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  • Check out the 2011 Week 5 game highlights between the New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers!
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Komentáře • 184

  • @SPTO
    @SPTO Před 5 lety +230

    Newton was so raw back in his rookie year. Steve Smith was a guy you hated if he wasn't on your team but he sure was a helluva talent.

    • @__deebzz__
      @__deebzz__ Před 5 lety +1

      SPTO
      Still is

    • @daltonhill5110
      @daltonhill5110 Před 5 lety +3

      I'm a Texans fan and I like Steve Smith

    • @MikeHawkbaby
      @MikeHawkbaby Před 5 lety +6

      Fuck I’m a Saints fan and I like Steve Smith 🤷🏻‍♂️ the way he played the game of the football, at his height, and at his weight as a receiver is beautiful to me.

    • @Vari___
      @Vari___ Před 3 lety

      @@MikeHawkbaby well u were out of luck. Y’all had to face the panthers twice a year

    • @kobebrayden9639
      @kobebrayden9639 Před 2 lety

      I know I'm kinda randomly asking but does anyone know of a good site to watch new movies online?

  • @GamerModeTwentyThree
    @GamerModeTwentyThree Před 5 lety +67

    When the saints and panthers play it’s gonna be an intense game to watch and we are witnessing Drew Brees vs Cam Newton go at every year two times and who dat nation go saints

  • @NikoRavage
    @NikoRavage Před 5 lety +68

    Man i miss that 2011 offense with Sproles and Graham.😫😟

    • @calvinthagoatENT
      @calvinthagoatENT Před 5 lety +9

      This offense right now with Thomas and Kamara is good but we just don't have depth at WR like we did back then. We got 4 offensive stars then hella scrubs lol

    • @crazybanana5574
      @crazybanana5574 Před 5 lety

      @@calvinthagoatENT we got it now

    • @MikeHawkbaby
      @MikeHawkbaby Před 5 lety +1

      Ehhh Saints got plenty of depth at WR, just no one has emerged as the true WR3 yet in my opinion. Michael Thomas, and Ted Ginn Jr? That’s a damn good 1 and 2, Just traequon Smith, Kirkwood Jr, etc someone needs to step up and start making plays, CONSISTENTLY. And then the WR core will be beautiful.

    • @fazewhiteboi1506
      @fazewhiteboi1506 Před 5 lety

      Fuck Graham

    • @HimmyProdz692
      @HimmyProdz692 Před rokem

      They were elite

  • @jaquessimmons9324
    @jaquessimmons9324 Před 4 lety +17

    I love y’all are reminding the people of how great a QB cam is. I commend this channel 🙌🏾

  • @nolajets6382
    @nolajets6382 Před 5 lety +10

    Steve Smith,Chad Johnson, and Marvin Harrison always torched out secondary

  • @foreversevenfold1666
    @foreversevenfold1666 Před 5 lety +29

    Man so many Saints that would be on the same Eagles team a few years later. Sproles, Jenkins, Robinson...

    • @foreversevenfold1666
      @foreversevenfold1666 Před 5 lety +4

      @Ken D I mean we won the Superbowl with all three of them so I'm not too mad about it...

    • @justinowen9526
      @justinowen9526 Před 4 lety +2

      Jenkins ended up becoming one of the best safeties in the league after New Orleans

    • @ryapowa
      @ryapowa Před 4 lety

      @@justinowen9526 He was already one of the best in New Orleans, just never got any recognition. He was a leader in the locker room and I'm so mad that we went and signed Jarius Byrd instead of retaining Jenkins

    • @edithrogers8000
      @edithrogers8000 Před 4 lety +2

      WE'RE GETTING JENKINS BACK

    • @ryapowa
      @ryapowa Před 4 lety

      @@edithrogers8000 At what price? If it's a lot I would've rather kept Bell

  • @felix-tt4be
    @felix-tt4be Před 5 lety +126

    Cam newton was always a pocket passer. look at the throws he makes. People think that just because he has alot of rushing yards doesnt mean he's a pocket passer

    • @EverlastingAura1
      @EverlastingAura1 Před 5 lety +21

      I mean he's really not a true pocket passer

    • @richardbrown986
      @richardbrown986 Před 5 lety +12

      We never invest in a o line , just garbage to protect cam. Back up qb's dont last a full quarter .

