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  • The Newhall shootout, happened on April 5-6, 1970, in Valencia, California. Between two heavily armed criminals and four officers of the California Highway Patrol.
    After only five minutes, the four CHP officers were slain in the deadliest day in California law enforcement history.
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  • @PlainlyDifficult
    @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +38

    Thanks for watching check out me other bits!
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    • @artbk
      @artbk Před rokem +1

      That outro song is sooo pleasant!

    • @donLatitisavanderworken
      @donLatitisavanderworken Před rokem

      Do you realize we drive on the left side of cars and right side of road? This ain't the UK

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Před 10 měsíci

      I personally didn't find speed loaders for my old revolver very useful. Just noting.

  • @Truckngirl
    @Truckngirl Před rokem +725

    A U-turn on the I-5? That right there shows how crazy they were! I swear, John...you bring the best stories! I lived most of my adult life in Los Angeles (Valencia is in LA County) and NEVER heard of this! This is actually more tragic than the North Hollywood Shootout.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Před rokem +79

      It still amazes me how low the casualty count was given the almost unfathomable number of rounds fired during the North Hollywood shootout.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +59

      It is very true!

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart Před rokem +22

      It was the 70s though, remember.

    • @djchaiwallah
      @djchaiwallah Před rokem +33

      Lord have mercy, there was a time when there wasn't a barrier down the middle of I-5?

    • @ludokresh05
      @ludokresh05 Před rokem +8

      Lol, not as crazy as driving from the passenger seat! /s

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Před rokem +97

    As a car guy John that loves lowered vehicles I love that you illustrated the vehicles all so low.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +19

      Thank you!

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem +4

      Neighbor has a cherry old Lemans. All original, low miles & sweet.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před rokem +3

      @@katiekane5247 I once owned a 1966 Ventura.
      Ventura was a 'full size' entry then, essentially a Bonneville with shorter trunk ('boot').

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ Před rokem +2

      Those were kinda 'low' back then too! We had a '72 Dodge Polara station wagon back when I was a kid - I turned 15 and could drive with a parent present after taking the driver's test. It was a behemoth of a car ...400 CID engine (upsized from the 383 Chrysler used to offer.)

    • @kakarikiIck
      @kakarikiIck Před rokem +2

      That was going to be a question of mine to John. If he does all of the illustrations himself, as the cars are minimalistic and cool looking.

  • @lovelessissimo
    @lovelessissimo Před rokem +430

    I'm a CHP officer and worked in the Newhall office. This incident had incredible and long lasting ramifications.

    • @discoj7112
      @discoj7112 Před rokem +8

      Would you mind elaborating?

    • @EneTheGene
      @EneTheGene Před rokem +39

      @@discoj7112 Officers are more careful and are better armed, I would assume. Traffic stops are (potentially) really dangerous to this day.

    • @confusedbadger6275
      @confusedbadger6275 Před rokem +12

      Iiirc isn't traffic stops the most dangerous part of a cops job ?
      Lol, in the UK I would presume the most boring

    • @The_Modeling_Underdog
      @The_Modeling_Underdog Před rokem +29

      @@confusedbadger6275 Domestic viol*nce calls. At least that's what Donut Operator says. They can end up real' bad.

    • @EFFEZE
      @EFFEZE Před rokem +1

      Pussio

  • @TechInspected
    @TechInspected Před rokem +401

    Imagine if the idiot had just been patient and didn't make an illegal u-turn.

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Před rokem +76

      Or just kept going after the other guy yelled at him.

    • @jtgd
      @jtgd Před rokem +64

      He’d probably be alive in prison due to their likely failed bank robbery

    • @GreebleClown
      @GreebleClown Před rokem +75

      Or hadn’t pulled out his freaking gun when it was a near miss. Like, dude, just be polite, apologize, deescalate, and go your separate ways so you get to the freaking robbery! If the other guy is angry and wants to know why the hell you pulled that move, just lie and say you’re panicking and in a hurry because you’re trying to get to your wife who is in labor or something, most people will let you go after that and you’re a crook so lying shouldn’t be a big deal.
      No wonder they kept getting caught before this, he’s a hotheaded moron.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +41

      It does baffle

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- Před rokem +28

      Criminals are stupid. If they weren't stupid, they wouldn't be criminals.

  • @nowinter7355
    @nowinter7355 Před rokem +542

    "His story was about as believable as the use of a chocolate tea-pot." Never heard that particular idiom, and loved it. As always your narration is of high quality and rather entertaining, too.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +40

      Thank you

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 Před rokem +3

      Wtf is that suppose to mean? A teapot made out of chocolate? A teapot with chocolate in it as a substitute for water in the tea brewing process? Something entirely different?

    • @Wolfgang8-Y
      @Wolfgang8-Y Před rokem +57

      ​@@bradsanders407 A teapot made out of chocolate. Specifically, a teapot that would obviously melt as soon as you poured hot water in it, a very unrealistic and therefore unbelievable thing.

    • @neonjaystones1992
      @neonjaystones1992 Před rokem +23

      @@bradsanders407it’s a spin on the idiom ‘about as useful as a chocolate teapot’ ie not very useful, since as someone below said, it would melt as soon as the water was added.

