Facts. I have the MT6 Snowman version in my ITX pc rig, and it’s done a reliable and superb job in maintaining good temps of my Ryzen 3 3100 up until now. 😊
Another fantastic review as always... "As a Mistral employee once told me, You're only as good as your fans." TISM - "Play Mistral for Me" Machiavelli and the Four Seasons 1995
Many thanks that you have introduced the Snowman tower cooler a few years ago and now I have bought the MT6S version of Snowman for my i7 4790 which runs cooler now (delid + liquid metal)
It's good to hear that the fan speed behaviour is improved. My amd PC no matter if it's stock cooler or big aftermarket cooler changes speed quite roughly, and it's noticeable. If my PC is next to me it can be annoying without headphones
@@RelyksJ No it isn't. Changing the speed of the fan at a given temperature doesn't change the behaviour of the CPU fan when it needs to change speed. He literally explains this in the first minute
@@stawz_Your fan curve absolutely does matter. If you set your CPU cooler to have two speeds it will make a world of difference. Eg I set my cooler to only 30% speed up to 65 degrees so if I am doing anything light eg web browsing it is quiet. Then between 65-85 degrees it goes to 75% speed. This for when I am gaming or doing other intensive tasks, 75% is the highest tolerable speed for me. This means that the cooler isn't constantly ramping up and down, it picks one of the two speeds and sticks to it Then for above 85 degrees it's set to 100% speed as a panic mode in case the CPU ever gets really hot for whatever reason
My 12th gen cooler performs really well! I was using a fairly well reviewed gammaxx cooler that I had to order a new bracket for, long story short there was no need to bother fitting it.
I have the same cpu, it runs to 150watts max, a quick undervolt of 0.1 volt, dropped 20-30watts and 10c temps. I suggest everyone having locked cpus to perform a undervolt. It benefits it greatly, i am already using a giant ak620 cooler to begin with.
I have an i7 gen12 and it's cooling is inadequate and noisy. Went back to get an extra case air extraction fan and it's still inadequate. Hope to get an different CPU fan ( Noctua ) when stock comes in.
You should try (if available where you live) the Thermalright Peerless Assassin. That thing is ridiculously cheap (in the US, at least) and keeps my i7 13700 under control. However, I agree, the stock cooler is laughably inadequate for an i7. Even at 65W it sounds like freaking jet engine.
Could u make a video on how to build an low budget PC? Im not sure if i should rather buy an Xeon or an i5 2500k. Which Xeon would be best on a low budget?
Even if thermals are acceptable on a stock cooler, I would still prefer a bigger aftermarket cooler for a more quiet PC. I 3d printed a bracket to get my old 212 Hyper Plus to fit on AM4, and it works great.
Do a video on something like the Gelid GPU cooler, because I replaced the inner fan with a high RPM Noctua and both my CPU and GPU temperatures went down a lot. My poorly cooled 6600xt now is always cool.
PWM isn't control via voltage up/down. That's DC. PWM is pulse width modulation. The device is constantly getting a series of pulsed voltage at a fixed/full value. As the name implies, speed is adjusted by modulating how long those pulses are. Think of it like driving by only standing on the gas pedal or being completely off the gas pedal. But you have to switch between them really really fast and choose your speed by how long each gas pedal stand is. Terrible for cars/driving but great for electric motors and actually allows finer control.
Great content as always brain but I feel the tech yes city needs to get back more to its roots of checking out ali express tech and buying rock bottle pcs fixing them and turning them over. Also I feel like you need to evolve now and maybe get someone in to do your video editing for you to free up more time so you can finally work on your soldering skills and start actually doing component repair vram change on faulty motherboard's, gpu's etc, you promised that for a while now. Either way as always loving the content. 😎
@@lilpain1997 possibly that's more of a lateral move than an upgrade, component fixing is more challenging and rewarding plus it's what he's already stated he wanted to get into in previous videos, it's just not for everyone and has a very steep learning curve. Just think how many hosed 😅 as the Ozzie's say, half dead or damaged GPU's/components he already has and comes across.
@@dazdaz2050 oh for sure I personally would love to see component fixing as I myself love to mod and fix things. And it's 100% it is far more challenging. I was just saying he has technically evolved a bit.
