Israel Has No Post-War Gaza Strategy.
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this is super stupid title
of course it has a POST WAR strategy - de radicalization
An education system that actually produces economic result
you know how doesn't have a POST-WAR strategy? HAMAS! Just more islamic extremism and terror
Palestine are labeled terrorist, but Ukraine are freedom fighters, can you please explain?
@@moezmedia98
Point 1: Hamas say Israel has NO right to exist. Ukraine does not say that about Russia. It only wants Russia to get out of Ukraine.
Point 2: Hamas killed 1,200 civilians on oct 7th, and only 200 military. they clearly targeted civilians for being part of the only jewish state. that's a 5 to 1 ratio
They are terrorists because "it is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims" SO CLEARLY Hamas targeted civilians
Does Israel target Civilians? No. The 30,000 Gazan casualties is a lie, the UN had to revise the number of woman and children casualty numbers by 50%! That's right, in order to make it seem like, Israel was only targeting civilians - Hamas LIED no to mention, Hamas considers a 15 to 18 year old with a machine gun a child.
so, 36,000 total -10,000 fake numbers -13,000 militants killed. that leaves only civilian 17,000 deaths
17,000 to 13,000 that a 1.5 ratio which is pretty amazing considering Hamas Islamic extremist build tunnels and command centers under and in hospital, schools and other public civilian spaces. Israel is waging a war and there are always civilian deaths.
IN Ukraine, the Ukrainian armed forces has not killed ANY Russian civilians
Point 3: Hamas terrorizes its own people. Iran does the same. You don't seem to understand the concept of what has been going on. Arab Islamic extremist colonized Israel and Jerusalem and had been imposing the most repressive, apartheid regime for 1,400 years.
You support Hamas you agree to support,
- Child marriages
- legal physical violence against woman
- stoning to death gays
- the taking away of rights of woman to work, speak and travel without asking for permission
- sharia law and the criminalization of any other religion to be practiced openly in public
@@moezmedia98 Why are you asking GTBT a question that you already know the answer to?
Why are you guys lying? Israel's published a post-Gaza plan in which they partnered with Egypt, UAE, etc in forging.
I think the strategy is "No More Gaza".
If that was the strategy, 8 months of war would have killed more than just 5 % of the population.
The deaths per day are going down, with the deathrate right now it would take 17 years of ongoing war.
Please use your head, instead of buying into propaganda.
Not too hard to figure that out.
figures crossed
That would be the best outcome. You dont get to start 7 wars, lose them all, and demand land that was never yours to begin with. Palestinians are the descendants of N African, and mostly Turkish migrant workers. There were not very many Arab families sharing the area with the Jews, who had never left to start, and they sold the land to the Zionists. This is when the migrant workers came, and then the Arabs attacked the Jews while still under the British mandate. This is because they became jelous of how the Zionists had made the land productive.
Yeah they are going to send them all to the west bank.
It's remarkable that major new organizations like the BBC, CNN and C4, despite their huge budgets and resources, can't match the level of strategic depth and analysis provided by small YT creators like GTBT. The mainstream media frequently resorts to emotionally manipulative reporting on Israel-Gaza with daily 'oh dearism' stories that highlight suffering without helping the viewer understand the deeper geopolitical context. Well done for producing such objective and insightful content.
They (those who control the media) don't want you to think. Likely this analysis will also be suffering with some level of youtube shadowbanning.
their function is not to make you understand lol
they proved to be left wing propaganda
It's not a budget problem.
Seriously Australian public broadcasting should set aside a segment for this every week. This would be incredibly useful for a lot of people that don’t want to go out of their way to know this, but would watch it if put in front of them
7:37 jeez this some Austria-Hungary Serbia sounding negotiations
History rhymes and repeat itself.
The hamas proposal was completely different to the one Israel proposed. It is transparently unacceptable to Israel.
The amount of self destructive knee jerk reactions here could make Kaiser Wilhelm blush
unfortonately i have to agree. like everything going wrong with israel the goverment is criminally incompetent to the point it seems they do so intentionally.
i want to emphasize that no group in the country supports their actions because they are somehow too soft for the hardlines and too hard for the common citizen and in addition they do things in the worst way possible.
it's honestly impressive how bad they are since they always chose the absolutely worst way to do things.
And what way is better? I - ukrainian think that Israel is showing the world how to solve real problems and I am willing to listen to your oppinion what should Jerusalem do
@@user-bm9nn3jw3i I think russia is doing a great job too by solving their problem as they do now
Europeans don't know about threat from Iran, Russia, and China. You live without problems, when millions of people died because of Iran , China and Russia. You have to fight for the world that you have. If you don't, then Dictatorship will win.
Which group are you talking about?? Ask Israelis and they will say bring back all the hostages and make Hamas pay
@@user-bm9nn3jw3i nonsense
In support of Justin. Major news channels seem to focus on small stories and outdated videos of booms, sometimes even with a map and some lines.
GTBT makes an overall picture using different sources of information just by himself
Outstanding. Keep up the great work!
There is no post war Gaza strategy because there would be no more Gaza.
Touche for Israel
Israel offered control over Gaza to Egypt, Saudis, etc. they all declined. No one wants to solve this or has any solution..
I've never thought I'll see a nasi or something close to it exist in my life after wwii and yet fascist still exist unfortunately and it have many forms
@@USSAnimeNCC- You seem lost. I wish they still did but unfortunately not. You imagine them everywhere, behind every closet and under your bed. It's not true.
of course they will keep some Palestinians in Gaza. They are as much a political asset for Israeli right wing as they are for Iran. You keep some angry, dangerous and desparate Palestinians in Gaza, to threaten the Israeli public with another terror attack. This is how the Israeli right-wing solidifies their power for decades to come - maintain a well-justified fear of the Arabs. This war is political gold for Netenyahu and the Israeli right win, just as much as it is for Iran.
You spoke of a possibility of a 'full-scale' Israeli invasion/offensive. I didn't quite understand that. What is missing for the current scale to not be considered 'full-scale'?
