NYU professor Suzy Welch on 'lazy girl jobs' trend: A strong desire to avoid anxiety at all costs
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2023
- Suzy Welch, NYU Stern School of Business professor, joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the latest Gen Z 'Lazy Girl Jobs' career trend going viral on TikTok, where it favors low-stress jobs that favor more work-life balance, the underlying reasons behind the trend, and more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: cnb.cx/2NGeIvi
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It's weird that they don't understand people not wanting to fritter their lives away working for soulless corporations.
Exactly! This phenomenon is not about NOT working hard, it's at the core about work- life BALANCE in the end. Slaving away for a corporation CANNOT become the priority of your life. You work to live, not live to work (which is a formula for exploitation this capitalist system is based on that gen Z is no longer accepting.)
I get it that people don't want to work soulless corporations, neither do i...But we can't start doing nothing and having absolute no sense of responsibility to society.
Soulless corporations still create jobs, jobs that feed families! They feed also my family!
We need to get out of this nihilistic way of thinking!
@@GoedelingThePrime You COMPLETELY misunderstand what these people are saying. It is NOT about "doing nothing". It is about WORK LIFE BALANCE..not allowing yourself to be EXPLOITED by giving your whole life to a corporation, as many generations BEFORE have been indoctrinated into accepting. DON'T GET IT TWISTED! I am GEN X and I understand what these young folks are trying to accomplish, but so many have drunk the exploitative capitalist kool aide, THEY REFUSE to see that a change in our lives vis a vis work NEEDS to change. That is one of the gifts of this pandemic we have just experienced.
@@GoedelingThePrimeok let's start with corporations sharing more profits with workers end the nihilism
@@jacobnapkins1155 This would be a good start, but it won't be enough.
Pls don't forget our western civilization has adversaries with more work ethic. We have to protect out domestic market!
"Just take a $60-80,000 job" - Do you ever feel like you're a lot effing poorer than you think when some kid can "just get a $60-80,000 job"? As if they're talking about working at McDonalds?
Alternatively, working at McDonalds is hard af. Always standing, moving, dealing with customers, hot & greasy environment. Not a great comparison. Idk about you but wouldn't sign up to work 40+hr/week at McDs for $60-80k.
@@watson457 You missed his point. He wasn't comparing workloads. He was comparing the apparent ease at which these kids can just pick up a $60-80k job as if it was just a part-time side hustle. I know exactly what he means. I'm 48 years old and I never had an employer pay me that much. Yet, she described the hypothetical job as one they would just work a few hours, check-in, then check-out. Apparently employers are now paying young workers upper-middle class wages to work part-time. How do I get one of those jobs???
Have we stopped to think these kids get these jobs because they're college educated?? Also, when we adjust for inflation the pay is actually less. From experience, a bachelor's degree always increases our pay. It is not a new phenomenon. The way I see it. If a person has the discipline and knowledge to make it through college with a bachelor's and a master's degree. They deserve their higher pay for slaving through school and putting in those dues. If we didn't, we'll continue running on a different hamster wheel then the rest.
@@caramela4830 What's stupid about "a bachelor's degree will increase your pay" is that you're comparing someone with something vs someone with nothing. So if only 5% of people benefit from a degree, you can claim it increases pay. But you need to talk about the cost of the degree and how it negatively affects those who get one.
@@caramela4830 I did not get the impression that she was talking about adult professionals with Master's Degrees.
As an Elder Millennial, I get not wanting to remain at these soul-crushing jobs. After more than a decade of really horrible work experiences and being called a job hopper because I can't take the abuse, I can say the corporate world isn't for many people. However, I agree with the panel on anxiety. It's called life. Some younger people need to build stronger coping skills.
Ter ansiedade não é frescura!!!
I agree. People tend to conflate anxiety disorder with just stress and adulting. If you’re not sweating by just standing worrying, or waking up with extreme nausea or getting tense out of no where (while still being medicated) then you don’t have anxiety disorder.
