As a automotive technician in the game for over 20 years.... I have to give this guy my respect. He's doing shit that makes no sense, but that I've always wanted to to. Not to prove a point, not to further my education.... But just because he wants to. Damn.... If only my boss would let me do pointless projects like this.
@@ChevyLaxMan imagine lifting 20 pounds... sounds easier. now put that weight on the end of a 5 foot pole and try again. XD it might be able to hand that weight in one direction, but shift that weight to one side and it can make a massive difference.
Try the car when the snow goes away, and you have a big dry surface to try it on. You will get another big surprise! Around 1973 a top NASCAR team tried this concept for their car at Daytona. Their reason was that at Daytona they ran full throttle all the way around the track, and the corners would pull the engine down in revs. Their theory was that the energy in a heavy flywheel would let the engine maintain RPM in the corners. They built a 250 pound (100+kg) flywheel and gave it a try. They were surprised to learn that the heavy flywheel was a big gyro and the car would not turn. When the car came to a corner, it wanted to go straight, through the wall.
Thats called " Procession . I wasnt a problem at normal speeds , with street tires . In Switzerland , they tried , flywheel buses , they spun out on icy roads [ the flywheel was mounted flat on the bus floor .]
@@paulbains9152 i read a wiki article about that bus, those are flywheel batteries. Unfortunally, they dont work with all vibration of a bus. Its great for stationary units and space. Its used for trolleys to give them boost after a station. Modern version of that flywheell battery is made of carbon fiber composite and its encapsulated in a vacuum or noble gas sealed cointaineer, for lower aero drag. They use magnetic bearings too. I was disapointed because i was hoping theycould use that technology for electric cars.
@@polentusmax6100 The article I saw was in the 70s , in Popular Mechanics Magazine . These buses were supposedly in operation . The flywheel was flat below the floor . A gear drive connected it to a small gas motor . Ive seen the fyywheel batteries , that can be ganged up , that was different than this .
Around 6:35 He says, " It's still vibrating." Of course it is. It's a Lada. If you look in the owner's manual, under "troubleshooting", under the issue of "no vibrations", the response is, "engine is most likely not running"
or how about we just make one flywhheel that weighs as much as 4 flywheels and swap them out for when you begin to learn and put a normal one after you get the idea down. would almost eliminate stalls but the other side affects of slow rev and no engine brake seems like a bad idea too..
@@gregthemechanicman Something that automatically goes through the clutch bite point, and automatically holds the revs doesnt strike me as a "learning tool" so much as a never-stall system with caveats😂 .
You don't even really need a clutch anyway... Start the car in first gear with no breaks, it's janky af but does work, when it starts... drive, when you need to change gear, lift slightly off the accelerator slip into neutral then align the revs with what they would be in second gear and slip it into second with as little force as possible, it just clunks in... ect. same kind of thing to change down gears too. I have done this many times as a kind of party trick. No-one believes it's possible until they see it.
@@JessicaMarinaRushie only issue when having to drive something that the clutch went out and locked together on, when the battery dies from using the starter to crank it.. better hope it's running really good to start with, an old motor that's barely even running on a good day or really hard to start.. gonna kill that battery real quick lol..
Super. I tried this on a VW Beetle. I only added a little over four pounds at the rim of the flywheel, and not only did the engine rev up and down much differently, if you floored it, waited for it to rev up, and then dropped the clutch, it would really burn rubber. 💙 T.E.N. Edit: After reading a bunch of comments, a heavier flywheel means lower miles per gallon and less power available at the drive wheels, however, initial torque off the line and speed shifting are fun. 💙
I bet it could do some wicked clutch pop wheelspin launches. You could have a cheat dragster, just revving a 50 horsepower engine into a giant flywheel for a minute straight, then release and do a tyre smoking 10 second 1/4 mile.
@@steven-vn9ui not the one I was thinking of but I did have one of those to play with for a bit at my parents thrift shop, I miss that place we would randomly get the coolest things.
I've always wanted to do that on a bicycle. Basically when stopped put it in a gear that conects to a flywheel. pedal like crazy then flick a switch when ready and it connects flywheel to wheels. Launch!
,,Seems to be some kind of weirdness with the timing chain. My guess is that the tensioner has fallen apart'' *REVS THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OUT OF THAT ENGINE*
@@THEJR-of5tfBased on another comment I'm going to assume that this is a non-interference engine, so if the timing failed, the piston wouldn't touch the valve
If you've watched much of this channel, that is exactly the mode they operate within. It might bite them one day. Especially when you see they are so utterly surprised what the energy stored in a Very quickly spinning wheel can unleash, wheels were tires are centripetally growing and disintegrating 'explosively' (previously standing right in the plane of release). I sound like a broken record but they do take some stupid risks, at times. And the chain worries me FAR less than the flywheels they installed. You can get away with these lax concerns right up to the very moment you don't, on rare occasions.
@@ponderin I'm guessing that the engine timing would need to be further retarded to run at lower than normal idle speeds. Also you would have even less oil pressure at lower than factory idle speeds.
I think you mean gyro action "prosession " causing it to want to go its own way . I found , that wasnt a problem . The thing I was worried about though , was the bearings in the bell housing , breaking , and this damm thing coming through the floor .
