@@deamon-tx1xl Látod te ezt érzelmi alapon közelíted meg, ők pedig 130 éve hadiipari üzletből élnek meg. A nálunk létesített gyár 25000 m2 míg a szlovák gyár 12000 m2. A miénk éves kapacitása 40-45 db hiúz és ez nemzetközi tenderekhez, megrendelésekhez kevés. Hidd el tudják mit csinálnak.
Eddig csak zenés videókat lehetett látni a Lynxről, ez az első ahol eredeti hang hallható. Én arra gondoltam, hogy hasonló a hangja mint a Pumának, de nem...ez a puma hangja akció közben... czcams.com/video/dUCWsgikyKc/video.html
@@elnesti1890 its both. The Puma is more expansive and they don't want to export the technology. The Lynx has a Marderchassis and is modular- not bad either!
Az általad belinkelt videón az első fél percben nagyobb gyakorlatot látni a pumától, mint ettől ami nálunk van. - Gondolom, nem szeretik tisztítani a járművet a honvédségnél, ezért vigyáznak, nehogy saras legyen - viszont így mutogatóba semmit nem fognak megtanulni éles helyzetekről a honvédeink.
Das Fahrzeug muss Strassentauglich sein, nach Gesetz. All modern fighting vehicles need to be street legal, since they do use public roads. They also have brake and signaling lights.
The Puma is much more expensive and it is taylormade for the bundeswehr's needs. The Lynx is more general and as a result more attractive for other countries
Why ? You don't even need any army. You can't afford it. What YOU need is to quickly build a coastal dam to protect your country against the rising sea level ! And then : stop making babies ! Establish a maximum of 2 children per family ! This is what you need and NOT German IFVs !
You will not get any modern tracked IFV for 2 million dollar for sure. More like 8-10 million. Maybe you can get a cheaper 8x8 wheeled APC like Patria AMV with a light RCWS for 2 million... after a huge discount. :)
@@dhawk1992 what are you talking about?? A modern MBT is 5-6 million. Come on dude. Rheinmetall is not Apple Iphone. You have other better option in that price range. And any country will prefer 5 piece of ifv to a 10 million ifv.:)
@@faheemfaisal4406 You clearly have no idea what are you talking about. Just check the price tag of a SEP v3 Abrams (without DU insert ofc, because no export customer can get that, not even the closest allies) or a Leopard 2A7 or any other modern western MBT. You may get a VT-4 or T90S export version for 5-6 million. But even an APS can cost a million dollar easily. The recent upgrade of 154 german Puma + 143 optional will cost around 1,9(!) Billion Euro to the Bundeswehr. For example you can buy a Boxer wheled IFV, with a cheaper medium caliber RCWS (Samson MkII) for 5 million, like the Lithuanian Army did. Welcome to the harsh reality my friend...
@@faheemfaisal4406 Anyway, name better options in that price range... especially that one you can get 5 piece of moder IFVs for 10 million. I have to admit, you made me really curious! :) :P
I think Hungary should amass a more quantity of wheeled IFV instead the tracked ones, they're very very expensive. The Leopard tanks also are very expensive for a small country, I think it's possible to make a joint venture with Ukraine to obtain Nato compliant tanks, IFV and APC in hungarian territory of course.
1. Wheeled vs tracked vehicles serve different purposes and doctrines. 2. Hungary is building the Lynx , and that's way more profitable for them then to buy a wheeled IFV that's less capable. 3. Name another modern main battle tank that is cheaper than Leopard 2 and, has the same capabilities and upgrade potential. 4. Why do you think Hungary, a country with a population similar to Sweden can't afford modern equipment ? 5. Ukraine is not a NATO member. 6. Hungary is on the Eastern flank of NATO, they need the best equipment they can get. 7. Why do you think you know more than the Hungarian ministry of defense ? Where do you get your information from ?
