And there was a whole lot we didn't get to see at the AFR too! No Luce, no Andrew, no Ency or Jessenia. They gave us an extra long season but I wish they'd have used more of that time for the AFR!
I want a BIG ASS dick and BIG ASS bank account. Sure, anti social personality disorder is as big ass dick as they come. Big ass bank account, say no more the JO Morgan Branch NY has enough room for you to walk in and through to do your daily banking, Kate. Brittany stringing anyone a long? I’m going to add to this. Clearly looks like Brittany wants to find herself and anyone wanting a serious relationship from BIP. Really, the chances of that success ding is that that person truly knows who they are. Britany is 25, probably looking at this opportunity as business. To make up lies in your head what future fantasies you will have with Britney, knowing she’s trying to discover her own world is unfair. People set up their own disappointments and then then cry foul and carry this trial of poor coping skills that started way before they got onto the show.
Can I just say I’m so glad the audience was on Johnny’s side when he called Victoria out for her emotional cheating. Gave me hope for the franchise with that moment
@@mermaid000pranu did you listen to Nick vial of course he is on Victoria's side and must have said the c word 10 times. He is so outraged. I doubt that Johnny said it. I can imagine that Victoria said it. I think we all saw through Victoria and she deserves what's his face
@@HostileWorkplaceEXPOSED Why is it you so easy believe Johnny who was literally telling gabby 3 weeks before filming paradise that he wasnt ready for marriage and magically another 2 1/2 weeks later he's ready? They broke 3 weeks after the finale of paradise which Johnny even confirmed and she was friends with Greg prior. Why do people not believe her but they believe him just because he said so lol makes no sense
@@imapineapple15 that doesn't really have anything to do with why people believe Johnny and not V lol you really think this man changed his mind 5 weeks later about marriage
Shout out to Logan. He got to see everything that happened behind his back and when the time came he handled himself perfectly. Flo and Justin's breakup had me dying too.
I’m so glad they aired all the demeaning things Kate said about Logan. And I’m even more glad that Logan was able to stand up to her and defend himself! His words were well spoken.
Agreed! Don’t get how much hate Victoria gets but kate doesn’t seem to get any? Not really a fan of Logan but dang he def didn’t deserve that from this bitch!
This season taught me that the villain of a season won't always just be the worst person of the bunch, but it depends more on the situation. Shanae became the villain on her season for implying Elizabeth's ADHD made her a bad person, and everything afterwards was in response to the others not liking her from that. In this situation she's not target number 1 anymore so she can stand on equal ground with everyone else. Then it turns out Genevieve and Kate both have a lot in common with her and are arguably worse. Had Clayton's season played out different, any of them could've been the villain, and that's probably the case for many seasons before this too.
Yeah but if not for the greedy mistake she made, I still think she seems sweet and would actually be a really good match for Rodney. Hopefully maybe after time passes they might get back together. But yeah it was definitely right for him to not give in there.
What about Teddi and Rodney as a couple? She wanted to go out with him before she left and he was going to ask her. I heard that production wouldn't let her go on the date and that is why she left.
Exactly!! Imagine how Justin must have felt hearing that she is now backtracking again !!! Eliza needs lots of growing up to before she can be in a serious relationship!!
I feel like they could’ve gone into that so much more asking Justin what it was like when Eliza visited. But they cut it short which I think was a missed opportunity
I cheered when Rodney told Eliza that he’s moved on. She was her own worst enemy, having 2 great guys and losing both of in less than 2 days. Eliza, to quote the immortal words of DJ Khalid, “Congratulations, you played yourself.”
@@AuntieL_ATL Bachelor Producers will go after him again and again for his antics and drama!!! Shanae-nane, Genevieve and Justin's looks will be back!!! We did not hear Justin talk but they captured all his facial expressions!!!
Kate was the most unexpected villain I have seen in BIP. I'm glad that both Aaron and Genevieve accepted their responsibility of their behavior on the show. Victoria's response to her and jonnhy is super fishy. I don't believe her and don't believe her and Greg will last. Paradise was hell all this time and was exhausting to catch up.
I salute brandon and serene for not getting married on the beach. Obviously it was production’s manipulative strategy to try to squeeze the last bit of shock and awe possible out of this season and these two weren’t going to play along.
Serene & Brandon are too polite to say it, but I just knew neither one wanted to have a wedding ceremony with sweat pouring down their face on that beach. No thanks 😅
Honestly Victoria is the architect of her own demise!! Jonny doesn’t come across great on TV, he is very dry and sarcastic, and doesn’t like to show affection in front of people, all of which made people not really like him. Had she just waited until after the finale to start publicly dating Greg, they could have come out, had a tense breakup convo, and moved on. She made herself look bad, again! Also, her **pause, puts hand on Johnny’s shoulder** “hey, how are doing?” was such bullshit and so disingenuous! Lol like what?if you actually cared you would ask in private not mid-sentence.
I thought Johnny came across as very likable on BIP, personally. He was fun and lighthearted, but underneath you saw a real human being who had issues and was trying his best. He showed more complexity than a lot of guys on these shows do.
He came across great on TV, actually ! Likeable in my opinion! He didn’t try to be someone he is not, he was respectful the whole time, handled the situation with Alex very well and even here at AFR he handled himself so well! Very respectful and laid back despite of the heartbreak and cheating! I feel a sadness with him and it breaks my heart for him !
Johnny just came off insecure, he's a sweetie. I knew Victoria was shady and I didn't understand why she pretended to love Johnny. She is just the worst, hope she is getting major hate. Thing is these days people just want the fame. Not enough care for how you appear to others anymore.
@@hommefataltaemin I agree with you, but some people took some his jokes the wrong way, like when he was walking away from Victoria and was like “stop or I’ll take it back”. It actually reminds me of my husband and I, but some people thought he was being dismissive of her. I’m just saying I get their POV and think Victoria could have come out of this fine, considering how good she came across on BIP, if she had just waited a few weeks to publicly date Greg.
Ive been wondering if somehow Ency got hammered at that party and the show doesn’t want that getting out because of liability? That’s the only way I can imagine someone acting the way she did, and I know sometimes there’s issues with alcohol on these shows
Those twin young men are actually more mature than Shane is ,I'm sure their mother is proud of them ,they were nothing but prefect gentlemen on the shoe no embarrassment from these two, their behavior was far more respectful than some of the other contestants ,and they sure conducted themselves much better than shanae did!.
