Are we descendants of Indians or Arabs | Pakistan Identity Crisis | FT Salman Rashid |97| TG Podcast
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- Join our latest podcast with special guest Salman Rashid as we dive into a candid conversation about the identity crisis among Pakistanis. We explore key topics like Ashoka and Porus, Indian roots and the prevalent focus on Arab ancestry over our Indian roots
Salman Rashid is Pakistan's most widely traveled travel writer with few places in the country that do not carry his footprint.
00:00 Highlights
00:51 Introduction
10:51 History and Traveling
19:31 Ashoka and Porus
22:31 Are we Arab ancestors?
24:46 Why Fetish with Arab ancestry
38:51 Aryans v/s Dravidian
40:00 Identity Crisis
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How long can one-sided pseudo secularism exist? Have India and Hindus taken on the mantle of single handedly keeping it alive at their own cost while Muslims in India and Pakistan engage in the worst forms of religious extremism and bigotry? If Muslims loved secularism so much they should have returned the favor for the last 70-75 years while Hindus and India were playing nice.
Problem is not limited to momins, Arab ideology and the "sky book" is the root of the problem(s)
They would never look at them selves and their history, always want other party to mallow down.
Being an ambedkarite atheist I am not concerned with any religion be it Hinduism or Islam. However any faith including atheism should be based on logic , reasoning beliefs not based on ancestry, hereditary, civilization etc . These ideas promote racism . Already we are dealing with manuvad
Strange.. You are asking why Muslims of Pakistan do not associate themselves with thier Indian/Hindu heritage but condemn when Modi trys to connect India with its Indian heritage.. Strange case of Pakistani intelectuals 😮😮
Good observation sir 👏
Simple if you are not a bhakt. The Indian heritage that Modi is trying to connect is extremely coloured one. Does he accept diversity?
Forcing someone or imposing is crime
He is a nut too. Getting into things nobody cares about.
@@mandeepbrar1979Yes, barring radicalism, diversity is very much supported, encouraged and promoted.
Salman rashid sir,, should update his knowledge about Aryan-Dravidian theories ,,
He only knows Romila thapar ,,,
Do u expect any better from them?
Even their so called libera....r very interested to talk abt India ,hin...and our rlgn
But would dare not speak a word on I s l...
Romila Thappar the old man said, he is doomed! :D
Perhaps you need to update your research about Salman Rashid , he has quoted and mentioned many other names in regards to aryans and dravidians. Let me guess you believe in out of india theory??
@@drg598 what does anthropology has anything todo with intelligence organizations. Please enlighten me
@@drg598 what's a chuslim? What's a momo? What is hin?
Sad you have no knowledge about india, many Pakistani visit india and you still think india is not secular .. then am sad for your ignorance. It’s better you worry about your own country which is definitely not secular
Secularism in india since thousands of years because of various casts, tribes, nomads and various cultures Asam, manipur, telangana, vidharbha, rajstan, haryana, himachal, kannad, tamil every area have its own culture, various types of pooja, lifestyles but aaceptance and tolerance is too much for others but only one religion in world that is islam which is constricted due to its own baseless faiths.
When Arabs invaded Sindh and then subsequent Turkic invasions after 10th century, it is clear that majority of Hindus remained Hindus. It was Buddhists that got converted to Islam.
There are no Buddhists remaining in Pakistan today. What happened to the majority Buddhist population of sindh then? They got their behinds handed to them by Islamic invaders and got converted.
Nope, check their surnames, same in sindhi And punjabi hindus😅😅😅
This is the problem with Buddhism, they have no resistance
first of who was the betrayer ? when md qasim invaded sindh ?
budhists kings betrayed raja dahir( brahmin king)
who was bringing greeks here ? buhdhists and then shunga cleanse them.
yh sare hai chutie kya ilaj kre inka.@@tigerpandey7636
No i think they are mostly Hindus in the past they still have surnames like Sethi, chaudhary, bhatti etc
@@samip3124 Hindus started converting under Mughal rule. Most converted about 400-500 years ago.
Buddhists converted to Islam 1000 years ago. They got wiped out in the modern country of Pakistan and Afghanistan around 1000 AD.
