NORTHERN ONTARIO PLANE SPOTTING! Timmins Victor M. Power Airport

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  • čas přidán 19. 01. 2022
  • Timmins Victor M. Power Airport, located in Northern Ontario, serves around 200,000 passengers a year (pre-2020), with two airlines having a base here - Air Creebec, and Thunder Airlines.
    Timmins also gets some traffic from Air Canada and Porter, both of whom fly nonstop to Toronto Pearson and Toronto Billy Bishop Airports, respectively.
    There's also some unique traffic, such as Air Creebec's Hawker Siddeley HS748, which I caught doing an engine run, along with some regular traffic during my visit in early January 2022.
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    FLIGHT INFORMATION
    00:12 - Air Creebec HS748 Engine Run
    02:13 - Air Canada Express Dash 8-400 Arrival
    03:29 - Porter Dash 8-400 Arrival
    04:44 - Air Canada Express Dash 8-400 Departure
    05:45 - Porter Dash 8-400 Taxiing
    06:15 - Air Canada Express Dash 8-300 Arrival
    08:00 - Porter Dash 8-400 Takeoff
    08:22 - Air Canada Express Dash 8-300 Departure
    11:39 - Thunder Airlines Cessna 208 Arrival
    13:24 - Thunder Airlines Mitsubishi MU-2 Arrival
    15:15 - Thunder Airlines Mitsubishi MU-2 Departure
    16:01 - Ornge Pilatus PC-12 Arrival
    17:15 - Wasaya Airways Beechcraft 1900D Arrival
    17:46 - Air Canada Express Dash 8-400 Departure
    20:24 - Wasaya Airways Beechcraft 1900D Takeoff
    20:53 - Porter Dash 8-400 Arrival
    21:53 - Air Creebec Dash 8-100 Departure
    23:18 - Porter Dash 8-400 Departure
    24:31 - Thunder Airlines King Air Taxiing
    25:23 - Air Creebec Dash 8-100 Arrival
    26:54 - Morningstar Air Express Cessna 208 Arrival
    27:25 - Morningstar Air Express Cessna 208 Departure
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    Outro song - "Take Flight" by Nyhtian: • Nyhtian - Take Flight ...
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Komentáře • 122

  • @AlexPraglowskiAviation
    @AlexPraglowskiAviation  Před 2 lety +29

    Who knew Timmins was cold in January? 😜 If you enjoyed the video, please consider leaving a like, this one was rough to film lol

    • @karlossargeant3872
      @karlossargeant3872 Před 2 lety

      Hey Alex is Karlos I Love both your Trip Reports including the planespotting in various parts of Canada with the Airports I hope to Visit there soon.

  • @kurohone
    @kurohone Před 2 lety +18

    That Dash-8 landing behind a huge pile of snow might be the most Canadian planespotting thing ever.

    • @ccudmore
      @ccudmore Před 2 lety +6

      Only if there was a moose standing on the pile of snow.

    • @happycanayjian1582
      @happycanayjian1582 Před 2 lety +4

      …and a handful of guys playing shinny on the taxiway…. “CAAAAARRRR!!!”

    • @TimSikkema
      @TimSikkema Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@ccudmore that particular runway is actually where I have seen moose more often than any other spot, ever.

  • @mikejackman4416
    @mikejackman4416 Před 2 lety +8

    Nothing like the wine of a dart on HS 748 haven’t herd one since 80s in pickle lake,,thanks

    • @happycanayjian1582
      @happycanayjian1582 Před 2 lety

      Is that red, white, or rosé? 😜 Sorry, couldn’t resist being “that guy”. Yes, the whine of those Darts is quite unique.

  • @RobEJC
    @RobEJC Před 2 lety +2

    Turboprop awesomeness!

  • @simply_aviation
    @simply_aviation Před 2 lety +14

    So awesome you went to Timmins AND made a plane spotting video there. :D Stayed there overnight on our road trip back in October, what a fun little town. Didn't even know it had an airport...

    • @HartStreet4Ever
      @HartStreet4Ever Před 2 lety +1

      Timmins Airport YTS has a cute little airport that has seen some cosmetic changes over the many decades.. back in the day before Dash 8 aircraft made theirs debut Air Canada use to fly DC-9 in and out of here.. Our two runways are long enough to land and takeoff many different types & sizes of aircraft

    • @clarkvincentga-as
      @clarkvincentga-as Před 2 lety

      By the way, he made a trip report of Air Canada Express' last Dash 8-300

  • @geordienufc3132
    @geordienufc3132 Před 2 lety +8

    Wow a Hawker-Siddley 748, that was the first aircraft I ever flew on from Lympne in Kent UK (had a grass runway) to an airport near Paris back in 1967. Never would have guessed there'd still be one flying today.

    • @TheWallygord
      @TheWallygord Před 2 lety +1

      I too remember that plane route, a 747 from Toronto then later a 748 H S to land near Paris, 50 + years ago!