My 12400 doesn't go over 79 with uncapped watts in cinebench. Your curves probably aren't aggressive enough, or bad mounting / application. At 65w limit I'm comfortably around 75c and much less RPM
@@detoi4371 I'm an old school electronics guy, most electrolytics were rated to 70 or maybe 105C in some sizes.... but I do know that silicon deteriorates at a rate that is dependent on its operating temp... might not cause problems in the lifespan of the product (unless you need to use it for long). P.S> we have ambients up to 45C
I agree the 5600 is the “better deal” over the 5700x for gaming, especially when they had the sales. The 5700x is marginally better performing, so it’s an upgrade, but it is worse “value”
Sir, can you pls suggest me what should be the enough power out for phase of motherboard for this i5 13500, like is 7+1+1 vrm or 10+1+1 ? Which is enough for this cpu ? To get that max turbo
I wish Aigo still made the icy k4. I bought 2 of them, years ago, and they work great for lga 2011 systems. They looked way better than what is on offer now as well, with an all matte black finish and breathing red LEDs on the fan and surrounding the heatsink, which was much beefier than that ICE400SA at about the same size as the snowman MT4. I still have one, although I removed the heatsink LEDs after I accidentally broke the wire off 😅 There was supposedly an RGB version as well but I never found it.
I'm not sure how to exactly put this new Intel HSF on. Previous versions of the stock HSF had little arrows while this one doesn't. Do you just simply push down or do you have to turn these knobs in a direction similar to previous stock intel HSF coolers.
I'm genuinely happy the 13th gen stock cooler is perfectly usable, even as an AMD user. AMD has gone backwards by only including the Wraith Stealth on the 5600/X and 7600 while completely abandoning their wonderful Spire cooler (used on R5 1600/2600X/3600X). Hopefully competition heats up on this front and future mainstream CPUs can be used with the stock cooling without any worries and/or hassles. I built a PS5 equivalent PC late last year for myself and my brother using a R5 5600, and initially it was hitting 80C even in lightly-threaded games. Luckily, mid-2022 and later runs of this CPU are apparently great bins, and after using Curve optimizer (it ended up applying a -0.3V undervolt to the CPU at stock speeds, and months later no side effects are in sight) and tuning the system fans a bit it quite simply refuses to cross the 80C threshold, even in demanding games like Death Stranding. But I doubt the average user has the time to research all these aspects (many don't even bother to check the built-in Windows HW monitor), so yeah, good stock cooling should definitely be praised.
@@Olav_Hansen Clock stretching, maybe? There is no way the little stock cooler should be able to keep the 12400F under 80 degrees in R23. That's an AVX2 workload. Maaaaaybe in a single run where you're not reaching sustained power limits and not throttling yet. If you unlock power limits properly in your BIOS, you should see the difference.
How does this compare with a low-profile aftermarket cooler for ITX systems? Right now I'm using a 120 AIO but I really don't trust watercooling especially in a system I can't easily open up and look inside.
Just dusted off the Intel socket 775 stock cooler to use on my spare i7-2600k and Z77 Extreme6 board, which has 775 mlunt holes. The cooler's as beefy as AMD Wraith Max, and has copper core instead of just the aluminum block. Intel seriously cheaped out on their cooler with newer chipsets.
I upgraded from a 10105F to a 11400F and from 2666MHz to 3600MHz DDR4 and after running Cinebench my PC crashed and wouldn't boot. Thankfully a CMOS reset fixed it, but I am now back to the original setup. Should I attempt the upgrade again or should I replace my motherboard (H510M-E)?
I didn't hear a volume difference between the two Intel fans as much as I heard a difference in pitch. The newer one is higher pitched, so I think its running faster.
The best box cooler is the old amd 125watt box cooler. Yes the one with the optron 64 from amd. And yes it still can be use on a amd am4 and am5 socket today . And work great than the last amd box cooler for a Ryzen serie. (All Ryzen box coolers)
In the UK the 13500 is currently £250 and B760 boards start at around £105, so that's over £350 to start with. If you can't afford the 20 pounds/dollars/euros for an aftermarket cooler, then you've got your priorities all kinds of wrong. This is unless you're only going to use the stock cooler temporarily, until you get something better.
