ThinkFest 2024: The Historical Golden Age and Contemporary Crisis in the Muslim World

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  • čas přidán 12. 03. 2024
  • Delve into the historical context and contemporary challenges facing the Muslim world and explore "The Historical Golden Age and Contemporary Crisis in the Muslim World" with our distinguished speakers:
    🎙 Pervez Hoodbhoy, Physicist & Analyst
    🎙 Syed Muzammil Shah, Journalist & Political Analyst

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  • @dineshshetty875
    @dineshshetty875 Před 2 měsíci +290

    We Hindus of India thank Jinnah for segregating the jihadis by forming Pakistan...
    Thanks a lot..

    • @bakuldada7838
      @bakuldada7838 Před 2 měsíci +40

      They could get more muslims from india by having a similar caa law for so called persecuted indian muslims.

    • @DipakBose-bq1vv
      @DipakBose-bq1vv Před 2 měsíci

      We lost Abdul Samad and Javed Karim

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci +4

      You must be sanatani with one nation theory aka hindutva aka Hindu Pakistan of Modi......as communal as two nations theory

    • @suerayss
      @suerayss Před 2 měsíci +13

      But we messed really bad but by listening to gandhi and nehru and not having a full population exchange. We now have have regressive dark bad ideas of Islam problem in 3 countries.

    • @shreeyanksinghvi7748
      @shreeyanksinghvi7748 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@DipakBose-bq1vv are u expelled Bangladeshi Hindu ?

  • @AryaArsh
    @AryaArsh Před 2 měsíci +118

    *_Pervez Hoodbhouy Ko Samjh Agya Ki Ab Vo Buddhe Hogye. Ab Jannat Ki Taiyari Suru.😂Soft Molvi Banna Suru.😂Hndu Nafrat Se Jannat Milegi😂._*

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Před 2 měsíci +23

      He has become typical Pakistani liberal. Who always talk abt India b4 talking abt anything abt pakistan. Often talks more abt Indian Muslims and rarely abt Hindus in pakistan .
      He lives in pakistan has He done anything for pakistani Hindus . NO 😂😂 I like this muzammil guy who atleast focus on pakistan and doesn't talk abt India abt which he doesn't know much

    • @prajnar813
      @prajnar813 Před 2 měsíci

      @@GuzzarAwan Exactly . typical Pakistani liberal . And there in lies the problem with muslims of the subcontinent . They are not inward looking . They keep finding what issues Hindus and others are having . They know it is impossible to reform the society . So find fault with other communities, and mix it up and feed your community . No clear vision , no stated goals for the community .
      Prof .Hoodbhoy talks about Ram and questioned his origin which is fine , but he cannot do the same to Allah/Rasool and that is exactly what is ailing this community all over the world and will continue to ail with no end in sight .

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci

      Hi andhbhkt from cow belt jahil Hindi state, apne state ko sudhar lo kachara he ek no ka....Pakistan aur uslims ke alava kuch aur bat Karo

    • @Tug748
      @Tug748 Před 2 měsíci

      Mr Hoodbhouy is Hindu/India hater.

    • @madanprakash7445
      @madanprakash7445 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Perfect 👍

  • @boostergold4101
    @boostergold4101 Před 2 měsíci +47

    syed qustioned about word "hum" as arab and pervez smartly moved away from question 😀😀😀

    • @saifalikhan3843
      @saifalikhan3843 Před měsícem +2

      Nationalism is sum of religious identity and cultural identity

  • @unwanted0907
    @unwanted0907 Před 2 měsíci +104

    Mr Syed Muzammil, what I found in Pakistan is everyone knows what are the ills plaguing Pakistan, but nobody has got concrete solutions. Every talk show agrees that something is wrong but everyone is scared to name. Too much of religion in every sphere of life will take you to blackhole. Just being proud on what happened 400 years ago will not take you anywhere in contemporary period.

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Před 2 měsíci +5

      Everyone also knows what needs to be done in terms of solution. The challenge is the duplicity aspect. Even a solution needs to be packaged as something else.

    • @utubetruthteller
      @utubetruthteller Před 2 měsíci +10

      solution is leaving Islam and become normal which is not possible so its hopeless situation

    • @hotfun07
      @hotfun07 Před 2 měsíci +3

      None of the achievements Mr. Hoodbhoy is talking about was done by a Sub Continent Muslim.
      They were mostly Arab and few Central Asian or Persian.
      10:48 Muzzamil CORRECTLY interjects Hoodbhoy.

    • @ratnakamal1
      @ratnakamal1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@hotfun07 I completely agree and said so. It is not even the so-called Muslim World, more Arab/Persian World. It is said that one falls on the glories of the past to escape from the miseries of the present.

    • @jojijoseph6485
      @jojijoseph6485 Před 2 měsíci

      What you can expect from people who are scared of Polio Vaccine

  • @user-ky6oj7js7q
    @user-ky6oj7js7q Před 2 měsíci +170

    Hoodbhoy transitioning from physicist to teaching to half cracked historian to soft islamist to hardcore islamist ,,,,,,,,,,,,,god knows before he start wearing waist

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +38

      99% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂

    • @BraminWarrior
      @BraminWarrior Před 2 měsíci +25

      Perfect understanding of Mulla Hoodboy😂

    • @Darsh_Yadav_69
      @Darsh_Yadav_69 Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@priyankashokeen8517😂😂😂 itna sach nahi bolna tha 😂😂😂😂

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci

      Hindus and hindutva always love science but jaahil hoodboy thinks Islam is similar to Hinduism 🤣

    • @alizu3803
      @alizu3803 Před 2 měsíci

      religious parties won 0 seats in parliament. So no I think. Its a pakistani tradition to give religious touch to everything@@priyankashokeen8517

  • @madanprakash7445
    @madanprakash7445 Před 2 měsíci +76

    All so called Scholars from Pak deliberately avoids mentioning Bharat, our History, our contribution towards Mathematics, Astronomy 🙄

    • @Affair24
      @Affair24 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Bhai Jaan Pyari hai😂😂😂😂

    • @bodo451
      @bodo451 Před 2 měsíci +3

      aap inse satya narayan ki katha sun na chahte hai kya

    • @AlphaVlogs-do2hg
      @AlphaVlogs-do2hg Před 2 měsíci

      You contributed in science by eating gobar and cowurine 😂😂

    • @AlphaVlogs-do2hg
      @AlphaVlogs-do2hg Před 2 měsíci

      Wow mathematics Astronomy..haha very funny you contributed ...😂😂😂

    • @jyd3490
      @jyd3490 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Wo inki aukat se bahr hai thts why not mentioned...Islam is failure..all these inventions or ideas are credited to Hindus

  • @SP.05
    @SP.05 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Hinduism has a Goddess of Learning, Knowledge & Arts... "Ma Saraswati"

  • @ratnakamal1
    @ratnakamal1 Před 2 měsíci +79

    My two favorite intellectuals - Prof Hobhoy and the young (relatively) Shah. Didn’t ancient Bharat have mathematics, algebra, astronomy, and surgery many many years before the Muslim world, and much of this knowledge was carried to the Muslim world by the Arab traders?

    • @madanprakash7445
      @madanprakash7445 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Perfect 👍

    • @madanprakash7445
      @madanprakash7445 Před 2 měsíci

      Problem is Pakistani always deny their ancient Hindu past, ancient tradition, culture, History. They speak as if they are Arabic or Persian 😁😁

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Hindutva and Hindus love science

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe Před 2 měsíci

      these chuts will know about greek science but not that which is all around them

    • @BraminWarrior
      @BraminWarrior Před 2 měsíci +4

      Perfect..❤

  • @NikhilUttrakhandi
    @NikhilUttrakhandi Před 2 měsíci +29

    I have been following Hoodbhoy since 15 years now, he is considered to be a freethinker or something like a leftiberal in Pakistan. Now can you imagine any Indian leftist academician or even a simple liberal one talking about pan Hinduism or greater Indosohere( called innocently akhand bharat by Indian rightists) or calling a particular "Hindu age" as Golden period. By portraying himself as a "liberal" he has never avoided taking foward soft Islamism.
    This my friends is the prime difference between India and Pakistan and yes we are different people !

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Totally different. They are afro-middle east people. Norhing to do with us genetically, culturally or anything. Yes, they have taken big chunks of our culture and language(s), but we have nothing in common. We need a super hard boarder between the countries.

