HONG TAIJI DOCUMENTARY - MANCHU INVASION OF CHINA
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- Hong Taiji, the young Jurchen Khan of Later Jin, followed the steps of his father Nurhaci. He created the Manchu culture and founding of the Qing Dynasty, and launched the manchu invasion of China and manchu invasion of Joseon. In this Hong Taiji documentary, I explain the feats of the first Qing Emperor.
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= VIDEO CREDITS =
* EPS documentary : • EBS 다큐프라임 - '한국사 오천년, ...
* PLAYYMOVIE : • Video
* War of the Arrows (2011)
* The Fortress (2017)
= MAIN SOURCES =
* Eminent Chinese of the Ch'ing Period (1644-1912) , (1943), Arthur W. Hummel, Sr.
* The Manchu Way: The Eight Banners and Ethnic Identity in Late Imperial China, (2011), Mark C. Elliott
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Yuan Chonghuan last words before execution:
"A life's work always ends up in vain; half of my career seems to be in dreams. I do not worry about lacking brave warriors after my death, for my loyal spirit will continue to guard Liaodong." (一生事業總成空，半世功名在夢中。死後不愁無將勇，忠魂依舊保遼東！)
Still loyal to his emperor...
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The Ming had one man who could potentially repel or at least severely delay the Manchu invasion, yet they decided to execute him by a torturous and humiliating death. Well done!
Although this is a video dedicated to Huang Taiji, I still want to honor this one man (yes one man, Wu Sangui not counted haha) who would very well be the Ming Dynasty's last hope against the Manchus.
Thanks for your comment! I might make a dedicated video on him when I cover the Ming dyansty
@@History_of_China hope to see that! Really admire Yuan Chonghuan
Ming Dynasty was so much better than Qing Dynasty.
Empires in crisis under attack by foreign invaders seem to love executing their most competent generals.
For another example, see Stilicho's execution by Honorius in the last days of the Western Roman Empire
@@peterbanh1364 no
they had an undefeated general who has been able to defeat and scare off the jurchin time and time against when all other generals fail yet you are dumb enough to kill him?
they really do deserve to get taken over at that point.
The Chongzhen emperor was probably deperate at that time and acted on impulse rather than reason. If Yuan Chonghuan had lived, the Ming dynasty could probably have survived several more years or even decades
i just read about yuan's death by 1000 cuts, his head being the only recognizable body part left on a rotting disfigured corpse. he devouted everything to the ming and in return was rewarded with the worst treatment...
The matter regarding to Yuan’s death is more complicated than what we might think. From what I understand he’s not as innocent as Yue Fei was, but it is indeed wrong to kill him.
I would not be surprised if they feared he would usurp the throne; in the later parts of the war he’s basically doing what he wants without orders and with a massive army at his back.
Reminds me of when Emperor Honorius executed Stilicho in the late Western Roman Empire
Of course the only general who could possibly stop him was brought down by intrigue. Every time.
The fact that so many Emperors died “without designating an heir” says more about the distrust of their heir than anything else….Protecting oneself-at the expense of possible civil wars after one’s death….
The conspiracy against Yuan Chonghuan sounds remarkably similar to the story of Yue Fei...
If the Song Dynasty did not kill Yue Fei and support him, the Song Dynasty would survive and thrive. China would be a richest country now.
only "similar" if viewed from a high level
we actually don't have as much records from Yue Fei's time as to why he was killed - it is possible that he was more of a propaganda figure put up by Gaozong's heir who's in the pro-war camp
Yuan Chonghuan on the other hand... lied his ass off to the emperor about how he will finish off the Manchus in just 5 years
he then executed the key Ming general Mao wenlong to appease Hong Taji in an attempt to open peace negotiations
but once Mao was killed, the Manchus immediately started raiding the area around Beijing as Mao was no longer a threat in their back (Mao was a threat to Manchu lands from his island base near Korea).
so instead of "finishing" the Manchus in just 5 years, he tried to appease the Manchus, and set off a chain reaction that saw Beijing get directly raided by the Manchus for the first time in history
if i were the emperor i'd be pissed too...
@@therearenoshortcuts9868He fucking won a lot battles though. It is unfair to say he is traitor .
Out of all the chinese history youtubers you are amongst my favorites. good quality work always gains support, i hope you remain patient in building your channel and best of.luck
Thank you so much ! Stay posted, I'm making following video on the Shunzhi emperor :)
Hong Taiji is probably the most talented leader among monarchies of eastern asia in 17th century. His successors wouldn't be able to conquer and successfully rule china without his political and military reform.
