I love the edgy young Tom, he was 32 here (when Long After Dark came out). So sad he's not with us anymore, but he lived long enough to see himself become a legend to new generations. It's a trip that in 1983 it wasn't uncommon to see squares only in their 40s or 50s (like the host) who still grew up before the rock and roll era.
There are two musicians who I miss for what they had to say. Tom Petty and Frank Zappa. Both would say things and didn't care if somebody disagreed. They spoke their minds and it made America a better place.
fucking Legend! I can't hardly bare it that he's gone...his music did have some kind of magic just does something too my soul.. just makes you feel on another level....still makes me cry what a beautiful human. you've never truly lived until your on a bus in winter with a black sky and a giant full moon so big it feels the window while listening too room at the top js...one of my favorite memories in my life
Wow Gary Lumpkin is 69, making him only 35 in this interview, coming off like an out of touch, middle-aged square. The dynamic between them around the same age was wild, which shows how awesome Tom was.
Wow good point, I never thought of that before but you could totally be right. They tend to be very old-fashioned (even for religious standards) in general regardless of age, lol.
The solemn soliloquy bit at the end of this segment is no random musing. Gary had his own brief stint in the rock game as front man for the short-lived "Gary Lumpkin and the Electrocardiograms" between '79 and '81.
I actually think it's cool that it has become that way, it probably did even by the late 80s, once the 60s Woodstock hippies and Stones/Zeppelin hard rock fans started becoming the adults and parents of new teenagers
but that comment was totally interesting, shows that to some older generations, rock was still a kinda new thing in 1983. I'd have expected that from the 60s or maybe early 70s at latest
I remember this show, and the one right on the heels of Damn The Torpedoes a few years prior to this, when he was at the St Paul Civic Center Arena (not the main room)...nice piece of history!!! Thx for the upload (I am born, raised and live in Mpls)....this reminds me of going down to the caves....anyone from here in the 70's knows what I am talking about...if they are still alive, of course.
I saw Tom at Winterland and he threw himself into the audience. He still had microphone on and definitely was enjoying being grabbed by everyone. Security was in a frenzy and finally got him back on stage after about 5 minutes. Petty forever ❤️
No, you can see it in the video that someone literally grabbed one of his legs and into the 'mosh pit' he went. He has always said that it was one of the most frightening experiences in his life (and this coming from a man that was brutally abused by his father since he was 5). He always felt lucky that he only lost his vest and some buttons on his shirt. There were people who were literally trying to take a finger off as a souvenir. He learned two things that night: a) that a hot audience can be a very dangerous thing and b) don't stand quite so close to said hot audience! :-)
The video I saw...don't know which concert....but he was too close to the edge of the stage and looked like he fell because of a misstep and the fans caught him and then the video was cut. He was literally standing one minute and just dropped out of sight the next. They caught him and broke his fall but that was all the video really showed. It looked like the audience was as surprised as Tom Petty was seeing the look on his face and kind of a smile and that was it. This must have been a different show because he definitely didn't deliberately throw himself into the audience from what I saw. He was shy with strangers and this was when he was much younger....maybe around early '80's. As long as he wasn't hurt.
Can't believe the interviewer was only freaking 35? He sounded 60 as out of touch he was. Every time I'm afraid of aging and getting uncool in my 30s, I'll watch this dork and immediately feel better! (I could never be as cool as Tom was though)
This is hilarious..Tom being interviewed by a Minnesota local TV station and doing it in a Dylan impression and the interviewer never caught on. Petty and Dylan sound a little similar but not like this. Tom was having some fun here..
He sounded like a square. I bet this show was aimed at middle age adults of that time (born in like 1930). It's weird how rock had been around for 25 years at the time and people that age still might've thought of it like "this newfangled rock and roll music these damn kids are listening to", lol.
...waaaaay too white guy/no azz kinda doood...and that 'Minneeesoohhtahh'accent next juxtaposed with Tom's inherent too cool for words nature just makes the UNcool doood stick out like a sore thumb...
Well, I was 32 in the 80s. You know we weren't squares. I like the doors. I live the blues. So you have to look at in relation to what was available for you at that time. Someday the music that you like will be considered "square.". Don't pitch yourself off a mountain top. That's what happens. It's no big deal.
