It's not as common as msm portrays. Inebriated people will present at er insisting their drink was spiked only to be paro. Yes it happens but not to the fear factor we've been fed.
@boganshazz821 until it happens to you or a close friend. It actually does happen a lot more than people realize. It doesn't always end up in favor of the person who "slips the drink"... their intentions may not come to fruition. Especially if the victim is with good people, they can count on, who can see they are in "trouble" and get them away before...
Nah, they drugged him.. Took him to that isolated location and merked him. That Lucy & Brad characters are also involved and knows more than they're letting on
@@craig5820 lololol. Nah, I'm just looking at the probability that you, like all of us to be fair, are simply using the minimal info the media have managed to get to us, ignoring the fact that theres a thousand more variables that we have zero idea about.. You practically took the info available and put together a plausible but unlikely summary given how little we truly know. Its not unthinkable at all what you suggested but, out of all the unknown variables, I'm saying its unlikely your Netflix style story happened just like you said.. You think I dont know that people take drugs.. ? If you were to know me personally, you'd be crying right now at that thought..haha. The standard criminal element to this is most definitely making things messy though.. haha.. If you're remotely involved in a situation like this before it got huge or after, theres lots of incentive for everyone to lie.. If I'm bar staff and my lot on the island are out there shottin bits and pieces, I'm speaking little or If I have to, I'm remixing little lies here and there, not trying to get implicated.
dogs that sniff out stiffs found nothing, its a red herring..boat looks interesting as does morocco to lay low but a bit too james bond..probs used 4 fishing..
''Román Antonio Martín Cánaves: Summary of Controversies and Relationships Controversies Role as Mayor: Román Antonio Martín Cánaves served as the mayor of El Tanque, Tenerife. His tenure was marked by multiple legal issues, leading to his disqualification from office. Corruption Allegations: He faced significant trouble for corruption during his time as mayor, which contributed to his eventual disqualification. Airbnb Connection: There is confusion and speculation about his involvement with an Airbnb property. Some sources suggest that he managed or owned a BnB listed on Airbnb, which has led to further scrutiny and suspicion about his activities. Relationships Family Connections: There are mentions of Román being related to an older woman who was involved in some capacity with the Airbnb property. It is suggested that she might be his sister, although the exact nature of their relationship remains unclear. Public Perception: Román is perceived negatively by some members of the public, who view him as deeply involved in corrupt activities.’’
Id be very surprised if hes in hiding, if ive learnt anything about him, it's that hes probably not the sharpest tool in the box,, there's no way hed be able to keep quiet for this long
The bit I didn’t get was when he said jay wanted to go home and have some food. Anyone that’s been a bender all night taking god knows what will tell you the last thing on your mind is food
Im a mother, im looking at this from a mother's point of view. Im sad for this kid, and his parents. If he was in such poor state, why did his friends leave him, how did he manage to steal a watch, and would he have been able to make that decision, to go with these guys. Its all just so sketchy. I hope they find him, the torment his parents must be going through.
Not only are kids losing their lives to drugs,others are groomed to sell instead of working a real job.Nobody talks about the devastation to families.It’s all about designer gear,like they wouldn’t be accepted with it,such a shame.Nineteen years old 😢
I’m amazed they even got police searching for a ‘missing’ person within a few hours! Most police forces won’t do a search for a missing adult until they’ve been missing for 48hrs at a minimum!
Lucy knew jay was in trouble on that mountain, ..lucy and brad just made up that jay was on 1 per cent battery...no water...cut leg...falling down slope....they were desperate to get helicopter and police up that mountain I reckon.
I totally agree with you. Whoever is involved is using the unanticipated publicity and social media attention to their advantage- the mention of the boat acting oddly has given them the idea of planting the phone on the beach to give credence to the existing narrative. I believe it’s a well planned charade /setup by a very cunning young lady, but I don’t believe the family are involved - Jays mum’s behaviour is a reflection of whatever she was led to believe at the start but I think the family never believed he is/was on that mountain. It all comes back to Lucy and her cohorts, they are the ones that controlled the narrative from day one.
@@REALHARSHhe could of OD at anytime on the journey to the Airbnb and dumped. But my real suspicions are Rolex is a marked mdma tab doing the rounds and he has tried to rip of his boss for the event and they have made him disappear permanently.
From that small detail of the bar girl giving him water at the rave because Jay looked so unwell, it now seems he could have been forced into the car and up to the B&B. The answer lies up there and whoever was involved.
I've said all along, I don't believe he was at the bnb at that time. The bnb was probably a place where they package the drugs into street deals. Jay might have been there s day or so before but not when they say he was
My brother In law who was 18 came to visit us and decided to go out with his friends on a night. They all came back , I was asleep I didn't go out, but they came and they stayed up talking until early hours and the next day I was woke up to someone shouting and unfortunately he passed away. The inquest results were that he passed due to alcohol abd ecstasy poisoning and he was fine there was nothing to indicate he was unwell. It happens and maybe jay went that way and due to his past record that quassim might of panicked xx but I really hope they find him fir his family cause if it was my son I would never stop never xx
@user-qs3hs4et1k yes my brother in law. My husband & I had split bit I had spare bedrooms so they asked if they could all stay over & I said why not. I get on well with my ex so it wasn't a problem. Until the morning. There's a phone box opposite my house and I was running back & forth relaying instructions but all the time I had my mobile in my hand. I just freaked out. So. Very sad x
So much I believe we will never know so young condolences to his family. I don’t feel like I can say friends as well.. thank you Harsh hope your having a nice time
Hey there just wondering how did the spanish lady know that she was really talking to Jay Slater that morning...she could have been talking to any random English lad she didn't know JS from a bar of soap ...
I completely agree. Something happened at the air b&b and now everyone is tripping over themselves to cover it up and just making it worse and worse for themselves. Sadly an od seems the most obvious explanation and his ' friends' just didnt want to deal with the fallout of that. Well look where that has got them, EPIC FAIL!
@@a.c.slater573 I get it but what else could have happened? I just dont see him wandering off hungover and with 1% battery on his phone into the mountains but maybe thats exactly what he did.
If he had been at the b&b the dogs would have indicated. They would have picked up his scent no matter his condition. I don't believe Jay's body was ever up in those mountains. I think he left with the two men, most likely against his will, and was dumped from the boat. They did admit to stopping for a drink at the docks. Unfortunately, if this is the case, no one will ever find his body and no one will ever know the truth.