Btw almost every video about manchu-qing history there are always some shitty/salty comments from Korean users. It gives me a lot of fun to read them lol.
insert shitty/salty comment
Great Video! Love this stuff!
I came here from caspian report and i am not dissapointed in your channel's content please keep up your good work
Thanks ! I will :)
I also discovered this channel from Caspian Report!
Caspian report is a Turkish aligned channel.. weird
Good stuff! Thank you.😎
Great video. A deft handling of an area where it could be easy to get overwhelmed by the names and places. Hope to see more on the fall of the Ming and Qing conquest of China!
Fascinating as always. Thank you! :)
Thanks for following :)
Another great video on a criminally underrated channel :D
Thanks so much for your comment :)
@@History_of_China Thank you so much for keeping up that insane quality, despite the lack of widespread success!
Fantastic content!! Love it, keep it up 兄弟
Thanks ! Glad you like it :)
Great vid . Love your deep dive format. Keep up the great work 😀
Thank you! Glad to hear it :)
Great video! Keep it up!
Excellent work Sir. Keep up the great work you're doing.
Have been watching these videos since the beginning, and it is wonderful! I’d definitely like to see some mythology stories of China/Neolithic Chinese history 🤗
Thank you ! In time, I plan to cover the most ancient elements of Chinese history too :)
Well done. Thanks for the effort.
This is an absolutely fascinating video. Can you make a video (or two) about some of the common military/troop formations of ancient & medieval China? With such a storied military history, it’s been frustratingly difficult to find information on that topic
Thank you! It's definitely on my checklist. I was thinking about making a few videos about the military of each dynasty, but I'm not sure on how I'll organise things yet
Thank you for such nice work! Best regards from Brazil.
Muito obrigado ! Glad you enjoyed :)
Love whenever this channel makes a new video. How's does this channel have less then 4K subs?!?!
Thanks so much :)
Sad!
Agreed. Hope yr views n subscribers increased in time when English speakers discovered yr channel, like I hv recently. All the best
Only history lovers are here.many people dread history as a school subject..some found it boring( in school)
Another good sharing of knowledge. You do your homework well. Bravo
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Fascinating, as always.
Thanks !
Highly interesting video!
Glad you enjoyed :)
excelent editing and pacing.
Thanks!
Nice
Thank you so much! Qing has a fascinating history.
Amazing video and full of great event's continue that hard work it will pay up... also what's the song you use on 2:09?
Thanks for your comment ! The song is from video game Total War: Attila, here is the link : czcams.com/video/dh9HI4eudR8/video.html
Great video! The history of China is probably my most favorite area of the world to research
Thanks for your comment! It's vastly underrated in the west
Every dynasty has lots of stories to tell
This is a fantastic video..what is that soundtrack?
I appreciate you a thousand times for this series of documentaries. There aren’t many like you who are willing or able to share this much information to the millions wanting to learn about history. Again, thanks a thousand times!
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Awsome documentary i f love old chinese history im watchingthese documentarys everyday.😍😍😍 but what is the name of all the music in this hong taiji documentary do you now.???
Thank you! I mostly used Attila Total War OST, and the Korean war theme from Civilization V
Great and world class documentary video. You narrated so professionally. Is there any Chinese movie out there that tell the story around this period?
Thank you! I'm not sure about any Chinese films on this, but I am sure there are some. I know about a Korean film though, War of the Arrows (2011), which is visually very impressive but focuses more on the invasion of Korea rather than China.
What the name of the ending song? Great video by the way man.
Thank you ! The song is called Lotus Lane by The Loyalist :)
Hello history of china I've watched most of your videos and I like them all. I'm a big fun of your work being particularly intrigued with Chinese dynasties and nomadic empires. Could you also tell me what movie or show that is 17:00
Hey, thank you so much! That clips comes from the 2011 Korean film War of the Arrows :)
Hi may i ask where did you get that line from at 18:36. I tried searching up mutiple variation of that quote but couldnt find any credible sources which was able to dictate the sentences. Mind if you could advice?
Hi! It is from the Qing Veritable Records, Hong Taiji's chapter (清太宗实录) :)
More!!!!!!
Stay tuned :)
Very informative. However, it should be noted that Hong Taiji was personally not known as Abahai. It is now considered a mistake by Western scholars who had used this personal name for him. Hong Taiji has never been known as Abahai in Manchu and Chinese sources. There are many views on why over the years, it was likely misunderstood that his name was Abahai, i.e. his era name in Manchu language was Abkai or that it was a mistake from the confusion of his name with Lady Abahai (Nurhaci's consort).