Hi Brian I've upgraded my PC over a year ago I've got a Ryzen 3 1200 CPU with a stock cooler the stock cooler overheated my CPU so I thrown it into the bin and bought a cooler master CPU fan that worked alot better I know your vid refers to Intel I was surprised with the stock cooler it came with the Ryzen 3 1200 in other words stock coolers are not very good.
Why on earth do they not come with a little packet of thermal paste to spread yourself. I was reusing my cooler and I read my new cpu came with it. Turns out it was pre spread on the cooler it came with, and it was smeared. Big waste
Koje kuciste koristis? Mozda ti treba kuciste sa boljim protokom vazduha, isto je bitno i koliko ventilatora imas na kucistu i kako su postavljeni. Mozda bi pomogla i promena termalne paste.
i5-13500 is far from being good value in my country the i5-12400 is the best value. Mboard prices are poor as well. (I miss budget boards) The stock cooler for all of the Intels is not great why even bother to include them drop the price let people buy own
Just another reason why I prefer AMD. The stock cooler they use these days is very good and it's absolutely fine I'd say up to Ryzen 5 if you don't overclock. It's a shame they don't include it with more CPUs
yes they are made by coolermaster, so quality is good actually, and its indeed good maxed 4 cores 72c with no noise heard whatsoever, it was the lowest wraith, i believe the rgb is the highest end
It's criminal Intel includes these, a stock cooler should be only included if the temps max out at 75C at full load. I get that it's not going to hit 100% usage if you're only gaming most of the time, but still, a $25 cooler is essential for these IMHO
The max temp is 100c and 75 is quite low for these cpus. My intel cpu (i5 11400F) always hits 80-85 while gaming and it's a perfectly acceptable temp. No performance issues and it has been running since 2021. And it's not criminal, so stop exaggerating! Useless comment..
@n n Maybe that is your problem? I used Intel stock cooler in the past, since SB era, 2600K and 6700K (no point in OC, since the boost is already OCing). I know how to manage the fan curve, and knows it's expected range. At 70%-90% cpu usage, steady 80C, fan is fast, but quiet enough and still within the boost range, while gaming, that is perfectly fine. My ears aren't strapped next to an open test bench. Even in a case, the sound is more of a low pitch hum. So it is definitely your issue 🤣🤣😂😂
i got 12th gen box cooler on my 12100f and i fuggin hate it and it does exactly how u described instantly ranping speeds bleh, anyway i got 240 aio on the way lol and im not too nuts next month ill update bios and insert a 13900k in same ass h610 lmaoooo
Nothing beats the Snowman
Facts. I have the MT6 Snowman version in my ITX pc rig, and it’s done a reliable and superb job in maintaining good temps of my Ryzen 3 3100 up until now. 😊
Aro M14 🦾
Sounds like the tagline for “Cocaine Bear”
lul
Still my favourite christmas film as a child
Another fantastic review as always...
"As a Mistral employee once told me, You're only as good as your fans."
TISM - "Play Mistral for Me" Machiavelli and the Four Seasons 1995
I recently built a pc with an i5-13400 with the included stock cooler. It work fine and it's very quiet even during load.
A undervolting test would be nice with the new 13th gen cooler for noise levels and wattage.
I think this could be a really good budget option
Maybe that cooler needs added 3D ram to make it work better ,, LMAO
Many thanks that you have introduced the Snowman tower cooler a few years ago and now I have bought the MT6S version of Snowman for my i7 4790 which runs cooler now (delid + liquid metal)
When you were describing the sound of the fan ramping up you started to sing the Skype ringtone
It's good to hear that the fan speed behaviour is improved. My amd PC no matter if it's stock cooler or big aftermarket cooler changes speed quite roughly, and it's noticeable. If my PC is next to me it can be annoying without headphones
thats down to your fan curve in your bios
@@RelyksJ No it isn't. Changing the speed of the fan at a given temperature doesn't change the behaviour of the CPU fan when it needs to change speed. He literally explains this in the first minute
@@stawz_Your fan curve absolutely does matter. If you set your CPU cooler to have two speeds it will make a world of difference.
