Behringer TD-3 Pattern Creation (very basic - just to help when you first get your one)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Very quick, simple video to help you on your way to program your own patterns in the Behringer TD-3. Not intended to cover all programming functions, but just the main elements to get you started.
Question from the originator of this video: Shall I re-do this video (and use a tripod this time!) or is it good enough for the simple purpose of starting you off with the TD-3 ?
Í just got my hands on a TD-3 today and the video was a great, quick explanation on the basic programming of the machine 🤖👍
@@ThizOne Enjoy :-)
Honestly, this was exactly what I needed and I didn't notice the shaky cam. It did it's job and got to the point quickly enough.
People who complain about shaky cam on a FREE tutorial just don't get it.
Thanks for the vid dude, played it at x0.50 🙃👍 For next videos would be awesome that you can see whole machine!
Yeah thanx for vid, i wish you would do one an talk too as not good reading
Finally! Someone who's prepared to say the sequencer isn't complicated and Difficult to grasp, Ive eve seen several video's listing the sequencer as a con. One even labeled it a dealbreaker! It blows my mind so many people just don't grasp that it's not just the unique saw/square wave analog filtere/envelope signal path circuitry that makes the 303 such an iconic machine, its just as much about the sequencer. Which is why there's have never been a truly faithful knock off until the last few years with a few higher end machines and now theres TD3 made by manufactures who understand the importance of the original sequencer's contribution to the iconic 303 baseline sound. And, yes, upon its launch, its sequencer got its rep for difficulty and frustratingly confusing two stage process, FOR MAKING BASS ACCOMPANIMENT GOR GUITAR. However, for creating iconic signature Acid house patterns, close yr eyes and tapa tapa tapa. It doesn't mater, the more random, the more interesting it can be. A day of tapping and playing about, you get used to where you need to put things for the more classic structured patterns. Ive wanted a genuine 303 for 25 years. Ive got a bunch of mono synths, a monologue, and used Live for over a decade, and ive never nailed a great acid line. Close, but no Ceephax, Vibert, Afx standard. And I knew it was pointless trying. IMy second td3 arrived today, first one yesterday. An hour after opening the first, I was jamming out to the best acid patterns id ever sequenced. Tappa, Tappa, Tappa...
Would love to see some of those patterns! Always great to watch more TD-3 videos on youtube, especially since I'm thinking of picking one up.
Jason Cherry - you aren’t wrong! Seems like nobody can be bothered to take the time to learn how to do anything these days! Great video by iix and TD3 is a fun little box!
Absolutely ! In fact, the sequencing method significantly contributes to the magic - and it's essential that clones include all the idiosyncrasies of the original. I've heard of people wanting to get the '303' experience by having their DAW (or whatever) feed MIDI notes into their TD-3 and then wonder why it doesn't sound like a 303. Forget it! Use the built-in sequencer and don't worry too much about understanding what it's trying to.... just go with the flow and let it do its thing !!! Granted, if you're trying to program a riff from a song you've heard, it can be a bit of a hassle (I've had experience since 1991 and I still can't get this right!). But for creating your own unique basslines, just go for it - like I did in this video - put in a bunch of random stuff and enjoy the result :-)
its not for hip hop thats what i wanted one for . danc eand house i can see it but not hip hop
@@HoodHandyman Not even acid rap...?;)
best tutorial that isn't 45 mins long, thanks x
Thank you! Behringer really skimped on the manual. I guess they wanted guys like you, to show how to do it! And I appreciate it!
Great tutorial! It can be a little complicated to figure this out from the manual but here you make all clear in 2 min. Thanks!
Thanks - I’ve since discovered that my method of deleting an existing pattern is not the correct one, but it still works nonetheless. I’ve been doing it wrong since 1991 :-)
Thanks, very helpful and easy to follow instructions. Made my first acid line since I fell in love in '88 with the 3🙂3
It's a very easy sequencer. Most of the midi generation, that have software that writes chord progressions for them, just arnt prepared to learn how to use the gear properly anymore. Great video pal.