Wow
It appears that a Manchu general has defected to the Ming (referring to the one dislike).
What is the name of the music song artis that starts 6:17.?:D
That's "Fire and Ice" from Attila Total war OST :)
Anyone noticed that the banners and armor looked like they inspired the space marine chapter design for "Warhammer 40K?"
Are you saying... The Emperor of Mankind is a Manchu?
@@Henrodful Possibly, he led the Manchu to take over
@@Mechabang Indeed. The Emperor of Mankind does look like a Manchu sire, golden robes and all, but minus the Badass hats.
The glorious Qing emperor of the Manchu Imperium!
The emperor of mankind was born in ancient Anatolia in the war. So more like he’s a Hittite
Whats the name of the movie/show in 17:32 please?
I like the Vol'jin Shadow Huntah vibe.
I enjoyed your simple and elegant manner in bringing this history to light. I enjoyed it. ? What was the name of Huang Taiji's favorite wife that died?
Lol, when he said "Nurhaci", I flashed-back to Chris Farley and Mike Myers on SNL (Japanese Gameshow)... "... N-N-N-NUR-ha-chi, J-J-J-JU-ha-chi?..."
... "THAT'S CORRECT!"
Hi what's the background song?
Most music comes from Total War: Attila OST
Is that the atilla total war soundtrack??
It is ;)
I reckon that is like portugal conquering spain, france , and england. Or mexico conquering america and canada . Or japan conquering korea , and china . A lesson learned . Why did the manchus succeed while japans or germanys attempt to conquer their neighbors fail.
this background soundtrack, how can i find it ?
The songs are mostly from the Total War: Attila game soundtrack :)
@@History_of_China cool ! thanks
So is that really how jurchen is supposed to be pronounced or are you doing it because it sounds cool
I'm sure it's as close to the authentic pronounciation as I can get it
@@History_of_China cool
2:39 Nurgachi was instead died in battle against Ming overload, by a cannon shot
Often I think how not designating an heir reflects badly on a leader's competence.
Cause it virtually makes sure that the future will be full of strife.
But the again, designating an heir can in of itself sow discord and unrest among a monarch's subjects/house.
Indeed, and there have been many succesion crises in Chinese history, with or without a designated heir lol
Funny thing i saw is 7:43 his belt buckle looks like the Swedish flag 😂
Manchu folket är svenska confirmed?
Please emperor xuantonh documentary
I'm working on it :)
Hong Taiji doesn't seem to have the queue hairstyle that his family enforced, why?
I'm not sure why he is depicted that way. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the manchu queue was not clearly defined and imposed until later in history
actually i never understood why the Ming emperors would thought that beijing was a good place for a capital when it was located so close to the northern tribes on the frontline?
Anyone knows what that last picture is supposed to show? Is it Beijing in the 17th century?
Not too far off! It's a painting the Summer Palace next to Beijing in the 1880s :)
Cool! It was such a nice painting. Thanks for the response!
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i thought nurhaci was injured by cannon fire from yuan chonghuan's forces during the siege and he died from it a few days later?
Asian history is fascinating
Can you credit the movies you use clips from? Some of them look really cool.
Video credits are always in the description :)
* EPS documentary : www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvDH7...
* PLAYYMOVIE : www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-8f...
* War of the Arrows (2011)
* The Fortress (2017)
The Ming Dynasty had already been in stagnation and then entered its terminal decline by the time the Manchurian tribes united under Nurhachi and began challenging Ming China.
The Ming Chinese were their worst enemy. Typical of Han Chinese dynasties, the Ming began its existence in a blaze of battlefield glory. The Ming consolidated their power China rose once again to great heights of political, economic, military, scientific, agricultural, the humanity arts, social achievements, and international prestige. Then Ming China entered its period of stagnation. The period of stagnation is usually divided between the initial period of benign stagnation to the later period of harmful stagnation. Then Ming China began its inexorable decline, politically, economically, militarily and for similar reasons of previous dynasties. The government became polarized and factionalized into two competing factions, East Bureau versus West Bureau. Nothing could be reformed or accomplished. Each side accused the other's reformers of corruption, malfeasance, and lack of patriotism. Corrupt men accused good men of corruption and got away with it.
Contributing to China's woes was the period of the, "Little Ice Age", which affected global weather detrimentally. China was beset with alternating droughts then floods interspaced with numerous bad weather cyclones, called, sky dragons. Grasshopper plagues ruined crops. Famine and poverty spread through China and the paralyzed government proved inefficient. In the past, strong emperors could force through reforms and circumvent inefficient and corrupt officials. But Ming China suffered weak emperors in its decline, men either too young and inexperienced or else controlled by the powerful eunuchs or dowager empresses.
