Both teams rusty. We lost the TMO battle 3-0. Tight calls but no complaints. Overall, I thought SA deserved to win but credit to our boys for sticking in it to the end against a great SA team. Looking forward to next week. Hope Casey is ok.
I would say the decision on kelleher to disallow lowes try was wrong. The legs came back as a direct result of the neck roll and counter ruck driving his legs back. That being said. Our unforced errors were what lost us the game. You should never leave it to the TMO/ref
I have a complaint. Kelleher was illegally cleared out and a late arrival at the ruck led directly to his leg knocking the ball backwards. I’ve never seen anything like that before called back. It was outrageous.
@Dreyno fair point. Ireland was unlucky to have that try chalked off, but it always felt as if the boks would have had enough to close the game out in my view, we would never know unfortunately. Ireland certainly has enough firepower to make it 1-1 in Durban, but they are a bit battered now with injuries, so will be an uphill battle.
Siya was carrying the ball very well, which normally is not his greatest asset, but he never plays towards the ball as a 6, which is a cardinal sin. Marx and Van Staden made a difference at the breakdown because both plays toward the ball, which their opposite numbers don't. Further, both are better defenders than Kolisi and Bongi. Further, in the tighter situation, they carry with much more power. I think Steenkamp played really well when he came on. Kolbe was excellent, De Allende, Kriel, and Willie were the other players who played well. I think Faf cleared the ball well under pressure , pressure created due to the forwards not protecting the scrumhalf. Porter scrumming illegally and not punished by the ref is a concern. Wilco Louw demolished Porter irrespective of his illegal tactics by binding incorrectly thereafter withdrawing from the contact, and consequently, Malherbe over extends then attempts to correct his position to avoid a penalty Porter amounts pressure. The last scrum Malherbe got the better of Porter but was penalized for what? Against Koch Porter could not take the hit, but Koch was penalized for extending.
@@louisvanniekerk2612I can't tell you how many times that Siyas role in the team is not steal ball, even though being a 6. His primary roles are his dominant tackles, and securing attacking ball. It's an absolute lie that you say Kolisi doesn't carry well, his nickname is "cement truck without a reverse gear". Just say you don't rate him enough to actually know what he does and watch him. Then I'll understand.
@@user-du8em2xq5cNo. Boks got new structures. Ireland a bit off/end of season syndrome. Next week is the last for their season so they will give everything.
Tony Brown, he is changing the way the Boks play, they are playing like their URC teams, it’s scary as, they are phenomenal players. We were holding on for most of that test, grit and determination was outstanding! BTW best game I have seen Casey play!
It just never looked or felt like the Irish would win the game. It always felt like SA were in top of the game, but we're never able to finish things off. Perhaps that's what you meant that the Irish showed their quality by still staying so close throughout.
The Springboks kicked a lot less than before; they moved the ball more to the outside channels. I believe Tony Brown has a massive impact on the new style of play. I think the Springboks are moving into a new era. The mistakes made are all things Rassie and Tony Brown will solve with more practice off the field.
Mistakes are down to individual lapses in skill execution, whether it be through pressure exerted by the opposition or just not being fully focused on the job at hand ie: Kwagga spilling two sitters.
Two moments lost the game for Ireland and both involved James Lowe. On both occasions he should have allowed the ball to go out and dead. One lead to Kolbe's try and the second to the Boks push over penalty try.
The Boks can still get better and has frightening depth. For Ireland this is as good as it gets against the Boks. The Boks set the limits and pressured Ireland to not mimic their Six Nations results.
@@francoiscoetzer9920 Lol, you're talking as if the boks smashed them, one score in it boet, that's because the boks played as well as Ireland let them as well.
And Ireland made it easier for SA by not being as efficient in attack as they've normally been. Alao, ref decisions definitely went SA way today. These things work both ways.
Bro... Who imagined Pollard 2 obvious penalties in front of goal... That's 6 points gone.. Score could have been high. Boks defence was absent in this game.. The bomb squad brought it later in the game.... Thor was missed in this game. Jasper must start the game maybe?
Insightful review thank you. Ireland were always chasing the game and did well to hang in there. They scrummed well (except for the last one) but their lineouts were sketchy. Excited to see the Boks using their back line more. Two great tries from both sides!
Can agree about Siya Also so RG And Sacha should’ve come on much earlier…Some other Bokke scrum this time did NOT convince…?! Give Ireland credit for a very VERY tough Game🥂 👊🔥 🪖
Personally I think the Springboks have even more room to improve. Ireland really disrupted their breakdown, Faf was constantly having to deal with the ball moving at the base of the ruck. Scrums were not in the Boks favour. Pollard can play so much better.
Fair play to the Boks But your judging the TMO and ref on the two decisions is not the full story there were a lot of iffy decisions that took away any momentum ireland built
and the ref and tmo were not calling Ireland. It works both sides with Ireland constantly off side and lying on the wrong side. PLEAS DON'T FORGET TO MENTION THAT.
Ireland are pure class. Springboks were slightly better. Sets up the next game nicely. These are the two marquis teams in the world currently. Both were a bit rusty but they can only get better.
I knew this was a big ask to win at Loftus but I hoped they would put up a performance that would demand respect from the Boks and fans. In that regard I think Ireland met my expectations today. If one of those close TMO calls went our way it could have been a draw. But on the whole the Boks are the better team.
I don't think Ireland and Ireland fans did themselves any favours by claiming to be the best team in the world after winning the Six Nations. That was silly and probably just motivated the Boks more. If you won the series in SA, you could have MAYBE claimed that.