    • @nowinter7355
      @nowinter7355 Před rokem +7

      @@bradsanders407 A teapot out of chocolate would melt. Thus it is hard to believe. It is an idiom, a colloquial metaphor, so no need to overthink it.

  • @geeknirvana
    @geeknirvana Před rokem +47

    "Every story needs its MADLAD"
    Things just got interesting ;)

  • @LimitBeamng
    @LimitBeamng Před rokem +254

    You should write about the Motel 6 shooting spree in Sacramento. Several officers dead, three citizens shot, and multiple stolen cars. It was a Bonnie and Clyde duo, that drove all the way from New Mexico. One of the two involved officers wrote a book about it. "Facing Evil"

    • @LimitBeamng
      @LimitBeamng Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/5PzV12-2sbk/video.html - News Story about it

    • @globalgeode4363
      @globalgeode4363 Před rokem +16

      there's so many he could do from around the valley/california, especially from around the 70's and 80's constant bank robberies.

    • @LifeVirus1289
      @LifeVirus1289 Před rokem +3

      Damn feel bad for those 3 citizens

    • @LimitBeamng
      @LimitBeamng Před rokem +1

      @@LifeVirus1289 One got shot in the eye...

    • @dawnmazarati3301
      @dawnmazarati3301 Před rokem +1

      Sacramento...SO proud to have been raised and have lived here all me life. 🤢 Gonna search this story, so, thank you for that.

  • @user-fh2fm7vr4m
    @user-fh2fm7vr4m Před rokem +254

    As always the quality of your videos is ever-increasing. Thank you for making them, and thank you for licensing them CC, it helps with sharing inside of the US public school system.

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +19

      Thank you!

    • @13DreamRiders
      @13DreamRiders Před rokem +10

      Without CC I'd be screwed! Yes I can hear but I'm half deaf in my right ear, and drs won't listen to me when I tell them what they need to do to check my hearing properly for that ear 🙄, but being half deaf and having immense trouble differentiating words and even syllables sometimes, my mom said "finally beat the damn game" earlier but what I heard from 6 ft away was "bloody raining pirate child" 🤦😅🤣, I'd be completely helpless without my CC. It's either TV so loud everybody goes deaf or stick to "watching" and "listening" to movies I've seen over 500 times because I know them word for word off by heart 😅🤣🤣

    • @insanimal2
      @insanimal2 Před rokem +19

      @@13DreamRiders I think the original comment was about the "Creative Commons" licensing, not the "Closed Captions", but both are great things to have!

    • @Inferryu
      @Inferryu Před rokem

      @@insanimal2 No to offend, but the irony is quite amusing.

    • @13DreamRiders
      @13DreamRiders Před rokem +4

      🤦 I've never even heard of Creative Commons. I'm part of the small generation between Gen X'ers and Millennials called Xennials. I don't do technology things very well 😅. @Inferry I don't even know what would be offensive to what you said 😂🤣

  • @65charliemopic
    @65charliemopic Před rokem +163

    I was friends with one of the CHP officers involved in this incident. It had a major impact on him and changed his life forever. He left the CHP not long afterwards.

    • @chiapets2594
      @chiapets2594 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Suuuure

    • @kuroneko334
      @kuroneko334 Před 4 měsíci

      How old are you? 70+ then?

    • @xythrr
      @xythrr Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@chiapets2594
      Look at their profile
      I can easily believe it

  • @andymcgowan9819
    @andymcgowan9819 Před rokem +64

    There are three famous modern auto involved shootouts with police (in the USA) where police fared poorly. The Newhall shooting, the Medina, North Dakota shootout with US marshals, and the 1986 Miami shootout. Newhall probably being the second most famous. It is still studied today and I would beg to say that it’s legacy rating should be over 7.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Před rokem +15

      I worked with a lot of Chicagoland cops in the late 80s. Newhall was still a training subject, and it was still talked about by LEOs.
      It was also often cited as a reason to equip all LEOs with decent ballistic armor as well as more effective and sustainable firearms. Many departments were still resisting semi-auto pistols; Bewhall, Norco, and Miami were used as examples of why higher capacity and easily reloadable weapons were needed. (Illinois State Police issued S&W Model 39s starting in 1967 and found them to be better than revolvers.)
      I'd give it a legacy of 8 or 9 for the impact it had. You rarely see LEOs with revolvers anymore, and cops still talk about it as a cautionary tale.

    • @lovelessissimo
      @lovelessissimo Před rokem +11

      This completely changed police tactics and range training across the country forever for all police departments.

    • @alun7006
      @alun7006 Před rokem +5

      Paul Harrell has done a video on the subject IIRC - a pivotal moment in police training and tactics.

    • @lovelessissimo
      @lovelessissimo Před rokem +2

      @AlunB the video he did was excellent.

