The Deutz air cooled engines are some of the best engines in the world. We have ran Deutz air cooled engines in tractors/combines as well Same air cooled for years and love them.
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Afraid from the engineering side, the Deutz engines used on the R60 and R70 were not stellar performers. Cooling fans wore down rapidly, more of a problem on combines with so much dust at the rear vs tractors where the cooling fan was up front. Cooling fins plugging without operator knowing - we had prototypes come back with rear cylinders caked in dirt. High altitudes - most European harvesting is at relatively low altitudes but in North America, a lot of the grain is grown at elevations over 4,000 feet where the cooling fan was marginal when new, couldn't keep up once worn and 30% wear in 500 hours not untypical. Very good hype by a Deutz engine person up front in the video, but didn't match reality. Once purchased by AGCO, quickly redesigned to conventional liquid cooled engines.
I heard that when these engines were designed, they were brought to operating temperature and cold water poured on them, and anything that broke was rengineered
I just did my daily blow out of the cooling fins on my R60. Takes 10 to 15 minutes per day so I don't feel it's maintenance free. Other than that its a good durable motor. Expensive to fix though.
Correct. I don't think the best application of Deutz engine was in a combine. Chaff gets into the cooling fins and can cause overheating and even start a fire. My brother had a R52 with a Deutz engine that caught fire and burned. He ended up replacing it with a newer R52 with a Cummins.
Farmers couldn't be bothered to blow out the fins on Wisconsin engines, don't know who thought they could manage these. Sad part is these aren't any better than a 301 or 426. 4 valve heads and stiffened blocks on the harvey engines would have been a match for anything. The 516 was never a modern engine, and needed a clean sheet redesign.
Simplicity? Trouble Free? Economical? Extended Engine Life? Easy to Service? I'd like to know where to get one as my dealer (Lindsay Implement) had 5 rows(roughly 60 machines, 8/2003 you can see them in google) of these they literately couldn't give away, sure half of them were burnt, but still if you can't give away a combine, I'm pretty sure its bad. Sure you could spend an hour at the end of each day blowing out the engine or you can spend 10 minutes blowing out the radiator and a little bit of dust off the rest of it. Oh don't forget the fan blades, they wear any and you gotta replace them. Seriously whose idea was it to put an engine that requires a clean environment in the dirtiest, most flammable environment on a farm, and in the most important machine on the farm too? Also get this: Deutz went to water cooling! 2019 Deutz at Big Iron had a radiator!
I don’t know if you have ever ran a Deutz air cooled but, we have had great luck with the air cooled engines on our farm. Most of our tractors are air cooled and even our square baler has a Deutz engine on it. We have been using a Deutz powered Gleaner combine for years and we love the engine.
@@CJ-mh6yn We've just watched all the neighbors go to different colors as theirs burnt. One neighbor burnt 3 then went to Deere, one had a fire and saved it, went to red, anothers burnt, they went to a pull type versatile, 2 others went from early N6s to R70s, they went back to L3s, basically during the deutz era, there were no gleaners except Allis Chamlers Gleaners, which is what most of them that tried an Rx0 went back to as they didn't seem to burn and as they wore out they went to another color, mostly red. Then when agco put cummins in them, they made a resurgence and with help of the dealer, the entire area was just about all gleaners again, until agco said "grow or die" to our dealer and now everyone has a red combine, aside from a few L2s and L3s rolling around still. They didn't work in the very dry, short, powdery conditions of Western ND, atleast they didn't when their previous models didn't need to be babied. Radiator may be one thing to go wrong but I'd rather blow out a radiator than burn a combine. I also heard they were a pain to start without ether in the winter.
Just saying its pretty easy to blow out cooling fins just take the cover off thats held by on over centering latches then its full access i have heard of some burning down in my area but those were the farmers that had trouble with every colour never owned a gleaner but have a deutz tractor from every series from the 1950s to the 1980s and they were forced to go to liquid cooling because emisson reasons
@@mathewmerkl576 I'm pretty sure it had more to do with the missing giant fan keeping the chaff off the exhaust and the part where they must be kept 100% clean, unlike just about any liquid cooled engine
The reason Deutz went with water cooled engines was because the air cooled engines couldn't meet emissions regulations, not because they didn't work. My family has run Deutz tractors with air cooled engines for 46 years with almost no problems.
The intro was awesome. I wish I can go back in time and start a farm, powered by allis chalmers and Deutz allis
The Deutz air cooled engines are some of the best engines in the world. We have ran Deutz air cooled engines in tractors/combines as well Same air cooled for years and love them.
i guess im asking the wrong place but does any of you know a way to log back into an instagram account?
I was stupid forgot the login password. I love any help you can offer me.