They are really classy and handsome men, and did the most and handled themselves the best that they could, given the bad setup that the show gave them (young and late to the beach)...and with only much older ladies available. The older ladies were also screwed by the show. The aussie woman handled herself well, Shanae not so much.
So happy for Genevieve. She dodged a HUGE narcissistic bullet in Aaron. I knew he wouldn't be able to pass up a national TV discard. Too tempting for a narc. I kept screaming RUN GENEVIEVE RRRRUUUUUNNNN!!!
I don’t get how she got let off the hook for how she treated Sally tho. I like G but I was hoping for an apology to fix her bully arc. Honestly G and Aaron are two peas in a pod. He may be more narcisstic but she’s not all that herself. g is kind of a b.
Girl, Eliza you told Rodney to his face you had stronger feeling for Justin then you flew around the world to find him!!! How on earth 🌎 do you want Rodney to forget that embarrassment???
@@sftheletters I hated that she got a redemption arc. She has a DUI and modelled for WLM, and that's just we know for sure, add in the rumours of how her old classmates came out and said she was an horrible bully, how she was shown on both her seasons and everything RS said about her - nothing about her adds up to her being a nice person and I feel like she used Johnny as her redemption arc. I hope she never comes back on the show.
Fr! It's so obvious justin knows they were together and V cheater lol and it was also really obvious on Greg's face based off of V's actions that they cheated lol
The editing of this pisses me off, they edited out Johnny saying that he didn’t say those things to Victoria, but she said she was too good for him and that she did throw a glass of wine at him. My guess is both those things happened, but the fact that they’re playing favorites with Victoria is annoying, when she clearly crossed the line with Greg.
I don't think Aaron was ever in love with Genevieve. He did pompous speeches about his love and deep feelings. However, his actions and body language were saying : "I don't really care about you. I am just using you to last till the end of the season". I hope and pray that Genevieve moves on and finds someone, who will truly love and appreciate her. Also, some good therapy would be so helpful for her to manage emotional regulation and control.
Yeah, but I don't know if he is cunning or just a complete idiot and doesn't understand real relationships. He is just saying what he thinks he is supposed to, but gives me very controlling vibes.
@@Aaron-kj8dv it is the hair + immaturity. When you get older and wiser, you get that a stable bold person that gives you his last oreo cookie is the perfect fit.
Here's a word of advice - if you are so scared of being caught that you have to go all the way to another continent then what you are doing is really shady.
@@vanillaghetto exactly! She legally couldn’t go out in the US. It was probably still a shady move but OP missed the mark here. Going to another continent was the only way she could legally go out with someone else. What would make it shady is if she was still engaged Johnny at the time. That is hella shady.
Brandon ,and serene were the very ,and only worthwhile things to watch all season ,and the only non toxic couple to come out. So happy for them ,and I wish them them all the best ,and happiness 🥰❤.
@@vanillaghetto he’s not performative lmao. They’re just a normal couple together. He didn’t handle Sierra the best and that sucks. And he def needs therapy. But at the end of the day he’s just a guy with issues, and he clearly loves Danielle. I think it’s shitty to call him performative when there’s no evidence of that at all.
Anyone remember when on Peters season , her ex friend warned Peter she is fake af. She is all about attention. She will be single a very long time. Greg said they dated in the weeks she returned from beach. Well, she was officially engaged then. She is vile. Johnny had it wrong, she is not good enough for him.
The Tell All Reunion episode should've been a 2 parter. They could have wrapped up the Finale Rose/Decision day last week, so then the reunion could have actually have Justin, Andrea, Jessenia and Ency talk and having more time for questioning the big topics. Side note: thank you soooo much to everyone helping out the families affected by the Club Q Shooting. I live in Colorado Springs and the community was truly shocked. Appreciate you all ❤️
I thought he seemed totally into it. Two narcissists. Should be fun interesting to see how they work out. They are actually quite perfect for each other.
He seemed uncomfortable to me too. She kept pulling on him, and laying her head on him, while he didn't respond at all. She did the same thing Eliza did, only Victoria was in a horribly vicious way. She's such a manipulative liar.
I was shocked with Brittany. She seemed like a totally different person then we have seen previsouly. Shanea and Victoria not so much. They acted as expected-ugh.
@@ldjt6184 huh? He didn’t respect her boundaries. When a guy does that to me, I end things with him. Britney probably knows red flags and knows when to leave. Nothing wrong with that. If a guy can’t leave you alone for more than two hours when you ask for space, that means he’s either controlling or insecure or both. He isn’t respecting her needs as an individual that can think for herself. It’s suffocating. People need time to think for themselves and to be their own person. I would never do that to my partner. When my boyfriend tells me he’s busy and stressed and needs self care time or time to focus on work I respect that. When I ask him for time to myself till 5 pm if I’m at the beach or with my family during the day, he respects that and is secure, supportive, and accepting. I try to be the same.
@@jeteaze I wholeheartedly agree with you. I can't stand being smothered either...it's the biggest turnoff. But are we sure that Tyler was in fact behaving that way?
Gotta admit though, out of all of bachelor nation Greg is a good example of someone who deserves a relationship with someone like Victoria. He’s just as bad as she is. They deserve each other. Who knows, maybe their specific brand of toxic will somehow work well together. Let’s keep these two off the market.
The best thing to come out of last night was Jacob, and Jill wanting to be together 🥺❤ I have such a soft spot for them ,and I think they'll make it far.
I liked Victoria, until seeing how she acted at the reunion. She did Johnny dirty and obviously doesn’t feel bad about what she did. I wish Tyler would have said what he wanted.
They needed a three hour AFP. They did a 3hr finale for Gabby/Rachel, in which they spent the final hour on the new bachelor, so why not for BIP as well? Good luck to Michael&Danielle, awesome couple!
Just goes to show how evil ,and cold- hearted people on this show truly are. It's sad that Victoria can't even own up to the fact that it's cheating. Completely disgraceful.