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 Před 27 dny

      That is a problem for Hindus then, and it is because the average Hindu suffers from an inferiority complex.
      The Westerners openly celebrate their golden periods; whether it is the renaissance, the scientific revolution or the industrial revolution. Similarly Muslims celebrate their period of advancement when they had great minds and were excelling in science.
      Why doesn't the Hindu celebrate their own achievements? That's a YOU problem. And yes agree, we are different.

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 Před 27 dny

      Indians don't talk about their golden age because they suffer from an inferiority complex. The Westerners openly boast about their renaissance, scientific revolution and industrial revolution; similarly Muslims boast about their golden era of achievements.
      If you don't boast about yours, that's a YOU problem.

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 Před 27 dny

      The Chinese proudly boast about their golden age and scientific achievements. The Westerners proudly boast about their scientific and industrial revolutions. If Muslims are doing it there is nothing wrong. Question is, why are your people suffering from a complex that they don't boast about their own achievements?

    • @bhnuc
      @bhnuc Před 20 dny

      Yes we have nothing in common. It may seem good in Coke Studio comment section but in hard practical world, Subcontinent's muslims are different in most spheres from Hindus. 47 ki leadership ka total population exchange na karna was a grave mistake for Hindus.

  • @user-hj6ps8pj1b
    @user-hj6ps8pj1b Před 2 měsíci +47

    Its amazing they talk about the Golden age of Arabs whereas their forefathers were part of a Golden age that happened centuries before that in their own land. Inki baat hi shuru hoti hey 632 CE sey!! Unfortunately this is their cause of failure!!

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Před 2 měsíci +2

      Or fortunately!

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci +2

      Tribes ne kon si scientific discoveries kar li?
      Before Islam, Whole are Arabia was divided into small tribes .

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci +1

      So there was light before islam brought its religious darkness 😢😢😢

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 Před 27 dny

      It is because the modern descendants of those Hindus suffer from an inferiority complex and do not celebrate their own achievements. Tell me something? If Hindus were openly proud about their scientific achievements and would confidently tell the world what their civilization has given it, don't you think they would get credit for it?
      Of course they would, but the average Hindu still suffers from an inferiority complex and as such does not tell the world everything they have contributed in history.
      Hence in the West, they know about Sun -Tzu or Machiavelli but no one knows about Chanakya. In the West they know about, Ibn Rushd, Ibn Sina, Ghazali, Confucius, Tao; but no one knows about Sushruta. If you're own people don't proudly present their history, don't expect others to care either.

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 Před 27 dny

      Because you don't promote your golden age, your own people don't know about it. The educated Indian knows about Machiavelli and Sun-Tzu but does not know about Chanakya. Because you suffer from an inferiority complex; The Chinese, Westerners and Muslims don't suffer from this complex hence they promote and celebrate their past achievements.

  • @Payalpatel71257
    @Payalpatel71257 Před 2 měsíci +63

    Mr perveze is a great mulla&maulavi

    • @bala8669
      @bala8669 Před 2 měsíci +4

      🤣

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +6

      99% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂

  • @illubabuk408
    @illubabuk408 Před 2 měsíci +26

    There are no disruptions in the pro Muslim rants from Pakistan.. old gin in a different package ..Muzammil ji aap bhi🥱

  • @rktubemusic
    @rktubemusic Před 2 měsíci +41

    Most of the akistanis including iqbal, jinnah and even Hoodbhoy etc were converted hardly few genration back. Will Hoodbhoy like to present his well researched views on the contributions of his Hindu forefathers?

    • @maheshA1316
      @maheshA1316 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Decease in paxtan and lam is deep...they won't accept hidu contribution...

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +6

      99% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂....

    • @azeemmirza8545
      @azeemmirza8545 Před 2 měsíci +2

      a good question

  • @ysmalik8690
    @ysmalik8690 Před 2 měsíci +48

    A self-limiting unity exists to bind Muslims together, preventing Muslim communities from being able to openly criticize, question Quran and Islamic belief system and the causes of its failure in the modern world. This is because right in childhood their individuality and critical thinking ability, in fact their Self, has already been surrendered to the Ummah.

    • @randomteenboy
      @randomteenboy Před 2 měsíci +1

      lies...lies...lies...
      >Iqbal did same critique as ghazzali, ibn al haythm, kant and david hume said but this doesnot mean that they were against it but they criticize metaphysics that it is unable to prove something objectively "reason is an ought to be the slave of passion" just like what science did...the greeks also failed because they focused more on metaphysics rather than science...
      >ghazzali wrote in his book what that its communal obligation and Farz e kafayah to learn natural philosophy/ science or any subject that can help community to grow... he further said its biggest crime against religion to oppse them in his last last books after becomming sufi....
      >the deviation from mutazilah school and critique of greeks led to formation of scientific method by ashariah such as ibn al haythm and al biruni which later inspired rene descartes and other european scientits.
      >according to quantum mechanics universe is undetermined and cuase / effect are not fundamental and we cant predict next moment with certainity and the reality is falling in certain trajectory due to observer effect....casuality is only a belief based on our past experience like what david hume says "Science is the faith that the future will behave like the past"
      >Israel is backed by usa thats why its doing this other wise it even fears from iran...
      >karl marx which influenced your intellectual ammar ali jan viewed interest as a form of profit derived from the exploitation of labor. and even soviet banned interests.... but you feel aversion towards moududi....
      >ottoman banned printing only for arabic texts at that time turkish was written in arabic letters. printing in latin was permited. they did it to protect jobs and buisness of calligraphers....just like now people like joe biden are demanding to ban AI as it wil take jobs which may not have substitute.....
      >just like religious concepts philosophical are also unbale to resolve.....
      prominent neuro scientist andrew huberman says alcohol is dangerous for mental health it may cause deaths...in westren countries DMT and psychedelics which did not caused any death or severe harms are banned....
      thats why we call them pseudo intellectuals....

    • @sitarampradhan8488
      @sitarampradhan8488 Před 2 měsíci

      Copy paste propaganda​@@randomteenboy

    • @Dharmveersingh-iu2bp
      @Dharmveersingh-iu2bp Před 2 měsíci

      A virus made by man middle in the desert

    • @jokepore1532
      @jokepore1532 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@randomteenboybeta g Playstation ka flag lagane se kuch ji ukhad paoge. Aaj Muslims evolution ko ni mante jismpe maximum biological science based hai. Aur laha tum batein kr rahe ho criticism ki jab kitne sare muslim countries mein apostasy laws hain

    • @ghalibhussain8490
      @ghalibhussain8490 Před měsícem

      untill Muslim world don't realise that education science and technology and liberalism is needed throughout the Muslim world.their no slight chance of improvement and betterment.

  • @Interstellar2123
    @Interstellar2123 Před 2 měsíci +47

    thank you jinnah

  • @amanprakash7692
    @amanprakash7692 Před 2 měsíci +66

    Golden days 😂😂by looting gold ,historic robbers,this was your economic model 😂😂😂😂

    • @maheshA1316
      @maheshA1316 Před 2 měsíci

      It is simple man ...ilam never accepts science and changes...

    • @kumarshanu6229
      @kumarshanu6229 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Jizya and maal e ghanimat economy!!🤣

    • @sudeepkalkandha1785
      @sudeepkalkandha1785 Před 2 měsíci

      4:08 Yes Jurm kiya h Palestine par abey Jihadiyo jo tum jagah jagah par fat te ho uska kya

    • @jetbllackwings
      @jetbllackwings Před 2 měsíci

      unlike india who is robbing from it’s own states. stealing from the poor and giving it to rhe rich.

    • @chanderparkash8408
      @chanderparkash8408 Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly

  • @dharmascan
    @dharmascan Před 2 měsíci +65

    Leave science it has never been cup of tea in the Muslim world. Become Hafiz. Read koran with translation. That's enough. The whole world is reading koran.

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Hi andhbhakt from cow belt

    • @sahanazperven9804
      @sahanazperven9804 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@nikhildeshmukh6221😂😂😂😂😂😂😂chuslim Tum Kya science parogi Tum Quran paro or camel urin piyo

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@nikhildeshmukh622199% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@@nikhildeshmukh6221I am a proud andhbhakt because cow gave us milk cheese butter curd and work in farming but why pig is papa for Muslims why pig is holy animal in Islam why Muslims don't eat pig meat 😊

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@nikhildeshmukh6221if one glass is half full we can say it both ways half empty or half full similarly if Pakistan for Muslims than India not for Muslims 😊

  • @bala8669
    @bala8669 Před 2 měsíci +192

    Million thanks to Jinnah who saved india from most of green snakes and green cancer. He deserves Bharat Ratna award 🎉

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 Před 2 měsíci +19

      total poplu. xchange karna tha ..... hhindus and mmosslim cannot live together.

