Owen Jones meets Emily Thornberry: 'Theresa May has done bugger all for poor people'
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- Labour's shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry tells me that Theresa May has done little to help people struggling to make ends meet in Britain. She says the prime minister has been all talk and no action when it comes to tackling poverty, saying she is more focused on attempting to placate the warring factions of the Conservative party and deal with Boris Johnson's Donald Trump-esque outbursts and public insubordination.
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All of this came on a tour round part of her constituency of Islington South, an area that has an unfair reputation for being the exclusive domain of latte-drinking, champagne socialists despite high levels of poverty. We discussed the housing crisis in her constituency and how the high levels of inequality impact the community.
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9:15 modern Shakespeare right there
Well this has aged well.
Ah, Thornberry. A champion of the working classes.😂😂
I can see Emily Thornberry running for PM in years to come, and she would have my full support. So much respect for her, she's an asset to the Labour Party ❤❤
Louise Gardiner don't like her ..she doesn't stand for the poor man .yes the London crowd love her but in the real world in the north she is very posh bird who hates Mr white van man also sends kid's to private school ...I don't like her ..
Deep Thought I did, she's spot on, what a lady...
Louise Gardiner Maybe an asset to the Labour party but certainly not to the nation. I hope that's where she remains.
Louise Gardiner she is an amazing woman clever, smart, and honest. She is prime minister material. I wish her all the luck ❤❤❤❤❤
You must be blind and deaf or not on this planet
I feel the Conservatives are very good at hiding internal trouble, the fact that that poor young man killed himself over bullying and so on in the youth wing of the Conservatives would suggest huge amounts are going on.
SnazzBot No it wouldn't :') it shows some twats bully people which isn't anything new
Bullying = Momentum
@@chrismunt8443 bullying = plain wrong
So - there's too many people and not enough housing - I know - lets ramp up immigration because that will solve the problem - easy !!
Emily Thornbury would make a great super villain
I’m sorry Emily - whilst I am no fan of the Tories - what the hell have Labour done to help working people of late? When Blair was in power, the gap between the wealthiest and poorest grew even wider. Then there was uncontrolled immigration, which helped stagnate wages, place intense pressure on housing, NHS and other public services. Then there’s also the fact that the state sector education system in the U.K. is terrible - but most Labour politicians wouldn’t know that, as they either send their children to selective grammar schools(like you do) or go private.
Nice to hear from Lady Nuggee.
In the dictionary under delusional there is a link to this video.
I would like to see an extended cut of this interview if you have one.
This is so prophetic.....everything they’ve mentioned turned out precisely the opposite!
Its like Stephen Fry talking to Hugh Laurie in one of their sketches
9:15 savage
Nice profile pic
Remain utterly bemused at the persistent refrain '''we accept we have to leave the EU because of the referendum.' That statement in itself makes me doubt anyone's integrity. When a legal case is found to have rested on fictitious information falsified by witnesses demands for a retrial are howled abroad. Why do the Labour leadership not recognise that and demand a 'retrial' ? I am so disappointed by the level of debate in this country at the moment.
By the way, despite completely disagreeing with her stance re the referendum outcome I really admire her and find her easy to listen to and impressive in her clarity of argument across many areas of the government programme. She's certainly a plus for the Labour leadership team!
"Can't you hurry with this conversation? Kfc closes in ten minutes."
Watching this in April, 2020, it’s almost like an ironic comedy skit.
Never ask Emily Thornberry to join your pub quiz team. You'll lose.
Pity Owen Jones didn't ask much about Foreign Policy rather than rambling on about Islington. This seemed to be journalism lite.
My favourite bit was Owen on the swing, he looked so at home x)
"Let the grown-ups come in" 😂😂
Does anybody know what the housing report that came out this week Owen mentions is?
Emily Thornberry quote “we did do up all the social housing in the country, we just did not build any” Ed Miliband when he was leading the Labour party did apologise for that at the Mine workers gala so our Emily has to agree. The record under Labour was appalling, 8 housing Ministers in 13 years, over 4 million immigrants allowed into the country, £billions spent on endless wars.
Our Emily spoke about the role of a future Labour Government in the world. She states “the British really ought to have a louder voice in the world. We can make a positive contribution we can talk to this people, we can do this, we can show this leadership, none of that is happening”. Same old stupid arrogance, same old story just like Blair/Brown, all I see under a future Labour Government is more Brits in body bags.