Eg I set my cooler to only 30% speed up to 65 degrees so if I am doing anything light eg web browsing it is quiet. Then between 65-85 degrees it goes to 75% speed. This for when I am gaming or doing other intensive tasks, 75% is the highest tolerable speed for me. This means that the cooler isn't constantly ramping up and down, it picks one of the two speeds and sticks to it
Then for above 85 degrees it's set to 100% speed as a panic mode in case the CPU ever gets really hot for whatever reason
My 12th gen cooler performs really well! I was using a fairly well reviewed gammaxx cooler that I had to order a new bracket for, long story short there was no need to bother fitting it.
Could it be just random fans they use? Like how the Steam Deck uses different brands for the fans. Have Intel confirmed they changed the fans?
What is the point ? Cinebench R23/prime95 i5-13500 200W going to be 99C and turbo drop.
I have the same cpu, it runs to 150watts max, a quick undervolt of 0.1 volt, dropped 20-30watts and 10c temps. I suggest everyone having locked cpus to perform a undervolt. It benefits it greatly, i am already using a giant ak620 cooler to begin with.
I have an i7 gen12 and it's cooling is inadequate and noisy. Went back to get an extra case air extraction fan and it's still inadequate. Hope to get an different CPU fan ( Noctua ) when stock comes in.
You should try (if available where you live) the Thermalright Peerless Assassin. That thing is ridiculously cheap (in the US, at least) and keeps my i7 13700 under control. However, I agree, the stock cooler is laughably inadequate for an i7. Even at 65W it sounds like freaking jet engine.
@@Diegorskysp17 Yep. Thanks. Just read this. I have my CPU max state turned down to 80% to help deal with this issue. Unfortunately.
I did get a box extractor fan installed, but it didn't seem to do much.
Awesome 👍
As awesome as your channel? ;)
I just bought a Snowman MT4 for my 12100F last year because of you and it's light years better, the original cooler is really crappy and noisy.
The pitch of it sounds better even though they sound about as loud as each other
Could u make a video on how to build an low budget PC? Im not sure if i should rather buy an Xeon or an i5 2500k. Which Xeon would be best on a low budget?
Little bit of undervolt might also help significantly
Even if thermals are acceptable on a stock cooler, I would still prefer a bigger aftermarket cooler for a more quiet PC.
I 3d printed a bracket to get my old 212 Hyper Plus to fit on AM4, and it works great.
Do a video on something like the Gelid GPU cooler, because I replaced the inner fan with a high RPM Noctua and both my CPU and GPU temperatures went down a lot. My poorly cooled 6600xt now is always cool.
PWM isn't control via voltage up/down. That's DC. PWM is pulse width modulation. The device is constantly getting a series of pulsed voltage at a fixed/full value. As the name implies, speed is adjusted by modulating how long those pulses are. Think of it like driving by only standing on the gas pedal or being completely off the gas pedal. But you have to switch between them really really fast and choose your speed by how long each gas pedal stand is. Terrible for cars/driving but great for electric motors and actually allows finer control.
Great content as always brain but I feel the tech yes city needs to get back more to its roots of checking out ali express tech and buying rock bottle pcs fixing them and turning them over.
Also I feel like you need to evolve now and maybe get someone in to do your video editing for you to free up more time so you can finally work on your soldering skills and start actually doing component repair vram change on faulty motherboard's, gpu's etc, you promised that for a while now. Either way as always loving the content. 😎
Wouldn't evolving include doing other tech content which is what he is doing???
@@lilpain1997 possibly that's more of a lateral move than an upgrade, component fixing is more challenging and rewarding plus it's what he's already stated he wanted to get into in previous videos, it's just not for everyone and has a very steep learning curve.
Just think how many hosed 😅 as the Ozzie's say, half dead or damaged GPU's/components he already has and comes across.
@@dazdaz2050 oh for sure I personally would love to see component fixing as I myself love to mod and fix things. And it's 100% it is far more challenging. I was just saying he has technically evolved a bit.
Thanks for doing this one.
even the 12100 is better off with a $25 aftermarket cooler. used to see 80C+ now never going past 55C
My 12400 doesn't go over 79 with uncapped watts in cinebench. Your curves probably aren't aggressive enough, or bad mounting / application.