I love his opening lines: "Well hello there, must say you look amazing"! Cracks me up every time! 🤣 Keep doing you, keeping Jay's name out there!!! Thank you! ❤
Allegedly the parents are going to buy a house on the island and stay there until Jay is found. What the HELL??? Are they now using the GoFund Me monies to buy themselves a place,??? instead of hiring in prefessional to get to the bottom of this?????
They are not seeking to buy no property but to rent is mu understanding ,can't stay at the hotel forever and that way they are based somewhere permanent until the situation has a conclusion, his mother has stated she is going no where until she knows what has happened to her son.😪
@@maggieedwards3951 Are they using the go Fund me funds for that??? They should be having professionals in there looking for this you man and USING the funds for that
@@maggieedwards3951 I presume from that they DO NOT HAVE jobs either, look at other parents with a child gone missing, they have responsibilites to their job etc, this whole situation stinks; stinks
My latest theory is that Jay died on his first day on the island and everything since then has been Lucy and Brad buying time while they smuggle his body out inside counterfeit Amberleaf pouches to be sold on Peckham market. I've ruled pretty much everything else out.
On another post, someone said that the door bell is under the light switch, and it's the usual fitting over there. If you look at the photo, there does appear to be a plate at the bottom of the switch box.
If Jay did OD there is no way he was taken back to the B&B because the dogs didn't pick up his scent. I don't know where he would have been taken, but wherever he got taken could have arranged the boat and got rid of his body, I'm hoping I'm wrong because I don't want to believe he's not alive anymore. I'm far too invested in this and I want the best for him and hs family. This is so hard ❤
The audio of Lucy on the beach is all we need to understand what happened. And at the same time another police issue in the resort happened!! Convenient distraction!!! Then the boat story. The air bnb was also booked around this time too. Very very sketchy.
You're looking amazing and the sound of the birds is uplifting. Thanks for keeping us in the loop. I am now getting the sense we are never going to know the truth. Too much shade and cover up.
Would seem to make more sense. Did wonder in what physical state he was in, before arriving at the B&B - there's clearly a big difference between 'going' to the B&B (of your own volition) and being 'taken' there. Drink spiked?
Where was brad?? Lucy allegedly goes home early but we do not know where brad was... also apprently he wanted to carry on partying but witness saying he was white guy wasted... and now there is talk the b and b was booked 30 minutes before which i find hard to believe if it already had their stuff there
In one of the photos to the right is lucy another girl and a guy but to the left is anothet guy.wearing dark glasdrs like jay who coyld easily pass for being jay ( so much alike ) ....!
Lost in Tenerife is a bop it's quite weird and the lyrics jay was dancing all night long and also saids stuck by a cactus and left all alone by lucy then hit in the chest if it was released before he went missing it's very creepy
I read it was released 2 days before Jay went missing by "DJ Jay Slater "- The lyrics describe the whole story of how he went missing. Pre planned staged event?😮
If I found a kid looking that unwell I think I;d call an ambulance rather drive them 45 minutes or whatever it was to mine and take responsibility for them. , then go to bed. I bet quite a few get themselves into states at those raves, so why take Jay? The blanket he had from the hotel was an odd one on the steps. But yeah, I can't see anyone even contemplating walking 11 hours after 3 days raving. Was a boat even stolen? Where did Jay learn his mariner skills? The boat bit sounds nonsense, but so does walking for 11 hours over mountains. rather than chill while Qassim woke up and drove him back, as he claims he offered, or just chill until the bus came. If he was still off his nut and Qassim was so concerned he had taken him back to help him, why would he then let him wander off into the middle of nowhere with no charge or water? Just doesn't make sense. Only makes sense if Jay was desperate to get away from the BnB. Haas Qassim named the other guy yet or still refusing? If it was all innocent, why not just name his mate? Unless he's wanted for something. Didn't Qassim book the air BnB under a false name? Also, I thought dogs could pick up a person's scent from where they had been, but they picked up no scent, anywhere? Curiouser and curiouser.
Yes, Lucy's hotel. Qassim said they gave him a blanket when they got to air BnB. Lucy had supposedly left early, so how did she manage to give him the blanket?
@@REALHARSH True, but the point is, someone feeling unwell absolutely could then feel better later, so we can't conclude that he didn't get into a car willingly. That something bad might have occurred later may be true, but someone having said they gave him some water because he looked rough doesn't anything more than just that.
Ecstasy pills have a 4 hour life span. Even if you take multiple pills, the high will begin to wear off 4 hours after the last pill was taken. Eating food and drinking juices will make one come down off the high. It's possible he was coming down and wanted more - he could have been lured to the b&b on the promise of more pills.
You nailed it again, mentioning the water = insinuates J weren't gonna make through the morning? so what are we talking here, is the worker trying to get us to forget about J, nobody, except his mates would look after J. The geezers wouldn't entertain taking responsibility for J by removing him from the rave, especially if he was falling in and out of consciousness?
I do agree with you. Sadly, I think Jay either OD’ed or, big or here, he was swiftly dealt with for the watch theft. I do not think he went up that mountain. I think they took him to the water and into that stolen boat we all saw them running to and loading in. I think his phone went up the mountain, to create that diversion. I’m sorry to say, I think Jay is in the water. I really hope someone will break and the truth will come out.
I don't think this means a lot TBH. I used to go to raves and over do the MDMA on occasion; it can render you unable to speak or stand properly (and basically appear 'unwell'), but once it starts to fade, you literally ping back to being your normal (albeit buzzing) self. So once it had worn off he would have been a bit spaced out, but almost certainly functional. Great channel BTW!
Based on what you say, deciding to do the long walk, and not any of the sensible actions ( wait for bus, or return to B&B B&B/ cafe for water/ phone charge) makes better sense. A series of unwise thoughts/ actions by a young, inexperienced guy who realises he is ( for whatever reasons) miles away from his accomodation and friends/ aquaintancies in an isolated mountainous area instead of the holiday beach and party area. Panic- what have I got into- etc) There is a lot we don't know but its possible.