...this totally UNcool/no-azz whiter than Edgar Winter doood's 'Minneeesoohhdah' -ness next to Tom's inherent natural Southern chawm is as glaring as a lime green plaid polyester jacket...:)!!
Tom is usually most eloquent, but I think it's safe to assume he wasn't at his most lucid here. I think what he's saying is that it'd be a shame if Rock-&-Roll became institutionalized and subservient to the mundane fabrications of monopolizing interests rather than be willing to primally shout out against being swallowed up, broken down, and squeezed through as incorporated waste. Basically, thinking of it now - as a great enthusiast of the Wilson lead Beach Boys - I see Tom Petty as the anti Mike Love. Tom would always run counter to the insticts of Mike, who arrogantly and continuously belabored to bully and undermine his band's artistry by veying for more safe homogenized pandering to trite commercialism - then would go around patting himself smugly on the back while weezeling for any and every way to compromise for a dollar. On the opposite spectrum, Tom was always concerned about remaining authentic to the motivation of his pure muse to move people, and do so with humble regard to the sacred pact of that relationship, so that neither he nor they should ever have their integrity trivalized or exploited toward the gain of any flip sham or quick scam. Their last names of Petty and Love are the epitome of ironic incongruity. Tom Petty forever. 💘
I'm surprised by 1983 they were discussing rock like it was some brand new thing. The '50s rockabilly fans would've been parents of teenagers at the time, and even the 60s British Invasion youth was starting to become "the adults" and could've been parents to like 12 year olds at the time, so the generation gap talk seemed weird to me. Then again this show looked like it was aimed at middle-aged and elderly people, so I guess that's why they were framing it that way. What's interesting too is, it wasn't until Farm Aid and touring with Dylan (1985-86) and especially joining The Wilburys and Full Moon Fever (1988-89) that Tom began to be viewed as a more Middle America heartland rocker. In '83 he still kinda had that hard rock rebellious image, again especially to the older people of that time probably.
The whole idea of a 'generation gap' is passe today. And were people really worried about rock and roll with their kids then? This was done in 1983..think it's just Gary's own mindset.
totally, he seemed like a square, lol. Teens in the early '80s would've definitely had rockabilly 50s teen parents who were Elvis fans (some even probably had 60s hippie parents if they had them young) so rock shouldn't have been a big deal to someone born in like 1940 unless they were uptight religious or something.
@@xennial80sxberner absolutely My father was first generation Rock and Roll. He liked some of the stuff in the 80’s. I liked his music more than he did mine . I let my daughter control the music in the car. She has good taste as i gave some influence, and some of the stuff of today is ok..
He was such a dork and I'm sure Tom thought so too lol. (At the end "Punk rock and new wave is here and I'm trying to figure out what that means.") Someone else said they got a Mormon vibe from him and I could see that.
Later on you could see that he had some good dental work done. In the beginning he even had some teeth missing. The dentists made him pretty adorable in his 30's. RIP our dear Tom Petty.
"coming to a point where maybe the generation gap might even hit you?" that point never hit TP. sold out shows until his death. RIPTOMPETTY
he sure did and a few shows after
I love the edgy young Tom, he was 32 here (when Long After Dark came out). So sad he's not with us anymore, but he lived long enough to see himself become a legend to new generations. It's a trip that in 1983 it wasn't uncommon to see squares only in their 40s or 50s (like the host) who still grew up before the rock and roll era.
There are two musicians who I miss for what they had to say. Tom Petty and Frank Zappa. Both would say things and didn't care if somebody disagreed. They spoke their minds and it made America a better place.
fucking Legend! I can't hardly bare it that he's gone...his music did have some kind of magic just does something too my soul.. just makes you feel on another level....still makes me cry what a beautiful human. you've never truly lived until your on a bus in winter with a black sky and a giant full moon so big it feels the window while listening too room at the top js...one of my favorite memories in my life
Wow Gary Lumpkin is 69, making him only 35 in this interview, coming off like an out of touch, middle-aged square. The dynamic between them around the same age was wild, which shows how awesome Tom was.
I got a Mormon vibe off Gary Lumpkin and that is not an insult, just an observation.
