The TRAGIC Fates Of Capote's Swans : An Inside Look At Their Lives AFTER Feud Capote Vs. The Swans

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  • What happened to the picture perfect swans in the aftermath of Truman Capote's expose? What were their lives like afterward and how well did they carry one when it was all said and done?
    FX FUED : Capote Vs. The Swans in not the end of the story. Let's take an inside look at what ultimately happened to Babe Paley, Lee Radziwill & Slim Keith and the rest.
    ⭐⭐⭐ Inside the TRAGIC Marriage of Truman Capote’s Swan Babe Paley ► • Inside the TRAGIC Marr...
    Truman Capote betrayed their secrets to all of the world but his glamorous swans endured. Some continued to reign supreme atop the social ladder, others encountered a tragic descent from grace when their meticulously cultivated veneers were so harshly shattered.
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Komentáře • 270

  • @JoanRudith
    @JoanRudith Před 3 měsíci +105

    Marrying someone you knew your sister wanted to marry doesn’t translate as “had done nothing wrong.”

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +11

      That is a good point. That was the author, Laurence Leamer's quote. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @annettehaven888
      @annettehaven888 Před 3 měsíci +4

      That's what I thought

    • @Joelswinger34
      @Joelswinger34 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Jackie couldn't control who Ari liked . That's stupid.

    • @alisonsneed3707
      @alisonsneed3707 Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@Joelswinger34 Ari would go with whichever. He was himself a social climber. He was short, hairy and dark. His ambition required the ultimate trophy wife.

    • @sammacc4751
      @sammacc4751 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Jackie married Onassis for financial security, to get away from the Kennedy clan and to insure protection for her children. They both knew what they wanted and what they were getting.

  • @yamil.343
    @yamil.343 Před 3 měsíci +35

    Currently watching the series. It’s fascinating. Glad to see Calista acting again. All the actresses & the actor who plays Capote are excellent.

  • @polynesia8733
    @polynesia8733 Před 3 měsíci +82

    slim is so modernly stylish...she wears things so timeless and natural... even looks modern in this century...gorgeous

  • @lakegirl239
    @lakegirl239 Před 3 měsíci +48

    From what I’ve read, Lee and Ari had connected first. Lee invited her tragically widowed sister for a Greek getaway on Ari’s yacht, not anticipating Jackie would “steal her bf”. A former President’s wife was a trophy, and Ari was every bit as much a social climber.
    I thought Lee was so much prettier than her sister, and more talented, but how does a younger sister escape the immense shadow cast by the wife of a President?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +11

      It's true. Jackie did steal Ari from Lee (or at least, it can be viewed that way). Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @ybcarlebach266
      @ybcarlebach266 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Jackie was the amazing beauty.

    • @heydeanie
      @heydeanie Před 3 měsíci

      Not really..​@@ybcarlebach266

    • @maryjaneferguson9432
      @maryjaneferguson9432 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Jackie first went to Ari's yacht, invited by Lee, after baby Patrick passed away. She was married to President Kennedy.

    • @maryjaneferguson9432
      @maryjaneferguson9432 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Lee was the prettiest, most fashionable and most probably lived fun life.

  • @arribaficationwineho32
    @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci +63

    Dominick Dunne wrote a novel abt the .Woodward murder called “the 2 Mrs Greenvilles”.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +13

      Yes and they made a movie staring Ann Margaeret, too. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @marilyntaylor9577
      @marilyntaylor9577 Před 3 měsíci +10

      And it gave you a glimpse into that society.

    • @quester09
      @quester09 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Dominick ruffled feathers, though he was less confrontational than Truman.

    • @lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x
      @lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x Před 3 měsíci +8

      I've adored reading Dominick's and I had felt his family as my own to love. Good people. ✌🏻

    • @carolholly1608
      @carolholly1608 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @caroliamurri3872
    @caroliamurri3872 Před 3 měsíci +89

    This series is so beautifully acted! I'm obsessed!!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +6

      We all are! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness
      @WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness Před 3 měsíci +11

      It’s sooo good. My husband is friends with the guy making out with Calista Flockhart (he doesn’t get a credit. He was a background actor that got pulled out to be a featured extra, got paid $50 extra and no credit.) as Lee Radziwill. I started watching this season because of him being in it, but I am loving this entire season so much. Truman Capote is such a fascinating character and the acting is great.

    • @gissellest333
      @gissellest333 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I know, it’s such a great series.

