During my 6th ketamine session(at a medically supervised clinic), God held me in his hands. He filled me with love, understanding, and compassion. I had been depressed most of my life due to my dad committing suicide and my mom not being able to function after that. This God experience has completely transformed my life for the better. My depression has been in remission for 4 months now! Psychedelics are literally a miracle!
My dad was murdered in 2019 and I’ve heard that ayahuasca can allow one to to meet with their ancestors. I just want the chance to be able to talk to my dad one last time. Would you recommend that I do it?
I’m relieved to hear someone else had the incomprehensible feeling besides me. I tried ayahuasca for the first time a few months ago and one of my profound takeaways was that this “divine energy” or “God” is and always will be incomprehensible to us at least while we’re in this mortal flesh.
I've probably triples more than 50 times. The takeaway for me was you are god. It's just one consciousness spreading out into everything. Technically you are playing with yourself
@@minotaur55 one of the first things that happened when I started tripping was I looked in the mirror and I was Jesus. I wonder if it was my brains way of interpreting that we’re all God.
Once while meditating I reached such a deep state, a lotus flower rose in consciousness and started answering all my questions, it seemed to know everything, but I could not retain and understand it all, but I had this overwhelming feeling that it was also me and that I knew everything deep down and that there was nothing to worry about. As THEY say "All is in the All and the All is in All".
If such a thing exists... It might, ironically, be the best part of life... Like taking off a tight shoe. But not forever. As all things are *becoming* And energy is eternal *8* When that moment becomes known, and you're following the light in the tunnel to be trapped into reincarnation... turn around and gaze in wonder at what you see behind you.
I've never tried Ayahuasca but Bufo Alvarius is strong as hell. I had an experience with it about a month ago and it's the closest thing to dying and being born again. During that process , the part of your brain you use to think is gone, so I was forced to just Feel reality, until I experienced the Divine character of my mere existence.which I can only describe as feeling that every living thing contains a part of what we call God. It's a life changing experience.
Wow... Seems crazy. The way they talk about it, it seems like this is the final boss of psychedelics... You take it and you cross a bridge that cannot be uncrossed. How do you feel it impacted your life?
@@franciscoferraz6788 from that day on I've been clean of alcohol, before that I had been going to bed drunk every single day for 15 years. It also turned off a radio station in my head constantly bringing up negative thoughts from the past, present and future. So now I have a peace of mind that lets me see things in a more constructive way. It's not like this is going to magically solve all your problems it's more like a tool that lets you "reset" yourself as if you were born again to a fresh start. I'm still processing the experience
@@boloniok that’s awesome man. I did a few times and it has literally made me the exact same person just with the innate awareness of no matter what you do in life you’re going to die at some point so just do whatever you want
You can absolutely “experience” false things and if you use hallucinogenic drugs then everything you experience is questionable at best and false at worst…
@@DeadSlayer0683 lol no, at worst questionable and that's a big jump, you're assuming basic experiences of your own personal default view/experiences then not understanding that they themselves are no different by your logic
Hello from Tokyo! Huge part of my PTSD and addictions treatment is listening to Joe Rpgan podcasts. I am out of Benzodiazepine after 20 years (of daily use) for 8 months now. Listening to the chaotic, free, non really structuralized but somehow deep in basic moral, and full of accepting of humans as they are - attitude has better healing effects than anything I tried during the last decades. The humor and let’s not take this world too seriously perspective also plays its role I think. This man is a treasure. I will probably never meet him in my life in person, but he plays big role anyways in my life. Arigatou gozaimasu!
20 years on benzos? Wow, congratulations on getting clean. Benzo withdrawal is no joke. I had a severe physical addiction to alcohol for about 1.5 years, and the withdrawals were hell on Earth. Cold sweats, visual/auditory hallucinations, shaking uncontrollably, etc. So glad I made it out of that hell. At first, alcohol helped my anxiety but only made it much worse in the long run. I can't imagine 20 years of that.
@@jazzfeline5970 Fortunately the withdrawal was relatively smooth, but tons of different support including intensive exercise, hot/cold therapy, fasting and kampo medicine (used mainly in Japan) was necessary. But what you described with the anxiety softening is exactly what I experienced too. It helps first but it's a brutal ruthless trap in the long term.
I was addicted to heroin and crack for 30 years so I no what a rattles about. I have been heroin free nearly 3 years in April but fair play girl. Was it your own choice to blank the pills?
yea hes definitely slow thinking that we are evolving amobeas, DMT is the opposite, it reveals that we are absolutely NOTHING, our physicality has nothing to do with our divine purpose, its our soul and the afterlife is what matters, not this vapious degenerate reality we dwell in
You're way below the mark there tesla the mission is to know he's unknowable and if you read the book properly you'll know the infinite impossibly of whatever happens after all this.
I felt like a molecule in an energy stream flowing through the universe. I’ve only gotten the feeling once but everything felt like it was ok and made sense. I don’t believe in organized religion (though it does help a lot of people) but I feel like there is something we are all a part of
@Diyor Your prophet was not a holy man. He was terrible human being. Jesus was by far the better human, and I say that as a person who isn't Christian.
@@SonoftheAllfather to know the righteousness of YAHUAH CHRIST and not be following the truth the way and the life. Why is that my brother what keeps you from humbling yourself and accepting the free gift of life given by our LORD AND SAVIOR. ✝️🙏
@@LOVEYAH09 Because it's not what I believe. I believe in a greater power, but not the Abrahamic God or any of the dogmas that are based on that God. I have nothing against people who do, but I certainly have my criticisms of the dogma itself, especially scripture.
@@SonoftheAllfather I personally just don’t see a greater power than YAH the GOD OF LOVE. There’s no better human being to follow and learn from than YAHUAH CHRIST. His Holy Spirit gifts us with his traits learning and applying his teaching in our daily life. All praises to the most high GOD the alpha and omega. Once you truly understand and follow the teaching of YAH you will see the GOD OF LOVE is like no other! Peace health and blessing be with you my brother in humanity may one day YAH open your eyes and heart to his perfect love so you may pick up your cross and follow him daily ✝️❤️🙏
I did ayahuasca a lot at 18, but nothing beats acid, lsd made me want to study computer science and help me cure my depression. Love you all and have safe trips :)
I would argue the opposite. I did 6 ayahuasca ceremonies, each of them 3 nights, and countless times of acid, psylocibin, MDMA under the same predisposed attempt of opening myself to spiritually rather than just going to party - altho I also used them for partying with the exception of Ayahuasca . I did use DMT for partying though. - and in my experiences Ayahuasca takes you deeper than any other. Having said this, there is no point in partaking these substances and actually experience dissolution of the ego but not practice it and take on the lessons on to our normal daily lives because then it becomes just a thing we did. Nothing was learned. Just like watching a film nothing more. These substances have the power for much more. I am glad you took something out of it. :)
Yeah different things with different properties have different effects. I like all of them, but L.S.D. and psylocibin, at least for me, does have very positive emotional effects and mind clearing effects. Wish I could find some lol. I guess I'll have to learn to make my own 🤷♂️
I've had these type of feelings come completely sober, I just simply denied my ego and desires and that feeling of unexplainable connection with God will come naturally.
I love a theory that kinda makes sense. We all have them but sometimes one just feels like the truth. And the Truth always likes somewhere in the middle.
There are a bunch of issues with taxing religions. There are plenty of examples in European history (and elsewhere) of kings or governments deciding to go ahead and tax a religion, and then finding that the spigot is too tempting to turn off. And so they keep turning it higher and higher and higher. There are also too many instances of governments or kings wanting to suppress specific religions or denominations and using taxes and property seizure in order to do it. Are some of these religions financial scams? Totally. But we all know that once the government decides to tax something, they never stop. If they ever give themselves a power, they never curtail it, they only grow it. The moment they decide to start taxing religions or churches, that will be the nail in the coffin for freedom of religion.
Not theft. It’s extortion. Theft stealing without the threat of violence. So if I walk into your house and take something that’s stealing. The state doesn’t just take your money. They threaten to kidnap you into a cage (ironically paid for by taxes) if you don’t pay them.
This is my daily experience, just as Joe described it. There is a pattern of change in the universe, It is constantly at work and our individual lives are collectively making it happen. Its truly beautiful.
Psychedelics can 100% give a view of the spiritual realm! They brought me back to religion!.. I saw the other side & viewed demons & angels… hard to explain but that experience has intensified over time, opposed to most memories that fade!
Sometimes you love to hear guests' takes, sometimes you love when they pick Joe's brain on stuff, and if it's the latter Brennan is THE choice to go with.
Neil was getting somewhere, and joe like always takes over and strangled the conversation. He had to interject, as he always does, and rant a mr know it all bit. This time because a former atheist was explaining HIS transition to a believer. Joe just had to. Damn it.
