Behringer Td3 Distortion Pedals Shootout (No Talking)
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2020
- #behringertd3 #303 #acid
Behringer Td3 with Boss SD-1, Boss Ds-1, Boss Mt-2, RAT, SF300.
Let me know what’s your favorite.
Quick Shootout: 00:10
Boss SD-1: 02:07
Boss Ds-1: 01:22
Boss Mt2: 2:48
ProcoRat: 04:40
Behringer Super Fuzz SF300: 06:30
ALL TOGETHER: 09:34
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metal zone really gave that "acid" vibe more than the others
Metal Zone sounds killer
It is! Also the most versatile of the bunch thnx to it's way too wide (for a metal guitar) ranged parametric eq. You can really get it screaming at any frequency. (mine is slightly modded and also self oscillates!). I also got a Dirty Rat for the more classic sound, but if I want it agressive and raw, it's MT-2 all the way.
@@philippebokmaar2571 True STORY.
@@philippebokmaar2571 Does the DirtyRat have germanium components instead of silicon ones or was it a different model?
@@thedoublek4816Yes, Germanium. Breaks up a bit smoother compared to the original. No huge diff in my opinion, but no aficinado. My MT-2 is also Germanium-modded but it "breaks up" just as insane as it should...
Just ordered a td3. So happy I've got the metal zone. Definitely the best of these, and yeah the eq is perfect with synths. I've used it with others. Cheers on a great vid!
Thank you for posting this… this is so appreciated. Been working with the TD-3 and MPC and want to add some bite to the TD-3
Thanks for this video. This helped me make a few pedal choices!
Super Overdrive and the Metal Zone sound great in different ways
Your video is the best advertising for BOSS pedals there is, at least for people looking to add effects to their synths
Really helpful demonstration, thx for this one! 🔥👍
God this video is so freaking informational. Thank you!
Wow, each one had their own unique mid range bite. The super overdrive had a clarity to it that i liked.
Instantly thought that the RAT sounded best off the bat, but the Behringer pulled its weight too!
DS1 is powerful no?
@@sporn23 There are no best, this unit are degrading sound in a way we like, Its just taste.
pure informative bliss. thank you, you have a new subscriber.
massive! playful, musical, got all the combinations id go for... great job! i doff me hat
Super Overdrive is the one for me.
Excatly the type of vidéo i was searching so thank you, i got a TD3 a bit weak on distortion so i want to get a pedal but i dont know anything in pedal guitar world, thanks again bro.
hell yeah...nice usage, thanks for sharing
i use a boss gt-1 multieffect pedal. it does its job well. honestly it was what i had laying around here. so thats what i use .
very useful video, thx!
That's no shootout, when I can't shoot out any of them - I love them all!!!
Thanks for a great video! Maybe my favorite is the SD-1 for its smoothness. :)
The super over drive or better yet, ibanez tube screamer. They just make a 303 sound how it does in my head.
And they say the metal zone ain’t shit, sounds amazing here
Metal Zone is amazing on synth, but apparently (I’m not a guitarist at all lol) I think the EQ is like, poorly suited for the guitar tone that people try to get for metal?
I would like to hear the fulltone bass drive mosfet with a td3.
Super Fuzz, 3rd setting , period
Cool video!!!
Wow! This is interesting!
Metal Zone is timeless.
Legend
Might be worth experimenting with turning the master output of the TD-3 down. I find doing this often makes synths going through pedals sound better.
you're totally right!
Yeah, pedals are meant to pick up guitars mic-level signal, while synths are usually at line level
@@downhill2k013 Guitars are not mic level Its instruments level and there hi and low impedance
GOOD JOB MAN
Thanks!!!
just tremendous
Definitely the boss super overdrive sd1. God it sounds fat, warm and has nice presence compared to the rest. Thanx 4 the video, it's helped me decide which pedal to buy to go with my new td3. Respect to that!
Nick Davis boss bass overdrive ODB-3 will be my mane pedal pairing.
