Orange P7 RS Bike Check - Hardtail MTB
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
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Today, I’ll be doing a bike check on my Orange P7RS. I’ll show you the bike in detail, give you my opinion on it, and explain what makes it different from other bikes.
Judging from the comments, it’s clear that a lot of you love the way my P7 looks. I’m glad to hear that because I spent about a week cycling through the colors before reaching the point of no return.
One of the reasons the P7 looks so striking is because it’s made of chromoly, or steel. Steel bikes have skinny tubing, which gives them that simple, bold, and classic look. But steel isn’t all about the looks.
Steel bike frames absorb vibrations, which in many cases your tires and suspension can’t. Creaking, cracking, clicking, whatever-you just don’t feel it on a steel bike, which makes it great for hardtails. You still get the response and rigidity you’d expect, but it doesn’t feel as harsh.
Typically you would expect steel to be heavier than aluminum or
carbon, and yeah that’s usually true. To get the weight down, you need really good steel, and it ain’t cheap. You’ll usually get a lighter bike for the money with carbon or aluminum, but steel isn’t about weight, it’s about…steel. You need to ride one to understand.
So we’ve established that the P7 is made of steel, and that steel is dope, but the most important thing about any bike is the geometry. It’s the one thing you can’t change. I must admit that the geometry on the P7 is great for some things and not so great for others.
Just look at how Orange has categorized it: Hardcore hardtail. With a super slack head angle, low center of gravity, and long reach, the P7 is made to plow through everything in its path. Its angles are so radical that the P7 actually hindered in some ways, but that’s okay when you’re looking for a bike with certain characteristics.
Let me give you a few examples. One notable characteristic of the P7 is its low center of gravity, which provides stability. The P7 is really stable, whether you’re railing corners or drifting around on gravel. The downside? It’s a pedal smacker. I’ve gotten used to it and can keep my pedals out of the way now, but on rocky pedaly sections it can be a challenge to navigate.
Another characteristic of the P7 is the longish wheelbase and reach. This also makes the bike very stable, especially on steep descents, however it also makes it more difficult to bunnyhop. I’m confident that with a little more practice I’ll be able hop on to a picnic table with it, but for now I can’t quite clean it.
A lot of you have said that the P7 looks like it would be great for jumping. It is, but not in the way that you would think. I’ve used the word “stable” to describe the P7, and that’s how it feels in the air. No matter how fast or sketchily you’re jumping or hucking, the P7 pretty much goes into autopilot mode and lands fine. That’s the best way I can describe it. To me, shorter bikes with higher bottom brackets are more prone to botched landings, but they’re also way easier to boost and throw around in the air. Depending on your riding style, mood, or choice of trail, you may prefer one or the other.
So I’ve spent a lot of time talking about how the P7 feels, but not a lot about the components. You can order it in quite a few different configurations, with the P7 RS at the top. It’s got a Rockshox pike, Sram XO drivetrain, Guide brakes, yada yada yada they’re amazing. You can look it up. Let’s talk about the notable component choices.
First of all the Hope hubs are not a very common sight in the USA. The cassette sounds wonderful.
Also, it comes with Maxxis High Roller EXO tires. These are really good tires with really strong sidewalls, which the most abusive of riders will greatly appreciate.
Something I’ve never seen before were these Renthal grips. They’re ridiculously grippy, and feel great with gloves. If you go bare handed though they feel really gummy and it kind of freaks me out.
Finally the P7RS comes with a chain guide. I haven’t installed it, and haven’t needed it. I guess it would add an extra measure of reliability.
Otherwise, I just like riding my P7. There are days when I just really feel like being on a hardtail, and if it’s singletrack I’m riding then the P7 is an easy choice. It’s comfortable for long distances, and it can handle just about anything.
So that’s my P7. Before you ask about anything, check the description for links. I’ve got some big plans for this bike in the spring, since a lot of you guys have been asking what a hardtail can actually take. I’d like to demonstrate that. Until then, thanks for riding me today and I’ll see you next time.
I love how Seth always puts the entire script in the description
2:48 thats how i flip my bike for service
man you must make yourself *need* servicing whenever you *want* to service your bike
WHAM
Suomi finland perkele
WOW
same
Orange bike with Hope hubs, great to see British Engineering being loved over the Pond. 👍
ricoranger2 we do build some wicked bikes over here in the UK, which is great considering most of the world thinks we're a bit retarded in the things we do. Saracen really have my attention in what they're doing at the moment.
Lee Broadley i work in manufacturing in uk (not bikes unfortunately ) but gotta love having pride for uk products especially when the quality is so high like hope stuff.
