Nileshji u have no idea how happy my aai is after seeing this, which I wanted to show her since year even acting like u in Ur English video to make her understand... Thanku from Marathi Manus...🙏
I am a very recent addition to your large following. Your knowledge is unique and your attempt to establish reality regarding ancient Indian history is most appreciated. No reward or awArd is sufficient. Coming to end of dwapara yug and submerging of dwaraka about 7000 years Ago I recently saw a clipping regarding NASA finding a big crator formed by a meteorite in Gujarat which was dated back to 6900 years back. Is it a coincidence.
Nilesh Ji it was great to see you talking in Marathi. Though I don't understand the Marathi language but it would certainly have reached a much greater audience than English. I request you to do more talks in Marathi and Hindi so that it can reach more people.
नमस्कार निलेशदादा तूम्ही ज्या सहजतेने विश्लेषण करता प्राचीन सभ्येतेतील घटनाकाळाचे ते ऐकणं पर्वणीच असते. त्यासाठी खूप खूप धन्यवाद आणि तूमचं खूप खूप कौतुकदेखील!! माझा एक प्रश्न आहे. तुमच्या अनेक संवादात वसिष्ठ-्अरूंधतीचा संदर्भ ऐकायला मिळतो. व्यासमहर्षींनी युद्धाच्या आदल्या दिवशी ज्या खगोलिय स्थितीबाबत विधान केले आहे ती स्थिती किती कालपर्यंत अस्तित्वात होती हे कळू शकेल का? शक्य असल्यास कृपया सांगा... विनंती आहे! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sir, I use to see the Western narrative videos of AIT and then look for the answers in Indic narrative videos. Still I find it hard to counter some of the arguments presented by AIT presenters. 1. The main argument they present now a days is based on genetics. They say Y chromosome R1a gene found in East Europe, southern Russia and India, has come from invasion as oldest sample was found in Ukraine, from 5000-3000 BC. But Abhijit Chavda has presented a research which says that the R1a gene originated in India around 15000BC. Then AIT people say no other Indian gene is found in Eurasians. So Out of India theory is false. They also say R1a is found more in Brahmins and higher castes based on David Reich's research data. How to counter this? 2. Your dates of Ramayana and Mahabharata are based on astronomical data. I agree with this but is there any Archeological evidence like ruins to back these dates (except Dwarka)? We have found Saraswati civilisation which at most dates back to 8000BC and some pottery cultures. Though humans have inhabited India for atleast 80000 years. Still no evidence of advanced old civilisation from 15000 years ago. 3. Why is it still in progress to decipher Indus script if it is part of Indian civilisation? Why they are so distinct from the vedic culture after 1000BC? There is a great discontinuity. No burnt brick structure has been found between 1000BC till Mahajanpada/Mauryans in 400BC, only mud houses. The people were considered tribes. There are no temples found, also very less major Hindu religious practice evidence has been found in Saraswati civilisation (though Shiv ling was found). One point said by Witzel was the fire pits found there were not used for Yajya as they were different from those mentioned in Vedas. They were probably used for cooking as some burnt animal remains have been found in them. One study found that the people used to eat meat heavily like pig, cattle, buffalo, goat, chicken based on lipids found there. The leftist argument is put that the people were secular. The Indus civilisation has more been associated with Dravidian civilisation based on: a. Script more like Tamil. b. Non-Vegetarian aspect. c. Jalaikattu represented on a seal. Recently, IIT KGP did study which suggests that due to climate change the people migrated east in Ganges plains. But how they forgot their earlier lifestyle, why is it so different? 4. They also present the argument that spoked wheels were not present in Saraswati civilisation. This can be false because I have seen some indirect evidences of spoked wheel. a. In British museum, there is a small toy brass spoked wheel made by early wax casting method, from 3000BC b. A terracotta toy wheel with spoke impressions has been found. c. The Indus script has spoked wheel symbol, famous one on Dholavira sign board. Still I am not aware of direct evidence of spoked wheel. The Sinauli Chariots have solid copper decorated wheels. It is possible that it was ritualistic chariot, not practical one. Earliest evidence of spoked is found in Kazakhstan from 2100BC. Answer to these arguments will for sure shatter Aryan Migration Theory.