Did anybody else hear that he had took 2 knives from the air B&B? I remember hearing it at the beginning of this rabbit hole. If so then how does that play into the situation. Regardless if it was true or not. I know I heard it reported
(1) Why didn’t the owner of the Airbnb, when she saw him walking in the wrong direction. Why didn’t she pick him up give him a lift to the closest bus stop in the right direction 🤷♀️🤦♀️ or give him a lift back into town. (2j. The 2 men that gave Jay a lift to their Airbnb in the middle of whoop whoop. Not drop him off at where he was staying in town on their way home. Why take Jay with them 🤷♀️🤔🐨🐨🦘
I'm doing my utmost to remain as unbothered as I can about this, but as soon as you watch one vid on this kid you are bombarded with several suggestions to watch. But what gets me is everybody points out that Lucy, Brad and the two at the airbnb are as dodgy as fuck, and in the same breath point out various things couldnt have happened because Lucy and Johnny Vegas said they didnt!!! I think that crims are more than capable of bullshitting their way through interviews and statements.
There was something on facebook today I saw it was that that there was a body found of a young boy!!! Where the boat had done the turnaround morocco !!!
The boat did a turn around in the other direction to Morocco , it was towards the island of la gomera which is quite a secluded island . I honestly believe he went there , whether that was by his own choice or by force is anyone guess.
The background sounds today are lovely. I wonder if the drink of water wss spiked to whisk him away. The member of staff not allowed to talk has talked ??? Another plot to put us of that poor lads demise. Ive read a card reader said he was picked up to take tgem to their farm to give him water and charge his phone and their holding him.hostsge for funds has anyone looked in nearby outbuildings just saying. Anything at the moment is possible. 😢😢😢poor lad snd his family. Xxxx its so sad. I pray whatever he is found safe and well and reunited with his parents ...😢😢😢 I enjoy your updates and this one makes sence but my hopes are he's okay. God willing there will be an end to this situation. Your so right his so called friends are covering something up thats for sure there stories are fairy tale like. Enjoy your holiday and jeep up your good work. Xx❤😢😢
I really wasn’t a fan of your first few videos covering this case, it felt too lighthearted and almost mocking to a degree. But I’ve changed my mind, the last few videos have been very respectful, informative, and maturely delivered. Thank you
Thank you, sometimes you have to be a little light hearted to soften the impact of what is in essence a very tragic story. People sometimes listen more….sometimes
Bar owners don't want an OD on premises. The island as whole doesn't want ODs on the island made public. There have been a lot of disappearances. Google missing in Tenerife. Finally two and two are being put together.
Jay looks like your generic skinny British lad. Does he look like Brad? No but he looks enough like him, and other lads that you couldn’t tell them apart in a glance.
I think possibly death by misadventure and they are all covering it up as they all went back to the air bnb, if I remember correctly wasn’t there a text where Brad said he keeps seeing Jay in that state??
What's gets me is,if you would want to carry on partying,why the Fk would you go with 2 doods,who where going back to yard to sleep,for said party to carry on,that makes 0 sence at all. Cheers for the uploads mate,have a great stay in Spain.
I did a lot of recreational drugs in my youth. Sometimes I was in a state where I would be falling around and completely out of it in the club 11pm,/12am/1am/2am etc looking like Jay did in the video and then next morning come 7/8 am be mostly compos mentis again .
Whichever way you look at it…none of the stories we’ve heard have been particularly favourable to him as a character…or the friends he kept… So what the actual fk do they expect people to think?!
NO HES A KID WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES IM 45 YEARS OLD AND I MADE HUNDREDS OF MISTAKES WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER JAY IS A CHILD A KID YOUR TELLING ME YOUV NEVER TOOK DRUGS OR BEEN A SHIT AT SCHOOL AND GOT INTO FIGHTS MILLIONS OF US HAVE MILLIONS JAYS NOT A BAD PERSON AND DOESNT DESERVE THIS BLAME LUCY BRAD AND THE MEN FROM THE BNB YES JAY MADE MISTAKES BUT WHO DOESNT STOP TRYING TO BASH HIS REPUTATION SOUNDING SELF RIGHTEOUS MAKES U LOOK LIKE A DICK TRYING TO SEEM POPULAR ON CZcams SCARED TO TAKE CRITICISM SO WHAT JAY WAS INVOLVED IN A FIGHT IN THE UK AND HUMG OUT WITH CHAVS BUT HE DOESNT DESERVE TO DIE @@REALHARSH
His remains have just been found and they said it looks like a fall or accident, so now whats all the youtube detectives gonna say now, lets here more theories, he was put there 😅
Yea agree, I think you are close to what could of happened. I believe the waitrsses statement, that fits with the footage we have seen of Jay. His friends might of taken Jay back to the hotel first, they freaked out whilst he becomes more ill, they didn't know how to deal with it & someone called quassim. Jay & his friends got into the car. Quassim books the bnb on route to the north. Could be the shady lot didn't want anything being linked to them if Jay was to OD. A cover up so they took photos and posted those to make out he was still alive. They made the fake calls from his phone to his friends on the island. Could someone have driven up the hill to drop the last pin before destroying the phone, it's not been found yet has it? Might explain the hotel throw & woman's foot in the photo. That is evidence right there, the hotel blanket, the hand could of been his friends hand & the womans foot, clear as day was present. I hope this wasn't how it went. To me the friends seriously lacked any genuine concern or emotion for Jay in their interviews, just my opinion.
Little dealer rips off bigger dealer. He is taken to be punished, he escapes, hides and phones his friend's for help. He is found by bigger dealer or his associates and dealt with permanently. Big dealer then intimidates other little dealers to lie and follow his narrative. The police were called as the hunt was on, hoping to flood the place with officers, save the little dealer and not name names. Nice red herring and alternative explanation with the watch story but little dealer was in the car with big dealer, intimidated and being driven to his death.
Even if that rumour was true . Looking into for what ? Maybe m9ney to help them stay where there son is lost.. since there own ! Money as been used . Not as though they can use any of the go fund me money omg could you imagine using money that people give to help f8nd there son and bring him
Jay Lucy and Brad were working, Jay stole a watch from someone who is big on the island. The 2 lads (Whisper) know Lucy and they escorted Jay to return the watch. Jay was then stabbed around 0430 infront of Lucy and Brad. The gang disposed of Jay by stealing a yacht and dumping him at sea whisky Lucy and Brad were taking to the air B&B to generate a story. Brad was acting as Jay using his phone and generating witness the cafe owner who said she saw an English boy around 0830. They then walked up the hill and sent a fake location to Brad’s phones and then disposed of the phone elsewhere. Lucy then began the pre agreed calling of the police with their story in check. The threat to Lucy is she pushes drugs around the island using young lads and others, she hopped to Lanzarote because she is worried she will be killed if the truth comes out.