There is a vehicle driving and building simulator, Beamng Drive, and the physics are absolutely incredible. One user, put an 1100 pound flywheel on his small car....I laughed so hard...it was hilarious!😂😂😂
@@tylerbonser7686 im pretty sure its backfire when it comes out the exhaust and its called spitting or coughing when its through the carb but its all preference what you want to call it
Have a look at compulsators. They’re basically giant mechanical capacitors. Wind them up to hell-on-Earth RPM then dump all the energy at once onto a rail gun or other super high power device. Fun ;)
Would love to see you guys keep this around, and do a fuel mileage comparison on a road with flats and hills with both the stock flywheel or an even lighter one then this setup. Will the added inertia help with mileage over the coarse of daily driving, with a measured fuel source. Great vid. keep them coming.
No it won't because the engine needs to work harder to rev it in the first place. If you only ever drive down hill it might help but I don't know anywhere like that.
this was an awesome learning moment.. this means adding a lightweight aluminum flywheel should be a decent bolt on performance mod, depending on what you are putting it in..
@@steven-vn9ui Check these low horsepower, high torque videos: czcams.com/video/ROv7wKFe5BM/video.html czcams.com/video/EVxByLO_6cA/video.html Horsepower is overrated.
@@wrongwheeldrive9605 Physics. Law of motion and mass. Things in motion tend to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. Add mass (flywheels) and the motion is enhanced. That is why early low horsepower engines had big, heavy flywheels to take advantage of the torque.
A heavier flywheel would in theory would have more momentum, I want to see a test of going uphill at 45 mph with and without this modification. I'm wagering the extra flywheels will help it keep steady up the hill than the standard configuration.
@@thatboyj1211 I just want to see if it could be a viable thing to do in a (rather tight) pinch. doesnt actually matter how many layers are there. it can even consist of a wooden frame to press the sandpaper surface on to the fly wheel
@@paulbains9152 Well , it goes without saying, it would have to go through, first: the bell housing, and then, secondly, the floor boards, ( or tunnel actually) before it made it all the way up to the windshield, but ,yea, ok, that too.
@@treeguyable My flywheel unit weighed about 300 lb . I gained a one gear up advantage at a maximum of about 3000 rpm . If you wound it 2 or 3 times as fast , you would have much more potential energy , but if it ever got away ,it would be lethal . I didnt have the guts to spin it that fast . There was 1 bellhousing of steel , about 3/8 in thick . I balanced it by trial and error . I drilled and tapped holes all around it , and screwed in allen set screws as weight adjustment . If you cleared up the harmonics at one rpm , they increased at another rpm range .
I think the added mass would make an awesome interstate cruiser and also could be used as a mechanical regenerative braking. As you stop you add your forward momentum to a separate flywheel that spins while the car has stopped. When you want to move, engage the clutch to the flywheel first then to the engine to accelerate once the energy in the flywheel has been used.
You could have a spagg clutch that , that freewheeled , and let the motor drop off in RPM , like a bicycle . I did play with that a bit . It slammed in and broke .
Applying some e-brake works great for this, since it will only apply brake to the driving wheels. (Unless you have fwd car with rwd e-brake or the other way around).
For that to work, the engine block has to have some inertia too, otherwise the flywheel may spin smoothly, but the block will vibrate. Normally the block does have way larger inertia, but here I won't be that sure anymore... :-) But still I think it should allow way lower idle than the standard design, indeed...
In the old days of drag racing, when only manual transmissions were available, we'd look for the heaviest flywheel we could find for our small block Chevy's, to help with low end torque. The flywheels from the 348-409 Chevy's, (scalloped valve cover motors from mid-60's), were the best 11" flywheel: 50# (~22KG) After they became too hard to find, I ran a 12" Flywheel from a truck, with an 11" pressure plate, and 10.5" disk to make shifting easier. Worked well. Five flywheels = 50% of engine weight
So now to try the weight on the front crank pulley with the rear as is then without the extra flywheels, I really enjoy these they get you thinking and still very amusing.
Yup, that is true. Getting it to 60mph on a freeway is aonther story.... Used to own a 1981 Rabbit. It was slow , ragged out and smoked like no tommorrow...
No it won’t. A flex plate would NEVER separate from the main shaft and if it did somehow manage to, it isn’t going anywhere except maybe shatter the bell housing.
It does have a practical purpose such as generators, bulldozers, constant rpm varying load applications, as well as rapid/sudden load or high torque applications
It's like a hay bailer, it uses a heavy flywheel to keep the enurtea going through the cutting of the hay. Without the flywheel you would destroy the PTO and probably the tractor as well. Cool video.
Inertia..and inertia increases torque this will be very noticeable basic physics of movement.this channel teaches people without them knowing it,I love it carry on good work you do,lots of effort that you put in are appreciated by your fans🥊
And that's why you want your rims to be as light as possible too. They add rotational inertia to the car, similar to its body weight. When the clutch is engaged, that's exactly the effect you get. You could test engine sound this way because engines generally sound better when they accelerate under load. For the weird noises you heard, they should occur during normal driving too, because as long as there's inertial mass connected to the engine, it will run smoother than without. The springs in the clutch might allow some uneven rotation, but that's about it.
Some power generator are started by a mass that is always kept in motion... This allows to minimise the amount of batteries needed for no-break power systems, since the engine is reaching it's ideal revs in less than 30 seconds.
Many spacecraft are equipped with a flywheel on each axis, to allow for orientation by spinning them up or down, rather than using thrusters. They call them reaction wheels.
Thanks for translating our Ruskie Brother. Empirical vs Theoretical. We need to do stuff and try things instead of trusting what advertisers say. That said, car makers really do their homework obv.
