Thank you for covering this replica. I was wondering why there was so little coverage of what looked like a real winner from the get go. Just ordered one myself when I’d stumbled upon this vid. It was a great help. Again, you have my thanks.
This thing is such a cool little gun! I was agonising between it and the MP5K, and I'm glad to hear you consider them equal --- I went with the MP5K in the end for how much more unique it'll be on the field!
@@terryfolev3412 Hi there, all i can say is that mine has been amazing and well worth every bit. there are companies out there that will engrave the correct trades on it for you no worries at an extra cost but what ever you do please stay away from SWIT AIRSOFT as i pre ordered the MCX rattler gbbr from them back in Feb. for a first batch i.e. march release and still have not got it yet i payed over 100 dollars more than any other company was advertising to get it. my invoice says due march 23rd at the latest but still nope, they wont even reply to my emails or anything so a potential loss of 669 dollars.
I love this replica! Firing it feels amazing. The bolt feels heavy for being so small. What I don’t like is my replica’s inner barrel is very short in comparison to the outer barrel. However I love everything else about it. Including the fact that I didn’t have to wait months for extra mags like everyone to for the official vfc aeg version. I ordered mine replica from Airsoft Global and it came with full trade marks including the mpx logo that doesn’t even come on the vfc aeg. If anyone gets this airsoft replica and decides to change the pistol grip. Sig Saucer grip are compatible but there is a hole in the grip that needs to be filled so the spring the holds tension on the selector switches works properly. Middle Age Gamer a greater video. I definitely agree with your sub section of vfc theory mainly because of the way a lot of newer vfc replicas use there hop ups. Also I’ve already pre-ordered the rattler from Swit airsoft ETA is in May
Hi there friend thanks and I agree the inner barrel is a tad to short at 90mm but I got a maple 🍁 crazy jet and wow what a difference. I was going to get the rattler but given I really love the mpx I decided against it for now but its on the list.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I’m surprised you decided against Rattler. It was an easy decision for me since the only other choice was the super expensive mws mcx kit. Also the fact that it’s compatible with vfc m4 gbb mags. Which I have a lot of. Down side though is that APFG doesn’t seem to make a trademarked version like they did for the mpx
@@MiddleAgeGameruk yes YESSS embrace the airsoft addiction! Lol dude I lost count of how many airsoft replicas I have. I stopped counting at 75! I’m hoping to start my own channel soon as well. Thanks for the inspiration and I look forward to your review when your mcx arrives
Awsome my friend the sd6 and a5 are identical baring the supresser so you will enjoy 😉. The new ngrs system is the ebb to go for the old system upto the new urgi requires too much work to make it reliable and fun.
Thanks for the in depth review I jjta purchased the proforce 170$ version aeg I whouldve love to get the 300 dollar Avalon gear box version but the mpx and mcx in gbb are worth the money just listen to them💪👍🔥
word is, VFC have lost the main Sig Air license. so APFG was spun up to sell the already produced MPX and MCX Rattler GBBRs under their name so that VFC is not liable for breaking any preexisting deals. you won't find APFG being sold in the US due to this. also probably why they're available without trademarks entirely
Hi there, vfc are just the manufacturer and continue to be, they just finished the p320 x carry. The problem is sig proforce, they are so strict with there design that when vfc asked to chainge 1 part from aluminium to steel for reliability reasons si said no over a 50 cent part, thats why they set up apfg, now they can do what they like as long as the weapon has been on the commercial market for 10 years or more for patient reasons.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk VFC is no longer the sole manufacturer for Sig Air Proforce. King Arms released an MPX AEG not long ago under the Sig Air Proforce brand as well. Word is that the XCarry P320 were already approved and in production before VFC lost exclusive rights. Which makes sense considering the time for development and manufacturing
@@MiddleAgeGameruk also, what you're referring to is likeness going into the public domain. Other companies still cannot use Sig branding without licensing. Public domain does not apply to registered trademarks in that timeframe. Someone could just make a gun with the same likeness, without branding, and be covered under public domain. Registered trades are protected
Hi there, from what I hear there are other manufacturers depending on region but either way I'm glad more are helping out, hopefully with good quality having had 2x m18s arrive broken and 1x m17. As for apfg I was referring to just likeliness over the patient laws, all of apfgs are unmarked for that reason.