I think a lot of people are missing the point here, these people are talking about just having a job and not necessarily pursuing a career. It’s just going to work, doing your hours and going home. It’s ok to not want to take on more responsibilities or manage people it’s ok to work for money just for survival and use your personal time to develop skills and attributes that are unrelated to earning money. It’s ok to just have a job and not make it your primary focus. A myth of capitalism is that we need to derive self worth and a sense of identity from our work and this is simply saying the opposite, this is not a threat, people have always done this and it’s just got a new name.
You read the accounts of Chinese travelers into Ancient India and you get the same feeling.
Perfectly said!!👏🏿👏🏿
Well said.
Not missing the point at all... Guys that think this way are called Lazy Bums, and would get completely crucified. Western women are the only the only ones that get pass for this type of nonsensical behavior.
So instead of interviewing the young people from TikTok who I'm sure could also adequately explain the new trend, we're instead going to interview Suzy Welch, who is the widow of Jack Welch, ex-CEO of General Electric. Jack had a net worth of over $700 million and got a $400+ million severance package when he retired. I guess if anyone knows the struggles of today's youth, it would be the mega-millionaire class, right? #CNBCFail #ClassWarfare #WorkUntilYouDropDead
Kkk
That is the point.
There is no lazy job for 60-80 a year
You'd be surprised. There are more $60-80K lazy jobs than $20-30K lazy jobs.
@@buckbiro I guess a better description is getting in there. It's not easy to get in there, but if you do, you can just chill and collect. And you're right, the low paying jobs is where you might have to hustle
College degree's gate keep a lot of these easy jobs. Working in retail and doing 3 peoples job for minimum wage while the worst people in the city come yell at you is probably the hardest you'll ever work compared to one of these higher paid jobs they are talking about.
@@buckbiro Truth. It seems the more you make, the less responsibility you have and the easier the job is. That said, getting a $60-80K job is hard. Well for people who don't show up on CNBC.
Hardly. That depends on Soooo many factors including location and occupation.
It is a luxury to be able to manage your stress. We all know stress affects your health and that of your family. Choosing to manage your level of stress is not "lazy" it is a conscious choice about your level of compinsation. Adulthood is about making choices hard choices and not everyone who has what it takes wants to be a boxer for what it takes from you. But try it first? Know yourself from experiences, wins and losses, you will never know yourself otherwise. But also don't stuck doing something where you would be better elsewhere because maybe they would be better off as well?
She has no anxiety and thinks it's mmimk this is disease or
As a person who grew up with the girl boss culture. I'm proud of Gen Z. Don't slave away all your time. Its not worth it. Burnt out is real. Also, burnt out leads to health issues. Believe me. I now have life changing health issues. It was due to workaholic tendencies, stress, overload and anxiety. Life is precious. Focus on those you love and activities you cherish. As a senior citizen once told me "When a person is on their dying bed. They're not wishing they would have worked more hours. No. They're wishing they would've spent more time on relationships with family and friends."
You people are very fragile
@solarlight10 If fragile to you, means overcoming a mastectomy and dealing with a brain tumor. OKAY.
Maybe companies are the problem. If they can’t produce an attractive place to work (ie decent work life balance, pay, 401k matching, and not doing layoffs every quarter), then perhaps there wouldn’t be some new work trend every 3 months.
@@Waterdiver3900 I’m a software engineer, so if I’m not looking at a screen, then I wouldn’t be doing my job.
Exactly. In Denmark, they get 6 weeks of vacation they're strongly encouraged to take because otherwise the company must pay it out. Here, the powers that be value profit over people, and I respect the hell out of Gen Z for telling them they aren't going to live that way.
I work at a high school and my advice to young people is to find the easiest job you can do that pays the most money. Working your life away is silly
80K and chill job. Everyone wants it
Fr lol
like in the 1920s when 5 year olds didnt want to work 100 hours in a factory because they were lazy
😂😂
@@Waterdiver3900 If they were better people then how come 2 world wars happend during their time?
That is such a reach.
Gen Z anxiety is experienced by both men and women. This trend of the work balance equation is not only a desire of Gen Zs. All other age groups want a better work life balance. Worker shortage has allowed workers to demand companies meet workers halfway.