SD-1 hits the nail on the head I reckon tasty🤤
It depends what you want, for me super fuzz is most clean and rat is super deep and fat. Overdrive sounds awsome too but like i said it depends witch harmonics you want to get out
its weird how the super overdrive and the Metal Zone add a filter envelope sound to the attack
The TD-3 is using a DS-1 circuit built in.
try in this order: super fuzz, rat, overdrive. boost into a filter, overdrive after. to control top end. make the base sound with rat, the others add to it
Thank you for posting this! I have both the TD-3 and TB-03. I really like the internal distortion on the TD-3 and was trying to find the same effect for the TB-03. I tried the Rat, DS-1, and SD-1 based on this video and I think the SD-1 sounds the best. The Rat was OK, but too noisy and choppy, if that makes sense? It did keep a lot of the low end but that kind of gives it a muddy sound. The DS-1 sounded surprisingly horrible on every setting with no way to turn the effect down. My preferred setting on the SD-1 is with the drive turned down almost entirely and the tone about half way up - just gives it a little bit of extra warmth without ruining the sound. It does kill the bass but not a big deal for me - I'm not looking to do hard acid, just adding some 303 lines on top of the mix.
If I'm not wrong the TD3 it's a sort of clone the DS1. The TB3 built in overdrive recalls the Sd1 but it's different if you compare with the original one.
The technique of balance beetween drive and output level it's useful in order to have more colors in your sound. Cheers!
@@KUSHGRAM It's funny, right after I posted that I decided to give the Boss BD-2 a try and found that it was just ever-so-slightly better than the SD-1. I think they could get very similar sounds with some EQing, but directly out of the pedal the BD-2 retains more of the original tonal range, which means less of a noticeable change in tone when turning the pedal on. The expanded range also seems to sit the 303 into the mix a little better and gives it more space to be heard.
SF300 and Metal Zone - best sound
Boss Super Overdrive
METAL ZONE !
super overdrive for sure. most people don't get that overdrive was used as that classic 303 acid sound, not distortion.
I think they grabbed anything avaliable... The input gain stage of whatever mixer used was prolly the most common source in the early years. You get a fairly classic sound from almost any od/dist of that era. Especially eq'ed in a full mix. That said, I do like the sound of that super od in comparison... Got the other ones plus a sansamp, the mxr d+ and a big muff, but I might "need" a TS too now. Damn gas!
Hardfloor used the ProCo RAT Distortion...
Pro Co RAT is somewhere between a fuzz and a distortion. Guitar guys are sometimes surprised by the RAT distortion because it has a fuzz sound. But it's all *technically* distortion, even over-drive. I guess it's just different flavors :-)
@@MrArpSolina yes people used their own distortion effects but overdrive was something more universally accessible with how generic outboard gear works with amplifying audio, keep in mind acid is pre-Hardfloor.
back during those times you could go to a venue with just a 303 and chances are there would be a way to overdrive through most venue's setup since overdrive is based on amplification principles and distortion is based on manipulating the waveform of the actual source audio itself.(speaking as a live audio engineer who produces electronic music)
the end result can be similar but the audio processing is different. live grassroots acid tended to rely on overdrive more times than not over distortion because broke ass techno artists would just jam their 303 in guitar amps equipped with common Tube overdrive or push the gain stage on a mixer + EQ someone else provided. easier that way for most people in the scene rather than waste their shallow pockets on a distortion pedal.
PS keep in mind that at the end of the day its preference for what kind of 303 sound suits an artists own ears and their listeners, i tend to prefer overdrive because i feel like it is less "muddy" sounding and thats just an opinion. Ive just listened to way too much techno lol
@@philippebokmaar2571 fellow sound engineer gets it, was just speaking to the pedals in the vid but YES YES YES to your comment.
I think the RAT grabs the sound in just the right way.
