How to Paint Rusted Natural Gas Pipes
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2019
- Gas meters are usually attached to your house with a bare iron pipe that will quickly become rusty if left unprotected. In this video I show the right way to fix rusty gas pipes, including properly removing the rust, prepping and painting the pipe so it will never rust again. If you are interested in painting metal pipes, need to know how to remove rust, prevent rust, or stop corrosion on an iron pipe, check out how easy the process really is.
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Plumbing job looks like Houston Texas style, you should see the electrical wiring, plumbing, tv cable wiring, Internet line by AT&T at my house. All of these done the lazy way and not up to code on any of those services. Also underground gas lines throughout the property, we're lucky the damn house hasn't exploded, burned down, or flooded inside.
I’m continually amazed by the utter sloppiness of many contractors.
How come you didn't go through and inspect it prior to buying it ? Didn't you get an inspector to look at it? You must of seen all of this before you put your John Hancock signature oh that's not your name !
You didn't know what those yellow flags meant in the backyard ( if I'm not mistaken they are in a utility easement that is part of your property that you are paying the tax man in property taxes ) before having contractor remove them at your add cost to build your mansion?
Does Texas have housing codes?
@@GarrettMoffitt they do have codes but contractors are sloppy and cut corners everywhere they can, and on top of that crooked city inspectors that'll do anything for a buck.
The wife: Hey, Hon, have you seen my white kitchen towels with the green stripes? I could have sworn they were in this drawer!
"They were right next to the ones with blue stripes."
These comments are underrated. XD
16 year old me: I'm going to be partying it up in my 30's
Me in my 30's: I'm going to watch this video on how to repair my rusty gas pipe.
I was literally just saying this to my wife and then I see this comment... Glad I’m not alone
SAME! LOL!
Same here. My wife thinks I'm crazy for watching Roger Wakefield plumbing videos(which led me here) when I don't even need to repair anything.
This made me look over my shoulder
Look at us…who would have thought. Not me
Master Gasfitter here. Who ever installed the gas line was lazy. There are 5 times as many spots for potential leaks. Also there is no need for Teflon tape on gas line, a little bit of pipe dope for lubrication is all that is needed. Threads on pipe are tapered and provide the seal.
Great job on the rust removal and painting.
Thank you! Several other commenters have suggested I really should replace this with a single pipe instead, as a safety precaution. What are your thoughts? Leave sleeping dogs lie, or get in there and do it right?
If it were mine I'd hit it with some bubbles to see if there are any leaks. If not, leave it. If so, I personally would stab a single piece of pipe in it.
While Teflon tape cannot get into all the tiny voids it does create a good mechanical seal. Pipe dope on the other hand does get into those voids, but breaks down and dries out over time and exposure to the elements. The superior method is Teflon tape with pipe dope.
It needs more fittings, I got a fever and the only prescription is more fittings
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All I could think of, was Curly in the bathtub!
HYSTERICAL!!! From SNL!!!! LOVE IT!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’d hire this guy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The 1st answer is that at one time (located between the two 90s there was a water/trash trap in the line. It was removed and replaced with a straight nipple. It should be placed back in line. Second, please never recommend someone use a steel brush, power tool or any other a ignition source around a gas line. I worked in the gas industry for ten years( liquid propane , and natural gas). The gas regulator or the plumbing may have a leak. If you must clean the plumbing use emery cloth. Any wide strip of sanding belt / tape can be used to clean that pipe safely . No tools needed. Then clean the pipe with rubbing alcohol and prime/ paint it. There are plenty of rust adhering paints so no need use a rust converter. Depending on the tape or compound used you could find out you started a bunch of leaks by applying acid based chemicals to all those joints you noticed in the pipe .This is gas work, get a gas guy/girl to at least draw your advice from. Safety 1st.
I was thinking the same thing. I have a long gas line to clean and paint and I did NOT like the idea of using a drill with wire brush on it. Thanx for the advice.
@@shwndh
Not only that but any acid will eat away Teflon. If I was this guy I would really rethink about editing this video or redoing it all another way cause acid is bad around gas. Could be a bad chemical reaction of some sorts.