Aspiring housewives😂. My wife pretended she liked discomfort too
They want their sugar daddies but they want also to stay lazy and not shower
I don't know who thinks a Customer Success Manager is a lazy job. It actually can be one of the most stressful jobs on earth. Actually it's more stressful than most jobs because you're literally on the hook for renewals of software. If you don't get a renewal, you're on the streets!
You can tell these people don’t respect blue collar jobs.
Depends on the company, and there are CSMs in non-software fields.
I’m in customer success and it’s VERY stressful! I don’t know if it’s the company or what, but I wear many hats and I’m always putting out fires! The only pro is no inbound calls back to back, but my clients still call me requesting assistance, which is annoying! I don’t know who said “Customer Success is a lazy job” LIED!
I mean all the hosts on CNBC work "Lazy Girl Jobs" so they should be well versed to talk about it.
All I see is a lot of old people talking down to a younger generation about “toughening up” 🤡
Then you see clearly
Gen Z saw their parents work hard, not appreciated and not spend enough time with them so I guess they don’t want that. Who does
We can afford rent or food what our parents could buy two houses
Read the book Brave parenting it is one of the best books on how one should parent. Heavily influenced by Buddhism however the concept is not running away from Pain and anxiety but recognizing that everything is impermanent and feeling something is not the end of the world and understand that everything passes
Der Lebensalltag eines praktizierenden Buddhisten ist lebensfremd
Wtf why are they discussing dumbtok trends lmao
effort to wake up at 5 or 6am just to commute to work: travel expenses.
face coworkers who dont like you at cubicle. Then stuck in traffic going home.
Or
work from home: less effort & expenses to travel. Less interaction with people. you get a paid for that job. More time with family.
People enjoy work from home set up.
exactly. I worked from home during most of COVID and will never go back to an office-based job. I get so much more done with much less stress and aggravation. I can "collaborate" just fine over Zoom, Teams or email.
make 60-80k lol. Most houses combined only make 70k. So these are middle class college grads taking it easy
Want a lazy job but demand comparable pay to others?
I'll be okay with max stress for a >80k job lol
Having a job that allows you to be worthless is the first clue you have to your job being replaced by AI.
"Are you sure you aren't just experiencing...adulthood?" lol
Yeah they want to stay kids
@@Otto-WebbFr sadly
What is the point of bringing on a professor to reference Barbie movie 🍿 instead of scientific evidence 🤔
Worklife balance isn't lazy
maybe have a non-boomer in this conversation
Exactly. A non-boomer that's also not filthy rich.
The poster "Lazy Girl Job" is being a Recruiter or HR staffer because they add absolutely no value to the hiring process or the company. And, they are not a candidates or employees' advocate.
Women be telling on themselves....they don't want real work unless it's "cool" or "boss". And they want men to do all the real work - construction, transportation and technical. And then be thanked for doing eff all.
I follow this girl on IG and agree with her. I am not gen z but have mad respect for her, probably because she clearly respects herself, unlike that so called professor
And then they will complain about "wage gap" and inflate the number when in reality its a very small % and its because of stuff like this.
It is not anxiety it is stress. How did you become a professor of anything when you cannot even describe the phenomenon accurately. Without any stress you will not even be motivated enough to get out of bed to eat.
I never called myself a life coach because I am not. Also the team didn't credit my video lmao
That's you 🤣
My niece is a therapist in her mid 30s and worked hard for her career. She deals with with Gen Z and she's been talking about this issue for a couple of years. Her Gen Z clients are "overwhelmed" by "anxiety" which is in fact, just the normal stresses of everyday life. Some of their complaints are legit, but most are just ridiculous.
I think it’s more about not letting your job run your life. It’s an American cultural norm that we live to work rather than work to live. I think it’s reasonable to want things outside of work to be the focus of one’s life
@@Kris-sc9oc I concur. Unfortunately, that's not the real world. People wanting to make money, while relaxing, without anxiety is something akin to retirement. Concurrently, diamonds are made by intense pressure. Be a diamond
They were raised by woke women, what do you expect? This is the generation of participation prizes and no adversity.