    • @joniheisenberg
      @joniheisenberg Před 3 měsíci +2

      I love it and am obsessed with Slim Keith’s monkey pillows!

    • @DearBoi-mg2fb
      @DearBoi-mg2fb Před 3 měsíci +2

      The series has been compelling!

  • @marleneg7794
    @marleneg7794 Před 3 měsíci +40

    Jackie straight up took Onasis from her sister. Bad form.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +10

      Yes, I can see how that would have been painful and then to still have to interact with them . Ouch!

    • @adabrettmulligan7249
      @adabrettmulligan7249 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Lee had an affair with JFK while married to Jackie.
      “Pot calling the kettle black.”

    • @jankoza673
      @jankoza673 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Onassis was fascinated by Jackie. She was a trophy for him.

  • @heydeanie
    @heydeanie Před 3 měsíci +19

    As a younger sister who could do no right, while constantly compared to an older golden child sister, i feel for Lee...

  • @bambiprice8186
    @bambiprice8186 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Episode 7 broke my heart. BEAUTIFUL BABE. It really brought the pain to the surface for how Truman felt, and his descent into total alcohol dependence and how he suffered for his addictions and proclivities!

  • @gloriahufnagel5556
    @gloriahufnagel5556 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Truth be told, Truman was a writer. What did they expect, after all? He DID immortalize The Swans. I’m quite sure only a few knew who Babe & Slim were , before this.. I AM ALL INTO THIS! 😂. Joan VS Bette was FABULOUS, so I was waiting & hoping.. THANK.. YOU..

  • @jemois
    @jemois Před 3 měsíci +28

    The template for Bravo’s Housewives .

    • @kellyewers5692
      @kellyewers5692 Před měsícem

      Carol Radziwill from the New York Housewives was Lee’s daughter in law.

    • @jemois
      @jemois Před měsícem +1

      @@kellyewers5692 Ramona Singer is Lee’s doppelgänger. Kristen Wiigs SNL comedic wino portrayal of Kathy is on point and is hilarious!!! I’m convinced, and if Kathy were to replace Ramona, we’d see the same crazy-eyes-pinogrizeo personality 😂 😂 😂

  • @TheKyPerson
    @TheKyPerson Před 3 měsíci +21

    I'm not really in love with the TV show since it takes a lot of license with history, but the acting is excellent. Fun fact - Slim Keith discovered Lauren Bacall. I can recommend the book The Power of Style by Annette Tappert which has chapters on several of these women.

  • @CoolMinded0
    @CoolMinded0 Před 3 měsíci +106

    Ann and Truman were once friends, till Ann made a homophobic joke about Truman to friends. Truman used Ann’s “accidentally” shooting to spite her. Ann’s children threaten to sue Truman for wrongful death, but they never did.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +8

      Check ou t my video on Ann for more about that. czcams.com/video/eBverYp8fX4/video.html Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @ann5765
      @ann5765 Před 3 měsíci +18

      The kids should have sued him ❤

    • @ann5765
      @ann5765 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Slim Keith was a blonde. Not a brunette like in the series

    • @CoolMinded0
      @CoolMinded0 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@ann5765 That’s true; then again they’re taking creative liberties in this series.

    • @tiasusan
      @tiasusan Před 3 měsíci

      @@ann5765 Google her and find out

  • @acustomer7216
    @acustomer7216 Před 3 měsíci +17

    None of these women seemed particularly happy or kind. some of them seemed like high class trollops.

  • @traceymanzano4015
    @traceymanzano4015 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Slim going after Truman, all the while screwing Babe's husband was shocking!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yeah, it was a surprise and not sure how true. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @howto4u705
    @howto4u705 Před 3 měsíci +35

    I think Diane Lane is so perfect for the part of Slim Kieth. She is so beautiful an that jaw line! I didn't think I was going to like the show but watched it because she is in it and I am liking it now . I never could stand Capote. If you watch any of his TV appearances, he is such a creep. I like your videos on the show.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      I like Diane Laner as well. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @ybcarlebach266
      @ybcarlebach266 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think Diane Lane looks dowdy.
      It’s probably due to her hair pulled back so low.

    • @dianakidd4219
      @dianakidd4219 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ybcarlebach266
      Diane looks sexy. Certainly not dowdy.

    • @georgebalsamo1011
      @georgebalsamo1011 Před 2 měsíci

      Did you see Groucho Marx proposition Capote on the Dick Cavitt Show?