Never say never my friend, there next after the mpx is the mcx rattler out this month and after that there doing the p320x the 10mm full size with supposedly a striker system similar to ghk's glock but without molding the firecontrols in the frame. I would love to see a kriss vector gbbr as kwa did one but faced serious legal problems from krytac and kriss.
Hi there, as I live in the uk, I use green gas. You can use propane, but I would only suggest using it in cold weather as propane is a little more powerful.
The mpx-k was from www.wgcshop.com it took 2 weeks total to arrive, you can try where I got the new mcx rattler sbr gbbr from www.proactstore.com ,they too are quick at around 2 weeks. The main hold up is customs as they held mt rattler for 2 extra weeks. Hope that helps.
No problem, there will be customs charges if your here in the UK, it was £97 for the mpx-k and £117.82 for the rattler, just something to remember to plan for.
Hello! Sorry for the awkwardness with using the translator. Is there any problem with the mpx yet? I heard that the receiver cracks when using the Accu Wedge on the mcx. I'm enjoying the video
Hi there, there has been no cracking of my receiver, and the replica comes with a white accuracy wedge installed. The only issue I had was group size, and that's why I changed the inner barrel, but other than that, it's amazing.
Certainly I would say the mpx due to many reasons, the heavier recoil springs, the new v3 larger steel firing pin, and yes the 90mm inner barrel. There both amazing smg's.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I got very unlucky, ran into 3 problems: - Mag release gets stuck every use. - The trigger doesn’t reset. - The pin above the fire selector came off. I got it all fixed but it is certainly not a good first impression and im still constantly worried that something will go wrong again.
Hi there, yes, you do need a UKARA when importing from wgcshop.com. you put it in the comments on your order. Just remember customs fees are approximately 20% of the value of the item plus 20-30 quid for the paperwork.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk AH that's annoying.... I live in Ireland and there is literally no where that will deliver this gun to Ireland that is reputable... It is so frustrating cause i am wanting to get one so bad
I totally understand. The government here totally overreact over what they themselves class as TOYS, and go to extreme lengths to make our sport/hobbie difficult to get into.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk Yea the UKARA thing is quite stupid and luckily it isn't a law in Ireland to have Airsoft guns. I have a website here that has one and they deliver to Ireland but its the risk of it getting seized I'm worried about. I don't know if to just do it and hope to god its okay
@@MiddleAgeGameruk damn looks like everyone’s nozzle is breaking looks like no one’s has it… I’m kinda sad I’m in talks with SWIT airsoft rn so hopefully they can ship it out soon I need to make content with this gun an it’s broken
Hi there, the bolt is a milled aluminium bolt carrier with steel recoil rods and springs and pins, the nozzle is reinforced nilon polymer with a metal core in the landing arm all this from the factory as standard, the ware is just the coating where it rubs inside the reciver like an outer barrel on a pistol. There is ot actual deep scratches after now 4k rounds as of this Saturday where it was awsome at Halo Mill CQB site. Hope that helps!
Hi there I'm sorry to say your only option is to import one at the moment but at approx £300 its a great value and worth it. I got mine from www.wgcshop.com .
Hi there any length mapleleaf crazy jet gbb inner barrel will fit as its a standard spec, I have a 106mm crazy jet in mine now for CQB at Halo Mill. For outdoor you will need one 8" or longer as that way you can tune the npass in the nozzle to the right bb weight you use and the average distance you are aiming for. If your in the uk the www.firesupport.co.uk if your in the USA then Evik.com . Hope that helps
@@MiddleAgeGameruk thanks a ton! Tuning this thing will be pretty fun. So far I’ve had to push pretty aggressively to outgun people on the field. But man, it is one of the best gbb guns I’ve used… and it’s even stock.