The biggest problem in our country is that K-12 is all women. We aren't raising men, much less strong women.
@@weirdshibainu I'm stealing that one
@@weirdshibainu good points. I know in France practically everyone takes the month of august off for vacation. Most Americans don’t even use the two weeks (10 days) of vacation they get a year lol
As a young person in the military I completely don’t understand this at all
Hey I’m a 20 something that’s done 4 years of service and holds a job at a small company now. It’s not the anxiety, it’s the anxiety trade off. The minimum wage to basic consumer goods chart is the biggest gap in the history of our fiat system and college grads are only getting 4 dollars more than what minimum wage should be at based on this model. So tell me why we should stress to take care of your company when we aren’t getting taken care of? You don’t understand because you’re not in our situation.
People just don't want to work but get paid in full 😅. A better set up would be Tuesday to Thursday work week but during that time you get paid for not being lazy 😅
Basically they want to be sugar babes but without tue effort
Lazy doesn’t mean low stress.
I know it's called squawk box, but I wish ol boy would not interrupt.
Taking advice from an other 20 yr old is the first mistake
Honestly, how can "not sleep" for 4 years due to a startup be fun? To each their own, but in my case I was never able to find one thing that is at the same time completely fun, hard as hell and very lucrative, and probably will never find...
The name is funny because of the word lazy. In reality there's nothing lazy about it. Women have long been smarter than men when it comes to work-life balance. They don't sacrifice everything just to get ahead in the carrier.
Where are these lazy girl jobs between 60-80 K ???
I am curious does anyone know people who have worked hard for generations and yet still barely making a livable wage. Does anyone know people whose families can buy their way into the top colleges and then get them a job at their company where they accelerates to the top without having to put in the hard work of those people without their "connections". I rest my case
Good luck see you at the top
Isn't parenting just a scapegoat? Just off the top of my head, Gen Z as a cohort was basically born into 9/11 and the corresponding recession, saw their parents get laid off in the meltdown, and then graduated into Covid. During most of their lives, we were engaged in two long wars. During that time, we went from almost closing our national deficit in the 90's to blowing it out from 2001-today. Their college loans have blown up in price, interest rates are so high that they can't borrow to hit the life goal posts like earlier generations have, they're putting off marriage, and the jobs they thought would be good are being disrupted by AI. Politics have devolved into a mean-spirited food fight. Europe has fallen into war. Houses are out of reach. Car payments are now as large as mortgage payments used to be. It costs $15 to get a burrito at chipotle, meanwhile salaries haven't kept up. Natural disasters are picking up in intensity and frequency, and temperatures are rising. Mass shootings are a daily occurrence. To top it off, they are inundated in social media posts that present other people's lives in a rosy light for comparison to their own comparatively worse life.
On top of that, as a people we've been experiencing increasingly inequality for decades. Millennials were born in a country where one parent could work and put a roof over their head. That was painfully changed in approximately their first decade of life. Gen Z, on the other hand, have seen it slide to the point that it's common for cities to have the "working homeless" and basic costs like education and shelter are such an albatross that they can't even launch and never really had an expectation to. I can see where the anxiety comes from, and in the absence of that, nihilism like we're seeing in China's younger generation. Millennials had it rough, but they at least had it good enough to dare to dream for a bright future. Gen Z has no dream, only various ways of dulling the pain, and a sense that there's no point saving the seed stock for an increasingly ruined future, so they might as well sell it off while there's still something to sell. That would explain why Gen X aspired for jobs with longevity like doctors and lawyers, Millennials aspired or jobs with high pay and early retirement like computer programming and investment banking, and Gen Z just aspires to make some quick cash as a CZcams or Twitch streamer and doesn't even want to think about what they will be doing in 20 years. Can't blame them.
This is a generation that has been steeped in anxiety-inducements since birth. No wonder they're anxious.
First world problems. Wait til you are old😚
@@RightTailAngst I'm not in Gen Z.
That said, wars, natural disasters, and mass shootings are not first-world problems.
