Crashing a CNC Machine on Purpose!!!
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- Crashing a Doosan CNC Mill on purpose. What's your thoughts?
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The boss if the crash prevention system failed: 😐
The boss when he realizes he can get reimbursed or sue Doosan for far more
Him recording was just in case of lawsuit
Imaging taking a company the size of doosan to court
Well, it's kinda nice but when designing this they didn't consider the absolute joy of all of the lights in the entire shop dimming for a second with that sound announcing your failure to everyone in the building. Or spending the next hour trying to figure out how to get that thing unstuck, because it crashed so hard it just refuses to move to any direction.
So you have heard about me ..... Word travels fast I see 😂
By the way... When changing tool 7 and 6... Remember when touching off which tool you are setting at that moment..... I knew I was 100 percent correct....
1" face mill pounded into side of part and bent fixture on tombstone... Yes it's a horizontal..... Yes I was new.... yes I cried😢.... lol
When you blow the hv fuse for the whole industrial block
I machine brass parts for water services. Boring bars and face off tools getting gummed up in the brass is real fun
Bro ive crashed some big lathes and ive never cried haha. Just got that well fuck feeling
its donnie from titans of cnc!
It is!
Aww yeah!
@donniehinske love your content on titans bro! Big fan from Cali central coast
Every college needs these lol we got new CNC milling machines at my school my 1st year. By 3rd year, i was using the old manual machines because all the new ones were messed up and couldn't hold positions or tolerances cause of all the slop in the machines from being crashed 100 times lol
If you're learning to be a machinist then fix the slop, what happens in the field when you have a sloppy machine? Give up?
@@humblecognition7766I blame their teacher/school, they are students learning how to use the machine how are they going to know how to fix the machine 😂
But I do see your point and totally agree! -Fellow Machinist
@portcityengineering yeah I'm 18 and we were taught the operations of lathe and mill, but when the lathe got messed up they had me and another kid fix it cause I was one of the only other guys who cared to self teach himself about the machines and how to repair them, now I'm onto teaching myself cnc work,
ive crashed my huge lathe and it will absolutely crush any tool or tool holder we have in the shop, it has 0 give up built in
same. tho mine just shoots the part at you afterwards as like a spit in the face. extra disrespect.
my cincinatti has 10hp X and Z servos and a 50hp spindle, everything is a tool , even when it goes wrong lol
@@seancollins9745 Im not sure what HP the servos are but on the lathe I run the spindle is a 150 HP DC motor on a ABB drive it has 17 belts going from the motor to the head stock gearbox. its a brute.
How'd you crash the lathe? Run the tooling in the chuck?
@@jakobwhaley5641 no, Ive put the wrong program in which had a totally different 'max diameter' from the touch off point and it ran the tool into the part ripping it out of the tool post and ruining the tool post clamp.
Haas has that and it wouldnt of even bent the round stock....
yea but it slowed the rapids down a lot
plus it only works in rapid moves i think this works in feed moves too
@@cyber2526 exactly sir,you're right
If the current old 2014 Haas Vf3 Vertical mill I run. You would have to be a major screwon. Trust
On our dmg 75evo it does stop at the slightest bit of deflection or instant loadm
Z-25. 💀💀💀
Trying to send it through the floor
Full send
was G91 not G90. so it's from top of z plain not part 0. :p
It's not the same when you use 16mm carbide cutter. Talon you use in this example is soft😁
I work on these for a living, I'm sure your guy loves having to deal with these shenanigans
Do it with a 4” facemill. Or do it with the spindle alone..
Donnie cameo!
This was a few years back. Loved working there! Dynamic was a fun job
Good to know 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Smart. And machines will get smarter. Eventually they'll have enough awareness of everything inside the work envelope that crashes will be essentially impossible.
Until you have a fuckup in the surface data and the tool tries to get to a place it has to get to to follow its program but absolutely cannot
AI camera based systems are coming
yeah i cant fucking wait to check my machine because some sensor feeling funny today and put an emergency stop every 5min....
we got those laser tool probs (looks fancy but suck dick) and you cant even messure tools constantly because sometimes it just doesnt register it or the coolant take ages to stop dripping.
better just watch your programm and never go 100% feedrate
If that had been an endmill and not stock, that would have been insane.
I crashed Robodrills before. The tool goes in a tad bit more and then breaks, but it saves the spindle atleast.
The newer Doosan mill 100% rapid is a joke.
I was looking for this commment. So that was honestly 100%? You're right, that's an absolute joke.
