The Brutal Lies of Shia LaBeouf
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As someone who grew up with addiction and abuse, it's very hard to balance the stories of the good and the bad which is why people may think Shia is a liar. One day you will be talking about how all of the money from Christmas, birthdays, etc was taken to buy pills and the next week you're talking about how your parents would take you on a monthly shopping spree and you remember buying the Nintendo DS and Nintendogs when it came out. People think that when you say you had an abusive childhood that means you have no happy memories and if you had any kind of kind of happy memories than you're lying about the abuse.
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Exactly, these kinds of Love Bombing moments are common in abusive childhoods.
Prolly the most insightful thing i read all day, well said and very true
Very accurate.
1000%
Shia was lying when he said his Dad hit him once only. A lot of people downplay what their parents did to them.
yeah I think so too just off of vibes alone
Half of them would never understand the pain that some people have lived through and those same people are the same ones who judge others 😂 not saying Shia is justified of course
thats soo true
It takes a lot for us to even admit this to ourselves. Because no one WANTS to be a victim, or feel victimized. For me, I started being abused about the age of 10 with physical, s*xual and verbal abuse lasting until I was big enough to fight back somewhere between 15 and 16. But I was so damaged that my brain actually erased most of this. I have large chunks of my memory growing up that is just blank. And the few memories I did recover was enough for me to decide I'd prefer to not dig any further. Because there's obviously enough horror in my past that the only way I could protect myself is suppressing large chunks of my early life. To this day I've never really gone in specifics, and often do my best to avoid thinking about it at all. Its truly hard to come to terms with the people you're supposed to trust and rely on as a kid breaking that in serious ways.
@@NeiasaurusCreations I'd argue some do enjoy being the victim aha, fine fluctuating balance of both in the world
I worked with Shia for 6 months on a film still in production. Can not stand his personality…however, I have never worked with an actor or actress with his work ethic. Not even close. His dedication to his role, almost always staying on set for the entire day, not running off to his trailer every time his role was done but being there encouraging everyone else, pushing everyone on long days, just his love for acting in general, was such a huge contrast to my experiences with most a-listers. I don’t like him, but sure have respect for him.
@@Horsemanray dont pull the tooth put a push up is good enough
So why didn't you like him
150% bot account. look at the username.
@@sammoony9687hainaaa, and it's only 5 month old
Stupid bot account.
I grew up rough, and it lead to alcohol abuse, and I am fucking LUCKY that nothing serious happened because of it. It took years to get my life straight. These things happen, they can happen to anyone.
Right on man! I've been thru similar and it takes a while till your ready
Thank goodness we got out.
I grew up with a pedophile step father, a dad that abandoned me, and a bipolar self medicated mother. I got my teeth knocked out by a man at a bar, because I was an angry drunk.
I'm lucky to still be alive.
This was a wild ride, hope he can turn it around. I’ve been a fan since even stevens and to see where his life went always made me sad.
His part as Louis was a huge part of our childhood. I still go back and watch the show and movie so.etimes
misdemenor criminal tresspass aint shit. $200 fine. IF you dont get one as a young man, youre doing it wrong :P
For real. I liked the Evens Stevens movie, where they’re stuck on that island, lol. Holes was great too
He was such a crazy and funny character in even Steven. Special guy he is
@@scorch4299 ummm... okay? I guess that makes all of his other issues are irrelevant then... somehow.
As a big fan of Shia’s work and especially of FKA twigs’ work, it was devastating to hear her allegations against Shia, and it hurt even more when he admitted wrongdoing.
why does accountability hurt more
I think she embellished a bit
@@krampusiscomingtotown I know right. He seems like a really troubled dude who is trying to learn and be better. What he did was completely out of line and just wrong but if you don't give him an opportunity to change then he'll continue being that person. I hope he can be better himself
@@krampusiscomingtotown They mean it hurt to know it was 100%(?) true.
Someone telling the [alleged] truth about it is not common, so it’s shocking to hear. I also was shocked he admitted to it.
@@stefanharris659 Yes I give him that and I am sure the guy above me saying how it hurt when he admitted it knows that too but ultimately doesn't erase the damage he has done. It's not even up to us too forgive him it is up too the people he has hurt. If he says he will work on it and actually becomes better as a person, good on him he will not have to do what he had done again.
Shia is manic, many people like him are sensitive and aggressive simultaneously. There is a genuine artistic consept to him. I hopehe finds order in his head and . I wish him happiness . I think he is amazing.
He’s a woman beater.. do better
As a child that grew up in an abusive situation there were many good days but the bad far outweighed the good you experienced . You become a great actor and make up things to cover the pain and fear you have….
As a son and a dad, I find this story sad from all angles.
Allen....funny seeing you here.
As a man, and a Boy and a son and a grandson and a son of a man and dad from a son of a man dad i find this confusing
calling yourself a son is crazy
this is what happens when you have children.. the second you do, it's inevitably child abuse.
It’s lies , so sad
My family was loving and abusive. I don't think it was that bad until I'm telling a story and everyone gets that WTF look on their face and says that's not ok man. A fucked up childhood distorts what is a normal loving relationship. So he might not be lying he more than likely just has a distorted view of what's normal and loving!
The way I’ve always seen it is someone had it worse than me & im alive. My dad would beat the breaks off my brothers & I for the most trivial things but all I do is look forward. We were always clothed & fed. Not saying it was right but it wasn’t as bad as a lot of others went through.
Yup I know that look well
It's a problem in all cases of abuse, trying to illuminate it is so difficult when the underlying mental problems that create this dynamic are invisible to the public consciousness. Some pretend nothing ever happened, some pretend nothing good occurred. But both within and without nobody understands what the situation actually is.