She’s a serial home wrecker she probably ran out of married men to date and though that it would be fun to flip the script and get engaged only to cheat once a home wrecker always a home wrecker
Victoria had the best villain edit come back.. HAD. I think she always does this “cold” breakups and moves on quickly to a new guy. I feel for Greg as that’s going to be one hell of a roller coaster relationship giving both plan the blame game!
I know there’s 2 sides to every story and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle but I can’t help but lean towards Johnny is telling more of the truth than Victoria.
Eliza only said that the she had feelings for Rodney because he is now the only one left after Justin rejected her. She told Justin it was a mistake not to choose him. And now she is telling Rodney it was a mistake to go after Justin. She doesn't know who she wants and she ends up with neither.
Justin said on Twitter that he was skeptical of Eliza for exactly these reasons. He certainly wasn't happy to see her when he opened the door. Whether Justin still has lingering feelings for Eliza or not, her indecisiveness would make anyone skeptical.
Don't think Brittany did or said anything wrong, but the fact that she came off cold compared to tyler sounding sad made her looks worse to viewers People tends to care more how you say things more than what you actually say.
Yea but when someone is gushing about you like that and having a hard time letting go you have to be cold to make sure you don’t give them something to cling to. It’s better Tyler knows there’s no chance of rekindling. I agree with the comment about her being more avoidantly attached than him too
@@ldjt6184 and people are defending her and giving excuses for her behavior. I still don't understand why if they left together so happy,what happened that she suddenly needed a break?
I just have to say that Victoria is the wooooooooooorst!!! And so are Shanae and Kate. They made Logan look good with how awful both were. Eliza needs to spend time with herself to get to know her emotions and what she wants.
Lol the “Victoria we knew from Peters season” clip 😂 I really thought this time around Victoria was going to be different But no… I had my hopes. Poor Johnny
There were multiple moments yesterday where I was literally cracking up at scenes the Bachelor meant to be serious, they really can’t figure out how to get out of their own way. That being said the hot seat of Michael and Danielle was one of the greatest Bachelor franchise moments ever.
In a weird way, Logan should be grateful to Kate, the edit could rally have gone badly for him (with Shanae, Gabby and Rachel also all taking swipes at him) but Kate was so awful that I wound up really liking him and want to see him in the next Paradise, I did not see that happening at all and he very easily could of had a villain arc.
You’re so right! He totally looked like an indecisive child going from woman to woman just like with Gabby and Rachel. However, Kate ended up being such a monster that his shenanigans were completely overshadowed. And I mean, honestly, it is paradise. It is pretty appropriate to date around. However, I don’t know if I’ve seen anyone date as many women or be as indecisive as Logan. It didn’t seem like he was truly trying to find his best match. Seemed more like he was constantly looking for something better to come along which is very different. In any case, oh boy did Kate really give that boy a get out of jail free card. Her behavior plus his well thought out response to it put in back in the positive column for sure.
i can’t view eliza as a villain like a lot of the franchise does. I see a confused, naive, maybe even immature young woman who’s never had two guys after her before. She had maybe a day to choose between two guys she barely knew, chose wrong, embarrassed them and herself, and was hurt by it. Did she mess up. Oh yeah. Is she a bad person? I don’t buy that. Let’s keep the villain energy for people who knowingly did wrong
She hurt 2 men who may have wanted a future with her (unpopular opinion: yes, Justin I think really did like her and I'm glad he rejected her). She needs to get over herself. They both deserve better. She's an immature, manipulative, gas lighter and she needed to be called out. Can't be playing victim either. Glad the men eventually saw her true colors, got past her looks and moved on. She needs to understand that she can't play with people and get away with it.
Victoria was confusing & frustrating to watch on Peter's season. Why producers brought her back at the expense of everyone is disappointing. Just when we thought she had changed, she shows us she's still very much the same. She never really owned up to her past misgivings so it'd be difficult to grow & change without that. She has some serious deep rooted issues that need to be handled the right way, as seen in how she jumps from guy to guy (some married to her best friends) like nothing. Before she seriously evaluates herself and takes proper action, unfortunately, many will be collateral damage along the way.
Thank GOODNESS that I didn't invest the time and brain cells to actually watch this BiP season, and THANK YOU Bachelor Fantake for giving us the replay! Good luck Brandon & Serene!!
I give Victoria and Greg 6 months tops. She's proving herself to be a real piece of work. Consider yourself lucky Johhny to have gotten out when you did.
Turns out having one of the best group of guys (excluding Aaron haha) on the beach mixed with one of the worst group of women (excluding multiple women) doesn't end up with a lot of happy couples. Usually the guys are the dumpster fires, so it was interesting to say the least
It’s too bad with so many nice men didn’t get a chance to meet some nice women. I prefer the sweet romance to the drama. Some of these men were really hurt by this experience and that’s not something I want to watch.
@@stellashepherd3229 I think it's shameful how the producers play games with the lives of men and women honestly looking for love. One glaring example is how they allowed Justin to return which devestated Rodney's chances of finding love. Another example was the "situation" with Sally's suitcase and her feeling intimidated enough to go home. There were other examples, but my final one is sending the women away from paradise and watching Olu and the other men being humiliated because the original women were in committed relationships. Ok.. one more but there are many more. Who was the random dude, tall White with a bun who was at the rose ceremony after the ladies returned to Paradise? I have been a fan of the Bachelor Franchise shows since year one but Bachelor in Paradise 2022 was such a mess not to mention the myriad of unexplained lose ends of leading storylines so I am DONE with the Bachelor Franchise shows. I am so disappointed.
Kate’s attempt to say that her critique of Logan was in a female “locker room” context is bogus! She continued to criticize him in ITMs, which will obviously make the cut and Logan would definitely see them as well as the rest ob bachelor nation! Pathetic excuse, I’m not buying it!
I can get past the idea of him being there to further his publicity but the pretending to have feelings for anyone and denying that it’s a bro vacation for him is so frustrating. And he gets soooooo upset if anyone threatens his chances at staying suddenly “they’re not there for the right reasons”. The dude is a joke and I’d be thrilled if I never saw his face again.
Thank god he mentioned the dresses. I was shook. Thank you for these updates because i have no one else to talk to so I pause the video and give my input
And there was a whole lot we didn't get to see at the AFR too! No Luce, no Andrew, no Ency or Jessenia. They gave us an extra long season but I wish they'd have used more of that time for the AFR!