Nice job on the video. Very informative and helpful. Excellent commentary as well.
I’m dealing with rusty window lintels here in North Texas and I’ve been looking for a step by step how to on this subject for days. This helped me tremendously!Thank you
Thirty years ago I painted a rusty water pipe in my then damp basement. The only prep work I did was to wipe the dust off of the pipe. It took longer to stir the pint of Rust-Oleum paint than it did to paint the pipe and it still looks good to this day.
@yea bouy how is that fake news? I did the same thing with the cast iron sewer pipes in my house using oil based Rustoleum paint. That was in the early 90’s and they still look pretty good. I’m guessing you’re a Trump supporter so anything you disagree with is fake news. Don’t worry, very soon we won’t need to hear that stupidity anymore.
If you had to paint a water pipe, you have the wrong kind of pipe.
@@bigrick7108 Errr, no. Water pipes can be made of steel.
@@Pro1er A long time ago galvanized was acceptable. That is no longer permitted in new construction or remodel.
@@bigrick7108 And that's why I said it was 30 years ago.
Very nicely done- and also so very informative! One of the nicest DIY videos I've viewed! Thanks so much!
He seems very sweet. ❤
You're a real "Handyman" a job well done.
Nice work - very thorough!
Great video, excellent step through on how to perform the task. Thanks for including the mistake on the overspray, it helps to explain why we need extra paint and cardboard when things don't go as planned. Good to show what options there are when doing this task. Good job!!
Glad it was helpful!
Just a helpful tip. Some gas companies will actually spray your meter and pipes FOR YOU. I needed mine done and called my gas company and they are coming out at no cost. I could even pick the color! Great video.
This is a great tip! I did check with my local gas company, and they only paint up to to and including the meter. From the meter into the house is the homeowners responsibility. Thanks for watching!
Couple things....check for leaks prior to work, use only brass tools for removing rust, and check after for leaks.
Thanks you for the safety tips! These CZcams videos can be very dangerous. I see important items left out all the time!
@The Magic Hispanic not always true. Yes the gas should have odorant but if some weird instance it didn’t you need to take that into consideration.
I am using the wire brush attach,ent that isn’t brass, is this going to be okay?
@@jackeroo75 No! Brass only!
Even if I use brass wire wheel (if there is such a thing) does the little motor of the drill create any sparks that could be dangerous if there is an undetected leak? Thank you very much and Jesus bless.
Thank you for the video. Lil details like this improve the look of your house
Very nicely done..the pipe looks great afterwards.
You did a Great Job! Thank you for sharing!
Good job. Quality counts!
You are a gentleman its good to see well mannered people in these times of mafia minded ones - the video is excellent Sir ! from India with regards.
Agree 100%. Thanx for pointing that out
Nice work cleaning up the rusty eye sore. Thanks for sharing your tips.
just what I was looking for. Installed DIY propane range in a all electric house and want to protect the 10' black pipe running along the outside of house. the primer and paint is what I was look for. Great job cleaning up that rusty black pipe.
Thanks, falcon!
Looks like a good application for rust converter.
I think 3 couplings isn't enough. Should have gone with 6.
Probably could have fit even more than 6 if they really tried.
maybe they just really liked screwing around. lol
I'm surprised he just didn't grab a yellow stainless flex gas line to connect between the meter and the pipe sticking out of the wall. Actually he might have been better off than the mess he created, although the Gas Code might not allow it.
Surprised he didn’t cram a union in there as well
@@markh.6687 No. Flex stainless is not allowed exposed outside.
That looks fantastic!!!
Came across your video. Detail friendly. I've subscribed. Thx for your help 👍
Great, something else I didn't know I needed to do around my house. DOH!
Look around for rotting wood too. That’s another job that pops up unexpectedly. 🤦♂️
As we drove through the development I said to the wife and kids and that a pretty painted gas line on that house but what's up with all those extra fittings. Bwahaha
Great tutorial! Thanks
Great video. I need to do my gas line. Thanks for sharing.
