Austro-Hungarian Navy in WW1
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0:19 I shorten the name here and in the rest of the video to Imperial navy, but the full name of the navy was, "Austro-Hungarian Navy", "Imperial and Royal War Navy", " Kaiserliche und Königliche Kriegsmarine" or just "k.u.k. Kriegsmarine".
0:31 USA had lots of Heavy ships like dreadnoughts however lacked sufficient light ships like destroyers. Russia on the other hand had lots of light ships but no heavy ships at the start of the war.
1:06 I am rounding up in these calculations.
1:58 Or even prior to then from northern Italy when Venice and the surrounding area was under the Habsburg control.
2:18 The colors represent different ethnicities living in that part of the empire and the black stripes represent sizable German settlements in those areas.
2:29 However anti-air was developed later in the war.
2:32 Stokers- People who stoke the fire, basically add coal in to the engine.
4:07 So fuel isn't wasted.
4:19 However the navy did get a large boost to its budget prior to the outbreak of WW1.
4:32 Plus the Austro-Hungarian Navy was much more balanced.
5:03 Technically the triple alliance never broken up officially until the Italian deceleration of war in 1915. However it was clear by 1910 that Italy wasn't a reliable ally and Germany and Austria-Hungary treated her as such.
5:24 At least that's what the Austro-Hungarian military staff thought.
5:51 Technically the triple alliance was just a defensive pact so Italy didn't break any "promises" as Austria-Hungary and Germany where technically the aggressors in WW1. However they did declare war on them later so you know ...
7:12 Where the Admiral Miklós Horthy later to be the regent of Hungary came to prominence.
7:22 Austria-Hungary was also given some submarines (some even with German crew) from the Germans to use in the Mediterranean.
7:38 There was the naval Cattaro Mutiny before the end of the war but this involved only about 3% of the Imperial naval staff so it can be said there wasn't much support for it.
#History #OperationOdysseus #AustriaHungary #NavalHistory
For anyone wondering: the first song playing in the background is "Unter der Admiralsflagge" by Julius Fucik and the second is "Unter dem Doppeladler Marsch" by Josef Franz Wagner.
There's an achievement in HOI4 for having a battleship at all as Austria-Hungary
Christ it's hard to even get a navy now with man the guns if you're a landlocked minor
stop play hoi4
@@paragothius3466 no stop playing fortnite
@@paragothius3466 stop playing fartnite
what’s the name, let me guess it’s a pun
Austro-Hungarian Navy!? Very unique topic, great job M.Laser!
You can develop on this kind of subjects dealing with other less unknown fleets.
He means with Austro-Hungarian Navy the K.u.K. Kriegsmarine
That was the most canned compliment ever
Never saw you here mate.
The arm man!
Fun Fact
There is a single boat in budapest that used to be a part of Austro-Hungarian Navy during WW1. It serves as a museum ship and still floats on the danube
Her name is SMS Leitha in case somebody is wondering, and she is only in Budapest during the summer in case somebody wants to visit.
LeeroyThePol there is/was a austro hungarian dreadnought in my city that tehnicly belonged to kingdom of croats slovens and serbs but was blown up by italians
And in Serbia their lays whats left the ship the SMS Bodrog against the shore deteriorating. This ship may have actually fired the oping shots of ww1
Another fun fact: Captain von Trapp in the film The Sound of Music was a real person who was a submarine commander
@@valter14725 Wait, they refloated Viribus Unitis?
The Austro-Hungarian empire was really unique, knew very close to nothing about their navy before watching your video. Great detailed video! Good explanation of the strategy
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL DUDE!
My great grandfather was a croat and in the Austro Hungarian navy and he died in a battle,greate video
I am obsessed with Austria-Hungary. It’s so fascinating yet so often overlooked!
Hey, atleast the Austro-Hungarian navy had some badass admirals like Tegethoff, Horthy and Anton Haus
Now we have a evil Justin y
*-god fucking dammit-*
Horthy like the regent that refused to give up power?
Horthy was not even anyone during the austro hungarian empire
@@tothkoppany6548 yes. Miklos Horthy was a person. Lol
@@tothkoppany6548 He was the commander in chief of the Austro-Hungarian Navy at the end of the war lol
All those different languages, it must have harmed their ability to react quickly. Great video!
Stefan Milo this issue was solved by assigning each individual sailor their own personal translator to feed and take care of while on duty.
@@midshipman8654 That would honestly make a good sketch for a comedy.