They only invade northern Gaza instead of all of Gaza
I think they still only deployed around 30k troops out of 173k in the IDF + almost 300k reserves that they dont want to throw into the meat grinder right now, or maybe they hold them back for a potential Hezbollah Conflict.
it was in regards to offensive on Rafah in Palestine
What about west bank?
@@unktzor i don’t remember Israel fighting there, as their objective is to
kill people of Gaza, as much as possile, oh i meant to neutralise HAMAS fighters, which are in Gaza. West Bank is controlled by Fatah
Been trying to keep track of the whole situation from 10/7 to now and it seems like the entire war is only continuing due to the politics and less out of necessity.
This is so well done. Great work
Oh, wow, Netanyahu vetoed the possibility of any peace and reconciliation?
Shocked I am, shocked, I tell you
a reconciliation with Hamas isn't really possible, is it. firstly he tried to do so with "silence in return for silence" policy, second, hamas themselves made it very clear that no peacful resolution to the conflict or any two state solution is possible. if hamas isnt gone, the next war will be fought sooner rather than later
@@sanfinnik A reconciliation with Netanyahu isn't really possible, is it. Firs he tried to do so with the "right to return" policy, second Netanyahu himself made it very clear that no peaceful resolution to the conflict or any two state solution is possible. If Netanyahu is gone, the next war will be fought sooner rather than later
@@sanfinnik right to return was never allowed to happen. Netanyahu has made dozens of false promises and intimations of things he never intended to deliver.
Hamas vetoed the possibility of any peace ad reconciliation by their attack on November 7th of last year, that proved once and for all that the Palestinians don't want peace and they don't want a 2 state solution, they want a one state solution and no Israel, as Israel is the stronger party this is not going to happen, so the only solution is to move the Palestinians out of the area so they can't start any new wars against Israel. I would suggest they go to either Iran or Russia, since those two countries are supporting them, even though Putin claims to be fighting Nazis in Ukraine!
Good stuff as always
Good stuff
Bad stuff
Egypt is such an interesting player to this conflict.
Thank you for you in-depth analysis!
Hydra effect is about to multiply Hamas in Gaza, Netanyahu doesn’t care about ending Hamas at all… solely about appeasing the far right within Israel to remain in power with the added benefit of building beach towns for insane Israeli settlers over the burnt remains of Gaza.
Don't think so. Israel already tried appeasing Hamas by allowing Palenstinians to travel to Israel for work and other concessions. Didn't work.
Hamas was already at least 50% of Gaza. And Netanyahu isn't appeasing anyone, he's using the war as an excuse to maintain power as right before Oct 7 a third of the military was on a "soft strike" as Net has gone full tyrant. Almost like the Oct 7 attack that Mossad somehow had no idea about was perfectly timed for him to consolidate power....
@@birdstwin1186 Oh my, how generous of the Israelis to allow the people they forcibly displaced decades ago to work in the Jewish settler-colonial state that was established in their old lands.
@@birdstwin1186 So... work for the state that was biased against you from inception, where you have no representation? What could possibly be the outcome?
The sad part? Netenyahu and his security establishment actually do best when there is a stronger enemy to point to and say: this is why we exist, give us more power.
That Phyrric victory comment- hits hard, but damn true.
Great video as always! Thank you
Hamas accepted, Israel rejected. Dude. 😅
It's the Darth Vader quote from the Empire Strikes Back "I've altered the deal. Pray I don't alter any further."
There was no deal.
did hamas have post-oct 7 strategy?
Hamas declared a war of genocide against Israel, then proceeded to invade Israel to care out said genocide.
Hamas had no other plans outside their genocidal intentions; they clearly did not plan to win this war. Hamas just wanted to gain sympathy from leftist around the world to view them as the "victims" of this conflict.
Hamas is no victim.
Hamas committed themself to this genocidal war, they knew they could not win, and now, as they lose, they cry foul as if thos genocidal war they started is some basketball game.
Yes probably to use the hostages as leverage. What they didn't account for was Israel not caring whether the hostages are alive or dead.
Idk at this point i'd imagine they're desperate to try anything seeing as whatever Palestine does the result ends up being the same.
18 years in a giant prison camp thinking about it probably just left violence as the only thing that made sense.
maybe they wanted to lure IDF into gaza so they can have the advantage while fighting. IDF is fighting above ground while Hamas are operating underground in a place they know inside out. it's also possible that hamas is still making weapons during the war, because they don't seem to be running out of ammunition and are instead ramping up their attacks even after 7 months
Indeed. This is all just Netanyahu’s desperate gambit to stay in power by trying to regain support among the hard right by going way overboard.
stop scapegoating with your uninformed nonsense. the entire political establisdhment in israel on all sides supports the war. with or without netty the war will continue.
@@007kingifrit hypocrite
A man that values his own power more than human lives isnt a man, its just a evil husk of meat
You mean Jews don't mind being killed by Hamas, is that what you mean? Maybe you are saying that Jews should just get used to those rocket attacks and those Palestinian raids across the border to kill Jews, are you Jewish yourself? Do you mind if someone kills you because you are Jewish? Maybe you should try putting yourself in their shoes for once!
Sinusist have a clear goal laid out for everyone to see
Everyone out, all them in. And that’s when a religious leader will magically manifest for them to follow
Glad you're back.
well though out, non biased and informative thank you for not coloring the narrative and giving it to us straight
Even a week into this I could see that the IDF was satisfying the demands for an immediate response, rather than anything else. It was a strong, but largely chaotic "do something" response.
If there's no "plan" afterwards, it'll be bad for Palestinians and Israelis.
There is no plan afterwards because Israel didn't start this war, so therefore they had no plan on how to end it. The Palestinians posed a problem, the Israelis just assumed they would behave themselves and the two sides would live in peace, but Putin needed a distraction from his own war in Ukraine to get the World's attention off of him, and the Palestinians helpfully provided one by attacking Israel! I don't know why some people think these are two separate wars, is it purely coincidence that the Palestinians attacked during the Ukraine War just when Putin needed it? I think not!
Yes there is a plan, it involves no Gaza.