I’m not sure , when the compère says the Hindus want to make temples for their deities , he realises that these were Hindu temples before broken by bigots and zealots in the past
Truth and reconciliation demands these be given back to Hindus and it is nothing against Islam .
Those practicing a moderate Islam with kindness and respect to their fellow citizens would welcome such moves
Indians have always had a very moderate Islam . It is Jinnah who instilled fear and now the money from Saudi Arabia etc has fanned fundamentalist ideology
I hope all communities live happily in India and I think they will , with full restoration of important places of Hindu worship .
Indian Muslims must find it in their heart to return these places to their rightful owners
Hasan Nisar will never forgive Salman Rashid for his blunt views
wo to tajik hen
😅 Hassan Nisar 😆😆😆 enough said
Hassan Nisar is a quintessential Punjabi. Loud, pompous, emotional and no profound thoughts.
Salman saab ne hasan nisar ko mooh par keh diya ki tu haraam ki paidaish hai lol
hahahahahhah... blunt and true.....
These fellows have no idea of RakhinGarhi and Saraswati river civilization. These fellows don't acknowledge forced conversion happened regularly. These fellows have no such thing as Aryan invasion, show us one proof
Ye gurmani bhi sindhi convert hai 😅....
😅😅 Ye baloch hy
If Aryan brought the Sanskrit language from central Asia, then please point out any country or a little population residing in Central Asia with your wisdom, great historian Sir jee. 😅😅😅😅😅
I hope that you have gone through Indo-European languages tree. Kindly see the Roma/Sinti/Romani people language and the trail. You will have a good idea.
@@AliAbbas-uz2bw the hieroglyphics in Egyptian Pyramids resemble an alien language.
The majority of Sanskrit Scholars are non-Indians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages#/media/File:Indo-European_language_tree_(with_major_international_languages_highlighted).svg
Roma people migrated from India my dear in 10th century AD following Islamic invasion. @@AliAbbas-uz2bw
Sanskrit is indian language.
I am from Punjab, India, and I recently did my DNA, which came back 99.9 % North Indian. I am proud of the fact that my DNA is completely Indian without any foreign DNA. I am a Jat Sikh, and my forefathers were all Hindus and natives of this region.
baki tan theek hai bai.. par DNA ancestors da religion tan nahi das sakda 😀
@@mandeepbrar1979@mandeepbrar1979 - What was the religion of your forefathers before they adopted Sikhism? Hindu, Islam, Christian, Buddhist, or Jew? What I was trying to imply was that my forefathers were not Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, or Jews. My forefathers were Hindus who probably adopted Sikhism during the reign of Shri Guru Har Gobind Sahib Ji.
@@Karmazov bai jee 500 saal to pehlan tan Hindu sige kion ke uhna de names pata haige sources vich. Te eh vi pata bai uhna nu caste system kar ke discriminate karde sige upper class Hindu. Sidhu da father rajput si te mother Jatt, is layee baki Rajput rania ne us nu kadhva ditta si.. Baki 1200 years pehlan nahi pata because lot of people had converted to Buddhism before they faced persecution by Brahmins in the government and were converted back to Hinduism i.e. somewhere between 100-500 AD
Tere se ab kya hi koi argue karega..... Jin baaton pe baat ab khatam ho chuki hai abhi bhi tu unhi baaton me hai😂...
Tujhe or kyu hi yeh kitna hi itihas padau😂
@@mandeepbrar1979
@@user-ts5dq2kk3m who argued with you. Or are you the original poster? which history? Or are you just a troller posting on behalf of Jatts. Funny!!! ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਗੱਲ ਕਰ
I am staying nearby Taxila in Wah Cantt unfortunately no one talks about Taxila , Hassan Abdal not even Wah Cantt although there's a lot history attached to these Cities
Hasan Nisar shared that his dna results said that he is from central asia which is not the same as middle east. He could be from afghan, tajik, uzbek, tatar or mongol descent but not an arab.