Thanks 👍. Indeed, I think if the 303 / TD3 ‘sequenced’ in the same way that a DAW or hardware sequencer does, the results would often be a bit lame! The ‘magic’ comes from the weird, unpredictable ‘throw a bunch of stuff in’ method and see what comes out!
@@iixorb that right there is acid!
Thank you for this help, without this it is not possible to figure out how the sequencer works, I would say
Incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. As discussed below the magic of the thing is the sequencer; something that you have helped me with immensely.
thanks man. Ive only just got mine today. been reading the manual but was a bit stuck on getting the write pattern to work. Thanks again.
I finally got mine today and I will use your method. This looks fun. I've only had experience with the Rebirth 338 in programming these and Reason's step sequencer. I was able to get some random stuff going on right out of the box that was pretty fun. The sequencer really makes this instrument what it is and I'm finally able to afford one that isn't $2,000! You can also use the sequencer to control a Korg NTS-1, which I will also be doing.
Hope you enjoy it ! The best experiences with these (and the '303) are the completely random ones - where you just throw a bunch of notes, accents and slides together and see what emerges :-) ...... the most frustrating experiences come from trying to program in something specific which you've heard on another song !!!
Saved me from some headache! Thanks a lot!
Great tutorial! Helps explain things nicely. May seem dumb but I did not realize the tone mode would do pitch transitions. I thought it was only accents and note length. This explains why my patterns are all 1/16 notes lol
Now this is what I call ONE FUCKING NICE TUTORIAL, right here
life saver, I was trying to do it one note at a time and that is useless unless you know exactly what notes you are wanting to input.
Lemme jus say youre a god for this THANK UU
Glad it helped. To be honest, it’s been so long since I used my TD3 (or my 303), I’ll need to refer back to this video myself 🤣
you dont have to pess play then clear you can hold clear and then press any of the tracks you want to del :)
Thanks, yes you are correct :-) I do it this way though, so I don't accidentally clear the wrong pattern !!!
Thanks for getting me going !!
This is fantastic, thank you for doing this.
Got me going - thank you.
Up to this point I've thought OG TB-303 had programmed patterns via simple but unhandy step recording (like on Volca Bass), but in reality it was further complicated to 3 separate stages. Now I fully get why it tanked.
nice tut, i did a "lazy" version of this with midi keyboard and midi fx from a daw, keep on
Thanks man :D I got one last week, but it didn't work as easy as the Roland TB-303. Anyways, this will help a LOT
awesome video! thanks so much!
nice❗ acid ☺️wink pattern so gud job‼️
Thanks for this video man, I like the td-3 a lot but I wish they would have reworked the sequencer
Very helpfull. Thanks
Thanks!
Thanks alot gna have a blast now 👍
your our guy
PROBLEM: My pattern buttons don't blink and I can't play any patterns. :( I bought this TD-3 used.
SOLUTION: In order to use the TD-3 on its own you must load up the Behringer Synth Tool and change the clock source to internal.
You can also press the BACK & WRITE/NEXT buttons at the same time, then simply press C (Internal Clock), D (MIDI), E (USB) or F (TRIGGER) to change the clock source :)
@@elijahsomething5677 thanks for this!
@@virus2003 did that work? I had the same issue last night when I was checking out my newly purchased, used TD-3. Thanks! I'm guessing I want to select C (internal clock).
@@brianblaney3072 Yes it worked! 'C' is correct. Elijah offered an on-device solution above if you don't feel like hooking up to a PC
@@elijahsomething5677 thanks. Wondered what was going on with my used TD-3.
Thank you!
Thanks, that's great. Will try it out. Programming with the manual is hard to understand.
what manual
Sven Olson exsctly. Because there’s no user manual haha
@@alexiscabreramusic dis one: media63.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0DTD/TD-3_QSG_WW.pdf
@@pastoelio dis one: media63.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0DTD/TD-3_QSG_WW.pdf
Thank you good Sir! :D
Brilliant!