I like this plan
Just ‘innocent’ Israeli things
@@TheSpiritof76Did you parents leave you as a kid?
no hamas gaza for sure.
@@TheSpiritof76 A war criminal like you will of course like all evil
The OG narrator welcome back!
Very well analyzed!
hoooo, the comments gonna be SPICY
President Biden ordered a report to Congress to establish weather arms delivery are not violation of section 620I of the Foreign Assistance Act, and it had been issued on 12 May
Here are the conclusions:
From NSM-20 Report to Congress: "it is reasonable to assess that defense articles covered under NSM-20 have been used by Israeli security forces since October 7 in instances inconsistent with its IHL obligations or with established best practices for mitigating civilian harm."
In such circumstainces further deliveries of offensive weapons would entail conscious breaking of American law. No administration worker wants to take responsibility for that.
But, and the weapons that the US offered to Saudi Arabia when they were destroying Yemen? It wasn't against the law too?
This is all theater and politics. Other countries that have waged urban warfare did not behave inconsistently with IHL obligations? Give me a break.
@@Mhark127 I don't know the details, one thing I do know- if there was an report like this issued at the time, no American weapons would be sent to Saudi Arabia.
@@Mhark127 Yemenis were actively attacking Saudi territory. Try again.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🌐 7-Month Overview of Israel-Hamas Conflict and the Situation in Rafah*
- Description of the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, the duration of the fighting, and the focus on the city of Rafah as a military target.
- The IDF's retaliatory operations have lasted over 2,200 days, with Rafah becoming the next military target.
- Israel's actions risk further international alienation, and the situation in Rafah is dire with a significant population influx.
02:13 *🎖️ Israel's Military Operations in Rafah and the Importance of the Rafah Crossing*
- Details on the IDF's offensive in Rafah, the strategic importance of the Rafah Crossing, and the military significance of the area.
- Israel's 104th Brigade took control of the Rafah Crossing, securing a vital area previously used by Hamas for reinforcements.
- Hamas's presence and military operations in the area have led to casualties on the Israeli side, prompting the offensive.
03:33 *🛑 Prospects of a Ceasefire and Negotiation Efforts*
- Discussion of the potential for a ceasefire, prisoner exchanges, and the proposed de-escalation plan.
- Despite Hamas's acceptance of a ceasefire proposal, Israel rejected it, leading to the continuation of military operations.
- The US, Egypt, and Qatar have been involved in negotiations, but the failure to reach an agreement has resulted in a new Israeli offensive.
07:02 *🚫 International Response to the Israeli Offensive and the Humanitarian Concerns*
- The international community's reaction to the offensive, the humanitarian situation, and the implications for civilians in Rafah.
- The offensive has drawn criticism from the UN, EU, and individual countries, with concerns over violations of international law.
- The US has partially withheld arms supplies to Israel, reflecting growing domestic and international opposition to the military operation.
09:06 *🤝 Diplomatic Maneuvers and US-Israel Relations*
- The dynamic between the US and Israel, the American stance on the offensive, and the impact on their bilateral relations.
- The US has expressed opposition to a full-scale operation in Rafah, leading to a partial arms embargo.
- Despite tensions, the US continues to support Israel while urging restraint and a focus on negotiations.
12:30 *🛢️ Humanitarian Impact and the Closure of Crossings*
- The consequences of closing the Rafah and Kem Shalom crossings on the humanitarian situation in Gaza.
- Closure of the crossings exacerbates the dire humanitarian conditions, disrupting aid and fuel supplies.
- The UN has called for the immediate reopening of crossings to alleviate the suffering of the civilian population.
13:39 *🌍 The Role of Egypt and International Legal Challenges*
- Egypt's concerns regarding the military offensive and the potential legal ramifications for Israel.
- Egypt fears a mass migration of Palestinians and has joined a case against Israel at the International Court of Justice.
- International humanitarian law is cited as being violated by the Israeli offensive in Rafah.
14:20 🏛 Post-War Gaza: Strategic Planning and the Two-State Solution
- Discussion of Israel's long-term strategies for Gaza post-conflict and the challenges of reconciling these with international demands for a two-state solution.
- Israel's proposed plans for Gaza include indefinite control with civil administration by non-Hamas-affiliated Gazans and the establishment of more Israeli settlements.
- The international community, including the US and Arab states, has been pressing for a two-state solution, which current Israeli plans do not support.
16:42 🤝 Evolving Post-War Plans and International Involvement
- A new post-war plan suggests shared control of Gaza by Israel, Arab states, and the US, with a future referendum for Gazans to join the Palestinian Administration.
- This plan faces opposition from Netanyahu's radical allies and Arab states who are skeptical about its commitment to a two-state solution.
- The UAE has stated it will not participate in Gaza's reconstruction without a clear path to a two-state solution.
18:44 📊 Israeli Public Opinion and Political Landscape
- Analysis of Israeli public opinion regarding the creation of a Palestinian state and the political pressures facing Netanyahu's government.
- A majority of Israelis oppose the creation of a Palestinian state in exchange for a long-term ceasefire and other concessions.
- Netanyahu's government is under pressure from radical coalition partners and shifting public opinion against a two-state solution.
20:04 🌀 Regional Dynamics and the Impact on Palestinian Survival
- The broader geopolitical implications of the conflict, including Iran's and Hezbollah's reactions, and the dire living conditions for Palestinians.
- The ongoing conflict and lack of a feasible solution have regional consequences, with Iran and Hezbollah potentially gaining strength from Israel's actions.
- The humanitarian crisis in Gaza worsens, with more than 2 million Palestinians facing unacceptable living conditions and the threat of further military action.
21:13 🕊 Latest Developments and Military Operations in Rafah and Central Gaza
- Update on the military operations, the displacement of civilians, and the ongoing combat against Hamas.
- The IDF has intensified operations in Rafah and central Gaza, leading to the evacuation of hundreds of thousands of people.
Israel claims to have killed a significant number of Hamas fighters and vows to continue operations despite the high civilian toll and international outcry.
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Alright... so who is going to clean up all this mess?
Oh wow, the ammount of geopolitical experts in the comments is nuts !