    • @kevindel-angel3347
      @kevindel-angel3347 Před 5 lety +24

      @Slevin hahahaha he flat out sucks but he won an NFL MVP 🤔 Lol sit down kid. Ima a die hard saints fan and I KNOW cam is talented. Look at his stats. You dont put up numbers like he does if you "suck"

    • @derrickmcneill944
      @derrickmcneill944 Před 5 lety

      Put some respect on my G name

    • @justinowen9526
      @justinowen9526 Před 4 lety +1

      Cam is not a natural pocket passer. But he definitely has arm talent. He's definitely a better passer than Vick was tho. What makes him so valuable tho is his rushing talent and size. He's the size of a linebacker with the speed of a RB.

  • @Aroneazy
    @Aroneazy Před 5 lety +49

    Steve Smith Sr is an OG!! He punked Jenkins

    • @robertsmith4875
      @robertsmith4875 Před 5 lety

      Arona Sanchez yeah but right after he punked Jenkins Steve Smith got punked by Roman Harper

    • @teamgrinders9152
      @teamgrinders9152 Před 5 lety +7

      @@robertsmith4875 congrats praising a late hit and the bounty gate saints. You must be a proud fan. Like when the refs punked the saints last year in the nfc championship game 🤣🤣

    • @JBabi2u
      @JBabi2u Před 5 lety +1

      😂😂😂... still makes me laugh. Jenkins had ZERO to do with that play. It was Greer getting mossed on, and Harper with the late hit.....😂😂😂

  • @benmaloy9757
    @benmaloy9757 Před 3 lety +4

    That first touchdown catch by Steve Smith was incredible. As a Tampa fan, I hated those catches he would make, but damn

  • @derekburke6674
    @derekburke6674 Před 3 lety +2

    deangelo williams was such an underrated player

  • @yourwayorthehighway2631
    @yourwayorthehighway2631 Před 5 lety +40

    Sproles in his prime

  • @yourwayorthehighway2631
    @yourwayorthehighway2631 Před 5 lety +22

    Brees in his prime

  • @illmatic826
    @illmatic826 Před 5 lety +12

    As a Saints fan I respect the Panthers

  • @Hothiboi
    @Hothiboi Před 4 lety +3

    NFC South was always the cool kids division

  • @neenyweeny5148
    @neenyweeny5148 Před 5 lety +48

    2:40 the infamous late hit

    • @agk9276
      @agk9276 Před 5 lety +1

      W

    • @ballthemblack
      @ballthemblack Před 5 lety +11

      and that actually started the real hatred between the two even though they been hated each other since 1995

    • @itmejac6945
      @itmejac6945 Před 5 lety +6

      It didn’t even faze Smith, what a beast

    • @sergiobeltranjr.8097
      @sergiobeltranjr.8097 Před 5 lety +3

      BountyGate

    • @robertsmith4875
      @robertsmith4875 Před 5 lety +1

      Jac ck naw it did faze him because he didn’t even go after Roman Harper like he should have

  • @samnetta2412
    @samnetta2412 Před 5 lety +2

    This was my first ever Panthers game. I’ve been going to every game ever since! #keeppounding

  • @just_an_empty_sign
    @just_an_empty_sign Před 5 lety +18

    I miss when Stewart, D-Will and Smith were on the Panthers

  • @kbeezyk
    @kbeezyk Před 5 lety +16

    Bruh, I forgot how good Deangelo Williams was! Plus Mike Jenkins taking that L all over the field today.

  • @EWUFBIiswatching
    @EWUFBIiswatching Před 5 lety

    This takes me back for sure.

  • @self-righteousideologue9398

    2011 Saints, one of the best offenses of all time. Drew Brees had one of the best QB seasons of all time. He absolutely destroyed it

  • @Jakester428
    @Jakester428 Před 3 lety +2

    Man if we had 2020's defense on that 2011 team, we were going undefeated

  • @ficessb
    @ficessb Před 5 lety +21

    saints are pretty good

  • @BRINKS400
    @BRINKS400 Před 5 lety +9

    Can yall upload the halloween saints vs steelers throwback? Like so they can see this.

  • @mmclaurin8035
    @mmclaurin8035 Před 5 lety +3

    NFC South has been the toughest division in football for almost 12 years now, and it got even harder to win once Cam came to town. Name another division with better QBs.