@@adityanarayan3909 As for genetics, it is possible that R1a gene came not with aryans but with later rulers like Kushans, Huns and possibly Turks. As for more gene in higher caste, it is possibly due to fact that higher caste people lived in urban centres where foreigners more came in contact, while lower caste lived in villages. Genetics is AIT's main strength but it is very flawed. Even if you agree with AIT, it is hard to explain why the aryans adopted Shiva as supreme god which was not their god according to westerners. Vedas can be looked in two ways 1. It is very old, according to Oak sir 30000 years probably. Therefore it doesn't mention Shiva, only basic devas of Swarga like Agni, Indra etc. are prayed. Shiva is in form of Rudra and not prominent. 2. Vedas were brought by Aryans which gods similar to greek gods like zeus or Indra. Then they blend with Indus valley culture and we have present day Hinduism. The western scholars also follow tree model of indo-european languages which is very misleading because it says languages can only diverge which is not true as two languages can also combine eg. Urdu from Persian and Hindi. But it is very hard to accept that the 'superior' aryans as they western scholars say, adopted practices of Indus people like 1. Meditation- the famous statue of beard man meditating is very similar to Buddha's posture of meditation. It is most important part of yogi's and rishi's life. Even Shiva and Vishnu have same posture of chanting Om. Why aryans adopted this? 2. Yoga postures have been found in Indus valley. The yoga is a medium to connect with the Universe and nature. It is important for yogi. Vedas were written by rishi's and yogi's. How aryans adopted this? 3. Sindur in women statues has been found. Why aryans adopted this? The conclusion is Either today's Sanatan is more derived from Saraswati Civilisation rather than aryans 'if AIT is true'. Or AIT is false, which explains everything much easily. Also majority of today's Indian people DNA matches with Saraswati people.
@@adityanarayan3909 It is very hard to extract DNA from bodies found in India because of very hot climate and rainy season which doesn't help preservation. Everyone agrees that.
@@ProtiumPower We have found the DNA of skeletons in rakhigarhi and harappan sites, so it's not difficult to extract DNA from the bodies found in India. And we have found that the DNA samples matches with Dravidian. So I think the DNA found in sanauli must be aryan one.
Ek Teesmar Khan Nilesh Oak Hai , bolta hai 7000 varsh pehle Mahabharat hua aur 14000 varsh pehle Ramayan hua , Tumlogo ko shaastro ki kaal ganana se kya appatti hai ? Jab swayam shaastro ne bataya hai ki kab Yeh sab hua toh tumlog kiu Computer aur Machine leke pahunch jate ho . Pehle ke saare Avtaari Acharya aur Abhi saare Pramanik Acharya hamesha Kehte hai ki Mahabharat 5000 varsh pehle hua aur Ramayan kalp bhed se 1 Crore se 8 lakh varsh pehle hua , toh fir tumlog apne bekar ke so called scientific methods leke kiu pahuch jate ho . Jis Acharya aur Guru Parampara se Shaastro tum tak pahuche unki baat kiu nhi mante . Shaastro ki baat Guru , Acharya aur Rishio ke mat se manoge na , tum apna dimaag kiu lagate ho , tumhare saare so called scientific equipment kaal aur galat dristikon ke adhin hai , satya sirf shaastra chakshu se jana jata hai Machine se nhi , Machine Bohot se assumption pe chalti hai jo case to case galat bhi ho sakta hai , lekin sab jante hai ki Shaastro ki baat 100% Perfect hai. Jaise koi