Expected since it has " Israel " in the title.
What an honour to stand among such smart people.
The U.S does not negotiate for isreal
The United States supports Netanyahu who has no links to democracy or human rights. He is a dictator who uses war to remain as leader and war criminal with a focus on a One State solution.
They veto for them, correct.
The US has backed and backs Israel for geopolitical reasons. There's no morals involved. And AIPAC handsomely funds the election campaigns of US congress members on both sides. It's a good deal for Isreal because Congress votes billions of financial support for Israel. In a way the US is financing the illegal settlements and the wall that keeps Palestinians locked up. Most people realise that Israel is not the underdog in this story. And if you say that loud, Israel will call you antisemite.
The US decides anything Israel does. If Israel does something, they either been given permission or have been granted a certain amount of sovereignty in a particular field for a pre-specified amount of time.
@@Habib_Osman Hi, in my perception Israel does pretty much what it wants.
Israel’s strategy up to this point has been more ineffective than America’s disastrous failure in the war on terror.
Governments from Egypt to Lebanon, Jordan and Syria are not guaranteed to stay so neutral in the long term. As many have either dictatorships or divided politics.
With climate emergencies on top of other blows to regional stability conflicts may intensify. Israel may cease to be a useful partner to the US.
I tell you what, if the survival of the United States depended on us winning the Vietnam War, we would have won the Vietnam War! It would have been ugly with massive civilian causalities, but if our survival depended on it we would have done whatever was necessary, commit war crimes and whatever it took to defeat the enemy, that sort of war was the American Civil War, we burnt down cities to win that war so the South could no longer fight, and that is how we preserved the Union, now with the Vietnam War the stakes for us were not quite that high, so we just gave up, like we did also with Iraq and Afghanistan, those countries did not continue attacking us afterwards unlike the Palestinians do to Israel! You have to look at this war from the Israeli point of view, not that of a disinterested bystander like the United States. Americans grow tires of this war in the middle east, because they are not the ones being targeted and killed by the Palestinians. Americans have grown used to Jews being killed and they wonder why Jews can't just accept it as the "new normal", why do you think that is?
@@thomaskalbfus2005 I agree with your concerns. I am pointing out that the US is not the same state as Israel. Therefore our interest depends on a cost benefit assessment.
Also, we let south Vietnam fall despite constant attacks on their citizens. We left Afghanistan after years of them targeting our trooops. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, just that this isn’t so different, and that Israel can fight if they want. But the US is a separate country with separate interests.
Also my whole critique was originally about how Israel is committing to a strategy that normalizes the killing of their citizens. They’ve been following this strategy for decades and it hasn’t stopped attacks. Hamas is just the latest group, but with or without Hamas the attacks will continue if Israel doesn’t change their policy
The post-war strategy is quite obvious.
The most contentious geopolitical situation in our time and a reasonably unbiased report thank you video creator
No.
One thing I don't get : why don't Hamas release the hostages ?
Most hostages taken by civilians
a lot of things you don't get
I mean, they're still radical terrorists. Even if they are kinda in the right.
- That's their only leverage and no Israeli proposal has genuinely guaranteed an end to the conflict, so why would they give up their leverage only for the conflict to restart
- Ideologically they benefit from the war continuing. They wanted Israel to overreact because long term that strains relationships with its key allies, it has the potential to force political concessions, and they are driving recruitment and loyalty to the organization
- In that same way, it cements the organization as the sole legitimate representative for Palestinian liberation. Even if they're taking a beating, their political leadership is fully in tact, and the outrage against the PA which has done nothing but lose more land in the West Bank and cower to Israel is only growing.
Hostages can be traded in for other concessions during negotiations. Simply giving up those bargaining chips for nothing in return is not in the interest of Hamas
Interesting
Yes, interesting, like President Bush wandering about in the desert looking for weapons of mass destruction before they flew into the Twin Towers.
@@rh7163 This is a common misunderstanding, sure, they may have said that they had weapons of mass destruction, but Iraq had a nuclear program I believe, which, the US didn’t (because Saddam Hussein was escalating conflict in the Middle East)
THEIR STRATEGY IS SIMPLE, LAND GRAB & SELL IT
No gaza - no strategy is needed.
I strongly suggest Israel adopts their own form of governing without anything that links them to democracy or human rights. The ridiculous pretense of killing Palestinians while under the guise of democracy and human rights is blatantly ridiculous. President Biden has hitched himself and the United States to a walking dead man by the name of Netanyahu and all that comes with it.
Well, there is. You have to deal with the people somehow. You also have to deal with the increasing international isolation that Netanyahu is subjecting Israel to.
@@Yutani_Crayvenhonestly the result after this war would most likely be a Nakba 2.0 for gazans. Someone will stay of course but there is going to be a large displacement.
Stop saying prisoner exchange, this is families for terrorists exchange. Yahya Sinwar, current military leader of Hamas was released in such deal in 2011 when they managed to kidnap one Israeli.
Israeli apartheid state indiscriminately kidnapped thousands of palestinans.
@@blacksilver9542 source?
Prisoner exchange. Hamas look at the Israeli prisoner as bloodied hand considering the military enlistment.
Terrorists according to who?
To the colonizer?
Who is keeping 13 and 12 years old in prison for months without any trials?
Or who built concentration camps to detain people from gaza to torture and then killed?
October 7th changed the rules. No more Gaza. No reconstruction.
Still glad Hubert is back
Putin's Gronzy
Netanyahu's Gaza.
Kind of, but not really. Putin leveled the place, but then he found his cronies in the land and invested billions to rebuild it. Netanyahu has no such plans. He simultaneously has no plan for the people of Gaza, AND wants them gone.
@@Yutani_Crayven Correct. They'll rebuild when they can fill it with settlers, be they from New York, Tel-Aviv or Europe.
I see the Israelis renaming the land eventually.
1:35 Why or HOW does an IDF spokesperson for Arab media have a handle ID in Malayalam??