This and also the fact that all children want to be loved by their parents, which makes them surspress or down play a lot of the traumatic events. I think for humans it is worse to be not loved by their parents than to be mistreated by them.
OMG That's me! I can relate to this so much!
I admire Shia's upfront honesty. Unlike others, he doesn't make you expose his flaws-he owns them. Connecting with him feels easy; it's like saying, 'This is me-can we be friends?' Shia's openness resonates with me, and while I have family and friends who share that authenticity, Shia takes it to the next level.
Idk, my interpretation is that even with how bad I feel for him and his horrible experiences, the fact that he claims to be lying about his father's abuse is so strange and makes it hard to trust him at all.
@@TracksWithDax I mean his father was a seggs offender that's all that needs to be said
who knows what Shia could be hiding from us
To be fair, most people would prefer to not face consequences for their actions. He was only brave enough to voice it. That's not a bad thing
As a recovered addict I can relate to much of this besides my dad “not” abusing me. He did, a lot. He was my own personal devil I lived with, that would beat me just for being around. Then buy me something to make up for it. I spent 15 years on drugs. I’m clean now 3 years and have a 2 year old daughter. The cycle ends with me!
I can't imagine. King behaviors, man. You go!
you dropped this king 👑
I can relate, respect to you friend!
Congrats bro
Congrats dude, for real
Shia is one of those characters that makes you realize the importance of good mental health. For our generation, I guess this dude became an example of what NOT to be.
So many are just like him tho, the difference is that they’re not famous.
@@mika9883 that is so true, a lot of us have become forgotten and slipped through the cracks
you just described like 75% of Disney child stars
@@MastrBaitr Well at least Olivia made it out alright, I still bump that Sour joint at the crib
I'm sort of amazed people never got the sense he was mentally unstable? Every roll I've seen him "act" in, well it was apparent to me!
It's always good to be reminded by how much of a bubble you are in when people look at performance art (which is a lot of what Shia does with his various non-cinema related projects) and interpret it as being off-kilter rather than artistry delving into deeper topics inside oneself.
A lot of performance art seems weird, especially the kind of stuff Shia has clearly been inspired by, which is the generation in which people like Marina Abramovic or Yoko Ono were active.
His "I am not famous anymore" piece for example is very clearly a nod to Abramovic's "The Artist is Present".
His appearance in Rob Cantor's "Shia Labeouf" is also a citation of another great work from a bygone era: Citizen Kane.
More than anything else, I think it's important to realize that just because you are famous and successful, doesn't mean your interests have to lie in making blockbusters. The art film and indie scene often offers many more opportunities to delve into deeper, more disturbing and more experimental topics than mainstream cinema.
I won't talk about Shia Labeouf as a person. I'm not far enough into this topic to make a qualified statement.
But as an artist, he is very clearly well-read and highly educated and many of his projects appear to have a lot of thought behind them. I imagine this appears strange to a lot of people because performance art is usually not in the mainstream these days but with someone like Labeouf, you have a highly successful and high profile mainstream actor doing a lot of work in a field that many people do not understand, inspired by people they do not know. (I'm not saying this is a bad thing. This post is merely meant as a sort of explanation for the more artistic side of his life and give hints as to where people can look up more if they are interested).
So he's just copying other people?
@@49er16 no? Taking inspiration from others and reframing it for your own purposes is like 90% of art. Copying would be taking something someone else made, making barely any changes to it and then claiming you came up with the idea in the first place.
90% of art is NOT taking inspiration form others and using it for yourself. That is an absurd opinion. @@Salted_Fysh
@@49er16 is it? How so? Every artist who has received formal education in art has looked at and learned various styles used by artists that came before them. They have spent countless hours mimicking or studying these styles to get a good feel for them before eventually arriving at their own and when each generation this source of passed on knowledge has only increased and been refined further.
The subject of many art pieces are collated from various sources that represent the accumulated knowledge and experience of the artist. Quotation and inspiration is just one of the various methods to express this and to show respect to those who have tread the path before.
Pretending to be original and unique in everything you do is blatant and disrespectful plagiarism at worst and at best arrogance borne from ignorance/naivety.
Another great video. I cant believe I just found this channel.
You can just see pain in his eyes.. hope he fights through all his demons and heals 🙏🏽
Facts. Darkness within those eyes.
Stop talking about demons like they're a psychological phenomenon instead of what they are the children of the watchers read 1 Enoch and stop breaking God's laws.
So you can just forgive him for abusing several women and driving around killing stray dogs for fun. Some people are sick for supporting that utter dog shit of a human being after everything came out about him, and you sir are one of them
@@revolutionsendtimeschurch it's both dude
Shaia backpedaling on his dad’s abuse sounds so much like me. No one loves me more than my mom, and no one has hurt me more. When my mom is good, she’s amazing. She’s generous, funny, charismatic, and sweet. When she’s bad, she’s vindictive and somehow knows exactly how to make you feel like you’d being doing the world a favor if you killed yourself. The way Shaia talks about his abusive dad sounds like my bad mom. The way he talks about his loving dad sounds like my good mom. And Shaia is the same, when he’s good he’s the most interesting guy in the room, and when he’s bad he’s threatening to drive off the road if you don’t say I love you. It’s heartbreaking. Abuse wouldn’t be hard if it were simple. I hope Shaia keeps moving forward and finds a way to reconcile that he has two dads, but he doesn’t have to be two Shaias.