@@scratchy996 Who say that a tracked IFV is more capable ? You ? I know they are building the lynx but who say that is more profitable from them, you again ? 3- T- 84 ukranian with 120 mm cannon or a T 72 modernized in Ukraine with a 120 mm cannon and modern ERA, also israeli electronic could be included. 4- Yes I think so. Hungary isn't similar to Sweden, they're very different. Sweden is more than four times bigger in territory, more than three times PBI, better education, health and Hungary about 30 years ago was a broken communist country, any more differences? 5- Where I said that Ukraine is a NATO country? They produce ex-soviet models with nato compliant characteristics, is different. You should learn to read better. 6- They're more in middle right now, west of Poland and Romania, anyway, we could say that they're in the "east flank". 7- Who's the hungarian ministry of defense ? Another politician who is in charge in defense, I don't know his preparation, motivation, education, you know him ? I see a lot of authority falacy in your question, let me finish with another one, do you have any argument in favor of the Lynx or you are only a broken crystal fascistoid who didn't like others' opinions ? Send my salutations to the hungarian ministry of defense if you know something from him. Bye.
@@FernandoRojas-du3sg 1. Who say that a tracked IFV is more capable ? - That's just a fact, look into it. 2. That was the deal they made. 3. lol, those are outdated, and not near as capable as a modern Leopard 2. 4. I said population similar to Sweden, you should learn to read better. Because they are a smaller country, they can't rely on big numbers, so they have to chose better equipment. 5. Ukraine is not in NATO, so it's politically undesirable for NATO countries to buy equipment from them. 7. I said ministry of defense, not Defense Minister, you should learn to read. Have a nice day.
They are building the IFV themselves. You don't need to fight, if you have enough deterrence. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war.
Ez csak egy bemutató prototipus ugye, amivel lőni sem lehet ? Vagy ez lesz a gyár bejáratánál a dekoráció ? Nem úgy mozog mint egy ütőképes darab ! Na meg a bokáig érő vízben megnedvesítette a kerekeket... A hangja is furcsa a Pumához képest ! A Marder hangjára hasonlít jobban.
Ebben egy 18 literes sor 6 Liebherr D976 van szemben a Puma 11 literes V10 MTU 892-vel. Persze hogy más hangja van. Ez a motor jóval nagyobb és nehezebb, kevésbé pörgősebb, mint a Puma motorja, cserébe sokkal nagyobb a nyomaték, egyenletesebben adja le a teljesítményét és remélhetőleg tartósabb lesz. Ez civil munkagépekben is megtalálható, olcsóbb szemben a másikkal, ami inkább egy célszerszám. Másban talán nem is alkalmazzák a Puma motorját... Nyomni kéne a gázt és akkor ez is "ütőképesen fog mozogni". :D A torony egy mockup.
@@dhawk1992! Köszi ! Ez így érthetőbb, és a motorral kapcsolatos érvek is logikusak, hiszen a javításukra is kell gondolni idővel. A beszerzéseken is látszik, hogy megfontoltak. Maróth Gáspár és a beszerzési tanácsadók munkáját is dìcséret illeti, főleg a hazai gyártás ÚJ megteremtése miatt, amit a ruszki idők alatt sem tehettünk, pedig lett volna néhány hazai páncélos amit tovább lehetett volna fejleszteni ! Tehát az össz kép nagyon pozitív ! A torony tűnt fel nekem is elősször...ezért gondoltam, hogy csak a külső formát bemutató 1:1 -es mozgó makett. :-D
@@MrZentym A KF41 teljesen új ip, semmi köze sincs a Marderhez! Max annyi, mint a Leo 1-nek a Leo 2A7-hez, tehát nemsok. A KF31 alapszik a korábbi Marder Evolution nevű upgrade csomagon. Csak tisztázzuk mielőtt ilyen nagy arccal beleszállsz a másikba...
@@dhawk1992 Ezt mondtam, hogy marder alapja van, de te ragozod a szart. És igen lehet "nagy arcom" van mire, és aki hülyeséget beszél sz inkább kussoljon!
The Dutch army brought their CV90’s to Hungary few years ago, and personally I wasnt impressed, as same as my comrades. Othervise Hungary could choose from many used IFV’s as other countries doing, but we took other path.
Thats simply not true. The CV90 has only one advantage over the Lynx: its much smaller. And the same time it is its biggest disadvantage too. You can barely fit 6 soldier in the troop compartment with all the weapons, equipment and 3 days of supply for continuous fighting. CV90 become too small, too cramped for modern warfare, while in a Lynx you can easily put 8 troop and all their equipment, it has plenty of space.
