190cc Honda Trail 70 First Ride! 19HP Restomod Honda CT70 Build
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- čas přidán 13. 10. 2020
- I take my 190cc Honda CT70 out on the road for the first time! My no-expense-spared Honda Trail 70 resto-mod is finally complete. In today's episode, we clean up the 50 year old Honda mini bike, install an oil cooler for the 190cc 5 speed Zongshen engine, and take it on its first few road tests. This is one fast Honda CT70!
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I think this bike is the only vehicle I've ever seen on this channel where no corners have really been cut. This is a rarity. Nice build.
give them time soon the jet drills will come out and they will be drilling things they shouldn't. instead of buying some $3.00 jets to tune it right
@@MrGixxer1300r I am a fan of theirs so I really wish you were wrong but at the same time I can totally picture that happening. And I agree, they get the hookups on parts so why did they simply adjust the needle and call it good? I get that it's temporary but I totally would've opted for at least a fatter main in a heartbeat. Before riding any real distance. Wonder if they checked engine temps after assuming they were lean?
I was thinking the same 😂
Nothin wrong with jet drills.
To be fair when your working on old rusty things like they do it's kinda hard not to cut corners When they don't have the correct parts on hand they make a part and make it work I don't see anything wrong with that I think that's one of the main purpose for the channel is to show how you can fix something from a little of nothing I can't speak for them I don't know them personally it's just my opinion Us North Carolinians think a lot a like lol
Try these 2 things. Lower the air pressure in the front tire by ALOT. Remember the caster on this bike was designed to run with a flatter knobby tire, not a nice round slick. Also try to raise the fork up in the tree like another guy said. This will also change caster. Good looking bike guys!
I agree
Can't wait to hit the road!
run them at farmington dragway
Yeah I'm a fan and I got a ct200u and it's a pretty good bike you should do another video on it but and make it like a drag one or something I don't know
Can't wait to hit the like ;-)
challenge you do ford model T
16/32 sprockets?
Hey if your front end feels like it’s pushing and not turning well you need to raise your forks up in the clamps
I was thinking the rake is out of whack causing it to speed wobble.
@@DanITGuy you're right because you can feel the shift in stability whenever you use your front brake in corners vs the rear. The way it changes the rake makes it feel less stable
It could also be something not right with the rear end which most people over look
Does look like to much rake. Exaggerated by the small scale. Choppers are awfull, things to ride. The hard rider rides the front wheel..
Sounds like caster effect
That is the best looking Trail 70 I've ever seen, and I'm old! In my aging process I have sold literally hundreds of motorcycle head bearing sets. Don't take this wrong, but at least 20% of the non-mechanic installers will put then caged bearing in the race up-side-down. Other common issues are the race not fitting in the frame correctly, (wrong parts, frame wear, washer, keyed washer, washer, spacer in the wrong order etc.) When correctly assembled with quality grease, the nut should be tightened enough to assure the races are fully seated in the frame and parallel, loosened, then tightened snug while rotating the bars. There should be NO PLAY whatsoever in the fork or bars when properly set, and there should be smooth rotation without any binding from cables etc. On a triple tree set-up like yours it is imperative to have PERFECT spacing and parallelism in the triple-tree brackets tubes and axle-nut. IF IT DOESENT FEEL 100% RIGHT DON'T RIDE IT. Take it all apart, clean and inspect everything look for unusual wear indicators and try again, and again, and again until it rides, brakes, and handles like it should. I ride everything from 1100cc sport touring bikes to 50cc four stroke scooters, and I can assure you, you can get on any one of them and dive into a corner with total confidence. Because your life depends on it, it should always be 100% correct!
Note: "Captain Chaos" has good advice on fork tube parallelism methods below. All the spacers on the wheel axle, between the bearings, and outside the bearings are critical. Tightening the axle nut should not pull in or out on the forks.
Never in my life have I ever seen someone do a burnout without holding the front brake 💪😂😂
I was like "Grab The Brake"
Nail biting
@@kiemelraines4300 I think everyone watching was saying it😁
Same 💪😂
I do It with my pitbike sometimes
How is it that 46 people didn’t like this build? If anyone didn’t like this build then you should probably go find another channel to watch!! Great job bud 👏🏼👌🏽
Hater gon hate that’s they’re job in life
jealous they ain't got one!!
Agree
Maybe you should find something else to worry about like how you're gonna feed your 9 kids.
@@patmercer8591 well jokes on you bud I have 1 kid and he get fed better than you so.... but thanks for the random comment it sure made my day 👌🏽 now go an troll someone else’s comment!