    • @stevenvassalli2408
      @stevenvassalli2408 Před rokem +3

      I'll have to look up the Newhall incident. I don't think I've ever head of it. There was a shootout against the Black Panther party in the late '60's or early '70's. Also the huge shootout in LA against the SLA, the group that kidnapped (?) Patty Hearst.
      Here in Wichita we had a sniper on top of the 29 story Holiday Inn in 1976. 3 people die & 4 injured.
      In 1985 we had a middle school shooting. A 14 yr old entered Goddard, Ks middle school & killed 3 at the time of the shooting & injured 2-4 others.(I don't remember how many were injured) 2 of the injured died yrs before their time because of the injuries suffered. I'd graduated from this high school in '79. Goddard sits 6 miles west of Wichita. Small city with big time crime. Then we also had the dumbass BTK from '74-2005.

  • @inappropriatejohnson
    @inappropriatejohnson Před rokem +32

    1970? Those were crazy times.

    • @scowler7200
      @scowler7200 Před rokem +6

      The craziest thing about this case is that every single man was ready to ROCK-N'-ROLL!!!

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart Před rokem +6

      No infrared sights on Helis that time. Makes it harder to track people. Probably not even SWAT teams.

    • @zimbobweyz6977
      @zimbobweyz6977 Před rokem

      @crassgop I e

    • @zimbobweyz6977
      @zimbobweyz6977 Před rokem

      @crassgop we 13:30

    • @Bft149
      @Bft149 Před rokem +6

      Yeah, from the 70s to the 80s, it was the craziest time for serial killers and criminals.
      -Hitchhiking was common.
      -No or few security cameras.
      -DNA evidence was not a thing yet.
      -PTSD was not a diagnosable illness, along with a handful of mental illnesses. So some were freed after showing good behavior.
      -Child kidnapping was happening because there was less adult supervision than today. An example is the disturbing case of Sylvia Likens.
      -Police were under budget and under equiped, especially in smaller towns compared to today.
      It was a really crazy time back then. It's hard to imagine more than half these people getting away now with the amount of tech there is.

  • @zenarcade6551
    @zenarcade6551 Před rokem +19

    I love how you can hear John lean over and briefly pause during each outro to describe the weather outside.

    • @feliformia7048
      @feliformia7048 Před rokem +1

      Literally my favorite part of every video. It’s so cute

  • @shermangriffin4668
    @shermangriffin4668 Před rokem +28

    As a retired Police Officer, I can also verify this led to another change. This incident also forced the idea of semiautomatic pistols being carried.

    • @RemingtonArmy-
      @RemingtonArmy- Před rokem +8

      I began my 30-year CHP career in 1980, but we didn't switch over to the S&W 4006 (40 S&W) until the mid-90's. A few changes that occurred more immediately within the CHP were the reversal of the policy that required the hat to be worn any time an officer was out of the vehicle, the elimination of the shotgun 'seal' that necessitated the writing of a justification memo if a round were racked into the chamber, the issuance of Departmentally owned revolvers and body armor, the adoption of speed-loaders, the adoption of better speed-loaders, the mandated use of the new .38 Spl. 110-grain +P+ controlled-expansion hollow point duty ammo during training and qualification (as opposed to the cheaper wad cutters previously used in training), changes in radio procedures, and changes in tactical procedures for high-risk and felony stops, among other modernizations. This event played a major role in our Academy education at the time and I'd like to think it had a profound impact on officers nationwide; not just on my Department. Carry on, sir.

    • @randomfaca
      @randomfaca Před rokem +3

      @@RemingtonArmy- what's the deal with the hat rule?

  • @williamtobin7282
    @williamtobin7282 Před rokem +3

    Loved when the narrator said of the marine " ill have some of that" and engaged in a gun fight...priceless

  • @eriknervik9003
    @eriknervik9003 Před rokem +16

    There’s one minor error here, Schwartz didn’t fire at David with a Lee Enfield rifle, he had an Enfield No.2 revolver. This was a common revolver used by British and Canadian forces in WW2 and many of them were floating around the US at this time as cheaper alternatives to larger American revolvers. The No.2 was chambered for .38 S&W (not to be confused with .38 special, that cartridge the criminals had in their revolvers) 38 S&W is actually a very weak round and so when Schwartz fired and hit Davis it didn’t stop him and that’s how Davis was able to take his revolver from him and beat him with it

  • @christopherritschel4115
    @christopherritschel4115 Před rokem +11

    I am a CNA who works in a memory care unit and last night I had my residence watched The Italian Job with me and I absolutely loved it. I find it so funny that you mention it now in this video lol

  • @terencehill2320
    @terencehill2320 Před rokem +396

    What's up with California and 1970 having some messed up events

    • @vincentmoore7714
      @vincentmoore7714 Před rokem +137

      Probably all the acid and coke

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Před rokem +48

      ​@@vincentmoore7714 it's definitely the coke

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem +162

      Cocaine is a hell of a drug

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 Před rokem +54

      It beats us marrying our family members or our livestock like many red states. You can still marry an animal in thirteen red states. All supported our last president. Have a nice day.

    • @juliustheillustrious7727
      @juliustheillustrious7727 Před rokem +68

      @@rodgerrodger1839 Hey, don't take it too personally, ok?🤣

  • @adamjhuber
    @adamjhuber Před rokem +62

    John, thank you for this one. A great and sad story. I drive by this area about once a week and always say a prayer for the fallen officers.
    You should do one on the Norco (California) bank robbery shootout.