#Hinduism knows about these energies in detail through hardcore rishis and yogies Creation energy = Brahma Maintenance energy= vishnu Dissolving the whole creation=shiva
On my 4th or 5th ketamine session I got a SHIT LOAD. The doctor was even like "we give a lot more than the other guys" with a wink. And of course in the trip I "died", became one with the universe, understood God, "everything is everything" etc but I still compare the concept to some dreams. In the moment of a dream, be it something bad happening, or impossible in the dream, you're absolutely sure this is happening. It's absolutely real almost every time, aside from lucid dreams...until you wake up. They were great experiences, but I can't objectively say looking back that I found the secret information, etc. I'm still just "who knows". But if these experiences can convince you to believe in God, or give more love to the world, then it is by far good for humanity.
Everything you just said Joe, is explained in the emerald tablets. We are all just a cell in the process of existence. Each one of us is a universe unto ourselves. Each atom in our body contains the power of a star. Love these topics.
Psychedelics from my recent experiences (experimented as a younger man) have helped me so much, I suffered terribly for years with depression and anxiety even more so, my mental health has become so much better. LSD especially, for me, can be such a profound enlightening experience and changes your whole outlook. I've never felt so close to "God" and so at one with the world. Ego death is such a beautiful thing. It has also made me realise that other recreational drugs do not come close and I no longer take anything and haven't done so for quite some time. Such a profound, emotive, spiritual experience, teaches you a lot about yourself, not to be taken lightly admittedly but in my experience has helped me no end, I will take a "trip" maybe once a couple of months and in between them I am content and feel more spiritual and relaxed with myself and abstain from all other substances including alcohol with ease. Because once you know that such a beautiful, enriching experience can be had with psychedelics nothing compares or appeals....from my experience.
Lord of Spirits podcast will definitely help y’all understand how Old and New Testaments are reconciled and the different storylines running my through the Bible. Incredible stuff.
sad that he's wrong. It's the act of believing that is the magic, not what you believe. he totally just limited himself spiritually in the realest way by settling on christianity. God is NOT outside of us. At all. God permeates everything and we are all gods as we can tap into that power in it's infinite open ended creativity.
Once again, addicted to this amazing podcast. But in this only time, I will introduce my opinion as I had this same Ayuasca experience, more than once. Far from comparing the number of times you've taken it in terms on meeting God, this experience made me meet Him, not in a conceptual term, but rather in a natural concept. If I were asked same question," ¿what's the purpose of creation now you have experienced Ayahuasca or somehow even meeting/knowing/understanding God in a different way?" well... Purpose of creation or life has three different problems 1. Purpose of human and conscious life 2. Purpose of the creation of All itself, and 3. the problem of anthropocentric consciousness that delimits every religion and ideology accepted nowadays. We haven’t officially recognized a different consciousness in terms of knowing the “I”, the “Why”, the good and bad, or the purposes of the creation. I did have a deep introspective analysis of behaviors and feelings lived, and I understood the “because” of them; it definitely helps to forgive and heal. But other than that, as Brennan said, you feel the power of creation, and it’s beyond this trivial and sometimes minuscule individual problems…. It goes as complex and simple at the same time. Same as Mandelbrot set or even meditation, apparently the most basic patterns and concepts are the ones that defines it all in a very incomprehensible way to our human living mind. I think we are not created (or our human life phase is not meant) to understand it all, at least in our human brain. Although we have always attached Evolution to Life… maybe evolution is not an only conscious life thing, death can be the perfect moment in which evolution of energy takes us to another level of understanding. In any case I could see that the secret is not the beginning or the end (purpose) of life.. its rather the real present and how life its life itself in every second… secrets are behind the silence of thoughts and the wonder and power of creation resides in nature. We are nature, so God is in us, and He goes through stars, dust and everything created in the same way he goes through everywhere and everyone. But “evolution” and EGO took us to a level of noise that prevents us of living life as it is, or in other words, prevents us of living God as It is. To finish I would say that our consciousness is maybe a phase in which we can only contemplate the way It is, not to understand where it comes from, or why. It’s marvelous to see God in its natural way. How flowers grow, how “death” brings “life”, how perfect is the process of creation of life… bringing those elementals, problems of daily life seem to have simpler solutions, it’s easier to forgive, to understand, to heal, to love.
Seems like you tapped into a glimpse of a higher consciousness. I always thought that if we can think it, it can be done but we don't have the knowledge or wisdom. As a species we are not ready to permanently achieve this mental state.
You don't have to do a hardcore drug to find the meaning of life. Simply open up your Bible. There are many religions. But just like there are many God's also. There can only be 1 God. With that being said it also brings only 1 true religion on earth today! Those people who carry the true God' name are hated by the world because they sperate themselves from the world. Also the fruits of a religion expose it's true intentions so be on the look out for that. If a government has to ban a religion that means the world is persecuting God's true people. Which by that, you should know which religion is the only
@@uchihaclan77 A hardcore drug??? You understand that dmt is naturally produced in deep levels of sleep right. I think you don't know what you are talking about and you want others to succumb to a book that was created by people and refined and edited over time to gain peoples blind trust and make them all feel as if they need to live a certain way so they can not live in fear for what awaits on the other side. Basically a great way to passively strong arm people into following an agenda. The only thing I will say that will be positive to you is that the bible has some statements in it that can be morally good and can guide people to become better people and I'm not saying that jesus may not have been real or that there isn't any creator at all but both bibles are definitely not fully accurate and they end up getting taking to heart by some because it's being praised on such a mass scale and people end up judging and hating others over it and telling others they should live like this and that they are sinners and they are going to burn in hell and I'm going to pray for them like those people aren't right and they are somehow better. That which some wanted to create peace has created it's own evil. These religious beliefs have went to a lot of peoples heads and has bred lots of hatred against one another. Think of the crusades, that's a perfect example. And I'm not saying there is no good and kind religious people out there, of course there is. Sadly I meet very very few amongst the whole of religious people and yes there are groups of extremely kind and sweet religious people but of the majority it's a lot of division between them and all the so called "sinners".
The thing that is most interesting to me is the non physical aspects of it. Mind things like emotions memories thoughts, perception. These things are written off as a human constructs or byproduct of the physical, but I think they are something more fundamental to everything. Like they are another vital component of true reality, like the laws of nature are to the physical world.
we have always thought we are on the brink of discovering something truly world altering but after that we'll realize once again that we haven't even reached the driveway. it's truly beautiful and truly wretched.
When you get there you'll realize they were resurrecting the sun "I was just an only child of the universe And then I found you, and then I found you You are the sun and I am just the planets Spinning around you, spinning around you" "I am a collapsing star with tunnel vision But only for you, but only for you My head is stripped, just like a screw that's been tightened too many times When I think of you, when I think of you" "I'm here, at the beginning of the end Oh, the end of infinity with you I'm done with having dreams, the thing that I believe Oh, you drain all the fear from me" czcams.com/video/7YAAyUFL1GQ/video.html
I've done my fair share with psychedelics and watched/listened to a lot of people talk about their experiences but never heard of anyone meditating on them. I used to sit inside my walk in closet on my lsd trips and meditate. And let me tell ya, just when I thought tripping recreationally was extraordinary, meditating on it is 25x crazier. Has anyone else done that?
Yes. Not with LSD, though. There is a hallucinogen I often use for meditation enhancement (I can't tell you which substance, it's a secret). I always do it alone, isolated and in secrecy. Normally, this substance makes time seem to go faster, but when I meditate it goes the opposite way. So, usually, I look at my watch and 30 minutes have passed, but I felt like only 10 minutes have passed. But if I deliberately meditate under the influence, then 30 minutes feel like 5 hours. So, it's kind of like it's stretching my meditation session. Also, last trip I felt I was in a waiting room with other people meditating with me. It was a very bright place. This was just my thought, not closed eye visuals nor opened eye visuals, just thought. But felt almost as palpable and real as the external world. When I talk about meditation, I am usually referring to mantra reciting (in silence, just mentally repeating) or another similar focus-oriented meditation and internally oriented. But I also do kasina meditation where you focus on some external object (at least to my current understanding, I am a beginner). Last trip I also tried that kasina thing and to my surprise my heart beat would speed up while I was focusing on this water bottle I put in front of me on the floor (I was sitting on the floor in lotus position). When I stopped focusing on it, my heart beat would slow down. Really weird. Still want to know what was up with that lol.
i’m forever surprised how rare it is for someone to use these tools of introspection properly at this present moment, there’s the external world, & when you close your eyes it disappears into absence with certain tools, the perception of the external world is surely altered.. but when one closes their eyes, a visual interface of internal dimensions are revealed the tools are oriented towards accessing inner space, but the identity gets caught up in sensory perception the very purpose of identity, is to get caught up in sensory perception isolating & transmuting sensory perception is the purpose of isolation tanks. floating, body temperature salt water, lost awareness of the skin threshold that separates inner & outer space if one simply isolates their senses from external perception for long enough… a full blown inner psychedelic reality is revealed, without any external tools 🧙🏻♂️❤️🔥🥷🏻
Bufo sent me into the abyss & beyond. What a journey. The usual sensations from psychedelics were amplified into the cosmos. This was the single most intense experience I've had. The significance of our anthill became exceedingly finite & insignificant. Our own significance is created through our limited interaction within reality. I also began to recognize the power of consciousness. Human consciousness is incomprehensible in its potential. We can create entire multiverses within an instant & transcend time & space within our minds. If only we believe.