Had a similar problem on my 83 virago. I realigned my front tire. Loosen bottom triple tree bolts and pinch bolt on axle and then bounce your front suspension a few times and let it settle into position.
Awesome job guys, Been a massive fan in Australia since you first started. Ive got the same passions and similar toys that you guys have... Including the nissan 300zx i see stored up high in the old garage. Im now passing the knowledge on to my twin boys that we've all learnt over the years which is pretty cool. Also ya not far off 1 Million veiws guys so ya gonna have to have a massive party with all the other chanels to celebrate your and Isaacs success.
Cheers for all the memories, Stay well to you guys and all thats watching.
Ad from Oz. 🥳👍
My mate has a 190 Honda monkey. He’s had that at 92 😂 23hp. Insane little machine. Great vid 👍🏼
92mph?! Holy fuck Batman! 23hp tho I don't doubt it.. I rip my kids bone-stock 50cc honda around and I weigh 135lbs. Think bike is rated 3.1hp from factory
Big bore kit on that 125, I think 181 is the max.
The jet needle doesn’t effect wide open throttle, that would be the main jet.
It does. Depending on the carburettor the needle has slots with a retainer clip on it at the top of the needle. Move the clip to a different slot and the needle will have a different height and therefore different diameter at any given throttle position as the needle is never fully out of the jet. Move the clip down, therefore needle up, therefore slim the diameter at the jet resulting in more petrol aka a richer air fuel mixture
That is incorrect. The needle isn't completely out of the main jet, the taper used can modify WOT fuel delivery.
i agreewith 300zx as the main jet is userly alot smaller then the emulsifyer tube so at wide open throttle the needle just sat in the entrance to it wouldnt restrict flow unless you had the clip on the top notch on the needle then mabie but i see where you get the idea it would and mabie it would on some carbs
Just take a nice long wide open run and then check the plug color it'll tell you if your main jet is lean or Rich
John that build is " FREGGIN SICK " LOVE THE COLOR OF THE FRAME & THE SEAT COMBO.
Required or not, signals and mirrors are definitely useful if you're going to ride in traffic.
Makes even more scenes if you plan to ride it oh I don't know maybe out of state!
Nah, hand signals are more visible on small bikes anyways
Thanks mom.....
My hands are my signals, have been forever and I do fine in traffic
John that looks really clean,nice looking bike ,hopefully we see a road trip soon ,great episode 👍👍
Love it my dad bought me a ct 70 at the truck stop in the 80’s and I put so many miles on it around the yard it was crazy I would not come in t rat unless I went threw 3 tanks of fuel lol which was gorever.... them 2 extra gears got
To be a big help I still have mine that don’t run and a parts bike I’m hoping that I can make on out of 2 for my boy !!!!!! Both of mine nave turnsignels so must be 73-74’s idk I just know they where fun
OH MAN YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING BACK MEMORIES. Twenty years ago when I lived in New Jersey, I bought a brand new 2000 Panda Commute (Honda Chaly copy), which was made by a Chinese company Jincheng and were imported by a now defunct company Panda Motorsports. It came as a MOPED on the MCO title and did have pedals incorporated with it. It had a Chinese 49cc 3 speed auto clutch underpowered Honda mini trail engine just like a monkeybike. This looked like a step through moped and not like a monkeybike. At the time, there was a company out of Winston-Salem NC that dealt with monkeybikes and they built an engine for me that was a 110cc and i installed it on the Panda. I also filed for a body change and got a motorcycle plate for it. I used to run it on the interstate and cruise at 70 mph (I did do a gearing change). I used to get pulled over ALL THE TIME because they thought it was a moped. I had an MC registration and it passed state inspection (which they had at the time) and there was nothing they could do. Every year, we would do a rally to Montreal Quebec and I rode that thing to Quebec and back. Fun bike. I truly miss it.
Some friends and I customized several Honda Chaly's in Vietnam. We put electric starts on them. We had trouble keeping the front wheels down when taking off. A lot of fun and good memories. We smoked a few tires and the Bearded Clam once in Vung Tau
Kind of funny how it sounds like it's even saying "vroom vroom!!" when you rev it, pretty neat... :P
Just went through the same thing with that front end. It’s binding at the lower headstock. We cut a small section off and it solved the problem.
Came here to say the same thing, might be a spacer in the bottom of the package the forks came in that would raise the bearing seat so it ain't rubbing the frame lower/cup
Wow guys, that's a really beautiful Trail 70...I guess when you're as big into minibikes and karts as y'all are you have to have a holy grail build like those of us that build cars. Good work guys!