Check his DNA he will beorr closer to a typical north Indian than a central Asian. Central Asians are BMAC
@@mrjaja7303 yes, even if his ancestors might be originally from Central Asia, the fact that he is in a South Asian country, he would have more of his DNA from the region because his regional DNA would be more recent and consequently would be a bigger chunk. We don't have his DNA results so all we can do is speculate.
@@pascalwager4544 Yes but in Pakistan only Pashtuns and Balochs resemble central Asians because of high BMAC , nisar I think is ignorant about basic Dna ancestry. Jats have very high steppe ancestry but they lack BMAC. Jats and indians overall have IRAN_ N
@@mrjaja7303, yes that's true but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in looks, if we are talking about origins. If a 100% Central Asian marries a pure South Asian no matter how long his history of being a Central Asian, his children will be 50% South Asian at the higher end and it will reflect in the looks too and if that child marries a South Asian again his child's DNA could be a high as 75% South Asian (and at 50% at the lower end) and looks will also change. My original comment was about these people confusing Central Asian and Middle Eastern, if I remember correctly.
@@pascalwager4544 I agree as half of genes are from mother. This process happened with Pashtuns in northeast of Pak-Ind region. Pashtuns there married local Dardic women and AASI In their offspring got increased while Pashtuns in Kandahar have not that much Aasi.
Beautiful Podcast. Really a treat to listen to sir Salman. ❤
Are you serious, this goes for a good podcast? :D
Aadha adhura gyan sabse katarnak hota hai...better to be ignorant. One thing I have finally concluded after watching lots of Pakistan's personalities is that the best mind and the most open person from Pakistan cannot really totally remove the deep-seated hatred/bias against Hindu & India.
Romilla Thakur (and Irfan Habib) has contributed the most damage to the history of India and the profession. She doesn't know Sanskrit, doesn't know, doesn't know Farsi, doesn't know Arabic but is a historian of India! In Pakistan, history has been twisted, in India history has been hidden. It's re-surfacing now. The only reason it appears to be more so is simply because of Social media outreach.
Salman ji says Sanskrit came from Europe. Sir - puri duniya mein Sanskrit ka koi namo nishan nahin hai sirf India mein has hazarron saalon se...lekin "fir bhi" Sanskrit bahar se aayi hai. Similar to Indian people who also suffer from inferiority complex which has been fed into its people over centuries, Pakistanis also cannot accept anything unless an "angrez" says it.
I am sorry but you are mis-informed & "ill-informed", simply because you have read some people and haven't others and not because you mean any ill-intent. Nevertheless, no point in trying to convince anyone, just stating my observations and opinion.
"Jaaki rahi bhavana jaisi..." . In other words, "Jaisa chashma waisa hi dikhega". "Hara chashma" is although is of very strong shade.
Good luck to all youth of Pakistan and India to know whole truth and all the history (and not just one sided view)
I agree with you brother . These white European has caused serious damages . We have to publish our own research papers
Secularism in india since thousands of years because of various casts, tribes, nomads and various cultures Asam,panjab, Arunachal, laddakh, kashmir,manipur, telangana, vidharbha, rajstan, haryana, himachal, kannad,bhojpuri, tamil, gujrat every area have its own culture, various types of pooja, lifestyles but aaceptance and tolerance is too much for others but only one religion in world that is islam which is constricted due to its own baseless faiths.
So you are saying that a untouchable is equal to a brahman?
@@Ecstaticgoat do u know abt k u f r
@@Ecstaticgoat says a guy whose rlgn is all abt h....t-i-n-g non m u ^ l.
@@drg598 you mean kufr? If so yea. What about it?
@@Ecstaticgoatagar Islam itna hi equality wala tha toh Hinduism ke casteism ko musalman Islam me bhi kyun le gaye?? musalman me aaj Hindus se zyada casteism hai....
The ancestors of the people of Indus Valley Region were neither from Arabia nor the present India but from the Indus Valley Region itself.
From where you adopted singh surname, hadappa civilization😅😅😅
Best to change your name. Har, Inder, Singh are all Sanskrit. How about calling yourself Lushao Jinping? That's a good name for you. And then ... Chal phut.