At 65w limit I'm comfortably around 75c and much less RPM
@@detoi4371 I'm an old school electronics guy, most electrolytics were rated to 70 or maybe 105C in some sizes.... but I do know that silicon deteriorates at a rate that is dependent on its operating temp... might not cause problems in the lifespan of the product (unless you need to use it for long). P.S> we have ambients up to 45C
no, up until 400 series its fine to even use old awful intel stock cooler, w noctua+ulna they dont even past 65c
for those who wondering these low temps can be used to oc even more, oc usually limited by either temp or the device itself
I agree the 5600 is the “better deal” over the 5700x for gaming, especially when they had the sales. The 5700x is marginally better performing, so it’s an upgrade, but it is worse “value”
Hope you check out the dual tower 6 heatpipe snowman that comes in for less than the classic snowie
Sir, can you pls suggest me what should be the enough power out for phase of motherboard for this i5 13500, like is 7+1+1 vrm or 10+1+1 ? Which is enough for this cpu ? To get that max turbo
I wish Aigo still made the icy k4. I bought 2 of them, years ago, and they work great for lga 2011 systems. They looked way better than what is on offer now as well, with an all matte black finish and breathing red LEDs on the fan and surrounding the heatsink, which was much beefier than that ICE400SA at about the same size as the snowman MT4. I still have one, although I removed the heatsink LEDs after I accidentally broke the wire off 😅 There was supposedly an RGB version as well but I never found it.
I'm not sure how to exactly put this new Intel HSF on. Previous versions of the stock HSF had little arrows while this one doesn't. Do you just simply push down or do you have to turn these knobs in a direction similar to previous stock intel HSF coolers.
I'm genuinely happy the 13th gen stock cooler is perfectly usable, even as an AMD user. AMD has gone backwards by only including the Wraith Stealth on the 5600/X and 7600 while completely abandoning their wonderful Spire cooler (used on R5 1600/2600X/3600X). Hopefully competition heats up on this front and future mainstream CPUs can be used with the stock cooling without any worries and/or hassles.
I built a PS5 equivalent PC late last year for myself and my brother using a R5 5600, and initially it was hitting 80C even in lightly-threaded games. Luckily, mid-2022 and later runs of this CPU are apparently great bins, and after using Curve optimizer (it ended up applying a -0.3V undervolt to the CPU at stock speeds, and months later no side effects are in sight) and tuning the system fans a bit it quite simply refuses to cross the 80C threshold, even in demanding games like Death Stranding. But I doubt the average user has the time to research all these aspects (many don't even bother to check the built-in Windows HW monitor), so yeah, good stock cooling should definitely be praised.
i have the exact same cpu with the stock intel cooler , and it is a very bad idea to use it , too noisy and bad cooling
My 12400f with stock cooler actually stays around 70c under cinebench r23
It might actually be that you just got a bad one when 12th gen launched.
Do you live in Alaska?
@@GameArmorGameplay I reran just to be sure... its high 70's. Still nowhere near the 90's.
And no I'm not from alaska.
There's a 99% chance you're power limited/downclocking/VRM throttled.
@@b0ne91 it's all core boosting to 3.99ghz, as per spec.
Perhaps I have a golden sample.
@@Olav_Hansen Clock stretching, maybe? There is no way the little stock cooler should be able to keep the 12400F under 80 degrees in R23. That's an AVX2 workload. Maaaaaybe in a single run where you're not reaching sustained power limits and not throttling yet. If you unlock power limits properly in your BIOS, you should see the difference.
How does this compare with a low-profile aftermarket cooler for ITX systems? Right now I'm using a 120 AIO but I really don't trust watercooling especially in a system I can't easily open up and look inside.
Can you do a review on the NEW Amazon Basics CPU air cooler for $26.99 USD?
I notice it ended up setting the fan speed manually
Nice. Good information
Just dusted off the Intel socket 775 stock cooler to use on my spare i7-2600k and Z77 Extreme6 board, which has 775 mlunt holes. The cooler's as beefy as AMD Wraith Max, and has copper core instead of just the aluminum block. Intel seriously cheaped out on their cooler with newer chipsets.
I upgraded from a 10105F to a 11400F and from 2666MHz to 3600MHz DDR4 and after running Cinebench my PC crashed and wouldn't boot. Thankfully a CMOS reset fixed it, but I am now back to the original setup. Should I attempt the upgrade again or should I replace my motherboard (H510M-E)?
Go with a B560 it works better with RAM overclocking, and they're affordable.
should i get the snowman with 1 fan or dual fans?