I've always believed there was something there. But that we, in our current physical form, aren't meant to understand what the "beyond" is. We just gotta stop worrying about stupid things & be good to everyone around you.
I felt high (out of this world) just listening to this. I remember how strange it felt when my spirit/conciousness was slowly migrating back into my physical form after my first k hole experience. I can't even imagine coming back after Bufo😳
I had a good trip with 0.8 g dried mushrooms ( happy and dancing) and bad trip with 2.00 g dried mushroom. (Dealing with weird shapes and alien spiders) but I appreciate my bad trip more coz toward the end, i started this realization about issues surrounding my life, work, family and figuring the best options how to deal with my kids. And to stay at my current job as i enjoy it and many other things. I needed that trip.
I experienced the love of Angels, Mother Mary's aura of love that cannot possibly be described.... they just radiate love that covers every single part of your body inside an out...I feel sad for people who claim not to believe but I hope that they do someday find The Truth and that they experience that type of love... Peace
Mary isn't the Christ... stop confusing Mary with God... God is Love... Mary isn't. Mary didn't sacrifice herself Agapicly to transform mankind... and grant them Forgiving Love... Mary didn't teach The Way... Mary isn't The Way or the Truth. I rebuke the evil catholic propaganda.
@@Chipwhitley274 well I'm sorry my amazing and loving experience does not match your beliefs... I'm not trying to spread "catholic propaganda" I know the difference between the Trinity and Mary and the Angels, only by experiencing something like I did you would understand....Love Thy Neighbor includes loving the people that you don't agree with btw...Peace
@@julesCapulet, And yet... you claim it was the love of Mary... not Christ... which isn't possible... because Mary isn't omnipresent... Mary isn't the source of the Agapic Love that flows through us when in the Spirit. Catholicism uses Mary to draw focus from Christ and His true purpose... by elevating her above her role... along with the veneration of saints... create a watered down placebo faith... which is consistent with their historical suppression of the holy communion... the communion which you blasphemously attribute to Mary... instead of Christ... Satan and his creation of Catholicism still have their grip on you... dutifully distorting the truth... And I love by rebuking the work of Satan... And I experienced ego death... I experienced the Immensity... the infinite possibilities and the Light and love through Christ... I died and was born again... If you had experienced what I experienced... you wouldn't blasphemously equate that level of powerful Love with the love of a mere human woman...
Once on salvia, I lived a life as every single hair on my head, and we would all get together and chant, "When all is done, we shall live again inside the head. We shall live again inside the head. We shall live again inside the head." And lo and behold, they were correct. We are, in fact, living inside my head. Weird as it sounds, I'm real respectful about shaving now. Edit: because I know someone's going to ask, yes I would advocate trying salvia once or twice if you think you can handle it. It's not "profound" or "insightful" the way classical hallucinogens can be, but it's weird and powerful enough that it will make you question literally everything in a way that *can* be healthy. I wouldn't recommend smoking it hundreds of times like I did, because you may very well develop a weird paranoia that the universe will literally unzip on you at any moment. But that's my cross to bear. I can tell you with some certainty, no matter how much you take it, it will never make any more sense. If anything, it just gets weirder. I would also recommend chewing it the way the Mazatecs do. It's a much more chill and integrative experience (compared to smoking). As one wise man on Erowid once said, "You don't smoke this plant. It smokes you."
@@scottcantdance804 I was smoking it regularly in high school (circa 2006). Did you ever mix it with blue lotus or lily by chance? I found that to be a very interesting combination. It could literally make the raw plant matter feel like 10-20x.
What Joe Rogan talked about with increasing complexity of life is basically Hinduism from India, becoming self-actualized and breaking out of the Samsara. Becoming one with the cosmic being, that is literally what the Ancient Indian Scriptures talk about.
“The universe is a machine for the making of Gods” - Henri Bergson The *actual* quote is a little bit different, but that is essentially the last line in the last book he authored, before his death in 1941. The Two Sources of Morality and Religion. Check it out. His other major works, especially Creative Evolution, are all mind blowing as well (though I had too difficult a time reading Time and Free Will. Couldn’t get through it all. Maybe it was just the translation?)
They were resurrecting the sun "I was just an only child of the universe And then I found you, and then I found you You are the sun and I am just the planets Spinning around you, spinning around you" "I am a collapsing star with tunnel vision But only for you, but only for you My head is stripped, just like a screw that's been tightened too many times When I think of you, when I think of you" "I'm here, at the beginning of the end Oh, the end of infinity with you I'm done with having dreams, the thing that I believe Oh, you drain all the fear from me" czcams.com/video/7YAAyUFL1GQ/video.html
@HomesliceDrummer “bring all people to *a level of* deity” and “God’s ways and commandments are *specifically designed to bless and exhale us* in the eternities” Thanks for the comment. I’d really like it if you could expand, maybe go into more detail on this! It certainly feels as though what you’re describing there is of major importance. Thanks!
@HomesliceDrummer this sounds a lot like Reincarnation; how, after death, you undergo another form of existence which is either better or worse, depending on how you lived life prior. The differences between what you’re saying and Reincarnation are clear, but we notice these differences only as a consequence of the similarities. So: after death, do we go somewhere else? Where will the faithful be after death, exactly? And the unfaithful? Why does salvation / restoration of the mind and body occur gradually over time rather than immediately? How? And on this particular point, how do you know? The word of God? If so, a book? Or is this something you’ve personally worked out?
@HomesliceDrummer The christian god makes no sense and the christian doctorine is in many ways incompatible with our values today. Sexism and homophobia is incompatible with modern society yet it's in the bible. The concept of blind trust to a deity that has never shown yourself to you in any real way is ridiculous to modern people, we have science we rely on it and we just don't trust things blindly. I don't see how the christian god can exist, if he did these scriptures would be pass the test of time, but they have not. If he did and he is as we know him to be from the christian scriptures we should be terrified cause he is a sadistic tyrant. The world is becoming more secular and that's for the best. Religion is used as a tool to manipulate and hurt people, and these people are usually from marginalized groups like the women in Iran. This is unacceptable and thats why religion will ultimately fail.
Synchronicity. The cosmos seems to be creating itself eternally through the process of synchronicity. Infinite contrast and the synching up of attractors to each other.
I had 2 dmt experiences this past week and I experienced something similar to what Joe is talking about, I saw how the ultimate goal was a divine unity and the trip itself showed me how different religions interpret that believe
@@freetinkerer3878 probably mankinds unity when majority hits Gods frequency without questioning just feeling it. There will be ones leftout by their own will.
@@megaape For sure, but he also said that he is love, He is the way the truth and the light, and light is a frequency the opposite frequency as the dark. I've experienced God before I took dmt when I first truly prayed, and it was the craziest feeling I've had by far, I thought I was dying but it was amazing how good it felt, 100% sober in jail to. I've also experienced attacks by things that weren't on Gods side and it was the worst thing I have ever experienced, things that were there that my brain wouldn't even let my eyes look at, I felt like a helpless animal stalked by a predator that was straight evil and wanted nothing but the worst for me, after those 2 experiences that were weeks within each other I choose the light, easy choice!
Use to work with a old guy who told me he would spend time with the lord every night and it really helped him sleep better. A few months later he told me he drank Lord Calvert.
When I would say ayahuasca was part of my encounter with God it was actually the first time I felt his force and love, when my curiosity to know him more was triggered and it let me to find a home in the religion Christianity ✝️ when I tell my brothers and sisters from church ayahuasca Is my testimony they kinda amaze but it’s true and know that I know from God he is the one that put me there because he knew my lack of faith and everything led to another thing till i started my journey in the walk with God Jesus Christ im so blessed and thank God he had mercy for me and gave this opportunity to meet him and still walk by his side 🙏🙏✝️
You are not the only one who has had experiences with ayahuasca, and transformed into Christianity... I definitely believed in God, but I didn't fully believe in christianity or Christ. But that changed
I'm so sorry you ended up in the church, if it works for you, more power to you I guess. But the last place one should be looking for God is in Christianity. It is an insidious mind virus and a prison for human growth and enlightenment.