@@salvadorjesse73 are you hacking Wells girlfriend's stuff? That's what I'm doing right now. I got his girlfriend's info when I hacked his. Did you see where I was in there too?
If you placed the pivot on the exact center of gravity it would technically work, though the forces would be immense. If you did it with the flywheel on the bottom it might work. You could also attach shit to the engine to "balance" it perfectly
@@alessandrogallo7969 you would need to attach the carb in a way that centrifugal force allowed it to function.. be hard to start but once going it would work.
When they went to standard hardware bolts for the four flywheels, I was laughing and wondered what they would put in for protection of the flywheels flying off the engine. Instead, they use a hammer to tear out the existing floor so that there is even less protection. When racing, there was an incredible difference between the 20 lb., 15 lb., and 12 lb. flywheels as to stall off the line and the ability to rev quickly. To be putting on 60 lb. or more is insane, especially on a low horsepower four cylinder.
@@ArtisticSep Because the engine is trying to pump large amounts of air at the high rpm, but the throttle plate is closed and restricting air from coming in. Therefore, you get a vacuum between the engine and the throttle plate, and a much higher level of vacuum than normal because the engine is trying to pump much more air than it usually does.
@@janeblogs324 exactly. it's trying to pump the same amount of air, but the throttle plate is closed preventing new air from coming in to be pumped. So when the engine pumps the air out from between the throttle plate and the intake valves, that's called a vacuum, and the fewer molecules are in there, the "higher" the vacuum level.
For drag racing on cars with limits on the motor, the extra rotational energy from heavy flywheels helps launch the car. It also gives a little extra kick when shifting.
I would like to see a lada engine. modified to run on kerosene, like a model airplane engine. Raise the compression and replace the spark plugs with glow plugs, then add a turbo
You would need to change the head to use injectors (probably IDI, so definitely not a straight swap of injectors for sparks). How would the engine run if it just has a glowplug and no fuel?
@@alessandrogallo7969 The engine has exactly the same torque as before. It's just that the flywheel has way more momentum, so the engine will be very hard to stall. The true thing here is that the clutch would indeed have to work harder, but thanks to the flywheels you wouldn't need high engine rpm to move a big trailer, so in the end it might actually put significantly less strain on the clutch than if you tried it on a stock car.
To anyone who really thinks that this could work, I want you to understand the function of the flywheel first. This will tell you why this setup would be a terrible idea for everyday driving, but a good learning experience anyway. The flywheel has teeth along the outside to allow the starter motor to spin the engine. No problems so far... The flywheel mates with the clutch to spin the wheels. Since the clutch mounts the the outside face of the flywheel, we still don't have any problems... The flywheel is rather large and heavy. This is to keep the engine running so that the rotating mass aids the engine between power strokes. A lightweight flywheel is better for performance applications like racing, but impractical for daily driving as it would cause the engine to struggle when taking off from a stop. If a flywheel is too heavy, the engine will struggle in a similar fashion. The engine will have to work a lot harder to spin all this extra weight and will also cause rev hang when shifting into the next gear or a higher gear. Thus making increasing rpm and decreasing rpm a much longer and harder task. Here is the problem. There is too much weight that the engine has to deal with, causing it to struggle. You can move the transmission back on a RWD vehicle like this as far as you want as long as it's mounted securely, but if the flywheel is too heavy, there will be lots of issues with the operation of the vehicle.
No, engine torque will be the same, but with clutch release yes it will put more torque to the drivetrain because you have more rotational.inertia. Its like storing.mechanical energy for.later.use
this was fun. Lots of very old cars had huge heavy fly wheels. Lots of torque but as you say slow reving. Great for torque on a diesel engine. or slow speed steady state stationary engines
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As a automotive technician in the game for over 20 years....
I have to give this guy my respect. He's doing shit that makes no sense, but that I've always wanted to to. Not to prove a point, not to further my education.... But just because he wants to.
Damn.... If only my boss would let me do pointless projects like this.
Crazy Russian mechanic: "We're gonna put five flywheels on this Lada"
Crank main bearings: "Say what?"
More like "cyka blyat!!!"
A 2 liter four cylinder piston might might see 4 tons of pressure at full load.
@@ChevyLaxMan imagine lifting 20 pounds... sounds easier. now put that weight on the end of a 5 foot pole and try again. XD it might be able to hand that weight in one direction, but shift that weight to one side and it can make a massive difference.
Tensioner has collapsed...omg
The let's see experiments usually lead to disasters.
When a Russian says “it looks dodgy” you want to watch out!!
Good one!
oh hell no! I want to WATCH!
Never a truer statement was said
Absolutely! 😂🤣😅😂🤣😎
Thank you for actually doing the stuff the rest of us just sit around and daydream about.
Or, never even think about in the first place...
Very true
I never actually day dreamed about this. lol
Eye daydream you lose.
Try the car when the snow goes away, and you have a big dry surface to try it on. You will get another big surprise! Around 1973 a top NASCAR team tried this concept for their car at Daytona. Their reason was that at Daytona they ran full throttle all the way around the track, and the corners would pull the engine down in revs. Their theory was that the energy in a heavy flywheel would let the engine maintain RPM in the corners. They built a 250 pound (100+kg) flywheel and gave it a try. They were surprised to learn that the heavy flywheel was a big gyro and the car would not turn. When the car came to a corner, it wanted to go straight, through the wall.