@@RightTailAngst I'm not from Gen Z but your generation knows how to profit from a golden age and make it a dark age for your childeren Gen Z, Most likly they will face ww3 caused by your generation of people... Its easy to blame the young ones when the older ones have all the power and influences...
@@Katadori09 true. But have the introspection to know that you are not the first generation going through things. Get over it and have an objective don’t just complain. Just sayin
@@RightTailAngst again, I'm not in Gen Z. I'm talking about it as an outsider.
Things are still to easy. Many jobs still open. When things get harder things will shift.
It’s so true
Is this just/mostly a thing for girls? or do guys also opt for "lazy guy jobs"???
oh my god that guy was so deep at the end
When the value of unimproved real estate goes up in price 5x faster than you can earn from your job in raises, what do you expect. People give up.
I can’t relate, as a Mexican dad I’m tough on my kids. They will thrive in a world where everything is bubble wrapped for safety. 😅
Thing is, can man use this same excuse? Men have all types of anxiety but we have to make it happen.
As someone else a little bit older I respect Gen z for this approach. Similar to "quiet quitting", these young people are saying that they want work to be a part of their lives, not their entire lives.
So many people from our generation sacrificed everything (family, health,etc) in the pursuit of money and I think younger people are simply saying that is not their desire. I applaud this!
On the flip side, they also can't complain about not getting ahead in a corporate world.
The world IS ending, broseph... you'll just be dead before you can admit it. A big chunk of the younger generation knows this.
In my opinion, whoever implemented participation trophies is responsible for the weakness seen in young adults today. Losing is uncomfortable. The response from losing is to brush oneself off, get back in the competition and work harder to improve. This is uncomfortable but builds character and perseverance. So simple and has worked for millennia.
Na, it has nothing to do with winning or losing.
Gen Z hasn't been living under a rock, they(we) have observed the elders in our family, who lost their time and mental we'll being to the company they work in.
These companies did a great job making sure the previous generation lived on an illusion of achieving something great, like hanging a carrot in front of a Donkey.
Gen Z knows this from the very beginning and doesn't want to repeat the same mistake of being slaves to the Corporate, as previous generation did.
And lastly, It's stupid of you to give the analogy of, Winning and losing.
The game is rigged, starting lines and rules are different for everyone, and trying to win this game is literally the way, previous generations ended up wasting their lives on...
Absolutely. This generation has seen through the okey doke. They will not be shamed into going back. Good for them.
@@ashish4451 that sounds good and all but you add the levels of “anxiety” Gen Z has and that argument fails. In losing you learn to cope with failure. In winning you also learn to cope but with success and the feeling of power.
Yes, however, sometimes you get hit with multiple stressor and challenges, leading to health issues and burnout. I'm very type A and driven. However had to quit my job due to burnout and stress.
Millennials sure did take the L and came stronger but gen z are precious little snowflakes and they are just going to consume and not work for it
Its about money, gasoline is too expensive for us to see any value going to a cubicle.
its not necessarily that gen z and younger millennials are lazy its just that we got screwed on housing and tuition its mentally hard to work saddled with student debt from a terrible system combined with a outrageous housing situation.
They are psychologically incapable of dealing with stress, anxiety, or discomfort.
Easiest money to be made is from government spending tax dollars. Just tap into that and you're set.
Well...in a way I get it, work smarter not harder but honestly, they are misguided a bit. Especially since most of these Gen Z's have a significant amount of debt, how are they going to get out of the hole by just coasting? How do they get ahead? Now, assuming their financial house is in order, all bets are off; do what you want at your leisure as long as you have the ability to find another cake job and coast. Kind of worried me a bit about them taking care of me in the future with regards to healthcare but maybe robots will do that job in 50 years lol.
They've already learned to take life less seriously because the cards were stacked against them from the beginning.
@@chavruta2000 True. The older adminstrators at the Universities stole the future from the young with high tuition costs.
@@cozyslor high tuition definitely a factor
"The mind adapts and converts to its own purposes the obstacle to our acting. The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way."
Stress isn't real.