Seriously. Brits know whats up. I've got a set of Hope tech 3 levers with the e4 calipers and the e4 (I think that's what they are) floating rotors... Best brake on the market for trail/enduro riding. Stopping power is perfect. Modulation is perfect. They are just perfect.
I highly recommend Stanton. Great U.K. bike company
ricoranger2 and renthal bars and grips, they're made near Manchester
The bike is only $ 4,025.00! What a great deal. I only have to sell my car to buy it.
$ 4025 for a hardtail? You really have to be completely obsessed with anything Orange to justify that.
Donald Trump's gargantuan scrotum WHAT A FUCK IS THAT CHANNEL NAME!?!?
thats why for my twelth birthday i ghot an orange zest bike its a junior bike but with adult price 100 gbp well worth it though have great fun on it
2018 $5,107.00 USD :-O
Not really, more like Made in UK $$$$$$ vs Made in Asia $$
RIP Table. Between you body slam and your tire slam it didn't stand a chance.
Savage.
Skills With Phil What's up Phil
Love the videos btw
Skills With Phil 😂😂😂
I like how the bike fell perfectly upside down just waiting to get checked out!
Thumbnail 10/10
CZcams tip: It's all about the thumbnail
Seth's Bike Hacks yes
Seth's Bike Hacks im looking to buy one how heavy is it though
Adam Lafortune thanks
kelly kuru did you ever buy it
Little does he know he’ll never ride it again
What happend?
@@majoromg449 he sold it
Luke Goossens I think he stills owns it, he has several loaner bikes, and I’m pretty sure this is one of them
@@romance361 in one of his bike check videos years ago he mentioned selling it
@@lukegoossens1156 nvm I saw the bike in his latest video from 02.08 (or 08.02) at 11:07
Hey Seth, great video. One thing I really enjoy and appreciate about your content is that you show us your fails and tell us what you have troubles with. I really enjoy all of your content and am very glad to be able to watch your channel. Thanks for all of the work you put into creating. Keep it up!
at first i thought it would be orange in colour
Haha same here
Color
Fat Biker Vaibhav it was orange
Cool Dude not sure about other europeans but i know the british spell it that way
Cool Dude mate British people spell it as colour
Anyone else here after he is selling it? 😵😔
Me!
Me
It didn't sell he's still got it at his house
@@emmetfoster7430 🤦 you don't know what the definition of selling is...
@@emmetfoster7430 yes he still got it at his house but he is SELLING it on a website.
Seth , love your videos , am actually starting a critical mass myself , becuase of how inspired you made me from your videos. thank you
TheWierdkid55 where's your critical mass ????? 😀
Adam I would like to know as well
TheWierdkid55 what's up I'm your twin look at my pic
I need to see if there is one in my area, sounds pretty legit!!!
Who wants to see a carbon sync'r vs orange p7 battle?
It “STEELS” my money
Lol underrated joke
69 likes, nice
Lol
lmao
Bruh
2:50 is the most violent thing i've ever seen in your vids
That picnic table shot is priceless. Thanks for the video and I'm glad that you are going to be doing more hardtail videos.
as a british guy here in uk we do love our hope products. they are so expensive but you almost always see the extra quality in that price. even the seatpost levers are that much better then anything else. really great to see british made bikes and components in the usa!
bro you getting to old to be taking those hard Ass falls. but I enjoy watching you do it..👍
SKO NYC how old is too old?
@@tjnorth210 he's only 30 something
bananas stuff ik that seth is, he’s probably like 33 now, but i was talking about the guy who commented
@@bananasstuff3344 35
I wish I could afford the orange p7 rs
Louie Chi get a rocky Mountain edge 26 it's the same everything but cheaper I have one and love it!
Ashton Gonchar ???? The Edge 26 isn't even close to the same as the P7.
ikr? lol the Ragley Piglet and Marin Pine are far closer to the P7 RS, with their chromoly frames.
dontspam koth well myn is I got rockshox (air) recently new bars shifters derailer basicly everything except for the frame
but the frame is the entire point of getting the P7. The rocky mountain is an XC frame and wouldn't feel anything like a P7. Components are important if you're comparing two bikes from the same discipline but frame choice comes first.
Still enjoying to watch these old videos
Thanks Seth for teaching me and the rest of your channel. You have taught me many lessons on mountain biking!
Hi Seth!
Nice video man, I was actually wondering about that bike. How does it stack up to the Synch'r pro you have? They seem really similar in design choices.
it costs 3 times as much as the sync'r pro so I'd imagine it does slightly better at least.