And they cut soo much out as well! Still am very happy to see Michael and Danielle doing great!
I want a BIG ASS dick and BIG ASS bank account. Sure, anti social personality disorder is as big ass dick as they come. Big ass bank account, say no more the JO Morgan Branch NY has enough room for you to walk in and through to do your daily banking, Kate.
Brittany stringing anyone a long? I’m going to add to this. Clearly looks like Brittany wants to find herself and anyone wanting a serious relationship from BIP. Really, the chances of that success ding is that that person truly knows who they are. Britany is 25, probably looking at this opportunity as business. To make up lies in your head what future fantasies you will have with Britney, knowing she’s trying to discover her own world is unfair. People set up their own disappointments and then then cry foul and carry this trial of poor coping skills that started way before they got onto the show.
For once I actually wanted to see more on AFR too😂
They should’ve split it into two nights
The "oh there you are Peter" clips got me smilin 🤣
Can I just say I’m so glad the audience was on Johnny’s side when he called Victoria out for her emotional cheating. Gave me hope for the franchise with that moment
That's because everyone knows how Victoria is 🙄🙄
@@mermaid000pranu did you listen to Nick vial of course he is on Victoria's side and must have said the c word 10 times. He is so outraged. I doubt that Johnny said it. I can imagine that Victoria said it. I think we all saw through Victoria and she deserves what's his face
@@HostileWorkplaceEXPOSED Why is it you so easy believe Johnny who was literally telling gabby 3 weeks before filming paradise that he wasnt ready for marriage and magically another 2 1/2 weeks later he's ready? They broke 3 weeks after the finale of paradise which Johnny even confirmed and she was friends with Greg prior. Why do people not believe her but they believe him just because he said so lol makes no sense
@@SS-wq4ky they spend 24/7 together on the beach versus like a couple of hours max with the lead on Bach /'rette. Imo it's not the same.
@@imapineapple15 that doesn't really have anything to do with why people believe Johnny and not V lol you really think this man changed his mind 5 weeks later about marriage
Shout out to Logan. He got to see everything that happened behind his back and when the time came he handled himself perfectly. Flo and Justin's breakup had me dying too.
Especially following directly after Joey made the comments about how he wanted a relationship like Flo and Justin, one that could last. I was cackling
I’m so glad they aired all the demeaning things Kate said about Logan. And I’m even more glad that Logan was able to stand up to her and defend himself! His words were well spoken.
Best part of the night for me!
Agreed! Don’t get how much hate Victoria gets but kate doesn’t seem to get any? Not really a fan of Logan but dang he def didn’t deserve that from this bitch!
This season taught me that the villain of a season won't always just be the worst person of the bunch, but it depends more on the situation. Shanae became the villain on her season for implying Elizabeth's ADHD made her a bad person, and everything afterwards was in response to the others not liking her from that. In this situation she's not target number 1 anymore so she can stand on equal ground with everyone else. Then it turns out Genevieve and Kate both have a lot in common with her and are arguably worse. Had Clayton's season played out different, any of them could've been the villain, and that's probably the case for many seasons before this too.
@@speedude0164 I definitely agree with you on Kate on how much worse she has gotten for sure.
Zanab and Cole vibes from love is blind
Eliza has alot of growing up to do I'm glad Rodney didn't give in to it. He deserves so much more.
Yeah but if not for the greedy mistake she made, I still think she seems sweet and would actually be a really good match for Rodney. Hopefully maybe after time passes they might get back together. But yeah it was definitely right for him to not give in there.
She’s a little girl. Not ready.
@@smilechynwa Too young.
@@smilechynwa Not a good match for Rodney, she was mind fuking him from beginning til end.
What about Teddi and Rodney as a couple? She wanted to go out with him before she left and he was going to ask her. I heard that production wouldn't let her go on the date and that is why she left.
Eliza only thinks it's a mistake rejecting Rodney, because she was rejected by Justin.
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This! This is the comment I was looking for 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Exactly!! Imagine how Justin must have felt hearing that she is now backtracking again !!! Eliza needs lots of growing up to before she can be in a serious relationship!!
I feel like they could’ve gone into that so much more asking Justin what it was like when Eliza visited. But they cut it short which I think was a missed opportunity
@@Blueeyesinthesky Yes, they needed a part 2 for ALL the 'scoop'. 😁
I cheered when Rodney told Eliza that he’s moved on. She was her own worst enemy, having 2 great guys and losing both of in less than 2 days.
Eliza, to quote the immortal words of DJ Khalid, “Congratulations, you played yourself.”
😂😂 she played too much
She f’ed around and found out!
Lmao at "The immortal words of dj Khaled!" Lol..."God did!!"
Aarons been projecting every season with the “not here for the right reasons” attacks.
facts!
He's just there for the free vacations. I hope this is the last BIP we see him.
You are all forgetting this man came to BIP for the Bromance!!! I was so sure James would have come back like Justin to get his Bro!!!
@@AuntieL_ATL Bachelor Producers will go after him again and again for his antics and drama!!! Shanae-nane, Genevieve and Justin's looks will be back!!! We did not hear Justin talk but they captured all his facial expressions!!!
He actually got worse this season because of the constant fights with Genevieve.
Kate was the most unexpected villain I have seen in BIP. I'm glad that both Aaron and Genevieve accepted their responsibility of their behavior on the show. Victoria's response to her and jonnhy is super fishy. I don't believe her and don't believe her and Greg will last. Paradise was hell all this time and was exhausting to catch up.
Reality steve says that, he was dating another woman right before paradise and probably put her on hold and rekindled things after paradise.
Graig's body language was showing the signs that he is lying about how they started dating and when.
Katie is the only winner this season, not ending up with this dude/Player. Run Victoria run!
Well. Victoria being Victoria is just the cherry on top of a chaotic season.
Once a home wrecker always a home wrecker
I salute brandon and serene for not getting married on the beach. Obviously it was production’s manipulative strategy to try to squeeze the last bit of shock and awe possible out of this season and these two weren’t going to play along.
So thankful for that!