Ming China had plenty of time to reform and reorganize and recover its economy, but the government was firmly paralyzed by political in-fighting. Worse, Neo-Confucianism was being corrupted and misapplied to justify the status quo and rejection of any reforms as unethical and immoral, complete opposites of what Neo-Confucianism intended. Government officials widely articulated false moralistic arguments to justify rejection of reforms. Neither side could countenance any reforms championed by the other, which might improve its political position and power.
As Ming China fossilized, there emerged a new, united, energetic, dynamic, and virile northern Asian tribal empire, the Manchurian Qing. The Qing were far superior warriors against the inept Ming Army, now composed of the lowest social class of men with the lack of morale and esprit de corps and lack of ethical military officers and all that entails. Mercenaries made up the rest of the Ming military.
As the Manchus solidified their nascent empire under Nurhachi's successor, the Ming proved totally unable to deal with the growing threat north of the Great Wall. Ming China was on borrowed time which ran out in 1644 A.D.
MANCHUED. Merci à toi.
Yuan Chonghuan, an admiral Yi Sun shin, China could have had.
Chongzen emperor of ming China was just a teenager and was far more impatient and hot-headed than seonjo of joseon Korea
But I'd say chongzen emperor was probably much more competent than seonjo which was one of worst Korea rulers.
Chongzen emperor was very hard working but his critical flaw was he was too paranoid and never trusted his competent generals.
The deathblow to ming China was battle of Songshan in 1642, which was direct result of emperor not trusting his general at the scene of battle and instead gave his own order while a thousand mile away from battlefield. Ming lost their last army of 100,000 men, and the top ming general Hong chengchou surrendered to Qing. In this battle Ming squandered pretty much the last army they had to suppress peasant rebellion and it fell to Li Zicheng 2 years later.
@@user-up3dd1vw6b fk ming dynasty
I've seen recent stuff saying that Huang Taiji's name wasn't actually Abahai, and that was a mistranslation or mishearing of his era name. Furthermore, one of Nurhaci's wives had the name Abahai, but she was not Huang Taiji's mother, from what I have read. Though to be fair, this video is from 4 years ago. I do like it though. After the Han, the Qing were always my favorite and my fall back area of study.
Definitely not hungtaiji khan's mother. This mother's name is Monggojeje from yehe nara tribe
I am wondering if Hong Taiji is a descendant of Jin dynasty which was founded between (266-420) by Sima Jin the grandson of Sima Yi?
I was wondering that as well. Calling it Later Jin Dynasty might have some connection to the earlier Jin Dynasty.
yes, same Jin people !
Wrong Jin. The Sima Clan were Han Chinese. The Later Jin were descended from the Jurchen who were Tungistic. The Sima Jin was written 晋。The Manchu were 金. Spelled similar in Roman letters but pronounced differently.
is it me or they alphabet look like mongol script?
Another example of either paranoid or incompetent leader decided to execute their best general and doomed themself,Yuan dynasty also fell like this.
Yuan Chonghuan was just like Antonio Luna, undefeated by the enemy of their state but was executed by their own incompetent leaders.
*Video idea:* Torture & Punishment method in medieval China.
Love the subs, I learn how the Egyptians invade China.
Jurchen Not Egyptian !!
大淩河 was really an act of heaven. They lose because of the wind direction . Even God were on Jurchen’s side that day.
Excellent !!! First time ever somebody " dare " to tell the truth. And the Koreans today still denying the historical existence if the Manchu nation. As the Chinese denying Balhae.
Keep doing it !!!
What? Koreans know that Manchuria invaded Korea twice. They made movies, and dramas involving Manchuria. Idk where you’re hearing “they don’t admit shit” kinda talk
Oh hell yeah
That is the music from Attila:Total War haha
Yep, found it somewhat appropriate as the only war like manchu music I could find was this : czcams.com/video/XxVBB0ynr-o/video.html (dosn't really fit for background music ^^ )
@@History_of_China Manchurian nomads had been east part of HUN empire.
Very appreciated for your video and presentation. But I want to point one thing out. Like too many historical videos or writings, most people deviated from the authentic history when they defined most history into "Chinese". Example, the Ming is defined into Chinese and the Later yuan is defined into Manchu. Others redefined Later Yuan into Later Jin. It was the Ming that fought the Manchu...not the Chinese that fought the Manchu. Technically, the term Chinese was not used until Qing Dynasty and referring to Qing, not Ming.