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, but unfortunately Modi is again bringing cancer to India in the orange Color.........tanatani from cow belt jahil Hindi state with communal ideology of one nation theory aka hindutva

    • @mrinal1129
      @mrinal1129 Před 2 měsíci

      Muslims cannot live with others,they will always try to dominate others

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Před 2 měsíci +1

      Please petition Modi. He has a knack of selection for various awards.

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +19

      99% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂

  • @ravivasudeva1428
    @ravivasudeva1428 Před 2 měsíci +43

    ISLAMIC people have never INVENTED ANYTHING during whatever age you take. They only did COPY from Bharat, Copy from ROME, and Greece. Can you name one invention of ISLAMIC countries during the golden age?

    • @maheshA1316
      @maheshA1316 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If you ask more they will tell...it's all taken from the book and it already existed The book world copied it

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci

      You are living in your own paradise

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci

      @@maheshA1316 Just like Indian philosophers do?
      When ever someone quote Plato or Socrates's ideology on a state, Indians always outrages- stating that this was written in our purana or chanakya had mentioned it?
      I mean Indian history had great philosophers and scientists but yeah, it's about the perception

    • @laalbujhakkar
      @laalbujhakkar Před 2 měsíci +1

      Invention of gadgets is application of science. Did they come up with original ideas? that's debatable.

    • @AlphaVlogs-do2hg
      @AlphaVlogs-do2hg Před 2 měsíci

      Bharat invented this💩

  • @ExmuslimBengali
    @ExmuslimBengali Před 2 měsíci +155

    WHAT TO DO ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE WITH PAKISTANI ? WHO just converted from hindus ? your golden age is maurya empire , gupta empire , aryabhata , vaharamir and others great ancient mind not islamic - you just converted by fear of sowrd . thats it - ex muslim agnostic .

    • @Vanita1.0
      @Vanita1.0 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Correct sir

    • @OnkarSingh-qu9ns
      @OnkarSingh-qu9ns Před 2 měsíci

      Hindu's converted to Islam due to fear of sword and the biggest reason was zazia,because zazia collectors used to spit on the hand or mouth of Hindus

    • @ErHajiHussain
      @ErHajiHussain Před 2 měsíci +2

      U r very narrow minded. Plz go through books of Murtaza Mutahhary

    • @saitandale8482
      @saitandale8482 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@ErHajiHussain 😂😂😂😂

    • @LullahuMulla
      @LullahuMulla Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ErHajiHussainJo Khud Converted Hai Wo Hi Sabse Bade Musalman Ban Rahe Hai Jahil Ganwar Madarsa Chaap Converted 😂😂😂

  • @AR-yk1kv
    @AR-yk1kv Před 2 měsíci +2

    What a great man between us. We’re lucky to have
    Thank you Dr Parvez sb
    Best wishes from USA 🇺🇸

  • @bijayagarwal9842
    @bijayagarwal9842 Před 2 měsíci +32

    Jinnah ko tahe dil se salaam for seperating bharat from zombies

    • @bala8669
      @bala8669 Před 2 měsíci

      ,
      😂

    • @jetbllackwings
      @jetbllackwings Před 2 měsíci +1

      then why are you still watching us? you miss us that much?

    • @Factman09
      @Factman09 Před měsícem

      ​@@jetbllackwingskyoki tum hamara khun ho 😂 kapde bdlne se body nhi bdlti bachche 🤣

  • @sagjoshi
    @sagjoshi Před 2 měsíci +15

    Sir 90% of all Pakistani problem can be solved through Internet, Hoodboy has very myopic vision

  • @tahirmirza8521
    @tahirmirza8521 Před 2 měsíci +24

    The first in the audience's questions were exactly what is our level of ignorance. Shocking and arrogant.

    • @randomteenboy
      @randomteenboy Před 2 měsíci

      lies...lies...lies...
      >Iqbal did same critique as ghazzali, ibn al haythm, kant and david hume said but this doesnot mean that they were against it but they criticize metaphysics that it is unable to prove something objectively "reason is an ought to be the slave of passion" just like what science did...the greeks also failed because they focused more on metaphysics rather than science...
      >ghazzali wrote in his book what that its communal obligation and Farz e kafayah to learn natural philosophy/ science or any subject that can help community to grow... he further said its biggest crime against religion to oppse them in his last last books after becomming sufi....
      >the deviation from mutazilah school and critique of greeks led to formation of scientific method by ashariah such as ibn al haythm and al biruni which later inspired rene descartes and other european scientits.
      >according to quantum mechanics universe is undetermined and cuase / effect are not fundamental and we cant predict next moment with certainity and the reality is falling in certain trajectory due to observer effect....casuality is only a belief based on our past experience like what david hume says "Science is the faith that the future will behave like the past"
      >Israel is backed by usa thats why its doing this other wise it even fears from iran...
      >karl marx which influenced your intellectual ammar ali jan viewed interest as a form of profit derived from the exploitation of labor. and even soviet banned interests.... but you feel aversion towards moududi....
      >ottoman banned printing only for arabic texts at that time turkish was written in arabic letters. printing in latin was permited. they did it to protect jobs and buisness of calligraphers....just like now people like joe biden are demanding to ban AI as it wil take jobs which may not have substitute.....
      >just like religious concepts philosophical are also unbale to resolve.....
      prominent neuro scientist andrew huberman says alcohol is dangerous for mental health it may cause deaths...in westren countries DMT and psychedelics which did not caused any death or severe harms are banned....
      thats why we call them pseudo intellectuals....

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci +3

      Oh bhai if you’re listening from 9:00 min to 20 min
      There was literally THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE WAS THERE BEFORE ISLAM. 800 bc Islamic nation accepted Greeks Romans knowledge and science grow tremendously until MULLAH’S GULLA invented 😂😂

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci +1

      According to these gentlemen Light of knowledge was there before Islam till it was flicked by mullahs 1100 ad 😅😅

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci +1

      These guys are telling the truth, and only the truth will set you free 😢

  • @Dharmveersingh-iu2bp
    @Dharmveersingh-iu2bp Před 2 měsíci +65

    Jis golden period ki tum bat kr rhe ho us period me tumare ancestors ki jbr dasti topiya kt rhi thi😂😂

    • @urrasscal8380
      @urrasscal8380 Před 2 měsíci +18

      koi golden period nahi tha yeh sab jizya period tha.

    • @corpsertag5967
      @corpsertag5967 Před 2 měsíci

      that golden period was when musalmaan converted to murtads and munafiqs. And then again they went into musalmaan mode... 😅

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hi bro UP se ho ya Bihar se
      ....aise andhbhakt wahi se paye jate he ... Cow belt jahil Hindi states with their communal ideology of one nation theory aka hindutva

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Kaun si topi? 😅

    • @madanprakash7445
      @madanprakash7445 Před 2 měsíci

      @@nikhildeshmukh6221 Fake ID of Kafir, Mohammad was also Fake, Hypocrite 😁😁

  • @Dillli
    @Dillli Před 2 měsíci +55

    Science and Islam don’t go together !! 😂

  • @sagjoshi
    @sagjoshi Před 2 měsíci +18

    Pervaz hoodboy is just a bookworm , he is just a frog in d pond. 😂😂😂

  • @rameshrajs8140
    @rameshrajs8140 Před 2 měsíci +17

    As an Hindu I am feeling proud 🙏

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před 2 měsíci +2

      99% Pakistani wants Pakistan a Islamic nation but all Pakistani wants India a secular nation hypocrisy lvl 100%😂

    • @jetbllackwings
      @jetbllackwings Před 2 měsíci

      proud of who? 😂😂😂 your stone gods?

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před měsícem

      @@jetbllackwings Hindu worship rivers trees and nature without them humans are nothing

    • @priyankashokeen8517
      @priyankashokeen8517 Před měsícem

      @@jetbllackwings Hindus and India oldest living civilization Greek, Romans, Mayan and Sumerian died and lost but we will going strong

  • @aanakrukavi
    @aanakrukavi Před 2 měsíci +9

    Advaita Vedanta, Madhyamika Buddhism is a perfect Rational Philosophy for 21st century.