    • @mmclaurin8035
      @mmclaurin8035 Před 4 lety +1

      @J Brees, Ryan, Newton >>>>>>>>>>> Manning, Wentz, Smith, Prescott
      I mean, there are possibly 3 HoF QBs playing in the NFC South right now. GTFO with that NFC East crap.

    • @Ab_23-.
      @Ab_23-. Před 4 lety

      @@mmclaurin8035 yeah manning's the closest dude to hof which is sad

  • @doctorbarber1
    @doctorbarber1 Před rokem

    Cam had a cannon before all the injuries. This was a fun time to be a Panthers fan.

  • @joejones1991
    @joejones1991 Před 5 lety +5

    Man deangelo williams was fun to watcg

    • @NikoRavage
      @NikoRavage Před 5 lety +1

      As a saints fan, i was so happy when him and steve smith left.

  • @rustylove3033
    @rustylove3033 Před 5 lety

    I'm from Charlotte but I'm die hard dolphins fAn but I pull for my home town team also. love him or hate him. cam almost out gunned one of the very best in his rookie year . hats off to Newton

  • @jasminemay5493
    @jasminemay5493 Před 5 lety

    thanks! it works fast

  • @rashaisherman9956
    @rashaisherman9956 Před 5 lety +5

    Imagine the saints offense with Jimmy Graham , Brandon cooks, Micheal Thomas, and Alvin kamara

    • @mikespongili8254
      @mikespongili8254 Před 4 lety

      Kamara and Ingram were a great backfield. Kamara, Thomas, and Sproles are slippery multipurpose type backs, while Ingram was a power downhill runner.

  • @seanparlsl5001
    @seanparlsl5001 Před 5 lety

    Damn that block by j stew on the steve smith td doe

  • @robsmith961
    @robsmith961 Před 5 lety +4

    3:40 could have been a saftey nowadays.

  • @bohanonclark4788
    @bohanonclark4788 Před 5 lety +2

    Boy deangelo willams was RAAAAWWWW

  • @urdadpoooll
    @urdadpoooll Před 5 lety +3

    Love football

  • @MrTherockobama
    @MrTherockobama Před 5 lety +3

    another year we should have gone to the superbowl, good times

    • @TheVicvega26
      @TheVicvega26 Před 5 lety +2

      I think 2011 was the best team the Saints ever had. Just another choke in the playoffs. We have so many of those now.

  • @KingDeeba
    @KingDeeba Před 5 lety +1

    i was there 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @BarbellThor
    @BarbellThor Před 5 lety +1

    My favorite was that roughing the passer that didn't exist.

  • @austinwayne8295
    @austinwayne8295 Před 5 lety +2

    Deangelo was so good

  • @ldproductions509
    @ldproductions509 Před 5 lety +3

    Do a video on the Houston Oilers franchise

  • @RyanGames101
    @RyanGames101 Před 5 lety +3

    That was a catch

  • @MrSaints74
    @MrSaints74 Před 5 lety +2

    As a Saints fan, I was so pissed off at Harper for that cheap shot on Smith. He should have got thrown out of the game for being an idiot.

    • @aaronbreland8292
      @aaronbreland8292 Před rokem

      Yeah for real! That hit was way too late. It’s bad enough that smith made our d look silly but Harper made us look worse with that shot

  • @ombbloodbathfanpage22
    @ombbloodbathfanpage22 Před 4 lety +1

    Cam would run into a fight but can’t dive on the football

  • @jefferyrobertson7520
    @jefferyrobertson7520 Před 5 lety +3

    New Orleans Saints is the only NFC West Division from 1970 through 1993 era

    • @G0Chiefs
      @G0Chiefs Před 5 lety +3

      Falcons , 49ers and Rams and Saints were the NFC west from '70 through '01. And when the Panthers came into the league in '95 they were in the NFC west also.