  • @SaintBuick
    @SaintBuick Před rokem +18

    Quick correction, at 5:00 you refer to the car as a parola but it's a Polara. Great work on this story.

    • @jkunz27
      @jkunz27 Před rokem +2

      Came here to say this.

  • @Susie_Floozie
    @Susie_Floozie Před rokem +26

    Whoa, you've had to develop new techniques for telling these action stories, and I appreciate these touches--like the new figures you've made for cops and hands holding weapons, and movements like the gun incrementally appearing at 4:48 and the figure flexing at 5:38. Your shorthand for bullet impacts is inspired and simple. I totally swallowed the Grand Prix going all Minecraft in the rear shot--the flexing figure snared my attention and I didn't notice the car until I went back to check the time. So, it's all working great.

    • @NickyBlue99
      @NickyBlue99 Před rokem +3

      I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic....

    • @Susie_Floozie
      @Susie_Floozie Před rokem +2

      @@NickyBlue99 I'm sincere. I understand his process and want to give him props.

  • @Mohawks_and_Tomahawks
    @Mohawks_and_Tomahawks Před rokem +114

    The Death Penalty being "unconstitutional" for murderers caught in the act is tragically ironic.

    • @stephencannon3140
      @stephencannon3140 Před rokem +15

      That’s California for you!!

    • @markfrost2707
      @markfrost2707 Před rokem

      @@stephencannon3140 That was a SUPREME COURT RULING NOT a California ruling or court, making the death penalty unconstitutional the way it was being implemented. California fixed what the supreme court found objectionable in a matter of months but all those across the nation who were taken off death row after the SCOTUS initial ruling could not, under our system, then be put back onto it. Have you ever thought about KNOWING about something BEFORE you speak up or form an opinion. California is a hugely successful state that is extremely beautiful and has the 5th biggest GDP in the world. Give up the FOX "news" and get out there

    • @MrKurtykurt
      @MrKurtykurt Před rokem +10

      Actually, the best example of irony would be killing a person to prove to them that killing people is wrong. Notice how he referred to suicide as “the easy way out,” for the other guy? At least this guy had to rot in a cell for awhile.

    • @fajile5109
      @fajile5109 Před rokem +1

      Well if i would kill to protect someones life i dont see why i wouldnt kill to get justice for their murder. In my mind im just defending someone.

    • @MrKurtykurt
      @MrKurtykurt Před rokem +4

      @@fajile5109 my comment was less of a criticism on the death penalty than it was on the misuse and misunderstanding of “irony.” There’s nothing ironic about modern day justice system of a 1st world country not fully embracing the “eye for an eye” philosophy of justice. However, my criticism of your comment is killing in self defense and the death penalty are different for obvious reasons

  • @bec7080
    @bec7080 Před rokem +12

    Me, not a criminal: if I going to commit a large crime I would not draw a large scene to myself.
    These guys: let's do everything we can to draw attention

  • @Sibyle79
    @Sibyle79 Před rokem +8

    Holy cow, very a Bonnie and Clyde esque.
    I enjoyed the additional melon footage.

  • @souleaterevans4589
    @souleaterevans4589 Před rokem +9

    I lived in that area for most of my life, up until 2019. No one ever mentioned that there had been a massacre a stone's throw away from where my family lived and went to school. This was a wild video for me, to say the least

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no Před rokem +16

    Always a fascinating video, excellent break down of events.

  • @johnbee7729
    @johnbee7729 Před rokem +17

    Thanks for this. Sadly it was incidents such as this that caused many members of the forces to fire when things go wrong.

  • @rosekay5031
    @rosekay5031 Před rokem +38

    Your story telling is amazing. I wasn't sure I would like topics outside of industrial (& nuclear) incidents, but you tell these so well, it's very much appreciated

  • @seymoarsalvage
    @seymoarsalvage Před rokem +3

    Oi, John! That steering wheel on the wrong side mate! lol!!

  • @koffeekage
    @koffeekage Před rokem +15

    if criminal scumbags would merely obey common traffic laws they would be more successful. if youre planning a bank heist, buckle your seatbelt, travel the speed limit, come to a complete stop before traveling past a Stop Sign.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem +7

      Same with folks moving contraband. No tag, taillights out,, busted windshield doesn't improve your chances of success.

    • @koffeekage
      @koffeekage Před rokem +6

      @@katiekane5247 like, get an enterprise or something, theyll even pick you up.

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell Před rokem +6

      People who lack the patience and try for the "get rich quick" scheme probably don't have the patience for obeying traffic laws.

  • @walterlevesque7602
    @walterlevesque7602 Před rokem +6

    Sir I just cannot say enough about your channel. I'm the 1st time person to say anything. I guess I'm from across the pond in the USA and yes you are absolutely astounding your technique and just the amount of time and effort. You put in these videos in the information put forth is astounding. May it always be Sunny in your corner of the UK.❤

  • @kittikat4124
    @kittikat4124 Před rokem +5

    I've seen videos on this story a bunch of times, but I gotta watch the plainly difficult one!