    • @sidemann8593
      @sidemann8593 Před 2 měsíci

      Diane Lane gets more beautiful with each passing year.

  • @edreid7872
    @edreid7872 Před 3 měsíci +12

    This is exactly what I needed to fully understand the series.. Thank you..👌

  • @variousJnames
    @variousJnames Před 3 měsíci +86

    These people were no different than trailer trash, just with way more money 😂

    • @pamelahaltmeyer.1288
      @pamelahaltmeyer.1288 Před 3 měsíci +12

      There's a world of wisdom in your comment!

    • @michellelevitt9131
      @michellelevitt9131 Před 3 měsíci +17

      💯 agree. They just do it in expensive clothes and homes . People are people, trailer or Palace

    • @glorialumbano3970
      @glorialumbano3970 Před 2 měsíci

      Spot on!

    • @terireed3740
      @terireed3740 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@pamelahaltmeyer.1288 wow.. that's a little harsh.
      The difference is back then women , as a rule, didn't have too many options. Very very few were able to have careers. The majority of women that were not married had to"take in sewing" or be domestic help if they needed to support themselves or God forbid a family. For most women, marrying well was the best they could hope for. If they were lucky their husband didn't beat them, cheat on them, or best scenario, they actually fell in love. It was expected from those who came from wealthy families as well. At that time it was usually the sons who inherited the money. The girls usually had a dowry that was supposed to attract a suitable husband. "Trailer trash", as you so kindly call those who live in poverty, don't have a hell of a lot of choices either. Although at least now if children study hard they can usually get a scholarship and raise above what their parents accomplished they're still at a disadvantage due to the choices presented and to snobs who call them trailer trash and don't offer them the same opportunities as they might someone a little farther up the socioeconomic ladder. The opportunities for them to meet and marry above their station are slim as people usually marry from the circle they associate within.
      Be grateful if you're in neither situation and maybe have a little gratitude for our sisters who came before us and paid the dues that we don't have to pay, and the ones who fought for the changes that we are reaping the benefits from.

    • @latinguy67
      @latinguy67 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 Před 3 měsíci +21

    The Swans should have been more irritated about being depicted in Capote’s cliché-ridden prose. What killed Capote was his knowledge that he had become a terrible writer.

  • @texasmimi5566
    @texasmimi5566 Před 3 měsíci +19

    I read Leamers book months ago, not knowing about the mini-series. Sorry I returned it to my community library. I enjoyed it.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Now someone else can enjoy it too! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @quester09
      @quester09 Před 3 měsíci +4

      the very best people share gifts.

  • @user-gp7nb4ir6d
    @user-gp7nb4ir6d Před 3 měsíci +10

    you are doing a fabulous job as a documentarian. keep up the good work!

  • @annettehaven888
    @annettehaven888 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Thank you so much for that nice, illuminating bit of commentary. I am interested in these people. It is amazing that they are able to live in the lap of luxury with absolutely no regard for the rest of humanity.
    Lee Radziwell introduces Jacqueline Kennedy to Aristotle Onassis and then he gets together with her, and replaces her sister. If she was hurt and put off before by her father, this would be in addition. This is just so weird. I am surprised that Jackie did it. I wouldn't pick up with my sister's ex... And I have done x-rated films.. Lol.

  • @beadragon1048
    @beadragon1048 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Penelope Ann Miller is a dead ringer for Babe! It’s uncanny how much they look alike! 🤓

  • @historychannelpodcasts
    @historychannelpodcasts Před 3 měsíci +5

    I really appreciate your videos. It must take some research. I love this show just like I loved The Gilded Age and I love that you must love the show as well from all the videos you make around these shows. I like learning the history behind the show characters and that is what I find here on your channel. I am a sub so THANKS for what you do!

  • @MonteCristoAUS
    @MonteCristoAUS Před 3 měsíci +18

    Has anyone looked into the symbolism of the black swans used by Van Sant and adopted by the PR for the series? The Black swan theory is a concept in philosophy seems pretty apt for the series

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      It would be nice to learn a little more about that, if you could tell us more. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @quester09
      @quester09 Před 3 měsíci +4

      the ballet Swan Lake deals with this dichotomy

  • @LannieLord
    @LannieLord Před 3 měsíci +20

    Herbert Ross was NOT an actor. He was a producer / director.