The company and the behaviour of those that Jay surrounded himself with is the reason why we are so suspicious, along with all the other facts that we have been led by the nose to believe which are actually impossible. So the idea that we are judging Jay for his past, present and possible future is very much dependent on who you are now because who you are now is who you will be in the future...
Who was videoing him, was it CCTV or someone in the crowd. I thought it looked like someone watching him because usually, you video a full 360 of the club. I said from the start it looks like he may have had a stroke. They all could have gone back to Masca, anyone could have pretented to be Jay asking bus times. Probably scared because it was dodgy pills or something and they didn't want implicating. A quick plan, without any proper thought to cover up a situation that went horribly wrong. The Go Fund Me could be to make everything look more feasible. He died, got moved to stop bad publicity at the height of the season and prevent being implicated if the substances had been given to him off one of them.
Exactly that's why thry all got off n done interviews 11 days later n left the country 2 days after but think jay was also injured on the beach in that video n they took his body in lucys blanket
Did they check the relatives of the victim which he split the scull 2 years ago? It was most likely in his social media whete and why he was travelling to.
He got merked By Potter Paper for robbing his bag and watch. There is an audio file somewhere. Jonny Vegas was an accomplice. The CCTV shows them moving his body onto the boat it looks like. Why are two characters not being interrogated!
Maybe IF Jay was so unwell, he might have had absolutely no idea how far away he had been taken, and thought he could easily walk back next morning. But I actually think he was never at the B&B and the photo was a ruse to show he was. I can't see why Jay would necessarily post a photo like that. But if he was never there, I have no other ideas or theories at all.
But why would his best friend lie??? It’s his actual best mate, known each other for years, knows the family well etc. He might not be telling the full truth… like why Jay went back to the Airbnb - but I’m 99% certain he wouldn’t lie about the phone calls he received from Jay after he left the Airbnb. They’re the best pieces of evidence we actually have
If the friends are doing some dodgy stuff and Jay has 'messed up' they have to present Jay as a missing person and then they have no blame attached to them. They probably have to spin the story for their own security and maybe their own saftey. People eventually lose interest in missing person cases and the people involved get on with their lives. I expect the police want it to go away as well!
Never take water/Drinks from anyone, at Raves or Parties, well known fact,
True story. Or at a bar... full stop.
Now try that after 15 beers, people let their guard down when they're intoxicated and that is easier said than done
It's not as common as msm portrays. Inebriated people will present at er insisting their drink was spiked only to be paro. Yes it happens but not to the fear factor we've been fed.
@boganshazz821 until it happens to you or a close friend. It actually does happen a lot more than people realize. It doesn't always end up in favor of the person who "slips the drink"... their intentions may not come to fruition. Especially if the victim is with good people, they can count on, who can see they are in "trouble" and get them away before...
Really makes you think what could have been in it
Nah, they drugged him.. Took him to that isolated location and merked him. That Lucy & Brad characters are also involved and knows more than they're letting on
Too many movies.. I'm going to laugh at this comment for years..
For what reason, though?
@@craig5820I think he means the lurid language of old . 🤔
Bro that Lucy and the other guy was like his childhood friends tho, don't think they're involved like that but definitely hiding something.
@@craig5820 lololol. Nah, I'm just looking at the probability that you, like all of us to be fair, are simply using the minimal info the media have managed to get to us, ignoring the fact that theres a thousand more variables that we have zero idea about.. You practically took the info available and put together a plausible but unlikely summary given how little we truly know. Its not unthinkable at all what you suggested but, out of all the unknown variables, I'm saying its unlikely your Netflix style story happened just like you said.. You think I dont know that people take drugs.. ? If you were to know me personally, you'd be crying right now at that thought..haha. The standard criminal element to this is most definitely making things messy though.. haha.. If you're remotely involved in a situation like this before it got huge or after, theres lots of incentive for everyone to lie.. If I'm bar staff and my lot on the island are out there shottin bits and pieces, I'm speaking little or If I have to, I'm remixing little lies here and there, not trying to get implicated.
No door bell on the Airbnb after he said it was buzzing in the morning to move his car. Questions no answers.
I said that the two people that apparently rand the door bell need to be identified, but nothing
Personally, I don’t think Jay was at the BnB, however I think his phone was.
Smoke and Mirrors.
@@MrBobble51 good thought! Why was he in the mountains on the phone call if that’s the case…it’s all so weird
@@MrBobble51 so what did they do with jay then
@edenroseaya4587 he was never in the mountains someone threw his phone in
@@user-ul8ut6gt1ryet they never found the phone where it pinged...
dogs that sniff out stiffs found nothing, its a red herring..boat looks interesting as does morocco to lay low but a bit too james bond..probs used 4 fishing..
Qassim, Lucy and Brad have made out that Jay went on a 11 hour walk after raving for 3 straight days. Liars the 3 of them and the Spanish Lady.
I do find it incredibly hard to believe
''Román Antonio Martín Cánaves: Summary of Controversies and Relationships
Controversies
Role as Mayor: Román Antonio Martín Cánaves served as the mayor of El Tanque, Tenerife. His tenure was marked by multiple legal issues, leading to his disqualification from office.
Corruption Allegations: He faced significant trouble for corruption during his time as mayor, which contributed to his eventual disqualification.
Airbnb Connection: There is confusion and speculation about his involvement with an Airbnb property. Some sources suggest that he managed or owned a BnB listed on Airbnb, which has led to further scrutiny and suspicion about his activities.
Relationships
Family Connections: There are mentions of Román being related to an older woman who was involved in some capacity with the Airbnb property. It is suggested that she might be his sister, although the exact nature of their relationship remains unclear.
Public Perception: Román is perceived negatively by some members of the public, who view him as deeply involved in corrupt activities.’’
What motive does the air bnb lady have to lie! other than the fact shes the spit of that evil cow from the goonies
Yet 4 weeks in we have still not heard Brandon's story...why?
Why would the Spanish lady Lie twice also? They can't all be in it. She has no reason to lie...