@IrishInsomniac76. Ireland did really well (speaking as neutral Kiwi). They played 80mins with skill and toughness vs a Bok team who sends on 6 fresh forwards in second half. Ireland can hold head high for how they performed. Hope they can get more points on next week.
@HeeniKeke Every team in the world can structure their bench in the same way. The complaints of "bok rugby" are getting old now. We play Bok rugby and its winning rugby. Strange why no team has atleast tried implementing a similar bench structure, just complaints and pushing World Rugby to change laws
@@CuspVirgo merely stating that rugby has changed from what it used to be….where replacements were only used for injuries. Zero need to get all hissy over things.
The Irish definitely have respect from most of us South Africans. They are an excellent team no doubt. Unfortunately we have a lot of arrogant fans as well. Looking forward to the next game, I hope it's a close one.
I think Ireland were fatigued mentally, recent losses with Munster and Leinster seemed to leave them a bit jaded, but this Ireland need the backline of Lowe, Keenan and Hansen, plus JGP to be at their best.
The way TMO operates once a try is scored is wrong. The TMO goes looking for a reason to disallow a try. Should only look for foul play. Instead they nit pic over minor infringements at ruck and maul That's totally wrong. If the TMO isnt called on then stay out of it. From nz
Boks deserved to win but if that try had been allowed it would have changed the momentum and unnerved SA and the outcome could have been different. Bundie gets a latch so it should have been a penalty advantage to Ireland. Kellagher is being neck rolled and has no idea what his feet are doing. It was a try, Ben Whitehouse should have left it alone
I think South Africa was extremely rusty and way worse than Ireland. The Boks could easily won the game by 20 to 25 points if they were more clinical. I think this was Ireland's best opportunity. They won't get the Springboks at home as poor as that again. I expect the Boks to be convincing winners in the 2nd test.
Boks playing a brand new gameplan, running it from everywhere, giving Ireland territory by not kicking much at all, very early in the season and still a bit rusty, Ireland without their usual 9 and 10 and maybe tired from Six Nations and off the pace….i think it’s about as good as you could have expected for a test match.
Firstly, not within purview of the TMO to get involved unless there is dangerous play. Secondly, Bundi was on the ball and Kelleher was getting neck rolled so Ireland should have been playing advantage. Pity this TMO incompetence dictated the result of this game
Ireland should be proud yet frustrated. Beating the Boks in SA is very very tough and Ireland ran them close whilst still not at their best. The Boks will be a real problem once Tony Brown's impact settles in .
I feel Lowes try that was disallowed is unfair seeing Kelleher hooking the ball back was when he was being neck rolled like? Every time Ireland seemed to be getting back into it there was a dubious TMO incoming. I hate to be talking about TMOs but its just too obvious in this match. SA deserve the win but Irelands confidence was pushed back so many times and still cam back into it up to the 80s minute multiple times.
Very good review Alfie. In my opinion both teams were not up to it. Big credit to Ireland for the close game. Cheers from Durban. Let's see next Saturday what happens. Enjoy your day.
Both Teams were not on it to suggest Ireland lost because they were off .. is not an argument, South Africa were off too they had not played together for a long time and are trying new things. The better team won , if Pollard had been on form in Kicking the score would have been much higher ...
@@AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv Agreed, but only if there was a neck roll on Kelleher prior. If there wasn't he played the ball at the breakdown illegally. I for one and enthused by this type of TMO intervention, as there have been many many tries awarded over the years that shouldn't have been, owing to breakdown infrigements.
Anticipation is a bugger. Both teams were a little rusty and both teams will be better next week. It was a tough, tough game and despite the errors, both wanted it. I "anticipate" :) a much better tighter game next week. Thanks for a great video
People are saying this all day. The Boks played Wales a couple of weeks ago, some players were changed, yes, but they played together as the National South African Mens RU Team. This particular Ireland team have never played together before today, and the Irish Rugby Team have not played together in 4 months. They done well didn't they? Considering the Boks have had more rest than IRL, I think both teams made plenty of errors but showed up to play. But SA are world champions and rightly so. Can't wait for next week.
@@TauCeti973 I also think it doesnt matter. The abs hadnt played at all and just played england. Its a thing that happens, big deal, they are professional rugby players, they should be able to play well after a break. Also, the opposite is also true, if you have played many games, people then claim their team is tired lol. I just dont think anyone should care. We meet, we play, the game is over. I really get sick of excuses.
@@davidwalker2402 No excuses, just facts. The team that played 2 weeks ago did not have a lot of the main players including Kolisi, Pollard, Snyman, Kolbe, Le Roux, Arendse and van Staden. That makes up 7 (about 30%) of a match day 23. Two weeks ago the Blue Bulls were playing the finals of the United Rugby Championships while other players (like Kolisi) were not eligible because the game fell outside the test window period.
SA kicked less and ran more. As an experiment it caused their play to be disjointed but the signs are there and the All Blacks and Ireland should be worried about the levels the Boks will be at come 2027. 🇿🇦
@@teddydavid1026 Winning rugby is only boring when you lose 😉🤣 These boys are big not as a result of steriods (which are banned and where players are regularly tested), but as a result of genetics, and a steady diet of braaivleis and boerewors 🤣
Alfred speak about the neck roll to Kelleher during the hooked ball back. And also the Lowe being in touch part nah give that try to them. This would be sickening to have a try like that taken away. Kolbe is a beast! hahaha
Ireland clearly beat itself.2 tries from Lowes rookie mistakes,especialy the last one when SA got scrum on 5m.Both teams were far from their top level.Second game should be much better.