Wow good point, I never thought of that before but you could totally be right. They tend to be very old-fashioned (even for religious standards) in general regardless of age, lol.
Holy cow!! I would've thought Host Gary was a good 15-20 years older than Tom. Tom seemed very hip and cool here, RIP
The solemn soliloquy bit at the end of this segment is no random musing. Gary had his own brief stint in the rock game as front man for the short-lived "Gary Lumpkin and the Electrocardiograms" between '79 and '81.
"I would hate to see rock and roll become more socially acceptable "
I actually think it's cool that it has become that way, it probably did even by the late 80s, once the 60s Woodstock hippies and Stones/Zeppelin hard rock fans started becoming the adults and parents of new teenagers
but that comment was totally interesting, shows that to some older generations, rock was still a kinda new thing in 1983. I'd have expected that from the 60s or maybe early 70s at latest
I remember this show, and the one right on the heels of Damn The Torpedoes a few years prior to this, when he was at the St Paul Civic Center Arena (not the main room)...nice piece of history!!! Thx for the upload (I am born, raised and live in Mpls)....this reminds me of going down to the caves....anyone from here in the 70's knows what I am talking about...if they are still alive, of course.
I was at the Civic center Arena show. They were at the top of their game that night. They all moved like tigers and sang like birds. Great memories.
'I want them (the audience) to have a good time....I DON'T want them to KILL me'!
Yeah that was kind of how I felt. Let's have a good time but don't kill me in the process. Mercifully he outlived that. RIP Tom
I saw Tom at Winterland and he threw himself into the audience. He still had microphone on and definitely was enjoying being grabbed by everyone. Security was in a frenzy and finally got him back on stage after about 5 minutes. Petty forever ❤️
No, you can see it in the video that someone literally grabbed one of his legs and into the 'mosh pit' he went. He has always said that it was one of the most frightening experiences in his life (and this coming from a man that was brutally abused by his father since he was 5). He always felt lucky that he only lost his vest and some buttons on his shirt. There were people who were literally trying to take a finger off as a souvenir. He learned two things that night: a) that a hot audience can be a very dangerous thing and b) don't stand quite so close to said hot audience! :-)
The video I saw...don't know which concert....but he was too close to the edge of the stage and looked like he fell because of a misstep and the fans caught him and then the video was cut. He was literally standing one minute and just dropped out of sight the next.
They caught him and broke his fall but that was all the video really showed. It looked like the audience was as surprised as Tom Petty was seeing the look on his face and kind of a smile and that was it. This must have been a different show because he definitely didn't deliberately throw himself
into the audience from what I saw. He was shy with strangers and this was when he was much younger....maybe around early
'80's. As long as he wasn't hurt.
Also, just reread your comment and he wasn't wearing a vest in the concert I referred to.
Man, I miss this guy already!😢
Who? Tom Petty or the host
Tom Petty...the host is cool too; didn't know he was dead?
The generation gap never hit Tom Petty. Legend!
He sounds just like Bob here. Nice 👍👍
yep
You had to be alive back then and follow TP & The HB's.
Then this interview makes all the sense in the world.
R.I.P. T.P.
Can't believe the interviewer was only freaking 35? He sounded 60 as out of touch he was. Every time I'm afraid of aging and getting uncool in my 30s, I'll watch this dork and immediately feel better! (I could never be as cool as Tom was though)
seems high but still coherent and insight.
This is hilarious..Tom being interviewed by a Minnesota local TV station and doing it in a Dylan impression and the interviewer never caught on. Petty and Dylan sound a little similar but not like this. Tom was having some fun here..
"....and probably for a few days thereafter"! Ha!
The host of this show is a total goober, good grief. Thankfully TP was higher than a kite so he was able to tolerate the whole thing, lol.
Laughing at your perfect comment! LOL! SO very true! God I love him and miss him so much XO
Speaking of goobers, look in the mirror.
Good 'ol friendly all around guy, Gary Lumpkin everybody, Gary Lumpkin.
Thanks johnny. Now here's a message from our sponcers..
Be still my heart.
Call Tom punk or new wave and he'll cut you
What a strange host.
He sounded like a square. I bet this show was aimed at middle age adults of that time (born in like 1930). It's weird how rock had been around for 25 years at the time and people that age still might've thought of it like "this newfangled rock and roll music these damn kids are listening to", lol.