Research Globally Recognise hone ke liye saare Top Scholars usse approval dete hai weshe hi Pehle yeh saare Nilesh Oak jaise Videsh Gaami patit hindu apna Kal ganana kisi Parampara Parpt Pramanik Acharya se certify karaye fir ham inki aage ki baat sunenge . Yeshe Nilesh Oak jeshe hi Aryabhatta bhi hua tha jo apne siddhant ko kisi Pramanik Acharya aur Rishio se Approval nhi karwa paya tha kiuki uska siddhant Galat aur Shaastro ke viruddh tha , aur unke siddhant ko Lall aur Varahmihir ne Uske anuyayi se shaastrat karke dhuast kar diya tha .Yehlog Adi Shankaracharya, Madhavacharya , Vallabhacharya se bade ho gaye kya . Ab yeh mat bolna ki 1 Crore varsh pehle Ramayan nhi ho sakti kiuki tab sab Bandar the 😂 , Yeh Evolution, Stone Age , Iron Age , Vedic Age , Middle Age , Modern Age sab scam hai , agar tum Hindu Ho toh Shaastro ke pati aastha hona padega , agar aastha hai toh yeh bhi manna hoga ki shaaatra apourushya hai , Manu Satrupa hamare Adi Mata Pita the , bandar Bhalu nhi 😂 , ham Tumlogo jaise Bandar putra nhi Isswar aur Rishio ki santane hai . Shaastro ki Kaal Ganana Janna ho toh shaastro ke siddhant se jano apna bekar ka theories mat do . Tumhare Theories Tumhare Marne ke baad Sarega koi nhi puchega jaise Arya Samaj ko koi bhi Hindu hi nhi manta kiuki woh bhi shaaatra viruddh hai .
Nileshji u have no idea how happy my aai is after seeing this, which I wanted to show her since year even acting like u in Ur English video to make her understand... Thanku from Marathi Manus...🙏
निलेश सर तुम्ही इतिहास शोधून स्वतः इतिहास रचणार आहात. तुमच्या कामाला १००%यश येवो ही मी ईश्वरचरणी प्रार्थना करतो.आणि खूप शुभेच्छा 💐
Dying to hear when it becomes part of school, academic history.!!!
Finally in Marathi 🙏
I am a very recent addition to your large following. Your knowledge is unique and your attempt to establish reality regarding ancient Indian history is most appreciated. No reward or awArd is sufficient. Coming to end of dwapara yug and submerging of dwaraka about 7000 years Ago I recently saw a clipping regarding NASA finding a big crator formed by a meteorite in Gujarat which was dated back to 6900 years back. Is it a coincidence.
Namaskar
Let me know about the Gujrath crator of 6900 BP
Thank you for the complimens.
Nileshoak.com
सर्व पुस्तके पण मराठीत येऊ देत, मराठीतून ऐकायला खूपच छान वाटते आहे
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nilesh Ji it was great to see you talking in Marathi. Though I don't understand the Marathi language but it would certainly have reached a much greater audience than English. I request you to do more talks in Marathi and Hindi so that it can reach more people.
Thank you.
नमस्कार निलेशदादा
तूम्ही ज्या सहजतेने विश्लेषण करता प्राचीन सभ्येतेतील घटनाकाळाचे ते ऐकणं पर्वणीच असते.
त्यासाठी खूप खूप धन्यवाद आणि तूमचं खूप खूप कौतुकदेखील!!
माझा एक प्रश्न आहे.
तुमच्या अनेक संवादात वसिष्ठ-्अरूंधतीचा संदर्भ ऐकायला मिळतो.
व्यासमहर्षींनी युद्धाच्या आदल्या दिवशी ज्या खगोलिय स्थितीबाबत विधान केले आहे ती स्थिती किती कालपर्यंत अस्तित्वात होती हे कळू शकेल का?
शक्य असल्यास कृपया सांगा... विनंती आहे!
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@bhavanadeshmukh5600 do read my books and watch other videos.
Kindly link part 1 in description
If possible can you create publish your presentation as video?
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Sir, I use to see the Western narrative videos of AIT and then look for the answers in Indic narrative videos. Still I find it hard to counter some of the arguments presented by AIT presenters.