    • @howto4u705
      @howto4u705 Před 3 měsíci

      So....

    • @donnafromnyc
      @donnafromnyc Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@howto4u705A major error.

    • @howto4u705
      @howto4u705 Před 3 měsíci

      @@donnafromnyc Oh give it a break. Give me the link to your video and we'll see how well you do. Oh, you don't make videos? Too hard for you huh!

  • @nonadeplume1145
    @nonadeplume1145 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Imo it would be interesting to see a video about Lee's & Jackie's relationship. Particularly the Lee/Ari/Jackie era.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +6

      Working on that now! If you subbed to my channel you will get notice when it is released.

    • @nonadeplume1145
      @nonadeplume1145 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory I look forward to watching it. Btw, I subscribed as quick as I found your channel! ❤️

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thanks for subbing!

    • @dianakidd4219
      @dianakidd4219 Před 3 měsíci

      Jackie went through hell as a young mom. A husband that screwed anything that moved, then his brains are on her suit, where she could have died too., so if my sister wanted anything after all that I’d let her have it.

  • @samanthab1923
    @samanthab1923 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Capote swore it wasn’t Slim but Pamela Churchill. Her exes new wife. She of the many lovers. From Averell Harriman to many of the Swans hubbies.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +9

      Maybe he said it to avoid being sued. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @arribaficationwineho32
      @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci +4

      A dtr of an acquaintance worked for Pamela in Paris and she was difficult. And mean

    • @samanthab1923
      @samanthab1923 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@arribaficationwineho32 The worst. Leyland Haywards daughter wrote the book Haywire about her time she spent with the wicked step mom Pamela. Only one of her negative traits.

    • @arribaficationwineho32
      @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@samanthab1923 I read that! I did not say what I really thought abt her. Why would anyone be so intentionally cruel? I understand Brooke Hayward didn’t receive jewelry that belonged to her mother

    • @1953childstar
      @1953childstar Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@arribaficationwineho32 Pamela Harriman had been my client for years and yes, she was terse, but all of the women in that era and that "station" were the same or much worse. One of them became an Ambassador / Protocol director of some small pithy country and is a horrible, rude woman ( the worst, and I could not imagine getting the position )… It "goes with the territory"..

  • @Linda-pw8gx
    @Linda-pw8gx Před 2 měsíci +2

    I feel most sad for babe, the betrayal was the worst thing he could have done.

  • @KK2squared
    @KK2squared Před měsícem

    This series helped me to understand my mother and grandmother so much better. Gran was a socialite and tried to create the same in her daughter. My mother disappointed my Gran by “marrying down”. My dad was raise poor and was happy living “low class”. My mother would always say “never trust a man to take of you”. My job most of my life was to keep her happy and do whatever she asked. She couldn’t afford a maid and cook like Gran, so I became one per her demands at the age of ten. They were both self centered and their lives revolved around acquiring the things they wanted. Accepting only perfection from those around them. While they ignored all their families needs and feelings. My mother’s favorite saying was “if you quit wanting you might as well be dead”. As for my Gran, she dumped when she realized I would never be pretty enough for my Gran to groom into a socialite. They both gone now and I grieve them and what could’ve been.

  • @virginiaviola5097
    @virginiaviola5097 Před 3 měsíci +14

    I do and always did adore Lee Radziwill and couldn’t stand her sister..and that was a child’s impression that only became more consolidated over the decades..Lee *was* beautiful, and Jackie did eat her life. I adore Lee.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci

      It was an interesting rivalry. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @virginiaviola5097
      @virginiaviola5097 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@JackMason-oq8lf but that’s all Jackie ever was..a trophy wife. Lee had spark and spirit and a personality. Real style and real class, and was by far the true beauty of the family. It is a real pity that she had to spend her life living in the shadow of a vapid and vain older sister. Lee shone in a way Jackie never did.

    • @kencockrell3977
      @kencockrell3977 Před 3 měsíci

      Lee Radziwill was a terrible snob.

    • @valerieneal2747
      @valerieneal2747 Před 3 měsíci

      @@kencockrell3977 BUT JACKIE WASN'T?

  • @rosemarywaldie4958
    @rosemarywaldie4958 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed the series ❤️

  • @valerieladeda
    @valerieladeda Před 3 měsíci +8

    Thank you for posting this well-crafted video. However, I am curious about the odd thumbnail. It is a mix of historic "real swans" and the contemporary actor who portrayed Capote from the FX series. (??)