Hungary is now regional power.
Congratulations.
Greetings from Croatia.
regional what ? ha ha ha ha .
Yes regional Power, thx
Congrats Hungary awesome IFV!
Hungary = Carpatian Basin big power!
Ez 1 igazi monstrum. Jó választás. Köszi a videót.
Föleg hogy szlovákiába építenek ezek a fa.... németek egy ugyanilyen gyárat! Azoknak a söpredékekneki is :(
@@deamon-tx1xl Látod te ezt érzelmi alapon közelíted meg, ők pedig 130 éve hadiipari üzletből élnek meg. A nálunk létesített gyár 25000 m2 míg a szlovák gyár 12000 m2. A miénk éves kapacitása 40-45 db hiúz és ez nemzetközi tenderekhez, megrendelésekhez kevés. Hidd el tudják mit csinálnak.
Brilliant looking vehicle. We UK should cancel Ascod2/Ajax crap and buy this or CV90 mk4
Várjuk!
Super
AAF Camouflage from Arma III
when I've seen it first I thought the same lmao
Heh. I think the vic is even in the game under some made up name.
Congrats Hungary too... extrem good and right decision!!!
Lynx is the Future
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Has it got a hybrid Electric - Internal Combustion Engine?
No it has an 1.140 horse power in-line engine
Die Teststrecke scheint mir nicht sehr off-roady zu sein. Und was klappert da eigentlich?
Was soll da klappern? die Kette?
@@karlheerwagen2972 das Gebiss 🤦🏼♂️
Eddig csak zenés videókat lehetett látni a Lynxről,
ez az első ahol eredeti hang hallható.
Én arra gondoltam, hogy hasonló a hangja mint a Pumának,
de nem...ez a puma hangja akció közben...
czcams.com/video/dUCWsgikyKc/video.html
I didn't see another nation having Puma, its much expensive or Germans simply doesn't export it????
@@elnesti1890 its both. The Puma is more expansive and they don't want to export the technology. The Lynx has a Marderchassis and is modular- not bad either!
Az általad belinkelt videón az első fél percben nagyobb gyakorlatot látni a pumától, mint ettől ami nálunk van. - Gondolom, nem szeretik tisztítani a járművet a honvédségnél, ezért vigyáznak, nehogy saras legyen - viszont így mutogatóba semmit nem fognak megtanulni éles helyzetekről a honvédeink.
What kind of camouflage is this?
It is a demo vehicle.
You could drive Perry much any SUV (let alone 4x4) through that course. What capability did this actually demonstrate?
In 2 to 3 years in Greece i hope.
I hope too. Cause we dont need this trash in Germany. But first pay!
So hoch entwickelt... Und immer noch schöne Seitenspiegel??? Was denn da los??
Prototype only.
@@sisimoto do you know when they get their turrets?
Das Fahrzeug muss Strassentauglich sein, nach Gesetz.
All modern fighting vehicles need to be street legal, since they do use public roads. They also have brake and signaling lights.
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Várom már, hogy a torony is műküdjön, nagyon kíváncsi vagyok rá, de számomra így csak egy impzáns mozgócél egyenlőre.
Egy jármű ami csak azért van hogy lefotozzak es föl, alá menjen, fölösleges egy működő torony rá
Az ausztrálok már tesztelik az ágyút, igaz az a Lance 1.0 toronnyal van. Nálunk a 2.0 lesz.
én a védelemre lennék kíváncsi, milyen védelme van a rakéták pánceltörők ellen, illetve felülről jövők ellen van-e valami védelme pl.?
@@julescousteau honvedelem.hu/hirek/strikeshield-aktiv-vedelmi-rendszerrel-szerelik-fel-a-honvedseg-lynx-harcjarmuveit.html
@@julescousteau czcams.com/video/iKeuVHKc92U/video.html&ab_channel=Rheinmetall-DerintegrierteTechnologiekonzern
One question why no nation its having Puma its much more capable platform its much expensive or they don't export it???
The Puma is much more expensive and it is taylormade for the bundeswehr's needs.
The Lynx is more general and as a result more attractive for other countries
Can you parcel few in Bangladesh?? I will give you 2 million for each. We need a regiment of 44 of this vehicle.