Serene & Brandon are too polite to say it, but I just knew neither one wanted to have a wedding ceremony with sweat pouring down their face on that beach. No thanks 😅
They're already broken up anyway.
@@marcaristorenas I don’t think they are… source?
I would have been like "We can get married on this beach. In about a year with all our family and friends."
Honestly Victoria is the architect of her own demise!! Jonny doesn’t come across great on TV, he is very dry and sarcastic, and doesn’t like to show affection in front of people, all of which made people not really like him. Had she just waited until after the finale to start publicly dating Greg, they could have come out, had a tense breakup convo, and moved on. She made herself look bad, again! Also, her **pause, puts hand on Johnny’s shoulder** “hey, how are doing?” was such bullshit and so disingenuous! Lol like what?if you actually cared you would ask in private not mid-sentence.
I thought Johnny came across as very likable on BIP, personally. He was fun and lighthearted, but underneath you saw a real human being who had issues and was trying his best. He showed more complexity than a lot of guys on these shows do.
he was always super chill in my mind
He came across great on TV, actually ! Likeable in my opinion! He didn’t try to be someone he is not, he was respectful the whole time, handled the situation with Alex very well and even here at AFR he handled himself so well! Very respectful and laid back despite of the heartbreak and cheating! I feel a sadness with him and it breaks my heart for him !
Johnny just came off insecure, he's a sweetie. I knew Victoria was shady and I didn't understand why she pretended to love Johnny. She is just the worst, hope she is getting major hate. Thing is these days people just want the fame. Not enough care for how you appear to others anymore.
@@hommefataltaemin I agree with you, but some people took some his jokes the wrong way, like when he was walking away from Victoria and was like “stop or I’ll take it back”. It actually reminds me of my husband and I, but some people thought he was being dismissive of her. I’m just saying I get their POV and think Victoria could have come out of this fine, considering how good she came across on BIP, if she had just waited a few weeks to publicly date Greg.
i am so upset that we didn't see anything with Andrew, Ency and Jessenia!! i was curious what Ency had to say for her behavior
Yeah. Surprised how no one is inviting Ency for a podcast or interview to discuss her behavior!
Right what the hell?!
@@mermaid000pranu she probably doesn't want to go on any podcast after watching her pathetic actions on TV.
Ive been wondering if somehow Ency got hammered at that party and the show doesn’t want that getting out because of liability? That’s the only way I can imagine someone acting the way she did, and I know sometimes there’s issues with alcohol on these shows
What happened
Those twin young men are actually more mature than Shane is ,I'm sure their mother is proud of them ,they were nothing but prefect gentlemen on the shoe no embarrassment from these two, their behavior was far more respectful than some of the other contestants ,and they sure conducted themselves much better than shanae did!.
“You’re more of a man than she’ll ever be bro”
They are really classy and handsome men, and did the most and handled themselves the best that they could, given the bad setup that the show gave them (young and late to the beach)...and with only much older ladies available. The older ladies were also screwed by the show. The aussie woman handled herself well, Shanae not so much.
So happy for Genevieve. She dodged a HUGE narcissistic bullet in Aaron. I knew he wouldn't be able to pass up a national TV discard. Too tempting for a narc. I kept screaming RUN GENEVIEVE RRRRUUUUUNNNN!!!
I don’t get how she got let off the hook for how she treated Sally tho. I like G but I was hoping for an apology to fix her bully arc. Honestly G and Aaron are two peas in a pod. He may be more narcisstic but she’s not all that herself. g is kind of a b.
@@michaelw234 yea G's behavior half the time was trash....
Read somewhere that Aaron had a gf as soon as he went home from paradise
Aaron is one of the biggest scum bags to ever be on that franchise. I really hope I run into that douchebag in San Diego.
Honestly she was just as bad if not worse. Her response to conflict is just to whine at them for being an asshole.
Girl, Eliza you told Rodney to his face you had stronger feeling for Justin then you flew around the world to find him!!! How on earth 🌎 do you want Rodney to forget that embarrassment???
I'm starting to wonder if she just wanted to marry both of them.
😅😅
@@speedude0164 fast forward now, she wanted none of them. The girl is beautiful she'll get whoever is deserving of her with or without the show
Zachary s Allen for next bachelor???
She reeks of mean girl energy and comes across as really inauthentic. Not a fan of her at all.
@@sftheletters I hated that she got a redemption arc. She has a DUI and modelled for WLM, and that's just we know for sure, add in the rumours of how her old classmates came out and said she was an horrible bully, how she was shown on both her seasons and everything RS said about her - nothing about her adds up to her being a nice person and I feel like she used Johnny as her redemption arc. I hope she never comes back on the show.
She hasn’t changed at all. She’s worse than Shanae.
I got duped. Yeah, I do dumb stuff sometimes.
@@bkopgamer fictoria at least seems to be cool with other women
Justin’s facial expression during Victoria and Greg’s hot seat omg!
Right? Especially since Justin and Greg are bff
Fr! It's so obvious justin knows they were together and V cheater lol and it was also really obvious on Greg's face based off of V's actions that they cheated lol
Wasn't this so good! It fit well 😉
Not enough people are talking about yet another memeable face 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The thought of marrying a girl like Victoria is terrifying.
Imagine the divorce. Lol which will happen cos she has no morals.
she's a lot like my ex so man i dodged a massive bullet
The editing of this pisses me off, they edited out Johnny saying that he didn’t say those things to Victoria, but she said she was too good for him and that she did throw a glass of wine at him. My guess is both those things happened, but the fact that they’re playing favorites with Victoria is annoying, when she clearly crossed the line with Greg.
The energy that Greg brings out of Victoria is sooo sketchy
I don't think Aaron was ever in love with Genevieve. He did pompous speeches about his love and deep feelings. However, his actions and body language were saying : "I don't really care about you. I am just using you to last till the end of the season".
I hope and pray that Genevieve moves on and finds someone, who will truly love and appreciate her. Also, some good therapy would be so helpful for her to manage emotional regulation and control.
Yeah, but I don't know if he is cunning or just a complete idiot and doesn't understand real relationships. He is just saying what he thinks he is supposed to, but gives me very controlling vibes.
Vitoria and Greg are like the perfect choice for each other 😂😂😂
That’s what I was thinking
@@julietteSoul their not so great personalities match 1000% 😂
Greg is so boring, why do women go crazy for him?