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      To me, it symbolizes my video. A mix of elements from the show with the history behind the show. That is the aim of this channel. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @duchess_of_petty9323
    @duchess_of_petty9323 Před 3 měsíci +13

    What about CZ? I’m fascinated by the show and the swans

  • @arribaficationwineho32
    @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Babe Paley was SO gorgeous!

  • @arribaficationwineho32
    @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci +8

    What is sad abt his ruination after his book is that only socialites in NY knew who the ladies were. It should not have caused a rift. It was fiction

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Good to hear your side of it. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @lesliewarnell5172
      @lesliewarnell5172 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Fiction has several sub-genres: science, historical, and realistic. The latter is the point of contention here. 📚

    • @vickiepaul8258
      @vickiepaul8258 Před 3 měsíci +1

      So you wouldn't mind if your "friend" spilled your confidences to the world. I only knew Mrs. Kennedy and her sister because of the former President, I knew nothing of the others but their acquaintance probably had all their suspicions confirmed. He was absolutely wrong.

    • @arribaficationwineho32
      @arribaficationwineho32 Před 3 měsíci

      @@vickiepaul8258 he did not use names. No one outside of the circle would know those women

  • @user-kn4yl4ey6f
    @user-kn4yl4ey6f Před 3 měsíci +1

    Brilliant!

  • @fashionistalagerfeld1954
    @fashionistalagerfeld1954 Před 3 měsíci +7

    All these women did was to make sure to marry wealthy men.
    Whst’s Love got to do with it.
    They weren’t any better than the people they snubbed.

  • @tryingtobethebestme6358
    @tryingtobethebestme6358 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Babe paley homes are amazing

  • @r.stevens6205
    @r.stevens6205 Před měsícem +2

    What’s so tragic!!? They lived an extremely privileged life with all of the ostentatiousness that comes with it. Then they died like anyone else😳

  • @jeffcampbell1555
    @jeffcampbell1555 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Truman undoubtedly had literary talent, but it failed to anchor his intelligence in subjects of enduring human significance after In Cold Blood. He remained enchanted by the rich and beautiful. The Swans were all gifted; smart, amusing and quotable. Their beauty and style made them photogenic and newsworthy. Their shared tragedy is an emptiness and dissatisfaction beneath the public abundance, privileges and fun. Truman eventually realized even his God-given way with words couldn't endow their stories with deeper meaning. Frustrated, he wrote a salacious fluff piece about them laced with venom they would recognize. The Swans were his muses, yes: Inspirations for prose about human smallness and the impulses that cause it. So, he revenged himself, a life-long reflex, and got what he deserved.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I agree with you. If he had just gone a different direction and paid attention to his partner, Jack Dunphyn, who had the correct opinion of the whole NY society - imagine what he could have accomplised and how much longer he could have lived!Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @valerieneal2747
      @valerieneal2747 Před 3 měsíci +1

      DEFINITELY AGREE. HE WAS AN AWFUL HUMAN BEING.

  • @ellebassa9288
    @ellebassa9288 Před 3 měsíci +8

    CZ ,Lee and Joanne are my favorites

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +3

      I plan on doing Joanne and CZ next! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @shadrach6299
      @shadrach6299 Před 3 měsíci

      C Z had a head on her shoulders, she was successful on many levels, she kept her own counsel and she was forgiving.

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I understand why he loved Babe so much. I love her too.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      She is sublime. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 Před 3 měsíci

      I doubt he loved her or he wouldn't aired her dirty washing so publicly he was a parasite

    • @chinavaughan6383
      @chinavaughan6383 Před 3 měsíci +4

      He said he loved her, but he brutally betrayed her😢

    • @donnafromnyc
      @donnafromnyc Před 3 měsíci +3

      Babe was betrayed by both her husband's, especially Paley.

    • @valerieneal2747
      @valerieneal2747 Před 3 měsíci

      @@chinavaughan6383 BECAUSE ALL OF THESE WOMEN WERE PEOPLE HE COULD NEVER BE, HENCE THE BETRAYAL. CAPOTE MESSED OVER SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT KISS HIS WHINY LITTLE BEHIND. THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT HIM THAT I EVER LIKED. HE WAS MANIPULATIVE, CRUEL AND NARCISSISTIC.