Emily Thornberry is one of the great political comeback stories.
No she isn't lol. Normal people fucking hate her.
She seems like she would fit well in the thick of it for some reason..
You should have asked her whether she still looks down on the working class.
If it is too expensive to live there for young people, what is wrong with them moving ? You can't expect to afford to buy a house everywhere...
Celebrates that the area is full of migrants... worries about the amount of homes... vacant brains
I agree with her on Brexit and Theresa May . She's a very brave woman and straight to the point. Just imagine if she was running instead of May !
she has the energy of a Bond villain
What an amazing women. Love the way she stands upto Boris!! She would be a fantastic foreign secretary
Would it be possible to up the voice volume in your videos? It's a bit low
Emily Thornberry quote “we did do up all the social housing in the country, we just did not build any”. Ed Miliband when he was leading the Labour party did apologise for that at the Mine workers gala so our Emily has to agree. The record under Labour was appalling, 8 housing Ministers in 13 years, over 4 million immigrants allowed into the country, £billions spent on endless wars.
Then she talked about the role of a Labour Government in the world. She states “the British really ought to have a louder voice in the world. We can make a positive contribution we can talk to this people, we can do this, we can show this leadership, none of that is happening”. Same old stupid arrogance, same old story just like Blair/Brown, all I see under a future Labour Government is more Brits in body bags.
We keep hearing brexit is in a mess but no evidence is put forward to back that statement up. We keep hearing brexit is a disarster but no evidence, remoan just throw slogans about but never prove what they say ..let me see if I can find it in these stats..employment up/exports up/manufacturing order books highest since 1988.
financial service sector jobs up 13% this year/ over £100 billion of foreign investment into the uk since brexit vote/
banking giants opening up London HQ for post brexit deutsche bank/ ing bank/ Softbank/ firms moving in google /wells fargo/amazon all creating thousands of jobs/ bmw building the new mini in uk not eu/nicsan building new models/
this so called disarster is in fact a wacking boom a success that just not getting enough limelight..
You also have people who fly the flag of St George.
Less of a interview, more of a conversation. Gave her a much easier ride than you did for Campbell
I'd give her an easy ride. Oooooooooooooo suit you sir.
I find her very easy to listen too and refreshingly honest.
Thanks James, shut the door on the way out.
I miss her honest tweets about white van men.
Wow, James. The only thing you actually have to say is a comment about her weight? How about her policies, her views, her values? Nope? Do come back when you have something useful to say.
shlibber well you never, ever know anyone is honest. Even yourself. All you can do is marry the words to the deeds
I don't trust overweight politicians. screams greed.
The housing estate this was filmed in has no people ? Owen looks like he had a rough night , he's walking like a cowboy...
Just two more reasons not to vote Labour.
Oh dear God, "let the grow-ups come in"! We're dooooomed!
I don't understand the internal workings of the labour party either that supports there leader that's a IRA lover.
I think Emily is great. I wish she was deputy leader, Tom Watson is useless.
Tom Watson is not useless. He was virtually the only major politician to stand up to the Murdochs.
Phillip Marsh He’s a useless deputy. I voted for Watson because of him taking on Murdoch, where is that fire now?
James Berry How lovely James.
James Berry She is articulate, down to earth, likeable, has a sense of humour, holds this vile government to account, is a decent and caring MP.
Paul Harris unless you are a man with a van.
Apparently she doesn't like them.
Gwyn Williams,
Impressively clear and honest lady but I wish she would get over to Venezuela and see what is really going on instead of accusing Maduro of human rights abuses from Islington. The Right in Caracas and their backers in Washington have ratcheded up pressure because elections are coming in 2018. Since the Govt. proposed trading their oil in Renmimbi instead of US$, the ant-Govt violence has got worse. Remember what happened to Gadaffi when he mooted something similar for N. Africa. Reminds me of Chile, which I lived, in 1973, and Nicaragua, where I now live, during the 1980s.
I think Emily Thornberry could be the first female Labour Prime Minister
IThinkItsForYou Hey you guys heard of Margaret Thatcher?
Alasdair Church "Female Labour pm"
Great video with a fantastic politician! When are you coming to Portsmouth North Owen?
Smashing interview!
Why no comments?
Good job mate.