Id be very surprised if hes in hiding, if ive learnt anything about him, it's that hes probably not the sharpest tool in the box,, there's no way hed be able to keep quiet for this long
The bit I didn’t get was when he said jay wanted to go home and have some food. Anyone that’s been a bender all night taking god knows what will tell you the last thing on your mind is food
Im a mother, im looking at this from a mother's point of view. Im sad for this kid, and his parents. If he was in such poor state, why did his friends leave him, how did he manage to steal a watch, and would he have been able to make that decision, to go with these guys. Its all just so sketchy. I hope they find him, the torment his parents must be going through.
Not only are kids losing their lives to drugs,others are groomed to sell instead of working a real job.Nobody talks about the devastation to families.It’s all about designer gear,like they wouldn’t be accepted with it,such a shame.Nineteen years old 😢
I’m amazed they even got police searching for a ‘missing’ person within a few hours!
Most police forces won’t do a search for a missing adult until they’ve been missing for 48hrs at a minimum!
Lucy knew jay was in trouble on that mountain, ..lucy and brad just made up that jay was on 1 per cent battery...no water...cut leg...falling down slope....they were desperate to get helicopter and police up that mountain I reckon.
Could someone have purposely fed him too much of the bliss in order to get hold of him easily in the morning?? I hope not.
I hope not but it’s possible
What does that mean ? 🤔
I totally agree with you. Whoever is involved is using the unanticipated publicity and social media attention to their advantage- the mention of the boat acting oddly has given them the idea of planting the phone on the beach to give credence to the existing narrative. I believe it’s a well planned charade /setup by a very cunning young lady, but I don’t believe the family are involved - Jays mum’s behaviour is a reflection of whatever she was led to believe at the start but I think the family never believed he is/was on that mountain. It all comes back to Lucy and her cohorts, they are the ones that controlled the narrative from day one.
Actually, it's very plausible, he may have OD'd at the BnB
I feel it’s possible
@@REALHARSHhe could of OD at anytime on the journey to the Airbnb and dumped. But my real suspicions are Rolex is a marked mdma tab doing the rounds and he has tried to rip of his boss for the event and they have made him disappear permanently.
He's been moonlighting as a travel guide in Morocco.
Does Ayoub really look like a guy who would altruistically take care of a stray sick teen?
From that small detail of the bar girl giving him water at the rave because Jay looked so unwell, it now seems he could have been forced into the car and up to the B&B. The answer lies up there and whoever was involved.
I agree Joe
@@REALHARSH He was taking snaps in the car, he wasn't forced he was aware of what he was doing.
@@tonytajine i dont think that was him in the car
@@tonytajine There are no snaps taken by him, or of him in the car at all.
I've said all along, I don't believe he was at the bnb at that time. The bnb was probably a place where they package the drugs into street deals. Jay might have been there s day or so before but not when they say he was
Most sensible report on this I've listened to!
My brother In law who was 18 came to visit us and decided to go out with his friends on a night. They all came back , I was asleep I didn't go out, but they came and they stayed up talking until early hours and the next day I was woke up to someone shouting and unfortunately he passed away. The inquest results were that he passed due to alcohol abd ecstasy poisoning and he was fine there was nothing to indicate he was unwell. It happens and maybe jay went that way and due to his past record that quassim might of panicked xx but I really hope they find him fir his family cause if it was my son I would never stop never xx
Who passed away... your brother in law?
She said 'was '
@user-qs3hs4et1k yes my brother in law. My husband & I had split bit I had spare bedrooms so they asked if they could all stay over & I said why not. I get on well with my ex so it wasn't a problem. Until the morning. There's a phone box opposite my house and I was running back & forth relaying instructions but all the time I had my mobile in my hand. I just freaked out. So. Very sad x
@@alexandrahindley 💔
So much I believe we will never know so young condolences to his family. I don’t feel like I can say friends as well.. thank you Harsh hope your having a nice time
Hey there just wondering how did the spanish lady know that she was really talking to Jay Slater that morning...she could have been talking to any random English lad she didn't know JS from a bar of soap ...
I completely agree. Something happened at the air b&b and now everyone is tripping over themselves to cover it up and just making it worse and worse for themselves. Sadly an od seems the most obvious explanation and his ' friends' just didnt want to deal with the fallout of that. Well look where that has got them, EPIC FAIL!
@@littlechicks3520 if your friend OD’s it’s more hassle to hide the body and concoct an alibi. That is a very far fetched scenario.
@@a.c.slater573 I get it but what else could have happened? I just dont see him wandering off hungover and with 1% battery on his phone into the mountains but maybe thats exactly what he did.
If he had been at the b&b the dogs would have indicated. They would have picked up his scent no matter his condition. I don't believe Jay's body was ever up in those mountains. I think he left with the two men, most likely against his will, and was dumped from the boat. They did admit to stopping for a drink at the docks. Unfortunately, if this is the case, no one will ever find his body and no one will ever know the truth.
Surprised the press haven’t offered a worker money they can’t turn down for insider view
That’s EXACTLY why the family MUST put up a reward!!
Maybe they were never his real friends and they were keeping him tanked up for a reason?
Possibly, anything is possible
B&B hired only 30 mins before they arrived . This should have been a critical key for further investigation
Source?? Also how can that be when its a 50 minute drive from where they were and the other guy had a phone charger there ??
What?
It was already booked for their whole stay, this is just another fake story they just booked it etc
@@MarcThomas-cn6cr daily Mail
@@ThaiMyStyle that’s as per daily mail not my own opinion
I love his opening lines:
"Well hello there, must say you look amazing"!
Cracks me up every time! 🤣
Keep doing you, keeping Jay's name out there!!!
Thank you! ❤
Allegedly the parents are going to buy a house on the island and stay there until Jay is found. What the HELL??? Are they now using the GoFund Me monies to buy themselves a place,??? instead of hiring in prefessional to get to the bottom of this?????
Speaking on this later
They are not seeking to buy no property but to rent is mu understanding ,can't stay at the hotel forever and that way they are based somewhere permanent until the situation has a conclusion, his mother has stated she is going no where until she knows what has happened to her son.😪
@@maggieedwards3951 Are they using the go Fund me funds for that??? They should be having professionals in there looking for this you man and USING the funds for that
@@maggieedwards3951 I presume from that they DO NOT HAVE jobs either, look at other parents with a child gone missing, they have responsibilites to their job etc, this whole situation stinks; stinks
My latest theory is that Jay died on his first day on the island and everything since then has been Lucy and Brad buying time while they smuggle his body out inside counterfeit Amberleaf pouches to be sold on Peckham market. I've ruled pretty much everything else out.