  • @klockwerked1673
    @klockwerked1673 Před rokem +3

    Yay!!!! More crime content. Thanks Plainly ❤

  • @LadyCatFelineTheSeventh
    @LadyCatFelineTheSeventh Před rokem +8

    I'd probably give it a 10 considering how the changes this incident brought about saved a lot of lives since then.

  • @DeviilReaper
    @DeviilReaper Před rokem +11

    I love watching your videos, but the shooting events had so many characters I was confused as to who did what.... I suggest maybe having some tags on the animated characters with their initials & possibly position in the case of police/military

  • @Tomacawc
    @Tomacawc Před rokem

    Loving the true crime videos you’ve been posting !!

  • @Invisibleman7
    @Invisibleman7 Před rokem +2

    Really enjoyed this! Thanks John I’m a new subscriber love this channel and your humour. Dave from County Durham

  • @lyonsson6480
    @lyonsson6480 Před rokem +8

    My uncle was a CHP at that time, though in a different area. He says they were given the option to wear a vest but they were very heavy and hot, and you had to commit. This meant that if you decided to wear one, you ALWAYS wore one. Few wanted this requirement, so they just didn’t. I believe modern ones are easier to wear.

  • @MoistJas
    @MoistJas Před rokem

    Thanks for the consistantly high quality videos over the years John. 1mill subs soon boiiii

  • @Greenwitch69
    @Greenwitch69 Před rokem

    I always learning of new cases like this. Thank you

  • @FUSIONJAZZMAN420
    @FUSIONJAZZMAN420 Před rokem +29

    Super exciting seeing you cover events that happened in my old city! Santa Clarita/Newhall don't get talked about too much. You should keep the theme going and cover the multiple deaths that happened at Magic Mountain in the same city! I used to work there and could introduce you to some people who were actually there when they happened.

    • @zantar100
      @zantar100 Před rokem

      Hart?

    • @davidromashko3815
      @davidromashko3815 Před rokem

      Saugus CA is there too

    • @themostdiabolicalhater5986
      @themostdiabolicalhater5986 Před rokem +1

      What a weird narcissistic thing to expect a channel to make videos about things just because they happened in the city you live in
      You’re not the main character dude

    • @FUSIONJAZZMAN420
      @FUSIONJAZZMAN420 Před rokem +2

      @@themostdiabolicalhater5986 lol

    • @joeambly6807
      @joeambly6807 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@themostdiabolicalhater5986garbage troll but nice try

  • @asn413
    @asn413 Před rokem +12

    the patrol cars, late 60s dodge monacos, are still much lauded by law enforcement agents and historians to this day. they actually WERE that good:) engines and cooling systems that could take long pursuits that would frequently long outlast the bad guy. they were roomy, had huge trunks, the brilliant chrysler torsion bar suspension, cop motor, cop shocks, this IS about as close to a real life Bluesmobile as you're gonna get.

    • @v8dodge69
      @v8dodge69 Před rokem +1

      Dodge Polara was the utility model used for cabs and police fleets until 1973. The Monaco was the more luxurious version, marketed for normal, private individual sales. But yes, the 69 Polara was very highly regarded by the cops who drove them.

    • @DrOlds7298
      @DrOlds7298 Před rokem +3

      @@v8dodge69 150+ right off the assembly line,and they 'always did just a little more tuning' to them before they went into service. In my younger days I had a '71 Plymouth Fury I (Plymouth's version of the same car more or less?) that was an Ex-Trooper Car,440/375 horse,full 'AHB Pursuit Package' (What the Police Option was called) and it would EASILY peg out the 140 mp/h 'Certified' speedometer!!!

  • @davesworkshop2714
    @davesworkshop2714 Před rokem

    Another great video John! Thanks!

  • @smallsleepyrascalcat
    @smallsleepyrascalcat Před rokem +11

    Great video as always. Worth to watch a second time :)

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 Před rokem +4

    Those cop cars look _so_ fkn cool! Love 70/80s era American cars - absolutely iconic lines ❤

  • @barryallenflash1
    @barryallenflash1 Před rokem +4

    Thanks John for making and sharing this one! Oddly enough, I've never heard this one before. Just when I thought I'd heard ALL the ones from CA, you go and throw this one in there! I'm not from CA, just like the stories from CHP.

  • @justavillain
    @justavillain Před rokem +3

    I really like the true crime series! Keep it going!!

  • @BenjaminStewart6
    @BenjaminStewart6 Před rokem +3

    Great video as always

  • @maxhill7065
    @maxhill7065 Před rokem +7

    I was instantly worried about Kness being shot by the new police officers arriving as backup, thankfully not

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem +2

      Would definitely happen today.

    • @samarmstrong6569
      @samarmstrong6569 Před rokem +1

      @@katiekane5247wrong on that, there was just a shooting out of I think Oregon. Stop making brainless assumptions.

  • @cercaz
    @cercaz Před rokem +6

    If you're committed to crime, try to limit them to one at a time

  • @carlmanvers5009
    @carlmanvers5009 Před rokem

    Thanks John. Good work here. Well done sir.