    • @jefferyrobertson7520
      @jefferyrobertson7520 Před 5 lety

      G0Chiefs yep only four NFC West Division from 1970 to 1993 era Atlanta Falcons Los Angeles Rams New Orleans Saints and San Francisco 49ers

    • @BornLiveandDieby
      @BornLiveandDieby Před 5 lety +2

      Jeffery Robertson I don’t get you

    • @jefferyrobertson7520
      @jefferyrobertson7520 Před 5 lety

      Born 4/20 Live and Die by 4/20 my favorite NFL team early 90s Atlanta Falcons Dallas Cowboys Houston Oilers Los Angeles Raiders and Los Angeles Rams

  • @redrthewiseone2229
    @redrthewiseone2229 Před 5 lety +4

    Dang Sean Payton put on weight

    • @kylem2693
      @kylem2693 Před 4 lety

      Cajun food will do that to ya

    • @ehleaming
      @ehleaming Před 3 lety

      @@kylem2693 more like divorce

  • @PackBrewBadgeWI4
    @PackBrewBadgeWI4 Před 8 měsíci

    This was the first meeting between the Saints and the Panthers in 2011, the same season when the Saints put a bounty on Cam Newton.

  • @Gungho73
    @Gungho73 Před rokem

    I was like I don't remember this game as a incredible duel. Then I remembered why I remember this game different, 3 minutes in. That cheap shot on Steve Smith was rediculous by Harper. When I think of hits that needed out of the game, I don't think of "laying" on the QB as viable. This however IS the type that needed to be pushed out of the game though.

  • @fly5155
    @fly5155 Před 5 lety

    I was there! #KeepPounding

  • @KNGSLYR1669
    @KNGSLYR1669 Před 2 lety

    DeAngelo most underrated RB ever

  • @LaTrey_95
    @LaTrey_95 Před 4 lety

    Man I know my Falcons and Saints hate each other, but it's a respectful hate if that makes sense, but the Panthers and Saints got some TRUE bad blood. That big fight they had in 2014 was insane.

  • @byronjones8246
    @byronjones8246 Před 5 lety +4

    Breeze owns Carolina...

  • @mikevoss3732
    @mikevoss3732 Před 4 lety +3

    I like the panthers more than the falcan’ts. Who dat say?!?

  • @timbrown5576
    @timbrown5576 Před 3 lety

    Steve Smith kicked Malcolm Jenkins" ass!

  • @TheDude4077
    @TheDude4077 Před 5 lety

    This is the only game John Kasay played in Charlotte not wearing blue. I'm glad the Panthers gave him the one day contract to retire a Panther.

  • @torgo4ever
    @torgo4ever Před 5 lety +2

    What " duel " ?!?!? Newton can't hold Brees' jock !!! What did he hit ... like ... maybe ... three or four passes to receivers in-stride ? He got more yards from penalties on passing downs than he did throwing the ball. Brees was his typical first ballot hall of fame self delivering strikes to anyone with two hands.

  • @agk9276
    @agk9276 Před 5 lety +6

    Cam newton just doesn't have it in him. Saints are winning tonight

    • @gregoropesa5028
      @gregoropesa5028 Před 5 lety +6

      AGK927 Saints are just a better team too

    • @aidenprovenzano9590
      @aidenprovenzano9590 Před 5 lety +4

      Looks like y’all were right who dat nation

    • @richardharper4637
      @richardharper4637 Před 5 lety +2

      Same with Aaron Rodgers.

    • @agk9276
      @agk9276 Před 5 lety

      @@richardharper4637 but still doing better than newton

    • @LeMasterTrollious
      @LeMasterTrollious Před 5 lety +2

      Eh Rodgers is trash this year, not even top 15 in anything except TD/INT ratio, throwaways and sacks. Stat padding clown who is more worried about his precious numbers than actually leading his team to victory

  • @tsmacks9
    @tsmacks9 Před 5 lety

    Cam been Drew’s child for almost a decade na. Who dat!

    • @EWUFBIiswatching
      @EWUFBIiswatching Před 5 lety

      T SMACKS I wanna say so much hateful shit but that comment is actually funny.

  • @wildncuzimyoung
    @wildncuzimyoung Před 5 lety +4

    Who Dat Who Dat Who Dat Say gonna beat them Saints #WhoDat #WhoDatNation #Saints

  • @Travis-kt7cn
    @Travis-kt7cn Před 4 lety

    Roman Harper lucky they was on a football field with teammates. Steve Smith was about to kill that guy.

