2011 Club Car DS, Gas - Bad Governor, Hitting Rev Limiter
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2018
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Your explanation of how this system works is very helpful...Thank you
You're welcome!
Very well explained, thanks
Great job Kevin,definitely saw my mis adjusted govenor...its there for a reason,more governor, less engine life
These engines are not internally governed so they have an external governor. It is dependent on speed and load.
Great detailed video
Hi Kevin I have a yamaha turfmate when you rev at full throttle it revs up and down.and the same in neutral. Any ideas?
I have a 2000 club car XRT Turf 2. I have a broken throttle cable. How much is the part & how much for labor? Thanks
Kevin, we have a 2007 Club Car Presedent. When we go to take off it squeals. I have to be easy on the throttle to get it to catch. You think it could be a belt issue. We have replaced the drive clutch already. I didn't know if maybe the belt was stretched out on the replace or the other clutch is bad. Please help.
Hi Kevin, hope you're doing well, I have 2017 club car precedent gas with a subaru engine. While driving, it tends to want to cut off and sometimes back fires. Do you have a video on this type of engine to help me fix my golf cart? Thanks in advance
Moe
Great information. That governor protects the engine.
Rev limiter protects the engine not the governor. The governor is mom and dad it controls your speed and makes sure it’s baby doesn’t go to fast to get hurt. It’s 100% installed for golf courses to control speeding that’s it.
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Hi Kevin I appreciate your professionalism /attitude towards doing things the right way instead of what makes things easy or a hack fix! I work on golf carts at a golf course I have many that will only start w/ pedal half way depressed (fully depressed pedal you get nothing) and everyone jumps in his pedal to floor & complains it won't start/ run. How do I fix this issue? Also I've purchase the starter / gen belts (club car & aftermarket) they are all now slightly thinner than the older belts!? Have you noticed this where can I buy ones like the originals?
If its cold, the engines will need a little choke to get going. If its hard starting all the time, even when warmed up, I would start with disassembly and cleaning of the carb. Also check fuel flow from the pump. Make sure the fuel lines aren't stiff. This can cause vacuum leaks and weak or no flow. Club Car has multiple part numbers for their different years and belts. I would make sure the belts are for that year. Some of the belts are only for a 2 year range, some are for the newer 96+. I would stay away from Amazon for hard parts like that. Everythingcarts or buggiesunlimited are good sites to buy from. They both sell RHOX parts and I'm also a RHOX dealer but I don't sell online anymore.
I have a 2014 turf club car and it’s doing the same thing, could it be the rev limiter and not the govenor?
Always great videos and information. Do you have any videos on carts with the Harley Davidson engines.
Thanks again
I don't but I used to have a couple of the Harley Davidson-Columbia 3 wheelers.
I have a !986 Club Car gas Motor and when I barely press the pedal down it seems like it`s at half throttle already. It also jerks a lot on take off. If I adjust the throttle cable at the box like you did will this help? Or is there a different adjustment somewhere?
Yes that will work
Hi Kevin, my club car, went even move the governor when I push the foot throttle??? But I can manually rev it up by hand on the carburetor itself!!! But my cable's have stopped moving in the last day... any ideas?? What's wrong.
Thanks Dirk
It sounds like one of the cables has broken somewhere inside the sheath. If you pull the cable from one end and the other end does not move, the cable is broken and needs to be replaced. If the cable is hard to pull or does not move easily, its time to replace it.
Enjoying all your videos Kevin. Glad I found them. So, my '92 EZGo Marathon will not rev enough to engage the clutch. I noticed a couple of small hoses hanging below the carb. one is broken in half the other is hanging loose. Pics of new carb all show two small hoses attached to the carb. do you what these are for?
If its not revving, adjust the valves. The hoses are for the overflow.
Could your issue be caused by the throttle plate bearing my missing?
Do you have a video of you setting the governor in the back? Mines out and need to reset you you are the closest one to showing it that I found.
trust me cut the muffler off it sounds pretty good
I have a club car with FE350 engine. It runs good at high rpm and I can even move slowly in forward gear. In reverse it surges, bucks and will backfire. Doesn’t seem to do that in forward. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Great channel by the way.
Is that "service switch" unique to Club Car shifters or do all carts have some version of that?
To my knowledge, all gas Club Cars have a service switch like this. Most, if not all, newer golf carts have a Tow/Run/Maintenance switch or mechanism, whether gas or electric. Some gas carts do not have this feature as they have a "neutral" position on the shifter.
Kevin's Golf Carts Thanks for the quick reply. Very thorough, enjoy watching your videos.