I am in love with Emily Thornberry
I'm starting to get into a few things at the moment. I don't know anything about politics and philosophy really. I've been looking into the theory of the mind. I've already looked at the brain to a university level of complexity in terms of it's biology. And I've looked fairly deeply into mental health and the difference between trance states and conscious states (biologically) and also a bit into psychology and therapy. But I think what we can believe is pretty open ended. I can understand why positivism has gone by the way side. But objectivism is still very popular (ayn rand). I've only recently gotten into philisophy and really had no idea what is was about other than the sense it was addressing questions that science as yet couldn't answer (so the field of philosophy has reduced somewhat in it's scope in modern times). I've been interested in subjective idealism (berkeley) and transcendental idealism (kant). I didn't realise until recently that objective and subjective are pretty much where the camps of modernism and post-modernism (respectively) fit in - though don't ask me really. Don't ask me about marxism or anything like that as I don't really know to speak critically about anything? Also the difference between realism and pragmatism is interesting - scientific realism and american pragmatism respectively. Scottish Common Sense philosophy as well (Thomas Reid and David Hume).
Really though something that touches me most is fascism (true fascism) - specifically the psychology of fascism and repression (including self-repression), which could be twisted to mean the same thing that Russell Brand is saying about controlling our desires, but actually I think it is about either objectifying love (capitalism) or controlling or even removing love from the equation altogether... i.e. love not being the same thing as desires (that are addictive), indeed desire can form part of fascism I guess to distract us from the important things like love for ourselves and each other. Yeh - LGBT spin if you were wondering.
Labour shouldn't go anywhere near Brexit - all they want is to keep us stuck inside the single market and customs union which means we haven't left - sorry not going to happen.
What a super lady! If only Owen you had done a similar interview with Mrs May so we could compare. Pots and pans eh?
She is bang on the money in everything she says. Mere platitudes won't get people out of insecure low paid jobs or give young people a home. All May can come up with is a lecture on Thatcherite policies. I think she is also right in that the Tory Party are facing an existential crisis. They may be hanging on for dear life now but their membership is falling, the cannot attract the young and they are fighting like rats in a sack. Sure Labour is not perfect in this regard but it is ten times worse with the Tories as the huge sense of entitlement among most of them is added to honest disagreements over policy which is acceptable.
YES I wanted this so much !
What is with this term affordable housing..are the rest of us buying unaffordable housing or something and is that okay?!
Try looking for a house in Islington, and find out.
Don't look for a house in Islington then. The vast majority of people don't.
She should deed poll her name to Costello that would be fitting for the comedy farce on Labours front bench
Abbott and Costello.
An extra 300,000 NET people moving to UK each and every year will put a strain on the housing market. The 'liberati' have done great out of asset inflation ...... But now housing prices in London are finally in reverse because of Brexit...... we are finally rebalancing our economy away from the South East..... Thank God.....
I’m from East Europe myself.. post USSR country.. wanted to move to U.K. to better myself since I was 16. What really surprised me here, is that U.K. is more socialist oriented than my post USSR country 🤷🏼♂️
There's a good head on this one; She's one to look out for in the future.
Most regeneration is a waste of money. It focuses on helping poor places, not poor people. Cladding and double glazing a council estate is fine, but it doesn't solve the real underlying issues, just tries to make it look better.
And they're often shoddily installed. ie grenfell, Camden Towers etc. Labours Pathfinder was disguised gentrification. A disgrace. The cladding and double glazing was about window dressing the poor and making themselves look good.
They spent billions on shoddy vanity construction projects, it would have far more sense just to give that money to its people, and / or build more homes, better education and so on. Instead they opted for 'look how great we are' and moving funds into their vested interests- contractors pockets.
Would throw my weight 100% behind her to be the next PM
Jack Pilcher May That'll come in handy, you lightweight.
2 x champagne socialists in the making
Emily is already a millionaire.
The problem is, Emily, as I suspect you well know, that the Tories consider the national interest and the interest of the Tory Party to be synonymous.
The Tory mantra is party before country , always has been and always will be .
On the other hand capitalism has never been as discredited as now. The conviction that it doesn’t work and should be abolished is the common sense of our times. (Is Michael Moore our new Thomas Paine?) This common sense is so overwhelming, that most people don’t even bother to criticize capitalism any more, but rather invest their energies directly in finding ways out of it. According to a study of the BBC, only eleven percent of the world population thinks that capitalism works well. In France, Mexico and the Ukraine more than forty percent demand that it should be replaced by something completely different. There are only two countries, where more than one fifth of the people think that capitalism works well in its present form: the USA (25 percent) and Pakistan (21 percent).