@@tigerpandey7636 it should be matter of proud that Harappa Civilisation occurred in the Indus Valley. The first few waves of Aryans who migrated some 5000 years ago from Germany and it’s adjoining areas settled mainly in the Indus Valley Region. Subsequent waves of Aryans occupied western part of UP, Rajasthan and Gujarat. Therefore the ancestors of the present day population of Indus Valley region are from Indus Valley itself who occupied and settled in the valley.
@@nmg1443 see my response to Pandey. Indus Valley is the land where the Aryans settled first. Sanskrit also flourished in Indus Valley. Rig Ved was written in the land of five rivers. Pandavas spent their 14 years of exile in Indus Valley. Even the name of India is derived from Indus. Initially the region of Indus Valley was called India. The ancestors of the people of this region are from this region itself who settled here some 5000 years ago. For your information the words Har Inder and Singh are very ethnic to this region, not the other way around. By the way the word “Grover” has its roots in the Central Europe where it is a common surname in Germany, Netherlands and Denmark.
@HarjinderSingh-ww4cy Nonsense. It is clearly the Saraswati basin, not the Indus. All the biggest cities, such as Rakhigarhi are in it. That is what they radiated from. Ganges became prominent because the Ganges system is the second highest flow in the world after the Amazon. Ganges system is 43000 m3/s while the whole Indus system is much tinier at only 5500 m3/s. This is also why there are no real forests or wildlife in the Northwestern subcontinent. There are no tigers, elephants, rhinos, lions, gibbon ape, gaur bison (way bigger than American bison), etc in Pakistan.
I can listen to this man whole day
Religious Converts talking about India. LOL
Pakistan 🇵🇰 is situated also in indian subcontinent
@@karama709Pakistani are Arabs they don't belong to indian subcontinent Esa unka manana hai 🤣😆😂😅😁
@@karama709really? News.Breaking news
Sound (echo)gave troubles during this interview.
Will work on it next time
Sir Mai Indian hun or history ka student hun .....Hamare yahan koi yah nahin Manta ki Arya India se Europe gaye the.
India ki History ki books men padhaya jata hai ki Arya Ural mountain (Russia) ke pas se Hindustan men aaye the or India men Sabse pahle Sapt Saindhav Pradesh (Present Pakistan... Especially Pakistani Punjab )men rahe Phir East ki or age badhte gaye
Unki mother language Sanskrit thi..
Hamare Inda ke Freedom fighter and Social Reformer Bal Gangadhar Tilak G Ne ek book bhi likhi thi jiska name tha.... ARCTIC ( North Pole) THE HOME OF VEDAS.
VEDAS ko Sanskrit ki oldest books mana jata or aisa mana jata hai ki ye Arays dwara likhi gayi thi.
You are very enlightened person please correct your knowledge.
It is sapat Sindhu desh not Sindhva Pradesh. Gokhle was a fanatic Hindu like Lajpat Rai. So I cant trust him.
Mr Rashid had me in stitches with his gulabi Punjabi! I enjoyed listening to this intellectual discourse. Keep up the good work.
As Panjabis on both side has mother tongue Panjabi. But in Paki Panjab they insist and forced by Govts to abandon Pbi and speak study UP language Urdu as it is only they teach in schools. But own language suo moto comes in when you speak. So that is why gulabi Urdu. Even Raj Kapoor family is living in Mubai but you will note many Panjabi words and accents when they speak dialogues in films. Akhshay, Dharam and others are still Panjabi. See films of Dara Singhto know truth of my statement.
Qutub Minar was made up of pieces of broken temples (hindu n jain). Please do some research.
Kuch nahi maloom aap logo ko.
27 temples ko toda gya, to make it.
Please padhiye thoda.
You Pakistanis don't do any research.
On another channel someone said Mahabharat was racial war when it was between cousins.
Kuch bhi in the name of podcasts.
Hindu history Indians par hi rehne de aap.. Warna research kariye.
Legend ❤
Sir I agree with some points with the the guest but inpresent context hich he is telling about present govt is not true. Indians by nature were secular and will remain secular. Thing is that two nation theory was evolved by brtishers and in same basis they divided country only to gain geopolitical advantage to keep ussr away from entering Indian oceion.