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What an amazing, insightful comment! As someone who was raised by an alcoholic single mom, I recognize every single thing you said here. It’s only been even more complicated by the fact that she quit drinking right around the time her first grandchild was born (my oldest) and has become the beloved Nana for all four of my and my sister’s kids. I’ve talked to my kids some about how she used to be and some of the things that I went through as a child, and they do believe me, but they can’t ever possibly understand what it was like for me or my mother during those times.
Growing up, I was reckless, unreliable, aimless, and self-destructive. I was also responsible, loyal, caring, driven, and a straight-A student. The adults in my life saw the latter and wanted to help me, but they were all eventually scared off by the former. And unless you grow up in a similar kind of chaos to what you, Shia, and I did, it can be nearly impossible to know how to handle people like us. That’s why so many kids who grow up in abusive homes become adults who repeat the same patterns with the people in their lives-because not only do our parents fail us, but so do the other adults in our lives when they just don’t know what to do with us. I made lots of mistakes, lost out on a lot of opportunities that could’ve made my life a whole lot better, and was forced to take accountability and sometimes punishment for many of my actions.
All of those things were just stepping stones for me, little growths and improvements here and there that helped me begin to build a "normal" life for myself. But none of it could compare to having my first kid. That changed everything for me in an instant. But I had to MAKE THE CHOICE to leave all that bad stuff behind EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. It wasn’t easy, and I had to do mostly all of it by myself, but the one thing that kept me going was my desire to not do to my kid(s) what was done to me, because I loved them more than I loved myself. My own mom wasn’t capable of loving anyone when I was a kid-I don’t think she was capable of even loving herself then. She had never been shown love when SHE was a kid, and had gone through her own heartbreaks and abuse, so I don’t hold anything against her now from my childhood. And as strange as it might sound to some, even with a bad as things were for me, I still credit her just being there no matter what with why I was able to know what it meant to love-even if I didn’t always love myself.
I have always adored Shia, and not just because of his undeniable talent. I have always seen in him the same things I see in myself, always knew exactly where he was coming from, and always had an immense amount of empathy for him. I was always rooting for him, and was equally as thrilled by his successes as I was devastated by his failures. It physically pained me to see him repeating the same patterns of abuse on other human beings that had been inflicted on him, and I was scared for him that he would let that part of him win in the end-because sadly, that is most often the reality for victims of childhood abuse. And I am rooting for him even harder now that he has a child of his own that he has been able to shut down the Shia that hurts in favor of the Shia that just loves. Like you said, just because his own father was two different people to him growing up, doesn’t mean Shia has to be the same now.
My mother is very similar. Too damn relatable, it hurts. That "bipolar" mental illness or whatever label it's renamed to, as well as the legal drugs she takes to stabilize her (which don't work), has taken a toll on me and my family. When my mom's seemingly "normal", it's nice and I almost forget how mentally unstable she is because I desperately want to forget. I want to believe she'll change and everything will be fine. But whenever she unexpectedly lashes out for whatever reason (or none whatsoever), it's confusing/traumatizing. One moment you'll be having a harmless conversation with her, but in the next breath she'll say something like, "I wish I had aborted you." What the hell? Growing up with a parent like that, it messes with your head. I didn't know about Shia's upbringing. Now, however, it clicks...
An a recovering alcoholic and who is also a father I actually understand this man. The real recovery starts when you start being honest with yourself. The real recovery starts when you sober up.
New to your channel. Thank you for reminder us to hydrate LOL. I love it!
Jon Bernthal had Shia on his podcast late last year; really emotionally charged & powerful exchange between the two of them. I recommend everyone watch it. It’s a touching example of how someone can find forgiveness & redemption even after years of addiction.
He lied that entire podcast you airhead
Both of them seems like shady characters. Jon stories about his time in russia sound fake as hell. No wonder why they are best friends.
@@markekondrat9614 watch the episode. Regardless of your opinion of them as people it’s a pretty raw conversation
Can I please have your Ig?
@@iAnon666 Of course it is raw, emotional and intense. They are actors and there is a camera in front of them. I meet my share of bullshiters in my life. I'm not saying that they are lying but anything they say I'll take with grain of salt.
Let's never forget, the guy is a world class actor -- everytime he gets in front of a camera and "wins back" the public with these vague apologies, never forget, he is acting.
Thank you let's see if he can stay out of trouble for a few years before we congratulate him on his life!👍
I keep saying this to people, why do they believe anything these people say? They literally lie for a living!
I mean it’s pretty sad how damning you speak of him. Is it not possible that perhaps each time he apologises he’s trying to better himself but he just keeps fucking up? Just like achieving something takes tonnes of failures and re attempts, so does bettering oneself. Doesn’t mean you’re always acting.
@@sabir1208 You do understand the difference between acting and lying ? Acting is impersonating a character and everybody is in on it.
Lying has the explicit intent of obfuscating wrongdoings or giving someone wrongful information without them knowing.
It's two very VERY different things. Just because somebody can act, it doesn't mean they lie more or less than anybody else.
Even Brando the actor every male actor wants to be like said actors are nothing special we are paid, liars.
This guy brought me many laughters during hard years in my life ❤️ I love him ❤️
I’ll never stop enjoying how Shia talks quick sort of but he is just enjoyable. That look on his face with the mouth open and just blank look. Amazing
Shia is a phenomenal actor the Transformers movies really went downhill quick after he left
I agree - lookup Shia's Transformers "Nonononono!" compilations.
I use to love getting baked and watching even Steven's
Nothing about Transformers is 'phenomonal'
@@ruthaderginsburg9506 your opinion 💀
Yeah and I'm the president of Denmark.