Might be funny at the first sight. But the truth is that those people where offten multilingual. For example in our region was absolutely normal that all people spoke German, hungarian, slovak. If you speak slovak you understand 95% of czech and with a liitle bit of effort you easily learn serbocroat, polish, slovene or russian. I personaly speak 5 languages and its not a big deal here.
Most people had to learn German and many were multilingual.
It was really not uncommon for someone to be able to speak German, Serbian, Hungarian and French for example.
Especially the more educated Officer Staff would know at least 3 languages.
I bet they knew what abandon ship meant in any language...
Fun fact: even landlocked Czechoslovakia had a navy (river navy), it had few patrol boats, few gunboats and some minelayers, everything of it were from WW1 Austro-Hungarian navy. As Cezchoslovakia was a industrial superpower (in WW1 most of ships were build in todays Czech republic) , it even made small ships for export. It's biggest ship called Prsident Masaryk was one of the biggest and heaviest river ships ever build and because of that, Czechoslovakia became a Danube superpower (alongside with Yougoslavia, Hungary and Romania). It was also based on WW1 Austro-Hungarian Wels class monitor. It was captured by Germans and renamed Bechelaren. It's main objective was to protect river convoys in Yougoslavia against the partisans and it's biggest action was in Austria, where it fought with few Soviet gunboats, it sunk 2. After the war, it became a civil ship, as Warsaw pact decided, that only Soviet union will have river navy. In cold war, it was scrapped...
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A lot of people forget how important the Austrio-Hungarian coastline was, we often think of the vast inland parts of the Empire and forget the seaports of Croatia and Dalmatia
Dang I learned a lot from this.
Of course it is :D
No replies?
This is the most in depth video on the K.u.K Kriegsmarine i've ever seen! Thank you!
Germans as gunners etc.. thats both interesting and hilarious
Germans = Austrians cause we speak somewhat German (we speak better German ;) )
@@michaelraith9481 Yes, I know he meant "German" speaking. I was talking about the fact that they used different ethnicities in different roles. Just a fun titbit.
@@michaelraith9481 "better"
@@hasmatiks Yes if you've ever read the Hunger Games I think AH Empire is closest thing we've had to a real life Panem.
@@michaelraith9481 actually not really. The germans in Bohemia where not Austrians (by what ever "Austrians" define there identity these days)
For anyone wondering: the first song playing in the background is "Unter der Admiralsflagge" by Julius Fucik and the second is "Unter dem Doppeladler Marsch" by Josef Franz Wagner.
By the way if you're reading this M.Laser, I loved the video, but if it isn't too much trouble could you put the music you use in the description for those few people like myself? Too many people forget to do so, and I end up spending half an hour trying to find that one song that I can't get out of my head. Anyways, it's your channel so do what you want with it, just thought I'd ask.
A third of it's personnel were Croats and many Czechs served as machinests.
kinda funny imagining 9 Languages spoken on a Ship xD
“YOU DER SCHIESSE!” “NYET!” “VAT ZA?!”
@@501ststormtrooper9 That barely makes any sense.
crazy potato ok
@@Pajdas610 makes sense on that ship
@@ls200076 Read his comment again and tell me if anyone would actually speak like that. What is "YOU DER SCHIESSE!" “NYET!” “VAT ZA?!” supposed to mean? The only thing it sounds like is someone trying to imitate languages poorly which is not comedic at all.
Your way to make maps is really good! Thanks for the rather rare topic on WWI!
Lol, all the people commenting that their great grandpa served in the navy back then. maybe all of us who had family members in the Austro-Hungarian Navy should make a meetup. xD
I am trying to visualize an Austrian-Hungarian-Chech-Croatian-Romanian meeting...
@@jurisprudens blood maybe?
@@leonmesquita1690 0
@@jurisprudens Easy: The Hungarians bring lunch, the Austrians desert, the Czech bring the beer, the Romanians bring the music and the Croatians organise a nice beach location.
Everyone brings their own homemade spirits and the party is complete.
"Do prdele!"
lmao
It very rare to find a video that teaches you something completely new. I knew nothing about this. Awesome video :D
welp, i as a austrian history nerd knew we had something you can call a "navy" but it was more usefull than thought!
The Austrian Navy was actually surprisingly potent earlier in the German War against Italy and Prussia. Admiral Tegethoff (then not admiral yet), was a naval genius and one of the most skilled commanders of his time.
Best video on the subject. Keep doing them ! You definitely deserve more subs but I guess you should upload more frequently.
Finally! I have been waiting for a video like this to come out.. I think this topic is very underrated, even in my city Pula which was the main naval base for the whole navy.