    • @atrauli
      @atrauli Před 2 měsíci

      Hello, would you give me a gist of what these philosophies mean?

    • @surinderchowdhury
      @surinderchowdhury Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@atrauligo do your own research.

    • @harshnaik6989
      @harshnaik6989 Před 2 měsíci

      @@atrauli ​ @user-un2ve5eg7o The six Darshanas, also known as the six schools of Indian philosophy, are:
      1) Samkhya: Founded by Kapila Muni, Samkhya is a rationalist school of philosophy that denies the existence of God and believes in the dual existence of Purusha (consciousness) and Prakriti (matter)
      2)Yoga: Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes meditation and moral virtues as means to liberation12.
      3) Nyaya: Founded by Gautama Rishi, Nyaya is the school of logic and epistemology. It believes in a systematic investigation of the nature of things through logic
      4) Vaisheshika: Founded by Kanada Rishi, Vaisheshika is a naturalist school of atomism and believes in a detailed enumeration of the universe’s physical realities
      5) Mimamsa: Jaimini’s Mimamsa Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes the ritualistic aspects of the Vedas and the power of the mantras
      6 ) Vedanta: Based on the Brahma Sutras of Badarayana or Vyasa, Vedanta is the school of Upanishadic philosophy. It explores the concepts of Brahman (ultimate reality) and Atman (individual soul)
      These six schools of thought offer unique perspectives and paths towards the ultimate reality, each with its own philosophical underpinnings
      As for the great philosophies of ancient India, they include both orthodox (astika) systems, namely, the Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva-Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), and Vedanta schools of philosophy, and unorthodox (nastika) systems, such as Buddhism and Jainism3. These philosophies have been concerned with various philosophical problems, significant among which are the nature of the world (cosmology), the nature of reality (metaphysics), logic, the nature of knowledge (epistemology), ethics, and the philosophy of religion
      --->Ancient India was home to several schools of thought that did not believe in the existence of God. Here are some of them:
      1) Charvaka (Lokayata): This school of Indian materialism is considered one of the atheistic schools in the Hindu tradition. It rejected the authority of the Vedas and the notion of an afterlife, advocating for a hedonistic life
      2) Samkhya: While it is an orthodox (Astika) school of Hindu philosophy, Samkhya denies the existence of God or any other exterior influence. However, unlike other atheist schools of thought, it did not deny the existence of all things transcendent
      3) Purva Mimamsa: This school, while accepting the authority of the Vedas, typically rejects a personal god, creator god, or a god with attributes
      4 ) Ajñana: This was a skeptical school of ancient Indian philosophy. The Ajñana were the skeptics of their time and questioned the reliability of all sources of knowledge
      5) Buddhism and Jainism: While these are not typically classified as atheistic schools, they do not advocate for the worship of gods and instead focus on personal spiritual development
      6) Nagarjuna, who lived around the 2nd century CE, is widely considered one of the most important Buddhist philosophers. He is traditionally regarded as the founder of the Madhyamaka (“Middle Way”) school, an important tradition of Mahayana Buddhist philosophy
      Here are some key teachings of Nagarjuna:
      Doctrine of Emptiness (Shunyata): Nagarjuna is best known for his doctrine of emptiness (shunyata), which he developed in his most famous work, the Mulamadhyamakakarika (“Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way”). This doctrine asserts that all phenomena are empty of “self-nature” or “essence”, meaning they have no independent reality apart from the causes and conditions from which they arise
      Two Truths Doctrine: Nagarjuna proposed the Two Truths Doctrine, which differentiates between conventional truth (the reality we experience in everyday life) and ultimate truth (the ultimate reality as understood by enlightened minds).
      Dependent Origination: Nagarjuna emphasized the concept of dependent origination, which states that all phenomena arise in dependence upon other phenomena
      Madhyamaka Philosophy: Nagarjuna’s Madhyamaka philosophy rejects all philosophical views and propositions, arguing that accepting any of them as ultimately true leads to suffering
      Mahayana Buddhism: Nagarjuna was a proponent of the Mahayana school, which emphasizes the idea of the bodhisattva, or one who seeks to become a Buddha. He defended the Mahayana sutras as the authentic word of the Buddha.
      Nagarjuna’s teachings have had a profound influence on the development of Buddhist thought, not only in India but also in East Asia and Tibet

    • @suvosingho-pp9xf
      @suvosingho-pp9xf Před 2 měsíci +1

      Advaita Vedanta is completely science
      mind blogging philosophy!

  • @sarvendra14
    @sarvendra14 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Md jinnah was superhero to divide green from india ..

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes there should have been three nation theory.......one for secular India , second for green cancer and third for orange cancer of UP bihari cow belt jahil Hindi states

  • @dineshrai2051
    @dineshrai2051 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you Muzammil for slapping HUM on a scientific intellectual mouth🎉🎉 great👍, a Muslim only not scientist.

  • @Kool29
    @Kool29 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Greatest contribution of Mohd Ali Jinnah is segregrating the trash and gold.. Thank you Jinnah.. U foresight was unbeatable.. U deserve Bharat Ratna..Request Indian Govt to consider the request.❤❤

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake Před 2 měsíci +18

    Muzammil turned Pro Islamic because of Modi Jee.

    • @maheshA1316
      @maheshA1316 Před 2 měsíci +3

      What Modi did to him...

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Před 2 měsíci

      @@maheshA1316 Nothing, Mostly these Intellectuals are anti religion because they are rich elites who want to keep in power by any means. After BJP success they lost their partners in India so they are furious and want to use common Muslims as bait again.

    • @JaiShivrai
      @JaiShivrai Před 2 měsíci +3

      Pakistaniyon ke liye toh Modi ji hi sab kar rahe hain😂😂😂

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Ha ha ha.

    • @dollartreeshark6786
      @dollartreeshark6786 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Modiji sabka tight karke rakhe hain

  • @sant.76
    @sant.76 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is amazing that these Muslims really believe in Umma.

  • @venex2611
    @venex2611 Před 2 měsíci +17

    There was no Islamic Golden age or Islamic science... everything was from Hindu Bharat.... everything

    • @sk61186
      @sk61186 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Oh....you spoiled their party!

  • @rakadus
    @rakadus Před 2 měsíci +8

    Brilliant question from Syed "Who are the "we"?

  • @atulkumar-pr4yo
    @atulkumar-pr4yo Před 2 měsíci +10

    Sir time has come to introspect by Muslim community. In present world one is talking of atrocities by western world. But what muslim community has done in the past is being not discussed. Be it india or other parts of world islam has spread on the strength of Swoard and forcible conversion of non muslim and destruction of their relegious places. Fatah is the essence of Islamic philosphy. Hogia Sofia chruch in Turkey has been converted into Mosque, attack on Somnath temple, Ayodhya and Mathura.

    • @muhammadansarahmed6039
      @muhammadansarahmed6039 Před 2 měsíci

      yep FORCEFULL conversion and the first muslims and muslim mosque of the sub-continent is in kerala cheraman juma mosque was built by its ruler in prophet's (PBUH) own lifetime and you know what percent of muslims are there after 1500 hundred years of presence of ISLAM only 26 percent. this is simply BJP and islamophobic propaganda.

  • @mos9139
    @mos9139 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Just like any other channel, Indians watch this channel more than Pakistanis.

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci

      Why so?

    • @whocareswhoami7278
      @whocareswhoami7278 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.

    • @KarthikAlagan
      @KarthikAlagan Před 2 měsíci +2

      We love comedies 😂

    • @Factman09
      @Factman09 Před měsícem

      Because we love entertainment ❤😂

    • @rishabh8355
      @rishabh8355 Před měsícem

      well one reason could be they enjoy great internet plans which don't burn a hole in the pocket.

  • @hello3524
    @hello3524 Před 2 měsíci +9

    More then science, Islam need to allow critical thinking, rest every thing will follow automatically, including science, Politics, morality or character.

  • @bambamkumarjha8120
    @bambamkumarjha8120 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Islam in brain 🧠 goes out . Because there is no space left for question ❓. Thinking abilities 🤔 becomes....

  • @AR-yk1kv
    @AR-yk1kv Před 2 měsíci +2

    What a beautiful explanation by Dr Parvez
    Thank you very much .