Love those sound effects
plz review the mobile cpu soldred motherboards that sells in aliexpress( i7 11800h or i9 11980hx) this should be interesting for the price they sell.
I didn't hear a volume difference between the two Intel fans as much as I heard a difference in pitch. The newer one is higher pitched, so I think its running faster.
The Id Cooling Se-903-sd is better than the stock cooler of a i5 13400f?
The best box cooler is the old amd 125watt box cooler.
Yes the one with the optron 64 from amd.
And yes it still can be use on a amd am4 and am5 socket today .
And work great than the last amd box cooler for a Ryzen serie. (All Ryzen box coolers)
Man i have i5 13400f and stock cooler and i have risky temperatures in nfs payback around 90-100c don't know what to do
Is the cooler that comes with the box good for gaming? ( I am not professional gamer )
Please answer my question !
In the UK the 13500 is currently £250 and B760 boards start at around £105, so that's over £350 to start with. If you can't afford the 20 pounds/dollars/euros for an aftermarket cooler, then you've got your priorities all kinds of wrong. This is unless you're only going to use the stock cooler temporarily, until you get something better.
Z690 gigabyte UD now LESS that US$ 140 here in Aus ,,,, had to grab one at that bargain price
Hi Brian I've upgraded my PC over a year ago I've got a Ryzen 3 1200 CPU with a stock cooler the stock cooler overheated my CPU so I thrown it into the bin and bought a cooler master CPU fan that worked alot better I know your vid refers to Intel I was surprised with the stock cooler it came with the Ryzen 3 1200 in other words stock coolers are not very good.
The second wooo woooo is more like Opera 😁
Most definitely: the I5 13500 CPU is a good value option for gaming and productivity.
I shouldn't need an aftermarket cooler for an i3-13100 should I?
I wonder what the bill of materials is for these things,seems to be the only thing intel optimizes for.
Why on earth do they not come with a little packet of thermal paste to spread yourself. I was reusing my cooler and I read my new cpu came with it. Turns out it was pre spread on the cooler it came with, and it was smeared. Big waste
Any idea why my pc cause the main switch in the fuse box tripping whenever i use it with a 4tb external hdd? I'm using a 750w PSU
It will be the AMD cpu or AMD gpu without any water in the vapour chamber
Its bit loud isnt it ?
Please make a video on undervolting 13500 ....
as someone who doesn't use AC and always has windows open facing a busy street, i can't relate to fan noise. all i hear is the rain and cars right now
How on earth did you get those temps in Returnal my 10600k with NH-D15 with both fans mounted is roasting at 83c while playing it...
Koje kuciste koristis? Mozda ti treba kuciste sa boljim protokom vazduha, isto je bitno i koliko ventilatora imas na kucistu i kako su postavljeni. Mozda bi pomogla i promena termalne paste.
Unless your 10600K is overclocked to the moon, it seems like you have a bad mount (or case with poor airflow). Those temps are too high for a NH-D15
@@steph_on_yt stock, mount is good, no other game push it past 60c, case is with very good airflow
Unfortunately I can't install my good old snowman cooler on the b660m Aorus Pro AX due to its massive heat sink. Good bye Snow man 😢
try keeping your cpu from overheating with a stock cooler at 2000m above sea level altitude... even the best radiators have issues around here...
Meanwhile, I zip tied an old 775 cooler from a 2009 Acer desktop PC. Ultimate bang for buck
DAE think Coolermaster nerfs the stock cooler to sell more 212s?
How about comparing with fans of the same form factor instead
what if I can MODify it & replace the fan only keeping the heatsink
Add #d cache ,, that fixes EVERYTHING ,, just ask any AMD shill :)
It would be fair to only compare it to cooler with the same height
your mic is scuffed?
No he's busy dad he just doesn't want to spend time with mounting the mic and he also use this mic on other table for content
Does this same 13th gen box cooler come with the 13100F?
YES. 13100f is NOT a good buy ,, is only a few percent faster than a 12100f and much more expensive
It’s a 12600k I would buy that over a 13500 due to you can over clock 12600k.