Thank you for covering this replica. I was wondering why there was so little coverage of what looked like a real winner from the get go. Just ordered one myself when I’d stumbled upon this vid. It was a great help. Again, you have my thanks.
Just wanted to say I love your content man hope you keep uploading I’m sure your channel will grow alot by the quality of your reviews!
This thing is such a cool little gun! I was agonising between it and the MP5K, and I'm glad to hear you consider them equal --- I went with the MP5K in the end for how much more unique it'll be on the field!
Enjoy the mp5k it is awsome and yes both are rare on the field 😀
it is definitely not more unique than the mpx stop coping
@@undersc0r was thinking this same thing lol ive never seen another mpx on the field, i see 4 or 5 mp5ks and various other versions.
Excellent in depth reviews good sir! Big fan - you should have way more exposure, good luck!
Knew you’d love this thing, despite being unlicensed. Shoots super fast!
I didn’t know you were American?
The legend himself!
Its bloody awsome 😍 and no I'm not American haha just lived there long enough to pick up the slight accent haha
@@MiddleAgeGameruk “Aluminum” gave you away. 😂 I don’t think British people don’t say it like that
I’m so on the edge of this, the only thing holding me back is it being unlicensed. Have you guys heard any rumours about a licensed version?
@@terryfolev3412 Hi there, all i can say is that mine has been amazing and well worth every bit. there are companies out there that will engrave the correct trades on it for you no worries at an extra cost but what ever you do please stay away from SWIT AIRSOFT as i pre ordered the MCX rattler gbbr from them back in Feb. for a first batch i.e. march release and still have not got it yet i payed over 100 dollars more than any other company was advertising to get it. my invoice says due march 23rd at the latest but still nope, they wont even reply to my emails or anything so a potential loss of 669 dollars.
I love this replica! Firing it feels amazing. The bolt feels heavy for being so small. What I don’t like is my replica’s inner barrel is very short in comparison to the outer barrel. However I love everything else about it. Including the fact that I didn’t have to wait months for extra mags like everyone to for the official vfc aeg version. I ordered mine replica from Airsoft Global and it came with full trade marks including the mpx logo that doesn’t even come on the vfc aeg. If anyone gets this airsoft replica and decides to change the pistol grip. Sig Saucer grip are compatible but there is a hole in the grip that needs to be filled so the spring the holds tension on the selector switches works properly. Middle Age Gamer a greater video. I definitely agree with your sub section of vfc theory mainly because of the way a lot of newer vfc replicas use there hop ups. Also I’ve already pre-ordered the rattler from Swit airsoft ETA is in May
Hi there friend thanks and I agree the inner barrel is a tad to short at 90mm but I got a maple 🍁 crazy jet and wow what a difference. I was going to get the rattler but given I really love the mpx I decided against it for now but its on the list.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I’m surprised you decided against Rattler. It was an easy decision for me since the only other choice was the super expensive mws mcx kit. Also the fact that it’s compatible with vfc m4 gbb mags. Which I have a lot of. Down side though is that APFG doesn’t seem to make a trademarked version like they did for the mpx
My friend i do want and well get one but like everyone I have to plan for content this year 😌 😅 🙃, if I could I would get everything haha 😄 😅
Just a quick one I caved and confirmed my pre order from swit airsoft.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk yes YESSS embrace the airsoft addiction! Lol dude I lost count of how many airsoft replicas I have. I stopped counting at 75! I’m hoping to start my own channel soon as well. Thanks for the inspiration and I look forward to your review when your mcx arrives
Looking foward to this 👌🏼👌🏼
Awesome as always, I love my GBBR's but have taken the plunge into the EBB as I have a TM mp5sd6 coming which im super excited about!
Awsome my friend the sd6 and a5 are identical baring the supresser so you will enjoy 😉. The new ngrs system is the ebb to go for the old system upto the new urgi requires too much work to make it reliable and fun.
Just got mine mcx rattlers, nice rifle, but be aware its not back compatable to the v2 mag
My sre order is with swit so still not arrived, thanks for the heads up on the mags.