Why ?
You don't even need any army. You can't afford it.
What YOU need is to quickly build a coastal dam to protect your country against the rising sea level !
And then : stop making babies !
Establish a maximum of 2 children per family !
This is what you need and NOT German IFVs !
You will not get any modern tracked IFV for 2 million dollar for sure. More like 8-10 million. Maybe you can get a cheaper 8x8 wheeled APC like Patria AMV with a light RCWS for 2 million... after a huge discount. :)
@@dhawk1992 what are you talking about?? A modern MBT is 5-6 million. Come on dude. Rheinmetall is not Apple Iphone. You have other better option in that price range. And any country will prefer 5 piece of ifv to a 10 million ifv.:)
@@faheemfaisal4406 You clearly have no idea what are you talking about. Just check the price tag of a SEP v3 Abrams (without DU insert ofc, because no export customer can get that, not even the closest allies) or a Leopard 2A7 or any other modern western MBT.
You may get a VT-4 or T90S export version for 5-6 million. But even an APS can cost a million dollar easily.
The recent upgrade of 154 german Puma + 143 optional will cost around 1,9(!) Billion Euro to the Bundeswehr. For example you can buy a Boxer wheled IFV, with a cheaper medium caliber RCWS (Samson MkII) for 5 million, like the Lithuanian Army did.
Welcome to the harsh reality my friend...
@@faheemfaisal4406 Anyway, name better options in that price range... especially that one you can get 5 piece of moder IFVs for 10 million. I have to admit, you made me really curious! :) :P
I think Hungary should amass a more quantity of wheeled IFV instead the tracked ones, they're very very expensive.
The Leopard tanks also are very expensive for a small country, I think it's possible to make a joint venture with Ukraine to obtain Nato compliant tanks, IFV and APC in hungarian territory of course.
1. Wheeled vs tracked vehicles serve different purposes and doctrines.
2. Hungary is building the Lynx , and that's way more profitable for them then to buy a wheeled IFV that's less capable.
3. Name another modern main battle tank that is cheaper than Leopard 2 and, has the same capabilities and upgrade potential.
4. Why do you think Hungary, a country with a population similar to Sweden can't afford modern equipment ?
5. Ukraine is not a NATO member.
6. Hungary is on the Eastern flank of NATO, they need the best equipment they can get.
7. Why do you think you know more than the Hungarian ministry of defense ? Where do you get your information from ?
@@scratchy996 Who say that a tracked IFV is more capable ? You ?
I know they are building the lynx but who say that is more profitable from them, you again ?
3- T- 84 ukranian with 120 mm cannon or a T 72 modernized in Ukraine with a 120 mm cannon and modern ERA, also israeli electronic could be included.
4- Yes I think so. Hungary isn't similar to Sweden, they're very different. Sweden is more than four times bigger in territory, more than three times PBI, better education, health and Hungary about 30 years ago was a broken communist country, any more differences?
5- Where I said that Ukraine is a NATO country? They produce ex-soviet models with nato compliant characteristics, is different. You should learn to read better.
6- They're more in middle right now, west of Poland and Romania, anyway, we could say that they're in the "east flank".
7- Who's the hungarian ministry of defense ? Another politician who is in charge in defense, I don't know his preparation, motivation, education, you know him ? I see a lot of authority falacy in your question, let me finish with another one, do you have any argument in favor of the Lynx or you are only a broken crystal fascistoid who didn't like others' opinions ?
Send my salutations to the hungarian ministry of defense if you know something from him. Bye.
@@FernandoRojas-du3sg 1. Who say that a tracked IFV is more capable ? - That's just a fact, look into it.
2. That was the deal they made.
3. lol, those are outdated, and not near as capable as a modern Leopard 2.
4. I said population similar to Sweden, you should learn to read better. Because they are a smaller country, they can't rely on big numbers, so they have to chose better equipment.
5. Ukraine is not in NATO, so it's politically undesirable for NATO countries to buy equipment from them.
7. I said ministry of defense, not Defense Minister, you should learn to read.
Have a nice day.
"they're very very expensive."
yes it is. but we built a factoriy to produce it.
@@scratchy996I had no idea Hungary had the same population as Sweden.