John Mearsheimer gave a good analysis about Israel's situation and plans for Gaza in his recent lecture on the "Centre for Independent Studies" channel.
oh, you mean the guy who thinks the war in ukraine is the fault of the west and not putin's wet dream? cant wait to hear what that idiot has to say wow
JM adjust his arguments to his feelings.
@@nkristianschmidt Like what?
@@hyhhy
Concerning Ukraine: Suffering does not matter. Realpolitik matters. Ukraine must give in. Russia does not have to pull out. Ukrainians are kinda Russians. The West are responsible.
Concerning Gaza: Suffering matters. Realpolitik does not matter. Hamas must not give in. Israel must pull out. Palestinians are not kinda Muslim Arabs. Egypt and Qatar have no responsibility.
Postware plan, no more October 7th activities from the black September crowd
Hey, that was the US' post war Afghanistan plan. Stop ripping off other peoples homework.
9/11 was a Mossad operation - to do regime changes in hostile ME countries
Same with Oct 7 operation - Netanyahu designed op.
@@muhammadadeel8639 wow. That's a new claim
@@neolithictransitrevolution427 False flags are as old as humanity. Pearl harbour etc
Islamic radicalism was purely a British and CIA invention to counter soviet communism, later utilized to weaken hostile Arab regimes. ISIS is through and through Mossad op. Hamas was also engineered to power by Netanyahu
Bin laden was a us ally in afghan soviet war
@@neolithictransitrevolution427 Its not just a claim anymore, there's plenty of evidence if one is willing to search
Is there a reason you refer to Israel as "Jerusalem", rather than as its capital of Tel Aviv?
Is New York City the capital of the United States? Can we just tell a country what city is their capitol? That seems ridiculous to me!
jerusalem is literally the internationally recognized capitol city of israel
you might not like it but thats reality, welcome aboard
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@@JaJDoo fasle
No Gaza is the strategy
He forgot to say that Hamas gave no garantee as to whether or not hostages would be alive. That's not included in the video
What I think is funny is that Israel actually thinks levelling Gaza will somehow reduce the amount of Hamas recruits and future attacks.
They actually don't care about hamas they want the land and to expel ALL citizens
where do they will be recruiting? if there will be no gaza and no tonnels?
It will. They already tried the strategy and it failed.
@@newwonderer So you think all 2 million citizens will be killed?
I'll ask another question. If your parents, neighbours, cousins, child or siblings were killed for just living in one of the levelled neighbourhoods, would you not sign up to fight back?
@@Eoin-B You asked the logical question these "Pro-Is" refuse to ask themselves. They think they have the "smart" solution to a conflict they care little about. Is bombed Gaza 4 times before only for Hms come stronger each time.
Its not prisoner exchanges! The hostages are innocent civilians! They are not in prison the are kidnapped!! On the other hand the palestinian prisoners do have blood on their hands.
Majority of them do not.
99% of Palestinian prisoners are held without trial
@@cobra8888 But of course they are Palestinians so they are expected to be violent, we have much higher standards for the Israelis though!
How about we hold both sides to the same standards for a change?
If Hamas starts a war, blame Hamas, don't say, "well of course they started a war, they are Hamas after all, the Israelis should just get used to it! If Israel retaliates we should halt all aid and form a trade embargo, as no Jew should be permitted to defend himself with deadly force, but for Palestinians they are savages anyway, so our expectations are not so high for them."
How many were IDF?
99.9% of the 10,000 Palestinian prisoners are under administrative detention without even a sham military trial.
Funny why dont the nations that want a state for the Palestinians just them a bit of land in each of there nations or do they not want the risk in their nations 🤔
John Merscheimer, argued on similar line in CIS event. Amazing video. Israel has no plans
First?
nice u beat me
I remember when they all were dancing and cheering on oct 7. Just dont come to me crying now, am eating chips and watching Everbody love Raymond
who were "they all?" DId you personally see every Gaza resident celebrating, or did you see what pro-Israeli media showed you? Same stores were told on 9/11 to stoke anti-Muslim feelings.
not first 😢
"This looks like a ploy to make Israel look like it refuses to reach an agreemtn" but Bibi.. you guys ARE unreasonable and refuse to agree.
Like most I was always in favor of the two states solution. But I cannot see how that should work. I mean we basically already had a two states solution. Israel left Gaza removed all Jewish settlers and they had their own state in Gaza for so many years. What did they do? They voted for Hamas and became a terror state. That doesn’t make me feel hopeful.
There is no solution. It is either war or ceasefire. Israel was imposed on the Palestinians by the military dominance of the west. How could there ever be a "just" solution? It's bullshit. There is none, it is a fight. You or me. Death or victory. The only question is if you believe the jews have a right to colonize Israel, if you do, you support Israel.
Israel is going to have a very tough time when other world powers rival the USA. We're not there yet.. but safe to say China isn't as concerned about the jewish plight.
Leaving Gaza was never Hamas endgame. Also, what's up with the election that happened a gazillion years ago being brought in every conversation? Do you think Israelis deserve 7/10 because "Israelis voted for a Far Right govn't"? No? Same thing?
Yeah i am sure china is real concerned about palenstine. Nobody really cares about them.
I feel sorry for you. The Middle East has been an important region for centuries. But because of the advent of modern technology, power, trade, and cultural relevance have been moving away from the Middle East for the past one hundred years. It truly breaks my heart to see the people of the Middle East lose everything that gave them importance. If you think China cares more about the Middle East and the Muslim plight than they do about the Jewish plight, than they do about the Southeast Asian plight, and than they do about the Indian plight, then you are mistaken. At the end of the day, and this is the truly sad fact, the Middle East is a barren wasteland with only oil as its saving grace. The people there are backward and incredibly suspicious of foreigners.
At the end of the day Habib, you are thinking the Chinese will save you and they will rescue the Middle East from the tyranny of the West from the tyranny of America from the tyranny of the jewish, but what they will do is they will occupy. They will conquer and they will enslave as every group who's moved into the Middle East. Does because, at the end of the day, the people in the Middle East are too insular for their own good. You want China? The people who are right now, killing more Muslims and destroying more mosques than Israel and America put together to be the Liberator and savior of the Muslim world. If that is not insanity then I do not know what is my friend.