Porus full name PURUSHOTTAM 😊
Sound is disturbing , spolied listening
I am a regular listener and fan of Mr. Rashid. Disappointing though, to hear his views on the so called 'Aryan Invasion' etc.
Sanskrit and Aryans are indigenous to Bharat. Despite what people like Romilla Thapar might say.
Salman ji talks straight.
chacha ji how can a developed languague like sanskrit be developed in semi pastoralist central asia.
What was the language of Vedic Aryans and from where vedic artans came? Hiw will you deal with ppl like Pashai or Nuristanis of Afghanistan who are considered pure vedic remainents.
45:55 That's good. Outsiders should assimilate to the local cultures instead of expecting locals to change themselves. Pashtuns probably are lucky to have their language recognised in a sovereign country Afghanistan where it's respected on national level. Punjabi, Sindhi & Balochi has no sovereign country protecting it. Bengali has a sovereign country's patronage too. Som languages are lucky, some are not & have a tougher fight for their survival.
Why do you go into discussions about India. Leave the Indians to their vices. Look at your own status and discuss that, and limit yourself to that. You are in no position as a people to advise others about how to govern or live.
Please mention tum log jo Jatt aur Rajput ki baat kar rahe jo apne aap ko Arab se aaye hue kehte hai "WOH PAKISTANI Jatt Rajputs hai". Indian Jatt and Rajputs, Guptas, Marathas, Cholas sab apne Bharatiya civilization se bahot proud kartey hai.
Awesome 👍 program
Sound sahi karo
If you consider Romila Thapar as a historian then you should not do any program on history.
Very good discussion. Thanks. Salman rashid, is true about Modi.
Reunification would be another blunder
No reunification absolutely not
Majority of Pakistanis are indian heritage. If India was not divided then where would the so called Pakistanis belong.
We are Rajputs and 100% pure ethnically Indian and love my civilization and my culture
Waah mere Rajput bhai.
Raaj karega Rajputana.
😊
@@SirKasim666 brother we Rajputs can’t change our fathers we have ancestors who were pure Indians and they were great people we are proud of them and our ancestors did rule for 5000 years
@@gulrezrana3710 💪
@@gulrezrana3710musalman kabhi rajput nai ho sakta
@@joymon8232 you seems a every senseless and uneducated person religion is faith and caste is simply science of genetics and DNA
So if someone adopts any faith or country or language his DNA genetic never changes what’s so ever please read the some history well uneducated person can’t even read or understand but British army Rajputana Rifles has a branch of Muslim Rajputs even today many Muslims Rajput soldiers are part of Rajputana Regemit of India Army even when tiger hill was captured in Kargil war 1999 the guy who won the mountain and he tasted martyrdom was a Muslim Rajput of Indian army and won the medal
But you will never understand because of lack of education and even common sense
Jay Rajputana long live Rajputs
Sir,my parents village was karyala, in jehlum dist .Pls visit this place if possible and show us.i have not been able to visit due to visa hassles.kamal.
Salmanji Indians and europeans mei R1a1 haplogroup hai,,jiski sabse jyada types india mei hai
"Lord" BHAGWAN SHRI RAM was/is ARYA PUTTERA(son of Arya's).
🌹🙏JAI SHRI RAM 🙏🌹
We INDIANS (subcontinent) Proud to an Aryan 😍
Well we Rajputs are direct children or Shri Ram Ji that’s why we believe it’s very noble blood line and we protect it for centuries
We are children of Adam and Eve, Rd, Raja Dahir was not RJpoot ,he was Mohali Brahman, Rasheed Sahib Islam entered through from South India and SiriLanka which was earliest trade route for Arabs traders,
Read a book called “ early Indians” by tony Joseph . Indian dna tests scientific genetic tracing ; mostly
Indicate Iranian blood , central steppes and ANI or ASI blood mix ( varying spectrum of mixes in various percentages . North India may have more ANI and south may have more ASI dna . ) harappan people genealogy indicated a mix of Iranian and indigineous Indian people dna . The book traces all this through genealogy done with available technologies .