Cocolores aus Germanistan!!!!
Cocolores ?
What do you mean ?
cocolores means something unnesseary.
Congratulations for the billion EUR spent on! Now tell me who you gonna fight with this IFV?
Think they need whe they try to leafe the EU.
They are building the IFV themselves. You don't need to fight, if you have enough deterrence. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war.
any soldier for wherever country will tell you : "anyone who will cross my country's border" .
Too loud. You can hear it 5 miles away. Klapperkiste
Made for indoor use only 😂
Ez csak egy bemutató prototipus ugye,
amivel lőni sem lehet ? Vagy ez lesz a
gyár bejáratánál a dekoráció ?
Nem úgy mozog mint egy ütőképes darab !
Na meg a bokáig érő vízben megnedvesítette a kerekeket...
A hangja is furcsa a Pumához képest !
A Marder hangjára hasonlít jobban.
Ebben egy 18 literes sor 6 Liebherr D976 van szemben a Puma 11 literes V10 MTU 892-vel. Persze hogy más hangja van.
Ez a motor jóval nagyobb és nehezebb, kevésbé pörgősebb, mint a Puma motorja, cserébe sokkal nagyobb a nyomaték, egyenletesebben adja le a teljesítményét és remélhetőleg tartósabb lesz. Ez civil munkagépekben is megtalálható, olcsóbb szemben a másikkal, ami inkább egy célszerszám. Másban talán nem is alkalmazzák a Puma motorját...
Nyomni kéne a gázt és akkor ez is "ütőképesen fog mozogni". :D
A torony egy mockup.
@@dhawk1992! Köszi !
Ez így érthetőbb, és a motorral kapcsolatos érvek is logikusak, hiszen a javításukra is kell gondolni idővel.
A beszerzéseken is látszik, hogy megfontoltak. Maróth Gáspár és a beszerzési tanácsadók munkáját is
dìcséret illeti, főleg a hazai gyártás ÚJ megteremtése miatt, amit a ruszki idők alatt sem tehettünk, pedig
lett volna néhány hazai páncélos amit tovább lehetett volna fejleszteni !
Tehát az össz kép nagyon pozitív !
A torony tűnt fel nekem is elősször...ezért gondoltam, hogy csak a külső formát bemutató 1:1 -es mozgó makett. :-D
Mivel marder alapú te tudatlan.... Lynx mardere alapszik és felvan tuningolva. Bőven elég a lynx a környékre a románokat teljesen kitudja csinálni!
@@MrZentym A KF41 teljesen új ip, semmi köze sincs a Marderhez! Max annyi, mint a Leo 1-nek a Leo 2A7-hez, tehát nemsok.
A KF31 alapszik a korábbi Marder Evolution nevű upgrade csomagon.
Csak tisztázzuk mielőtt ilyen nagy arccal beleszállsz a másikba...
@@dhawk1992 Ezt mondtam, hogy marder alapja van, de te ragozod a szart. És igen lehet "nagy arcom" van mire, és aki hülyeséget beszél sz inkább kussoljon!
Słaby. Brakuje najnowocześniejszej zdobyczy technologicznej z Białoruskich czołgów. Mianowicie przyspawanej z tyłu czołgu rury z dyndającym wiadrem z rozgrzanym węglęm. :)
CV90 Will outperform this any day 👍🏻
Good Joke 😂😂😂
H e will not, cause it happended. The Puma and Lynx are Trash. Everybody in Germany knows. Nice Trash and Business for Idiot-Nations.
Cv 90 much more capable platform
Cool opinion! Sadly bullshit
Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing:
The Dutch army brought their CV90’s to Hungary few years ago, and personally I wasnt impressed, as same as my comrades. Othervise Hungary could choose from many used IFV’s as other countries doing, but we took other path.
Thats simply not true. The CV90 has only one advantage over the Lynx: its much smaller.
And the same time it is its biggest disadvantage too. You can barely fit 6 soldier in the troop compartment with all the weapons, equipment and 3 days of supply for continuous fighting. CV90 become too small, too cramped for modern warfare, while in a Lynx you can easily put 8 troop and all their equipment, it has plenty of space.
Cv90🤣 30-40 Jahre alt ?