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Repairing King Liberty Trumpet from 1920's

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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • King Liberty trumpet was a professional model of it's day and used by many Jazz players like Harry James, Bunk Johnson and the Benny Goodman Orchestra. In this video I tell a little about history and how I repaired this horn. I also play a little. The workshop clips were shot at Trevor Head's brass repair course in old school Llangunllo where I attended 07/2018. www.trevorhead...
    Brass Instrument Repair Timo Myllymäki
    Tällä videolla esittelen King Liberty trumpetin historiaa ja kerron kuinka korjasin sen. Mukana myös soittonäyte.
    Soitinkorjaus / puhallinsoitinkorjaus Timo Myllymäki

Komentáře • 31

  • @baronvonpanzer6594
    @baronvonpanzer6594 Před rokem +1

    Easily my Dream horn, acquired one a few months back, $650. Absolutely beautiful shape, Valves work like the day it came off the line, no dents, minimal scratches, the gold on the Bell is still there and the case with all of the original mouthpieces and surprisingly enough Slide Grease. Serial is 126317, 1049, "s" is also stamped on one of the valves. Absolutely love the horn.

  • @jeffanderson4743
    @jeffanderson4743 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome post and great information. Thanks for sharing.

  • @loengkeoi
    @loengkeoi Před 3 lety +1

    Cool

  • @user-qk1wx7hu8l
    @user-qk1wx7hu8l Před 2 lety +1

    That looks like my Pappas trumpet but it has more desines on the bell

  • @MikeM91320
    @MikeM91320 Před 5 lety +1

    Just purchased on just like this--same era etc-- off of eBay. Can't wait to get it.Thanks for the great video.

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks and congrats on your new trumpet! King Liberty is super!

    • @MikeM91320
      @MikeM91320 Před 5 lety

      @@timyllym Just got the trumpet and after giving it a bath, shining the bell, greasing slides and oiling valves, it sounds great. Question: did these old trumpets have cork on valves? Seems to be missing. Springs feel worn. Thanks

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety

      @@MikeM91320 Great to hear! Yes, there should be cork washers in valve stems. You can get corks and new springs from any spare part sellers like Ferree's, they shouldn't cost too much.

  • @KevinTorres-hy7ib
    @KevinTorres-hy7ib Před 3 lety +2

    Hello! Happy new year!
    I wanted to know how you cleaned this horn and got it looking so nice!
    Also, my “A” tuning slide is stuck and I want to know how I can get it unstuck!
    Thank you in advance

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 3 lety

      Hello Kevin! For cleaning I just used Silvo silver polish, but I think any silver polish will do fine.
      Stuck tuning slide may need a repairman for getting it out because there is a risk of damaging your instrument. You can try with some freeing agent you can find from a hardware store. See this video of a collegue czcams.com/video/s-m-MaT2SnI/video.html but I don't recommend doing any hard maneuvers by yourself.

  • @mezzmezzrow426
    @mezzmezzrow426 Před 5 lety

    fantastic job and great video, thanks for sharing. I've been after either one of these of the later model with the 'art deco' bracing. Problem is, they're all in the states and those which aren't in bad shape are expensive. The idea of fixing it at Trevor Head's has got me thinking!

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! These are great horns. I bought mine from USA Ebay. The post costs and taxes to Finland raised the price quite a lot but it was worth it.

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety

      I recommend Trevor Head's course, it was great.

  • @lunatica444
    @lunatica444 Před 3 lety +1

    wow...amazing work!!
    I have one and maybe you can help me. Where can I get the felts, corks and springs? seems impossible
    Mine has an serial number 73XXX so its a trumpet before 1926 when King introduced the 3 bell sizes but mine has an "L" stamped on the second valve under the serial number...what means that "L", large?
    Thank you very very much. I admire your work!

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 3 lety

      Thank You! Try to find the nearest brass repair tech in your area, he can help you with the felts etc. I'm not sure what L means. Liberty's at that age should have only one option, so no large bore or bell, but you never know.

    • @lunatica444
      @lunatica444 Před 3 lety

      @@timyllym Thank you Timo!

  • @Wanielyo
    @Wanielyo Před 5 lety +1

    Any work needed on the valves? you didn't show the condition of the pistons. Thanks

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety +1

      The valves were quite worn and little too loose on their casings which caused some sticking. They would have needed to be replated and honed to work perfectly but they were ok with thick oil. Anyway, I have sold the trumpet so now it's up to the next owner.

  • @tuniox8914
    @tuniox8914 Před 3 lety

    3rd valve is getting stuck

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 3 lety

      That's right, it was a little sticky. The valves were really worn out which was probably the reason they didn't work perfectly. Unfortunately I hadn't practiced valve plating at that point so I left the valves as they were. I have already sold that horn.

  • @malcolmchambers5499
    @malcolmchambers5499 Před 5 lety

    Hello, great video!!! what did you use to polish the horn?

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks! I polished the horn with Silvo silver polish.

  • @Bristers10
    @Bristers10 Před 4 lety

    I own a 1925 and 1930 King Liberty and have been wanting to get a replacement 3rd valve stop rod for both of them. Where did you find a replacement or could you recommend where I could find 2 that fit them? Thanks!

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 4 lety +1

      I bought a 2mm threaded brass rod from modelmotorcars.com but the thread interval (or width) wasn't exactly the same as in the trumpet. I was able to use it anyway, but I'm afraid I can't help with finding an exactly fitting rod.

    • @Bristers10
      @Bristers10 Před 4 lety +1

      Timo Myllymäki I do appreciate the reply and information! Thank you!

  • @ciscodisco_257
    @ciscodisco_257 Před 4 lety

    What bore size do 1920’s liberty trumpets have?

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 4 lety

      They are medium bore .449" (11.40mm), but feel more free blowing probably because the mouthpiece gap is small.

  • @tacoburger5
    @tacoburger5 Před 5 lety

    What are the songs you played after it was fixed up?

    • @timyllym
      @timyllym  Před 5 lety

      Hi, these three songs: Tin Roof Blues, part of Chet Baker's solo on Tangerine, Sir Duke