U got it wrong.the yuan and the qing are the barbarian nomadic minority tribes near china's borders. They're not Chinese. These 2 are the only "foreign"dynasties of china.but of course,when they ruled the country,they integrated into Chinese culture since the majority is han Chinese.
@@Mrs.miriam So, their people who previously came back down to rule China from 16th kingdoms to Tang to Jin Dynasty were all barbarians? These were the same people who just happened to immigrate back towards a later time. Those defining history into "Chinese" really deviate from the authenticity of history in Northern Asia. E.g. Xianbei, Mo Khitan, Mong XiongNu, Mong Jursen/Jurchen, Mong Shiwei were of the same nation. They just happened to immigrated back into the Yellow River Basin during different periods. Those that came first were defined into Chinese and those came later are barbarians?
Something for everyone to think about. When does the term "Chinese" in English first used? When is the term "Hanzu" (not Han) literary means Han ethnic first used in history?
@@HmongUniverse Han and Chinese have same meaning.
@@HmongUniverse China is the romanized word for Qin, the first Chinese empire. The pronounciation of Qin in Chinese sounds like Chine, and the Romans called Qin China, the Persians called Qin Cina, and the Arabs called Qin Sina. Chinese is the English word for "the people of China". But in China, they called themselves Han.
@Dieter Thomas Yes Manchurians are not Han "Chinese", but they were part of refugees from the Yellow River Basin who took refuge into the NE and came back. Han were originally people of Shu, Chu, Yi & Baiyue who took control of the River Basin and formed Han. These people, the majority, overthrew the Yuan government. So, "Chinese" is referring to who?
Why did Hong Taiji not appoint an heir, if he knew that his end was approaching? Was there not a suitable candidate?
As a another one commented: "The fact that so many Emperors died “without designating an heir” says more about the distrust of their heir than anything else….Protecting oneself-at the expense of possible civil wars after one’s death….".
9:37 親小人 遠賢臣 不亡國才怪
Almost every talented official on the eve of country’s collapse suffered horrendous conspiracy and was sentenced to death
song dynasty had yuefei, ming had yuan chong huan..it's impressive how one single capable general's death can change the course of history..
10:40 that is not a struck of luck that is the will of heaven, after the unjust execution of Yuan Chonghuan the Ming just deserved to be conquered. Is fascinating how the history of China is full of these moments.
Song? manchus not connected to attila, huns
no connection to the huns, Jin people looked more like Eastern Asians than the Western Asians. They didn't seem to live in nomadic lifestyle.
The Manchus were thriving. Now? The language is dying, Han chinese are the largest ethnic group. And i feel bad for the Manchus
But the manchus were one of the minority tribes of china even before they had conquered china. Only 2 " foreign" dynasties were founded...yuan and qing dynasties
@@Mrs.miriam What a nonsense. How can be minority tribe of China? They were separate and independent. Language and culture is totally different from Chinese.
You mean han chinese. Manchurian are citizens of ing China. Nuerhachi are general of ming China.
@@dorjbayar1286 Mongols yeah. Manchus?? Not anymore after they assimilated with the Han Chinese for almost 300 years.
@@dorjbayar1286 Manchu cultures nowadays are largely overlapped with Han Chinese cultures
20:00 Wait, Korea was nominal tributary state of Manchu, But They have their own
Diplomatic, economic, and judicial right. They are same position of Vietnam and Ryukyu with Qing dynasty. not Mongol and Siberia.
Mongols were tributary state. Manchu king declared a law that states no Chinese is allowed to settle in any part of Mongolia.
I am Korean. The Qing Dynasty was very powerful at the time. When the Joseon Dynasty couldn't abandon its military relationship with the Ming Dynasty, the Qing Dynasty emperor attacked the disturbing Joseon Dynasty and quickly captured the capital and captured the king's son, causing the king of Joseon to kneel to the Qing Dynasty emperor. The king of Joseon was humiliated by the Qing Dynasty's emperor by bowing nine times and hitting his head to the ground three times. It was the first time in Korean history that a king hit his head on the ground to a foreign monarch in 1636 There is still a monument of disgrace in Songpa-gu, Seoul.
Nomads
Qing is not China. Qing is Korea. Qing Dynasty is Kim Dynasty.
Hahaha stupid
Japan is part of Korea,
Russia is part of Korea,
Europe is part of Korea,
United States is part of Korea,
The Universe is part of Korea.
but.......
Korea is part of China.
KORETARD💩💩💩
Qing people had 4 characters on their names ! unlike Korean or Chinese that use 3 characters.
@@bensontam No please don’t include Korea as part of China. They’ll just claim more Chinese culture that way.