That's not 100% I run a Mynx 950 (huge vertical!) It's rapids were set to 12M/min. We also have a new DNM 750 that has 30M/min rapids. This was maybe 15 at a push so I would say it's 50%
the lynx rapid is ridiculous for such a small machine i accidentally rapid to x0.0 with my cutoff tool
I just know that hurt the spindle
Did you notice how hard it looked for him to spin that spindle by hand? Something ain't right.
@85CEKR the berrings gone 😭😄 everyone wants to run a cnc as fast as possible,but fr that just adds unnecessary wear and tear to the drive assemblies and rails.
I tend to run machines at conservative feeds and speeds to avoid crashes like this.
A few of my freinds went in on a big ass HAAS for their shop they have, I never did run it as fast as possible. It's scary when you do 😂
If it's not production, speed isn't really a big deal. I have a shitty machine for home use, so I definitely can't afford to crash it 😂
@RoboArc your exactly right, I have a small machine shop with a few lathes and mills all okuma's, we do mainly low production and even though our machines can do anything you see online, there's just no point. As an example we have ongoing family of part that we do. They all have a set up on the lathes with 5-10 minutes of roughing on a 30min cycle time. We run them at 400sfm and the kyocera insert we run will literally cut for days. We've had multiple salesman come and give us inserts to run at 1000-1300 sfm they work great for a few parts but then they blow up. When it come down to it running at 400 sfm non-stop for 2 or 3 days is just better. Changing an insert takes at minimum 3-5 mins, longer if the operator is busy doing something else and everytime an insert goes you have a chance of wreaking the toolholder, we use the coolant thru ones so your taking 3-400 bucks.
Slow and steady wins the race
Is this system using a pressure transducer to stop it during collision?
Imagine crash testing a machine and nobody has safety glasses on.
Not being a safety nazi, but I would say least wear some protection if I was crashing my machine.
Shut up
I’m not a big safety glasses guy but when something may very well break like tapping or little endmills on my non inclosed cnc or shit it’s time to break the glasses out. Crashing on purpose definitely falls into that category 😂
Would be awesome let the CNC spindle crash to the table
oh no the poor spindle
If G0 is that slow, my mazak would have no problems....wait, it has no problems even with a much higher speed.
Für was die G 91? Unotig frisst nur speicher.😁
understand if you don't now or have ever worked with this machinery it means Jack Sqaut
Boss had enough of your shit 😂
So we just gave up on safety glasses? Hmm
🤓☝️MDI stands for manual data input
always wondered what that means..
Is that Donnie Hinske ? 🧐
Looks like an aluminum shaft and not a real enmill... thats wayy different
Z+ I would say😂
That's funny and cool and all until you guys need to call service and they send a tec only to be handed a bill for about 20K minimum for new spindle after they pull the history on this machine and even better when they see this video
Huh? If you set you Z offset incorrectly that shit will crash bad!!
проехала больше чем 25мм значет в дюймах.
You can stay far away from my mills and vises.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes
Maybe it's just me, but that's pretty slow for full rapid.
I don't care what you pay me i would never do that 😢.
Hahaha its funny and funnier when getting a bill and probably losing the job
Lol. Workers in my shop, experienced machinists destroyed a lot of machines. They still work, but 5 axis are out of their field of tolerance. B axis on one has 0.02mm of slope and that is a lot. Can not be fixed, that is the best outcome. It will only get worse. 3 lathes are also beyond repair. A couple of guys got fired, but most of them are still working. Mistakes happen. If you don't have money for a repair, do everything by yourself. 6 machines can be productive by one person, the owner. And if you want to work, then you need to take a risk with other people. I am working with 24 haas, 8 hurco mills. I have also done things. That new project, 16 brand new shunk hydro lock tool holders, carbide tools, new 5 axis haas. And I am working on that for 1100 euros.😂😂
M3S10000G00G91x10.0Z-25.0 Rapid 100% would have been way cooler too see.
With a 6” steel cutter
@@calebpope4664
Make it interesting and get a massive shell mill.
G 0 z-10😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Seem city
Majority of doosans are crap
G00- Rapid positioning “Moving at high speed to get to a certain place”
G91- Incremental programming
-z25.- Tool going down negative for down positive for up.
How do they make machines this expensive yet fail to add crash prevention like this to every single one on just put some fucking force sensors in there and set a cutoff limit.
Or you could just know what you are doing and observe things like distance to go. Maybe even use a cam system that has machine sim
Or you could not be a smarty pants and see the title of the video.
Mistakes happen
@@josipkasalo70 yeah, making money includes crashing a machine on purpose.
@@cyber2526 mistakes on purpose only happen for clicks on social media
@@AV-the-machinist thats not what i was talking about