Narednik Đubo no pula isnt your city pula is my city
Oh yeah fun fact torpedo vas first invented in Croatia in Rijeka few hunderd Years before the war
*Fiume
@@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 L + italian
Austro-Hungarian navy went on patrol all over the world before WW1. They also had a marine detachment in stationed in Peking.
Welp at least now I can say I was a sub when you were still small. Amazing video.
It was a very interesting video, thank you for your research and time put to that viedo. That navy is interesting since there were also relevant historical people involved in the Austro-Hungarian navy, like Miklós Horthy and Georg Von Trapp. It would be interesting a video of the Ottoman navy in WW1 also.
This is video was a surprise to me, a very welcome one btw You just won one more subscriber =)
Love the vid man!
The Radetzky class was an excellent example of late pre Dreadnought design. The Tegetthoffs were also very capable Dreadnoughts, apart from the one that was built at a shipyard that wasn't qualified enough and had no business building battleships.
I've always been fascinated by the Austria-Hungarian navy but learned a lot I didn't know here. Excellent.
There are so many parts to the World Wars that people are simply never taught about. Thank you for enlightening me on something I was totally ignorant of before. You earned a sub :)
Lambert2191 i have a question before this video if someone were to ask you about the austro hungarian navy what would you have said?
@@nordic5628 can I comment on this, I honestly don't know I thought thier navy was basically non existent, but after seeing this video I thought that thier navy was strong enough to counter with Britain and maybe defeat them.
Interesting but I wish this would be an introductory video and that you guys would delve into the topic more deeply, like explaining the ship classes, the battles fought as well as the officers and men that took part in them. Thanks.
Thanks, now I got a topic for my uni paper!
8th new channel I sub'd to since watching Opy Ody from the beginning.
-Jake
And now the Croatian navy is not even a shadow of what the AH navy was
No wonder. Croatia is just one bit of the whole Austro-Hungarian Empire and has less ressources and industrial capacity. Also the navies of all former powerfull nations are just a shadow of their formers self by numbers.
Well, it belongs to a nation with 10 percent the population...
Sad, we should build frigates.
And Hungarian navy is... Oh wait
Not really needed these days since Italy is in NATO as we are, and our main potential enemy has no access to the Adriatic at all
Admiral Horthy: Oh yeah, I can still remember
Good to see k.u.k finally getting some mention... you could start with Tegethoff, and battle of Lissa, which was the beginning of the rise of the imperial navy, as well as of the episodes with sinking of Szent Istvan, and later, Viribus Unitis in Pula..which both act like a real, but also symbolic loss
Greetings from Pula, once the Fleet base of the imperial navy :)
*Pola
At 0:31, one small note: the Japanese navy was the 4th largest navy in the world, due to the six six Fleet concept.
Cool video! Can you cover the Swiss navy during the war of 1812?
Great video! Greetings from Pula, the home port of the Austro-Hungarian navy and the home of the Von Trapp! (The good captain vas stationed in Pula and lived there with his first wife)
Great city... It means dick in romanian... Still great city
I swear the Romanians changed the meaning of the word pula just to fuck with Austro-Hungary government
They also have a village called "Fucking" in Austria and a village called 'Wank"in Germany
*Pola
@@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 Pola is the Italian name for it. Currently it's named Pula cos that is the Croatian name for that city.
The tegetthoffs were amazing btw
Something many CZcams users should understand is that the guy who made this video probably had to read a couple of books in order to get the information he was later able to resume in a 9 minutes video. Great job, my friend! Keep going!
Came because of Oversimplified. Subscribed because the fantastic content..
Such a sad story 😥
One of my favorite movies is based on a book by Maria von Trapp. She married Admiral von Trapp in 1939 or so. He had been very successful in WWI controlling Austrian subs and was wanted for the navy of the 3rd reich but instead escaped to Switzerland. The movie was called The Sound of Music.
I was so surprised when i visited Franz Ferdinand museum in Artstetten castle, to find multiple rooms filled with pictures and ship models of the Austro-Hungarian navy. Before that i thought that they had only few small ships. Thank you for this video to let other people know that Austro-Hungaria had a real navy :D
Their naval power is overshadowed due to UK France Japan USA Russia Germany was main 6 and 5 were in allies which made central powers navy generally overshadowed because they couldn't do much
In 1940 Norway used an Austro Hungarian gun, some decades old, to smash a German cruiser at near point blank range.
romanbrough
The Blutcher
When you have two modern dreadnaughts that could seriously damage the Italian navy, but they get sunk by two torpedo boats with displacement of literally 80 tonnes combined
They had 4 and 1 got sunk, but whatever. It made no impact in the war at large by then. Even a succesful breaking of the Otranto blockade wouldnt have amounted to much.