How do you coknevt the pedals to the rd6, I cant seem to do it
The best for TB sound is MXR distortion + and Blues Drive by Boss
I agree, the blues driver is great and so is that yellow MXR distortion. In this demo the TD3 sounded very digital from these pedals somehow, like the distortion pedals just crushed out all life of the analog signal.
I agree with you. I have a blues driver 2 and a mxr distortion (for my TT-303). I love the distortion sound of my td-3. I think a pedal (for the distortion) is not needed...
One of my favorite electronic acts out there, Argiflex, regularly uses a Blues Driver on her acid bass lines.
DOD Carcosa
use the boss ds1 after a boss delay. gives great acid..
am i the only one wanting ALL OF THEM AT ONCE?!
you probably just hear a loud noise. but yeah im also curious
Everything on sounds like those videos where a dot-matrix printer plays music.
Iove no talking
Amazing video!
Btw was the drum track added with a seperate device or isit possible to do rhythm on the TD3??
Thank you!
No it’s not possibile…if I’m not wrong the drums here came from Novation Circuit
Get your hands on an S Cat Double Trouble...
Specifically designed for acid...
It's immense..
🤪
I’d love to try this pedal. I’m sure it’s pricey though
Metal Zone is nice. Where was the MXR?
Can you tell me, where is the green cable going to . . . Thanks.
piet hein the Green Cable it’s connected to a channel of my mackie 1604. A stereo out of this mixer goes to the behringer uca connected to the iPhone (with a camera connection kit).
🌟😎🙌🏼 Which other equipments you have in this setup?
You gotta realize that these pedals all just turn up the gain until it clips, and the important part is the filtering. That's what keeps it from all distorting to white noise. You can't demo a 303 without showing the range of the filter, because that's what makes the iconic part of the 303 sound. And you can't appreciate what a distortion pedal can do if you're not really exploring the interaction of that pedal's EQ vs. the the synth's filter. And different pedals sound better for much different things. Most of these pedals be good for lead acid stuff, but most of them will also kill the lower bass tones completely no matter how much you turn the tone knobs. So the Fuzz might sound bad on some lead stuff because it loses the clarity, but it sounds so much better in the lower range.
Everything is possible it is not possible to showcase it, Mixing with parameters like Eq, filters, gain, and drive can be done for 100 years and not be completed.
Personally, I prefer overdrive on acid lines as I don't like that overly distorted screech. The SD-1 sounds nice. Boss OS-2 & OD-2 are good too. I'm surprised at how good the Metal Zone sounds. Distortion is better on bass kicks. Try the Boss XT-2 Xtortion for killer 909 kicks! Overdrive is good on snares & metallic hats like the 606, 808 if used subtly inmho.
Thanks for sharing!
I have a lot of breath and very bad résult with TD3 ans mxr distorsion+ why?
maybe you can try to turning the master output of your td3 down. Test the balance from MXR output and drive finding a good dynamic and boosted sound.
Hi I have a question. I only hear my left 1 ear in headphone when plugging this pedal to my TD3. How do you get a “stereo” output from this? I’m missing something. I route the output with an instrument cable into a TR8. But that’s only 1 input and needs 2. Can’t find any info. Anyone have some tips?
The TD3 outputs mono sound through it's main output. (The headphones out is stereo) Most FX pedals are mono too, but some are stereo.
You can get a splitter cable that divides the mono signal into two equal halves. This is the easiest solution, but it doesn't work perfectly, you'll get lower signal strength on each of the channels, an you may also get some phase cancellation issues.
Another, better solution is to get a mixer. The mixer will turn your mono signal into a true stereo output with much more control of the output signal. You can then route the output signal from the mixer, into your tr-8 if you want to use the side chain functionality.
Don't plug your tr-8 back into the same mixer though, unless you are absolutely sure what you are doing. (It will blow out your speakers /eardrums)
@@JH-lo9ut thank you for letting me know, will explore the mixer route !