thats a propaganda book
Indo aryans aryan sub group
Dravidian races
The one from
India is actually one from Africa
& Several times African population have migrated towards India
Then the han group from north east
Side
Persian race is just non Arab classified
Arab race that don't speak the language
That are Turkic, Caucasians
Indo greek
We are all pretty well mixed
& India if it wants to dominate must spread it's genes far & beyond
Pathans are pretty well versed you see this phenomenon that afghan,balochis,& pashtoons are very much like Uzbek,Chinese turkic
But in India
Pashtoons are much localised & darker in color in lower parts
Because of breeding with dark races
After 4 generations the DNA changes are so great that
Great Grandfather's DNA won't even match the progeny
Why are we challenging God's Process of Shuffling
Arabs were here
So have the Japanese also been here & assimilated
@@dinozaurpickupline4221 BS
I read this, I feel stupider than I did 5 mins ago!@@dinozaurpickupline4221
what if indians move out of india and went to west asia?
what can be the theory also.
Phenotype isn't a correct measure to find the origins. Skin color and features can change dramatically due to intermixing e.g. president obama is half-white. As far as I remember brahuis and balochistan overall have higher rate of ASI (ancestral south indian) admixture.
Suggest you read from authentic sources abiut class and caste.. Caste word is derived from word castise in latin..
100% right
Many castes have changed their names recently. For example, the Choorah caste in East Punjab changed their name to Mazhabi Sikhs, and the Chamar caste changed their name to either Adharmi or Ravidasia, depending on the area. In Pakistan, the Telli caste changed its name to Malik, the Kumhar caste is now known as Rehmani, and Lohar is now called Mughal. You can change the caste names, but the DNA will remain the same.
Are Arabs also 2% Indian?
Pakistan is a temporary state. Eventually apni shinakht samajh aayegi, to fir apna reason for existence nahi bachega.
Par wo possibe tabhi hai Agar islam mein pakistan mein science ke hisaab se open discussions ho. Detailed discussions ho.
Both supporting each other nicely :)). Go head. Kuch thorha bohat Punjab reh gaya hai Ap torh dalo 😮
Ped se kat kar tehni kabhi fal nahi de sakti,
Salman sir aap Bharat aaye aur apne akhon se dekhen koi masjid k upar jafrani rang nahi hy lekin yahan Jo b ho Raha hy woh yahan k miyanvo ka karni ka reaction hy ek aadmi Marta rahe aur dusra mar hamesha khatam rahe aise toh nahi ho sakta yahan k musalman b apne aapko arbhi samajne laghe hy toh unhe batana pad Raha hy ki tum b bhartiya ho bas itni si baat hy
read will durant ,
When I heard he is reading Richard Eaton, the biggest liar and a Hindu phobe's book, stopped listening, adding this comment and leaving the site.
Promilla is not the only historian. dont trust that to be final word
Salman Rashid sir have knowledge of old research or articles which don't have factual evidence. He is old so difficult to update which can be understand. He should read new research paper of Rakhigarhi and sinouli to update himself.
Romila thapar leftists historian hai
23:00, the rajput and jatts did exist in arabian peninsula & mesopotamia but they didn't come to india from there but they went to the arabian peninsula and mesopotamia from india.
They are called zat in arabic (zat = jatt) and some of them were serving as elite guards even during rashidun caliphate.
There is a huge controversy brewing in arab world where some of the members of the bani shayba family that carries the key of the kaaba generation over generation even before islam did take a dna test and it turned out they belonged to R1 haplogroup which is an indo-european haplogroup which is found in jatts too. Historically, bani shayba have been part of the quraysh tribe.
This is huge because the hashemite family of jordan who also belong to the banu hashim clan of quraysh tribe have been tested and their haplogroup is J1 which is consistent with the arabian dna profile.
A lot of so called syeds of south asia are turning out to be R1 which is an Indo-European haplogroup and found in south and west asia. Now, they are trying to float the idea that R1 is the actual quraysh haplogroup which is actually bullsh*t.
Those who have no cultural connection to Pakistan shouldn't call themselves indian or say even Bharati....
Aryavart was a settlers colony of Aryans from Indus Valley to gangetic planes. The latter have historically no independent identity.