For Shia to have called all the agencies himself as a child, so much respect for that!
Loving your videos man. I avoided them because they seemed too long but now that I've watched a couple, I'm hooked. 🤣
20 minutes too long 😂😂😂
I dig Shia. I love all of his work. I accept him as a flawed human being. His speech about holding on to his delusions and avoiding accountability is a reason for me to appreciate him more. Nobody is perfect. We make mistakes. We harm ourselves and others in the process. Could he have made better choices and probably should commit to making better choices in the future? Absolutely, and I hope he does. But I won't shun Shia. I recognize a kindred spirit and I have hope for the both of us.
You can tell he’s a passionate guy with a lot of anger and a dark past. I’ve always rooted for him since even Stevens days hope he can stay in that peaceful place
Hopefully he learn to keep his hands to himself to
Don't you learn that in kindergarten?
From what I’m seeing now it was him and what I’m hearing he is trying to be a better person, but people are picking on him and criticizing him like why is he lying? Blah blah one thing no one is what he’s really going through and there’s so many celebrities ever killed them, selves or died of overdose were because of that bullying in the media and people know Aaron Carter look good having him you know it’s hard to get better when you have people criticizing you it feels like and I’m sure they probably feel like you know people reading from the fail anyway so I can’t imagine how hard it might be, but from what I’ve heard shadow about trying to get better
@@mommyissue why are you going on about
Yea. I think hes doing fine.. He just been blacklisted so only independent flims if that.
The Actual Cannibal thing was hilarious. The animated version existed, and none of us knew if Shia even knew about it. People assumed he'd ignore it or be pissed. Then the live theatre version dropped and Shia slow clapping at the end shocked us and made us laugh even more. It was a great response on Shia's part, genuinely funny and tongue in cheek for him as he knew people already thought he was a freak.
Excellent video recap
I think the important thing is that Shia Labeouf is just a regular dude that we all know, and many of us are. He’s not a scripted, fake persona that many actors put out. He’s just a regular guy who hustled and actually became famous.
He could’ve continued making millions with the transformers franchise and other film franchises he would’ve starred in, but he didn’t. Instead he chose to follow his passions and do what brings him happiness, whether that’s artistic movies, comedy projects, or memes.
I think this is mainly because he doesn’t come from a typical upper middle class or wealthy suburban lifestyle that most actors come from. Again, he’s just a regular dude from the block. I hope he doesn’t give in to the robotic, scripted, fake Hollywood persona that many other actors have adopted.
Having said that, he needs to address his erratic and impulsive behavior. He needs to temper that sh*t because, even as he admits, he hurts other people. Now obviously, people who’ve been abused as kids will give that energy back to people they interact with, but that doesn’t excuse him hurting others.
I don’t think he lied about the whole thing with his dad. Didn’t he say that his dad called after seeing the movie and told him that the dad had done a lot for him as a child? I think he just reflected on it and felt guilty that he had made it so known worldwide about his family and their trauma. That’s like growing up dirt poor and sad and then looking back and saying “Okay it wasn’t *so* bad if I didn’t have things I needed or food sometimes, I had a roof over my head.”
This. People who suffer abuse often defend their abusers, even after the fact.
So he admitted it was bad and they decided to take it back? Isn’t that totally backward to what yo are saying ppl usually do? Lmfao ppl usually look bad and blame themself, they don’t first blame everything unless they lied.
I agree dude is def troubled and has SOME type of personality disorder/mental illness‼That didn’t just come up out of a hat. SOMETHING is broken with this dude.@@rars0n
Or he grew up like the person who he hated to become like his father. He doesn't want his daughter to hate him like how he hated his father. He knew he wronged his first wife and realized that his daughter is growing up being estranged from him and he does not want her daughter to see the crazy monster he has become. I hope he really wants to make amends with all the wrong things he has done with his life.
Good chance he lied about his Dad calling him. Sounds like his guilt was getting to him.
This was SUPER well made, I knew about his dad being abusive but those other details … wow. PLUS his moms incident 😳 it’s no surprise he was traumatized & clearly never healed from it. Not condoning the abuse he’s inflicted on others, I truly hope he’s able to get help and heal.
If you watched the full doc, he admits that he lied about his dad's behavior during his childhood and that it was completely fabricated. He said his dad spanked him one time to stop him from smoking a cigarette and admits that was the worst of it.
I dated a girl in high-school whose 11 year old brother heard her experience that. Their mom had BPD, dad was an alcoholic. Seemed to be both loving parents but you know those things come with complications for a kid. He spent time in and out of the mental ward, got into trouble for stuff like drugs and having razors in school. Me and that girl broke up after a few years but I'm from a country place so unless you move away you never really completely stay out of the loop on people's drama. When he would have been like 19-20, he was suspected of sh**ting up some guy's car, and only months or maybe a year later he got arrested for breaking into someone's house with two other people, and the homeowner ended up dying. Eventually came out he was the sh**ter. I think he's doing 60 years right now. I always said that kid was nuts and he'd k*ll someone one day, and even though I empathized with what he must have felt when that happened to his sister, I used to tell her all the time the family would be better off without him because he was just trouble. I regret that. Too young to really understand I guess. Point is, I imagine even if that mom thing is the only true part of his struggle, that can be enough. Just knowing you couldn't protect someone who needed you.
@Jalen Henderson That could be, but personally idk. If you read my book above (free on kindle) the person I've known who was most messed up went through the same thing. Sometimes people who came up awful will lie about it too, like say it wasn't bad. For different reasons. I'm not inclined to believe his convicted SO dad, or either of his parents, who let do stand up when he was 10 and open shows with "Hey mfs" and ended up splitting up, gave him the best life given how he turned out.