  • @mustafajamali4620
    @mustafajamali4620 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great personalities syed muzammil shah and pervaiz sahab God bless them.

  • @Unknown-sh8kw
    @Unknown-sh8kw Před 2 měsíci +5

    Science, Medicine, Mathematics existed in Bharat centuries ago before Islam came into existence

    • @atrauli
      @atrauli Před 2 měsíci

      So what happened then....how did bharat miss the bus?

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bhai tumlog railway lines par to potty karte firte ho, toilets hai nahi, literacy rate abhi bhi 3rd world country waala hai, communal violence ke incidents aate rehte hai.
      Kis baat ka proud hai? Abhi bhi developing economy ho, unlike ISRO jisne exceptionally kaam kiya hai

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci

      @@atrauli Victim cards, just how Islamists used to play

  • @reginajagelaviciene-iy9sm
    @reginajagelaviciene-iy9sm Před 2 měsíci +12

    People in the subcontinent who converted to save their lives trace their cultural lineage to Arabs?! Does that even begin to make sense?! This would be like the Christians in India talking about the Golden Age of the Tudors in England as their own golden period!!

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Před 2 měsíci +3

      Exactly. Within the first 5 minutes, Syed destroyed the whole argument.

    • @Chaloonoupada
      @Chaloonoupada Před 2 měsíci +2

      Exactly. If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hilarious 😂

  • @jojijoseph6485
    @jojijoseph6485 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Algebra was invented by Greeks, Babylonians, Indians, and Chinese. Al-Khwarizmi who was the father of algebra actually modified and translated the works of Greeks, Babylonians and Indians, and he was not an Arab, he was a Khwarizmian from Greater Persia.

  • @annnilsson501
    @annnilsson501 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks to Mujammil and Dr Hoodbhoy 🙏🙏🙏God bless you both 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @shanu7uday
    @shanu7uday Před 2 měsíci +4

    31:00 this student mentioned about ex president Dr. Pranav Mukerji of India. He was a lifelong congressman, but Modi of BJP after becoming PM, awarded him with “Bharat-Ratn” the highest civilian of India. Pakstan needs THIS thought process of giving oppositions their due. Tabhi progress hoga 😊

    • @farahsalahuddin
      @farahsalahuddin Před 2 měsíci

      Well said. As a Pakistani ( with parents that were driven out of India for being Muslim ) - I must say that Pakistan’s politicians and leadership are narcissistic fools and like every backwards management company they are busy kicking rather than uplifting each other. I’m not sure if the future of Muslims would have been brighter if they had allowed to stay back. The issue is partly too much religious interference and partly a tribal backwards part of the British empire. Two bad combinations. Even now they are busy jailing and defaming their own leaders. Never seen such a society anywhere. It has to implode before a new thought or culture can emerge. Muslims everywhere are backwards. Except for architecture and calligraphy not much else going for it. The idea of a single United ummah is ingrained in all Muslims. They have just not figured out how to harness the unity for better good of the world. Much of Muslim world has been incessantly bombed for last 70 years as well by western powers. Atleast 7 countries bombed and uprooted. A mess.

  • @ratnakamal1
    @ratnakamal1 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Professor saab, you mention KSA and UAE. Both these States suffer from inner contradictions. While MBS and MBZ are pulling their counties towards modernity, both these gentlemen preside over ruling establishments that are anything but modern.

  • @whomraja1704
    @whomraja1704 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Modi is trying hard to reform the Islamic radical mindset.

  • @ysmalik8690
    @ysmalik8690 Před 2 měsíci +7

    It is impossible for “Islam” as a whole to have a reformation, because this would entail all the various sects and subsects to agree on what that reformation should be, if any, which they will never do. There is no single central source of authority in Islam who could effect such a change.

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes religion is impossible to reform ,look at Hinduism especially in cow belt jahil Hindi states, still they discriminate Dalits as fourth class citizen of country....root is their book which bramhins can't reform.

    • @ExmuslimBengali
      @ExmuslimBengali Před 2 měsíci +1

      only reform of quran then Islam reform - main problem is in quran who allowed sax slavery and teach hate for kafirs thats it - islam reform not possible - leave Islam in only way like me .

    • @randomteenboy
      @randomteenboy Před 2 měsíci

      lies...lies...lies...
      >Iqbal did same critique as ghazzali, ibn al haythm, kant and david hume said but this doesnot mean that they were against it but they criticize metaphysics that it is unable to prove something objectively "reason is an ought to be the slave of passion" just like what science did...the greeks also failed because they focused more on metaphysics rather than science...
      >ghazzali wrote in his book what that its communal obligation and Farz e kafayah to learn natural philosophy/ science or any subject that can help community to grow... he further said its biggest crime against religion to oppse them in his last last books after becomming sufi....
      >the deviation from mutazilah school and critique of greeks led to formation of scientific method by ashariah such as ibn al haythm and al biruni which later inspired rene descartes and other european scientits.
      >according to quantum mechanics universe is undetermined and cuase / effect are not fundamental and we cant predict next moment with certainity and the reality is falling in certain trajectory due to observer effect....casuality is only a belief based on our past experience like what david hume says "Science is the faith that the future will behave like the past"
      >Israel is backed by usa thats why its doing this other wise it even fears from iran...
      >karl marx which influenced your intellectual ammar ali jan viewed interest as a form of profit derived from the exploitation of labor. and even soviet banned interests.... but you feel aversion towards moududi....
      >ottoman banned printing only for arabic texts at that time turkish was written in arabic letters. printing in latin was permited. they did it to protect jobs and buisness of calligraphers....just like now people like joe biden are demanding to ban AI as it wil take jobs which may not have substitute.....
      >just like religious concepts philosophical are also unbale to resolve.....
      prominent neuro scientist andrew huberman says alcohol is dangerous for mental health it may cause deaths...in westren countries DMT and psychedelics which did not caused any death or severe harms are banned....
      thats why we call them pseudo intellectuals....

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci

      Unless you produce more graduates from Pakistani IIT 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @KosherHasbara
      @KosherHasbara Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@nikhildeshmukh6221where r u from??

  • @umangdesai4136
    @umangdesai4136 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Another thing, what gets me is that Sir Hoodbhoy (Hoodbhai) is Physics Professor - I have never seen him talk about Physics! Nobody in Pakistan asks him about Physics!

  • @sagjoshi
    @sagjoshi Před 2 měsíci +8

    Thehzeeb in Islam? What a joke😂😂😂😂

    • @khalidsaeed5609
      @khalidsaeed5609 Před 2 měsíci

      Tehzeeb in Hinduism 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a joke 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 ooo

    • @khalidsaeed5609
      @khalidsaeed5609 Před 2 měsíci

      Har Kita billa or soor tumara khuda ho Sakta hy 😂😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @pranavkanwar7052
    @pranavkanwar7052 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Muzammil ko sun ne aaya tha, vapis jaa rha hun

    • @manishkumaryadav3315
      @manishkumaryadav3315 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bro wapas kyon jaa rahe ho😅

    • @pranavkanwar7052
      @pranavkanwar7052 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@manishkumaryadav3315 bol koi aur raha hai

    • @manishkumaryadav3315
      @manishkumaryadav3315 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pranavkanwar7052 Bhai hamein lagta hai ki wo topic hi yahi tha conversation ka haan biased zaroor laga aur objectivity kam lagi

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Před 2 měsíci

      Muzammil ko nahi, tum tanatani log Pakistani liberals ke muh se Pakistan ki burai sunane aate ho....apne. Cow belt jahil Hindi states ko sudhar lo......waha pe liberals ko gaali aur Pakistan ke liberals ko sunana he....apne yaha Yogi bhogi chahiye with their communal ideology of hindutva hateful

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bade besabri ho yaar

  • @sanketborole6498
    @sanketborole6498 Před 6 dny +1

    Bro even my muslims will thank jinnah for separating us from Pakistan after hearing pro pakistani debates
    Here in India parties are discussing who will start pratical bussiness studies in their manifestos and hear in Pakistan they discuss which chapters should we delete from history 😂😂😂😂 really great guys, you guys are on right path , now India dont have anything to concern about 😂😂

  • @shamsulhaqmiyan2302
    @shamsulhaqmiyan2302 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great conversation... I like the way how bravely this conversation has been taken without the fear of dogmatic Pakistani majority.. happy that Pakistan is producing thinkable youths to understand the truth for its future.