And 12600k has price cut ,,, last week here in Australia it was AUD $340 which is about US$230
Why don’t you take top notch air coolers Like 14 and 15 series Noctua in consideration. You can get them a little under or above €100
Bc it's a different price class and if you can afford those you wouldn't even be considering keeping the stock cooler in the first place? Smh
damn, that 's the price of a whole cpu
i5-13500 is far from being good value in my country the i5-12400 is the best value.
Mboard prices are poor as well. (I miss budget boards)
The stock cooler for all of the Intels is not great why even bother to include them drop the price let people buy own
You can MOVE
I buy cheapest BeQuite! for my i3 12100F! Working excellent and it is not big cooler.
Using stock cooler on 12400f for 2022 also 2023.
Cause i'm outta money and parents think it's waste of money.
Nothing beats wraith prism cooler when it comes to stock cooler
But so SAD what it is used to cool
I love my g6900 boxed cooler
I5 lol now try it with a i9 13900k or i9 14900k CPU I wouldn't run any of those cpus on a stock cooler i5 is baby of all cpus
The last decent box cooler Intel made was for an LGA1366 CPU. 😂
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Just another reason why I prefer AMD. The stock cooler they use these days is very good and it's absolutely fine I'd say up to Ryzen 5 if you don't overclock. It's a shame they don't include it with more CPUs
yes they are made by coolermaster, so quality is good actually, and its indeed good maxed 4 cores 72c with no noise heard whatsoever, it was the lowest wraith, i believe the rgb is the highest end
If you only do gaming and no rendering work, stock cooler is all you need.
And you only need a 1200f ,, we could keep heading south
woooh woooh woooh
Snowman is cool
people r so sensitive to cooler sound signature....... it hardly matters for me .............
No
It's criminal Intel includes these, a stock cooler should be only included if the temps max out at 75C at full load.
I get that it's not going to hit 100% usage if you're only gaming most of the time, but still, a $25 cooler is essential for these IMHO
The max temp is 100c and 75 is quite low for these cpus. My intel cpu (i5 11400F) always hits 80-85 while gaming and it's a perfectly acceptable temp. No performance issues and it has been running since 2021. And it's not criminal, so stop exaggerating! Useless comment..
Sounds like you have a cold, you should look after yourself a bit better! ;)
be aware that this salesman is not testing in a closed case....
It's rubbish's!Noctua owner. ;-)
Dont use shitty coolers - only good one. Life of your CPU will be better if is cooled propelly and super low noise with 12 cm fans
I wil never use a intel box cooler they just make to much noise . they are horrible. even this one you will hear it across the room .
lmao um box fan cooler " so 1995 " ? custom builds or any type of modern PC are better off with an AIO cooler .
Hyper 212 Halo
mine came already broken lol, its so cheaply made, they should remove it
intel mounting system is total trash - they need to go back to basic screws and backing plate which work great #we have the facts are are voting yes
If that cooler had 3D ram it would be the ULTIMATE ,, just ask any AMD fangirl
if using i3 it's just fine
@n n And you're using headset?
@n n Highly doubt you are sharing a room.
@n n lmao, says the one that really knows nothing more than me. Or maybe you are the one that knows nothing and it's more negative. 🤣😂
@n n Maybe that is your problem? I used Intel stock cooler in the past, since SB era, 2600K and 6700K (no point in OC, since the boost is already OCing).
I know how to manage the fan curve, and knows it's expected range.
At 70%-90% cpu usage, steady 80C, fan is fast, but quiet enough and still within the boost range, while gaming, that is perfectly fine.
My ears aren't strapped next to an open test bench.
Even in a case, the sound is more of a low pitch hum.
So it is definitely your issue 🤣🤣😂😂
@n n Aww, you don't need to be so insecure about your physical disabilities, like deafness and your bank account.
Wow Intel really did it this time. don't need to worry about expensive Coolers anymore
This cpu doesent even exist here
It's already here in Malaysia
So where u lived?
@@ikram2512 Serbia where X3D chips are available but intel 13th gen is nowhere
First
No u second
i got 12th gen box cooler on my 12100f and i fuggin hate it and it does exactly how u described instantly ranping speeds bleh, anyway i got 240 aio on the way lol and im not too nuts next month ill update bios and insert a 13900k in same ass h610 lmaoooo
Hope you check out the dual tower 6 heatpipe snowman that comes in for less than the classic snowie