If you look at the elite or creme de le creme of the gangetic society and meet them you'll discover that they claim Aryanic origins ...basically from PakAsthan....
Spelt differently to differentiate from present Pakistan of 47 onwards.
Every civilization has its history and we have ours. Nothing to be offended about it on any end of the political spectrum.
However the Indian Union is only "Partially Indian" ....
The lower Ganges and lower south isn't historically Indian nor culturally and genetically...
Zia's rule and principles of islamisation & indoctrination have helped BJP to take rigid stand on Hinduism. Otherwise, BJP would have failed.
Oh bhai bjp culture ki baat karti hai civilization ki baat karti hai wo fail nahi hogi kyuki sab local hai idhar samjha kyuki bjp identity crisis ki baat thodi karegi jo hai uski baat karegi na 😊
But there's no change of government or constitution every year in India like Pakistan.
🎉❤good jobs 🎉❤
Only the very brave can talk freely like you 🤔😅🙏🏻
Conversions which we have at the moment in India are either by force or some other form of lure. Just read about it rather than giving sweeping statements.
Wrong analysis on aryans mythology
Those brahmis were ancestors of slaves taken by turkic islamist kings
Yeah Indian historian like vikram sampat menakshi desai ke samne debate me Ek minute nahi tik sakte because they talk with evidence
Ha bhai 😅
Meenakshi jain
Pakitani history k naam pe sirf romila thapar or uske jese leftist ko hi padhte hai jb one sided narrative hi dekhoge to kya hi discussion karoge 😂😂😂😂 or ye log KK mohmmad ko kyu ni bulate koi Pakistani une ni bulata na unke research ko padta
Nation progress under the leadership of a leader. Pakistan has not found anyone till now. Those who claim to be leaders are just fake but people still accept them and blindidly follow them. The latest such leader is Imran Khan. people need a very deep introspection for a better future.
Excellent discussion. Both the guest and host are very intelligent and balanced intellectuals.
WIth due respect, please follow the latest archaeological sites and findings in India. Research the foundation of Aryan theory and make your rational judgement.
Do not blame britishers for islamic concept of two nation theory
What Zia did was according to Quran. He did no wrong.
Janab Salman Rashid ji
If you know, please let me know about ancestors of leaders like Sheeda Talli, Zaid Hameed in Pakistan. Such persons behave differently, their genes, DNA seems to be different from the Dravidian DNA which all of us possess.
As given to understand, my grandfather, father, Chach ji migrated from village Pindi Manhasan tehsil Zafarwal to Pathankot Panjab India. Nowadays I live at Pathankot about a hundred kms from Jallandhar city, home city of your ancestors. May God bless all of you. Thanks.
Theek hi baat hai, jo kayar the, wahi mazhab badal kar Musalman ho gaye.
Hum to abhi bhi Hindu hi hain.
India has given up Aryan theory. Read history again.
If you see election where Muslim league wanted pakistan was mainly in Bengal and Bihar and up and some extent to middle part of India but what happened they created pakistan in Punjab,sindh,Balochistan and so on where people never wanted pakistan.
19:35 there no evidence of chandragupta being ashokas grand FATHER....also the chandragupta theory is made as per assumptiona by Britishers by taking up the name from purans... Which they assumed to be Chandra gupta of maurya Dynasty and whole India history is written using this timeline.... Coz they specifically wanted to show that India or Bharat or sindhu was just a tribal land....
And same context was used to as aryan theory....as well .... COZ they wanted to show jesus and Christian period domination in world history
With genetic dna mapping aryan invasion theory has been proven false .... There no dna difference b/w an adivasi dna and a dna of other regions except few exceptions of northeast India and Pakistan bordered areas....
Have a look at Dr. vineet Aggarwal work realted to it....
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Very beautiful and good conversation.
Thank you
We are descendants of shudars and dalits
Abe majority converted upper caste the..rona band kar😂😂
most Pakistanis are Rajputs, Jatts, Gujjars, arain, syeds, etc. none of them are shudra
Pagal hai kya rajput tujhe shudra lagte hai gujjar tujhe shudra lagte hai 😅😁
Cheema, bajwa, rajput, malik, gill, bakshi, syed, jutt ???