  • @sshekharroy8609
    @sshekharroy8609 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ashamed by the comments of my fellow Indians, most of whom have not even understood the context and reason for this discussion.
    But, contrary to most of the comments, I have really enjoyed the whole discussion/session. Pakistan needs more of such people to improve and develop in the future and such discussions should become a common norm among the normal Pakistani citizens, irrespective of their social or economical class/status they belong to in the country.
    And I know that it will take time and a lot of effort but things will change for better soon.
    Lots of love to the panel and the people present there asking such wonderful questions.❤
    Hope to see more of such people to come out of Pakistan in the near future as it is the need of this hour.

  • @atul6585
    @atul6585 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Is he a genius physicist who has given thought provoking talks on string theory or he is just the best that Pakistan can do?

  • @na789
    @na789 Před 14 dny

    Marvellous programme, Thank you so much.

  • @dileepjha6894
    @dileepjha6894 Před 2 měsíci +1

    प्रवेज़ जी आप जैसे लोग बहुत ही कम होते हैं मुज्जमिल भाई जैसा दरसानिक लाजवाब पाकिस्तान तो बदनसीब है जो आप जैसो का कदर नहीं करते

  • @ExmuslimBengali
    @ExmuslimBengali Před 2 měsíci +9

    only reform of quran then Islam reform - main problem is in quran who allowed sax slavery and teach hate for kafirs thats it - islam reform not possible - leave Islam in only way like me .

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci

      😂😂😂😂😂what is there to reform buddy????

    • @ExmuslimBengali
      @ExmuslimBengali Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-kf6dr3xd6p hate for kafir - quran says non muslim are wrost creature just becasue they not follow islam , sax slavery ban , muhammad sunnat - that make people lust full . lots refrom needed .

    • @maryammashkoor3305
      @maryammashkoor3305 Před měsícem

      czcams.com/video/7TiokD4pfNk/video.htmlsi=SCJ-t5b4DlB4UGcW

  • @davidsharma9673
    @davidsharma9673 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Sir please tell Dr pervez to seek urgently medical check up he is getting blockages thank you

  • @abdurraufabbasi8760
    @abdurraufabbasi8760 Před 2 měsíci

    Regardless of whether Indians appreciate it or not, the Muslim Golden Age will always be recognized as a significant era, and their contributions to science and technology will continue to be celebrated globally. Their invaluable service to humanity is an undeniable fact.

  • @bharatmaa7826
    @bharatmaa7826 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Thanks jinnah for making jahilistan.

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci

      And taking Punjabi Sunni Muslim with him 😂😂🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽Jinnah 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @bodo451
    @bodo451 Před 2 měsíci +5

    57:22 Hilarious part of the session 😂.In case my Bhartiya friends missed it. Do watch. From an Indian❤

  • @SapiensHaiHum
    @SapiensHaiHum Před měsícem

    Muzammil sir you are a 💎 for pakistani people. They must respect and take benefit of your value and light 🤝🙏🇮🇳

  • @vijayraghavann.s1823
    @vijayraghavann.s1823 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Algebra was the findings of Indian sage Bhaskaracharya not that of Egyptians.It is time world recognises the original finders of any concept not the plagerised version

    • @jetbllackwings
      @jetbllackwings Před 2 měsíci

      it takes one google search to find out Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi is the founder of Algebra but you’re once again proving education is illegal in india and you only use the internet to watch lusty tseries video.

  • @sagjoshi
    @sagjoshi Před 2 měsíci +4

    First of all if there was no basic education then how a Muslim can become a scientific thinkers in ur so called golden age?

  • @champalalpandya3297
    @champalalpandya3297 Před 2 měsíci +1

    👏👏👏💐💐ऐसे प्रोग्राम हमैशा होते रहने चाहिये !!👏👏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳💐💐

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před 2 měsíci

    Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all in it 1:04:05

  • @captsudarshan
    @captsudarshan Před 2 měsíci +3

    Enjoyed this session and learnt more about your country Pakistan.
    You both are my favourite Pakistanis and I was delighted to see both of you on the same stage.
    I would like to tell Dr. Hoodboy that his thoughts about India going Pakistan way due to religious intolerance etc are not correct. It is true that in the last couple of decades religion here is becoming more prominent. But it cannot go into our blood. It will always remain on the surface. They can win the elections by using religion but for us religion and science is like oil and water. Not like Pakistan where you have made it like milk and water.
    You might have seen the pictures of ISRO scientists, majority of them were female. While working in space centre they come with Tilak on their foreheads and before any important operations do Pooja. And this worship is done for all the faiths including Muslim.
    Sir, I can tell you with very high confidence that India can never go Pakistan way, never.
    I hope some day I would be able to drive into Lahore or Islamabad or you be my guest in Bombay ( I still call it Bombay) and we could talk to each other face-to-face.
    Love from India!

  • @jamshedfbc
    @jamshedfbc Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sharing stage with Dr Hoodbhoy ❤❤❤

  • @cinefile0075
    @cinefile0075 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Two my favourite persons on the stage. Legends... 🇮🇳

  • @boostergold4101
    @boostergold4101 Před 2 měsíci +2

    talking about golden age of islam rather than pakistan/west india or india that itself shows how deep is identity crysis is

    • @yourend3177
      @yourend3177 Před měsícem

      West India?
      Shows how deep sh*t History lessons are in India.
      There was no country called India before British rule.
      The subcontinent was divided into many kingdoms, often fighting with each other.
      You will find nothing in common between a Kasmiri/KPK with Tamilian or Bengali. They dont even speak mutually intelligable languages.
      All the dreams of Hindus of uniting India under one language one culture one religion will fall flat and if pushed, will lead to breakdown.
      LOL!!! fakers!!!

  • @einsteinwallah2
    @einsteinwallah2 Před 2 měsíci +4

    hindus were already scientists when muslims came ... aryabhat bhaskar and many other were already dabbling in astronomy ... surysiddhant was already existing

  • @reginajagelaviciene-iy9sm
    @reginajagelaviciene-iy9sm Před 2 měsíci +17

    People in the Sanatan tradition "convert" or change their mode of worship all the time. In the same family, one member might be an Arya Samaji, another a Vaishnav, still another a Shaivite. It is no big deal even if someone becomes an atheist. But none of these "converts" pretend that their cultural ancestry is now different. Muslims are unique in this respect. After conversion, they pretend that they are somehow descended from or have a connection with Arab learning of the 7th Century.

  • @harbansrai
    @harbansrai Před dnem

    We are proud to be INDIAN.

  • @Smartview0077
    @Smartview0077 Před 2 měsíci

    Great discussion 👍

  • @atulkumar-pr4yo
    @atulkumar-pr4yo Před 2 měsíci +5

    Sir you have misconceptions about HINDUTWA. Hindutwa is a philosophy of Living. Hindus culture is broad minded and liberal. India has never attacked any country, there is no place for expansion design . There are no instances of forcible conversion or destruction of relegious places of other relegion. Rather we have allowed others to settle down in the sub continent. On the contrary Islamic philosophy is contrary to Hindu Philosophy.

  • @poma9878
    @poma9878 Před 2 měsíci +9

    It's disappointing to hear Pervez Hoodbhoy. His level is also low w. Muzammil is more educated and has better perspective

  • @ejazahmad7026
    @ejazahmad7026 Před 2 měsíci

    Mr. Muzammal, please let us know what the services of pervaiz Hood in science are, which are acknowledged in the last sentence?