  • @BlueBonnie764
    @BlueBonnie764 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Too much...never enough ✨

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Back here again to say: Slim Keith is the most beautiful and photogenic woman I've ever seen, hands down!

  • @collnss
    @collnss Před 3 měsíci +4

    I’m confused about the timeline. Truman’s article was published in the 70s but the women’s dress styles seem much older.

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 Před 3 měsíci +5

    But again: The B&W ball happened in 1968 and all the swans attended...

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +3

      Right and the article that made everyone so mad was published in Nov 1975. I think the confusion is that the article is calle La Cote Basque 1965 and that is because the story line in for 1965 - but again, not published until 1975. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @MissPerriwinkle
    @MissPerriwinkle Před 3 měsíci +3

    swans are tough....im surprised they didnt laugh at the story he wrote, and moved on.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci

      There was one who did. Just did a video about her. czcams.com/video/FNkNHpGtZPw/video.html

  • @dionnegonsalves8188
    @dionnegonsalves8188 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Babe Paley was the one with the "Swan like" neck.... long, tall, elegant.

  • @sampa2nyc
    @sampa2nyc Před 3 měsíci +3

    Herb Ross was a very successful film producer and director.

  • @johnmycroft3065
    @johnmycroft3065 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Truman was such a queen

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yes and he wasn't going to hide it! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @valerieneal2747
      @valerieneal2747 Před 3 měsíci +1

      SO TRUE; ALSO CONNIVING, MANIPULATIVE AND NARCISSISTIC.

  • @michaeldenney6622
    @michaeldenney6622 Před 3 měsíci +5

    i think truman wanted to be inthoseupper levels of society on his own merit not to be included as asort of pet

  • @samueljaramillo4221
    @samueljaramillo4221 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Great series. It showed they were the worst is NY society.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Much like the show, The GIlded Age. Money does strange thing to people. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @DEWwords
    @DEWwords Před 3 měsíci +3

    True was a notorious liar. Even those who liked him knew it was true. He embroidered .

  • @Mrrossj01
    @Mrrossj01 Před 26 dny

    Ann Woodward was a dancer in a chorus line in a club catering to men. After the performance, the chorus girls would accept invitations from the men to join them at their table. This is how she met her future husband’s father, who, it was rumored, she had an affair. He introduced her to his shy son. Marriage was not intended. Woodward’s mother, Elsie, was furious when Ann married her son. Ain’t love wonderful?

  • @latinguy67
    @latinguy67 Před 2 měsíci

    He was only 59 when he died. But Capote looked like he was in his 80s.

  • @nurseKathyAndTheLas
    @nurseKathyAndTheLas Před 3 měsíci +7

    It’s “Jack-Leen” Kennedy Onassis, my dear. That’s how Jackie pronounced her name.

    • @Miss_Meee
      @Miss_Meee Před 3 měsíci +6

      Wow the pretension is THICK

    • @nurseKathyAndTheLas
      @nurseKathyAndTheLas Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Miss_Meee Well I was just teasing. However that’s honestly how her family, the Bouvier’s pronounced it and therefore she grew up to pronounce it. I don’t know for sure. But it may have to do with her father’s family being French-Canadian immigrants. Possibly the “French” persuasion in the pronunciation. Very very wealthy French-Canadian family.
      Her daughter Caroline’s name they pronounced “Caro-lie-ne”. In fact Neil Diamonds hit song “Sweet Caroline” was written about her and seeing her all over TV and the press particularly after her father’s assassination.

    • @nurseKathyAndTheLas
      @nurseKathyAndTheLas Před 3 měsíci

      @@Miss_Meee Then again maybe Diamond is fickle or just getting old. I know I am
      Inspiration
      Diamond has provided different explanations for the song's origins. In a 2007 interview, he stated the inspiration for the song was John F. Kennedy's daughter, Caroline, who was 11 years old at the time it was released. Diamond sang the song for her at her 50th birthday celebration in 2007. On December 21, 2011, in an interview on CBS's The Early Show, Diamond said that a magazine cover photo of Caroline as a young child on a horse with her parents created an image in his mind, and the rest of the song came together about five years after seeing the picture.However, in 2014, Diamond said the song was about his then-wife Marcia, but he needed a three-syllable name to fit the melody

    • @TheDriftwoodlover
      @TheDriftwoodlover Před 3 měsíci

      @@nurseKathyAndTheLas If you listen to the lyrics to Sweet Caroline and consider he wrote it with a little girl in mind, it’s sick. Lyrics are sexually suggestive.