1. The main argument they present now a days is based on genetics.
They say Y chromosome R1a gene found in East Europe, southern Russia and India, has come from invasion as oldest sample was found in Ukraine, from 5000-3000 BC. But Abhijit Chavda has presented a research which says that the R1a gene originated in India around 15000BC.
Then AIT people say no other Indian gene is found in Eurasians. So Out of India theory is false.
They also say R1a is found more in Brahmins and higher castes based on David Reich's research data.
How to counter this?
2. Your dates of Ramayana and Mahabharata are based on astronomical data. I agree with this but is there any Archeological evidence like ruins to back these dates (except Dwarka)? We have found Saraswati civilisation which at most dates back to 8000BC and some pottery cultures. Though humans have inhabited India for atleast 80000 years. Still no evidence of advanced old civilisation from 15000 years ago.
3. Why is it still in progress to decipher Indus script if it is part of Indian civilisation?
Why they are so distinct from the vedic culture after 1000BC? There is a great discontinuity.
No burnt brick structure has been found between 1000BC till Mahajanpada/Mauryans in 400BC, only mud houses. The people were considered tribes. There are no temples found, also very less major Hindu religious practice evidence has been found in Saraswati civilisation (though Shiv ling was found).
One point said by Witzel was the fire pits found there were not used for Yajya as they were different from those mentioned in Vedas. They were probably used for cooking as some burnt animal remains have been found in them.
One study found that the people used to eat meat heavily like pig, cattle, buffalo, goat, chicken based on lipids found there.
The leftist argument is put that the people were secular.
The Indus civilisation has more been associated with Dravidian civilisation based on:
a. Script more like Tamil.
b. Non-Vegetarian aspect.
c. Jalaikattu represented on a seal.
Recently, IIT KGP did study which suggests that due to climate change the people migrated east in Ganges plains. But how they forgot their earlier lifestyle, why is it so different?
4. They also present the argument that spoked wheels were not present in Saraswati civilisation. This can be false because I have seen some indirect evidences of spoked wheel.
a. In British museum, there is a small toy brass spoked wheel made by early wax casting method, from 3000BC
b. A terracotta toy wheel with spoke impressions has been found.
c. The Indus script has spoked wheel symbol, famous one on Dholavira sign board.
Still I am not aware of direct evidence of spoked wheel. The Sinauli Chariots have solid copper decorated wheels. It is possible that it was ritualistic chariot, not practical one. Earliest evidence of spoked is found in Kazakhstan from 2100BC.
Answer to these arguments will for sure shatter Aryan Migration Theory.
So this is proving that aryans migrated from outside
@@adityanarayan3909 As for genetics, it is possible that R1a gene came not with aryans but with later rulers like Kushans, Huns and possibly Turks.
As for more gene in higher caste, it is possibly due to fact that higher caste people lived in urban centres where foreigners more came in contact, while lower caste lived in villages.
Genetics is AIT's main strength but it is very flawed.
Even if you agree with AIT, it is hard to explain why the aryans adopted Shiva as supreme god which was not their god according to westerners. Vedas can be looked in two ways
1. It is very old, according to Oak sir 30000 years probably. Therefore it doesn't mention Shiva, only basic devas of Swarga like Agni, Indra etc. are prayed. Shiva is in form of Rudra and not prominent.
2. Vedas were brought by Aryans which gods similar to greek gods like zeus or Indra. Then they blend with Indus valley culture and we have present day Hinduism.
The western scholars also follow tree model of indo-european languages which is very misleading because it says languages can only diverge which is not true as two languages can also combine eg. Urdu from Persian and Hindi.
But it is very hard to accept that the 'superior' aryans as they western scholars say, adopted practices of Indus people like
1. Meditation- the famous statue of beard man meditating is very similar to Buddha's posture of meditation. It is most important part of yogi's and rishi's life. Even Shiva and Vishnu have same posture of chanting Om. Why aryans adopted this?