Ross McCollum im having the same question
yeah I have the same question as well. doesn't look like Seth answers a lot of questions.. to busy riding XD
its cool
I was wondering this same thing myself. leaning towards diamondback but not sure if the sync'r pro is a better all around bike vs P7s.
It's steel, slacker, longer, and has better components.
I really appreciate the subtitles you add to your videos, Seth! Thanks a lot!
It's nice to hear a bike review that doesn't spend 3/4 of the time talking about what the components are. As you mentioned, we can all look that up!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on how it actually rides/feels!
What's happened to you diamondback sync'r pro Seth. Haven't seen it in a while. Also could you do a video on the trek 4900, I love the way that looks. Then again, all your bikes look super nice. Love your content, keep it up and good luck in 2017
Mitchell Henstock I think the syncr was sent to NY so he’d have a bike when he goes up north
Mitchell Henstock how bout good luck in 2018
"I’ve got some big plans for this bike in the spring, since a lot of you guys have been asking what a hardtail can actually take." Can anyone tell me what the result of this was? Video link?
here's the link:
A review I can watch and not get bored, I wish they will send you more bikes to tests, NICE REVIEW
That is a dope bike. Orange make some amazing bikes and hope components are so damn good. Thanks for putting this together. Good to have an overview of how you feel the bike is.
$4074 for a hardtail... better be made with love and world peace as well!
2:48 - that's how i turn around my bike when i'm working on it
Please upload more often. U make great content and it's enjoying to watch
Fantastic build and overview, remind me of the older brodies and current chromag line up of bikes from BC
what happened to the fat ripper i wanna see more of it
That's no way to talk about the dudes girlfriend
lmao thats one of his bmx bikes
TheNoobStevio the fat ripper is the tall bike watch it
Biking With Gavin that's the mongoose
can i still enter the contest
That fall was glorious, I replayed at least 20 times :)
Seth, you are a huge inspiration, you have inspired me to make a 6 foot gap jump on my crappy bike because of the walgoose video, thank you
Make some vlogs using p7
bro you might wanna get your eyes checked that's blue not orange
I.... umm
REALLY HOPE THIS IS SARCASM RN
You sure it's not you, ask most view's they'll say it's orange too
No, that's a bike I believe :)
I get it.
I won't ruin your joke though.
More videos of this bike please, it's a beauty!
I still have my hardtail chromoly bike from the 1990s. With a couple of mods, it still works great.
Is the Raleigh Conan a good MTb for beginners.
How do you plan on going about protecting the frame from rust, especially being that you live near the coast? Obviously keeping it washed and not riding it into a ships wake will help, but are there any coatings or other specialty maintenance supplies on the market to protect and prolong the life of the frame?
well, it's chromoly steel not regular steel, so it does have a lot more resistance to corrosion
Interesting, I hadn't heard of it before. I'll have to check it out.
TheNerdyCanadian not as much as you would expect I have a cro-mo frame bmx bike and regardless of all the drying,cleaning ,and clear coating rust spots are near impossible to prevent
I rode a chro-mo road bike year round when I was a bike messenger in Boston. I never had any issues with rust, and I never washed anything but the drive train.
Joel Jackson It really depends on the alloy - so basically how high the amount of other metals in there is, also the amount of carbon in the steel. There are alloys out there which are strong enough for bikes and do not rust, I guess the P7 at it's price point might be made from that.
Happy to say this bike is built in my home town of Halifax and all I ride is orange, my current set of wheels being a crush. Sometimes I’m allowed out in my dads five29 and that’s always great.
I've wanted this bike since you first showed it on the channel. It's such an awesome looking bike and I think the geometry characteristics would be perfect for my trails. Time to start saving up
Great 👍
Full suspension SUUUUUUCKS!
This comment was made by the hardtail gang.
A hardtail gang egyik magyar tagjától
@@nmbr-4347 Mi magyarok mindenhol ott vagyunk.
Thanks for this video man ! This is exactly what i wanted to hear about Hardtail!
Had a Orange P7 with Bomber Z1 forks in the late 90s in similar setup - have good memories! Jumped well, cornered well, short chanistays, wheelies easily, great fun.
It lithearly costs 3700 my bike cost 200 its crazy
You have a Walmart bike.
Austris Zeidmanis i dont even have bike
@@Cloudrak your bike is garbage, dont talk crap
Itz Collector no need for that is there
STEEL will outlast Carbon and Alu bikes, and it keeps its resale value
Yeah but I've had experience with a norco Ryde 26 which is a steel Dj and it started to rust
Do you like rust? All my steel bikes I had began to rust sooner or later. So no steel for me, please. I do not like rust.