The mom incident can't be glossed over. There's a reason he brings up his Dad but never that ... That probably affects him more than anything else
"I n C i D e N t😳" Jesus fucking Christ
So nice to see the respect for his acting and his recovery!! I’m glad I’m not alone in these feelings. I get why some don’t like him, but the respect remains.
Thanks to all for a little restoration of faith in the online world ❤
I kind of feel for Shia in this situation.
The problem with damaging parenting is that, usually, the parents believe they're doing the right thing. An abusive parent may be trying their hardest to do what is right, and fail.
My parents made tremendous mistakes during my upbringing, but only because they genuinely thought they were doing what was best for me. They impacted me very negatively, but they're not bad people at all, and they themselves made great sacrifices to make those bad decisions.
There's a difference between malice and not knowing any better.
Now, my parents apologized and put in a lot of effort to be better, which is probably the main reason I can forgive them.
But if they hadn't... I don't know. I really don't.
Shia's dad may have been loving and abusive at the same time, and dealing with that is really, really hard.
I think a lot of people don't realize that not all abusive parents are selfish people whose child is completely accidental. Many are regular people trying to get by but get flipped over by their circumstances (poverty, addiction, unemployment etc.). In their mind, what they are doing is best for them and their children, which includes beating them up or ransoming their pocket change for substance. Once they realize their wrongdoing, they try to overcompensate by lovebombing (buying expensive gifts or taking them to trips) but never really completely address the situation so the cycle continues
I can relate with every single thing you said so heavily except my parents haven't apologised, acknowledged any wrongdoing, or made any real attempts at being better. And I can say that as of now, I definitely can't forgive them. While I understand the extremely complicated reasons behind why my parents are the way they are, and know that the abuse I grew up with was legitimately just purely a product of not knowing better, at this point with me being an adult and talking about them about it all they are now simply *choosing* not to know or do better, to the point they still laugh and mock me if I talk about the fact that beating a cowering, overstimulated autistic child to the point I'd regularly experience sensory overloads because of all the pent up stress, again as a child, was in fact abusive.
idk, my emotions are too mixed and complicated and at the same time I feel bad and as if I'm ungrateful for continuing to be angry at them because of the consequences my upbringing has had on the kind of person I've become and the shit I'll need to work through just to be normal..
Ditto to all of you. My folks are truly kind and loving people... Yet they raised me in a cult, my mom was physically and mentally abusive (she was an abuse survivor herself, and I believe has some real mental trauma from that). She drives me nuts most times. My dad is great, but mom has manipulated him over the years as well. But I love my time with my dad. I struggle with my time with my mom, and the only reason I give her time is because she's apologized so many times. I can tell she means it.
@jasonhaiad I haven't gone through something like that, but for some advice, I would tell you "if the people around you are the problem, then they are the problem", if you're not trying to interfere with someone's life, and just trying to improve for your self, then there's no reason to look down on your self, people around you could be a problem just as much as you could be a problem for the people around you, it's never a one sided story, but if your story is being affected by someone else's, you need to get away, you can try to help, but if they don't want it, they don't, you can only really look after your self.
@@jasonhaiad You are not ''bad'' or ungrateful for feeling the way you feel or being hurt by abuse you experienced. It's hard to ''chase away'' feelings of guilt, I understand, but you don't have to beat yourself up over the way you feel❤
As a recovering addict it makes sense that he would be a compulsive liar, it’s very common tbh. It’s also interesting to me that he wrote that story placing all the blame on his dad when he was in detox. If it was court ordered and not voluntary then that’s a textbook move tbh
It's always court ordered. People with Shia's ego, would NEVER, unless suggested by a lawyer, check themselves for anything, let alone rehab and then actually complete it voluntary. Yeah right,this kid has never finished anything he didn't wanna do. Matterof fact, he never did anything he didn't want to do.
@@caiusmadison2996 You are partially correct in that this happens most of the time, and can happen repeatedly in an addict’s life without ever voluntarily going (and often dying or becoming institutionalised as a result). But it’s incorrect to say that it never happens voluntarily. Often when an addict is actually able to get sober it was due to voluntarily seeking help after hitting a true bottom (and not being forced), if it never happened we would have far less recovering addicts in the world. Shia’s (and other famous people’s) status and life experience make it much harder to bottom out making it harder to reach the point necessary, but it’s absolutely possible and does occur.
Hope he never come back to the spot light it'll probably make everything worst
@@caiusmadison2996 Do you just go around spreading your bitterness wrapped up as "in my day" nostalgia, in fact I know you do I've just seen your comments. In my day social vampires like you would just sit at home curtain twitching and complaining about immigration, I blame the internet.
Careful everyone...
Not all addicts are liars.
Watched love his work
This was fantastic.
My uncle lived next to his father back in the Even Steven days. After I had seen Transformers, and told my uncle that I loved Shia (I was like 8 at the time) and that I would love to meet him one time. He told me that he lived next to him, but that not a lot of good energy was around that house, and that he always heard yelling and screaming coming from the house. I was lucky enough to see him come out of that house once- I said hi, he said hi, and he left. I always kind of thought that he was an asshole or had mental health issues, but I just genuinely feel bad for him now that I know how he was terribly neglected and abused by his parents.