The onboard distortion on Roland tb-03 sounds significantly better than the one on td-3 imo. Just a bit expensive for that flimsy piece of hardware. Behringers is priced more accurately.
Yes l agree with you. The on board OD and Distortion in tb03 works very well, also the delay and some type of reverb are quite good!
Really don't rate the behringer td3's built in distortion though. Sounds a bit limp and is wasted space on the unit. Would have been more fun having a delay and reverb unit there instead.
That's interesting. I have the TB-03 and really don't like the internal distortion. It doesn't seem to have the same fuzzy, plasticky acid sound that you get with the TD-3 distortion. I actually watched this video to find out which pedal sounded most like the TD-3 so I could buy that one.
@@foxworth303 then the Behringer OD300 will be the one to go for. Or Boss DS-1 since that's the one that they tried to model in TD-3. Also in the Distortion site of OD300. But I'm guessing that DS-1 is also the one Roland modelled in the TB-03?
@@nym053 Roland claims in the manual that the overdrive is modeled after the Boss OD-2. I tried a DS-1 to see if that would work better and didn't care for the sound at all - way too harsh. I ended up going with the SD-1 - sounds nice and warm by comparison. The OD300 might have worked too, I suppose? I couldn't find any info about what distortion type Behringer chose to put into the TD-3 and there's just so many types out there.
Howw i hate metal zone on guitar but in td3 is awesome, like second detuned osc.
Super fuzz win
The 473rd one was best
DOD Carcosa fuzz... trust me.
And yet not a one of them sounds like the 303s in Wink's Higher State of Consciousness. Why?
You can do it for sure with the built in overdrive in the Roland boutique tb03!
so whats the one you liked the most?
RAT distortion, Boss Metal Zone that reserve beautiful surprizes on 303. Boss Sd1.
@@KUSHGRAM great thx 4 info 👌
Is it me, or those generate a lot of background noise?
I hear that TD3 have amazing clear own distortion, why you using pedals then?) It was needed for TB3 that haven't distortion on board but here is no reason to buy something else)
Hi! I have that pedals because I've used with an electric guitar or bass guitar years ago. Pedals are beautiful and GAS it's a trap! I've experienced this with a 303 style bassline just for fun. :)
If you use pedals also with other instruments you can find cheap pedals in the second hand market and make more noise.
@@KUSHGRAM did you compared pedals with VST distortion, is it have a sense to get pedals if it's enough of VST distortions or no how you think?
@@NatLifeSounds honestly never tried. I think you can get affordable result also with VST's (maybe from Guitar Amp Simulations or pedals like Positive Grids or Ik Multimedia).
@@KUSHGRAM interesting is it really have a difference)
@@NatLifeSounds maybe in the next video? Thanks for this! 😉
Super Overdrive just sounds ‘right’.
I don’t why but it doesn’t sound right. There’s something wrong with your chain or perhaps you might need a si box
You need to reamp these pedals, so much noise.
The best one is... the MXR M-104 Distortion + ... Have a look at this site, 29 different distortion pedals are tested on TB-303 patterns: www.acidvoice.com/tb_303_best_distortion_pedal.htm
rat sounds muddy
Metal Zone wins again
I am really sorry but no one of these Pedals is my favorite. I think the MXR Distortion + is the closest to be the best in my ears. Please check the videos if #DUCKTRONIC for a lot of examples.
never tried before an MXR distortion. Maybe in the future I can buy or exchange one :)
Thanks!
@@KUSHGRAM Yes, give it a try. You can listen to it at #DUCKTRONIC channel. I was surprised because there is only one prameter to tweak the sound. And MXR has some more nice pedals, the delays for example are brilliant for synths too. Have fun!
Guys never use distortion for acid tracks. Acid is made of overdriven sound. More punchy, more saturated. Distortion can't achieve it.
A bucket of diarrhea is what you're looking for
Just use whatever sounds good to you.
@@wetwater90 if everybody will use "whatever sounds good" we will sink in bullshit quite fast, which is not good