TL;DR: The Middle East is an irrelevant place with modern shipping technology removing their ability to act as the middleman for East-West trade. Now, the focus is on technologies for energy production that are not related to oil, which is the only real substantial resource in the Middle East (unless you're in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but both of those are economically colonized by the Chinese). already.@Habib_Osman
I mean we've been killing each other over the place for over 2000 years. Is there really a solution?
There are dozens of muslim states and only one Israel.. the solution must be rational
ahistorical nonsense
@@user-bm9nn3jw3i hypocrite
The arab only there 1300 years...
Sure there is. And the current conflict is no more than 100 years old, so very solvable. The only party that can do it however is the US. They are the power that holds its hands under Israel - regardless of the atrocities and land stealing Israel has been doing since the 1950s. Palestinian "protests" to these crimes are to be expected, and like in all other areas of a civilized society considered simple self-defense. Israel has an explicit goal of genocide over [anyone] living on the lands they arbitrarily feel belongs to them - exactly the same mind-set the Russians have on Ukraine.
So while the US supports the attacked population in Ukraine, it supports the invading force in Gaza - while also being the sole reason Israel could ever survive in the region in the first place. It's ENTIRELY the fault of the US. The US could end the conflict in the middle east in a day, but due to internal politics and religious zealousy are unwilling to do so. But "all" it would take is to hold Israel responsible for their wrongdoings and a combination of returning Palestinian lands to the people that were expelled from them, to a minimum of the borders as they were when the oldest of the banished Palestinians lived there, likely around as the borders were in the early 1960s - but obviously could be considered on individual basis in all the location of the Israeli illegal settlements.
This is what happens when a country puts religion first. And curiously, it's exactly what the average American blames all Muslims for. Time to find some mirrors.
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If you look at whats called the "international community" it's hard to take what they say seriously.
The so called international community either doesn’t care at all about Palestinian or Israeli civilians, or want to see either nation erased from the map. Mostly they care about making more money
Agree
It rarely, if ever, speaks with one voice.
No group of more than one person speaks with one voice.
The point remains. Seven months after massive international support, Israel has somehow turned that into massive international criticism. That is astounding.
Deflect THAT.
@@kurtwicklund8901 The international support wasn't exactly massive. There is a degree of anti-israeli bias among the western left.
Ngl peak irony is when Egypt lectures Israel on human rights while being one of the reasons there's such a humanitarian catastrophe to begin with..
So called Arab brotherhood, smh
No, anyone can lecture Israel on human rights
@@esbenm6544 Nope. Israel can lecture Muslims on human rights tenfold.
@@SpaceMarine500 both? Both.
Well, tbf, the current military government is in charge because they kicked out the Muslim brotherhood, and they won't let Gazans in because they are worried it will add to their ongoing insurgency by the Muslim brotherhood in Sinia.
@@neolithictransitrevolution427 the reasons are known. However, imagine the outrage if Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova & Romania would've blocked their borders with Ukraine thereby preventing Ukrainians from seeking refuge. How outrageous would it seem? It's exactly the same situation.
A lot of Israeli bots in the comments here
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well if only they did not attack none of this would be happening
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Yes... But they wanted this to happen, they being Hamas and Iran.
You can't think of them like Westerners, every Gazan that dies is a martyr that gleefully goes to heaven to Hamas, the Hamas leadership has no real concern about civilian casualties. But those casualties buy huge amounts of international support, and have pushed undone decades of work by Israel for acceptance by her neighbors. And that has been a huge benefit to Iran, the sponsor of Hamas, who likely requested the intervention to stop an Israeli -saudi access, which means more money and arms for Hamas.
All of this has been a win to Hamas leadership. They have no regrets.
@@esbenm6544 go away bot, you post this on every comment , you don't even speak english or know what a hypocrite is
Well, if only Israel stopped their occupation and control of the entire Palestinian people. Imagine, how it would be like for one of the United States in the central area of the United States to be told, no airport, no trade, total control over all transportation and all things coming in and going out without exception. Try living under those conditions while being persecuted endlessly without an end date. Even Hong Kong was given an end date.
@@007kingifrit Because there are so many. And you're a prime example. Bereft of principles.
It's "Hamas" with a harsh "H", not "Kh", unless you wanna say it in Hebrew.
Crazy to see people care about this. I could think of I think literally a billion things in the universe that are more important.
@@Habib_Osman correct pronunciation is important. If you really wanna work with that logic, then we should all stop watching this video & just focus on our immediate lives.
6 sec about 7.10 massacre and declaration of war 22 min about the Israeli response 😒
yes they do send them all to Europe
The jews or arabs?
@@blacksilver9542 Wich ever side loses first
@@blacksilver9542 If we just see the last 100 we will know what group came from Europe and who should come back to it
Genocide isn’t self-defense.
were you saying this in octobor too or is it only genocide when you disagree?
@@JaJDoo oh yea. I’ve been saying this about Israel for a very long time.
I'm a distant observer, but I'm not ignorant to what's happening.
A two state solution might have been possible 20 years ago under the leadership of the time. With the rise of Hama's and the death of Arafat I think that hope died. Israel has no option but to secure control of Gaza.
I despise netanyahu but I'm still standing with Israel.
so you side with nazis and not the people being genocided,
@@reneellakvere7507 these days in my humble experience only actual Nazis try to label others with that title!.
I think you need to to go look in a mirror and take account of who you actually are !!!.
It's actually Hama's who seeks the genocide of all Jews and not the other way round. Who's the Nazis then ?.
Judea is not the homeland of Arabs, IE, Palestinians, but for Jews it has been for 3,000 years.
You're trying to rewrite history for the benefit of your own racism me thinks?.
@@max.fleming1045 its not palestinians that have displaced 1.4 million people and killed 15-20.000 children while engineering a manmade famine for the 2 million people who live in that area
@max.fleming1045 what kind of reactionary bullshit are you talking about? The ancestors of the Israelis used to live there 2000 years ago which makes it ok to ethnically cleanse the claimed land? Dude wtf. With that logic all kinds of genocidal wars where and are justified. If a country should have given land to the Jewish people for a Jewish state there is only one answer.