  • @daltoninman6972
    @daltoninman6972 Před 3 lety +1

    Glad brees won a superbowl when he did, saints couldn't put a defense together to save there life

  • @floking8792
    @floking8792 Před 3 lety

    Carolina did Cam so wrong.. In my eyes, you put a cam in TB and they'll beat NO 2 times out of 2🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️..

  • @lemleyod
    @lemleyod Před rokem

    Mare barely walking to kick the XP and getting blocked pretty much summed up how shitty he was with Carolina. Guy just sucked his one year here.

  • @buzzcitymob6230
    @buzzcitymob6230 Před 4 lety

    The Carolina Panthers should have more than one classic game on this channel. Not one game from there 15-1 season in 2015. Whoever is running this channel needs to do better.

  • @DustinPlatt
    @DustinPlatt Před 5 lety +2

    Cam hasn't looked like Cam *Cam* too much this year.

  • @randallaufrecht5377
    @randallaufrecht5377 Před 5 lety

    WHO DAT!!!

  • @Rogue-bh4ds
    @Rogue-bh4ds Před 5 lety +7

    Who wants to come to my place for Panther Gumbo? Who dat!!!

    • @ChaosFilmsSports
      @ChaosFilmsSports Před 5 lety

      bears or saints are going to RIP you in layoffs or super bowl

    • @Rogue-bh4ds
      @Rogue-bh4ds Před 5 lety +3

      @@ChaosFilmsSports what clown, I'mma Saints Fan!

    • @gregoropesa5028
      @gregoropesa5028 Před 5 lety +1

      Lol you’re saying this like the Panthers are actually playing for something

    • @pumpkingreg6673
      @pumpkingreg6673 Před 5 lety

      Who dat gon-na tack-le Diggs?

  • @ChristopherPoitras
    @ChristopherPoitras Před 11 měsíci

    50 seconds, three timeouts and couldn't even get to the 50.

  • @ghislainemaxwellofficial6083

    I thought this meant vet as in veterinarian

  • @CPerryTravels
    @CPerryTravels Před 5 lety +1

    It was a great game, the video quality is very poor though even in 1080p

  • @wrightfam9435
    @wrightfam9435 Před 4 lety +1

    Who Dat

  • @buddyholland796
    @buddyholland796 Před 4 lety +2

    Cam is way over rated and that is coming from a Panther fan. I mean his run game was good but almost non-existent these days and man thinks he is throwing a hail mary every single play. It's like expecting receivers to catch a football shot out of a canon from 15 yards away. Ridiculous

  • @PodcastDeclassified
    @PodcastDeclassified Před 3 lety

    These the bountygate Saints because that endzone hit was sus??

  • @Savage-gt1yx
    @Savage-gt1yx Před 5 lety

    I swear the panthers can never beat the saints

    • @fly5155
      @fly5155 Před 5 lety

      21 Savage beat them week 17, swept them in 2015

    • @supadupa6891
      @supadupa6891 Před 5 lety

      Beat them in 2013 too

  • @brentmcmanus1336
    @brentmcmanus1336 Před 5 lety

    Bro I forgot how good Godfrey was, dude just loved to hit 😂

  • @TheLegend-oe5yc
    @TheLegend-oe5yc Před 5 lety

    Back when saints use to be a dirty team

  • @Rockstopmotion
    @Rockstopmotion Před 3 lety

    Saints linemen got wrecked 2:42

  • @theunknown4570
    @theunknown4570 Před 4 lety +2

    Too bad Cams a coward. Wouldnt go for the loose ball in the SUPERBOWL OF ALL GAMES!!!!! WOW!!!

    • @dominichenderson3778
      @dominichenderson3778 Před 4 lety

      Nigga shut up, if there was 600lbs about to jump on it too and I'm a QB imma save my body too dumb nigga. I hate people like you god damn.

    • @marktastic86
      @marktastic86 Před 3 lety

      @@dominichenderson3778 It's the fuckin' Super Bowl.

    • @marktastic86
      @marktastic86 Před 3 lety

      @ Yeah, and they would've had to go for it on 4th down. That's another shot to get the first... In the SUPER BOWL.

  • @bradleyburton2664
    @bradleyburton2664 Před 3 lety +1

    Brandon Lafelle, Steve Smith, Greg Olson, DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart.... Cam throws for 200 yards.... proof that Cam has always been a bum. The year he won MVP he didn't even throw for 4,000 yards. 15-1 record saved his ass that year.