Thats called " Procession . I wasnt a problem at normal speeds , with street tires . In Switzerland , they tried , flywheel buses , they spun out on icy roads [ the flywheel was mounted flat on the bus floor .]
@@paulbains9152 i read a wiki article about that bus, those are flywheel batteries. Unfortunally, they dont work with all vibration of a bus. Its great for stationary units and space. Its used for trolleys to give them boost after a station.
Modern version of that flywheell battery is made of carbon fiber composite and its encapsulated in a vacuum or noble gas sealed cointaineer, for lower aero drag. They use magnetic bearings too.
I was disapointed because i was hoping theycould use that technology for electric cars.
@@polentusmax6100 The article I saw was in the 70s , in Popular Mechanics Magazine . These buses were supposedly in operation . The flywheel was flat below the floor . A gear drive connected it to a small gas motor . Ive seen the fyywheel batteries , that can be ganged up , that was different than this .
@@paulbains9152 Precession.
They would have killed that car before then. As you can see, body wise, there's not much left.
Bottom of car looks like it might crumble to rust dust at any second: "We are looking very good."
erm its called "Patina" :)
OH STFU GAYLORD PERSON!!!!
Well I mean it’s Russian man what what do you spec Grab some glue and some duct tape and you get to go
@@davidkaye8712 :D
well yea but this is russia, what'd you expect
I can imagine the stored energy from the extra flywheels would be great for hypermiling and coasting. Well done and another great video!
You bet!
No it would not it would take more throttle to rev up the engine
With a CVT for optimal gearing ratios.
Cool video. It’s extra neat that they got Kermit the frog to do the voice over.
That's because Jordan Peterson is in the hospital.
I cannot unhear this!! 🤣
@@gosupersheep2006 I cannot unread my thought put here first
Yeah I was thinking the same thing I'm going to drop a sub considering Kermit the frog did a great job on the narration
Mmmm ..... Kermit....the Frog.....here
In Russia the wheels fly you.
That little engine has the rotational mass of a Mack truck diesel. Lol
You could also wind the flywheel up with a turbo , called a compound turbo engine , used on Lockheed Super Constellation aircraft .
COP greater than 1 !!
Without the torque and horsepower.
@@paulbains9152 They were called P. R. T. s , Power Recovery Turbines driven by exhaust .
Lada it is
My guess is going to be "The smoothest idle you ever heard."
How low can it go...
Imagine that inrush current in the starter motor with all that inertia to overcome....
@@TerryGilsenan no different when the oil is super cold
@@MyKonaRC Cold oil == more drag. Heavier flywheel == more inertia.
😎
Jesus, that is a horror story waiting to happen.
The energy in that flywheel stack could twist that Lada like a pretzel.
Around 6:35
He says, " It's still vibrating."
Of course it is. It's a Lada. If you look in the owner's manual, under "troubleshooting", under the issue of "no vibrations", the response is, "engine is most likely not running"
That stack of flywheels looks like an iron birthday cake.
@Truth Never Lies lol
@Snappytheturtle pour some grease and enjoy 😋
😂😂😂
4 flywheels + automatic clutch = the perfect beginner's car.
or how about we just make one flywhheel that weighs as much as 4 flywheels and swap them out for when you begin to learn and put a normal one after you get the idea down. would almost eliminate stalls but the other side affects of slow rev and no engine brake seems like a bad idea too..
@@gregthemechanicman Something that automatically goes through the clutch bite point, and automatically holds the revs doesnt strike me as a "learning tool" so much as a never-stall system with caveats😂 .
You don't even really need a clutch anyway... Start the car in first gear with no breaks, it's janky af but does work, when it starts... drive, when you need to change gear, lift slightly off the accelerator slip into neutral then align the revs with what they would be in second gear and slip it into second with as little force as possible, it just clunks in... ect. same kind of thing to change down gears too. I have done this many times as a kind of party trick. No-one believes it's possible until they see it.
@@JessicaMarinaRushie I wanna meet you because a woman that knows this much about cars is extremely rare. 😍
@@JessicaMarinaRushie only issue when having to drive something that the clutch went out and locked together on, when the battery dies from using the starter to crank it.. better hope it's running really good to start with, an old motor that's barely even running on a good day or really hard to start.. gonna kill that battery real quick lol..
I like how he said “we’re not running a welded diff in this car,” like that’s such a normal thing.
Russians typically have spare axles with welded diffs and snow tires mounted, they just swap out the whole axle for winter.
@@edbruder9975 not such a bad idea on a simple RWD car.
@@WineScrounger it is if you plan to use it as a daily driver. makes slow tight turns crappy
@@randal3122 on regular surfaces, sure. Thats why they keep Summer and winter axles.
@@WineScrounger lol thats funny. you change out the pumpkin too then?
Super. I tried this on a VW Beetle. I only added a little over four pounds at the rim of the flywheel, and not only did the engine rev up and down much differently, if you floored it, waited for it to rev up, and then dropped the clutch, it would really burn rubber. 💙 T.E.N. Edit: After reading a bunch of comments, a heavier flywheel means lower miles per gallon and less power available at the drive wheels, however, initial torque off the line and speed shifting are fun. 💙
I bet it could do some wicked clutch pop wheelspin launches. You could have a cheat dragster, just revving a 50 horsepower engine into a giant flywheel for a minute straight, then release and do a tyre smoking 10 second 1/4 mile.
I used to have toy dragsters that basically did this
@@boldsword1 Evel Knievel motorcycle toy? My favourite
@@steven-vn9ui not the one I was thinking of but I did have one of those to play with for a bit at my parents thrift shop, I miss that place we would randomly get the coolest things.