Every joint has a chance of leakage, so in this case they cobbled together line of 6 extra joints increases the probability of leakage three fold compared compared to a single, two joint pipe…the least number of joints in a fluid/gas system should be the goal. Additionally each joint introduces corrosion issues.
Finally, there is no substitute for the tradesman/craftsman who has the knowledge and will/pride to do the job correctly or even to a higher standard, when no one is looking. For these, building inspectors are not needed, and just slow down their work.
Haha. But the other million incompetents is why we need codes and inspectors. This guy probably has a associates degree from tech college because no apprentice programs available since unions are gone and scabs not willing to share minimal knowledge they possess. Looked like brilliant solution to millenial
@@3mtech
I agree completely with you on the need for building inspectors (ie Quality Control/Quality Insurance).
Firstly inspectors are necessary because “You just don’t know what you don’t know” and secondly and more commonly, because there are just a lot of shoddy workers (no training, no insurance, no certification, no license, no integrity) drawing paychecks while defrauding their clients.
We have to have inspectors precisely because people don’t do their job correctly. My only point is that a craftsman with high standards is a magnificent and rare creature who doesn’t require an inspector except for legal certification, his/work speaks for itself (I was a Navy Electrician and nuclear operator for 40 years...believe me I agree with you- I’ve seen it all 😂😡)
The uploader of this video failed to notice The elephant in the comment section 😁
I'm a retired journeyman steamfitter. That's a terrible job! A first year apprentice would be fired for such work. 3 ft. of black pipe, a pipe cutter, reamer and hand dies and in 15 minutes you would have a professional job without those expensive couplings.
So true. People don’t take pride in their work anymore it’s about money, and that’s sad. Quality of work should always be first, customer satisfaction second, money last.
Great video. Easy to understand and very detailed. Great job!!!! It was a big help to me
Great to hear!
Nice prep work prep is everything very good informative video thank you for sharing
Its actually more work and more money for all those fittings. Pretty sure the installer didnt want to make a trip for a straight pirce of pipe.... which is available everywhere.
true, and most plumbers or anyone laying pipe will tell you the more connections, the more chance you have of a leak after the repair or in the future !
probably he couldve fine one in the neighbours bin
Any half decent plumber should have some longer lengths of straight iron pipe in the van that can be cut to length and threaded onsite as needed.
I'm wondering how that passed a gas inspection. OTOH I shouldn't after some of the abortions I've cleaned up.
If the outside plumbing looks like that what must the interior look like?
@@TheOcculus I cant imagine that was ever inspected.
After cleaning the rust off, use International Paint Interbond 600. It’s a marine epoxy that will seal in any rust left so you’ll never see rust coming up again. Been using that for years in the ship repair industry with great success. Light sanding when cured and apply top coat of your choice. If you use another epoxy as a top coat, you’ll never paint it again.
Wow just like the other comments when piping with gas you plan the job to have a minimal amount of fittings to minimize the chances of any leaks.
I’m surprise that the gas company turned on the meter for the customer. If I was from the gas company I would say no gas until those fittings are replaced.
Thank you for doing this video it’s informative as to what someone should not do in reference to gas piping.
Pretty neat, well done bro👍👍👍
I was going to say something sarcastic, but you seem to be such a nice guy that I'll keep my big fat mouth shut and say, nice video instead.
He must have got paid by the fitting!
That's half the point Dapper Dan... you can't fix it if there ain't no problem!
Good job. I painted my meter to match my house. My utility does not mind... just keep sending them a check every month .
Thanks for the great instructions
Never in my life would I use 3 couplings on one measure
If I lived near this guy I would have had to stop by and replaced that pipe myself. It would drive me nuts having to look at it.
The whole neighborhood probably has the same set up.
Talk. Where is the walk
Great job. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for a very normal project around a home...rusted pipe needing to be cleaned up and painted. You were saying lazy but I wondered if he was drinking. Kept thinking one more piece would reach.... Or was accumulating too many short pieces and figured he could dump them on an unsuspecting customer.
Beautiful job well done. I am cleaning a propane tank and want to prime and repaint...do the job well. So thank you for your information and example. Jesus bless.