Thanks
Thank you! Great👍
I am not sure what happed with my patch, I moved it to play once I was completed.
Powered it off and back on again and it’s gone , so you know how that would happen ?
Thanks man!
Thanks that helped LOL
Sadly I’m told by Behringer there is no way to reset to original settings so once you mess with a sequence the original is gone. I will probably pick a couple I’m not thrilled about and use them to make new ones and then clear those to use again.
You might be able to find the original patterns if you do a google search, someone must've saved them :)
I have a question: last night, using the manual, I programmed a couple eight-step patterns - but in both cases, when I went to play mode, it would only play back the first four steps. Anybody else had that issue?
THANK YOUUUUU!!!!
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Thanks programming in seconds😄
Is there a release parameter on the TD-3, it sounds like you release a note it has an organ type release.
m8, my pattern button doesn't even blink and my metronome never comes up... following all the steps here, but it just doesn't work, anyone else having this problem with the newest TD3 shipped Jan/Feb 2020?
ok, that's strange. I wonder if they have changed the o/s since my one was produced? I think mine was from one of the first batches. Its serial number starts 'S1910...' which I think might mean it was assembled in Oct 2019. I am getting another soon - a black one - so I will have a look and see if they have changed something. FYI - the programming method I have shown here works exactly the same on my Roland TB-303. You could also try a better pattern clearing method than I showed here. With the unit stopped, press Clear and the relevant pattern button at the same time. This I believe clears the pattern properly and sets the timing to 16 steps etc (my method shown does clear the notes etc but leaves the timing to whatever was set for the pattern you're overwriting).
did you solve it? you need yo put the sequencer to internal clock in order to create patterns on the machine itself.
@@danielsolomon63 no you don't. mine's in midi sync right now and i just made a new pattern on it. you can't use the tap time feature with external sync though, has to be internal for that.
My metronome blinked but I couldn’t get the steps to work... I tried again and paid more attention. It was fine, I just missed stuff the first time through. The metronome not working could be you aren’t in “write” mode? Just make sure all your knobs are in the same position as in the video.
Hey man! Thank you so much for this amazing tutorial! I encountered a problem: when I'm on pitch mode and I press on 'Accent' or 'Slide' I hear no sound and the lights don't light up like when you press on those buttons. Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong?
Ok nevermind! You need to hold 'Write/Next' while pressing 'Accent' or 'Slide'!!! Then it works :)
Having trouble sending MIDI notes to the TD-3 via an external sequencer. MIDI channels are set, TD-3 in MIDI mode, cleared the pattern, but it's not receiving the notes.
I'm not sure if the TD-3 can actually record a 'string' of MIDI notes from an external source, as it's not like a traditional MIDI sequencer; maybe someone else can comment? Bear in mind though, the 'magic' of the TB-303 (therefore the TD-3 too) comes from what you randomly key into its internal sequencer - and then apply slides, accents and transpositions - just as I attempted to show in this video... The quirkiness of the internal sequencer has just as much of an influence on that '303 sound we all love, as the VCO, Res and Cutoff do... maybe more so, actually. Good luck !
i don't know what i did to my machine but it wont play, all my settings same as yours. i can hear the tones in pitch mode but after i set the steps and try press play i got nothing. wierd thing is when i first got the machine it worked fine. now i'm coming back to it 6 months later i got nothing
I’m wondering if it’s set to expect a MIDI clock input and not set to run off its own clock. I’ll look at mine later and will advise how to set it to run from its own clock.
To set to INT clock: Press BACK and WRITE/NEXT together. They are the buttons on the right hand side. Then press Pattern Button 1 for INT. You might also need to press Pattern Button 7 to set 24PPQ if it’s not already set. Good luck 🤞 👍
I made a quick video yesterday to show how to set it to sync from its INT clock. You should be able to find it in my videos, or the link at the end of this video 👍
What if i want to change a pattern while playing it? Do i have to stop it? Can i do it in real time?