With Regards To The TMO Interventions: Whenever a Try has been scored generally TMO'S do come in to check for a possible knock-on or for potential foul-play or for committing infringements in the lead-up to a Try. We see it happening week in, week out in the Champions Cup and in the URC. With Regards To The TMO Interventions in this game between South Africa and Ireland: For me the narrative that the Ref and TMO was "more in favor of South Africa than Ireland" is driven on Emotion and the End Result. Because if the TMO Interventions were "more in favor of Ireland" this exact same narrative would have been switched over to the other side. Professional Sport is a Results Driven Business.
South Africa are developing and expanding their game, still experimenting and were the better side. Fair play, they deserved the win. Ireland were a bit off the pace, especially in the first half. However, I have to say, the TMO interventions were unreal! In particular, the intervention to overturn Lowe's try was shocking. Kelleher was seriously neck rolled but despite all the scrutiny on that ruck, why was this not dealt with? SA got the penalty. Incredible. Also, if the TMO is going to scrutinise a ruck like that to find an infringement, why did he not ping Siya Kolisi when he played the ball back on the ground when he was lying on top of Doris? That play resulted in a penalty to SA? totally inconsistent. The TMO interventions had a one sided feel about them.
According to rugby laws - the refs made the right decisions. Also, the boks slowed down Irish ball at ruck time which impeded the Irish game. The boks were brilliant at disrupting Irelands game and applying the pressure. This made it difficult for Ireland to play.
Ireland has limited depth, and missed JGP a lot. Ireland coming off a long season was evident by the number of injuries. The Springboks still lack cohesion and made several mistakes. I thought the rev had a great game. WR has many worse. I think he is one of the best right now.
Agree with you Alfred it was rusty from both sides next weekend should be epic as the ice has broken, both teams should settle in and know what to expect and how to deliver
Neither of the two sides were great. The Springboks are playing a totally new game. It will take time to execute it perfectly. Luckily the next world cup is only in 2027 so they have time.
You guys undermine the Springboks too much. 90% of the team of today last played together at the World Cup final, Ireland is an amazing team that played and won a whole 6 nations, we expected them to be more clinical
You might not have realised that all the Irish players have just finished their domestic rugby season. Is it any wonder they look off.. lots of comments about how SA have not played but none about the fatigue of European cups,domestic leagues etc…. If you ask me the performance came from the traveling side. Decisions going in the home sides favour and a day one man cares to forget, Mr James Lowe
Can never discount the ABs in any match. Irish was excellent at the breakdown. Also, the Irish players have played more due to being in finals in 2 different competitions. So not just physical but mental fatigue, since they lost those finals, never mind how they failed at the WC.
James Lowe was in touch Shocking ref. Real poor. All the descions went to South Africa a try which you could see it was grounded Luke pearse was the different between the teams
Both rusty and next week will be intense and much better. Ireland were offside so many times and never blown up for it and other strange calls. The anthem with no singer was 'goosebump' stuff.
A blind man could see that Lowe was out. He clearly gives the ball a final flick with the right hand when his foot is planted on the ground. Still, good win by the Boks. Great to see them utilizing good attacking ball & putting it through the hands. Arendse' acceleration off the mark is quite astonishing.
Inconclusive. You know, it’s so weird to see Ireland fans hoping for a failed play by an Irish player. If it was scooped up by an Ireland player and went the other way for a try, would it still be clearly out to a blind man or would it be a spectacular effort to keep it in?
The Lowe offload out of touch was 50/50. If Ireland had gone on to score a try from him keeping that ball in, then Irish fans would be saying he was not in touch. It was simply 50/50 and the question he asked led to the answer.
Both looked a bit off but I think the Bok win is huge, especially after the WC win. Easy for double world cup and B&I Lions winners to drop off and become complacent but a they were very much up for it. Ireland were good, not great but they stuck in there, massive character shown and big respect from every rugby lover in SA for them. The 2nd test is going to be even closer!
When 1 team has a lot of uncharacteristic errors it can be explained away by nerves or fatigue but the errors were very similar from both teams so it makes me feel the conditions played a role.
Thanks, someone finally coming with an unbiased view. How can Irish media say their players are tired from a long season, they literally play in the same domestic league as the Bok players. I think it shows that the Irish are relieved it was not a big pumping and just 7 points. But we cannot deny that Ireland showed resilience 2nd half but they couldn’t attack and play the way we have seen in the past because of the Bok pressure. Matter of fact Boks seem to be the only team that consistently pressures Ireland to a point where they do not flow in their attack
This is what most people were predicting one score or 10 points win by South Africa so I guess it’s not too bad considering we’redown three top players
I think the onus should be on our defence to be there and get possession. It was an individual moment of absolute brilliance from kolbe much like his clearance in the first half
You say Ireland was off it but they have played the Six Nation after the World Cup and the Boks second game since the World Cup. Also new coaches changing the game.
Ireland may well be tired but SA has not played since the WC and the core of the team is from Japan where they stopped playing some tine ago. Others, like Etzebeth, played all the club games the Irish played. So let's leave the "we wuz tired" and "we didn't play a long time" BS. The Irish code has been cracked in the club games already. It rests on forward domination (with done shi*housery in the rucks) and repeated phased and then wide. It gets contained by by good and aggressive defence. And at the forwards SA was probably better in the set pieces (that last heavy metal scrum). Ireland left points on the field, SA as well. On the day SA was ( marginally perhaps but clearly) the best team and they scored the most points. So they won.
Honestly this excuse of Ireland not being their usual self is starting to irritate me. The Boks outplayed them done deal, it’s okay to take the L sometimes
Both teams were not their best.There is definitely a change in the boks game plans. So I think they will get better. But the boks defence was really lacking around the fringes.