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@Benedict Rex i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
There's proof positive that cheesey blue 80's lightning makes everything better! Lol!
I thought Aldo-Nova was going to start playing, Fantasy!!!
Thanks for that awesome video, very “electrifying”..... I sure hope more 8000 videos have been found!
At first I thought that Animusic harmonic voltage was going to play in the beginning
Afraid from the engineering side, the Deutz engines used on the R60 and R70 were not stellar performers. Cooling fans wore down rapidly, more of a problem on combines with so much dust at the rear vs tractors where the cooling fan was up front. Cooling fins plugging without operator knowing - we had prototypes come back with rear cylinders caked in dirt. High altitudes - most European harvesting is at relatively low altitudes but in North America, a lot of the grain is grown at elevations over 4,000 feet where the cooling fan was marginal when new, couldn't keep up once worn and 30% wear in 500 hours not untypical. Very good hype by a Deutz engine person up front in the video, but didn't match reality. Once purchased by AGCO, quickly redesigned to conventional liquid cooled engines.
I heard that when these engines were designed, they were brought to operating temperature and cold water poured on them, and anything that broke was rengineered
Aircooling is king !
I just did my daily blow out of the cooling fins on my R60. Takes 10 to 15 minutes per day so I don't feel it's maintenance free. Other than that its a good durable motor. Expensive to fix though.
Correct. I don't think the best application of Deutz engine was in a combine. Chaff gets into the cooling fins and can cause overheating and even start a fire. My brother had a R52 with a Deutz engine that caught fire and burned. He ended up replacing it with a newer R52 with a Cummins.
Nice find of Deutz Allis combine vid👍not sure about automatic fold out auger especially when grain tank is full, I could see some smash augers.
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Farmers couldn't be bothered to blow out the fins on Wisconsin engines, don't know who thought they could manage these.
Sad part is these aren't any better than a 301 or 426. 4 valve heads and stiffened blocks on the harvey engines would have been a match for anything. The 516 was never a modern engine, and needed a clean sheet redesign.
Simplicity? Trouble Free? Economical? Extended Engine Life? Easy to Service?
I'd like to know where to get one as my dealer (Lindsay Implement) had 5 rows(roughly 60 machines, 8/2003 you can see them in google) of these they literately couldn't give away, sure half of them were burnt, but still if you can't give away a combine, I'm pretty sure its bad.
Sure you could spend an hour at the end of each day blowing out the engine or you can spend 10 minutes blowing out the radiator and a little bit of dust off the rest of it. Oh don't forget the fan blades, they wear any and you gotta replace them.
Seriously whose idea was it to put an engine that requires a clean environment in the dirtiest, most flammable environment on a farm, and in the most important machine on the farm too?
Also get this: Deutz went to water cooling! 2019 Deutz at Big Iron had a radiator!
I don’t know if you have ever ran a Deutz air cooled but, we have had great luck with the air cooled engines on our farm. Most of our tractors are air cooled and even our square baler has a Deutz engine on it. We have been using a Deutz powered Gleaner combine for years and we love the engine.
@@CJ-mh6yn We've just watched all the neighbors go to different colors as theirs burnt. One neighbor burnt 3 then went to Deere, one had a fire and saved it, went to red, anothers burnt, they went to a pull type versatile, 2 others went from early N6s to R70s, they went back to L3s, basically during the deutz era, there were no gleaners except Allis Chamlers Gleaners, which is what most of them that tried an Rx0 went back to as they didn't seem to burn and as they wore out they went to another color, mostly red. Then when agco put cummins in them, they made a resurgence and with help of the dealer, the entire area was just about all gleaners again, until agco said "grow or die" to our dealer and now everyone has a red combine, aside from a few L2s and L3s rolling around still.
They didn't work in the very dry, short, powdery conditions of Western ND, atleast they didn't when their previous models didn't need to be babied. Radiator may be one thing to go wrong but I'd rather blow out a radiator than burn a combine.
I also heard they were a pain to start without ether in the winter.
Just saying its pretty easy to blow out cooling fins just take the cover off thats held by on over centering latches then its full access i have heard of some burning down in my area but those were the farmers that had trouble with every colour never owned a gleaner but have a deutz tractor from every series from the 1950s to the 1980s and they were forced to go to liquid cooling because emisson reasons
@@mathewmerkl576 I'm pretty sure it had more to do with the missing giant fan keeping the chaff off the exhaust and the part where they must be kept 100% clean, unlike just about any liquid cooled engine
The reason Deutz went with water cooled engines was because the air cooled engines couldn't meet emissions regulations, not because they didn't work. My family has run Deutz tractors with air cooled engines for 46 years with almost no problems.