Yes you can - just press the corresponding button for the pattern you want to play next 👍
Does it have' random' function? Just one knob, just randomly changing all parameters?
Only just bought mine so you've probably sold yours in frustration but pressing CLEAR and START/STOP creates 8 random patterns.
@@darrensurrey 8? I remember, it randomly changed only one current pattern
@@Drumsdude123 maybe I'm wrong. I don't know what I'm doing. Replied after half an hour and thought the other patterns were changed? I'll check later.
@@darrensurrey No, it changes only current pattern)
@@Drumsdude123 oh ok that makes more sense I guess!
Thanks 🙏🏾 is this the same that had the trim pots adjusted?
Hi - yes it’s the same TD-3 that had the VR1 trim pot adjusted, so it has a darker, lower tone when I turned the cutoff and env mod knobs at the end.
Yeah where is the metronome coming from? This some weird euro edition? The pattern write does not opperare like this nor does it show this method in the manual and trying this step for step on my own as well, it does not work
Yes it does :-) Watch carefully ;-)
@@iixorb no, it does not.
same here, the metronome never kicks in with my td3
@@TheCALMInstitute ok, that's strange. I wonder if they have changed the o/s since my one was produced? I think mine was from one of the first batches. Its serial number starts 'S1910...' which I think might mean it was assembled in Oct 2019. I am getting another soon - a black one - so I will have a look and see if they have changed something. FYI - the programming method I have shown here works exactly the same on my Roland TB-303. You could also try a better pattern clearing method than I showed here. With the unit stopped, press Clear and the relevant pattern button at the same time. This I believe clears the pattern properly and sets the timing to 16 steps etc (my method shown does clear the notes etc but leaves the timing to whatever was set for the pattern you're overwriting).
Juan D Ramírez it only works when your midi is set to int. In any other clock mode its not working
but can you put 24 note patterns in too?
Hey man, I'm really into acid music and I want to start messing with it as a complete beginner (I'm currently in IT). What hardware and software is needed to run this thing? I have a decent PC, an amplifier and a set of speakers. Are there some guides for this instrument or courses online you can recommend also? I would appreciate your help.
You’ve been hooked! Welcome to spending all your money on synths and drum machines :-)
I’m not sure about courses but I’d recommended joining the “gearspace.com” forum - where you’ll be able to get answers to questions when you’re first starting out. Regarding the Behringer TD3; it’s generally designed to be stand-alone, so you can enjoy it on its own. But if you’re wanting to experience a little more ‘acid’ and ‘techno’ then I’d recommend buying a Behringer RD9 or RD6 drum machine, and connect it to your TD3 via MIDI and have them playing in sync together. Before long, you’ll want to get an RD8, a mixer to join the audio together and then maybe a synth!
As as say, you’d do well to join gearspace.com. Like with every forum, there will be impolite responses but most people there are genuinely helpful. And it’s free :-)
@@iixorb thank you boss!
can i connect it to a computer and record the sound i play?
It doesn’t have a USB Audio interface, but you can connect the audio output into your computer, using an external USB audio interface.
@@iixorb got it! thanks
@@iixorb thank you! And what is a external USB audio interface? Can you recommend one cheap?
@@AlbertoZaccaria I currently use the M-Audio M-Track Duo. But there are probably cheaper ones out there to begin with; your PC / Laptop might already have a built-in audio interface, with an input for recording external audio sources.
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THERE'S apossibility of make only 8 steps....in sequence like the 16?....