@@reneellakvere7507 Israel is defending itself. Gazans willingly took this risk when attacking Israel. Why would you expect not to defend themselves? UK, US and SSSR also refused to back down until Germany was completely obliterated.
14:12 Gaza Genocide Convention, is that an actual document?
Pause! Are you saying Jerusalem meaning israel?
He is referring to the Israeli government as Jerusalem because Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. It is the same way people refer to the US government as Washington and the Russian government as Moscow. Now if it is East Jerusalem you are taking issue with you can always acknowledge the West Jerusalem is indeed Israel and leave the issue of East Jerusalem as something to argue over in the future
Hamas really decided to fuck around and they sure as hell found out 🤣
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Profanity, doesn't provide any support for your post or your opinion although the United States didn't win the war in Afghanistan or Vietnam and they found that out as well.
By found out you mean kiling of 14,000 children? Sure a very sane thing to say
And now Israel's reputation is in tatters never to recover.
@@rh7163 dudes too slow to catch on to common phrases, not to mention who mentioned the US? lmao. Stay woke little fella i'm sure that will work out for you in the long run!
This can be over tomorrow if Egypt grants them asylum and citizenship. Its curious how they all want to blame Israel when the arab countries have the solution to end human suffering on their court.
So that Israel invades Egypt as an excuse to "self defense"? Do you think Egypt is stupid?
Egypt doesn't want Gazans in Egypt anymore than Israel wants them.
They've destabilized and been kicked out of every Muslim country they've been in.
Translation: "this can be over tomorrow if Israel is allowed to complete their ethnic cleansing of Gaza."
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@@ChrisFodor stop being a bigot. Not all Jews are Zionists. If you hate all Jews that's your problem, the people suffering in Gaza don't need more hate in this equation.
I guarantee you, that they have plan.
The plan is: stay in power and by keeping the war going.
cope
Source: trust me
@Ikbeneengeit source: they are most intelligent people on earth.
@@kundeleczek1 Whahahahahhahahahha
Good joke
I would assume there is definetly a Strategy - They just can't talk about it right now because the genocide and other war crime Trials are still running.
How the fuck is that a phyrric victory even remotely? Jesus Christ this conflict has such a strange way of deluding people
cope
Phyrric is you lose more than you gain from winning
Israel has certainly lost more than it will gain post war
In terms of military losses, rebuilding costs, diplomatic relationships, trade, etc
Other than that it is still a victory none the less
Because israel is loosing international support. If that happens they will be in very bad shape.
I think the variety and force of reactions has to do with how there's no right answers on any side here.
@@Bigboi-ge5llI think you'd agree that whatever support they lose will be short term; months or years rather than decades.
I agree with the original post Pyrrhic is probably not an appropriate adjective. Israel will likely be in roughly the same shape on the back side of this conflict whereas Hamas' condition is more of an open question.
This video falls far short of a thorough analysis. The minor changes by Hamas to the document are not that minor at all. Not mentioning the details and then claiming "Hamas accepted, Israel rejected" gives a false representation of the actual events.
I was also annoyed at the lazy writing. Or this could be worse, this could just be a hit piece for this CZcamsrs views instead of really getting to the core problems on both sides.
Which details are you questioning? What do you know that the channel does not?
Well, Israel tryed to be friends... that didn't worked and backfired big time...
By holding the people from Gaza in a prison? Weird way to make friends.
@@Habib_Osman see, you are lying and destorting reality...
@@GreatRetro Ever been encaged yourself?
@@GreatRetro how about I come and build a fence around your house and tell you when you can come and go, inspect all your mail, and maybe let you leave long enough to mow my lawn (which used to be yours?)
@@taxirob2248 Israel belong to Jews!!! They can do on that land what ever the F they want!!! Arabs on these lands are just an occupier force!!!
News colonies
I stand with civilization. I stand with Israel.
Israel? Civilization? 🤣🤣🤣
@@cobra8888 Yes, very much.
@@mesa9724 Nothing about them is civil. You need to do your homework. From stealing lands because “we were there and you don’t” to being racist to killing civilians left and right. Civil people don’t do kill that much people and claim “collateral damage”
@@cobra8888 Stealing or conquering lands, killing civilians and being racist have been done by civilized societies all the time.
I personally like Israel because they are an advanced economy, have the vitality needed to defend their nation from all sides and are the only developed nation able to keep their birth rates up!
@@mesa9724 you stand for settler colonialism in 2024. Not very civilized IMO.
Israel has has done it's utmost to satisfy and appease the Palestinians in the past, practically begging them to agree to a two states solution and to move on. the Arabs of Palestine do not want peace with Israel, they want peace without Israel. they say it out loud and today it is as clear as day to all Israelis.
Are you high or something?
Bro they killed 35000 people, 70% civilians. Like.. what do you want to talk about? It makes no sense to anyone in the world except for those living in 1. Israel and 2. the USA. That's it. That's all your support.
Yes that is why Israelis assassinated Rabin right? So called "peaceful" Israelis. Or why Israel still takes land and builds settlements defying legal and international law. So much for Israel "appeasing" the Palestinians.
You're seriously deranged. Israel has NEVER carried through on any two-state plan. They murdered their last PM who agreed to one.
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Genuine question: Why do you refer to the Israeli government as Jerusalem? I thought we refer to administrations by the name of the country's capital, isn't that Tel Aviv in this case?
Are you dense? Israel moved their capital to Jerusalem. That's part of the problem here. And yes, the US gov is sometimes referred to as "Washington" by media all over the world, including within the US.
@@taxirob2248 lol not sure what kind of damp dim basement were you raised in to have to start your comment with "are you dense?" but sure buddy, thanks for the info.
@@Noobsaucer not sure whose ass you have your head inside of to even ask that question in the first place, but you're welcome.
Where were all the "Palestinians" before 1967? Oh yeah---they were Egyptians and Jordanians back then.
MY BAD!
Well that simply is untrue.