@@M_R___974 they are all Hindu Gotra.
Didn’t Europe have nobles and the gentry?
انگریزی زبان کے بارے میں بھی کچھ عرض کردیتے اور عیسائی کنورڑن کیسے کرتے تھے یا باوا آدم کے زمانے سے عیسائی پیدا ہوئے؟
A lot of yalll are confused.
Pakistanis mostly are local converts. Fine! Move on now.
There are so many andhbhakts listening Salman sahab.
Better than Andh Namaazi😂😂😂😂
Bas so called liberals or Pakistanis k liye ROMILA Thapar ne jo kaha sahi h. Aise toh pure duniya me hazaro saalo purane statues mile h hindu god k even in south america and Saudi. Toh ye Maan le ki o b India ka part tha. Kuchh b 😅 ek book read kr k bol rha h sanskrit Syria se aayi wow. Khud b research kr le . Hi du scripture se sare description milega hindus, India and sanskrit ka.
Identity isn't through blood but through ideas that why Pakistani identity is Ideology of Islam. No confusion at all. Dara Shikoh and Aurangzeb were real brothers but totally different.
Aurangzeb killed his brother Dara Shukoh.So he was different and great follower of his ideology
@@prashantpatekar5656 incapable of higher thought
Great Sir 😂😂😂😂🎉❤🎉❤😅
so much respect is given to these frauds by Hindus in comment section, don't know when we will learn.
Ariyan nhi Aryans you are also Aryans(Hindu) they are our ancestors wrote vedas.
Bhai . Don't write ARYAN THE term aryan is very much incorrect. English is a very incomplete language . And if we write Aryan. In sanskrit it will mean that a person who is not arya आर्यन =>आर्य + अन्। which means a person who is not arya . Instead of Aryan use the term ARYA . In sanskrit also it is written as आर्य. The Europeans are non arya. Bhartiyas are not
Sindh and south Punjab mn Arabic families Jo raja Dahir K period aur umavi ,abbasis conflicts mn boht Saray Makhdom, Gailani,Shahs ,qureshi etc settled hoay phir local natives Sindhi and south Punjab K logon KO jagirdari ,vadaira system mn jakar Diya..jis ki waja se Indus civilization jis mn sab equal thay koi zat pat nhn milti iss jaisi traditions bilkul khatam ho gai..yahi waja hai instinct Dravidian of civilization bilkul he disappear ho Gaya..Punjabi sindhi saraiki ka koi conflicts hai he nhn kyu K ye sab Aryans, Dravidian, Ka mixtures he Hain.. DNA mn sab eik he hn
Kindly forget the past and work for better future these people never do anything in past for future generations and after retirement they blame to past tor failures
Sir ji galib aur Iqbal ne Pakistan ka bera gark kar diya😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
iqbal for sure, but why ghalib? what did the poor chap have to do with partition?
India ke dalit koi islam me convert nahi hote agar hote bhi hai toh bahut kam,waise hi muslim bhi alag religion me convert hote hai,wo bhi kam hi hote hai..agar dalit muslim ya Christian ban jata hai toh fir unhe reservation nahi milta isliye kam log hi islam me convert hote hai..
Aap leftist historians ko hi padte ho shayad..
Fojio ne humara ye haal kya hai😢
Batao 😂
Jim logo ne khud ki history tabah kr di wo India par ilzam laga rahe hai 😅
Salman sir panjab ke musalmano ke man me hinduwo ke khilaf sirf jahar bhara hai magar hindustan me kisike bare me nafrat nahi sikhayee.
Sanskrit Tamil se Nikli h
Ek ghar main do bhai they ek ne kha main apke sath ni rahunga usne apna alag ghar bana liya ab wo ye soch raha hai k main apne bhai ke jaisa hu ya kisi doosre continent ka hu😂😂😂
Apka part punjab ka hai language punjabi hai national language urdu hai jo lucknow ki hai...culture indian hai ..tussi kitthe arbi banne chale ho...arbi chodo urdu bhi samjh aandi hai twanu😂😂😂
13:38 apni history padho