Back in the late 50s it was common to use the heavy flywheel out of a 2 ton truck in dragsters for extra off the line oompf
I've always wanted to do that on a bicycle. Basically when stopped put it in a gear that conects to a flywheel. pedal like crazy then flick a switch when ready and it connects flywheel to wheels. Launch!
When your flywheels have more metal than the body and frame, lol.
This is one of the roughest Lada bodies I've seen on the channel. They are like Yugos that actually stay running and won't give up.
It's like one of those kids car toys. The ones where you have to wind it up by repeatedly running it across the floor, then it takes off
Hahaha
You could prolly get that lada in a kinder egg 🥚
God I love how these guys improvise.
4 flywheels adds "a lada" weight, comrade!
,😂
@Jayson McNamara : D
Ghèghè ^^
Touché!
That old LADA doesn't make 65 horsepower anyway.
,,Seems to be some kind of weirdness with the timing chain. My guess is that the tensioner has fallen apart''
*REVS THE ABSOLUTE SHIT OUT OF THAT ENGINE*
Some Mitsubishi diesels had balance shafts , when they wear the timing gears and bearings ,they have weirdness too .
Abroken chain tensioner would throw the valve timing out. And would damage the engine.
@@THEJR-of5tf Not on a Lada...have you worked on them? :)
@@THEJR-of5tfBased on another comment I'm going to assume that this is a non-interference engine, so if the timing failed, the piston wouldn't touch the valve
If you've watched much of this channel, that is exactly the mode they operate within. It might bite them one day. Especially when you see they are so utterly surprised what the energy stored in a Very quickly spinning wheel can unleash, wheels were tires are centripetally growing and disintegrating 'explosively' (previously standing right in the plane of release). I sound like a broken record but they do take some stupid risks, at times. And the chain worries me FAR less than the flywheels they installed.
You can get away with these lax concerns right up to the very moment you don't, on rare occasions.
Obviously the curse of the FIAT 131 rust issues haven’t gone away . 😵💫
The voiceover is golden LOL I like how he’s translating and in the background my guy is like OOoOoOO
Mad scientists posing as car guys, if only we knew the true translation.
I would turn down the idleadjustscrew on the carburetor and see how low the idle can go. With all that mass keeping the engine turning.
YEA!
Until it misses and goes bang on the next stroke too early :-( might not be smart
@@kitecattestecke2303 would that be from compressing fuel air in the chamber before spark?
@@ponderin I'm guessing that the engine timing would need to be further retarded to run at lower than normal idle speeds. Also you would have even less oil pressure at lower than factory idle speeds.
I believe they are non interfearance engines.
If you used this many flywheels and the "automatic clutch" from before the car would be un-stallable
great comment mate! Next episode: unstallable Lada :))
yeah see they have to try this now
Idi vw is about impossible to stall at idle ,no throttle it'll probably idle up the steepest hill on a normal road.
I think you mean gyro action "prosession " causing it to want to go its own way . I found , that wasnt a problem . The thing I was worried about though , was the bearings in the bell housing , breaking , and this damm thing coming through the floor .
guess you can say it can't start....
...stalin
Smoothest, engagement, ever. Congrats you made an engine that uses it's power to drive a flywheel instead of a car.
Nothing like having a few spare flywheels in your car....you just never know when one may wear out!
😁
3+ tranmissions would be fun! How slow can you go?!?
Tht would be hilarious! I bet it coul crawl up a cliff!
Mechanic : How much torque you want?
Me : *YES*
Hell yeah. Bump!
That's genius!
Skyrim horsepower.
Legends say that no learner driver can stall the engine, even on a slight incline.
Great video. I like how you go from one extreme to the other and compare the difference. You are a true craftsman.
You can see that this man is having so much fun. Messing about in the snow in a car that keeps it rev's going looks like great fun.
Its actually crazy that the fly wheels fit together so perfect
Probably manufactured that way to be more efficient from a shipping stand-point.
@@jhwblender they machined them flat too
perfect for towing heavy trailers! no more crazy reving or stalling at uphill stop junctions!
even my 100cc bike can tow a trailer with thid technology!!
I'm just imagining if the car in front of you stops, up the hill, and you then have to accelerate uphill, with a trailer behind you >.
Great videos, thanks guys I live in Canada and we watch every episode, I'm always fixing me or my family friends vehicles...
There is a vehicle driving and building simulator, Beamng Drive, and the physics are absolutely incredible. One user, put an 1100 pound flywheel on his small car....I laughed so hard...it was hilarious!😂😂😂
I like that they do everything in just one episode and not keep waiting like other content creators
Tune it rich and watch the backfires.
You do realize backfires are when the flame comes out the carb, typically the engine stalls at that point. After fire is when the exhaust flames.
@@tylerbonser7686 im pretty sure its backfire when it comes out the exhaust and its called spitting or coughing when its through the carb but its all preference what you want to call it
A backfire is when the combustion gases ignite while the exhaust port is partially open.
@@tylerbonser7686 wrong
@@kevinragsdale6256 and Johnathan A you guys are unfortunately wrong lol backfire actually is fire through the carb and after fire is exhaust popping
3rd gear on what appears to be off-roading snow, with no engine breaking and no abs, this guy is a maniac hahahahah
Been watching this channel for years and I just love the channel
Keep this car for a later episode. When the snow is gone, do a show on dry pavement.
this is like mechanical battery 😁
This is like mechanical roulette!!