@@Aaron-kj8dv it is the hair + immaturity. When you get older and wiser, you get that a stable bold person that gives you his last oreo cookie is the perfect fit.
@@iliaalomia7798 lmao
Here's a word of advice - if you are so scared of being caught that you have to go all the way to another continent then what you are doing is really shady.
Well, except that she's on a reality show, with a signed contract, and the finale hadn't aired yet.
Either way it’s shady. She couldn’t wait a few months? What’s the rush?
@@vanillaghetto exactly! She legally couldn’t go out in the US. It was probably still a shady move but OP missed the mark here. Going to another continent was the only way she could legally go out with someone else. What would make it shady is if she was still engaged Johnny at the time. That is hella shady.
Brandon ,and serene were the very ,and only worthwhile things to watch all season ,and the only non toxic couple to come out.
So happy for them ,and I wish them them all the best ,and happiness 🥰❤.
What about Michael and Danielle?!
@@sarahlang2119 Performative. As someone else said. But then Michael is *always* performative.
@@vanillaghetto how?
@@vanillaghetto he’s not performative lmao. They’re just a normal couple together. He didn’t handle Sierra the best and that sucks. And he def needs therapy. But at the end of the day he’s just a guy with issues, and he clearly loves Danielle. I think it’s shitty to call him performative when there’s no evidence of that at all.
@@hommefataltaemin i’ve never thought he was performative but the “i love you” for the first time on television was a little weird…
Aaron from the beginning wanted a girlfriend at the beach so he can hang out with the boys and stay til the end for screen time.
Man BIP Victoria really did fool me into thinking she was different now 😭😂
I always found her demeanor on bip very inauthentic
Some of it may be a bit of an act, but she seems rotten to her core tbh
Anyone remember when on Peters season , her ex friend warned Peter she is fake af. She is all about attention. She will be single a very long time. Greg said they dated in the weeks she returned from beach. Well, she was officially engaged then. She is vile. Johnny had it wrong, she is not good enough for him.
"Wow how dare you? How dare you make me like Logan!" 🤣🤣🤣
The Tell All Reunion episode should've been a 2 parter. They could have wrapped up the Finale Rose/Decision day last week, so then the reunion could have actually have Justin, Andrea, Jessenia and Ency talk and having more time for questioning the big topics.
Side note: thank you soooo much to everyone helping out the families affected by the Club Q Shooting. I live in Colorado Springs and the community was truly shocked. Appreciate you all ❤️
Getting matching " ciao" tattoos is so cheesy. They may as well just get " Italy 2022" tattoos.
*Tattoos* are cheesy.
So the real villain of this season was... the country of Italy?
*victoria
@@Userhandleidk and Britney
@@GAMEoVIDZ definitely
I gained alot of respect for Logan last night we love an authentic, and honest mans.
He's reaching his peaks half circles at a time. That makes him an honest,confident hard worker. He'll stud up well for himself lastnite
He’s been that way the whole time. Both seasons.
Greg was sooooo uncomfortable on stage 😭 esp with Victoria exposing them
He said... oh we’re doing that. 🤣🤣
I thought he seemed totally into it. Two narcissists. Should be fun interesting to see how they work out. They are actually quite perfect for each other.
He seemed uncomfortable to me too. She kept pulling on him, and laying her head on him, while he didn't respond at all. She did the same thing Eliza did, only Victoria was in a horribly vicious way. She's such a manipulative liar.
I was shocked with Brittany. She seemed like a totally different person then we have seen previsouly. Shanea and Victoria not so much. They acted as expected-ugh.
The pizza guy was right
There’s literally nothing wrong with Brittany.
@@denisselopez69 Are you dating her? I suspect she would like you more than she liked Tyler.
@@vanillaghetto a girl Can dream 🥰
@kam fisher baaaaabbaazorrrnno bitches!! All jokes aside he had me rollllling when he did that!!
The Tyler and Britney part of the show made me legitimately really sad
She's another one who doesn't know a good man when she sees one.
Britney is heartless
Brittany is a waste. I couldn't trust someone like her
@@ldjt6184 huh? He didn’t respect her boundaries. When a guy does that to me, I end things with him. Britney probably knows red flags and knows when to leave. Nothing wrong with that.
If a guy can’t leave you alone for more than two hours when you ask for space, that means he’s either controlling or insecure or both. He isn’t respecting her needs as an individual that can think for herself. It’s suffocating. People need time to think for themselves and to be their own person.
I would never do that to my partner. When my boyfriend tells me he’s busy and stressed and needs self care time or time to focus on work I respect that. When I ask him for time to myself till 5 pm if I’m at the beach or with my family during the day, he respects that and is secure, supportive, and accepting. I try to be the same.
@@jeteaze I wholeheartedly agree with you. I can't stand being smothered either...it's the biggest turnoff. But are we sure that Tyler was in fact behaving that way?
Victoria has never changed since Peter’s season. Greg will learn when she finds his upgrade as she moves up the Bachelor Chain 😑
Gotta admit though, out of all of bachelor nation Greg is a good example of someone who deserves a relationship with someone like Victoria. He’s just as bad as she is. They deserve each other. Who knows, maybe their specific brand of toxic will somehow work well together. Let’s keep these two off the market.
The best thing to come out of last night was Jacob, and Jill wanting to be together 🥺❤ I have such a soft spot for them ,and I think they'll make it far.
Him carrying her off Tarzan style was just pure joy. So happy for them.
You didn’t need to put a comma after Jacob’s name
@@SavvyMuhon bruh
@@Userhandleidk
You rang?
Agreed!
Victoria and Gregg being the second coming of Pieper and Brendan lmao
I liked Victoria, until seeing how she acted at the reunion. She did Johnny dirty and obviously doesn’t feel bad about what she did. I wish Tyler would have said what he wanted.
Get Victoria off my screen pls. Enough with this girl. And now she's in new Bachelor Zach's season too? No more pls!
I thought I saw her on Zach's preview. At first I thought it was a lookalike. I was so confused....lol
They needed a three hour AFP. They did a 3hr finale for Gabby/Rachel, in which they spent the final hour on the new bachelor, so why not for BIP as well? Good luck to Michael&Danielle, awesome couple!