Thanks for the in depth review I jjta purchased the proforce 170$ version aeg I whouldve love to get the 300 dollar Avalon gear box version but the mpx and mcx in gbb are worth the money just listen to them💪👍🔥
word is, VFC have lost the main Sig Air license. so APFG was spun up to sell the already produced MPX and MCX Rattler GBBRs under their name so that VFC is not liable for breaking any preexisting deals. you won't find APFG being sold in the US due to this. also probably why they're available without trademarks entirely
Hi there, vfc are just the manufacturer and continue to be, they just finished the p320 x carry. The problem is sig proforce, they are so strict with there design that when vfc asked to chainge 1 part from aluminium to steel for reliability reasons si said no over a 50 cent part, thats why they set up apfg, now they can do what they like as long as the weapon has been on the commercial market for 10 years or more for patient reasons.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk VFC is no longer the sole manufacturer for Sig Air Proforce. King Arms released an MPX AEG not long ago under the Sig Air Proforce brand as well. Word is that the XCarry P320 were already approved and in production before VFC lost exclusive rights. Which makes sense considering the time for development and manufacturing
@@MiddleAgeGameruk also, what you're referring to is likeness going into the public domain. Other companies still cannot use Sig branding without licensing. Public domain does not apply to registered trademarks in that timeframe. Someone could just make a gun with the same likeness, without branding, and be covered under public domain. Registered trades are protected
Hi there, from what I hear there are other manufacturers depending on region but either way I'm glad more are helping out, hopefully with good quality having had 2x m18s arrive broken and 1x m17. As for apfg I was referring to just likeliness over the patient laws, all of apfgs are unmarked for that reason.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk interesting. I've got 8 VFC P320s that have been great for me. Guess I should play the lottery
I hope they do it with the vector gbb!
Never say never my friend, there next after the mpx is the mcx rattler out this month and after that there doing the p320x the 10mm full size with supposedly a striker system similar to ghk's glock but without molding the firecontrols in the frame. I would love to see a kriss vector gbbr as kwa did one but faced serious legal problems from krytac and kriss.
well well well
@@BooStairs the day has come sir
HI, propane is used for its use, right?, but it can be used with Greengas?
Hi there, as I live in the uk, I use green gas. You can use propane, but I would only suggest using it in cold weather as propane is a little more powerful.
Great gbb, great explaination
I’m thinking of getting one myself, was wondering where did you get yours from and how long did it take to arrive?
The mpx-k was from www.wgcshop.com it took 2 weeks total to arrive, you can try where I got the new mcx rattler sbr gbbr from www.proactstore.com ,they too are quick at around 2 weeks. The main hold up is customs as they held mt rattler for 2 extra weeks. Hope that helps.
Thank you! Its a massive help 😀
No problem, there will be customs charges if your here in the UK, it was £97 for the mpx-k and £117.82 for the rattler, just something to remember to plan for.
Hello! Sorry for the awkwardness with using the translator. Is there any problem with the mpx yet? I heard that the receiver cracks when using the Accu Wedge on the mcx. I'm enjoying the video
Hi there, there has been no cracking of my receiver, and the replica comes with a white accuracy wedge installed. The only issue I had was group size, and that's why I changed the inner barrel, but other than that, it's amazing.
@@MiddleAgeGamerukThank you for your answer!
Random question, which gun is louder? The mp5k pdw or this mpx? I heard from others online the mpx is really loud due to the short overvolumed barrel
Certainly I would say the mpx due to many reasons, the heavier recoil springs, the new v3 larger steel firing pin, and yes the 90mm inner barrel. There both amazing smg's.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk thanks for the info! And for all the reviews you have done so far
How’s the MPX holding up? Any problems so far?
Hi there, the mpx is doing great. The only part I ever had to chainge was the inner barrel, but other than that, it is an amazing replica.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I got very unlucky, ran into 3 problems:
- Mag release gets stuck every use.
- The trigger doesn’t reset.
- The pin above the fire selector came off.
I got it all fixed but it is certainly not a good first impression and im still constantly worried that something will go wrong again.