Have a look at compulsators. They’re basically giant mechanical capacitors. Wind them up to hell-on-Earth RPM then dump all the energy at once onto a rail gun or other super high power device. Fun ;)
Would love to see you guys keep this around, and do a fuel mileage comparison on a road with flats and hills with both the stock flywheel or an even lighter one then this setup. Will the added inertia help with mileage over the coarse of daily driving, with a measured fuel source. Great vid. keep them coming.
Good point, that heavy flywheel on a fairly flat course driven conservatively should actually improve gas mileage.
No it won't because the engine needs to work harder to rev it in the first place. If you only ever drive down hill it might help but I don't know anywhere like that.
this was an awesome learning moment.. this means adding a lightweight aluminum flywheel should be a decent bolt on performance mod, depending on what you are putting it in..
i imagine you rev it up and drop the clutch, so much mass burnout in 2d gear xD
Fried clutch more like it
@@janeblogs324 Or broken transmission.
It's a lada, something will break, but not putin
Sounds like the flywheels are "pushing" the engine when coming back to idle.
They are in effect Ronnie, they store energy by being heavy. These guys are crazy haha
@@steven-vn9ui I would bet $.05 that the torque of the engine on a dyno would increase after each flywheel is installed.
@@ronniemaeker9102 no
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@@wrongwheeldrive9605 Physics. Law of motion and mass. Things in motion tend to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. Add mass (flywheels) and the motion is enhanced. That is why early low horsepower engines had big, heavy flywheels to take advantage of the torque.
A heavier flywheel would in theory would have more momentum, I want to see a test of going uphill at 45 mph with and without this modification. I'm wagering the extra flywheels will help it keep steady up the hill than the standard configuration.
Calvin: "That was cool . . . now let's add another SEVENTY flywheels! I wonder what will happen!"
Hobbes: "Yeah!"
do you reckon you can make a clutch out of 50 grit sand paper?
I would think it would have to be THICK. Like layers of it
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@@thatboyj1211 I just want to see if it could be a viable thing to do in a (rather tight) pinch. doesnt actually matter how many layers are there. it can even consist of a wooden frame to press the sandpaper surface on to the fly wheel
Sand paper has bad grip on a smooth surface.
@@nicostenfors5690 what about brake pad
Try this on a Niva and take it off-roading. Watch it climb vertical surfaces.
Sure, with all that added weight I’m sure it will be a great success ... 🙄
The best description for that is momentum. Something heavy maintains momentum longer than something light of the same profile.
love your videos so much appreciate even more that you do english voice over your one of my most favorite youtubers thank you for the epic work you do
Maybe I'm hearing things.( flywheel comes zinging through the windshield)
You mean through the floor boards .
@@paulbains9152 Well , it goes without saying, it would have to go through, first: the bell housing, and then, secondly, the floor boards, ( or tunnel actually) before it made it all the way up to the windshield, but ,yea, ok, that too.
@@treeguyable My flywheel unit weighed about 300 lb . I gained a one gear up advantage at a maximum of about 3000 rpm . If you wound it 2 or 3 times as fast , you would have much more potential energy , but if it ever got away ,it would be lethal . I didnt have the guts to spin it that fast . There was 1 bellhousing of steel , about 3/8 in thick . I balanced it by trial and error . I drilled and tapped holes all around it , and screwed in allen set screws as weight adjustment . If you cleared up the harmonics at one rpm , they increased at another rpm range .
Yeah, I kept thinking, well ,this is gonna end with a ride in an ambulance.🤣
You have 4 that leaves a lot of possible trajectories lol
I think the added mass would make an awesome interstate cruiser and also could be used as a mechanical regenerative braking. As you stop you add your forward momentum to a separate flywheel that spins while the car has stopped. When you want to move, engage the clutch to the flywheel first then to the engine to accelerate once the energy in the flywheel has been used.
You could have a spagg clutch that , that freewheeled , and let the motor drop off in RPM , like a bicycle . I did play with that a bit . It slammed in and broke .
Awesome channel. Here u get experience for everything one has imagined in lock down
Cette Lada se prête vraiment à toutes les expériences!
Merci pour la vidéo.
Poor-boy differential lock: slightly apply brakes to make both axles turn.
was going to say that!! alas modern cars with drive by wire puts the engine to idle when you left foot brake :-(
I do the brake trick on my old tractor without diff lock. Works wonders but the diff is getting a lot of stress.
Applying some e-brake works great for this, since it will only apply brake to the driving wheels. (Unless you have fwd car with rwd e-brake or the other way around).
Flywheel diff lock: put heavy flywheels on each wheel to prevent wheelspin
@ronnie or use the rocking motion and let momentum move your vehicle if you're stuck.
I expected it to significantly smooth out the engine. Weird.
Maybe see how low it can idle now without stalling?
For that to work, the engine block has to have some inertia too, otherwise the flywheel may spin smoothly, but the block will vibrate. Normally the block does have way larger inertia, but here I won't be that sure anymore... :-)
But still I think it should allow way lower idle than the standard design, indeed...
hhahah daamn, I remembered the smell of Lada...some good memories from my childhood. The engine sounds realy good! And thanks for the nice videos :))
In the old days of drag racing, when only manual transmissions were available, we'd look for the heaviest flywheel we could find for our small block Chevy's, to help with low end torque. The flywheels from the 348-409 Chevy's, (scalloped valve cover motors from mid-60's), were the best 11" flywheel: 50# (~22KG)
After they became too hard to find, I ran a 12" Flywheel from a truck, with an 11" pressure plate, and 10.5" disk to make shifting easier. Worked well.