As a Springbok supporter, we certainly got the rub of the green in key descisions. The Colby try shouldn't have been alowed, Lowe was in touch. The breakdown was a mess and I really don't know how half of the calls came our way, or the Irish way for that matter. But the ice is broken and next week will be better performance from both sides. No good team should rely on 50/50 calls to win in big games.
@@subbie5498you couldn’t see that and neither could the TMO yet the TMO was forced to agree with the on field recommendation of a clown of a referee WHO ABSOLUTELY COULDNT SEE IT…
If I were an Ireland supporter, I wouldve been seriously pissed off by the decisions. Faf was not at his best behind the scrum and struggled to provide clean ball. Damien, Siya, Jesse and Pieter Steph were outstanding.
What decisions? The 2 incidents where very 50/50 and reffed according to the letter of the law. Can't mention that without mentioning the continous illegal slowing of the ball and interfering with the 9 at every ruck can you now?
Porter should have been blown more in the scrums, for trying to pull the hit down.. negative scrumming. Also o’Mahoney slowing down fast ruck ball.. reminds me of McCaw era.. playing grey area disruptive rugby
The scoreline could've been a lot worse and so i don't completely agree. Had all the spot kicks gone over it would've looked very different. Boks at the breakdown were not good enough. Faf fell asleep literally. We should stick to the Bok style of play and incorporate taking the ball out wide around that.
So you think the TMO take on Kelleher passing the ball back on the ground ( Not the floor as stated by Pearce, nowhere is the word floor used in the Rugby Laws.) , while being neck rolled straight in front of the referee and both the TMO and the Referee ignore the neck role, while also the Ref who had a perfect view of the ruck ignored both until the TMO's intervention. Yet the amount of forward passes ignored by both was unbelievable, Dodgy Ref and TMO all day long
Agreed. The TMO was really bad in this game and the ref missed lots of different stuff on both sides. The least we can expect at this level of the game is competence.
Both teams rusty. We lost the TMO battle 3-0. Tight calls but no complaints. Overall, I thought SA deserved to win but credit to our boys for sticking in it to the end against a great SA team. Looking forward to next week. Hope Casey is ok.
I would say the decision on kelleher to disallow lowes try was wrong. The legs came back as a direct result of the neck roll and counter ruck driving his legs back. That being said. Our unforced errors were what lost us the game. You should never leave it to the TMO/ref
I have a complaint. Kelleher was illegally cleared out and a late arrival at the ruck led directly to his leg knocking the ball backwards. I’ve never seen anything like that before called back. It was outrageous.
Casey had a massive hit, so happy he waved to show he's OK, probably concussion..... Hopefully nothing long term.
Yeah I would feel hard done by with that call if it went against the Boks, that said I think the ref had a good game in general.
@Dreyno fair point. Ireland was unlucky to have that try chalked off, but it always felt as if the boks would have had enough to close the game out in my view, we would never know unfortunately. Ireland certainly has enough firepower to make it 1-1 in Durban, but they are a bit battered now with injuries, so will be an uphill battle.
Neither team were at their best, Ireland is a very good team...The boks will get better too, it's still early in their season
Agree..I did think Ireland would be a bit more slick having won a Six Nations already..Bokke also have a lot of work to do..we let in soft tries..
It's been a 13 month season for most players on both sides
Bok fan... Ireland well played!! Both teams looked off it but the Boks look and feel as if they're evolving into the "new plan".
I thought Siya had an outstanding game
Siya was carrying the ball very well, which normally is not his greatest asset, but he never plays towards the ball as a 6, which is a cardinal sin. Marx and Van Staden made a difference at the breakdown because both plays toward the ball, which their opposite numbers don't. Further, both are better defenders than Kolisi and Bongi. Further, in the tighter situation, they carry with much more power. I think Steenkamp played really well when he came on. Kolbe was excellent, De Allende, Kriel, and Willie were the other players who played well. I think Faf cleared the ball well under pressure , pressure created due to the forwards not protecting the scrumhalf. Porter scrumming illegally and not punished by the ref is a concern. Wilco Louw demolished Porter irrespective of his illegal tactics by binding incorrectly thereafter withdrawing from the contact, and consequently, Malherbe over extends then attempts to correct his position to avoid a penalty Porter amounts pressure. The last scrum Malherbe got the better of Porter but was penalized for what? Against Koch Porter could not take the hit, but Koch was penalized for extending.
@@louisvanniekerk2612I can't tell you how many times that Siyas role in the team is not steal ball, even though being a 6. His primary roles are his dominant tackles, and securing attacking ball. It's an absolute lie that you say Kolisi doesn't carry well, his nickname is "cement truck without a reverse gear". Just say you don't rate him enough to actually know what he does and watch him. Then I'll understand.
@@louisvanniekerk2612Siya has always been a good ball carrier. He plays to team instructions.
Agreed
He was monumental
Neither team looked their best…. Next week will hopefully be better. Just happy that the boks at least won even though they looked disjointed
@@ktm690endurorally Don't you think that because the 2 teams are so evenly matched, it only appears that way; strengths neutralized?
@@user-du8em2xq5cNo. Boks got new structures. Ireland a bit off/end of season syndrome.
Next week is the last for their season so they will give everything.
Boks used this to completely experiment and play in a way they never do, to still beat no.2 in the world while doing that is impressive
The game was not as good as the wc game.
Ireland picked up even more injuries in key positions. Tough ask for Ireland at the end of long season but they won’t roll over whomever is playing.