Shimon Peres literally had a Palestinian passport, Golda Maere was a Palestinian refugee at some point so what you are saying is non sense
They were under Egyptian and Jordanian ocupation, is like saying that French were German or Philipinos were Japanese during WW2
@@KathyXie only the French in the north though. The French in the south were still just french collaborators
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@@hmada1222000 Those were British passports for "Mandatory Palestine," the territory the UK named in the tradition of what the Romans called it.
Sorry, this seems like a clear plan to me. The Gazan population supported Hamas, and the war will make them impoverished for years to come. The world doesn't care enough to replace Israeli occupation, so no third parties to the rescue. Eventually, petrostates will grow tired of paying for the reconstruction of Gaza just so that Iran can rearm them and and another round of conflict starts. Come fall, and the US administration change comes about, and Israel gets more support. Not a great plan, but what is a better one?
Just give them civil rights or a state?
@@kevChess Can't make them citizens without basically destroying it as a homeland for Jews. What is different about being a "state" and current situation? The arms embargo. Remove the arms embargo and you get even more missile launches into Israel. Jordan and Egypt are too smart to want them as citizens. Much problems, no benefits.
@@richdobbs6595 hypocrite
@@kevChessthey keep rejecting a two-state-solution
@@esbenm6544 Not an argument. What am I hypocritical about???
Have you ever considered that they do have a post war strategy but don't feel it's necessary to reveal to the whole world i sliding its enemies that strategy? Come on its not hard to imagine. Why would they reveal its post war strat?
maybe to get SUPPORT from the international community that supplies them with everything necessary to defend themselves? That's kind of a big deal I would think.
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That is the problem, that no one knows how to face the day after the war. I have always thought that the best solution is that of the two States (Israel 🇮🇱 and Palestine 🇵🇸) with mutual recognition and the other Arab countries and with security guarantees for both. Although it is true that right now it is impossible to achieve this objective, since the Israeli Government does not want to talk about it. By the way, here in Spain 🇪🇸 at the end of May, I believe that the recognition of the Palestinian State will occur, in an attempt to facilitate said two-state solution.
It's not just the Israeli government, but mainly the Palestinian side which is rejectionist as well. 70%+ of Palestinians approve of 7.10, the PA is also very hesitant distancing itself from Hamas's acts - it didn't issue clear condemnations, it took them a lot of time to do so, some of the PA officials like Jibreel Rajoub downright approve of 7.10. They also continue the controversial pay for slay policy. Therefore Spain's move - supporting the PA, can be seen as a reward for terrorism.
A two-state-solution has been rejected again and again by the Arabs. They don't want their own state, they want to exterminate Israel.
@@gesuntight liar
I'm in agreement with both you guys ☺️
@@amnont8724 terrorism in the cause of liberation is a different thing than terrorism in the cause of tyranny. Unfortunately the people see it one way while the religious kooks like Hamas see it in another. And the way that opinion poll questions are worded can create some utterly bogus results. I won't accept any polls from Western sources any more than I accept the opinion polls or referendum results posted by Russia from inside occupied Ukraine territory.
Gaza is likely to be annexed, rebuilt, and settled with Israeli citizens. The Palestinians will be moved into the Sinai.
nonsense
Annexed & settled by Israelis isn't likely. Only the Israeli far right is in favor of it, and it's also not a practical move, as Israel chose to leave Gaza in 2005.
@@esbenm6544that is what Israel wants
@@trillionbones89 They want to commit all kinds of crimes against international law. This is just another. But this one requires other countries to be complicit in their crimes.
Why the Sinai? Why not deport the Arab colonizers back to Mecca where they came from?
I wonder if there are any survivors of Warsaw 1943 still living in Israel? I would love to hear their thoughts on the most recent pogrom unfolding in Gaza.
They would obviously be indoctrinated to their core. Imagine living through 50+ years of daily hardcore indoctrination.. they could make you believe you're a helicopter dragon if they wanted to.
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We need a UN Mandate over both Palestinian regions, with a coalition council of Saudi, Egypt, and Jordan (and potentially UAE and Turkey) in charge, and a local Palestinian police force under their Command, and a small IDF rapid reaction force also acting as peace keepers under the councils command.
We obviously can't have local rule, Hamas is an example of the danger, and the population is widely radicalized for understandable reason. We obviously can't allow Arab military control of the region, as Israel would never allow it. And we obviously can't have Israel in control. This allows accomodation of all.
The mandate should last 20 years, with an off road map allowing local elections for a continuation of mandate, single Palestinian state, two seperate Palestinian states (and a second election for Gaza if it chose unification and West Bank chose to go alone, for example), an option for West Bank to join Jordan, and Gaza to join Egypt, or either to join Israel. That provides skin in the game for all members to aim for successful development.
Syria, Iraq, Morocco, Lebanon, Kuwait, and Qatar should also be in an advisory role, with potential for the UN to swap them in if a state in the council sees a government direction not amenable. And Israel should be allowed certain veto rights that can be over ridden with UN general vote to address security concerns.
we had a UN mandate in 1947, the arabs rejected it and attacked.....as they are doing now
@@007kingifrit times are very different. For one thing, several Arab states recognize Israel (as would any state in the governing council have to be required to). And unlike the 1940s, most of those Arab countries have seen their own Jewish populations leave to Israel, and I truely don't believe they want to take action that would lead to their return. Israel allowed these countries to deal with their own "Jew problems" without taking action.
Also, unlike the previous UN mandate, this would be under an Arab controlled coalition.
Or. The Arab colonizers could go back to Mecca where they came from and leave the indigenous Israelis alone in their native land of Israel.
@@007kingifrit liar
@@esbenm6544 He is telling the truth. Shut up.
the ceasefire will not happen without the hostages being released....stay strong Israel 🇮🇱
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I AM FIRST DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYONE ELSE
@@musicmatters4357 I AM A GROWN MAN AND I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED BY LITTLE BOYS
@@musicmatters4357 YOUR JUST A ROBOT SENT FROM RUSSIA 🇷🇺
the strategy is more settlements my dear Westerner
Settlements filled with westerners from a Brooklyn me thinks