Five flywheels = 50% of engine weight
300 hp nitrous kit on a bone stock LADA !!!
Those are like 700$ lol
Hell yes!
Sounds like a LADA fun!!!
Piston rings will heat up and expand too much and brake a chunk out of the piston or the psitons will melt. Would need extra fuel too.
@@mikeznel6048 so make the total timing 10 degrees / jet up and call it a day, or just let @garage54 do what they do best.
"What if you install FIVE flywheels" ... *installs FOUR* "Thanks for watching and subscribe"
In Soviet Russia Four is Five greedy gopnik
that is why I did not subscribe
Hahaha! xD xaxaxa
Nah if all of them combined its 5
Four on the crankshaft, five on paper ;)
They couldn’t get long enough high strength bolts to use for 5 flywheels.
Redline the RPMs, and dump the clutch, in the snow.....wheel spin for days😂😂😂
Great work. 🔨🔧🔩
Thanks so much for sharing. 😎👌🏼
So now to try the weight on the front crank pulley with the rear as is then without the extra flywheels, I really enjoy these they get you thinking and still very amusing.
Runs like an old non turbo diesel like a Volkswagon rabbit from the eightys
Yup, that is true. Getting it to 60mph on a freeway is aonther story....
Used to own a 1981 Rabbit. It was slow , ragged out and smoked like no tommorrow...
Spot on !. I owned one. Even sounds like it !
@@pauloconnor7951 That Lada probally harder to pick up with 2 people than the rabbit was I would guess?
I had a 79 diesel, first gear idle start off. Just drop the clutch, no throttle needed.
Those things will idle up just about any hill around without touching the throttle.
Watching from the sunny Sunshine Coast, Queensland. Stay warm Garage 54!
This is an awesome video. Great work guys👍🏽
Man, you do not want a fly wheel flying off, let alone 5 of them!
It basically turns into a real life Metalman metal blade weapon from Megaman.
No it won’t. A flex plate would NEVER separate from the main shaft and if it did somehow manage to, it isn’t going anywhere except maybe shatter the bell housing.
@@beaumontlivingston8084 flywheels in a manual have significantly more mass than a flex plate
I was waiting for his Darwin award...I can't believe how many people in the comments are so clueless as to how lucky he was...what a fool
These are the important questions in life. "what happens if I do this absolutely impractical thing"
It does have a practical purpose such as generators, bulldozers, constant rpm varying load applications, as well as rapid/sudden load or high torque applications
and some other practical uses: energy storage or energy efficiency
Very interesting! I didn’t think it would make that much of a difference? Badass lil car to!🤏🏻🤷🏻♂️👌🏻
It's like a hay bailer, it uses a heavy flywheel to keep the enurtea going through the cutting of the hay. Without the flywheel you would destroy the PTO and probably the tractor as well. Cool video.
Inertia..and inertia increases torque this will be very noticeable basic physics of movement.this channel teaches people without them knowing it,I love it carry on good work you do,lots of effort that you put in are appreciated by your fans🥊
TRY THEM AS TYRES
I second that
Tires.
@@Zanelander in America yes they are spelt With an I but in Europe and Asia they commonly use the Y as the sometimes Y rule
@@Zanelander if you're American than yes but the world doesn't revolve around America
@@dietznutz1 Sorta does.
Usual lada diesel sound from a petrol. Great experiment guys. I done this on an old tractor, increases the torque a lot too.
And that's why you want your rims to be as light as possible too. They add rotational inertia to the car, similar to its body weight. When the clutch is engaged, that's exactly the effect you get. You could test engine sound this way because engines generally sound better when they accelerate under load. For the weird noises you heard, they should occur during normal driving too, because as long as there's inertial mass connected to the engine, it will run smoother than without. The springs in the clutch might allow some uneven rotation, but that's about it.
Some power generator are started by a mass that is always kept in motion... This allows to minimise the amount of batteries needed for no-break power systems, since the engine is reaching it's ideal revs in less than 30 seconds.
Many spacecraft are equipped with a flywheel on each axis, to allow for orientation by spinning them up or down, rather than using thrusters. They call them reaction wheels.
Soo what if yall make it sieze up, with all that inertia it'll have to be insane
Pp we
Twist the crankshaft right in two.
Flywheels will break free and take someones leg off
Always wanted to know what it would sound like if Kermit the frog dictated a TV show
Thanks for translating our Ruskie Brother. Empirical vs Theoretical. We need to do stuff and try things instead of trusting what advertisers say.
That said, car makers really do their homework obv.
For a second I though those where flying wheels.
@Wells Benton noone cares
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@Wells Benton exactly. No one gives a shit
Attach engine to a stand with the fly wheel and start it
No... Shops do that daily
@@backwoodsjunkie08 I think they mean with the flywheel being stationary and the rest of the engine spinning
@@oli_g_98 yep, would not be very interesting...
If you placed the pivot on the exact center of gravity it would technically work, though the forces would be immense. If you did it with the flywheel on the bottom it might work. You could also attach shit to the engine to "balance" it perfectly
@@alessandrogallo7969 you would need to attach the carb in a way that centrifugal force allowed it to function.. be hard to start but once going it would work.
Wonderful work! So appreciated and thank you!