Tony Brown, he is changing the way the Boks play, they are playing like their URC teams, it’s scary as, they are phenomenal players. We were holding on for most of that test, grit and determination was outstanding! BTW best game I have seen Casey play!
Seeing the Boks play more running rugby with the backline under Browns influence is great to see.
It just never looked or felt like the Irish would win the game. It always felt like SA were in top of the game, but we're never able to finish things off. Perhaps that's what you meant that the Irish showed their quality by still staying so close throughout.
The Springboks kicked a lot less than before; they moved the ball more to the outside channels. I believe Tony Brown has a massive impact on the new style of play. I think the Springboks are moving into a new era. The mistakes made are all things Rassie and Tony Brown will solve with more practice off the field.
Mistakes are down to individual lapses in skill execution, whether it be through pressure exerted by the opposition or just not being fully focused on the job at hand ie: Kwagga spilling two sitters.
As a Bok supporter,the Irish did well.I think it's going to be even harder for the boks in the upcoming game.
Fair play to Boks,we were beaten fair and square
Two moments lost the game for Ireland and both involved James Lowe. On both occasions he should have allowed the ball to go out and dead. One lead to Kolbe's try and the second to the Boks push over penalty try.
By that reasoning Ireland would not have scored its first try.
Both teams played so, so rugby....But Ireland and the Springboks are superior to the other teams that played this weekend 😊!!!!
Lol.
Just worry about Ireland mate.
We'll know soon enough about how "superior" you are to the rest, right?
The Boks can still get better and has frightening depth. For Ireland this is as good as it gets against the Boks. The Boks set the limits and pressured Ireland to not mimic their Six Nations results.
@francoiscoetzer9920
Hardly, Ireland weren't at their best & have alot of improvement in them too.
We'll see soon enough.
@@ngabushallday6642 Ireland played as well as the Boks allowed them to play.
@@francoiscoetzer9920
Lol, you're talking as if the boks smashed them, one score in it boet, that's because the boks played as well as Ireland let them as well.
SA kept Ireland in the game by not being as clinical as they are normally are. I thought SA looked a little rusty but still looked the better team.
TMO kept SA in the game
And Ireland made it easier for SA by not being as efficient in attack as they've normally been. Alao, ref decisions definitely went SA way today. These things work both ways.
@laoch5658 haha... beaten and battered ! So glad you will never experience the joy of winning 4 world cups.
@@stephendoherty981 SA looked rusty but still won
Bro... Who imagined Pollard 2 obvious penalties in front of goal... That's 6 points gone.. Score could have been high. Boks defence was absent in this game.. The bomb squad brought it later in the game.... Thor was missed in this game. Jasper must start the game maybe?
Insightful review thank you. Ireland were always chasing the game and did well to hang in there. They scrummed well (except for the last one) but their lineouts were sketchy. Excited to see the Boks using their back line more. Two great tries from both sides!
Can agree about Siya
Also so RG
And Sacha should’ve come on much earlier…Some other
Bokke scrum this time did NOT convince…?!
Give Ireland credit for a very VERY tough Game🥂
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Porter illegal scrummaging my guy. Please rewatch the scrums, he was literally cork screwing the front trying to pull Frans down.
Personally I think the Springboks have even more room to improve. Ireland really disrupted their breakdown, Faf was constantly having to deal with the ball moving at the base of the ruck. Scrums were not in the Boks favour. Pollard can play so much better.
Fair play to the Boks
But your judging the TMO and ref on the two decisions is not the full story there were a lot of iffy decisions that took away any momentum ireland built
and the ref and tmo were not calling Ireland. It works both sides with Ireland constantly off side and lying on the wrong side. PLEAS DON'T FORGET TO MENTION THAT.
Ireland are pure class. Springboks were slightly better. Sets up the next game nicely. These are the two marquis teams in the world currently. Both were a bit rusty but they can only get better.
I knew this was a big ask to win at Loftus but I hoped they would put up a performance that would demand respect from the Boks and fans. In that regard I think Ireland met my expectations today. If one of those close TMO calls went our way it could have been a draw. But on the whole the Boks are the better team.
I don't think Ireland and Ireland fans did themselves any favours by claiming to be the best team in the world after winning the Six Nations. That was silly and probably just motivated the Boks more.
If you won the series in SA, you could have MAYBE claimed that.
@IrishInsomniac76. Ireland did really well (speaking as neutral Kiwi). They played 80mins with skill and toughness vs a Bok team who sends on 6 fresh forwards in second half. Ireland can hold head high for how they performed. Hope they can get more points on next week.
@HeeniKeke Every team in the world can structure their bench in the same way. The complaints of "bok rugby" are getting old now. We play Bok rugby and its winning rugby. Strange why no team has atleast tried implementing a similar bench structure, just complaints and pushing World Rugby to change laws
@@CuspVirgo merely stating that rugby has changed from what it used to be….where replacements were only used for injuries. Zero need to get all hissy over things.
The Irish definitely have respect from most of us South Africans. They are an excellent team no doubt. Unfortunately we have a lot of arrogant fans as well.
Looking forward to the next game, I hope it's a close one.
I think Ireland were fatigued mentally, recent losses with Munster and Leinster seemed to leave them a bit jaded, but this Ireland need the backline of Lowe, Keenan and Hansen, plus JGP to be at their best.
Yep add Conan and Henderson into the mix on the bench too.
@@dazza9859 Henderson? 😂
James Lowe was a real thorn in the boks sail.
James Lowe was directly responsible for 2 trys for Ireland conceded to South Africa.
The way TMO operates once a try is scored is wrong.