  • @plainbrownwrapper9688
    @plainbrownwrapper9688 Před rokem +2

    Thank you John for covering this incident, you always do a great job. This incident changed how high risk stops are done and standardized training.
    Also good job on the Polara drawing. I was happy you sketched out an actual Polara.

    • @DrOlds7298
      @DrOlds7298 Před rokem

      He did a very good job on drawing both the '69 Polara and the '64 Grand Prix.

    • @transtubular
      @transtubular Před rokem

      Too bad he couldn't say Polara and instead calls it a Parola.

  • @burtony3
    @burtony3 Před rokem +4

    I liked the sketch of the Pontiac driver as right hand drive. Lets us know the origin of the video for sure.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před rokem +2

      As 'Yo Mama' becomes _"Ur Mum"_ at 03:54 .

  • @Highice007
    @Highice007 Před rokem +3

    As someone who has attempted suicide, I can say, it's not easy to phyce yourself up to do that. Humanity has the flaw of self preservation. A terrible affliction.

  • @PPSH-Riley
    @PPSH-Riley Před rokem

    Man i absolutely love your channel. Im always amazed at what i dont know about.

  • @p.wynnmarkstall1737
    @p.wynnmarkstall1737 Před rokem +1

    Great work as always! Enjoy that sun.

  • @patriciam4512
    @patriciam4512 Před rokem +4

    When I attended the Police Academy in the mid 80's, the senior firearms trainer (who was also the RangeMaster) opened that block of training by discussing the Newhall incident. We were trained for the street, not the range. No picking up spent brass till the end of the day, no dumping brss into a hand and then the pocket. No "Holster an unloaded weapon", weapons were to be reloaded at all times. Point blank draw and shoot, 3 seconds to draw and fire two rounds. We were taught barricade shooting, reloading while moving, weak hand shooting (including reloading with the weak hand, NOT easy with a revolver.. Because the Academy was staffed by our department the training continued after graduation with our regular service weapons. We ran combat courses as well as the standard qualification course, even steel plate for fun. Officer survival was a frequent subject for in-service training sessions. Never had to use it but I was glad I was properly trained so I had a much better chance of surviving a gunfight than those poor guys did. I was grateful. My family was happy to have me home after every shift as well.

    • @flguy6807
      @flguy6807 Před 11 měsíci

      I attended a police academy for a large city in Texas in 1986. We studied this shooting in detail. Still remember seeing the dead officers' side by side in the morgue. Retired as a Sgt in 2012.

  • @Airborne80
    @Airborne80 Před rokem +3

    Happend a mile from my old home. Im now a retired LAPD Officer and this case changed a lot of practices in law enforcement. The main one being....officers were no longer allowed to put brass in their pockets when at the range. These officers had spent brass in their pockets proving that you fight like you train. You operate in auto pilot.

    • @Ed_SS190
      @Ed_SS190 Před rokem +1

      That is a myth. No officers were found with brass in their pockets in the Newhall shooting

    • @flguy6807
      @flguy6807 Před 11 měsíci

      We studied this incident in the academy. Our Chief at the time (1986) was retired LAPD.

  • @mauricedavis2160
    @mauricedavis2160 Před rokem

    Another excellent episode John, keep up the great work, I'll be watching 👀👍👻

  • @AcydDrop
    @AcydDrop Před rokem +1

    I love your channel! I've been following your content for a long time, so thanks for your effort it's really appreciated! You should do an episode on the North Hollywood shootout. That has to be one of the craziest bank robberies ever (or at least that I know about). It's basically straight out of a McG movie or something. Not to sound like I was cheering for the bad guys, but they had basically cowed the entirety of the Los Angles PD and could have gotten away (according to interviews). The whole thing was mad and makes a truly OTT tale.

  • @briantaylor9285
    @briantaylor9285 Před rokem +6

    Today, they literally use this as a teachable moment.

  • @GodDamnitTwitch
    @GodDamnitTwitch Před rokem +3

    nice to hear it's finally sunny over there for ya meanwhile it's a nice warm 41-42° C here in the California desert. stay safe man!

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute Před rokem +1

      Damn. It's 7 C and raining, here on the north shore of Lake Ontario. But to be fair, it's usually chilly and raining/snowing here, except for 3 months of swampy heat and humidity every summer. Gotta love those Great Lakes.

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell Před rokem

      Very British weather this morning here in SoCal (Inland Empire). About 11c (53°) and wet!

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Před rokem

      Been unseasonably wet and cool in NY State too, guess that's most of NA for now

  • @drink__more__water
    @drink__more__water Před rokem

    Well done as always!

  • @bth120
    @bth120 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for keeping up to speed on the weather!!

  • @jastermereel6949
    @jastermereel6949 Před rokem +6

    Kness is a damn mad lad! You don’t screw with the armed forces lol dude just happened to be passing by

  • @qwertyquiche
    @qwertyquiche Před rokem +7

    Yay a new episode!

  • @IndyColt92
    @IndyColt92 Před rokem

    Keep up the good work. Love your videos. Watch every single one.