Thanks 👍
Very good job. I couldn't have done any better myself. I even used the same paint. I thought I was the only person this anal about how things look. :)
Using extra water to wash away the rust remover also helps neutralise the acid, which doesn't get rid of the chemicals but does make it less harsh on anything that it rinses onto.
Nice job, thanks. I have to do the same for my feed into/out of the Generac.
Great job! So informative. This was surprisingly satisfying to watch. 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Plumber was as smart as a fox!
You see, he was getting paid by the fitting! Lol 😁😂
LOL!
Knock down rust with wire brush. Brush on Rustoleum Stops Rust with disposable chip brush. How I did mine.
Great job!
Used the same technique on my house. Looks great. Thanks
Great to hear!
Plumber probably used all his cut-off pieces for your meter.
Mine was probably the last job of his day. :-(
This was exactly what I was gonna say, plumber was lazy didn't want to go get the right size pipe.
Plumber? Haha
@@warrwarrwarrwarr thats probably it exactly...
When youre doing alot of jobs, iou carry a pipe cutting and threading machine. These mobile units cant thread short pieces like those. Those are from a nipple run which is just a p pack of nipples from 1/2"through 6". From the looks of it this was a DIY install probably not done by a plumber. A offering would have used one coupling. Also, the union used at the merger is a dire electric union and is not the proper one for natural gas. It is the act same one you will see installed on top of your water heater. It's actually a really bad installation that only a home owner would do imho.
Really great tutorial! I'm in an apartment complex and the gas pipe coming out of my wall has rusted. For some reason the pipe is exposed about almost a foot before it connects to the valve. I've been thinking of ways to remove the rust and this video did it!
Awesome! So glad it was helpful!
A little late in attacking your statement it's really the maintenance man's job to take care of that , just think he got to spend some more time to finish his refreshment while you do his job.
vinegar / sandpaper . Smooth then prep surface with Rustoleum primer. Wipe off all dust before priming. Then apply Rustoleum paint with brush not spray can. Put cardboard under pipe while painting for a clean job. I was not able to get 100% of the pipe done but I don't like to hang around gas pipes too long in case of gas leaks. I too had rusty pipes.
@@wilhavtawaite48 Plumbers don't paint. You do. LMAO.
@@GeorgeMinton-jb8ky you are so absolutely right I'll get his ass out there and finish his job ...
Such a great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Rust Reformer chemically changes the iron oxide into some type of phosphate that doubles as a primer and would have saved you the naval jelly and primer steps. Phosphoric acid does basically the same thing, but is more caustic to surrounding metals/materials and needs more care in the application process. There is also rust converter that leaves behind a latex coating that acts as a primer coat.
@@noanyobiseniss7462 Yep, phosphoric acid does basically the same thing.
Some rust converter chemicals actually convert the rust to a chemically stable form of iron, not just depositing a coating on the surface. The chemical conversion is a superior process for this reason. Putting latex over rust means it will fail to adhere, and not stop the rust. I worked for a coatings company, and saw adhesion failures of latex coatings on automotive sheet metal. The modern super-primers and rusty metal primers use a lot of chemistry to stop the rust, bond with surfaces, and provide a stable surface for final painting/coating.
I use phosphoric acid then a 99% zinc cold galvanizing primer. Depending what it is epoxy primer next then paint. The phosphoric acid etches the metal. So technically don't need the etch primer. I use etch primer on new clean metal mostly
You still have to remove loose rust. A quick pass with the steel brush is not a bad idea.
Isn't navel jelly also a rust transformer?
wanna know what would been some good stuff to use to is Por-15 Rust Preventive Coating you can paint right over it too.. But came out amazing
There's also a dual rust convertor with primer spray on. He could have saved himself a step!
Great work....!
Good job! I'm going to do this to mine. Thank you.
Good luck!
I wish you were my neighbor, I can’t get mine to even mow their lawn half the time! 😂
Great video 👍🏻
Amazing!! Tip. Thanks 😊
Likely he didn’t bother setting up the pipe threader or didn’t have one and just got nipples from home depot. Just purchased my first home, and let me tell you, production builders are s**t. The days of good long lasting quality homes are gone. Now you pay premium for poor quality home build with builder seller driving a Porsche.