The TMO goes looking for a reason to disallow a try. Should only look for foul play. Instead they nit pic over minor infringements at ruck and maul That's totally wrong.
If the TMO isnt called on then stay out of it.
From nz
I like this approach. The rules and officials are strangling play, not facilitating it.
Boks deserved to win but if that try had been allowed it would have changed the momentum and unnerved SA and the outcome could have been different. Bundie gets a latch so it should have been a penalty advantage to Ireland. Kellagher is being neck rolled and has no idea what his feet are doing. It was a try, Ben Whitehouse should have left it alone
Also they have played 5 games this year. Springboks has only played 1!
I think South Africa was extremely rusty and way worse than Ireland. The Boks could easily won the game by 20 to 25 points if they were more clinical. I think this was Ireland's best opportunity. They won't get the Springboks at home as poor as that again. I expect the Boks to be convincing winners in the 2nd test.
As an Ireland fan I unfortunately have to agree
I disagree, I expect Ireland to be much better next week and get the win!
Boks playing a brand new gameplan, running it from everywhere, giving Ireland territory by not kicking much at all, very early in the season and still a bit rusty, Ireland without their usual 9 and 10 and maybe tired from Six Nations and off the pace….i think it’s about as good as you could have expected for a test match.
Firstly, not within purview of the TMO to get involved unless there is dangerous play. Secondly, Bundi was on the ball and Kelleher was getting neck rolled so Ireland should have been playing advantage. Pity this TMO incompetence dictated the result of this game
Ireland should be proud yet frustrated. Beating the Boks in SA is very very tough and Ireland ran them close whilst still not at their best. The Boks will be a real problem once Tony Brown's impact settles in .
Sacha Feinberg should've came on at half time, Pollard wasn't up to his usual standards
I feel Lowes try that was disallowed is unfair seeing Kelleher hooking the ball back was when he was being neck rolled like? Every time Ireland seemed to be getting back into it there was a dubious TMO incoming. I hate to be talking about TMOs but its just too obvious in this match. SA deserve the win but Irelands confidence was pushed back so many times and still cam back into it up to the 80s minute multiple times.
Very good review Alfie. In my opinion both teams were not up to it. Big credit to Ireland for the close game.
Cheers from Durban.
Let's see next Saturday what happens.
Enjoy your day.
Both Teams were not on it to suggest Ireland lost because they were off .. is not an argument, South Africa were off too they had not played together for a long time and are trying new things. The better team won , if Pollard had been on form in Kicking the score would have been much higher ...
But the Boks weren’t at their best either. So overall a fair game.
Well done SA 👏👏, still don"t get the disallowed try by Lowe and also Doris
Doris was held up. Not sure about the Lowe.
@@vuyaniman9440no he wasn’t held up and the decision was based on on field instruction by a clown of a ref..
@@davidwalker2402 , however you want to see it.
From an SA i think lowe try was a try
@@AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv Agreed, but only if there was a neck roll on Kelleher prior. If there wasn't he played the ball at the breakdown illegally. I for one and enthused by this type of TMO intervention, as there have been many many tries awarded over the years that shouldn't have been, owing to breakdown infrigements.
Anticipation is a bugger. Both teams were a little rusty and both teams will be better next week. It was a tough, tough game and despite the errors, both wanted it. I "anticipate" :) a much better tighter game next week. Thanks for a great video
This particular Boks team had not played together since November last year, while Ireland had played the Six Nations.
That was 4 months ago. and they have only been together for a few days before this test.
People are saying this all day. The Boks played Wales a couple of weeks ago, some players were changed, yes, but they played together as the National South African Mens RU Team. This particular Ireland team have never played together before today, and the Irish Rugby Team have not played together in 4 months. They done well didn't they? Considering the Boks have had more rest than IRL, I think both teams made plenty of errors but showed up to play. But SA are world champions and rightly so. Can't wait for next week.
You played two weeks ago Ireland haven’t played in 4 months. SA spend all their time making excuses…
@@TauCeti973 I also think it doesnt matter. The abs hadnt played at all and just played england. Its a thing that happens, big deal, they are professional rugby players, they should be able to play well after a break. Also, the opposite is also true, if you have played many games, people then claim their team is tired lol. I just dont think anyone should care. We meet, we play, the game is over. I really get sick of excuses.
@@davidwalker2402 No excuses, just facts. The team that played 2 weeks ago did not have a lot of the main players including Kolisi, Pollard, Snyman, Kolbe, Le Roux, Arendse and van Staden. That makes up 7 (about 30%) of a match day 23. Two weeks ago the Blue Bulls were playing the finals of the United Rugby Championships while other players (like Kolisi) were not eligible because the game fell outside the test window period.
SA kicked less and ran more. As an experiment it caused their play to be disjointed but the signs are there and the All Blacks and Ireland should be worried about the levels the Boks will be at come 2027. 🇿🇦
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@@teddydavid1026 Winning rugby is only boring when you lose 😉🤣 These boys are big not as a result of steriods (which are banned and where players are regularly tested), but as a result of genetics, and a steady diet of braaivleis and boerewors 🤣
@@teddydavid1026 Interesting oxymoron, from a moron :)
Ireland wasn't at their best. If they were, we would have been in trouble. Respect to them for staying in the game.
Definitely not a blockbuster but a lot more exciting attack from SA! Tony Brown doing bits and I’m all for it!
SA were also well off their game, if you consider the clinical performances at the RWC.
Alfred speak about the neck roll to Kelleher during the hooked ball back. And also the Lowe being in touch part nah give that try to them. This would be sickening to have a try like that taken away. Kolbe is a beast! hahaha
Ireland clearly beat itself.2 tries from Lowes rookie mistakes,especialy the last one when SA got scrum on 5m.Both teams were far from their top level.Second game should be much better.