Lucy and brad reported him missing? They could've bought a lot more time?
😂
And the bnb guy looks like a really helpful nice person .......🤔
Ayub said the door bell rang for him to move his car but there’s no door bell
And he said that morning there was a knock on the door turned out it was Lucy.
On another post, someone said that the door bell is under the light switch, and it's the usual fitting over there. If you look at the photo, there does appear to be a plate at the bottom of the switch box.
@@lynnwilliams2554 there’s no camera
No door bell
@johnrob6882 I know that, I was mentioning the door bell.
If Jay did OD there is no way he was taken back to the B&B because the dogs didn't pick up his scent. I don't know where he would have been taken, but wherever he got taken could have arranged the boat and got rid of his body, I'm hoping I'm wrong because I don't want to believe he's not alive anymore. I'm far too invested in this and I want the best for him and hs family. This is so hard ❤
HARSH REALITY, seems a top guy. Honest, truthful, concerned and genuine. Great conversationalist and insights. 🙂
The audio of Lucy on the beach is all we need to understand what happened. And at the same time another police issue in the resort happened!! Convenient distraction!!! Then the boat story. The air bnb was also booked around this time too. Very very sketchy.
Birds make sounds to awaken the world and the plants and flowers wake up it’s all a rhythm
You're looking amazing and the sound of the birds is uplifting. Thanks for keeping us in the loop. I am now getting the sense we are never going to know the truth. Too much shade and cover up.
Would seem to make more sense. Did wonder in what physical state he was in, before arriving at the B&B - there's clearly a big difference between 'going' to the B&B (of your own volition) and being 'taken' there. Drink spiked?
Where was brad?? Lucy allegedly goes home early but we do not know where brad was... also apprently he wanted to carry on partying but witness saying he was white guy wasted... and now there is talk the b and b was booked 30 minutes before which i find hard to believe if it already had their stuff there
In one of the photos to the right is lucy another girl and a guy but to the left is anothet guy.wearing dark glasdrs like jay who coyld easily pass for being jay ( so much alike ) ....!
Lost in Tenerife is a bop it's quite weird and the lyrics jay was dancing all night long and also saids stuck by a cactus and left all alone by lucy then hit in the chest if it was released before he went missing it's very creepy
@@andersondasilva1334 Is that a fact and when was it made the dates are conflicting
@@andersondasilva1334 ow ok thanks for getting back to me just hoping it resolved soon
I read it was released 2 days before Jay went missing by "DJ Jay Slater "-
The lyrics describe the whole story of how he went missing.
Pre planned staged event?😮
If I found a kid looking that unwell I think I;d call an ambulance rather drive them 45 minutes or whatever it was to mine and take responsibility for them. , then go to bed. I bet quite a few get themselves into states at those raves, so why take Jay? The blanket he had from the hotel was an odd one on the steps. But yeah, I can't see anyone even contemplating walking 11 hours after 3 days raving. Was a boat even stolen? Where did Jay learn his mariner skills? The boat bit sounds nonsense, but so does walking for 11 hours over mountains. rather than chill while Qassim woke up and drove him back, as he claims he offered, or just chill until the bus came. If he was still off his nut and Qassim was so concerned he had taken him back to help him, why would he then let him wander off into the middle of nowhere with no charge or water? Just doesn't make sense. Only makes sense if Jay was desperate to get away from the BnB. Haas Qassim named the other guy yet or still refusing? If it was all innocent, why not just name his mate? Unless he's wanted for something. Didn't Qassim book the air BnB under a false name? Also, I thought dogs could pick up a person's scent from where they had been, but they picked up no scent, anywhere? Curiouser and curiouser.
The blanket was feom Lucy's
Yes, Lucy's hotel. Qassim said they gave him a blanket when they got to air BnB. Lucy had supposedly left early, so how did she manage to give him the blanket?
Yes, Quassim booked the B&B using a false name.
You can be unwell from booze or drugs, then puke up and feel a lot better a short while later. Most people will be familiar with that scenario.
Most people don’t vanish off the face of the planet afterwards…
@@REALHARSH True, but the point is, someone feeling unwell absolutely could then feel better later, so we can't conclude that he didn't get into a car willingly. That something bad might have occurred later may be true, but someone having said they gave him some water because he looked rough doesn't anything more than just that.
Ecstasy pills have a 4 hour life span. Even if you take multiple pills, the high will begin to wear off 4 hours after the last pill was taken.
Eating food and drinking juices will make one come down off the high.
It's possible he was coming down and wanted more - he could have been lured to the b&b on the promise of more pills.
Where'sWally? Good analogy harsh!!! The wee cartoon character at end of video! 😂
😂😂
You nailed it again, mentioning the water = insinuates J weren't gonna make through the morning? so what are we talking here, is the worker trying to get us to forget about J, nobody, except his mates would look after J. The geezers wouldn't entertain taking responsibility for J by removing him from the rave, especially if he was falling in and out of consciousness?
I do agree with you. Sadly, I think Jay either OD’ed or, big or here, he was swiftly dealt with for the watch theft. I do not think he went up that mountain. I think they took him to the water and into that stolen boat we all saw them running to and loading in. I think his phone went up the mountain, to create that diversion. I’m sorry to say, I think Jay is in the water. I really hope someone will break and the truth will come out.
I don't think this means a lot TBH. I used to go to raves and over do the MDMA on occasion; it can render you unable to speak or stand properly (and basically appear 'unwell'), but once it starts to fade, you literally ping back to being your normal (albeit buzzing) self. So once it had worn off he would have been a bit spaced out, but almost certainly functional. Great channel BTW!
Based on what you say, deciding to do the long walk, and not any of the sensible actions ( wait for bus, or return to B&B B&B/ cafe for water/ phone charge) makes better sense. A series of unwise thoughts/ actions by a young, inexperienced guy who realises he is ( for whatever reasons) miles away from his accomodation and friends/ aquaintancies in an isolated mountainous area instead of the holiday beach and party area. Panic- what have I got into- etc)
There is a lot we don't know but its possible.