  • @sanjaylalverma7840
    @sanjaylalverma7840 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Bhai pakistan banakar india ma chupkar rah gaya Indian Muslims ka liya caa kab layaga pakistan

  • @Junior_de_Faizy
    @Junior_de_Faizy Před 2 měsíci

    Dialogues are necessary to educate the youth and aware. Well-done

  • @SrdarAhmad-sq2bd
    @SrdarAhmad-sq2bd Před měsícem

    So nice of you sir
    Love you❤

  • @qazwsx25321
    @qazwsx25321 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Oh. Yes Greece but why not indian subcontinent Hindu is not in your regular discussion

    • @user-un2ve5eg7o
      @user-un2ve5eg7o Před 2 měsíci

      What? Ancient Greece had many great-great philosophers! Unlike India who had only chanakya

    • @harshnaik6989
      @harshnaik6989 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@user-un2ve5eg7o The six Darshanas, also known as the six schools of Indian philosophy, are:
      1) Samkhya: Founded by Kapila Muni, Samkhya is a rationalist school of philosophy that denies the existence of God and believes in the dual existence of Purusha (consciousness) and Prakriti (matter)
      2)Yoga: Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes meditation and moral virtues as means to liberation12.
      3) Nyaya: Founded by Gautama Rishi, Nyaya is the school of logic and epistemology. It believes in a systematic investigation of the nature of things through logic
      4) Vaisheshika: Founded by Kanada Rishi, Vaisheshika is a naturalist school of atomism and believes in a detailed enumeration of the universe’s physical realities
      5) Mimamsa: Jaimini’s Mimamsa Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes the ritualistic aspects of the Vedas and the power of the mantras
      6 ) Vedanta: Based on the Brahma Sutras of Badarayana or Vyasa, Vedanta is the school of Upanishadic philosophy. It explores the concepts of Brahman (ultimate reality) and Atman (individual soul)
      These six schools of thought offer unique perspectives and paths towards the ultimate reality, each with its own philosophical underpinnings
      As for the great philosophies of ancient India, they include both orthodox (astika) systems, namely, the Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva-Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), and Vedanta schools of philosophy, and unorthodox (nastika) systems, such as Buddhism and Jainism3. These philosophies have been concerned with various philosophical problems, significant among which are the nature of the world (cosmology), the nature of reality (metaphysics), logic, the nature of knowledge (epistemology), ethics, and the philosophy of religion
      --->Ancient India was home to several schools of thought that did not believe in the existence of God. Here are some of them:
      1) Charvaka (Lokayata): This school of Indian materialism is considered one of the atheistic schools in the Hindu tradition. It rejected the authority of the Vedas and the notion of an afterlife, advocating for a hedonistic life
      2) Samkhya: While it is an orthodox (Astika) school of Hindu philosophy, Samkhya denies the existence of God or any other exterior influence. However, unlike other atheist schools of thought, it did not deny the existence of all things transcendent
      3) Purva Mimamsa: This school, while accepting the authority of the Vedas, typically rejects a personal god, creator god, or a god with attributes
      4 ) Ajñana: This was a skeptical school of ancient Indian philosophy. The Ajñana were the skeptics of their time and questioned the reliability of all sources of knowledge
      5) Buddhism and Jainism: While these are not typically classified as atheistic schools, they do not advocate for the worship of gods and instead focus on personal spiritual development
      6) Nagarjuna, who lived around the 2nd century CE, is widely considered one of the most important Buddhist philosophers. He is traditionally regarded as the founder of the Madhyamaka (“Middle Way”) school, an important tradition of Mahayana Buddhist philosophy
      Here are some key teachings of Nagarjuna:
      Doctrine of Emptiness (Shunyata): Nagarjuna is best known for his doctrine of emptiness (shunyata), which he developed in his most famous work, the Mulamadhyamakakarika (“Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way”). This doctrine asserts that all phenomena are empty of “self-nature” or “essence”, meaning they have no independent reality apart from the causes and conditions from which they arise
      Two Truths Doctrine: Nagarjuna proposed the Two Truths Doctrine, which differentiates between conventional truth (the reality we experience in everyday life) and ultimate truth (the ultimate reality as understood by enlightened minds).
      Dependent Origination: Nagarjuna emphasized the concept of dependent origination, which states that all phenomena arise in dependence upon other phenomena
      Madhyamaka Philosophy: Nagarjuna’s Madhyamaka philosophy rejects all philosophical views and propositions, arguing that accepting any of them as ultimately true leads to suffering
      Mahayana Buddhism: Nagarjuna was a proponent of the Mahayana school, which emphasizes the idea of the bodhisattva, or one who seeks to become a Buddha. He defended the Mahayana sutras as the authentic word of the Buddha.
      Nagarjuna’s teachings have had a profound influence on the development of Buddhist thought, not only in India but also in East Asia and Tibet

    • @harshnaik6989
      @harshnaik6989 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-un2ve5eg7o ​ The six Darshanas, also known as the six schools of Indian philosophy, are:
      1) Samkhya: Founded by Kapila Muni, Samkhya is a rationalist school of philosophy that denies the existence of God and believes in the dual existence of Purusha (consciousness) and Prakriti (matter)
      2)Yoga: Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes meditation and moral virtues as means to liberation12.
      3) Nyaya: Founded by Gautama Rishi, Nyaya is the school of logic and epistemology. It believes in a systematic investigation of the nature of things through logic
      4) Vaisheshika: Founded by Kanada Rishi, Vaisheshika is a naturalist school of atomism and believes in a detailed enumeration of the universe’s physical realities
      5) Mimamsa: Jaimini’s Mimamsa Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes the ritualistic aspects of the Vedas and the power of the mantras
      6 ) Vedanta: Based on the Brahma Sutras of Badarayana or Vyasa, Vedanta is the school of Upanishadic philosophy. It explores the concepts of Brahman (ultimate reality) and Atman (individual soul)
      These six schools of thought offer unique perspectives and paths towards the ultimate reality, each with its own philosophical underpinnings
      As for the great philosophies of ancient India, they include both orthodox (astika) systems, namely, the Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva-Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), and Vedanta schools of philosophy, and unorthodox (nastika) systems, such as Buddhism and Jainism3. These philosophies have been concerned with various philosophical problems, significant among which are the nature of the world (cosmology), the nature of reality (metaphysics), logic, the nature of knowledge (epistemology), ethics, and the philosophy of religion
      --->Ancient India was home to several schools of thought that did not believe in the existence of God. Here are some of them:
      1) Charvaka (Lokayata): This school of Indian materialism is considered one of the atheistic schools in the Hindu tradition. It rejected the authority of the Vedas and the notion of an afterlife, advocating for a hedonistic life
      2) Samkhya: While it is an orthodox (Astika) school of Hindu philosophy, Samkhya denies the existence of God or any other exterior influence. However, unlike other atheist schools of thought, it did not deny the existence of all things transcendent
      3) Purva Mimamsa: This school, while accepting the authority of the Vedas, typically rejects a personal god, creator god, or a god with attributes
      4 ) Ajñana: This was a skeptical school of ancient Indian philosophy. The Ajñana were the skeptics of their time and questioned the reliability of all sources of knowledge
      5) Buddhism and Jainism: While these are not typically classified as atheistic schools, they do not advocate for the worship of gods and instead focus on personal spiritual development
      6) Nagarjuna, who lived around the 2nd century CE, is widely considered one of the most important Buddhist philosophers. He is traditionally regarded as the founder of the Madhyamaka (“Middle Way”) school, an important tradition of Mahayana Buddhist philosophy
      Here are some key teachings of Nagarjuna:
      Doctrine of Emptiness (Shunyata): Nagarjuna is best known for his doctrine of emptiness (shunyata), which he developed in his most famous work, the Mulamadhyamakakarika (“Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way”). This doctrine asserts that all phenomena are empty of “self-nature” or “essence”, meaning they have no independent reality apart from the causes and conditions from which they arise
      Two Truths Doctrine: Nagarjuna proposed the Two Truths Doctrine, which differentiates between conventional truth (the reality we experience in everyday life) and ultimate truth (the ultimate reality as understood by enlightened minds).
      Dependent Origination: Nagarjuna emphasized the concept of dependent origination, which states that all phenomena arise in dependence upon other phenomena
      Madhyamaka Philosophy: Nagarjuna’s Madhyamaka philosophy rejects all philosophical views and propositions, arguing that accepting any of them as ultimately true leads to suffering
      Mahayana Buddhism: Nagarjuna was a proponent of the Mahayana school, which emphasizes the idea of the bodhisattva, or one who seeks to become a Buddha. He defended the Mahayana sutras as the authentic word of the Buddha.
      Nagarjuna’s teachings have had a profound influence on the development of Buddhist thought, not only in India but also in East Asia and Tibet