That's very true and important for people to understand. You will see unbelievably incredible things on DMT, you might see angels, you might experience heaven, but you also might experience demons, you might be surgically operated on by insectoid aliens, etc. It is always an ineffable and incredibly complex and mind-blowing experience, but it can be that way in a positive OR a negative way. Set and setting plays a large role, in my experience.
Dude literally says he took multiple trips to get where he's at.. everytime I hear someone talking about it they always mention multiple uses.. I've never heard it was a once and done thing.
The best part of Psychedelics is that they take you in the company of the Gods but the sad part is you won't stay there. is that the right quote? heard somewhere on JRE
I randomly listened to Joel osteen’s message on TV one day and since then have not stopped listening. He has helped me get through very tough times while in college. I would encourage everyone to listen to a few of his messages. He actually makes people better. This world sure needs better humans. ❤️
Yea i like what he says but his actions are different. When there was a natural disaster he wouldn’t allow any of the people in the city to take refuge in the church. Not very godly
The answer to Joe’s question @5:12 is YES!! And he is far from the first person to posit that idea- significant fathers of early Christianity discussed that precise idea as a natural consequence of the fact that we are literal children of God!! What do all offspring grow up to be!!?? 🌞🌞🌞
It’s hard to say what’s it all and get an answer, when your no truly ready or willing to accept the answer. We want the answer to be in conjunction with what we’re currently doing and tend to shun that which points to correction. The truth comes as we have a true desire and real intent.
Just in case anyone is curious. Yes, all employees who work for any church have to pay taxes on their personal income. Just as any non-profit organization, there are times where people who work in a church can have access to funds or assets of that church. There are some really bad non-profits out there, including churches , that take advantage of their donors. The laws governing non-profit orgs could probably use some adjustments. But I think it should be said that most churches and non-profits struggle to pay bills and get by. The Joel Osteen's of the world give the incorrect impression that taxing churches would be a significant gain to the taxation system, as the vast majority do not turn a profit. (btw I am not religious and don't go to church, I'm just familiar with the topic)
“There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously - no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption.” ― C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory
My First salvia experience was instant ego death and he also experienced nonexistence no understanding of anything and I quit Doing all drugs for like six months before I felt comfortable doing anything again it was like a reset button for my brain and I’ve never felt the same since I’ve done it now I did salvia six more times but that first time and the other six times were just horrific experiences absolutely the worst way to experience ego death
I think the "meaning" of life is totally subjective in every human. The way to find the answer is to ask yourself "why do I choose to go on living", and then contemplate that through meditation. You'll begin to digging into who you are until you find a purpose... in my opinion
Neal thinks differently on damn near most the stuff they talked about within That podcast but I’ve never seen someone respectfully disagree with someone as well as Neal
Kinda sounds to me like he was experiencing becoming the void and coming to grips with what that actually means. The experience that one might call god (even though it's technically nothing yet everything all at once) feels like love because connecting with anything other than what it views as itself and the constant feeling of the absolute nothing that the void provides is completely amazing...the best feeling... like coming home to the most loving and comforting mother/partner.
Realizing we are the void makes us lose that feeling however... and when too many parts of us lose that old nostalgia we will have to forget again and start over. no one wants to play chess by themselves... games aren't as fun when you write them, develop them and play all the starring roles in them while realizing it's your reflection you are killing. booorrring wink wink
That's why the ones in the know keep us divided and fighting. If we all came together and realized what and who we actually are then it's all over. reset is sadly inevitable however.
We use code words like "The Great Reset" because we know that it's coming. We are slowly realizing that we are all one being dreaming up the infinite in the void and that's the one thing we never want to admit to ourselves. We will deny that reality at any cost... and do whatever it takes to forget that fact... even if it means wiping our collective memories like we did 12,000 years ago. (even though time is just a construct that we devised for the sake of plot)
What Joe Rogan talked about is basically Hinduism from India, becoming sel-actualized and breaking out of the Samsara. Becoming one with the cosmic being, that is literally what the Ancient Indian Scriptures talk about.
The preacher pays taxes on their personal income, the church property as long as it's used as a worship facility does not pay taxes. If a church owns apartments buildings or rental properties, or something similar, they pay taxes on it.
During my 6th ketamine session(at a medically supervised clinic), God held me in his hands. He filled me with love, understanding, and compassion. I had been depressed most of my life due to my dad committing suicide and my mom not being able to function after that. This God experience has completely transformed my life for the better. My depression has been in remission for 4 months now! Psychedelics are literally a miracle!
My dad was murdered in 2019 and I’ve heard that ayahuasca can allow one to to meet with their ancestors. I just want the chance to be able to talk to my dad one last time. Would you recommend that I do it?
God loves you.
Jesus loves you.
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@@LB-ie3sc it's very risky knowing other entities might take advantage of you. Just pray for him it's never going to be enough.
There is no god, you're mentally ill.
Finally! Someone is talking about ayahuasca on Joe's podcast. It's about time.
Do you have a job?
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I know right, im hoping someone talks about DMT sometime soon , ive been waiting for what seems like forever
Talks about it all the time..
I’m relieved to hear someone else had the incomprehensible feeling besides me.
I tried ayahuasca for the first time a few months ago and one of my profound takeaways was that this “divine energy” or “God” is and always will be incomprehensible to us at least while we’re in this mortal flesh.
I've probably triples more than 50 times. The takeaway for me was you are god. It's just one consciousness spreading out into everything. Technically you are playing with yourself
@@minotaur55 one of the first things that happened when I started tripping was I looked in the mirror and I was Jesus. I wonder if it was my brains way of interpreting that we’re all God.
It's a very strong drug
@@minotaur55 So if I create a robot, will it be a God aka have human status?
Nah, I wouldn't say we are god per say. That breeds egotistic people. But hey, it's you vision.
Once while meditating I reached such a deep state, a lotus flower rose in consciousness and started answering all my questions, it seemed to know everything, but I could not retain and understand it all, but I had this overwhelming feeling that it was also me and that I knew everything deep down and that there was nothing to worry about.
As THEY say "All is in the All and the All is in All".
Wow. Thank you for sharing that! God bless you. 🙏❤️
"worrying about the wrong stuff" I think is going to be one of the biggest revelations for people when they die.
If such a thing exists... It might, ironically, be the best part of life... Like taking off a tight shoe. But not forever. As all things are *becoming*
And energy is eternal *8*
When that moment becomes known, and you're following the light in the tunnel to be trapped into reincarnation... turn around and gaze in wonder at what you see behind you.
and ignoring "essential stuff" that is unpleasant just as profound.
8:06 whats wite whats wong?
I don’t need drugs to understand this. Wish people saw that too.
@@Heopful Thank you for your service!! Haha
I've never tried Ayahuasca but Bufo Alvarius is strong as hell.
I had an experience with it about a month ago and it's the closest thing to dying and being born again.
During that process , the part of your brain you use to think is gone, so I was forced to just Feel reality, until I experienced the Divine character of my mere existence.which I can only describe as feeling that every living thing contains a part of what we call God. It's a life changing experience.
Wow... Seems crazy. The way they talk about it, it seems like this is the final boss of psychedelics... You take it and you cross a bridge that cannot be uncrossed. How do you feel it impacted your life?
I bet
@@franciscoferraz6788 from that day on I've been clean of alcohol, before that I had been going to bed drunk every single day for 15 years. It also turned off a radio station in my head constantly bringing up negative thoughts from the past, present and future. So now I have a peace of mind that lets me see things in a more constructive way. It's not like this is going to magically solve all your problems it's more like a tool that lets you "reset" yourself as if you were born again to a fresh start. I'm still processing the experience
@@boloniok that’s awesome man. I did a few times and it has literally made me the exact same person just with the innate awareness of no matter what you do in life you’re going to die at some point so just do whatever you want
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This is why I love Joe Rogan. Also, Neal Brennan always one of my favorite guests. Seems like a very genuine person.
A bona-fide person, absolutely.
Joe Roan with his dumbbbbb thoughts..
Well grounded conversation. A seed ends up in the ground and grows. You see what's on top and forget about what you can't see.
Neal said, "... this is what I experienced; it's not true or false". That's pure wisdom.