Dang where did you get this, this is amazing
I got mine from www.wgcshop.com, but if you're in the uk, you can try contacting www.davescustomairsoft.co.uk
Hello. I was curious, do u know where to find the standard MPX length hand guard ? Or if the Aeg external parts are compatible?
I order my parts from www.wgcshop.com and yes the vfc aeg hanguard and barrel will work as there both 1-1 in scale.
Did you need a UKARA to get it in from WGC into England?
Hi there, yes, you do need a UKARA when importing from wgcshop.com. you put it in the comments on your order. Just remember customs fees are approximately 20% of the value of the item plus 20-30 quid for the paperwork.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk AH that's annoying.... I live in Ireland and there is literally no where that will deliver this gun to Ireland that is reputable... It is so frustrating cause i am wanting to get one so bad
I totally understand. The government here totally overreact over what they themselves class as TOYS, and go to extreme lengths to make our sport/hobbie difficult to get into.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk Yea the UKARA thing is quite stupid and luckily it isn't a law in Ireland to have Airsoft guns. I have a website here that has one and they deliver to Ireland but its the risk of it getting seized I'm worried about. I don't know if to just do it and hope to god its okay
I love everything about it, except that fire-side bolt paddle; that thing sticks out way too far and looks like a snag-and-snap waiting to happen.
Sorry if you said it In the video but what are the threads
Hi there, it's 14mm ccw
Do you have a link to get this? I want to get it and the tti kit
You can find it at www.wgcshop.com just type apfg in at you can find it
My nozzle broke like right off the bat how do you find one?
Just expels all the gas an when I took it apart the nozzle is broke an screws fell out of it hasn’t even been fielded yet lmao 😂
Hi there, you can find the nossels at www.wgcshop.com, and if they are out, you can try www.proactstore.com I hope that helps
@@MiddleAgeGameruk damn looks like everyone’s nozzle is breaking looks like no one’s has it… I’m kinda sad I’m in talks with SWIT airsoft rn so hopefully they can ship it out soon I need to make content with this gun an it’s broken
The ware on the bolt gives me the impression it's made of aluminum. Is that the case?
Hi there, the bolt is a milled aluminium bolt carrier with steel recoil rods and springs and pins, the nozzle is reinforced nilon polymer with a metal core in the landing arm all this from the factory as standard, the ware is just the coating where it rubs inside the reciver like an outer barrel on a pistol. There is ot actual deep scratches after now 4k rounds as of this Saturday where it was awsome at Halo Mill CQB site. Hope that helps!
Sorry for the typos on the road and predictive text etc..
@@MiddleAgeGameruk Thanks for the breakdown, that helps a lot!
How are you able to get this in US?
You can try global imports they managed to get some mcx rattler through. A quick Google search and you should find them
Does it use an AEG style inner barrel?
It uses standard gbb spec.
Can I put a stubby stock on it?????
You can put anything you want on it as it has a pic rail on the back to attach any style of stock you prefer.
where can i get one in the uk
Hi there I'm sorry to say your only option is to import one at the moment but at approx £300 its a great value and worth it. I got mine from www.wgcshop.com .
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I’ll have to keep my eye open then Thanks for getting back to me
Could you link the inner barrel? I want to increase the range on mine since I play mostly outdoor.
Hi there any length mapleleaf crazy jet gbb inner barrel will fit as its a standard spec, I have a 106mm crazy jet in mine now for CQB at Halo Mill. For outdoor you will need one 8" or longer as that way you can tune the npass in the nozzle to the right bb weight you use and the average distance you are aiming for. If your in the uk the www.firesupport.co.uk if your in the USA then Evik.com . Hope that helps
Sorry www.evike.com
@@MiddleAgeGameruk thanks a ton! Tuning this thing will be pretty fun. So far I’ve had to push pretty aggressively to outgun people on the field. But man, it is one of the best gbb guns I’ve used… and it’s even stock.
No problem!
P.s. the MCX Rattler gbbr is on order so should be on the channel around april/may!!!!
@@MiddleAgeGameruk planning on ordering it aswell! If it’s anything like the MPX I’m sure it’s not going to disappoint!