With Regards To The TMO Interventions:
Whenever a Try has been scored generally TMO'S do come in to check for a possible knock-on or for potential foul-play or for committing infringements in the lead-up to a Try.
We see it happening week in, week out in the Champions Cup and in the URC.
With Regards To The TMO Interventions in this game between South Africa and Ireland:
For me the narrative that the Ref and TMO was "more in favor of South Africa than Ireland" is driven on Emotion and the End Result.
Because if the TMO Interventions were "more in favor of Ireland" this exact same narrative would have been switched over to the other side.
Professional Sport is a Results Driven Business.
As a saffa must say Ireland was unlucky and we were lucky for once 😅 both played well ish could have gone either way.
Was a bit unsatisfying.
South Africa are developing and expanding their game, still experimenting and were the better side. Fair play, they deserved the win. Ireland were a bit off the pace, especially in the first half.
However, I have to say, the TMO interventions were unreal! In particular, the intervention to overturn Lowe's try was shocking. Kelleher was seriously neck rolled but despite all the scrutiny on that ruck, why was this not dealt with? SA got the penalty. Incredible.
Also, if the TMO is going to scrutinise a ruck like that to find an infringement, why did he not ping Siya Kolisi when he played the ball back on the ground when he was lying on top of Doris? That play resulted in a penalty to SA? totally inconsistent.
The TMO interventions had a one sided feel about them.
According to rugby laws - the refs made the right decisions. Also, the boks slowed down Irish ball at ruck time which impeded the Irish game. The boks were brilliant at disrupting Irelands game and applying the pressure. This made it difficult for Ireland to play.
I thought the Irish was excellent at the breakdown. Faf was having a tough time.
@@coatknight yeah - Ireland are brilliant at breakdown work
Ireland has limited depth, and missed JGP a lot. Ireland coming off a long season was evident by the number of injuries. The Springboks still lack cohesion and made several mistakes. I thought the rev had a great game. WR has many worse. I think he is one of the best right now.
Agree with you Alfred
it was rusty from both sides
next weekend should be epic
as the ice has broken,
both teams should settle in and know what to expect and how to deliver
Great analysis! 👍 as an Irish fan, have to agree best team won on the day.
Neither of the two sides were great. The Springboks are playing a totally new game. It will take time to execute it perfectly. Luckily the next world cup is only in 2027 so they have time.
Definitely the best game of the weekend
You guys undermine the Springboks too much. 90% of the team of today last played together at the World Cup final, Ireland is an amazing team that played and won a whole 6 nations, we expected them to be more clinical
You might not have realised that all the Irish players have just finished their domestic rugby season. Is it any wonder they look off.. lots of comments about how SA have not played but none about the fatigue of European cups,domestic leagues etc…. If you ask me the performance came from the traveling side. Decisions going in the home sides favour and a day one man cares to forget, Mr James Lowe
Bolox Ireland haven’t played for 4 months. Quit with the excuses ..
We don't give a damn if Ireland showed up or not. It's a test match.
I think you would give a damn if Ireland didn't show up - there wouldn't be a match.
James Lowe had a beautiful assist on Kolbes try 😂😂😂
Can never discount the ABs in any match.
Irish was excellent at the breakdown.
Also, the Irish players have played more due to being in finals in 2 different competitions. So not just physical but mental fatigue, since they lost those finals, never mind how they failed at the WC.
James Lowe was in touch Shocking ref. Real poor. All the descions went to South Africa a try which you could see it was grounded Luke pearse was the different between the teams
Was he in touch, no I think he was stupid to play the ball trying to get it back in play, very stupid
Thought the Irish were lucky not to get blown up more at the breakdown.
Or pulling the scrum backwards to make Malherbe over-extend?
I really enjoyed the drama. Entertaining game!
Never felt the BOKS was going to loose this game
Can't use the excuse that Ireland missed some keys players cause so did the Springboks...
Both rusty and next week will be intense and much better. Ireland were offside so many times and never blown up for it and other strange calls. The anthem with no singer was 'goosebump' stuff.
A blind man could see that Lowe was out.
He clearly gives the ball a final flick with the right hand when his foot is planted on the ground.
Still, good win by the Boks.
Great to see them utilizing good attacking ball & putting it through the hands.
Arendse' acceleration off the mark is quite astonishing.
Inconclusive. You know, it’s so weird to see Ireland fans hoping for a failed play by an Irish player. If it was scooped up by an Ireland player and went the other way for a try, would it still be clearly out to a blind man or would it be a spectacular effort to keep it in?
Well - EVERYONE watched it in slow motion about ten times. Millions of blind people agreed with the TMO decision😂😂😂.
Clearly? Are you kidding me? Time for that eye test, bud.
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Lol, no jokes mate.
It's there for you to have another look at.
Gibson Park was really missed.
We need the top two teams in Rugby Championship to play in a proper final...NZ gets false hope every year by winning it
Good review! Also think the game did not live up to (very high) expectations. Not only Ireland, SA was also “off”. Next week should be better.
Man of the match for South Africa is James Lowe.
One try assit and a colossal effort to win them the game smashing scrum and the resultant penalty try
Man of the match for the whole match was Jesse Kriel.
Gibson Park
We miss you.
The Lowe offload out of touch was 50/50. If Ireland had gone on to score a try from him keeping that ball in, then Irish fans would be saying he was not in touch. It was simply 50/50 and the question he asked led to the answer.