Yes
Hi - there is but I haven’t figured out how to do that yet ( I never figured it out on my 303 either). Maybe someone has done a more advanced version indicating this ? I might redo this ‘tutorial’ properly soon ( showing the correct method to clear a pattern and not my ‘not quite’ correct method - although it works :-)
@@iixorb telling you guys how to do it cause it took me literally months to figure it out! and theres alot of 303 snobs out there so heres how..
first hold function press the step button (4 times) you'll get no visual feedback
second: click the time mode button then hit step 4 times
third: press play you'll notice the sequence is only 4 steps
next time hit as many steps as you want but both have to be the same amount
@shawnbennnyc on ig
@@Shawn-ub9ud Haven't tried it yet but thanks !
how many notes can i program it with?
this is the sequencer everyone calls "extremely hard"? seems pretty standard to me (what's demonstrated here anyway) but maybe that's just cuz i've been using trackers since i was 12...
Most keyboard players like myself would love an option where you can play the melody and rhythm in in one shot. It has a little mini keyboard, so why not?
@ewk alt You would absolutely love the MC-202, in that case.
I gave you, your 69th like. Niceeee
I found pattern pitch stuff that sounded like the battlefield heroes theme but lost it is there a undo go back in settings button? Haha
thats dope! I LOVED that game and the music was top notch goofy fun. Damn would have been cool to have heard that
"Could" seems like a l
ot of speculation!?
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My clear button won’t clear the pattern
press clear + the track at the same time when the track is paused , it will erase everything
Fuck that seems complicated lol I'm really gonna have to sit down and spend a long time trying to learn just how to use this when it comes in... is the RD-6 the same?
this is far simpler than programming a pattern step by step. Once you do this a few times it becomes easier and easier.
I want to be able to play the TD-3 like a regular sound module so I can sequence it through cubase. Does any one know if you can and if so how many octaves does it have? I have also been searching for a Midi Controller chart so i can control the knobs via cubase automation. Does anyone one know if this possible and were i can find a chart?
Synthesis - to be honest half of the classic 303 sound is due to the sequencer, you'd be far better sending midi clock from Cubase to play patterns in time. But you will be able to send midi notes from Cubase to the TD3, it's just nowhere near as fun as the TD sequencer. Not sure how many octaves it'll respond to.
You won't find a CC chart for the TD3 as the knobs won't respond- they're not digital on this. Same thing on my TT303 and MB33. Seems like it would be a limitation but it's not - these are so much fun to tweak live.
Left Mono I think the same way BUT, this sequencer lacks of shuffle right? In that case I’d record the sequence from the TD3 to a midi track and then apply shuffle to that midi track to send it back to the TD3.
Alexis Cabrera - that would be an excellent workaround. I quite like recording TT303 midi out into my Digitakt and then sending it to other synths. Not tried shuffle though...
You can't automate the knobs. You can send midi notes to it but that's it.
Connected to elektron and forgot about sequencer. Maybe learn how to use it one day...
It wont start playing at all 😡😡😡
watch this vid sir
..talk! :)
OR, use synth tribe. The software that comes with the TD-3. Keep life easy. All of what you watched is un necessary.
Indeed you can do :-) But is that as much fun as just pumping a bunch of random notes, slides, accents and transpositions into the TD-3 and seeing what you get from that ? ;-)
@@iixorb yes :P both :)
Mostly silence......🤔
Have you seen my other video about setting the sequencer to run from ‘INT’ instead of an external clock? Maybe this is why?
Think we all agree the manual is shite
You call that basic...
I think it’s about as basic as it gets with the TD3 / 303 ;-)
Sum basics down but you had on tap and not deleat a pattern
You are right :-) I didn’t delete the old pattern. I think that clearing the timing and then entering new notes does the same thing. I haven’t read the manual yet (!!). I just did it the same as I’ve always done on my TB-303.
@@iixorb you didnt deleate it no - you can however programe a new sequence strait over the top of it -
Stop, hold clear and pattern number should clear the pattern if i remember correctly
Yes, that’s the way to do it. I might add that method to the start of this video. I think the way I have shown it works too ( clearing the timing and then re-inputting the notes, slides, accents and transpositions that you want).
Thank you!
thanks
Thank You!!