"Gary, you're such a Lumpkin!"
Strange is putting it nicely Sandra 😁
...waaaaay too white guy/no azz kinda doood...and that 'Minneeesoohhtahh'accent next juxtaposed with Tom's inherent too cool for words nature just makes the UNcool doood stick out like a sore thumb...
Love it
Well, I was 32 in the 80s. You know we weren't squares. I like the doors. I live the blues. So you have to look at in relation to what was available for you at that time. Someday the music that you like will be considered "square.". Don't pitch yourself off a mountain top. That's what happens. It's no big deal.
He sounds a little like his hero Bob Dylan here.
Think that was the point, he was taking the piss out of the host and he didn't catch on lol
I love Tom Petty. I think he looks like David Wilcock.
...this totally UNcool/no-azz whiter than Edgar Winter doood's 'Minneeesoohhdah' -ness next to Tom's inherent natural Southern chawm is as glaring as a lime green plaid polyester jacket...:)!!
Tommy is real
Tom sang 'You Got Lucky' with a Mexican accent; its pretty cool.
petty sounded just like bob dylan here.
Hilarious!
Lumpkin the BLUMPKIN hahahaha
Tom is usually most eloquent, but I think it's safe to assume he wasn't at his most lucid here.
I think what he's saying is that it'd be a shame if Rock-&-Roll became institutionalized and subservient to the mundane fabrications of monopolizing interests rather than be willing to primally shout out against being swallowed up, broken down, and squeezed through as incorporated waste.
Basically, thinking of it now - as a great enthusiast of the Wilson lead Beach Boys - I see Tom Petty as the anti Mike Love. Tom would always run counter to the insticts of Mike, who arrogantly and continuously belabored to bully and undermine his band's artistry by veying for more safe homogenized pandering to trite commercialism - then would go around patting himself smugly on the back while weezeling for any and every way to compromise for a dollar. On the opposite spectrum, Tom was always concerned about remaining authentic to the motivation of his pure muse to move people, and do so with humble regard to the sacred pact of that relationship, so that neither he nor they should ever have their integrity trivalized or exploited toward the gain of any flip sham or quick scam. Their last names of Petty and Love are the epitome of ironic incongruity.
Tom Petty forever. 💘
I'm surprised by 1983 they were discussing rock like it was some brand new thing. The '50s rockabilly fans would've been parents of teenagers at the time, and even the 60s British Invasion youth was starting to become "the adults" and could've been parents to like 12 year olds at the time, so the generation gap talk seemed weird to me.
Then again this show looked like it was aimed at middle-aged and elderly people, so I guess that's why they were framing it that way.
What's interesting too is, it wasn't until Farm Aid and touring with Dylan (1985-86) and especially joining The Wilburys and Full Moon Fever (1988-89) that Tom began to be viewed as a more Middle America heartland rocker. In '83 he still kinda had that hard rock rebellious image, again especially to the older people of that time probably.
The whole idea of a 'generation gap' is passe today. And were people really worried about rock and roll with their kids then? This was done in 1983..think it's just Gary's own mindset.
totally, he seemed like a square, lol. Teens in the early '80s would've definitely had rockabilly 50s teen parents who were Elvis fans (some even probably had 60s hippie parents if they had them young) so rock shouldn't have been a big deal to someone born in like 1940 unless they were uptight religious or something.
@@xennial80sxberner absolutely My father was first generation Rock and Roll. He liked some of the stuff in the 80’s. I liked his music more than he did mine . I let my daughter control the music in the car. She has good taste as i gave some influence, and some of the stuff of today is ok..
Who was that guy with Tom Petty? What a maroon.
He was such a dork and I'm sure Tom thought so too lol. (At the end "Punk rock and new wave is here and I'm trying to figure out what that means.") Someone else said they got a Mormon vibe from him and I could see that.
LOL. This guy had no clue who Tom was ! Hilarious! A bunch of old ladies in the audience. LMAO
"gary lumpkin"...??? come on now... for real?
I never realized how bad his teeth were
Later on you could see that he had some good dental work done. In the beginning he even had some teeth missing. The dentists made him pretty adorable in his 30's. RIP our dear Tom Petty.