@@ralfrufus6573 spoiler alet: thats a you problem, clean your damn bikes
It will also rust like steel does..I hate rust.
Have a 20year old steel bike. No rust and the best bike I’ve ever bought. I would absolutely buy a P7 over carbon or aluminum.
Gotta love the angry bee sound of Hope hubs.
Who needs a bell.
Seth one thing I love about your videos is that you don't use fake thumbnails , keep it up 😀
why dont you wear knee pads?
Because they're restrictive and not comfortable to use.
MTB Rider of Justice yeah forget safety, also while your at it fuck wearing a seatbelt, that oh so uncomfortable strap is terrible 😂 I'm sorry I'm a bit harsh but it's kind of ridiculous
You don't have to be safe if you don't fall or if you know how fall.
Raoul_s uhhgb
If you get a pair of alright kneepads you wont even notice them like the rest of your clothing.
+Seth's Bike Hacks Dood woot peedles do u hav on thou bik
MTB1013 type normally please
+Bigfoot and Bananaman I thought so but I wasn't sure.
MTB1013 race face maby
raceface chester pedals
more bikechecks pls they are really interesting to watch
I'm almost finished with my application and video for your Diamondback Release!!!!
5:32 is why it is going for $52k
This is Seth’s least popular video
U are watching this because u are bored in quarantine ?
Thanos Thanos yep
that crash was a lot more aggressive than i expected love the review man i love this kind of video
looking forward to the demo Seth,
Did I win
Just started up a CZcams channel, can you please check it out?
The p7 is a great little bike, but I definitely prefer my full sus 😊
Potentially my next bike. So good looking!
Yay!! I've been waiting for this video!
just bought my first full suspension bike before, pretty hyped about it, It's a haibike q. am 7.05 2016 in yellow it's so nice
Wow as a proponent of the AM hard tail I was super stoked to see this review. Depending on how the bike is configured could be almost the Swiss army knife of bikes. Something so special about a hardtail done right.
Love that trick on table. I've got to check it out
great video, love that bike! would love to see some more videos on repairing and replacing parts on bikes
Nice video Seth! It's good to see Orange and Hope being ridden in the US too
another awesome video Seth keep it up
YES! FINALLY! LOVE YOU SETH
I love it when I see guys on Seth's channel or GMBN completely dork a section. It makes me feel better about myself XD
Another great vid Seth keep it up
I love your bike hacks videos
Your videos are awesome man! Keep it up!
Awesome video as usual that's how a proper bike check looks like... P7 is a real beast! :)
great video, I love orange there's just something about the bikes I like, I ride an 09 orange patriot full suspension and i love it
Good shit Seth. Keep the good videos coming man
I crash a lot, you and your videos Inspire me to keep going. Am 37 and have never had so many bruised and scraped knees lol
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Just had my P7 29er RS in Orange for my 50th birthday. Yep, us old uns in the UK can still hack it. 😝🤘🏻
my DiamondBack is 4130 chromei love it, my old mosh 2 star was steel bmx and i loved it
just got a p7 29er
loving it so far
Amazing MTB channel!
that fall was gnarly
Awesome, I love my Specialized P.2 CroMo!!! I think I am going to be looking for a CroMo 29er or a 27.5+ for my next bike. Since we live in FL. I think it'll be perfect for our trails here.
Ouch! That bunny hop fall looked brutal. But Seth, you are such a champ at bailing.
I've been using the orange clockwork evo 120 comp for the past few months and its a pretty good trail bike.
very nice review man!!
That was a wicked OTB 😂, you we're certainly committed. Glad you walked away ok 😎
We would love to see someone rip that down a sick flow trail or some fast single track. Looks like more its intended purpose than what was featured in the video. Not sure if Orange would make a picnic table specific bike. But keep up the sick videos, thanks for the content!
Loving the steel frame kudos. I have an MTB frame made from supertherm BMX tubing and it's so supple. Peace dude, love your work.
you have inspired me. i'm getting that bike! im likely to build from frame up because i can't afford a full bike.
hey seth! love the channel. Greetings from vermont!
I love your vlogs and that bike too
It would be awesome if you did a video on how to have fun on your bike in the winter. I know you don't live in these conditions but it would still be awesome
Great review Seth. I'd love you to do a comparison between the P7 and Crush S. Im going to get one as soon as I can decide which one to buy. Bring back your begineer mountain bike series👍
Great vid! I love that bike.
I love your videos man bro dude.
I really like that bike and your videos
it looks so nice.