Kevin I have a 2018 gas club car how to increase speed
we have a 2008 club car ds that came from an actual golf course. it is now used at a campground with some pretty significant terrain changes. when 4 adults are on board, it doesn't have much power to speak of. now i don't want to set any land speed records with this thing (i'm 42), BUT i do want to give it a bit more kick climbing hills. you showed adjusting that cable ferrule on the speed control box...if i were to adjust that a few turns out, would that be a safe option to increase power a bit?
i am going to do a full service on this cart prior to making any adjustments to make sure nothing is left on the table. i saw you said conventional 10w30...can i run synthetic? i am probably gonna run a high end oil filter, and k&n air filter to help protect and squeeze out everything i can. any recommendations are greatly appreciated...great vid, and a sub for you sir.
Still need help?
I got a kand n drop in at autozone 20 years ago it works great
I adjusted the governor on mine today. I can get up to 19 mph now in which I was getting 12 mph too slow. I do not put the pedal to the floor I just let it coast at 19
You can fix it,two words...throttle stop!
Thank you,thank you very much!
Throttle stop? Is this a brand of something you use on the throttle cable? Just curious.
Kevin, I am having very similar issues with the governor but I put mine up on jack stands today and it seems that my governor is actually moving as it should unlike yours from this video. That being said I keep bouncing off the Rev-limiter, I’m sitting here reading through a service and parts manual trying to troubleshoot what my problem is . My guess is it’s electrical ? Any help would be great thank you
Keith Ellett same problem ez go medalist, while trying to adjust the governor I believe the igniter went out and lost spark.
@@franksleder8986 I have a big block now, love it. should have done it sooner
Bummer on parts acquisition. OEM has its reasons for things being set the way they are, and when you start fooling around with things, especially in the performance area, things tend to come back and bite you. Thanks for the ride along.
Only if it's done incorrectly lol
So gas carts, Ezgo, Club cart or Yamaha which cart would you recommend buying?
Yamaha for gas, Club Car for electric and stay as far away from EZGo as you can for both.
Club cart
This is the best answered question i have found anywhere on the internet as for someone looking to buy a gas cart. Thank you.
I have a 95 ds. The starter motor went bad. I did a field test, it failed. I want to replace it with an after market part because I cant afford OEM. How do I find what type of starter to purchase? Some people say clockwise and some counter clockwise. I "think" it's a Kawasaki motor. I have the s.n. but that's it. Can you help me out here?
The 95 DS uses Counter-clockwise rotation and 96+ is clockwise. If its a clockwise engine, it will be printed in bold black letters on a yellow arrow above the primary clutch "CLOCKWISE". To determine the year, look at the serial number. The first 2 numbers after the letters are the last two numbers in the year. For example, AQ0869-59555 is a 2008 Club Car DS or Precedent. This isn't a real serial, just random numbers. You can order the bi-directional starter/generator from me MOT-2005. It can be wired for either clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts ok I will look in the morning. What is the price and availability?
Hi Kevin i have a 2006 club car all new fuel lines and filters new plug and carburetor it will run great for a day and then it wont run it bogs down very intermittent lost on what i need to do next also new voltage regulator
If it starts and runs after the engine cools, it sounds like you may need to replace the ignition coil and igniter. The igniter is built into the coil. Make sure the oil is not overfilled. Overfilling can cause issues with the crankcase vent that runs the fuel pump. remove the fuel line from the carb when the cart stops running and see if you still have fuel flow. It wont pump out fast but if there's no flow, then the pump is failing.
Also if i put my hand over the carburetor i can get it to run but it may or may not keep running i did also replace the fuel pump i think i will replace the coil but i seen your video on the governor and i think someone messed with it they had the linkage tied strapped but its not any more i got it used and didnt run right when i got it and never worked on these before you seam to be my only hope besides a shop thank you for you quick response John H
I thought the govener bracket was just on a pivot..does the rod its on that goes into the engine actually do something?
Yes, the governor is part of the transaxle since the engine has no internal governor.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts ok so the bracket does need to turn the rod..and not be loosely on there
The cart has a rev limiter, you don’t need a governor. The governor is put in just for golf courses to keep your speed slow on the course. The rev limiter will keep you from damaging your engine not the governor. Loosen the bolt and let that Governor spin freely and bypass it all together. Again, a governor has no other purpose than to regulate your speed. Bypassing it or doing any mods isn’t going to hurt your engine. Make sure your rev limiter is working and go have fun.
I adjusted mine today I can get up to 19 mph now. I was maxed out at 12 mph at first. My cart came from a golf course the governor was turned down to the point it had a very slow takeoff
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I am going to replace both of the throttle cables(from box to back and governor cable) - this helps a bunch. My question though is around the rev limiter - doesn't the rev limiter keep the rpms down so the engine doesn't disintegrate? I thought the governor just regulated the speed? So with this particular cart, isn't the risk a safety issue? Keeping the cart from speeding? TIA.