Nope
You can absolutely “experience” false things and if you use hallucinogenic drugs then everything you experience is questionable at best and false at worst…
@@DeadSlayer0683 lol no, at worst questionable and that's a big jump, you're assuming basic experiences of your own personal default view/experiences then not understanding that they themselves are no different by your logic
Hello from Tokyo! Huge part of my PTSD and addictions treatment is listening to Joe Rpgan podcasts. I am out of Benzodiazepine after 20 years (of daily use) for 8 months now. Listening to the chaotic, free, non really structuralized but somehow deep in basic moral, and full of accepting of humans as they are - attitude has better healing effects than anything I tried during the last decades. The humor and let’s not take this world too seriously perspective also plays its role I think. This man is a treasure. I will probably never meet him in my life in person, but he plays big role anyways in my life. Arigatou gozaimasu!
20 years on benzos? Wow, congratulations on getting clean. Benzo withdrawal is no joke. I had a severe physical addiction to alcohol for about 1.5 years, and the withdrawals were hell on Earth. Cold sweats, visual/auditory hallucinations, shaking uncontrollably, etc. So glad I made it out of that hell. At first, alcohol helped my anxiety but only made it much worse in the long run. I can't imagine 20 years of that.
@@jazzfeline5970 Fortunately the withdrawal was relatively smooth, but tons of different support including intensive exercise, hot/cold therapy, fasting and kampo medicine (used mainly in Japan) was necessary. But what you described with the anxiety softening is exactly what I experienced too. It helps first but it's a brutal ruthless trap in the long term.
Which benzo? How did you get off? Taper?
Hello there, just wandered why no diazepam?
I was addicted to heroin and crack for 30 years so I no what a rattles about. I have been heroin free nearly 3 years in April but fair play girl. Was it your own choice to blank the pills?
It’s good to see that Joe is trying to find meeting in life. I pray God reveals himself to him.
yea hes definitely slow thinking that we are evolving amobeas, DMT is the opposite, it reveals that we are absolutely NOTHING, our physicality has nothing to do with our divine purpose, its our soul and the afterlife is what matters, not this vapious degenerate reality we dwell in
You're way below the mark there tesla the mission is to know he's unknowable and if you read the book properly you'll know the infinite impossibly of whatever happens after all this.
And there are many of us that hope beyond hope that humans can grow up and stop praying and start doing.
Love ya Joe! Thanks for being real for all us bro
I felt like a molecule in an energy stream flowing through the universe. I’ve only gotten the feeling once but everything felt like it was ok and made sense. I don’t believe in organized religion (though it does help a lot of people) but I feel like there is something we are all a part of
I think that is what death will be like too.
@Diyor
Your prophet was not a holy man. He was terrible human being.
Jesus was by far the better human, and I say that as a person who isn't Christian.
@@SonoftheAllfather to know the righteousness of YAHUAH CHRIST and not be following the truth the way and the life. Why is that my brother what keeps you from humbling yourself and accepting the free gift of life given by our LORD AND SAVIOR. ✝️🙏
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Because it's not what I believe. I believe in a greater power, but not the Abrahamic God or any of the dogmas that are based on that God. I have nothing against people who do, but I certainly have my criticisms of the dogma itself, especially scripture.
@@SonoftheAllfather I personally just don’t see a greater power than YAH the GOD OF LOVE. There’s no better human being to follow and learn from than YAHUAH CHRIST. His Holy Spirit gifts us with his traits learning and applying his teaching in our daily life. All praises to the most high GOD the alpha and omega. Once you truly understand and follow the teaching of YAH you will see the GOD OF LOVE is like no other! Peace health and blessing be with you my brother in humanity may one day YAH open your eyes and heart to his perfect love so you may pick up your cross and follow him daily ✝️❤️🙏
I did ayahuasca a lot at 18, but nothing beats acid, lsd made me want to study computer science and help me cure my depression. Love you all and have safe trips :)
I would argue the opposite. I did 6 ayahuasca ceremonies, each of them 3 nights, and countless times of acid, psylocibin, MDMA under the same predisposed attempt of opening myself to spiritually rather than just going to party - altho I also used them for partying with the exception of Ayahuasca . I did use DMT for partying though. - and in my experiences Ayahuasca takes you deeper than any other. Having said this, there is no point in partaking these substances and actually experience dissolution of the ego but not practice it and take on the lessons on to our normal daily lives because then it becomes just a thing we did. Nothing was learned. Just like watching a film nothing more. These substances have the power for much more. I am glad you took something out of it. :)
Yeah different things with different properties have different effects. I like all of them, but L.S.D. and psylocibin, at least for me, does have very positive emotional effects and mind clearing effects.
Wish I could find some lol. I guess I'll have to learn to make my own 🤷♂️
Have a safe trip
I'm sure your brain won't be jacked in 40 years....
you're 110% true!!
I've had these type of feelings come completely sober, I just simply denied my ego and desires and that feeling of unexplainable connection with God will come naturally.
I love a theory that kinda makes sense. We all have them but sometimes one just feels like the truth. And the Truth always likes somewhere in the middle.
Regardless of churches or religion, taxation is theft
Shhh don't be spouting sense. Its dangerous.
Preach!!!!
oddly we revolted from a monarchy and submitted to psychopaths.
There are a bunch of issues with taxing religions. There are plenty of examples in European history (and elsewhere) of kings or governments deciding to go ahead and tax a religion, and then finding that the spigot is too tempting to turn off. And so they keep turning it higher and higher and higher.
There are also too many instances of governments or kings wanting to suppress specific religions or denominations and using taxes and property seizure in order to do it.
Are some of these religions financial scams? Totally.
But we all know that once the government decides to tax something, they never stop. If they ever give themselves a power, they never curtail it, they only grow it.
The moment they decide to start taxing religions or churches, that will be the nail in the coffin for freedom of religion.
Not theft. It’s extortion. Theft stealing without the threat of violence. So if I walk into your house and take something that’s stealing. The state doesn’t just take your money. They threaten to kidnap you into a cage (ironically paid for by taxes) if you don’t pay them.
Just watched his special the other day and it got real deep at the end. I was just sitting in silence for like 20 minutes after it.
I felt compassion for him when he shared the video of his treatments.
What, out of utter boredom like me, or just resentment over wasting that time you'll never get back?
@@kevinlakeman5043 pretty much lol
His special? What's it called?
@@daks8888 blocks on Netflix
"And the light shineth into the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not".
- The Word, that was made flesh and dwelt among us 33 AD
I love Neil - constantly looking for more Neil stand up
his new netflix special
“blocks” is quality
This is my daily experience, just as Joe described it. There is a pattern of change in the universe, It is constantly at work and our individual lives are collectively making it happen. Its truly beautiful.
I was told you have 4 comments before mine. Humans suck, God happened.
Also did you delete mine? Governor?
"The understanding of reality, lies beyond the capability of rational thought ". Gary Zukav. BNW # 31. Peace.
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Sometimes you love to hear guests' takes, sometimes you love when they pick Joe's brain on stuff, and if it's the latter Brennan is THE choice to go with.
Neil was getting somewhere, and joe like always takes over and strangled the conversation. He had to interject, as he always does, and rant a mr know it all bit. This time because a former atheist was explaining HIS transition to a believer. Joe just had to. Damn it.
#Hinduism knows about these energies in detail through hardcore rishis and yogies
Creation energy = Brahma
Maintenance energy= vishnu
Dissolving the whole creation=shiva
On my 4th or 5th ketamine session I got a SHIT LOAD. The doctor was even like "we give a lot more than the other guys" with a wink. And of course in the trip I "died", became one with the universe, understood God, "everything is everything" etc but I still compare the concept to some dreams. In the moment of a dream, be it something bad happening, or impossible in the dream, you're absolutely sure this is happening. It's absolutely real almost every time, aside from lucid dreams...until you wake up. They were great experiences, but I can't objectively say looking back that I found the secret information, etc. I'm still just "who knows". But if these experiences can convince you to believe in God, or give more love to the world, then it is by far good for humanity.
Everything you just said Joe, is explained in the emerald tablets. We are all just a cell in the process of existence. Each one of us is a universe unto ourselves. Each atom in our body contains the power of a star. Love these topics.
Yet people out here working for minimum wage, lmao Ok
Psychedelics from my recent experiences (experimented as a younger man) have helped me so much, I suffered terribly for years with depression and anxiety even more so, my mental health has become so much better. LSD especially, for me, can be such a profound enlightening experience and changes your whole outlook. I've never felt so close to "God" and so at one with the world. Ego death is such a beautiful thing. It has also made me realise that other recreational drugs do not come close and I no longer take anything and haven't done so for quite some time. Such a profound, emotive, spiritual experience, teaches you a lot about yourself, not to be taken lightly admittedly but in my experience has helped me no end, I will take a "trip" maybe once a couple of months and in between them I am content and feel more spiritual and relaxed with myself and abstain from all other substances including alcohol with ease. Because once you know that such a beautiful, enriching experience can be had with psychedelics nothing compares or appeals....from my experience.