I always say, "you can screw it up yourself, or pay someone else to do it!" ;-)
@@buixote exactly! I do my own repairs and learn from my mistakes. It’s free and educational 🙂
Some years ago in Will County, IL there was a criminal case involving the County building inspectors. My uncle was a consulting inspector that was hired to review some of the issues. There were brand new homes being 'red tagged' as Unsafe for Occupancy because the builders failed to do things like build the load-bearing walls correctly. Homes were torn down, and inspectors and at least one builder went to prison by the end of it for bribery/fraud/theft.
@@katylucyb1 100% it’s been rewarding and therapeutic working on house projects. There’s just something about going through the thinking process and execution of a repair or upgrade not to mention the “oh, wait I didn’t think that through” moments. Also, If I end up selling the house, it makes me feel better that I made it better.
The general contractor hires the plumber that will do the least expensive job. That plumber then cuts corners (hopefully with code) to make the job profitable for them. It's not always the case but I've seen plenty of crap jobs.
A way to avoid having to use that naval jelly is to just spray Rustoleum Rust Reformer (flat black) paint instead. I have used it on rusty areas of my truck and the rust never came back even without using a top coat of paint.
Nice job!
Great job
I would have liked to see a closeup after the Naval Jelly. I never thought of using that though. THanks for the video.
That siding (cap) is a terrible job. Should be addressed before the rust.
Would have been better to just have a hole in the wall. My guess is they damaged the siding when drilling the hole and had to cover the mess.
Looks great
Thanks!
Nice video man.
“Plumber” using up leftover short pieces or DIY without pipe threader. “Free” compared to correct length.
He had lego on the brain.
Excellent work
Thank you! Cheers!
thanks for the video. You did amazing job.
Glad you liked it, Duc!
You should have painted each one of those couplers a different color, that would have been cool.
And put smiley face stickers on each section.
Paint the pipes orange and couplings white.
I like to mask off the info plates and clear screen with the dials and then shoot the whole thing to match the body color of the house, these eyesores tend to blend right in when they match the house.
I do the same thing but I like to use a hotdog roller to really get lots of primer and paint around the whole fitting and into all of the threads. It seals up real nice like that.
Good job and thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Good job... SIR.
Wipe down water and baking soda to get rid of naval jelly (neutralizes the acid)
I have no tools like that but my kitchen is fully equipped - How about attaching steel scrubbing pads to my hand mixer...? 😆
We've got no time for kinky stuff; we're trying to maintain the property! :)
@@markh.6687 lol 😆
😅
beautiful work
Thank you very much!
I work for the biggest gas utility in the northeast . We use krylon primer gray color for our gas lines . Matches pretty good to the American meter company paint
I don't know if anyone else commented on this but there is a yellow color teflon tape to be used on gas connections. Looks like the installer used regular teflon tape on the threads.
Looks like blue monster tape.
Quick tip: When you are removing the rust out of the pipe and using a wire brush make sure to not rub it where the joint is because if you remove the Teflon or cut it like you did in the video there is a very good chance you can cause a leak because literally what make the joint is the Teflon at the end of the joint that has been tighten. If using a wire brush I recommend buying a leak detector chemical (any hardware store should stick a little 8oz bottle) and check for leaks that could have been caused ( you don't have to clean it since it doesn't rust the metal) or use soap and water to check it ( if using this method I recommend wiping it off since it could rust since using water any weak spots).
I'm a plumber, the plumber who did this was lazy in fabricating the correct length of pipe so he just used his nipple caddy and couplers to finish the job. I always try to use the minimum amount of joints when doing anything plumbing. It's a win win for the plumber and homeowner, the plumber does not spend as much money with joint and the home owner doesn't have to many potential leak points in the future.