@@egoalter1276 Thanks, I didn't do that much research on that topic. I only knew that the Austrian navy was actually better than the Italian, but the Austrians refused to use it offensively.
@@patrikcath1025It wasnt bettr than the Italian navy. It had less modern dreadnoughts, and a significant portion of its light cruisers were greviusly outdated.
Like if you agree that the Austrian Hungarians had some if the best looking ships in the Great War era...
Operation Odysseus under way!
I have the battleship SMS Viribus Unitis and destroyer sms tarta in world of warships! It’s good to see that Austrian warships are being added to the game. Normally their navy is overlooked.
never thought i would see the A-H be competant at something, and i never expected that thing to be their navy.
You forget to say that Austria lost two battleship sunk by italian torpedoboat
This was cool.
My grandfather was on a U.S. sub chaser out of Grotton,Conn. during WW1.
Toward the end of the war, his sub chasers were shipped to the Adriatic.
At the end of the war, the A-H pre dreadnought Zrinyi surrendered to the Americans.(better than to the Italians)
He spent the end of 1918 and most of 1919 aboard her.
#OperationOdysseus GO!!
Every now and again I remember these guys weren’t landlocked and were semi-decent at their jobs.
As a Danube empire, this video needs to have info or at least mention for Danube river fleet. It was very formidable and first shots of WWI are shot from one of this ships to Belgrade. But great video
There were something like 40 riverine vessels of varius size in the KuK Kriegsmarines commission. Rather significant indeed.
Captain Georg Ritter Von Trapp, of "The Sound of Music" fame, had been a captain in the Imperial Navy, which may have been its biggest PR victory.
One more thing: Only hours after the Italians joined the war, some Austro-Hungarian ships were alredy bombarding Venice, while the Italian officers were sleeping.
A good series of books about the Austro-Hungarian navy is the Otto Prohaska historical fiction by John Biggins, staring with "A Sailor for Austria." It should also be noted that Herr von Trapp in the movie "The Sound of Music" was a famous Austro-Hungarian WW1 submarine captain in real life..
Ohh yeah this thing existed too
Surprising to see a small channel with a mic that doesn’t sound like a Boeing 747 going off in the background
Very interesting
The Ganz Danubius naval yards in Fiume were perfectly capable of constructing state of the art vessels, what the empire lacked was docks of sufficient size for large tonnage battleships. This was remedied with floating docks during the war, but it was much too late by then.
The k.u.k. navy had a floating dry dock for ships like the Szent István ?
@@gertvanderhorst2890 No, the Tegethoff class was built in landbased drydocs constructed specifically for the porpouse of building them. The floating drydocs were ordered from germany for the follow on ersatz monarch design, and the prospective battlecruiser and fast battleship studies.
My great great grandfather was in the Austro Hungarian navy,and was from the Hungarian part of Transylvania.
Last time I saw your channel you didnt even have 1k subs congrats
@@MLaserHistory ill see you at 10k congrats
Miklos Horthy, the finest admiral of the realm.
TheCard -Tosser And the “Ruler” of Hungary from 1920-1944
@@iDeathMaximuMII And a criminal :)
Please do about the ottoman navy during ww1 plz
Dont people at least remember Capt. Von Trapp?
They mostly remember his wife Maria.
Wrong war?
@@user-ri8wb5nc1q The real Capt. Von Trapp was actually a very successful submarine commander in the Austro-Hungarian navy during WWI. That's why, in the film Sound of Music, the Germans are intent on "recruiting" him for their navy; they presumably wanted to put him in command of a new U-boat.
@@user-ri8wb5nc1q no, it was WWI he served in.
I stand corrected!
the subtitles are nice
At 0:43 he seams to have added Switzerland. Yes the greatest naval power
And there's are game called ''Ultimate Admiral Dreadnought'' where you'll be able to play as them. I can't wait!!
As an American of Austrian descent, I thoroughly enjoyed your research for this. Thank you.
Very rare topic, much wow
Austrian navy also had a dozen of Monitors, based on the US Civil war ships, regrouped under the "Danube Navy", which provided a great help to the Landwehr by patroling the rivers in ennemy territories, and protecting bridges while troops were crossing them. Once again, these Austro-Hungarian did it "exotic" ! ;)
And that, is why the dude in the Sound of Music was a captain in the Austrian navy, an otherwise landlocked country.