Did anybody else hear that he had took 2 knives from the air B&B? I remember hearing it at the beginning of this rabbit hole. If so then how does that play into the situation. Regardless if it was true or not. I know I heard it reported
Yes it’s in my mind too.
(1) Why didn’t the owner of the Airbnb, when she saw him walking in the wrong direction. Why didn’t she pick him up give him a lift to the closest bus stop in the right direction 🤷♀️🤦♀️ or give him a lift back into town.
(2j. The 2 men that gave Jay a lift to their Airbnb in the middle of whoop whoop. Not drop him off at where he was staying in town on their way home. Why take Jay with them 🤷♀️🤔🐨🐨🦘
💯 they covered up something that happened to him, I don't think we'll gear the truth.
I'm doing my utmost to remain as unbothered as I can about this, but as soon as you watch one vid on this kid you are bombarded with several suggestions to watch. But what gets me is everybody points out that Lucy, Brad and the two at the airbnb are as dodgy as fuck, and in the same breath point out various things couldnt have happened because Lucy and Johnny Vegas said they didnt!!! I think that crims are more than capable of bullshitting their way through interviews and statements.
It’s a possibility that the guys at the airbnb got a bit fruity with him and he got freaked out and legged it.
Omg- I have been saying this from the beginning! Why is noone talking about this possibility?!
Every possibility is somewhat credible, but the more info that comes to light the more it seems planted to create a bigger distraction.
You look absolutely amazing….
Reflection through my phone says different 🤣
When he said it,I said thanks, then realised he can't see me FFS 😂😂😂
@@Niamhmariephelan 🤣🤣🤣
There was something on facebook today I saw it was that that there was a body found of a young boy!!!
Where the boat had done the turnaround morocco !!!
I will see if I can find it
The boat did a turn around in the other direction to Morocco , it was towards the island of la gomera which is quite a secluded island . I honestly believe he went there , whether that was by his own choice or by force is anyone guess.
@@REALHARSHif you can’t look on google .. young boy found floating in
The Oum Er-Rbia in Morocco’s 😢
The background sounds today are lovely. I wonder if the drink of water wss spiked to whisk him away. The member of staff not allowed to talk has talked ??? Another plot to put us of that poor lads demise. Ive read a card reader said he was picked up to take tgem to their farm to give him water and charge his phone and their holding him.hostsge for funds has anyone looked in nearby outbuildings just saying. Anything at the moment is possible. 😢😢😢poor lad snd his family. Xxxx its so sad. I pray whatever he is found safe and well and reunited with his parents ...😢😢😢
I enjoy your updates and this one makes sence but my hopes are he's okay. God willing there will be an end to this situation. Your so right his so called friends are covering something up thats for sure there stories are fairy tale like. Enjoy your holiday and jeep up your good work. Xx❤😢😢
He was kidnapped by prickly pears and picked up by the SS Naughy Blonde 😂😂😂😂
I don’t believe you could leave any night club anywhere that it wouldn be caught on cctv
You’re looking Amazing this morning ( which was yesterday) lol❤❤❤
I really wasn’t a fan of your first few videos covering this case, it felt too lighthearted and almost mocking to a degree. But I’ve changed my mind, the last few videos have been very respectful, informative, and maturely delivered. Thank you
Thank you, sometimes you have to be a little light hearted to soften the impact of what is in essence a very tragic story. People sometimes listen more….sometimes
Where's Wally books 📚 come to mind with this case! With all the theories and people surmising 😮
Bar owners don't want an OD on premises. The island as whole doesn't want ODs on the island made public. There have been a lot of disappearances. Google missing in Tenerife. Finally two and two are being put together.
Jay’s disappearance has highlighted how bad everything is in Tenerife, drugs, missing people and perhaps corrupt police.
@@loverofallanimals This one has garnered a lot of attention for some reasons. There are dozens that haven't.
Spot on matey - well said i agree 👋👋👋👋
Thank you have a good day
I see they're photoshopping photos of Jay's face now.
I think you are right about overdose thought that a while ago
Sunday a day of rest and reset and a perfect time for you to address doing so when it comes to going off on a tangent at times
Tangents are where gold can be found. Nothing was ever achieved resting… except more energy for more tangents
Jay looks like your generic skinny British lad. Does he look like Brad? No but he looks enough like him, and other lads that you couldn’t tell them apart in a glance.
I’ve realized in my OWN life that
With friends like mine who needs enemies!
Jay’s friends are likely like those I meet they mate us worse for wear.
I think possibly death by misadventure and they are all covering it up as they all went back to the air bnb, if I remember correctly wasn’t there a text where Brad said he keeps seeing Jay in that state??
What's gets me is,if you would want to carry on partying,why the Fk would you go with 2 doods,who where going back to yard to sleep,for said party to carry on,that makes 0 sence at all. Cheers for the uploads mate,have a great stay in Spain.
I did a lot of recreational drugs in my youth. Sometimes I was in a state where I would be falling around and completely out of it in the club 11pm,/12am/1am/2am etc looking like Jay did in the video and then next morning come 7/8 am be mostly compos mentis again .
Whichever way you look at it…none of the stories we’ve heard have been particularly favourable to him as a character…or the friends he kept…
So what the actual fk do they expect people to think?!
Well said
NO HES A KID WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES IM 45 YEARS OLD AND I MADE HUNDREDS OF MISTAKES WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER JAY IS A CHILD A KID YOUR TELLING ME YOUV NEVER TOOK DRUGS OR BEEN A SHIT AT SCHOOL AND GOT INTO FIGHTS MILLIONS OF US HAVE MILLIONS JAYS NOT A BAD PERSON AND DOESNT DESERVE THIS BLAME LUCY BRAD AND THE MEN FROM THE BNB YES JAY MADE MISTAKES BUT WHO DOESNT STOP TRYING TO BASH HIS REPUTATION SOUNDING SELF RIGHTEOUS MAKES U LOOK LIKE A DICK TRYING TO SEEM POPULAR ON CZcams SCARED TO TAKE CRITICISM SO WHAT JAY WAS INVOLVED IN A FIGHT IN THE UK AND HUMG OUT WITH CHAVS BUT HE DOESNT DESERVE TO DIE @@REALHARSH
Trump is taking over my feed🙈😂
Don't tell me he's with him!
😂@@OH2023-cj9if
That's cause it's much more important news!