People don’t understand how detrimental having a traumatic experience is when you are under 10 years old . I seen my 150 pound grandpa lift my 250 pound grandma by her neck and beat her to a pulp before i was 10 ( I’ll NEVER forget ) that small indecent has affected my life to this day I’m 25 . So i can only freaking imagine … 😮💨💔
Dude, no offense, but your Grandpas must have been yoked!
Poor woman. I hate abusive men…. They just hit on weak women like they think theyre tough or something….
@@LilXancheXabusive women are just as bad
The stay hydrated reminder is great
Your channel is addictive
He always gets my complete attention when he's on screen because he is amazing. But his issues need even more attention, so much therapy.
A lot of these 'downfall' or 'demise' videos of celebs never seem to squeeze much compassion out of me, but Shia man, I don't know. I feel for the dude. Growing up in a messy home and experiencing parental abuse can do wild things to a human. Doesn't excuse anything, but the dude seems to have a level of self-understanding many others don't. I wish him and his family all the best.
😢it's hard to feel sorry for a person that gets so many chances and just throw it away.
I'm sure he wouldn't want anyone's pity
he's not going to change because he doesn't think he needs to. He's a narcissistic creep
Shia LeBeouf's career always fascinates me. I'm a huge fan of the Transformers movies and it's interesting hearing how he came from nothing and ended up being the star of that massive franchise, and everything after.
He lied about honey boy?! He used his time in rehab to craft a masterpiece story potentially destroying his relationship with his father. The thing I kinda like about Shia more than anything is that his life is a bit of an epic theatrical performance , intended or not.
It does seem like that, we are all players in the act of life, after all.
Surprised Patrick didn't mention when he plagiarised a comic book and then plagiarised his apology for the plagiarism. So yeah, lying about his dad would be in his wheelhouse.
That said... I'm not sure he did. He may be walking it back to rebuild his relationship with his dad. We really don't know at this point and I'm not sure we ever will.
I’m almost positive him rescinding his childhood experiences is a lie in order to rebuild his relationship with his father, he’s never been afraid of hurting himself or throwing himself down the stairs, so him taking the brunt of the weight off his fathers shoulders is probably the reality we’re faced with as well as becoming a father himself. For myself, once I became a father, it made me realize how my dad was a human and all the mistakes he made were things I could have done and done much worse. These are things we grow and we learn about ourselves. He’s growing and always changing and his perspectives will probably change several more times. I still love him as an actor no matter what.
He’s literally even stevens in real life lol
@@agentmueller yeah. Especially since he still uses alarming but less harsh words like “fractured” and “wonky”. That’s not exactly a loving relationship, but his dad has his own shit and didn’t know how to go about it. His dad loves him and vice versa but that doesn’t mean that they always made the right choices. Sounds like good intent but bad actions. Shia now sees that in himself (because it can be cyclical). Trauma is grey.
That was real good dude...👍
I liked young Shia a lot, and I identify with so many of his life struggles, so I feel for him. Still, HWNDU was some of the most fun I've had on the internet. Imo throughout life he's begged humanity to give him the wakeup call and self-realization he couldn't achieve on his own, provoking ppl into conflict to facilitate that realization. He's had a lot of chances; I hope he takes one of them eventually. He's obviously smart, but even the smartest ppl have trouble seeing themselves clearly.
Been a fan since day 1, he’s one of my favorite actors ever. Hope he gets it together
Patrick I just wanna say I’m fresh out of rehab / depressed / anxious / hopeful but sensitive to life still. I love my regulars I watch but man you have been so refreshing…… good for my soul and mind and I just wanna thank you for helping me escape with your videos ❤ may god bless you brother 🙏🏼 I love the “drink water part” it makes me feel in the present thank you so so much. Really.
This caught my attention being such a genuinely positive comment. I hope you are doing well and are still just as humbled and inspired 5 months later by hydrating with the good stuff, water. I've also been exactly where you were and I can tell by the sincerity in this comment that you have an attitude that will end in personal success, not addiction. keep up the good work
I love shia. I grew up watching him and i think he was absolutely amazing, and its sad hour it all ended for him. Maybe he wil come back. I can't say there are many people as talented as him. There arent. So good luck! I hope hou come back around shia if not i hope your happy!!
Pat, you’ve quickly become one of my favourite CZcamsrs. I will literally watch anything you post, even if I’ve never heard of the person it’s about (I have heard of Shia haha), which I can’t say for many channels. Keep it up.
Agreed ! 💪💪
Just be cautious of the kid Laroi video he completely made that one up for some reason
but his other videos are great
@@desiredrapfilms wait, not saying you’re wrong but how do you know? Did someone expose it or something?
@@KnzoCrew he has a video on Laroi but I’m from Australia in his area and he just made stuff up and missed key parts
Agreed! I haven't heard of MOST the people, but he makes such great and understandable videos that I'll still click it. If nothing else, I'm entertained and I've learned about someone new to me.
It seems that Shia found self acceptance through radical accountability. Something tells me that he went through a substantial amount of abuse that was sandwiched in between loving moments from his parents. He now carries himself in the humblest way imaginable constantly downplaying what he's been through while holding himself accountable for his actions. I don't know if that's an accurate take but that's the mindset I adopted when I decided to finally grew up and own my actions, past and present.
Yeah I think he's being genuine now. You can tell when someone has real regret and an honest desire to better themselves. Not like those other celebrities who never apologize for anything, blame everyone for everything while constantly playing victim. Shia is a saint compared to those degenerates.
I think you nailed it
>Something tells me that he went through a substantial amount of abuse that was sandwiched in between loving moments from his parents
He straight up admitted that he wasn't abused, and he said that his Dad was "loving at all times." So what exactly is telling you that he went through substantial abuse?