    • @nurseKathyAndTheLas
      @nurseKathyAndTheLas Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheDriftwoodlover you didn’t read what I posted above did you ? He has said the first inspiration was a photo of Caroline on a pony pictured with her parents. Formed part of it. The rest was written about his wife

  • @debrafrakes6479
    @debrafrakes6479 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I listened four times before letting you know that President Kennedy wasnt assimatednin the late 60s.

  • @LaurieValdez-zk3dy
    @LaurieValdez-zk3dy Před měsícem

    Who needs friends like that ???
    Is nothing sacred

  • @georgetteconstant9050
    @georgetteconstant9050 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What I was looking for was the tragic consequences of smoking. Babe died of lung cancer and one other...in the Liz Razewll interview many years later at an advanced age, she is put together and attractive but dollars to donuts she had COPD. This is evident because of her breathing, seen as she draws air from her neck muscles.

  • @terireed3740
    @terireed3740 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think that Babe Paley looked better after the reconstruction due to the automobile accident. Her's and her sisters jawline was off somehow. It was very broad and long, at least in my opinion. The jaw reconstruction she had to have looked much better to me.

  • @Joelswinger34
    @Joelswinger34 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Of course, if they had been honest about who they were to begin with, it wouldn't have been a problem.

  • @Dhruv_Dogra
    @Dhruv_Dogra Před 3 měsíci +6

    Capote was so cruel. He literally murdered Ann Woodward with his vicious gossip and book, knowing she was depressed and a little push over the edge would suffice. She came from a decent family, her mother was among Kansas University's first female graduates and father a retired army oficer.
    All this for using the f****t word for him once when he pestered her for tidbits one time too many.

    • @valerieneal2747
      @valerieneal2747 Před 3 měsíci

      I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT. HE WAS A VAIN, CRUEL NARCISSISTIC, EXTREMELY FLAWED HUMAN BEING. HONESTLY, I BELIEVE HE WAS ENVIOUS OF THE SWANS BECAUSE HE COULD NEVER BE WHO AND WHAT THEY WERE: REAL WOMEN WHO HAD LIVES HE COULD NEVER TRULY BE A PART OF.

    • @moonlike19
      @moonlike19 Před 2 měsíci

      Woodward killed her husband

  • @Heothbremel
    @Heothbremel Před 3 měsíci +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kendn01
    @kendn01 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Truman Capote betrayed no one. Truman Capote was a writer, and he wrote. Writers turn what they see and hear into myth when they write. If those women were too dense to understand the process by which reality becomes art, that was their own problem and not Capote's.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci

      Always good to hear the other side of things. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @ann5765
    @ann5765 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Jealous of her sister! My younger sister has always been jealous of me. I’ve always been nice to my sister

  • @aprilthomas5485
    @aprilthomas5485 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Capote not good ppl he was phony ..petty.. jealous messy he wish he was the women he knocked 😒

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Seems to be the consensus- in large part anyway! Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @sheilajoyce5273
    @sheilajoyce5273 Před 2 měsíci +1

    😊😊

  • @DavidSmith-ss1cg
    @DavidSmith-ss1cg Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lee and Jackie were both step-brothers to Gore Vidal; another prickly homosexual genius like Capote. Lee wasn't likely to ever attack him in court to help one of Truman's pissing-contests(which he kinda lived for and got mixed up in all the time - he had a hard time giving a shit about other mere mortals or their feelings). Like many idiot-savants, they have difficulty sorting out the idiocy and the brilliance.

  • @somethingclever8916
    @somethingclever8916 Před 2 měsíci

    Anne Woodward was never a part of NY society. She was a showgirl who married her way in. And women have no problem turning their back and exclusion to people they dont think they belong.
    It's something one only feels but never sees.
    Women have all the power. They just tell men that they do

  • @Lilianamarie999
    @Lilianamarie999 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fancy women, sleeping and/or marrying to the top. Not sure they deserved the embarrassment but the way they shuffled husbands and lovers, they weren't expecting the writer to write about them? It's weird they were kind of naive about Truman. He was an unabashed social climber with a relentless memory. What I need is a line graph with all these connections lol

  • @michelleadams474
    @michelleadams474 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Didn't Lee resent her sister Jackie in part because Jackie married Onassis and Lee was having or had an affair with him?? I'm just going by the FX series.