@@OH2023-cj9ifdon't tell me you support biden
@@Utlathram80 it was a joke
His remains have just been found and they said it looks like a fall or accident, so now whats all the youtube detectives gonna say now, lets here more theories, he was put there 😅
Yea agree, I think you are close to what could of happened. I believe the waitrsses statement, that fits with the footage we have seen of Jay. His friends might of taken Jay back to the hotel first, they freaked out whilst he becomes more ill, they didn't know how to deal with it & someone called quassim. Jay & his friends got into the car. Quassim books the bnb on route to the north. Could be the shady lot didn't want anything being linked to them if Jay was to OD. A cover up so they took photos and posted those to make out he was still alive. They made the fake calls from his phone to his friends on the island. Could someone have driven up the hill to drop the last pin before destroying the phone, it's not been found yet has it? Might explain the hotel throw & woman's foot in the photo. That is evidence right there, the hotel blanket, the hand could of been his friends hand & the womans foot, clear as day was present. I hope this wasn't how it went. To me the friends seriously lacked any genuine concern or emotion for Jay in their interviews, just my opinion.
Little dealer rips off bigger dealer. He is taken to be punished, he escapes, hides and phones his friend's for help. He is found by bigger dealer or his associates and dealt with permanently. Big dealer then intimidates other little dealers to lie and follow his narrative. The police were called as the hunt was on, hoping to flood the place with officers, save the little dealer and not name names. Nice red herring and alternative explanation with the watch story but little dealer was in the car with big dealer, intimidated and being driven to his death.
Morning harsh hope your having a great holiday xx
There is a rumour that Ms Duncan (the family) is making money from at least one documentary so far. Needs looking into.
It could explain why Ms Duncan is silent, except from family representatives making statements. Copyright?
Even if that rumour was true . Looking into for what ? Maybe m9ney to help them stay where there son is lost.. since there own ! Money as been used . Not as though they can use any of the go fund me money omg could you imagine using money that people give to help f8nd there son and bring him
really good point!
He's on a yacht that snuggles cactus. Next stop, the Rolex hock shop.😂😂😂
Yup totally agree you make so much sence .😮
Jay Lucy and Brad were working, Jay stole a watch from someone who is big on the island.
The 2 lads (Whisper) know Lucy and they escorted Jay to return the watch.
Jay was then stabbed around 0430 infront of Lucy and Brad.
The gang disposed of Jay by stealing a yacht and dumping him at sea whisky Lucy and Brad were taking to the air B&B to generate a story.
Brad was acting as Jay using his phone and generating witness the cafe owner who said she saw an English boy around 0830.
They then walked up the hill and sent a fake location to Brad’s phones and then disposed of the phone elsewhere.
Lucy then began the pre agreed calling of the police with their story in check.
The threat to Lucy is she pushes drugs around the island using young lads and others, she hopped to Lanzarote because she is worried she will be killed if the truth comes out.
The company and the behaviour of those that Jay surrounded himself with is the reason why we are so suspicious, along with all the other facts that we have been led by the nose to believe which are actually impossible. So the idea that we are judging Jay for his past, present and possible future is very much dependent on who you are now because who you are now is who you will be in the future...
Very true statement
If your final hypothesis holds water, why would they keep Jay out of his head all weekend, so much so he would OD? If indeed they did.
Who was videoing him, was it CCTV or someone in the crowd. I thought it looked like someone watching him because usually, you video a full 360 of the club. I said from the start it looks like he may have had a stroke. They all could have gone back to Masca, anyone could have pretented to be Jay asking bus times. Probably scared because it was dodgy pills or something and they didn't want implicating. A quick plan, without any proper thought to cover up a situation that went horribly wrong. The Go Fund Me could be to make everything look more feasible. He died, got moved to stop bad publicity at the height of the season and prevent being implicated if the substances had been given to him off one of them.
Exactly that's why thry all got off n done interviews 11 days later n left the country 2 days after but think jay was also injured on the beach in that video n they took his body in lucys blanket
Did they check the relatives of the victim which he split the scull 2 years ago? It was most likely in his social media whete and why he was travelling to.
There has been speculation of a connection
The victim Tom Hilton’s father is said to have done prison time with Ayub Quassim and be his good buddy. Lucy is Tom’s former girlfriend.
This is turning into a fkin circus. Loads, of other good Ppl go missing there. And all the attention is on this bad boy ffs
That' statement where he says "Jay came here alive and left here alive" still bothers me. That's just a weird statement in my opinion
Agreed. A very weird and creepy thing to say.
He got merked By Potter Paper for robbing his bag and watch. There is an audio file somewhere. Jonny Vegas was an accomplice. The CCTV shows them moving his body onto the boat it looks like. Why are two characters not being interrogated!
Good Morgan!! Love you Brother 😎
That does not look like the hand of a bricklayer holding that cigarette
That hand is very feminine to me and so is the ring.😮
I totally agree!
Jay stole Potter's Rolexia and the rest is history, the AP text was a decoy, question is when did he take it????
Maybe IF Jay was so unwell, he might have had absolutely no idea how far away he had been taken, and thought he could easily walk back next morning. But I actually think he was never at the B&B and the photo was a ruse to show he was. I can't see why Jay would necessarily post a photo like that. But if he was never there, I have no other ideas or theories at all.
Think you've almost nailed it. Only thing i question is why rent somewhere so remote.
But why would his best friend lie??? It’s his actual best mate, known each other for years, knows the family well etc. He might not be telling the full truth… like why Jay went back to the Airbnb - but I’m 99% certain he wouldn’t lie about the phone calls he received from Jay after he left the Airbnb. They’re the best pieces of evidence we actually have
Fear, maybe?? I'm just guessing, of course.
If the friends are doing some dodgy stuff and Jay has 'messed up' they have to present Jay as a missing person and then they have no blame attached to them. They probably have to spin the story for their own security and maybe their own saftey. People eventually lose interest in missing person cases and the people involved get on with their lives. I expect the police want it to go away as well!
Guys that took jay to the BnB as his friends had fooked off and left him in a mess. Use your theory on that ffs
Good Morning Harsh
Morning
If he was looking for more stuff and got weird after he did it I could see hin thinking he could find his way back
What about the beach cam/audio of Lucy screaming about stabbing?
I've subbed as you don't talk like some kind of demented robot 🤖
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I also hate demented robots 🤖