    • @harshnaik6989
      @harshnaik6989 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-un2ve5eg7o The six Darshanas, also known as the six schools of Indian philosophy, are:
      1) Samkhya: Founded by Kapila Muni, Samkhya is a rationalist school of philosophy that denies the existence of God and believes in the dual existence of Purusha (consciousness) and Prakriti (matter)
      2)Yoga: Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes meditation and moral virtues as means to liberation12.
      3) Nyaya: Founded by Gautama Rishi, Nyaya is the school of logic and epistemology. It believes in a systematic investigation of the nature of things through logic
      4) Vaisheshika: Founded by Kanada Rishi, Vaisheshika is a naturalist school of atomism and believes in a detailed enumeration of the universe’s physical realities
      5) Mimamsa: Jaimini’s Mimamsa Sutras form the basis of this school. It emphasizes the ritualistic aspects of the Vedas and the power of the mantras
      6 ) Vedanta: Based on the Brahma Sutras of Badarayana or Vyasa, Vedanta is the school of Upanishadic philosophy. It explores the concepts of Brahman (ultimate reality) and Atman (individual soul)
      These six schools of thought offer unique perspectives and paths towards the ultimate reality, each with its own philosophical underpinnings
      As for the great philosophies of ancient India, they include both orthodox (astika) systems, namely, the Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva-Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), and Vedanta schools of philosophy, and unorthodox (nastika) systems, such as Buddhism and Jainism3. These philosophies have been concerned with various philosophical problems, significant among which are the nature of the world (cosmology), the nature of reality (metaphysics), logic, the nature of knowledge (epistemology), ethics, and the philosophy of religion
      --->Ancient India was home to several schools of thought that did not believe in the existence of God. Here are some of them:
      1) Charvaka (Lokayata): This school of Indian materialism is considered one of the atheistic schools in the Hindu tradition. It rejected the authority of the Vedas and the notion of an afterlife, advocating for a hedonistic life
      2) Samkhya: While it is an orthodox (Astika) school of Hindu philosophy, Samkhya denies the existence of God or any other exterior influence. However, unlike other atheist schools of thought, it did not deny the existence of all things transcendent
      3) Purva Mimamsa: This school, while accepting the authority of the Vedas, typically rejects a personal god, creator god, or a god with attributes
      4 ) Ajñana: This was a skeptical school of ancient Indian philosophy. The Ajñana were the skeptics of their time and questioned the reliability of all sources of knowledge
      5) Buddhism and Jainism: While these are not typically classified as atheistic schools, they do not advocate for the worship of gods and instead focus on personal spiritual development
      6) Nagarjuna, who lived around the 2nd century CE, is widely considered one of the most important Buddhist philosophers. He is traditionally regarded as the founder of the Madhyamaka (“Middle Way”) school, an important tradition of Mahayana Buddhist philosophy
      Here are some key teachings of Nagarjuna:
      Doctrine of Emptiness (Shunyata): Nagarjuna is best known for his doctrine of emptiness (shunyata), which he developed in his most famous work, the Mulamadhyamakakarika (“Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way”). This doctrine asserts that all phenomena are empty of “self-nature” or “essence”, meaning they have no independent reality apart from the causes and conditions from which they arise
      Two Truths Doctrine: Nagarjuna proposed the Two Truths Doctrine, which differentiates between conventional truth (the reality we experience in everyday life) and ultimate truth (the ultimate reality as understood by enlightened minds).
      Dependent Origination: Nagarjuna emphasized the concept of dependent origination, which states that all phenomena arise in dependence upon other phenomena
      Madhyamaka Philosophy: Nagarjuna’s Madhyamaka philosophy rejects all philosophical views and propositions, arguing that accepting any of them as ultimately true leads to suffering
      Mahayana Buddhism: Nagarjuna was a proponent of the Mahayana school, which emphasizes the idea of the bodhisattva, or one who seeks to become a Buddha. He defended the Mahayana sutras as the authentic word of the Buddha.
      Nagarjuna’s teachings have had a profound influence on the development of Buddhist thought, not only in India but also in East Asia and Tibet

    • @mayankindian3750
      @mayankindian3750 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@user-un2ve5eg7o Accha iska matlb koi knowledge nahi hai fir to

  • @madhavnadkarni9405
    @madhavnadkarni9405 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Both appear to be victims of identity crisis. Though Mr. Hoodbhoy is graduate of MIT his talking and handling of logic gives impression that he is not able to unlearn what he learned at madarsa.

  • @khalidmufti4463
    @khalidmufti4463 Před 2 měsíci

    Very nice 🎉

  • @dr.tushar5222
    @dr.tushar5222 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This session is the testimony that Pakistan has its own kind of rationalists......you guys live long ... Pakistan has everything to sustain itself against the tsunami of true rationalism globally...and lives in its own Islamic cocoon...

  • @jaybhavani8416
    @jaybhavani8416 Před 2 měsíci +1


    Islam and Science 😮
    Spiritual science
    Spiritual Philosophy
    Parapsychology
    Metaphysics
    Cosmology
    Theology
    Spiritual science and philosophy
    Towards the Truth .
    😅
    We expect truthful scientific research oriented videos on
    above subject with
    CZcamsrs-
    Ex Muslim Sahil
    Sameer
    Suchwala
    Sangam Talks
    Citti Media
    Neeraj Atri
    😊

  • @imzrox
    @imzrox Před 2 měsíci

    Great discussion!

  • @mairajamil001
    @mairajamil001 Před měsícem

    0:00 Introduction
    1:03 Golden Age: Myth or Reality?
    10:47 Pan-Islamism?
    21:16 Why is Ghazali still relevant?
    27:50 How to reconcile the differences between faith and science?
    30:22 ???
    32:28 How to teach science in Pakistan?
    36:40 How should our education system be designed?
    39:51 How to bring Education to the forefront?
    43:38 Are we not Adaptable?
    47:41 Is there an Islamic economic system?
    51:00 How to be accountable ?
    53:55 How to revive Golden age? Scientific Imperialism?
    57:17 is there God at the bottom of the glass????!
    57:54 Does politics and economics lead philosophy in a culture?
    1:02:00 Rise of AI - Effects in Pakistan

  • @parizadirani3627
    @parizadirani3627 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Please try a podcast with our scientist dr. Anand Ranganathan and SC lawyer J Sai Deepak ..... hoodbhoy ki shalwar utar jayegi .... 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳

  • @saggarwal01
    @saggarwal01 Před 2 měsíci

    Syed Muzammil being a man of academic precision corrected the lady, not on the rhetoric but technicality of Kant’s. This is what is required to further discourse.

  • @drcynidejaffri3573
    @drcynidejaffri3573 Před 2 měsíci

    My two favorite people together, I can listen to them for hours

  • @rajeshkhetarpal1271
    @rajeshkhetarpal1271 Před 2 měsíci

    What a lovely first question by someone from the audience!

  • @tarvsingh6241
    @tarvsingh6241 Před měsícem

    Dudes-the golden age is today where true nature is before the world.

  • @AmirAmjad-ps5iv
    @AmirAmjad-ps5iv Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love you doctor Saab! Like your way of talking...

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci

      Light of knowledge was there before the book until it was flicked off by mullahs in Islam after 1200 ad 😢😢😢😢

  • @loveshgulabani3294
    @loveshgulabani3294 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I can never even imagine studying about a scientist and ever thinking of the faith he comes from ?!! GOD! Since when has it been Christian and Muslim and Hindu invention??

  • @zaheerahmed7894
    @zaheerahmed7894 Před 2 měsíci

    Sir on 23 minute py is recording ke jo statements hy, i have questions, sir i respect your opinion but science predictions tuu kartii hy, but phir predictions jb glt hoty hy ya loss or flaws aaty hy, sir what do you have thoughts about? Either science is complete or the completion is what imam ghazali said, sir i have seen many time the failure of science... so do you think k, Allah hy jo mudakhlat karta hy kisi cheez ke hony ya na hony me..

    • @Smartview0077
      @Smartview0077 Před 2 měsíci

      There's one solution...that take religious studies..become molvi or molna ..all problems or questions slove by din ...bz ...u don't have brain ...😅😅 u can't achieve anything....APJ abdul kalam bane ke liye..brain chahiye.

  • @jadabeswarbhattacharjee3537
    @jadabeswarbhattacharjee3537 Před 2 měsíci

    None of the intellectual giants of Islamic Golden Age was true believer.
    In their time all were labeled as Kafir or Mushrik.

  • @SapiensHaiHum
    @SapiensHaiHum Před 2 měsíci +2

    Its a good thing that Pakistan is thinking on this

    • @user-kf6dr3xd6p
      @user-kf6dr3xd6p Před 2 měsíci

      Pakistanis 🤔🤔🤔and thinking 🤔 🤔🤔🤔 nope 😂😂😂😂