2. Yoga postures have been found in Indus valley. The yoga is a medium to connect with the Universe and nature. It is important for yogi. Vedas were written by rishi's and yogi's. How aryans adopted this?
3. Sindur in women statues has been found. Why aryans adopted this?
The conclusion is
Either today's Sanatan is more derived from Saraswati Civilisation rather than aryans 'if AIT is true'.
Or AIT is false, which explains everything much easily.
Also majority of today's Indian people DNA matches with Saraswati people.
@@ProtiumPower what about the DNA reports of the skeletons found in sanauli? Why ASI is not releasing the reports ?
@@adityanarayan3909 It is very hard to extract DNA from bodies found in India because of very hot climate and rainy season which doesn't help preservation. Everyone agrees that.
@@ProtiumPower We have found the DNA of skeletons in rakhigarhi and harappan sites, so it's not difficult to extract DNA from the bodies found in India. And we have found that the DNA samples matches with Dravidian. So I think the DNA found in sanauli must be aryan one.
Plz make it in English.
Ek Teesmar Khan Nilesh Oak Hai , bolta hai 7000 varsh pehle Mahabharat hua aur 14000 varsh pehle Ramayan hua , Tumlogo ko shaastro ki kaal ganana se kya appatti hai ? Jab swayam shaastro ne bataya hai ki kab Yeh sab hua toh tumlog kiu Computer aur Machine leke pahunch jate ho . Pehle ke saare Avtaari Acharya aur Abhi saare Pramanik Acharya hamesha Kehte hai ki Mahabharat 5000 varsh pehle hua aur Ramayan kalp bhed se 1 Crore se 8 lakh varsh pehle hua , toh fir tumlog apne bekar ke so called scientific methods leke kiu pahuch jate ho . Jis Acharya aur Guru Parampara se Shaastro tum tak pahuche unki baat kiu nhi mante . Shaastro ki baat Guru , Acharya aur Rishio ke mat se manoge na , tum apna dimaag kiu lagate ho , tumhare saare so called scientific equipment kaal aur galat dristikon ke adhin hai , satya sirf shaastra chakshu se jana jata hai Machine se nhi , Machine Bohot se assumption pe chalti hai jo case to case galat bhi ho sakta hai , lekin sab jante hai ki Shaastro ki baat 100% Perfect hai. Jaise koi Research Globally Recognise hone ke liye saare Top Scholars usse approval dete hai weshe hi Pehle yeh saare Nilesh Oak jaise Videsh Gaami patit hindu apna Kal ganana kisi Parampara Parpt Pramanik Acharya se certify karaye fir ham inki aage ki baat sunenge . Yeshe Nilesh Oak jeshe hi Aryabhatta bhi hua tha jo apne siddhant ko kisi Pramanik Acharya aur Rishio se Approval nhi karwa paya tha kiuki uska siddhant Galat aur Shaastro ke viruddh tha , aur unke siddhant ko Lall aur Varahmihir ne Uske anuyayi se shaastrat karke dhuast kar diya tha .Yehlog Adi Shankaracharya, Madhavacharya , Vallabhacharya se bade ho gaye kya . Ab yeh mat bolna ki 1 Crore varsh pehle Ramayan nhi ho sakti kiuki tab sab Bandar the 😂 , Yeh Evolution, Stone Age , Iron Age , Vedic Age , Middle Age , Modern Age sab scam hai , agar tum Hindu Ho toh Shaastro ke pati aastha hona padega , agar aastha hai toh yeh bhi manna hoga ki shaaatra apourushya hai , Manu Satrupa hamare Adi Mata Pita the , bandar Bhalu nhi 😂 , ham Tumlogo jaise Bandar putra nhi Isswar aur Rishio ki santane hai . Shaastro ki Kaal Ganana Janna ho toh shaastro ke siddhant se jano apna bekar ka theories mat do . Tumhare Theories Tumhare Marne ke baad Sarega koi nhi puchega jaise Arya Samaj ko koi bhi Hindu hi nhi manta kiuki woh bhi shaaatra viruddh hai .