing what customers return trying to claim the warranty is insane. Clearly they had no idea what they were doing, and screwed it up, then they expect the manufacturer to spend their time and money fixing what they messed up. Not to pick bones here, but you and Linus both touch these sensitive boards all the time without a static strap on your arm. Sheesh, why do you think they comes in static bags? because they like to spend more money? This is why I do not understand your thinking about the warranty.
For instance. I make a device like your video card. I have properly torqued down the heat-sink to the board. Then some ha-ho wants to put new paste on. When he screws it down he over torqued the heatsink and cracked the die, or something else on the board. They he wants to claim the warranty. Why should I as the manufacturer pay for his screw up out of my own pocket ? How is that right?
Basicly you dont have to pay for stuff, that a customer fucked, i dont really get your point.
Lot of companys are using these stickers, so they actually know if they customer removed the cooler.
If the sticker is fine, they dont have to look for damage, that someone might did, by removing the cooler.
Time is money.
If the sticker is broken, and they see obvious damage, done by a customer, then they can and most likely will deny warrenty.
and yet they havent ruined anything from a static shock hmm.....
So how much is the Torque on that screws? do you have any reference. do you have a special tool to test? is your waranty void if you open your cars hood and screw up at the engine? Do you refill the most important part of your cars engine... the oil? how do you know that you use the right oil? Is your waranty void if you take "kind" of the right oil? Pointless isnt it?
As far as I know usually Linus has an anti static strap attached to his leg and a table leg.
A wild elitist 'ha-ho' has appeared, and with a smug level of 6+.
Quick, someone catch it and take it to an optometrist, as it appears to need its vision corrected.
thanks for all the information ! with the part numbers of the spare parts, very cool !
I plan to watercool the card. Usually when the next generation comes, i put the stock cooler back and sell the waterblock separately
Since they use a graphite thermal pad, i guess i have to use the same pad in replacement ?
would thermal paste work ? (a good one like MX4 or better)
or there is a gap, making the thermal pad mandatory ?
Also, how is the performance of the graphite thermal pad compared to thermal paste ?
Would like to see if there's a difference in thermal results with cryonaut added between base plate and cooler.