Growing up in 80's America, my brothers and I had two CT70's. We had a YZ80 as well. The Honda could climb up the steepest inclines that other dirt bikes couldn't. Folding handle bars and we could put one in trunk of car and take to lake. Easy 3 speed auto shift lever was simple too. Amazing to see the power on this bike.
Nice build! I recently upgraded my 74 Honda st90 from a YX140 to the ZS190cc 5 speed also. I'm running a Mikuni TM28mm flat slide carburetor: 220 main jet, 17.5 pilot. The needle clip I have in the center position. The bike rips! See if Vince at T-Bolt might send you the carb and also an easy start CDI box. It will make starting it, either kick or with the electric starter much easier and you won't have any starter chain problems. Can't wait till you do the West Virginia road trip!
Awesome, i build a 77 dax from the frame up with the same engine... And yeah it has a drinking problem, also have the 45mm usd kepspeed fork and also the weir wobble. I have a 17-28 gearing if im right, 12 inch wheels. But very tiny tires i can reach 130kph/80mph but it doesnt drive very smoothly. This engine really is an race engine. And will always want to pull. And does that really good it honestly flies soooo hard its scary. Love it keep. It up guys
Yessss OMG Thank you this is amazing! can't wait to get mine together
I've been waiting for this video to come out ever since you started on this one
you just went over your check list , you did not mention life insurance !!! LOL love the videos !
Been waiting forever for this!! Love it man
I love watching you all work and some of the things you come up with are cool for keep up the videos
Props to ike... and his fatherly tone towards john
the camera game seems to be stronger in this one - love it - seems very clear, crisp
Car and and cameras this is fun to watch
I over tightened my steering once and it is a very terrible feeling trying to drive it like that I pulled off the side of the road immediately and fixed it lol Cool bike I had a 78-79 model when I was a kid wish I still had it lol ✌️
I totally love the budget builds 100%. But the NICE builds where you're feeling fancy and inspired are far better content. Love the trail 70 (190) Keep it under 100
So next spring car and cameras bike ride coming lol would be cool af
I love the way that exhaust looks!
Wow that's a sweet looking bike! Sounds amazing also!
Beautiful bike! Hope to see more of it!
I love every thing about that bike
You're supposed to hold the front brake on a motorcycle burnout.. Try that next time. A lot safer I would think!
RIGHT!!
Love that little bike, I'd tilt that rear fender a bit to match the tire if it was mine👌
Man this channel is amazing
I only wished now that i would have bought my neighbor had setting on the back fence line . Love it 👍👍👍
Man you’re super smart and definitely super cool 😎 you’re my friend for life, keep the videos coming I’m learning how to perfect my own build 125cc on a bicycle frame (huffy) 😉
When I first saw this series, I knew this would be my favorite of them all
Amazing build!
Hey guys, the needle clip position has no effect on full throttle air fuel ratio.
It does 1/4-3/4
Damn I see u on a few of the FB groups all th ed time lol
Nice bike John! Johns Toy! I know Ike likes the patina on his trail but it’s time for Ike’s trail to be upgraded like Johns. It’s nice to see John and Ike having a good ride time riding around on a beautiful sunny day! Both of you get yourself a Snowcone!👍🏼👍🏼
On the carb tuning get 10 pilot and 10 main jets online in kits. Around your stock jeymt sizes. And start at the pilot and mixture screw setting. Backfire when you let go of the throttle points to a lean pilot jet . . Fuel mix screw should tune between 1and 3 turns out from lightly seated. After getting it dialed go to main jet. Go big and work down till you get nice full revs. If too big on main the motor will bog if to lean it will pop and act like a revlimiter at a lower then full rpm. When happy with the main jet. Then make needle adjustments to improve mid throttle response. And go ride. You can also do a few plug reads to be 100% sure the jetting is spot on.
That's a nice looking mini-bike! 👍
Y'all are so Awesome, Wish your show was longer..... John You And Ike are the Coolest 👋🙂Big Fan ... Love this show.
That'll be badass strapped into the bed of that C10 project you've been keeping to yourself
epic build guys i am saving up for a zs190 can't wait
Nice communication between you two
John, I have to ask if you’re going to divulge how no expensive this build has been?
Clean ct70 brother. My grandpa gave me a 1991 ct 70 with 102 miles on it I love the little bike. Be safe riding your 400 miles
I love these kind of videos
Looking really fun, you guys Rock...