Thats what i do didnt know my lifestyle was called lazy girl
Putting our time and effort in activities and investments that will yield a profitable return in the future is what we should be aiming for.
Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it.
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Its called being weak.😂
This just comes down to the fact that women are not supposed to be in the work place. This is not their purposed social role.
If the movie Barbie is used as an example on how to live life ... SOCIETY IS FINISHED. 😮
wow talk about older gen trying to understand the younger gen without the younger gen at the table. and the cycle of stupidity and misunderstanding continues.
Pfffff 60-80 for very little anxiety maybe in the major metropolis' lol
@Suzy.W & @SwaukBox, longtime enthusiast. However, looking on Gen X's "Lazy Girl," I am also from a generation where young ladies worth at home or workplace moderated the "Baby-boomers," of the 60's? Today's "Lazy Gigi," accustomed as movements defy our government or welfare, in contrast, to any genres Gen X symbolisism a true marque of the "Lazy Gigi?"
well there is no obvious path, even with diligence and hard work, to anything resembling success or even stability anymore, in this economy for kids entering the workforce. So why spend your soul trying to do something that probably won't happen? They are going to be scrounging for a while, until some break comes along. This is a difficult thing for boomers to understand.
so basically housewives are back in style
Listen... all I'm hearing is avoiding imaginary "anxiety". I STILL don't get what "lazy girl jobs" are suppose to be from THIS video. Let me keep researching elsewhere to get a clearer understanding without all the in-between unnecessary rhetoric in the attempt to fill in the holes of what it actually is. So in a nutshell, for me, she said a whole lot of something to define nothing in regards to what exactly a "lazy girl job" is.
Some of you sound completely ridiculous as if the news didn’t script the words “Gen Z” over and over. No one wants to slave away at work and younger people have realized that’s ALL boomers have done. .and still doing. We’re not gonna “pull ourselves up by our boot straps” Sandra, there’s more to life than that. Not to mention y’all’s issue thinking younger ppl can’t have real life, valid experiences that can change work culture shows your single mindedness. And everyone has some sort of anxiety, some more extreme than others.. get over it. It’s not just gEn zZZz
sounds like a rich kid's problem
"Take a low stress, 60 to 80 K job"🤯.
They Just give em away like Halloween candy I guess. Where they do that at ?
Honey that ain’t just Gen Z-that’s all of us! Americans are some of the hardest working folks in the western world. We deserve a bloody break and a chance to enjoy life without being a complete slave to capitalism. Take all the PTO and sick days you can folks! Go on vacation! Life is too short to just work, work, work, repeat. We should all have at least 3 weeks of PTO as the new standard. Demand more ☝️
start companies, not jobs
This is what happens when you give human sloths a platform. What drives stress is debt. Anyone who truly does not want stress just avoid debt. It's that simple.
60-80k
Yea right
If you want a high paying job, stress comes with it. No pain, no gain!
So are you saying low paying jobs are not stressful.
@@danl5877 Actually they are usually worse
Is this the same Suzy Welch that had an affair with Jack Welch when she was interviewing Jack?
Where do you a job like that. I want one.😊
We are going to evolve into literal floating p words.
Low stress 50 to 80k? Where those jobs at?
Women’s movement going well I guess…?
How about you actually ask gen Z why they're doing this instead of making random guesses? Did it ever occur to you that maybe you guys don't understand what they're actually going through?
Good luck finding a high paying job, with no stress or pressure, so that you have the money and time to do whatever you want when you're not working. Mental-Masterbation.
This women want to reject feminism and be trad wives. This is a good thing and should be celebrated.
Lets keep in mind most news anchors are millionaires or close to it so they cant relate to the majority. That lady is so out of touch with reality, when she was going after it decades ago goals were more attainable unlike today. And everything today is 10 times harder. One person wasnt hired to do 3 peoples job etc
They are just lazy
Jesus theyre out of touch. Good on Gen Z for not wanted to put themselves into the corporate meat grinder. They know the game is rigged and have seen how much their families were screwed over.
Watch how the pay gap grows
why just why
"I'll take things that a white girl would say for a thousand."
Everybody wants to do little and get alot