This is the episode that needed to be 3 hours. They missed so much
The reunion actually had juice to squeeze. But that was not even enough to fill a glass!
The way Romeo, and Justin reacted was my reaction🤣.
"Oh there you are Peter!" 😆😆😆 All I can say is good luck Greg 😃 Johnny ya dodged a big one🙄
Johnny was a class act if victoria had this fight with Aaron ,this would've gone Jerry springer real fast.
Lol. Aaron would’ve thrown a storm. I think she goes for the nicer guys so she can step all over them. Maneater!
I’ve already seen this exact comment under a different video !!
Just goes to show how evil ,and cold- hearted people on this show truly are. It's sad that Victoria can't even own up to the fact that it's cheating. Completely disgraceful.
She's a piece of work but I'd still hit it, you probably would as well lol
She herself probably doesn't believe it is
She's a bird that's why
She’s a serial home wrecker she probably ran out of married men to date and though that it would be fun to flip the script and get engaged only to cheat once a home wrecker always a home wrecker
Victoria had the best villain edit come back.. HAD. I think she always does this “cold” breakups and moves on quickly to a new guy. I feel for Greg as that’s going to be one hell of a roller coaster relationship giving both plan the blame game!
You feel for Greg? It was his idea to go to Italy! They both are shady and in it together 100%!
17:40 wow this melted my heart. His explanation and most importantly her reaction was just so adorable!
Agreed, it was super sweet!
Aarons laugh at 8:13 TOOK ME OUT 😂 HELPPO
Logan looks totally rich now, I bet he was a secret millionaire.
I know there’s 2 sides to every story and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle but I can’t help but lean towards Johnny is telling more of the truth than Victoria.
When she was asked if she cheated on Johnny, her head was nodding as the words out of her mouth were saying no. Body language says so much.
@@ldjt6184 body language analysis is a pseudoscience
It's batter they broke up for now maybe he is hurting for Shure it's for the baste for him
@@solveig964 Tell that to The Behaviour Panel
@@ldjt6184 the fact that they are "body language experts" does not mean that their field is not a pseudoscience
Eliza only said that the she had feelings for Rodney because he is now the only one left after Justin rejected her. She told Justin it was a mistake not to choose him. And now she is telling Rodney it was a mistake to go after Justin. She doesn't know who she wants and she ends up with neither.
Justin said on Twitter that he was skeptical of Eliza for exactly these reasons. He certainly wasn't happy to see her when he opened the door. Whether Justin still has lingering feelings for Eliza or not, her indecisiveness would make anyone skeptical.
Don't think Brittany did or said anything wrong, but the fact that she came off cold compared to tyler sounding sad made her looks worse to viewers
People tends to care more how you say things more than what you actually say.
She’s probably is an avoidant type while Tyler is an attachment. She’s not intentionally trying to be cold.
@@yume816 She came across horribly last night. My opinion of her did a 180.
Yea but when someone is gushing about you like that and having a hard time letting go you have to be cold to make sure you don’t give them something to cling to. It’s better Tyler knows there’s no chance of rekindling. I agree with the comment about her being more avoidantly attached than him too
@@ldjt6184 I heard she was blindsided. She thought that they ended amically and then he acted shocked. I think I heard that from Nick vial podcast
@@ldjt6184 and people are defending her and giving excuses for her behavior. I still don't understand why if they left together so happy,what happened that she suddenly needed a break?
Wow! Victoria and Greg totally deserve each other.
I just have to say that Victoria is the wooooooooooorst!!!
And so are Shanae and Kate. They made Logan look good with how awful both were.
Eliza needs to spend time with herself to get to know her emotions and what she wants.
Shanae played her cards right so that she was on the show for the entire season. I believe everything was just an act for her!
I don't remember Logan ever being that bad. Maybe when he Bachelorette hopped but I really can't blame him he still hadn't known them for very long.
She's young and wanted the bad boy of the two.
I’m wondering if Kate only got with Logan to get revenge on Shanee for everything she did during Clayton’s season
Lol the “Victoria we knew from Peters season” clip 😂 I really thought this time around Victoria was going to be different But no… I had my hopes. Poor Johnny
Aaron just seemed so robotic and unemotional during the breakup after everything he’s said to her
There were multiple moments yesterday where I was literally cracking up at scenes the Bachelor meant to be serious, they really can’t figure out how to get out of their own way. That being said the hot seat of Michael and Danielle was one of the greatest Bachelor franchise moments ever.
No wonder Justin was skeptical. Now it makes sense.
In a weird way, Logan should be grateful to Kate, the edit could rally have gone badly for him (with Shanae, Gabby and Rachel also all taking swipes at him) but Kate was so awful that I wound up really liking him and want to see him in the next Paradise, I did not see that happening at all and he very easily could of had a villain arc.
You’re so right! He totally looked like an indecisive child going from woman to woman just like with Gabby and Rachel. However, Kate ended up being such a monster that his shenanigans were completely overshadowed. And I mean, honestly, it is paradise. It is pretty appropriate to date around. However, I don’t know if I’ve seen anyone date as many women or be as indecisive as Logan. It didn’t seem like he was truly trying to find his best match. Seemed more like he was constantly looking for something better to come along which is very different. In any case, oh boy did Kate really give that boy a get out of jail free card. Her behavior plus his well thought out response to it put in back in the positive column for sure.
The wheel of fortune word reveal 😂💀🤣
i can’t view eliza as a villain like a lot of the franchise does. I see a confused, naive, maybe even immature young woman who’s never had two guys after her before. She had maybe a day to choose between two guys she barely knew, chose wrong, embarrassed them and herself, and was hurt by it. Did she mess up. Oh yeah. Is she a bad person? I don’t buy that. Let’s keep the villain energy for people who knowingly did wrong
if you love shanae and hate eliza, maybe unpack why that is a bit more 🤔
Absolutely
Agree 💯
She's just super immature, not a bad person at all. She clearly was overwhelmed and felt bad
She hurt 2 men who may have wanted a future with her (unpopular opinion: yes, Justin I think really did like her and I'm glad he rejected her). She needs to get over herself. They both deserve better.