The rev limited does exactly what the name implies, it limits the RPMs. Its only design is to protect the engine. I cuts off the ignition if the RPMs get too high and re-enables ignition when the RPMs drop. It basically shorts the ignition coil to ground. In a failure situation, this is permanent or more frequent. These engines will grenade themselves if they over-rev. The governor only governs the speed of the transaxle. It does this by regulating the throttle position.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Thanks for the confirmation. After just checking, I am not even sure my rev limiter is kicking in. I know the Gov needs readjusting after I replace the cables but I will need to research the rev limiter is not engaging. High RPMs and no governor - the grandkids will kill themselves if they don't blow it up first :(
Someone may have cut the ground wire off the rev limiter. Check your serial number to confirm the year before you order one. They are slightly different between generations. The first 2 numbers after the beginning letters are the last 2 digits of the year. The serial number should be located on the floor just below the steering column.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Yes - I saw that - I have an 07 DS. I still need to find a video of a replacement of one so I can see the correct wiring/mapping to compare mine too. I found info on checking Ohms that shouldn't be too hard to check on. So yes the ground could be suspect too. Had rear-end leak repaired which required engine removal and then went back to have the muffler replaced(I am sure that was a casuality of engine removal).
So intrigued I walked back out to look at...The ground is cut..Looks like it may be too short to get a connector on to extend..Other than hard to get to, I may have to replace. Took some pics to validate.
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Si. Yes.
Can only change gears with engine off. Changed all micro switches and still nothing, can anyone help? 1991 gas club car
TheMurfeeee
Not sure what you are asking about. What do you mean by changing gears?
Mine doing same gear grinding turn off goes right in gear did you get fix.
@@glennwilliams15 Could be the coupler that connects the torque converter to the transaxle
I’m having a similar issue with my 2007 club car DS gas cart. It back fires every once in a while but the main issue is when I take my foot off the pedal the engine continues to run/idle. It doesn’t accelerate thank god but just keeps a low idle. I have to switch the lever from forward to neutral to make the engine turn off. Any suggestions?
Backfiring is usually caused by the throttle cables being out of adjustment or ignition staying on when it shouldn't be. If the engine is continuing to run when you release the accelerator pedal, you have issues with the wiring, micro switches or accelerator rod adjustment. You can google the wiring diagram for your cart to make sure all of the wires on the micro switches are in the correct positions. There are 2 switches on the shifter and 2 switches in the black control box where the solenoid is located. One of these switches on the shifter is for the reverse buzzer so its not part of the start/run/stop circuits. I've had so many carts with the wires on the wrong terminals of these switches. If the wiring is correct, then one or more of these switches is bad and should be replaced. I would just replace the 3 used in the start/run/stop circuits. You can also test the switches with an Ohm meter to verify they work. Diagrams for these switches can also be found with a quick google search. The accelerator rod (comes from the accelerator pedal and goes into the control box to rotate the throttle cam) may be out of adjustment causing the stop circuit switch to not close. This is the most rare but it does happen. These engines have a magneto style ignition (ignition coil fired by magnet on the flywheel, similar to a push mower engine). The ignition coil is shorted to ground to "kill" spark. Your cart isn't shorting the ignition to ground.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Make a million dollars! Figure out a way to make these golf carts faster with a aftermarket carburetor, turbo or whatever.
Can you sort a ezgo clutch snatching
I'm not sure what you mean.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts when I release the clutch instead of a nice acceleration, it jumps forward
Sorry, I'm still not sure what you mean. There is no way to manually release or engage the clutch in a regular golf cart. Golf carts engage the clutch after the engine starts and gets up to speed.
When I start to accelerate,in stead of a smooth take off , it jumps forward then accelerates. Hope this helps
Just bend the gov bracket. Easy fix.
Multi million dollar idea for someone. Figure out a way to get more tork and speed out of these small engines !!! I have a 2003 Club Car that will only do 14 miles per hour. I want 25 to 28mph out of her. I'm looking at new rear end gears and a heavy duty spring kit for the clutch. Installing a tachometer (in a perfect world rev limiter will allow 3900 rpm) and 12" wheels and 23" tires.
You can gain torque and RPMs with heavy engine mods like tune cam shaft, port polish, springs, etc. Its not a new idea. People have been doing that to lawn mower engines for years.
2011 my ass.
Then its your ass.
In your professional opinion what is the safest way to make a club car ds gas faster without damaging it? Is there a proper way to get another 4-5mph out of it? Mine feels like a little girl in a Barbie jeep is going to pass me lol
Bypass the governor all together. A governor is put on to control speed, not to keep you from damaging your engine. Now it can be used for that if it’s the only option installed. Golf carts have rev limiters. Rev limiters cut out at the top safe rpm for the engine. So in other words it will not allow you to hurt your engine. So you don’t need a governor and a rev limiter you only need one or the other. So why do golf carts have governor’s? To control speed on a golf course. That’s it! The governor being bad or bypassed will not hurt your engine. The only way you will hurt your engine is if your rev limiter gives out and usually when that happens you will have a no start condition.