Both looked a bit off but I think the Bok win is huge, especially after the WC win. Easy for double world cup and B&I Lions winners to drop off and become complacent but a they were very much up for it. Ireland were good, not great but they stuck in there, massive character shown and big respect from every rugby lover in SA for them.
The 2nd test is going to be even closer!
Siya, Arendse, Kolbe, PSDT and Jesse K were sublime. As for Faf, polly and Kwagga...not so great
Ireland were always playing catch up and it was a fair result.
When 1 team has a lot of uncharacteristic errors it can be explained away by nerves or fatigue but the errors were very similar from both teams so it makes me feel the conditions played a role.
Thanks, someone finally coming with an unbiased view. How can Irish media say their players are tired from a long season, they literally play in the same domestic league as the Bok players. I think it shows that the Irish are relieved it was not a big pumping and just 7 points. But we cannot deny that Ireland showed resilience 2nd half but they couldn’t attack and play the way we have seen in the past because of the Bok pressure. Matter of fact Boks seem to be the only team that consistently pressures Ireland to a point where they do not flow in their attack
Books game plan is most certainly not World Cup rugby. I haven't seen a Boks team spread the ball like they did in years.
This is what most people were predicting one score or 10 points win by South Africa so I guess it’s not too bad considering we’redown three top players
Brutal to say the least
Had Kolbe not followed up and scored, play would have gone on because the linesman did not flag the ball as out.
Thanks Alfred for your review .I think your review is much more balanced than the one sided view at eggchasers rugby.
First proper test since WC, we can only get better as well. Next week will be tighter.
Another camera angle would have made the decision more definite on Kolbes try.
I think the onus should be on our defence to be there and get possession. It was an individual moment of absolute brilliance from kolbe much like his clearance in the first half
You say Ireland was off it but they have played the Six Nation after the World Cup and the Boks second game since the World Cup. Also new coaches changing the game.
It was messy Faf struggled to get clean ball.
Ireland may well be tired but SA has not played since the WC and the core of the team is from Japan where they stopped playing some tine ago. Others, like Etzebeth, played all the club games the Irish played.
So let's leave the "we wuz tired" and "we didn't play a long time" BS.
The Irish code has been cracked in the club games already. It rests on forward domination (with done shi*housery in the rucks) and repeated phased and then wide. It gets contained by by good and aggressive defence. And at the forwards SA was probably better in the set pieces (that last heavy metal scrum). Ireland left points on the field, SA as well.
On the day SA was ( marginally perhaps but clearly) the best team and they scored the most points. So they won.
Honestly this excuse of Ireland not being their usual self is starting to irritate me. The Boks outplayed them done deal, it’s okay to take the L sometimes
Becoming a trend now Ireland being "off it" vs the big SH teams
Both teams were not their best.There is definitely a change in the boks game plans. So I think they will get better. But the boks defence was really lacking around the fringes.
As a Springbok supporter, we certainly got the rub of the green in key descisions. The Colby try shouldn't have been alowed, Lowe was in touch. The breakdown was a mess and I really don't know how half of the calls came our way, or the Irish way for that matter. But the ice is broken and next week will be better performance from both sides. No good team should rely on 50/50 calls to win in big games.
the ball left his hand before his foot touch the ground
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@@subbie5498not his right hand. The camera angle that shows it magically vanished
@@subbie5498you couldn’t see that and neither could the TMO yet the TMO was forced to agree with the on field recommendation of a clown of a referee WHO ABSOLUTELY COULDNT SEE IT…
If I were an Ireland supporter, I wouldve been seriously pissed off by the decisions. Faf was not at his best behind the scrum and struggled to provide clean ball. Damien, Siya, Jesse and Pieter Steph were outstanding.
What decisions? The 2 incidents where very 50/50 and reffed according to the letter of the law.
Can't mention that without mentioning the continous illegal slowing of the ball and interfering with the 9 at every ruck can you now?
My worry’s for the Bokke is the amount of turnovers they lost
Thought it was a good game. Some rust certainly. Pollard didn't have his kicking boots on or the result would probably have been more emphatic.
Neither team were at their best. The scoreboard however, flatters Ireland. The game was not as close as it suggests. Both teams will improve.
One interesting thing today was the lack of mauls in all the games. I think the maul is going to disapear with the new laws.
Porter should have been blown more in the scrums, for trying to pull the hit down.. negative scrumming. Also o’Mahoney slowing down fast ruck ball.. reminds me of McCaw era.. playing grey area disruptive rugby
How can anyone say the TMO shouldn’t say anything when there’s a clear breakdown infringement, which immediately led to a try.
The scoreline could've been a lot worse and so i don't completely agree. Had all the spot kicks gone over it would've looked very different. Boks at the breakdown were not good enough. Faf fell asleep literally. We should stick to the Bok style of play and incorporate taking the ball out wide around that.
So you think the TMO take on Kelleher passing the ball back on the ground ( Not the floor as stated by Pearce, nowhere is the word floor used in the Rugby Laws.) , while being neck rolled straight in front of the referee and both the TMO and the Referee ignore the neck role, while also the Ref who had a perfect view of the ruck ignored both until the TMO's intervention. Yet the amount of forward passes ignored by both was unbelievable, Dodgy Ref and TMO all day long
Agreed. The TMO was really bad in this game and the ref missed lots of different stuff on both sides. The least we can expect at this level of the game is competence.
This was a warm up for next Saturday.
I am sure they were testing a new TMO law which both teams agreed to.
Jessie Kriel was EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
Both teams were pretty average. I thought it was a rusty team against a tired team. Boks will just be grateful for the win.
A draw would be a fair result. TMO was wearing his Bok jersey.