I love Shia. I'm glad you said this. People can change, they can do better. No matter how much they disappoint you. Everyone's journey in life is so different. I don't know who I'd be his shoes. But to me, a real man can acknowledge his wrong ways, take accountability, and actively try to be better every day.
That's still being in denial. I've been there and even to this day I'm still learning to accept EVERYTHING, meaning what people have done to you and what you have done to others. That's true acceptance. Naturally you'll move on and more opportunities will show down the line. You have to be able to accept it emotionally too, not just mentally.
I am in tears and feel bad for shia
. People don't understand how trauma can effect a person until adulthood
Shia converted to Catholicism on New Year's Eve. One does not do that without facing that he or she is a sinner. He admits his sins publicly and has determined to be a better man, with God's help. Sacred Scripture teaches that we are all sinners, and I say that there is freedom for anyone in facing that fact. We are all sinners in need of a Saviour, and that Saviour is none other than Jesus Christ. We should all be so courageous as Shia, to make this admission and unburden ourselves, seeking forgiveness and redemption.
He didn't lie about his father. He just only represented one side of who his father is. We have to remember this is a real person who is very emotionally damaged. I'm sure he felt that way about his dad at the time. But figured out and came to terms with the good his dad did and realized he wasn't to blame for all his problems. That he has to take responsibility.
So true. Also, when you’re trying to heal from that trauma, you go through a lot of anger and grief. When you process through all of that muck, you might even find forgiveness. Obviously he still loves his dad, and people without perfect childhoods can learn to come to terms with imperfect parents. The work to get there is hard and ugly. It’s continual, too. Been there
This is very impressive work here. Not too heavy for or against, going deeper than the usual cursory 'investigation' into the facts, and a good dose of compassion for another human being. Such qualities haven't ever been the norm, imho, and lately they're non-existent. So thank you, the extra effort and discipline to make this is not unnoticed by everyone. Keep it up, the world needs your vision and skill set!! ✌️
Ive loved shia for years..i understand him..i glad to see him and mia have had a child..a baby can change everything..good luck to him and his little family..no what i love you shia❤
I lived for decades with this story that I had a terrible childhood. Once I started to forgive those who had wronged me, my feelings started to change. While there were things about my childhood that definitely shaped me in negative ways, there were many wonderful things about my childhood that played an equal role in shaping the beautiful parts of who I am. Just like people are complex and no one is either all good or all bad, the truth about my past is complex. It's just my version of my story, told solely from my perspective. Now I understand and forgive the painful aspects of it, and revel in the beauty of it.
This was a little bit of an emotional roller coaster for me. Great story telling! I think it’s interesting that I’m so quick to blame my upbringing and my relationship with my mom as the reason why I’m feeling negative emotions at the time. But as soon as I start to be proactive and take accountability I’m able to look at my mom in such an appreciative light. I wonder if it was similar with this situation or if Shai’s just a masterful manipulator all around. Hoping for the best on his mental health journey.
It’s kinda a catch 22…
Parents usually have a pretty detrimental effect on the kids. Our parents have a big effect on our bias and how we emotionally react in our bodies.
But we have the power to control our actions and act not out of instinct but conscious will.
We are who we are, we can’t change the character, but we can change how we play the game😉
Love this
I tought the same thing! I went through different stadiums in accepting my grief so I thought about it less like a lie, but more of a repainting of a picture he had about his childhood.
@@aTribeCalledCasey agreed
I just hope he can actually turn his life around for the better. Even if he never does another film I'd be fine knowing that he isn't hurting and isn't hurting others at any capacity.
I love this MAN.
i just wanna give him a big hug. 🤗😩
When I first saw him on Even Stevens, I was so amazed by his talent. I was a fan for years. But I never knew how much he suffered as a child until now. ❤😢
So u telling me Pat... That not only was dude Stanley from Holes, but essentially stole the same shoes as the character in the movie?.... This is why I rock with Patrick bro, he's got the good details and always has a genuine nonbiased opinion towards the subjects of his content and also gives everyone the knowledge the deserve to know without discrediting or bashing on anyone in the process. Much love bro, stay hydrated
That delusion piece is hard to overcome. My parents deceived me about important shit throughout my life. It inflicts more damage than any spanking or backhand ever could.
Life's frustrating when you can't trust what the people who raised you tell you. Id imagine that probably happened to shia, and might explain how his own lies. You learn it somewhere, unfortunately. I hope he remains honest with himself and can continue to help others, the world needs more of that energy.
Thanks!
*”The only thing my father ever gave to me that was of any value to me was pain”*
Jesus christ man. What a gut punch to hear.
EDIT: not sympathizing with him/I know he was lying, it just came out of left field and was a fucked up thing to hear *in general*.
he was lying lol.
He walked this back in a Vanity Fair article and said the depiction of his dad in Honeyboy was "f--kin' nonsense." Guy's manipulative.
@@y2ksurvivor Yeah, his heroin addict father was probably a stand up dad!
@@barrygaler3701 Of course. Im talking about the general statement alone I should clarify.
That’s a fucked up thing to hear by itself.
@@darnellmajor8895 Ikr? With the shxt he lied about it’s like🙄
But the statement by itself is really dark and it hit hard.
Oh wow! Brother this was a fantastic vid. Keep this up.
When people cling on to every word you say and it's on the internet forever, you're bound to say something wrong and contradict yourself. When you have a camera on you since you were a kid, this gets even worse. Every stumble is a 10/10 controversy because people can fact check your own words.