  • @RaySwank225
    @RaySwank225 Před 5 lety

    When the Saints defense was pure trash

  • @heavyizthacrown-5842
    @heavyizthacrown-5842 Před 5 lety

    Cam mis-managed that last drive. The Panthers’ defense just LET the Saints walk down the field and score. Smh

  • @markhine4020
    @markhine4020 Před 5 lety

    Who thehell does your captioning?!! They need to do way better n correct their spelling. At least get someone who knows the players names n gender!!!!!

  • @truthhunter1177
    @truthhunter1177 Před 4 lety +4

    Cam newton is just another quarterback. Nothing special
    He not a true leader
    Just too Immature

  • @dametime128
    @dametime128 Před 5 lety +2

    newton is David garrard with a little athleticism. One of if not the most overhyped overrated QBs of all time. He’s just not good. Take his run game away and he’s a back up potential 3rd string QB

    • @curlybill6207
      @curlybill6207 Před 5 lety +4

      Willie Andrews man you must really hate Cam Newton lol

  • @ilovegodandjesusjohn316
    @ilovegodandjesusjohn316 Před 10 měsíci

    1 John 4:1
    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

  • @dametime128
    @dametime128 Před 5 lety +1

    God I mean newton is such a joke that’s why ben outplayed him this year. He’s the most overrated qb of all time. Only a 3 time pro bowler, he won an mvp while facing a weak schedule. Choked in the sb, boomer esisaon has better stats then cam and people talk about cam should be a hall of famer? Are you kidding me? If boomer isn’t in the hall of fame why should cam be?

    • @GENOBURRITO1
      @GENOBURRITO1 Před 5 lety

      Maybe because he is black?

    • @curlybill6207
      @curlybill6207 Před 5 lety

      Who cares about Ben.

    • @jamtop1105
      @jamtop1105 Před 5 lety

      Damn, y'all love dragging this man down... 🙄🙄

    • @originalpebbles
      @originalpebbles Před 5 lety

      Cam Newton is a future hall of fame QB and here's why:
      If you'd like to talk Boomer Esiason comparisons I'll be more than happy. Cam Newton in his career has been better and without an eye test, let's simply use stats:
      In a 14yr career Esiason had roughly 39,500 all purpose yards, 254 all purpose tds, an 80-93 career w/l record, and a completion percentage average of 57.0%
      So far, in an 8yr career Newton has roughly 34,280 all purpose yards, 240 all purpose tds, a 68-53-1 career w\l record, and a completion percentage average of 59.7%
      Both Qbs had 3 pro bowls and 1 first team all pro before age 30.
      Cam Newton has 7 playoff games with a 3-4 record compared to Esiason's 5 playoff games with a 3-2 record. What that means is 2 seasons Cam Newton was a better QB in order to lead his team to the playoffs. Although ultimately both have lost the Super Bowl appearance they had.
      In his 8yrs Newton has 15 Comebacks and 17 game winning drives, Esiason in 14yrs had 19 and 26, respectively.
      If Esiason is your guideline for HOF entry, Cam Newton will after his 9th season have been better than Esiason is his 14yr career. But if you still do not believe Cam is not "overrated" then I'd suggest reading this article:
      www.catscratchreader.com/2018/3/7/16988450/carolina-panthers-potential-hall-of-famers-cam-newton
      Oh and the Ben vs. Cam argument is ridiculous. Yes, we could compare the two but what you'd end up with is the discovery that in the first 7 years of his career he had more yards than Ben on a team that was the Steelers lesser. Yes, Ben has been a better qb in his career however until you are able to switch their teams, we won't know how Ben would have fared without the abundance of talent the Steelers have had compared to the Panthers. I agree Ben outplayed Cam in that particular game this season. But before that game and injury in that game (which Watt did try to avoid causing) Cam had won his team more games and was playing better than Ben. The Panthers porous o-line and young secondary coupled with their aged and lack of pass rush cost them the opportunity for the game to be closer, not Cam.
      I appreciated the opportunity to show you the faults in your argument, but the simpl fact is Cam is underrated and even his fellow players believe so, as he was voted one of the most underrated players in the game:
      www.al.com/sports/2019/01/player-poll-picks-cam-newton-as-nfls-most-underrated-quarterback.html