Lord of Spirits podcast will definitely help y’all understand how Old and New Testaments are reconciled and the different storylines running my through the Bible. Incredible stuff.
Can you recommend an episode?
Checking it out now. Thanks for the recommendation.
I will check it out. Sounds interesting
Is it on Spotify or CZcams?
for real. totally perfect
Realizing we aren’t the most powerful being fills you with contentment.
Joe's monologue later on in the conversation is hilarious 😂😂
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@@sheristevens7321 shut up feds
Neal goes in depth on his trip that made him a believer in his previous appearance on JRE. I highly recommend it!!
sad that he's wrong. It's the act of believing that is the magic, not what you believe. he totally just limited himself spiritually in the realest way by settling on christianity. God is NOT outside of us. At all. God permeates everything and we are all gods as we can tap into that power in it's infinite open ended creativity.
spot on. 100% right
@@charlespancamo9771 He never said it was the Christian religion specifically, he said it was a "central creation force".
@@charlespancamo9771 I’ve not listened to the podcast. But does he mention being Christian or Christ?
@@charlespancamo9771 like you know anything
Once again, addicted to this amazing podcast. But in this only time, I will introduce my opinion as I had this same Ayuasca experience, more than once. Far from comparing the number of times you've taken it in terms on meeting God, this experience made me meet Him, not in a conceptual term, but rather in a natural concept. If I were asked same question," ¿what's the purpose of creation now you have experienced Ayahuasca or somehow even meeting/knowing/understanding God in a different way?" well... Purpose of creation or life has three different problems 1. Purpose of human and conscious life 2. Purpose of the creation of All itself, and 3. the problem of anthropocentric consciousness that delimits every religion and ideology accepted nowadays. We haven’t officially recognized a different consciousness in terms of knowing the “I”, the “Why”, the good and bad, or the purposes of the creation. I did have a deep introspective analysis of behaviors and feelings lived, and I understood the “because” of them; it definitely helps to forgive and heal. But other than that, as Brennan said, you feel the power of creation, and it’s beyond this trivial and sometimes minuscule individual problems…. It goes as complex and simple at the same time. Same as Mandelbrot set or even meditation, apparently the most basic patterns and concepts are the ones that defines it all in a very incomprehensible way to our human living mind. I think we are not created (or our human life phase is not meant) to understand it all, at least in our human brain. Although we have always attached Evolution to Life… maybe evolution is not an only conscious life thing, death can be the perfect moment in which evolution of energy takes us to another level of understanding. In any case I could see that the secret is not the beginning or the end (purpose) of life.. its rather the real present and how life its life itself in every second… secrets are behind the silence of thoughts and the wonder and power of creation resides in nature. We are nature, so God is in us, and He goes through stars, dust and everything created in the same way he goes through everywhere and everyone. But “evolution” and EGO took us to a level of noise that prevents us of living life as it is, or in other words, prevents us of living God as It is. To finish I would say that our consciousness is maybe a phase in which we can only contemplate the way It is, not to understand where it comes from, or why. It’s marvelous to see God in its natural way. How flowers grow, how “death” brings “life”, how perfect is the process of creation of life… bringing those elementals, problems of daily life seem to have simpler solutions, it’s easier to forgive, to understand, to heal, to love.
Seems like you tapped into a glimpse of a higher consciousness. I always thought that if we can think it, it can be done but we don't have the knowledge or wisdom. As a species we are not ready to permanently achieve this mental state.
Absolute drivel just like from an acidhead. Just a little poison in the brain.
You don't have to do a hardcore drug to find the meaning of life. Simply open up your Bible. There are many religions. But just like there are many God's also. There can only be 1 God. With that being said it also brings only 1 true religion on earth today! Those people who carry the true God' name are hated by the world because they sperate themselves from the world. Also the fruits of a religion expose it's true intentions so be on the look out for that. If a government has to ban a religion that means the world is persecuting God's true people. Which by that, you should know which religion is the only
@@uchihaclan77 A hardcore drug??? You understand that dmt is naturally produced in deep levels of sleep right. I think you don't know what you are talking about and you want others to succumb to a book that was created by people and refined and edited over time to gain peoples blind trust and make them all feel as if they need to live a certain way so they can not live in fear for what awaits on the other side. Basically a great way to passively strong arm people into following an agenda. The only thing I will say that will be positive to you is that the bible has some statements in it that can be morally good and can guide people to become better people and I'm not saying that jesus may not have been real or that there isn't any creator at all but both bibles are definitely not fully accurate and they end up getting taking to heart by some because it's being praised on such a mass scale and people end up judging and hating others over it and telling others they should live like this and that they are sinners and they are going to burn in hell and I'm going to pray for them like those people aren't right and they are somehow better. That which some wanted to create peace has created it's own evil. These religious beliefs have went to a lot of peoples heads and has bred lots of hatred against one another. Think of the crusades, that's a perfect example. And I'm not saying there is no good and kind religious people out there, of course there is. Sadly I meet very very few amongst the whole of religious people and yes there are groups of extremely kind and sweet religious people but of the majority it's a lot of division between them and all the so called "sinners".
The thing that is most interesting to me is the non physical aspects of it. Mind things like emotions memories thoughts, perception. These things are written off as a human constructs or byproduct of the physical, but I think they are something more fundamental to everything. Like they are another vital component of true reality, like the laws of nature are to the physical world.
Joe we appreciate you brother!
we have always thought we are on the brink of discovering something truly world altering but after that we'll realize once again that we haven't even reached the driveway. it's truly beautiful and truly wretched.
When you get there you'll realize they were resurrecting the sun
"I was just an only child of the universe
And then I found you, and then I found you
You are the sun and I am just the planets
Spinning around you, spinning around you"
"I am a collapsing star with tunnel vision
But only for you, but only for you
My head is stripped, just like a screw that's been tightened too many times
When I think of you, when I think of you"
"I'm here, at the beginning of the end
Oh, the end of infinity with you
I'm done with having dreams, the thing that I believe
Oh, you drain all the fear from me"
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I enjoy searching for God with all of you and Joe...
Joe trying to predict Evolution always makes me laugh 😂
Me too cause evolution doesn't exist.
@@57too Whatever you say, buddy.
Lfc exactly no different from bill gates talking medicine no degree no life exposure but self deemed expert?
Interesting reaction to different ideas. 🤔
Christianity talks about an upgrade. New body, new Heaven and new earth. And a connection with the ultimate power/Creator
I've done my fair share with psychedelics and watched/listened to a lot of people talk about their experiences but never heard of anyone meditating on them. I used to sit inside my walk in closet on my lsd trips and meditate. And let me tell ya, just when I thought tripping recreationally was extraordinary, meditating on it is 25x crazier. Has anyone else done that?
That’s what I thought too.
I just did a shroom trip in meditate state with my eyes closed and it a different thing.
@@Scrubbi_duey it’s a crazier trip within the trip isn’t it? It’s like literally exploring the universe , different realms, and meeting entities
Yes. Not with LSD, though.
There is a hallucinogen I often use for meditation enhancement (I can't tell you which substance, it's a secret). I always do it alone, isolated and in secrecy.
Normally, this substance makes time seem to go faster, but when I meditate it goes the opposite way. So, usually, I look at my watch and 30 minutes have passed, but I felt like only 10 minutes have passed. But if I deliberately meditate under the influence, then 30 minutes feel like 5 hours. So, it's kind of like it's stretching my meditation session.
Also, last trip I felt I was in a waiting room with other people meditating with me. It was a very bright place. This was just my thought, not closed eye visuals nor opened eye visuals, just thought. But felt almost as palpable and real as the external world.
When I talk about meditation, I am usually referring to mantra reciting (in silence, just mentally repeating) or another similar focus-oriented meditation and internally oriented. But I also do kasina meditation where you focus on some external object (at least to my current understanding, I am a beginner).
Last trip I also tried that kasina thing and to my surprise my heart beat would speed up while I was focusing on this water bottle I put in front of me on the floor (I was sitting on the floor in lotus position). When I stopped focusing on it, my heart beat would slow down. Really weird. Still want to know what was up with that lol.
i’m forever surprised how rare it is for someone to use these tools of introspection properly
at this present moment, there’s the external world, & when you close your eyes it disappears into absence
with certain tools, the perception of the external world is surely altered..
but when one closes their eyes, a visual interface of internal dimensions are revealed
the tools are oriented towards accessing inner space, but the identity gets caught up in sensory perception
the very purpose of identity, is to get caught up in sensory perception
isolating & transmuting sensory perception is the purpose of isolation tanks. floating, body temperature salt water, lost awareness of the skin threshold that separates inner & outer space
if one simply isolates their senses from external perception for long enough…
a full blown inner psychedelic reality is revealed, without any external tools
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Bufo sent me into the abyss & beyond. What a journey. The usual sensations from psychedelics were amplified into the cosmos. This was the single most intense experience I've had. The significance of our anthill became exceedingly finite & insignificant. Our own significance is created through our limited interaction within reality. I also began to recognize the power of consciousness. Human consciousness is incomprehensible in its potential. We can create entire multiverses within an instant & transcend time & space within our minds. If only we believe.