Why by leak detector liquid from hardware store you have the best liquid for leak detection under kitchen sink dish washing soap mx with water brush on find leaks simple
some say that the tape doesn't so much seal the pipe but act like a lubricant to allow the pipes to be fully tightened together. I doubt a plumber would use Teflon on a gas pipe. usually Teflon for gas is yellow anyways. often plumbers use "pipe dope" or "thread compound". I actually asked a friend of mine who is a life long union pipe fitter and he seemed to agree that it's to allow the pipe to slip as they screw together as pipe thread is tapered and "self sealing". it's never been MY experience but, that's what they say. lol so if it were to seal, it would only be the Teflon or dope in the joint that sealed, not outside the joint so removing it wouldn't or shouldn't be a problem.
@@frotobaggins7169 I was about to make similar comments. I have never heard or read anywhere about Teflon tape (or pipe dope/thread compound) being a sealer. The threads on the piping should be tapered. The taper is what produces the seal.
The tape or compound acts as a lubricant during assembly and disassembly. It also prevents corrosion during the life of the connection. It should be reapplied any time the joint is loosened or disconnected before reconnecting.
@@wilhavtawaite48 Some soaps or detergents can be acidic and corrode the joint over time, possibly resulting in a leak. A leak detection solution is best to avoid such a circumstance.
@@pvman2 yep just think what dem hand dish washing acids are doing to wife's pretty soft hands and or YOURS eating the crap out of them....
Very helpful.
Excellent job
Thank you very much!
Could've used mild solution of baking soda to neutralize the acid.
The installer had to make up a 22 inch center to center run of 1" pipe. That means cutting and threading a 20" piece of pipe(20 1/4 really but he just used two 6", two 3" nipples along with three 1" couplings) While it makes the job so much easier than setting up a pipe threader it does offer a lot of places for a leak to appear. Kind've sad when you total up the cost's of the four threaded nipples and three couplings versus just threading a 20 1/4 in piece of pipe.
Great video.
Thanks!
Good job
Wouldn't you want to use a rust converter on natural gas lines? Converting iron oxide to iron phosphate not only doesn't leave you with a pitted surface but the iron phosphate makes a great primer for the paint...
You certainly can use a rust converter. I just preferred doing it this way. These pipes were not deeply pitted, and the final finish is excellent.
navel jelly is a rust converter, it convert iron oxide into iron phosphate.
Making sparks with the steel brush, what can go wrong?
I normally look for a gas leak with a lighter. Fastest way to find a leak, I just don't recommend it unless you just installed the pipe and are just testing for leaks after a job.
@@maddog12186 😂
Thanks for the lesson, I'll purchase the Naval Jelly, primer, and smoke gray rustoleum.
Get that rust gone!
nice job!
I would have skipped the Naval Jelly and would have applied Hamerite directly. Any surface rust left on the pipe would have been transformed into a sealing coating. The result would have been equal imo.
Great result though.
Yeah, I thought about using a rust transformer, but decided to go this route instead. I agree the results likely would have been the same. Thanks for watching!
This rust was really easy to remove, but I'm still stumped about why the plumber would have put this mess of pipes together in this way in the first place.
First thing I noticed when I started the video were the connectors. My guess would be that he didn’t have a longer peace because with all the connectors your setup is probably even more expensive than just a straight pipe. Let alone the extra work.
@@Conservator. That's my assumption as well. The funny thing is: had the gas pipe inside the house been measured and cut to the right length in the first place, it would have come out of the wall of the house much closer to the meter. All my neighbors only have a very short (say, 4") pipe from the meter to the house.
If he didn't have a threader and had to use pieces sold at the hardware store prethreaded maybe.
You are supposed to do that anually, unless you build a cover. Then you would never have to worry about that again.
All coming from a guy with a rusty gas pipe, who was you tubin it up to see best ways.
Good vid man.
Edward Buti
A plumber without a threader? 🤣
Probably couldn’t read a rule 😮 If the fitter was a woman, it would explain everything. Her helper called out 18” and she eyeballed it. Can I say that here? Not a dig on women, but they have been lied to about the length of an inch by men their entire life. 😂 I mean really, is there a better explanation? I think not.
Great job.
Thanks!
Very helpful video.
Glad you think so, Joni!
You don't have to do all that extra work, you can spray rust olliem right over it
IKR Think anyone preps black iron before paint?
@@u2mister17 nope