  • @terry4137
    @terry4137 Před 2 měsíci

    They all were horrible ppl. They still are today. Their is a lack of self respect as they displayed on the outside. The old saying “ Do right even when no one is watching!” (sic)

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 Před 3 měsíci +5

    The Swans' (society ladies) reputation was ruined by Capote, which of them didn't recover after getting exile from this mess of this exposed.
    Not feeling sorry for Capote who his life was ruined by addiction costing his life.

  • @ruthgunneson-poling1571
    @ruthgunneson-poling1571 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What's up with the weird ending? She's smiling as she recounted the woman's suicide. Tactless to say the least.

  • @garycolton6522
    @garycolton6522 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Doomed to be nothing more than lonely show ponies.

    • @lizadivine3785
      @lizadivine3785 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What a sad existence right? Loved only for how one looked and never how one thought or treated others…

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +1

      It was the contract they operated under in order to stay in the money! Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @renshiwu305
    @renshiwu305 Před 3 měsíci +3

    "Most Beautiful Girl in Radio?" Ummm...aurally?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, it was such a thing. Check out my other video on Ann Woodward for more detail czcams.com/video/eBverYp8fX4/video.htmlsi=GVVHXYHB6CI6dTpr Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @donnafromnyc
    @donnafromnyc Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lots of errors here. Slim Keith was a fashion icon of the late 1930s into the 1940s.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      She was born in 1917, making her only 13 in 1930 and 23 by 1940.. She was a fashion icon into the 60's; not just her early days.

  • @scottielover5415
    @scottielover5415 Před 2 měsíci

    Truman Capote was a ... fill in the blank!

  • @jen6319
    @jen6319 Před 3 měsíci

    Why is she standing at the end and pointing and laughing ?

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Babe should have stayed at Vogue

  • @fiddyteen
    @fiddyteen Před 3 měsíci +6

    Joanne seemed desperate to be a swan.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I understand that she was more down to earth and that is probably why she never really was part of the elite NY circle. Not to mention her life was more on the west coast. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 Před 2 měsíci

    These people were of no real accomplishment. Wasteful.

  • @paularembert
    @paularembert Před 3 měsíci

    Did Slim Keith really have an affair with Babe’s husband like they depict in the series? If so, she was not a very good friend!

  • @patgal2359
    @patgal2359 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ex ploi TAY tive

  • @claudetteholloway1126
    @claudetteholloway1126 Před 3 měsíci

    Hearst died in 1950...

  • @seaturtlegrl
    @seaturtlegrl Před 9 dny

    All the drinking and smoking made them age like complete shit. I’m so glad I’m not from that era.

  • @patstevens2959
    @patstevens2959 Před měsícem

    Who the hell wasTruman Capote anyway???????????

  • @lesamisdelacuisineprovenca9534
    @lesamisdelacuisineprovenca9534 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The café society....
    Happy fews american housewives...

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Most of the female actresses had too much plastic surgery

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lee had a wart on the side of her nose

  • @badguitar5653
    @badguitar5653 Před 3 měsíci +3

    who on earth is voicing Capote in this video? Capote was not British ffs

  • @beckykent6674
    @beckykent6674 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Loved this series except for the horrible sex crap between capote and his lovers. They didn't have to be so graphic in this but then again, this show was done by a gay guy!! Should have left that out!

  • @lizadivine3785
    @lizadivine3785 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lee looked like a duck with a wart in her old age.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +2

      So funny. Others are posting that she is so beautiful and I think so too! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @heydeanie
      @heydeanie Před 3 měsíci +1

      Let's see how good u turn out in your twilight years...

  • @ritacatalinich
    @ritacatalinich Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don’t think they captured the elegance these women had in real life in the show, these women were incredibly chic , the style of their hair & clothes were just so elegant in those days , the show lacked that elegance of that era .

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That is a good point!Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @moonlike19
      @moonlike19 Před 2 měsíci

      I don’t see it in the original photos, they just crawled to the top and clung on, not really elegant

  • @twerkinthecityhuh6340
    @twerkinthecityhuh6340 Před 2 měsíci

    I really despise having narrators that aren't even born when these events happened... This can't be a.i. since there are no mispronounced words.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  Před 2 měsíci

      It's not ai. It is my own narration and I cover lots of history where I couldn't have possibly been born yet. But, hey! Glad to see you here!

  • @lowelldaniel5298
    @lowelldaniel5298 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lee was Onassis squeeze