Good objective video bro
The Greatest Game Ever Played is one of my favorite movies ever! He was so perfect for that role
I think you have to understand the context of growing up w a parent who is abusive/narcissistic etc to really get why a child would have such different narratives about that parent at different points in their healing process. It's a tough thing to come to terms with and your perspective changes so many times. So when you're being vulnerable about something like that as your process is ongoing, that's something you have to leave open to change as the layers sort themselves out. I feel for Shia. Much love ❤️
Shia was literally the year 2007 with both Transformers and Disturbia, always have to watch those over the summer lol. Hope he can fix things up
Just for Context: The "Actual Cannibal Shia Lebeouf" Live performance was a theatrical recreation of a viral animated video by the same name. It was Just absurdist comedy since that's what was popular during that time, and he most likely just heard that they'd be doing a live action version.
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i for one used to dislike him and in the past couple years i have grown to be proud of him and really like who he is becoming
I was surprised... you actually make good videos man. Pacing is very good. And for simplistic videos using all media from others, you still incorporate your own editing. Good job
He seems no different than most, if handed fortune and fame. I believe he has now probably grown and matured before our very eyes. God bless him and I wish him and his family the very best.
Shades of grey. Metaphor veiled as reality, and reality serving as metaphor for the deeper stories of who we are and who we become. You can lie and tell the truth at the same time in a dozen ways. Sometimes it's impossible not to. Authenticity is all we can aspire to.
Shia in Transformers movie is one of my all time fav movies... becuase of his acting
Dude this is probably my fave life story vid you’ve done, it was so detailed and gave a great inside look into his back story. I was always curious as to what happened him. The man is just unhinged and it always blows my mind how they never utilize the resources around them like therapy and other resources instead of willingly spiraling....ALSO, Patrick I hope ur doing well bro. U look a bit different in this video. No shade just genuine concern my man
@Johnny G To be fair drugs aren’t cheap and when you have money to throw you end up not thinking straight and choosing ransom options
Shia has been in therapy and rehab
Cant deny young shia is a beast, no training or anything and he's getting lead roles. I loved even steven growing up, but knowing everything he's been thru as a kid really makes me feel bad for him & respect him at the same time, not easy growing up in poverty or having a heroin addict as a parent & still making something out of yourself as a youth & not just growing into a regular junkie & ending up on the streets like so many do.
13:23 😂 that's some next level trolling doing all that lol
I felt that PTSD from violence in the household at an early age. You’re always on alert (anxiety) and you don’t know why.
Holy shit, Shia was in Freaks and Geeks and didn’t even notice. This show is a sea of stars before they were stars - one of my all time favourite shows. The walk through the school hall with the night suit was so surreal for me lol
I almost didn't watch this vid, as I thought that I knew everything there was to know about Shia. Holy shit, was I wrong. Brilliantly narrated, well edited, and super informative. A++ Patrick. My man, you are better than ever with your recent uploads.
Well done video
I feel bad that he had such a rough childhood and a creep for a father. I wish him the best in the future.
Did you see the end?
bro didn't finish the video
His father was abusive and a predator.
He’s abusive and an asshole
@@avacadocap9591wTF
Even Shia says he is not!? The son! Who made a whole movie about him!
What’s wrong with u
I knew his early life was messed up but Its even worse than I thought. How could adults allow him to be around a convicted sex offender even if that was his father. It explains so much now
Did u even watch the ending of the video, shia admitted that he vilified his dad and used him as an excuse as to why he's so fucked up but said his dad was always there and always loving
@opiate bliss There's no way to know which version of events was the truth. Afterall, they are both completely contradictory and yet claimed by the same man.
They are not contradictory as he stated his dad was messed up but still loving, which sounds like every human. What a joke people always want to play the victim and blame everyone else especially the parents
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you!
@@opiatebliss9233 his dad is still a sex offender prob shouldn’t be around children. I’ve nevet seen the movie either
Bro, I’d go nuts too if every bad thing I did was in the SPOTLIGHT. I’ve done a lot of shitty things in my life too just like him. No one can fully RECOVER when your past is constantly being brought to the surface. It’s cruel and just not right!
I believe in you Shia, you’re going to make it! Don’t listen to the haters. You deserve FORGIVENESS.
I've always said this about these young stars. They are wild young men just like every other young man trying to find his place in the world. The only difference is that they have a thousand cameras pointed at them all the time!
@@davegriffin9083 yes sir, 100%! I don’t think people realize that being famous isn’t as glamorous as it seems… most celebrities can’t do activities like a normal person, they have to cover up their identity. They can’t even grocery shop. Pretty sad honestly.
Maybe you also shouldn't be famous if you have done a lot of shitty things... Good people do actually exist lol just shitty people are attracted to fame
I never understood when times are at there hardest they don't fall apart but once they make it and become successful that's when they lose it.....smh
holes was my favorite book and film for a long time haha. read the book and watched the movie every year in school
I appreciate your content so much dude. Good work!
Patrick, your videos are always 10/10. Your hard work is so appreciated
I just listened to the podcast with Bernthall. Man has really become better. I'm rooting for him.
I'll never understand how these rich pple can't just chill in their mansion and enjoy their millions of dollars rather than act weird😂
One of the greatest actors in the modern era. No one’s from Hollyweird is offering him help, like they did for RD junior.
Very good work as always Patrick. I remember the first time I saw Shai on Even Stevens. I knew instantly that he was very talented. I'm only a couple of years younger than him, so it almost feels like I grew up alongside him. I wish him well but I hope he gets his shit together before it's too late. One correction, I don't think you can be a "former" Vietnam veteran. You're either a veteran or not. There is no former.