  • @antoniobranch
    @antoniobranch Před rokem +2

    Thanks! Great documentary.

  • @orange25i
    @orange25i Před rokem +4

    Great as always! Crazy shoot out!

    • @PlainlyDifficult
      @PlainlyDifficult  Před rokem

      Thank you

    • @glenrice6880
      @glenrice6880 Před rokem

      @@PlainlyDifficult But the brutal ending... seriously, what did the melon do to deserve that?!?
      Thank you for the great videos! Even though the subjects are dark, they are enjoyable to watch.

  • @Tackleberry117
    @Tackleberry117 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for not perpetuating the brass in the pocket myth

  • @jeffsilverman6104
    @jeffsilverman6104 Před rokem +2

    Holy shit, I remember this. I grew up in the Valley ten minutes away, and my dad was LAPD out of West Valley Division. This was huge news at the time especially within the law enforcement community.

  • @THEpaulyBOY44
    @THEpaulyBOY44 Před rokem +2

    Haven’t been watching you on CZcams for a while but bloody he’ll mate you have earned your subscribers man 😂 great job 👏 road to a million now yes ?

  • @ET-Gamer
    @ET-Gamer Před rokem +4

    I live in the area (Santa Clarita) and I remember my dad telling me about this incident a few years before he passed, how it was one of the reasons the police would move away from revolvers as service firearms. He would have been about 14 years old when this happened and it was in the papers and a very big deal in the community.

  • @kirtknierim3687
    @kirtknierim3687 Před rokem +5

    Former Marine? Never. Once a Marine, always a Marine.

  • @tyrapp2202
    @tyrapp2202 Před rokem +1

    Your true crime videos are my favorite.

  • @willroesler6727
    @willroesler6727 Před rokem +2

    Thank you so much for this video I loved the story

  • @ChillsAndThrills8
    @ChillsAndThrills8 Před rokem +3

    Great work..

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 Před rokem +7

    This incident is covered extensively from a tactical standpoint in the book “The Deadly Routine”, by Jack Morris. Chapter 10, titled The Four Highway Patrolman. It was practically required reading in the academy way back, along with “The Tactical Edge”. The book also covers 8 other police shooting incidents. I’m going to go back and re-read my copy, which is quite old (1980’s). I’ll have a comment if you’ve got it wrong. The book also has several diagrams of the movements of the officers and suspects and other aspects of the incident. I don’t know if it’s still available anywhere, probably Ama if anywhere.

  • @philipmurphy2
    @philipmurphy2 Před rokem

    This is such a interesting story, One of the true values of CZcams.

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Před 11 měsíci

    Missed this one. Was a year old. So I guess that's why. Great work as usual !!! 🧡🙏🏻

  • @PunksloveTrumpys
    @PunksloveTrumpys Před rokem +13

    5:01 - Although "Dodge Paroler" would be an appropriate name for a purpose-built Police car, the model is actually called a Dodge Polara.
    Thanks for including detailed descriptions/drawings of the vehicles involved in these videos, as a lifetime car fanatic I certainly appreciate it!

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ Před rokem

      Roger that. Parents had a gold color 1972 Dodge Polara station wagon when I was a kid ...used it to tow a trailer too. Had the 400 CID V-8, that engine being an upgrade from the venerable 383 Chrysler built for years ...

    • @randydewees7338
      @randydewees7338 Před rokem

      Thanks, I played that bit a couple times, keep hearing "Dodge Corolla". I was wondering if it was "Dodge Coronet", which I don't remember being a cruiser model.

    • @v8dodge69
      @v8dodge69 Před rokem

      Agreed - I have a 69 Dodge Monaco and I enjoyed seeing the recognisable illustrations of the near-identical Polara. Some effort has gone into the details.

    • @DrOlds7298
      @DrOlds7298 Před rokem

      @@randydewees7338 They also did make a Police Package off of the Coronet as well.

  • @vr6swp
    @vr6swp Před rokem +4

    I'm not sure if I remember this from when it happened, or from people telling and re-telling the story. I do know that it was still on the news in the late 70's.

  • @foxnoodles2458
    @foxnoodles2458 Před rokem

    Fantastic video!

  • @kimberlypatton205
    @kimberlypatton205 Před rokem +1

    What a great channel! Love your style! They knew how pick some great guns though…

  • @jesterflight8593
    @jesterflight8593 Před rokem +4

    I heard this story at my state police academy in 1983, we didn’t have portables, vests, however we had 870 Remington shotguns mounted on the passenger’s side. We were issued S&W 686 357 with hollow points & 12 loop bandalero, thus we only had 18 rounds, however we were trained to fire 2 and load 2 from our gun-belt. 😢

    • @desdicadoric
      @desdicadoric Před 11 měsíci

      18 rounds total? Wow

    • @jesterflight8593
      @jesterflight8593 Před 11 měsíci

      @@desdicadoric
      Box of 357 H/P in glove box. 870 had 3 slugs & 4 Triple Odd, No A-4s. My backup was a Colt Agent 38 special six round snub nose in my issued Justin mounted patrol boot no ankle holster merely thick socks. I used it only twice in 38 years.