When they went to standard hardware bolts for the four flywheels, I was laughing and wondered what they would put in for protection of the flywheels flying off the engine. Instead, they use a hammer to tear out the existing floor so that there is even less protection. When racing, there was an incredible difference between the 20 lb., 15 lb., and 12 lb. flywheels as to stall off the line and the ability to rev quickly. To be putting on 60 lb. or more is insane, especially on a low horsepower four cylinder.
Probably building lunar levels of vacuum off-throttle in 3rd
why?
@@ArtisticSep
Because the engine is trying to pump large amounts of air at the high rpm, but the throttle plate is closed and restricting air from coming in. Therefore, you get a vacuum between the engine and the throttle plate, and a much higher level of vacuum than normal because the engine is trying to pump much more air than it usually does.
@@nickopedia5669 its trying to pump the same amount, its rpm based. All its doing is slowing the rev loss
@@janeblogs324
exactly. it's trying to pump the same amount of air, but the throttle plate is closed preventing new air from coming in to be pumped.
So when the engine pumps the air out from between the throttle plate and the intake valves, that's called a vacuum, and the fewer molecules are in there, the "higher" the vacuum level.
The bunch of flywheels looked like a wheel, how about making 4 stacks and fitting them as wheels.
Don't give them any crazy ideas. Lol.
@@norme1850 *give them crazy ideas!
@@norme1850 Like they don’t have enough crazy ideas already. 😂
Probably been done
Great channel! Keep 'em coming.
For drag racing on cars with limits on the motor, the extra rotational energy from heavy flywheels helps launch the car. It also gives a little extra kick when shifting.
I would like to see a lada engine. modified to run on kerosene, like a model airplane engine. Raise the compression and replace the spark plugs with glow plugs, then add a turbo
So it's a diesel?
You would need to change the head to use injectors (probably IDI, so definitely not a straight swap of injectors for sparks). How would the engine run if it just has a glowplug and no fuel?
Big end bearings would pop off the block. Do you understand the compression differences with diesel engines?
Nice! Always something crazy!
I like watch theese crazy ideas. Greetings from Poland. ✌️
Make a set of 'TIRES' out of a stack of large truck/ heavy equipment flywheels put together!!!!!! :)
Russian cop pulls him over, oh it's you again, why bother. Anyway , what's your act today?
As the cops car is bobbing from the ground shaking .
The cop will probably want to swap cars
Would be interesting to see how good is that car at towing stuff with those flywheels.
I'm guessing it will be way easier than stock.
Yeah but the engine would have zero torque at low rpms, so you need to leave the clutch at very high rpms, so... Poor clutch, it may explode
@@alessandrogallo7969 The engine has exactly the same torque as before. It's just that the flywheel has way more momentum, so the engine will be very hard to stall.
The true thing here is that the clutch would indeed have to work harder, but thanks to the flywheels you wouldn't need high engine rpm to move a big trailer, so in the end it might actually put significantly less strain on the clutch than if you tried it on a stock car.
I think the tires would just spin. Unless you load the car up with sandbags. You need weight and traction to move a heavy trailer.
@@AgneDei it would take off easy but once the clutch is engaged it would be horrible. Lol super slow acceleration. And minimal engine braking.
To anyone who really thinks that this could work, I want you to understand the function of the flywheel first. This will tell you why this setup would be a terrible idea for everyday driving, but a good learning experience anyway.
The flywheel has teeth along the outside to allow the starter motor to spin the engine. No problems so far...
The flywheel mates with the clutch to spin the wheels. Since the clutch mounts the the outside face of the flywheel, we still don't have any problems...
The flywheel is rather large and heavy. This is to keep the engine running so that the rotating mass aids the engine between power strokes. A lightweight flywheel is better for performance applications like racing, but impractical for daily driving as it would cause the engine to struggle when taking off from a stop. If a flywheel is too heavy, the engine will struggle in a similar fashion. The engine will have to work a lot harder to spin all this extra weight and will also cause rev hang when shifting into the next gear or a higher gear. Thus making increasing rpm and decreasing rpm a much longer and harder task. Here is the problem.
There is too much weight that the engine has to deal with, causing it to struggle. You can move the transmission back on a RWD vehicle like this as far as you want as long as it's mounted securely, but if the flywheel is too heavy, there will be lots of issues with the operation of the vehicle.
Thanks. Now i know why my dirtbike is turn off easily. Maybe because the flywheel is too light.
@@mrcolorful4571 adjust your choke, clean your carb, and run good fuel
@@MonsterConrad thanks
i love these guys. would love to visit Garage 54 these guys pull off some pretty crazy junk yard stuff.
Would love do see a full throttle clutch dump on dry pavement, I wonder how hard the car would launch?
With a cloud of clutch dust I'd imagine!
What we really need to know is....
Now what is the torque and hp ratio.
Torque should have raised
HP should've fallen
@@statementleaver8095 Is that true?
No, engine torque will be the same, but with clutch release yes it will put more torque to the drivetrain because you have more rotational.inertia.
Its like storing.mechanical energy for.later.use
@@Angry-Lynx 🤔🤔🤯🤯💩💩
Do you work in parliament?? Bit contradictory aren't you😂😂
This guy and his team are awesome people
this was fun. Lots of very old cars had huge heavy fly wheels. Lots of torque but as you say slow reving. Great for torque on a diesel engine. or slow speed steady state stationary engines
I love watching your videos, its the voiceover by Kermit the Frog that makes it so much more fun!