I need to finish mine. I started with a CT70, got wrecked, and found a CL70 in a scrap yard. It's a longer frame to start and with the swing arm. Sitting on the CT70 wheels it sits super low but still leans good and should be really stable.
You've made some good things over the years, but this is without doubt the nicest and cooling looking thing you've done. I'm disabled and always kind of wanted a CT (or rather ST, as I'm British). If I did, this is VERY close to how I'd have it look.
She looks great John 👍 can't wait for the mini trophy truck
shes clean man nice build
Ike I was wondering since you are going to pass right by my house on your way to West Virginia would you all be interested in stopping at my house for a quick break? I would love to meet you guys. I myself have some old Honda bikes and parts you may be interested in. I just thought I would be nice and offer that to you. I hope to hear from you all? If you don`t get back with me I will understand. Be safe on your road trip. Take care.
Nice looking bike John! Love the videos! If you've made that many changes to the bike's height and the different forks, you better check the rake and trail of the front end. Just search the internet for how to measure. It's the centerline of the steering head, not the forks, where it projects to the ground, compared to the tire touch point, should be about 3 - 4 inches.
That turned out really nice. Better than new.
This just made my day
Currently rebuilding an xl70. Sick bike man
I just restored my very first bike my Honda trail 70. I love those bikes
Beautiful bike well done sirs
My girl said Ike sounds like Dr Phil sometimes and I can't unhear it.
theres been several times where theyve gotten ike to talk about propane, because he sounds like Hank Hill
Damn you for putting that in my head!! Now I hear dr Phil too
Love these videos
Looks so sweet.
Awsome guys!! 👍🏻 your right about that, the og ct70 is geared for that low range stuff, but tops out about 45 or so , I been looking for a 4 speed replacement without having to do a lifan 125 swap , trying to keep it as stock as possible. Mine is a 81 with believe it or not the original 6 volt bulbs. I've replaced only the brake bulb , thanks for the entertaining videos , im a huge!! fan
I met them in martinsville va and got to snag a pic yall are awsome! Martinsville va
You may want to try some steering stabilizers. They really help with small wheeled bikes with more power than they were meant for. This build really made me want to go out and buy a CT70 and restomod it. Small bikes like that with some sticky tires and gobs of power are insanely fun.
Bike sounds and really good
Hi y’all love y’all show from west Alabama
Wow that bike is sweet👍
Guys you having too much fun! 🤙
Love these bikes man 👨
Me and my Twin Sister watch you Both all the time sometimes on repeat 😅
Could the front tire have a broken cord inside it or the tire may my molded little off center. Spin the tire n watch it
man thats a nice looking bike!
Sweet I am working on my gsxr 600 buggy at the moment
Plywood floors? Now that's awesome!!
hey john that bike is killer
Love y'all I'm building a pitbike
Bad ass looking bike
Inspect your triple clamps (in particular the lower) to see if they're rubbing on the steering neck. I wish I was there to actually feel the steering problem, so I'm just kinda shooting from the hip. There's a few other things to check - like rake and trail. Be sure to confirm that your rear wheel is aligned and both wheels are centered. Handling issues are no good and can result in serious consequences. I know that I'm not there and haven't ridden the bike, but working on bikes is what I do. There could be other causes out there, but those are a few things to look at. Please get it worked out rather than trying to cope with it. I ride many different bikes that all handle differently, but despite their differences they should all feel stable. You riding as if drunk is not stable lol. Anywho, the bike looks awesome! Congrats! I'll have to get me something like this down the road.
I agree. Check center on wheels...
I would get another spun aluminum tank and mount it on the other side and have three tanks the stock location one then one on either side with petcocks for each that would help for lack of economy
Great ride what a labor of love. Good luck n drive safe well at least drive fun. Looking forward to your next road trip. Have you both considered a winter road trip. Maybe snow mobiles ?? Take care you guys are the best
Bill in ft Wayne Indiana
My favorite bike you own.
Sweet machines. I'd be double checking the rear wheel alignment using the string method. Swing arm hash marks can be a bit rough.
It's one good looking ct190👍👍👍
This is so sweet
That's sick!
You named off everything, except motorcycle endorsement .
Shhhhh 😂
What they don't know won't hurt them.
@@slamboy66 Sarcasm...
When I added fork to my st70 I had to lift the lower bering cup by putting a washer on before the cup and then putting on the bike. As the cut out for the turning stop isn't deeper enough! Meaning the string was sloppy or to tight. Worth a look!
It sound sick
Love the bike. I'm in the process of building a Manco dingo Gold Line with a Honda GX390 40 series torque converter. Should be fun!
Amazing restore honda