  • @whydoyougottahavthis
    @whydoyougottahavthis Před rokem +3

    As you're not a revolver user yourself probably you missed a small but critical point that you've also got to extract the damn shells and it's not easy at 200bpm

  • @CornvilleConsigliere
    @CornvilleConsigliere Před rokem

    This just popped up in my que and i watched. Great job. I subbed. I think you might be on ti something saying they got the idea from the Italian Job as it came out less than a year before. Thanks for the content.✌️💪♥️

  • @byronharano2391
    @byronharano2391 Před rokem

    Well put together video

  • @MrDowdy11753
    @MrDowdy11753 Před rokem +3

    This reminds me of some of Paul Harrell's older videos.
    He mentioned this on his Miami shootout video.

  • @sooploopz
    @sooploopz Před rokem +26

    It's crazy how fast you can be brought to reality when you're listening to true crime stuff, and one of the cases ends up being in your hometown. Nowadays, SCV is kinda known for being an uneventful place-nothing really happens here. Never knew this happened

    • @ET-Gamer
      @ET-Gamer Před rokem +1

      I kinda gotta disagree with the point of not much happening in Santa Clarita. I’ve lived in Valencia my whole life and just a few years ago we had the school shooting at the highschool I went to in Saugus. Just a couple weeks ago we had a barricaded suspect in canyon country. Back in January of this year an officer shot and killed an unarmed homeless person at the Valencia mall. There’s a lot of smaller incidents that happen daily too. Idk I just feel like more bad stuff happens around here nowadays then when I was growing up. Even then when I was around 10 I remember a police helicopter flying over my house at night with the spotlight and speakers on saying “come out with your hands up” because there was a barricaded armed suspect across Bouquet Canyon Rd in the other neighborhood. There was another time when a guy tried to rob a store in Bouquet Plaza at night and he cut his hand and was running from the police through my streets backyards. He left bloody hand prints on my tree fort in the backyard of my dads house.

    • @sooploopz
      @sooploopz Před rokem

      @@ET-Gamer You're absolutely right. I think I was going off of the amount of incidents I've experienced growing up vs now. Maybe it's always been like this, and we just haven't noticed until we got older.

  • @Caboosejaja
    @Caboosejaja Před 21 dnem

    I love your content! Im recovering from a knee surgery right now and these videos are a great way to spend my time bed ridden :)

  • @jamesproffitt9641
    @jamesproffitt9641 Před rokem

    Love your videos bro

  • @Ciborium
    @Ciborium Před rokem +4

    I appreciate you had the driver on the British side of the vehicle, even though it takes place in California.

  • @sqike001ton
    @sqike001ton Před rokem +5

    And people wonder why 30 round mags in carbines are so important everyone ran out of ammo in this story and cops died because of it

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell Před rokem

      All fun and games when the bad guys walk into a school with a 30 round mag.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Před rokem +1

      ​@@JoshuaTootellwhen no one's shooting back/ you're basically at target practice, 3 10-round mags are pretty much just as bad.
      I.e. that's not a shootout where every millisecond counts.

  • @Frank-vr9pw
    @Frank-vr9pw Před 10 měsíci +2

    Those Officers did not die in vain. Their sacrifice has undoubtedly saved hundreds of police officers lives as a result of this tragic incident. May they rest in peace.

  • @speedracer3104
    @speedracer3104 Před rokem +2

    I remember this, me and my dad got pulled over by Frago couple of days b4. Next thing they're on the front page of the signal newspaper.

  • @mattkaustickomments
    @mattkaustickomments Před rokem +3

    4:57 I had to rewind. The cops were in a 1969 Dodge POLARA, not a “Parola”. 😅. Although that would be an ironic name if that was the case.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Před rokem +1

      That would be a great name for a GTA police car that's actually really bad as a pursuit vehicle. Like if they did the NYPD Prius or something lol

    • @mattkaustickomments
      @mattkaustickomments Před rokem +1

      @@nthgth Exactly. Only for Parole Officers, meter maids, and crossing guards. 😊

    • @DrOlds7298
      @DrOlds7298 Před rokem +1

      Sister Car to the 'Furry'.......

  • @ste887
    @ste887 Před rokem +3

    For those who would like a in depth technical look at this shooting, i fully recommend Paul harrels breakdown of it, where he exposes a lot of the myths that the shooting community has randomly thrown together over the shooting.

  • @pirateking518
    @pirateking518 Před rokem +2

    I absolutely lost my shit at the part where the 1911 fires once, gets jammed, and is then discarded. Couldn't get funnier than that

  • @Laura-zy5jp
    @Laura-zy5jp Před rokem +2

    Really enjoy your videos always interesting and informative . Your narrative is candid but also entertaining. I’ve always given you thumbs up and am a subscriber to your channel. It helps tha I to am of British heritage as you are. Thank you for all the work you put into your presentations.😊😊👌👌👍👍💯☘️⭐️⭐️🇨🇦🇨🇦

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute Před rokem

      Hey, a fellow Canadian with strong ties to our British history! Cheers to the war of 1812, and God Save the King! 😉