Her use of modality is hilarious: she goes from expressions of possibility to absolute certainty (on the same issue) in the space of three sentences. The interviewer agrees with all of it. LOL. She's a professional bullshitter!
“…sometimes I do…”
Remember white van man comment, Thornberry in Government makes my blood run cold, Labour under corbyn intend to open the flood gates to immigration, do not forget corbyn supports every economic migrant in the world.( He even supplied a letter a few years ago for a migrant who had robbed pensioners to help get him bail, why is this important to him, bet he never helped the pensioners who were robbed? In his world migrants are more important than locals.
The far left will do this to bolster there vote, expect a merkel moment from Corbyn if he gets elected.
He has no interest in the working classes , just the social engineering agender of the left and there dream of a socialist republic and one party state.
Is staying in the single market and custom union really Brexit? She kinda dodged that question. Just because they voted to trigger article 50 doesn't mean they'll actually deliver on Brexit.
David C. and tory party politics causing crisis and troubles for millions.
Tories austerity are filling in their own pockets:
Ripping off people:
And reckoning the country's economy: ✔✔✔
Tory austerity was a grown up necessity to Labour racking up millions of pounds of public debt.
This is really poor. Bad journalist interviewing a lightweight. Come back John Cole and Roy Hattersley.
I'd just like to say that whilst I do live in Doncaster, I defiantly am not wanting a Brexit. I'm not middle class and I'm certainly not part of rich family but I hold Europe as the country's allies. Don't assume the everyone here is happy to get the brexit vote. A lot yes but there are many of us who hate the idea
By a lot you mean the majority.
Owen, can you do an interview with Elizabeth Warren (likely Democrat candidate next time)?
Tories were never going to do Anything for the poor. Look at how they have treated the sick and disabled absolutely horrendous. Sooner they are out the better.
gbjanuary As a disabled woman, I couldn't agree more!
Anna-Marie Shaw we have to keep fighting don't give in to them they think we are easy to push around because of our disability.
How did that work out.
think i'm gonna be sick,,,
She really is marvellous. No media spin when asked a question, just "well, we're not". Frank, talks like a normal person, has good values, Corbyn is great, but he's no spring chicken. When he feels it's time to step down, I can't think of anyone I would rather have take over.
Great video. Thanks Owen! Emily shows why she's a force to be reckon with again. I really can't wait till the next general election.
Art You're going to have to - It's in five years time!
'again' … and why was she chuckled out. Oh yes for her prejudice, stereo typical comments on white working class males.
lol
@@denzel270 cus you're mostly trash.
Comment.
I'm a LP member, I really like Emily and back her voting record and rate her as a politician. I would like to take nothing away from that.
As a matter of discussion, what do people think of this:
"I just look at her just think she looks dreadful. She looks dreadful... she had a referendum she called for it wanting to get this great mandate, she got exactly the opposite and it's as if she is being held hostage in number 10 until they can think of something better to do. So on a personal level I feel sorry for her. On a political level I think that she is, she's nasty, I think that she is prepared to let other people pay the price.and she doesn't try to speak or help the of whole country she talks about it but she doesn't do and that I think is unforgivable.
'She looks dreadful..' ... 'I think that she is nasty'. Sound personal to me.
And I am really looking forward to a world, where we don't get personal. We speak for the policies we like and against the policies we don't. Call people to account for not doing what they say they would and celebrate them for carrying out the ones they said they would in the face of opposition.
But calling them nasty and dreadful?
This idea that we don't get personal by caveating everything we say with, "this is not personal, but" is not enough. The meritocracy of ideas is what makes politics interesting, not the slinging of negative language.
Let's go on a positive ticket all-round.
And before anyone points to the behaviour of the other side....
A truly well conducted interview, if too short. Thornberry has a convincing stance, but I think she has her work cut out with Brexit and underestimates it drastically. The Tories will fail over it, and that will be the reason for the next election. BTW from a German point of view, the next Merkel cabinet (when she finally gets her act together, give us at least another month) will be just as split over Hard / Soft Brexit as Labour is. Bits of the CDU, half of the FDP and bits of the Greens want a Hard Brexit because of the unfairness of the cherry-picking with a likely soft solution (particularly if it's softer than Norway's). This weakens Merkel's (soft) stance.
Anyway, what's wrong with the Daily Wail?
Shades of Barbara Castle, great lady
Voting cant change anything. Direct democracy can.