She's an immature, manipulative, gas lighter and she needed to be called out. Can't be playing victim either. Glad the men eventually saw her true colors, got past her looks and moved on. She needs to understand that she can't play with people and get away with it.
I wish they spoke with Andrew 😭
Love love love this fundraiser selection. Thank you for giving us an opportunity to donate and support those in need 💕
The women this season came off looking like CLOWNS. I don't think they could have picked a worse group women for this group of mature and chill guys.
Some guys were bad too but yeah I do agree that most women were not there for the right reasons or were simply bullies
Yeah all of the sane women self eliminated as soon as they saw the train wreck
except serene
Aaron is a control freak. Manipulates. But yeah these women were awful. Mostly.
Very immature, needy group who need therapy STAT
Victoria was confusing & frustrating to watch on Peter's season. Why producers brought her back at the expense of everyone is disappointing. Just when we thought she had changed, she shows us she's still very much the same. She never really owned up to her past misgivings so it'd be difficult to grow & change without that. She has some serious deep rooted issues that need to be handled the right way, as seen in how she jumps from guy to guy (some married to her best friends) like nothing. Before she seriously evaluates herself and takes proper action, unfortunately, many will be collateral damage along the way.
Thank GOODNESS that I didn't invest the time and brain cells to actually watch this BiP season, and THANK YOU Bachelor Fantake for giving us the replay! Good luck Brandon & Serene!!
"Ciao" also means good-bye in italian 🤣
Oh there you are Peter! 😂
"Wow, how dare you? How dare you make me like Logan?" 🤣 Literally the only BIP reaction I've agreed with this season.
This host is spot on. WEEKS FOLLOWING PARADISE, THEY WERE STILL ENGAGED. LOL CIAO ALSO MEANS BYE RIGHT???
Johnny and Gregg are gonna be friends at some point
YAAAAS!!!! She will be single for a very long time.
@@seeleygirl6178 nope, men like hot women they don't care if they're mean or not
victoria and greg will destroy each other they are both emotional manipulators.
excited to watch their downfall 🍿
Victoria and Greg as a couple remind me on Piper and Brendan.
I love Jill and Jacob together
Me too
Facts
I give Victoria and Greg 6 months tops. She's proving herself to be a real piece of work. Consider yourself lucky Johhny to have gotten out when you did.
Still going
Where the heck was Teddi???
I'm sad Flo wasn't able to make a solid connections on the beach. She seems like a lovely person!
she did make a solid connection but it just wasn't gonna work outside of the show
Flu should had went for the Aussie guy! Seem they never even air any convos if them.
*Flo
Great recaps as Alway fantake your office commentary will never get olds🤣❤
they finally showed contestants eating the dinner 😂
EVEN KATE WAS SHOCKED BY V. LOL WHEN KATE SAID SHE TOLD HER FRIENDS IN PRIVATE!!! LOL
I love sitting here going: did they announce who the Bachelor is..... End of the video comes on and:Oh yeah I forgot about Zach 😂😂😂😂
I sooo wanted to hear about Andrew :( The most beautiful sweet guy on bip.. What gives man??
Victoria’s chin implant kills me.
Omg she does?
Once I noticed it, it’s all I could focus on for the whole show.
@@kcairns1 I always thought it looked great on bip but it was so distracting on atfr
Victoria made Kate looked human.
Thanks for another great season, you make it bearable! Your clip choices are so good loved the Monty python
Turns out having one of the best group of guys (excluding Aaron haha) on the beach mixed with one of the worst group of women (excluding multiple women) doesn't end up with a lot of happy couples. Usually the guys are the dumpster fires, so it was interesting to say the least
It’s too bad with so many nice men didn’t get a chance to meet some nice women. I prefer the sweet romance to the drama. Some of these men were really hurt by this experience and that’s not something I want to watch.
@@stellashepherd3229 I think it's shameful how the producers play games with the lives of men and women honestly looking for love. One glaring example is how they allowed Justin to return which devestated Rodney's chances of finding love. Another example was the "situation" with Sally's suitcase and her feeling intimidated enough to go home. There were other examples, but my final one is sending the women away from paradise and watching Olu and the other men being humiliated because the original women were in committed relationships. Ok.. one more but there are many more. Who was the random dude, tall White with a bun who was at the rose ceremony after the ladies returned to Paradise? I have been a fan of the Bachelor Franchise shows since year one but Bachelor in Paradise 2022 was such a mess not to mention the myriad of unexplained lose ends of leading storylines so I am DONE with the Bachelor Franchise shows. I am so disappointed.
@@debbieholliday3635 to answer your question about the dude, I think it was someone from the Australian version like Florence was on.
I love the wheel of fortune cut to !!!! That was amazing !!
Kate’s attempt to say that her critique of Logan was in a female “locker room” context is bogus! She continued to criticize him in ITMs, which will obviously make the cut and Logan would definitely see them as well as the rest ob bachelor nation! Pathetic excuse, I’m not buying it!
Victoria is going to regret it she's so disrespectful
Yeah, her mask fell and everyone saw 😬
If Aaron comes back next season I may quit the show.
I never want to see him on the jungle path again! 😂
Girls, I’m with you. Hate this person 🤬
I can get past the idea of him being there to further his publicity but the pretending to have feelings for anyone and denying that it’s a bro vacation for him is so frustrating. And he gets soooooo upset if anyone threatens his chances at staying suddenly “they’re not there for the right reasons”. The dude is a joke and I’d be thrilled if I never saw his face again.
I died laughing Shanae said she wants a husband but made 0 effort to actually form a serious connection with anyone 😂
Thank god he mentioned the dresses. I was shook. Thank you for these updates because i have no one else to talk to so I pause the video and give my input
Does anyone know why Salley was at the reunion? Lol seemed like another waste of a plane ticket.
I'm sure she got paid.
Exactly. Showed her once🤷🏾♀️
I almost thought we were going to hear another “excuse you what??” 😂
Michael and Danielle…..love them. I was tearing up big time.
johnny and greg kinda look similar... has anyone else noticed that
Well, both are Italian with rhyming last names: (Greg) Grippo and (Johnny) DiFlippo lol. You can't make this ish up!🤣🤣🤣
I had to do a double take during the preview because I thought it was Johnny and wondered why he looked so different 😂