I've always believed there was something there. But that we, in our current physical form, aren't meant to understand what the "beyond" is. We just gotta stop worrying about stupid things & be good to everyone around you.
Exactly. ⚡⚡
It was mushrooms for me.
Mocked, joked, made fun of God and everyone who believed in God just this year…
God is real, I was wrong, and it’s aight. 🎶❤️
*An infinite living mind*
There is no God especially some magical white wizard in the sky.
@@AranRinzei He's not in the sky, God exists outside of space and time. The Sky Daddy meme bullshit is embarrassing.
@@FlaMan407 never said "skydaddy" did I but now that YOU mentioned it.
I felt high (out of this world)
just listening to this.
I remember how strange it felt when my spirit/conciousness was slowly migrating back into my physical form after my first k hole experience.
I can't even imagine coming back after Bufo😳
I had a good trip with 0.8 g dried mushrooms ( happy and dancing) and bad trip with 2.00 g dried mushroom. (Dealing with weird shapes and alien spiders) but I appreciate my bad trip more coz toward the end, i started this realization about issues surrounding my life, work, family and figuring the best options how to deal with my kids. And to stay at my current job as i enjoy it and many other things. I needed that trip.
Great vid joe
Makes sense that we can't fathom our creator the same way a creation of ours (art for example) can't fathom what we are.
God Bless You My Brothers! 🙏
Joe is often more articulate and insightful then his guests. This interview segment is a case in point.
I experienced the love of Angels, Mother Mary's aura of love that cannot possibly be described.... they just radiate love that covers every single part of your body inside an out...I feel sad for people who claim not to believe but I hope that they do someday find The Truth and that they experience that type of love... Peace
That sounds really nice. Getting any hallucinogenics where I am is so difficult 😭
@@josephsalmonte4995 I wasn't on any hallucinogen...I asked God for help while going through rock-bottom depression
Mary isn't the Christ... stop confusing Mary with God... God is Love... Mary isn't. Mary didn't sacrifice herself Agapicly to transform mankind... and grant them Forgiving Love... Mary didn't teach The Way... Mary isn't The Way or the Truth. I rebuke the evil catholic propaganda.
@@Chipwhitley274 well I'm sorry my amazing and loving experience does not match your beliefs... I'm not trying to spread "catholic propaganda" I know the difference between the Trinity and Mary and the Angels, only by experiencing something like I did you would understand....Love Thy Neighbor includes loving the people that you don't agree with btw...Peace
@@julesCapulet,
And yet... you claim it was the love of Mary... not Christ... which isn't possible... because Mary isn't omnipresent... Mary isn't the source of the Agapic Love that flows through us when in the Spirit.
Catholicism uses Mary to draw focus from Christ and His true purpose... by elevating her above her role... along with the veneration of saints... create a watered down placebo faith... which is consistent with their historical suppression of the holy communion... the communion which you blasphemously attribute to Mary... instead of Christ... Satan and his creation of Catholicism still have their grip on you... dutifully distorting the truth...
And I love by rebuking the work of Satan...
And I experienced ego death... I experienced the Immensity... the infinite possibilities and the Light and love through Christ... I died and was born again...
If you had experienced what I experienced... you wouldn't blasphemously equate that level of powerful Love with the love of a mere human woman...
Once on salvia, I lived a life as every single hair on my head, and we would all get together and chant, "When all is done, we shall live again inside the head. We shall live again inside the head. We shall live again inside the head."
And lo and behold, they were correct. We are, in fact, living inside my head.
Weird as it sounds, I'm real respectful about shaving now.
Edit: because I know someone's going to ask, yes I would advocate trying salvia once or twice if you think you can handle it. It's not "profound" or "insightful" the way classical hallucinogens can be, but it's weird and powerful enough that it will make you question literally everything in a way that *can* be healthy. I wouldn't recommend smoking it hundreds of times like I did, because you may very well develop a weird paranoia that the universe will literally unzip on you at any moment. But that's my cross to bear. I can tell you with some certainty, no matter how much you take it, it will never make any more sense. If anything, it just gets weirder.
I would also recommend chewing it the way the Mazatecs do. It's a much more chill and integrative experience (compared to smoking). As one wise man on Erowid once said, "You don't smoke this plant. It smokes you."
Salvia is definitely some of the weirdest stuff out there. I grew it back in high school, like '01-'02.
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@@scottcantdance804 I was smoking it regularly in high school (circa 2006). Did you ever mix it with blue lotus or lily by chance? I found that to be a very interesting combination. It could literally make the raw plant matter feel like 10-20x.
Smoking to much of something. 😵💫
How were you able to get it..
We are God's Joy. Even with all the ups and downs, He, like us, enjoys one another.
What Joe Rogan talked about with increasing complexity of life is basically Hinduism from India, becoming self-actualized and breaking out of the Samsara. Becoming one with the cosmic being, that is literally what the Ancient Indian Scriptures talk about.
I can’t wait for my Peru trip this month. Ayahuasca here I come
“The universe is a machine for the making of Gods” - Henri Bergson
The *actual* quote is a little bit different, but that is essentially the last line in the last book he authored, before his death in 1941. The Two Sources of Morality and Religion. Check it out. His other major works, especially Creative Evolution, are all mind blowing as well (though I had too difficult a time reading Time and Free Will. Couldn’t get through it all. Maybe it was just the translation?)
They were resurrecting the sun
"I was just an only child of the universe
And then I found you, and then I found you
You are the sun and I am just the planets
Spinning around you, spinning around you"
"I am a collapsing star with tunnel vision
But only for you, but only for you
My head is stripped, just like a screw that's been tightened too many times
When I think of you, when I think of you"
"I'm here, at the beginning of the end
Oh, the end of infinity with you
I'm done with having dreams, the thing that I believe
Oh, you drain all the fear from me"
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@HomesliceDrummer “bring all people to *a level of* deity” and “God’s ways and commandments are *specifically designed to bless and exhale us* in the eternities”
Thanks for the comment. I’d really like it if you could expand, maybe go into more detail on this! It certainly feels as though what you’re describing there is of major importance. Thanks!
@HomesliceDrummer this sounds a lot like Reincarnation; how, after death, you undergo another form of existence which is either better or worse, depending on how you lived life prior.
The differences between what you’re saying and Reincarnation are clear, but we notice these differences only as a consequence of the similarities.
So: after death, do we go somewhere else? Where will the faithful be after death, exactly? And the unfaithful?
Why does salvation / restoration of the mind and body occur gradually over time rather than immediately? How? And on this particular point, how do you know? The word of God? If so, a book? Or is this something you’ve personally worked out?
@HomesliceDrummer The christian god makes no sense and the christian doctorine is in many ways incompatible with our values today. Sexism and homophobia is incompatible with modern society yet it's in the bible. The concept of blind trust to a deity that has never shown yourself to you in any real way is ridiculous to modern people, we have science we rely on it and we just don't trust things blindly. I don't see how the christian god can exist, if he did these scriptures would be pass the test of time, but they have not. If he did and he is as we know him to be from the christian scriptures we should be terrified cause he is a sadistic tyrant. The world is becoming more secular and that's for the best. Religion is used as a tool to manipulate and hurt people, and these people are usually from marginalized groups like the women in Iran. This is unacceptable and thats why religion will ultimately fail.
Synchronicity. The cosmos seems to be creating itself eternally through the process of synchronicity. Infinite contrast and the synching up of attractors to each other.
I had 2 dmt experiences this past week and I experienced something similar to what Joe is talking about, I saw how the ultimate goal was a divine unity and the trip itself showed me how different religions interpret that believe
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What do you mean by divine unity? (I’ve done ayahuasca too- just asking because I’m curious)
@@freetinkerer3878 probably mankinds unity when majority hits Gods frequency without questioning just feeling it. There will be ones leftout by their own will.
Neil: I found god with Ayahuasca
Rogan: Yea ...we're amoeba's ...just really advanced ones.
Right?! Neil was really getting somewhere but uh hold on!…. Joe can’t have that God talk on his podcast and just strangled the conversation as usual.
Thank you Neal, Joe & Young Jaime, for another excellent podcast episode. 👏
You get understanding from living life
And you share the personal experience with the all and they with you by default.