Brexit is not even near a mess
Pretending remainers are getting behind Brexit. She's as dishonest as the rest.
Emily Thornberry just isn't Ruth Davidson.
Is she wearing a Gear S3?
Owen- you really need to stand still when you talk and stop gesturing, lose the aggressive tone of voice and listen to someone when they are speaking, instead of interrupting incessantly. Then you start to get somewhere as a blogger.
Great interview with a bloody fantastic woman!
Carl Harvey lol 😂
Can you tell me the meaning of this gov shambles over Europe?
Voted Leave which party conducted an overt racist London mayoral campaign
@moma mia What is your type of woman? Some trash who has slept with Harvey Weinstein?
Carl Harvey and the EU isn't in a mess because Europe sure is.
I can see Emily being Jeremy's successor when the time comes. Or at least she should be Deputy Leader.
Yes and Ms Abbot as deputy. Boris's dream ticket.
What a priceless pair of old women
She's such a breath of fresh air. Very intelligent woman who has a great knowledge and interest in her constituency. She would make a great next leader of the Labour party.
she's a future PM (hope so anyway).
Smurf Paul idiot. Never.
Socialism believes in helping the poor by taking from the rich. Taking from criminals to give to the poor that's fine with me morally. But taking from the rich who have worked hard are clever and have been lucky to give to the poor, no matter how needy is simply wrong. When someone is dying in hospital and the family have to be told sorry we don't have the money to save her/him, don't blame rich people, awful as that is, the reason she/he will die is because the people in the NHS the nurses and doctors who work so hard will not work for free, the pharmaceutical companies can't spend billions making drugs and then sell them for free, so don't expect rich people to just pay more taxes. You can't focus your anger on the 1%, you have to focus it on everyone, we are all in this, we are all born live and die, no one no matter how rich escapes death. We must ALL pay more tax, not just the rich, but no one wants to say that because no one will vote for it.
Emily Thornberry is so sassy, humorous and clever...sexy, too. There's always the beginning of a smile as if she knows something unknown to others: but what she is saying is what working-class people are saying on the street. I love it when she pisses-off the mainstream media such as the BBC and Sky. Well done, Emily.
"There's always the beginning of a smile as if she knows something unknown to others"
It's called dupers delight! Google it.
yeah shes great as long as you dont have any thing to do with white vans or fly the english flag !
I adore this wonderful woman and our views are quite similar. I asked myself why I personally feel sorry for Theresa May and the answer I settled on was the fact that, as a socialist, it's hard to pick and choose who you feel sorry for, even if you abhor their views and policies. It's all part and parcel of our empathetic nature. Nothing would excite me more than the Tories being totally blitzed in the next election.
Do you hate male white van drivers as well?
@naijiktom Well the usual strategy of your sort is to ‘feel sorry’ for those that offer the most virtue points and the biggest platform......all whilst ignoring the struggles right under your nose in your own back yard!
Theresa May may not have done much for poor people but at least Labour are not currently in a position to totally finish the poor off like socialists have done in Venezuela, Cuba and most other socialist countries. Anyway Owen, I'm sure this is another great video telling us that when Labour get into power and 'ask' the rich to pay more taxes that every whim of the people will be magically paid for and the rich will dutifully not leave the country, big business will prosper and pay more and more tax to make everything work out fine. (even though the evidence points to the fact the increased tax rates leads ultimately to lower revenue to the government). Anyway Owen, I know your making a nice living off your conformable middle class following and looking really cool. Just keep changing the subject and getting angry when people ask you to provide facts to back up your arguments. I know those troublesome facts and historical truths are slightly inconvenient to you when you're doing your stuff.
One way or another the Tories are well and truly finished. If they stop brexit the small membership will be off to vote the Tories out! and if they go through with brexit the economy will crash and the whole country will vote the Tories out. I'm loving it, Thanks Owen & Emily for a great interview, respect, peace & love to you both xx
Emily Thornberry sounds like a voiceover artist for M&S food moonlighting as an MP. I'm afraid these two are everything that's been wrong with the Labour Party for the last twenty years. A de-caff journalist interviews a wine bar shadow minister against a council estate backdrop. And both keep a straight face.
She would absoultey nail it as Labour Party leader. I think everyone can see that. Almost impossible to defeat.
We know what Mrs 'Image from Rochdale' thinks of the working class
Labour politicians let immigration spiral out of control. Thanks Tony. Labour politicians complain there is no social housing. Hmm.