Back in time I go
Only thing i remembered at the start of the video was the szent istvan.
Now i know something.
Lol neat, which submarine had the Von Trapp on it? Bet they could carry a tune or was it all Maria?
Great video!
Sorry to poit out, but I am sure that Italy has 3 drednought in active service in1914, 3 more will enter service by the end of the war, and was planning 4 superdrednought (only 1 built by 1919).
Italy had a total of 6 dreadnoughts to the AH 4 eventually I belive, but in 1914 some of them were under construction.
Similarly the 4 Ersatz Monarchs only had their guns built.
😭Good old times
I never thought that they had one😂😂
Be interesting to compare the total naval budget to the miles of coast. They had coast, yes, but they could fight many a war without it being a factor, unlike Italy or England.
To this day the original anchors of the AH battleships Viribus Unitis and Teghetoff are in front of the ministry of the Italian Navy in Rome as prey of war.
My great great grand uncle commanded the Àrpad and a Battleship division
Ahead of their time too, along with the Russians they opted for three gun turrets on their dreadnoughts. The Americans would later adopt this in their standard battleships and the later modern WW2 battleships like the Iowa Class.
Just wondering how little England where I am from did back in the day, I seem to recall we had the largest submarine fleet in the world
Remember these good old times
As im related to the Habsburgs i find thid very intresting. one thing of note because the Austrians didnt plan to have long distance operations fuel stores were smaller (on dreadnaughts at least) where they carried more guns and more ammunition. not sure why but we chose more guns of smaller calibur to put out more rounds on target vs having larger guns with less ammumition and longer reload. its very intresting
Du willst also ernsthaft erzählen, dass ein zufälliger Animeverrückter auf CZcams, ein Habsburger sein soll ?
My glourius navy!!
I often wonder how WW1 would've turned out had Italy joined the Central Powers. I hadn't considered the naval aspect and while the Allies would've still had naval superiority it seems clear that they would've been stretched thin having to defend a much larger area. Had the Mediterranean become contested it would've been crippling.
Excellent topic it's something everyone forgets also it's another great example of how much of a mess AH was.
buster117 still better than the things today
interesting how inflation was in Austria-Hungary empire, before and until the end of WWI
Approximately, converted to today's EUR value (05/2023), the Austro-Hungarian "Krone"(Crown) would be worth in today's Euros:
1 Kr. 1913 = € 5.65 in 2023.
1 Kr. 1914 = € 5.58 in 2023.
1 Kr. 1915 = € 4.15 in 2023.
1 Kr. 1916 = €3.33 in 2023.
1 Kr. 1917 = € 2.61 in 2023.
1 Kr. 1918/19. = € 1.12 in 2023.
Newspapers cost 4 hellers (heller is 1/100 Kr, so it is 0.04 Kronen) in 1900, 12 hellers in January 1919 (3x)
Tram ticket in Vienna: 1913 = 19 heller, 1918 = 40 heller.
Btw, the first Kingdom SHS ("Yugoslavia") dinars were worth 4 Kr., about 4.5 EUR
So, according to info in this video, the budget of the Austro-Hungarian Navy in 1900 was about 18 million Krone, i.e. about 144 million in Euros 2023 (approx).
- Italian navy budget in 1900 was 90 million Kr, i.e. 720 millions € ( approx)
- British navy budget 1900: 550 million Kr., i.e 4.5 billion € ( approx).
I knew austria hungary had a navy ever since I found out Miklos Horthy was an admiral
I was thinking, it does allow more for departmental discipline. So if you want to discipline someone, you have no choice but to go through that departments command structure as you may not know the language of that department.
My great great uncle served on Viribus Unitis as the first officer under admiral Miklos Horthy actually :D Im very proud that my family fought for the Emperor and didnt betray the monarchy unlike some Czechs
I have recently seen the anchor of the Viribus Unitis and the Tegethoff at a museum in Venice.
The Czechs did great
Be grateful he wasn't on the ship when we sunk it on November 30th, 1918. I'm sure your grandpa and most enlisted men were not, but the Austro-Hungarian naval officers were mostly a bunch of cowards. They never even sailed out of port during the war.
In fact, the anchor of the Viribus Unitis is still kept in my city of Venice.
What is your coat of arms avatar about ? M. Laser is your real name ?
Every time I hear about an forgotten aspect of Austria-Hungary I don't laugh but feel unspeakably sad