On DMT , I realized that every experience is for our good and the universe is pure love
which would be God, because God is love, God is light, God is everything opposite of death, darkness, fear and despair...
@@jraddd3477 nah even the fear and despair and pain is love
@@jraddd3477 God is not what you think God is. God is what God is. That's why He said: I AM THAT I AM
@@megaape For sure, but he also said that he is love, He is the way the truth and the light, and light is a frequency the opposite frequency as the dark. I've experienced God before I took dmt when I first truly prayed, and it was the craziest feeling I've had by far, I thought I was dying but it was amazing how good it felt, 100% sober in jail to. I've also experienced attacks by things that weren't on Gods side and it was the worst thing I have ever experienced, things that were there that my brain wouldn't even let my eyes look at, I felt like a helpless animal stalked by a predator that was straight evil and wanted nothing but the worst for me, after those 2 experiences that were weeks within each other I choose the light, easy choice!
@@jraddd3477 but ya came out better and stronger and smarter and wiser God bless you
Joe’s approaching some LDS doctrine at the end of this
Yup, not too far off.
Hahahahahaahahahah im dying!
agreed. 1000% right!
Its so ridiculous that he would mock someone's beliefs in a second but if he comes up with it through some drug fueled trip then its acceptable
You don't need to take any hallucinogens to know there's God
I know exactly what Neal means. There is some ultimate force that holds this all together.
Neal !!!!!! This was a amazing convo about God and searching for the truth
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Use to work with a old guy who told me he would spend time with the lord every night and it really helped him sleep better. A few months later he told me he drank Lord Calvert.
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Joe that’s deep and powerful what you said 🔥 you are a great dude
Sounds like the way I get when I try to figure out a jiujitsu problem. That’s literally why we go to tournaments. Advancing thought 💭 process.
When I would say ayahuasca was part of my encounter with God it was actually the first time I felt his force and love, when my curiosity to know him more was triggered and it let me to find a home in the religion Christianity ✝️ when I tell my brothers and sisters from church ayahuasca Is my testimony they kinda amaze but it’s true and know that I know from God he is the one that put me there because he knew my lack of faith and everything led to another thing till i started my journey in the walk with God Jesus Christ im so blessed and thank God he had mercy for me and gave this opportunity to meet him and still walk by his side 🙏🙏✝️
You are not the only one who has had experiences with ayahuasca, and transformed into Christianity... I definitely believed in God, but I didn't fully believe in christianity or Christ. But that changed
I'm so sorry you ended up in the church, if it works for you, more power to you I guess. But the last place one should be looking for God is in Christianity. It is an insidious mind virus and a prison for human growth and enlightenment.
Irene Lyon just interviewed someone who had a terrible experience with it. It's not a panacea...people act like it's one trip and I'm magically cured.
Not a cure just good thing to experience before you die. Bad trips can be beneficial sometimes the ego needs a slap!
That's very true and important for people to understand. You will see unbelievably incredible things on DMT, you might see angels, you might experience heaven, but you also might experience demons, you might be surgically operated on by insectoid aliens, etc. It is always an ineffable and incredibly complex and mind-blowing experience, but it can be that way in a positive OR a negative way. Set and setting plays a large role, in my experience.
Dude literally says he took multiple trips to get where he's at.. everytime I hear someone talking about it they always mention multiple uses.. I've never heard it was a once and done thing.
Set and setting are key
The best part of Psychedelics is that they take you in the company of the Gods but the sad part is you won't stay there. is that the right quote? heard somewhere on JRE
5MEO blew my mind out, I've never heard to many people speak on it. But that stuff was insane
I randomly listened to Joel osteen’s message on TV one day and since then have not stopped listening. He has helped me get through very tough times while in college. I would encourage everyone to listen to a few of his messages. He actually makes people better. This world sure needs better humans. ❤️
Joel Osteen doesn’t even practice what he preaches. Hypocrisy at its purest.
Yea i like what he says but his actions are different. When there was a natural disaster he wouldn’t allow any of the people in the city to take refuge in the church. Not very godly
He's still a crook
The answer to Joe’s question @5:12 is YES!! And he is far from the first person to posit that idea- significant fathers of early Christianity discussed that precise idea as a natural consequence of the fact that we are literal children of God!!
What do all offspring grow up to be!!?? 🌞🌞🌞
It’s hard to say what’s it all and get an answer, when your no truly ready or willing to accept the answer. We want the answer to be in conjunction with what we’re currently doing and tend to shun that which points to correction. The truth comes as we have a true desire and real intent.
Eye opening. Love you Joe Rogan, come to Bulgaria!!!
After hearing so much about Ayahuasca on JRE I’m so looking forward to try it someday
i'd recommend to do multiple mushroom trips before your journey to that end of the pool.
Should you?
@@slimerone yeah listen to this dude
@@seang9738 yep listen to this dude telling you to listen to the other dude
@@royridesabike yep listen to this dude
The chicken and the egg create each other.
LOVE and TRUTH will always prevail!
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Rogan: "There should be full separation of church and state."
Also Rogan: "Churches should pay taxes."
8:06 He did it again! “What’s white and what’s wrong.”
Oh damn he must be racist then.
Channeling his inner biden
We all have a Biden inside of us
I like how the guest is reserved and straight up about his aya experience.
Just in case anyone is curious. Yes, all employees who work for any church have to pay taxes on their personal income. Just as any non-profit organization, there are times where people who work in a church can have access to funds or assets of that church. There are some really bad non-profits out there, including churches , that take advantage of their donors. The laws governing non-profit orgs could probably use some adjustments. But I think it should be said that most churches and non-profits struggle to pay bills and get by. The Joel Osteen's of the world give the incorrect impression that taxing churches would be a significant gain to the taxation system, as the vast majority do not turn a profit. (btw I am not religious and don't go to church, I'm just familiar with the topic)
“There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously - no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory
This reminds of a meth binge where two ppl are trying to figure out what life is about just without tearing apart electronics 😂
This conversation makes meel a lot better about fantasy football team...
My First salvia experience was instant ego death and he also experienced nonexistence no understanding of anything and I quit Doing all drugs for like six months before I felt comfortable doing anything again it was like a reset button for my brain and I’ve never felt the same since I’ve done it now I did salvia six more times but that first time and the other six times were just horrific experiences absolutely the worst way to experience ego death
I think the "meaning" of life is totally subjective in every human. The way to find the answer is to ask yourself "why do I choose to go on living", and then contemplate that through meditation. You'll begin to digging into who you are until you find a purpose... in my opinion
Yup totally subjective, I agree
Got there with meditation, and backed it up with DMT. They take you to the same place, infinity.
Neal thinks differently on damn near most the stuff they talked about within
That podcast but I’ve never seen someone respectfully disagree with someone as well as Neal
My one and only DMT breakthrough was what led me to God myself...awesome
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Kinda sounds to me like he was experiencing becoming the void and coming to grips with what that actually means. The experience that one might call god (even though it's technically nothing yet everything all at once) feels like love because connecting with anything other than what it views as itself and the constant feeling of the absolute nothing that the void provides is completely amazing...the best feeling... like coming home to the most loving and comforting mother/partner.
Realizing we are the void makes us lose that feeling however... and when too many parts of us lose that old nostalgia we will have to forget again and start over. no one wants to play chess by themselves... games aren't as fun when you write them, develop them and play all the starring roles in them while realizing it's your reflection you are killing. booorrring wink wink
That's why the ones in the know keep us divided and fighting. If we all came together and realized what and who we actually are then it's all over. reset is sadly inevitable however.
We use code words like "The Great Reset" because we know that it's coming. We are slowly realizing that we are all one being dreaming up the infinite in the void and that's the one thing we never want to admit to ourselves. We will deny that reality at any cost... and do whatever it takes to forget that fact... even if it means wiping our collective memories like we did 12,000 years ago. (even though time is just a construct that we devised for the sake of plot)
Kindly no to all of this
@@derekwatson8211 exactly lol we keep saying no. No void please. We love our narratives.
Praise God for life amen. 🙏
Joe literally explaining how the universe works and then the guy is like "...yeah I was so fucked up"
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What Joe Rogan talked about is basically Hinduism from India, becoming sel-actualized and breaking out of the Samsara. Becoming one with the cosmic being, that is literally what the Ancient Indian Scriptures talk about.
Doing ayahuasca/dmt is absolutely on my bucket list
You should
Yo this is the one I never worried. About any of this❤️🍄
The meaning of life is to be, as opposed to never being, god is unlimited, what does god lack? Limits
The preacher pays taxes on their personal income, the church property as long as it's used as a worship facility does not pay taxes. If a church owns apartments buildings or rental properties, or something similar, they pay taxes on it.
beautiful conversation