    • @R.Floman63
      @R.Floman63 Před 2 lety +3

      My best friend is a senior captain on one of the Air Creebec HS748’s out of Timmins, has 10,000+ hours on them. Flown them for 20 years. They are very reliable birds, flying into gravel strips up in Canada’s north day in and out with 10,000lbs + of cargo. I used to have a King Air B100 that flew out of Timmins (YTS).

    • @kbjerke
      @kbjerke Před 2 lety +1

      You could always tell where a 748 had been parked. Red Mil-H5606 stains on the ground everywhere!!!

  • @merc340sr
    @merc340sr Před 2 lety +8

    Turboprops are such beautiful machines!...love the sound!

  • @ApexAviation9782
    @ApexAviation9782 Před 2 lety +9

    I can feel my hands hurt from how cold it is there, massive like for the dedication

  • @outaouaishockey
    @outaouaishockey Před 2 lety +2

    My request for Timmins plane spotting had been taken. Thanks for this great video

  • @stephclarke6850
    @stephclarke6850 Před 2 lety

    Your story made my local newsfeed this morning!

  • @Wolves1967
    @Wolves1967 Před 2 lety +1

    I used to catch a connection flight from Timmins to Moosonee every month when I worked in Moosonee in 1990.

  • @hydraulics
    @hydraulics Před 2 lety +3

    I flew to timmins twice one year. The first time the captain announced it was the coldest place in North America that day. The second time I went the announcement was that it was the hottest recorded temp in NA that day

  • @wolfgangbing2497
    @wolfgangbing2497 Před 2 lety +4

    That‘s weather! Beautiful video!

  • @cherifbar
    @cherifbar Před 2 lety

    Last time I was in this charming town was back when Air Canada used to fly the DC-9 into that community twice daily. Around 1985, I believe.
    Thanks for this nice video.

  • @happycanayjian1582
    @happycanayjian1582 Před 2 lety +2

    That Mitsu took off like a homesick angel…. Then again, when the weather’s that shitty on the ground, you’d want to get out of there, too.

  • @vintagesupermarkets5210

    Another awesome video Alex. Those RR Darts on the Hawker make such glorious music. Brings back fond memories of my years with First Air.

  • @mervcrowe9596
    @mervcrowe9596 Před 2 lety

    My goodness, what a gloriously wonderful winter scene airport video, yes, love turbo props and have flown on the HS 748, DASH 8-200 and Q400 and the C208. Excellent videoing and a good cross selection of types. Haven't been to this part of Ontario.

  • @PLANEMANIA747
    @PLANEMANIA747 Před 2 lety +2

    Absolutely beautiful 😍

  • @foyezhaque9440
    @foyezhaque9440 Před 2 lety

    I WAS BORN IN TIMMINS! MY DAD USED TO TAKE ME TO THE AIRPORT WHENEVER WE USED TO GET BORED

  • @ottawaemergencyvideography

    Excellent video Alex!!!❤️🇨🇦🛫

  • @paulsayer8248
    @paulsayer8248 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks again Alex, very good video. Cold out there recording these with a little wind in the sock,

  • @stephentod8299
    @stephentod8299 Před 2 lety +1

    Those early Air Creebec flights back to YMO were always chilly. Nothing like -45 wind CB I’ll walking from the terminal to the plane, door wide open, and waiting for everyone to take their seats. I always made sure I waited to the last possible moment to board.
    One cool thing with Air Creebec and Thunder Air - you don’t need to pats through security to board and just exit though the doors immediately beside the ticket counter.

  • @gmitchellfamily
    @gmitchellfamily Před 2 lety +1

    You can always tell a Porter because of the way it is. 😆

  • @yarharyar
    @yarharyar Před 2 lety

    Dude this is top notch, didn't know those tiny Mitsubishi's flew up here!

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, that brings back some chilly memories of "snowbank maintenance" working for Austin Airways ca 1977-80. Those Rolls Royce Dart engines on the HS748 are *BRUTALLY* painful, even with double earpro. My ears are still ringing. I left there to become a mechanic at deHavilland, on the Twin Otters, Dash 7s, and all the 8s. Thanks for the video!

  • @TheHDAviation
    @TheHDAviation Před 2 lety +2

    Great wintry compilation packed with tons of nice turboprop catches, that must have been some cold footage to capture!

  • @milesj6064
    @milesj6064 Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome video Alex, I love the compilation of airplanes that you chose to film, and love that you braved the snow to get some awesome winter video of de-icing and activity in the snow. A friend of mine used to work at Thunder Airlines and heard lots of stories of a few of those airplanes you had in the videos. When I heard that HS748 start it brought back memories of back in Saskatoon, as Westwind had 3 of them and every morning they would start up and fly out. Keep up the good work, love the videos from everywhere you post.

  • @colingreen1208
    @colingreen1208 Před 2 lety

    This video alone is making me fall in love with turboprops… can’t get enough!

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev Před 2 lety

    How nice to see something quite different

  • @bradcharlton9362
    @bradcharlton9362 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the memories, of sorts. I flew out of - and into - Timmins only twice, once when I was 12 and once when I was in grade 12, having just turned 18. Vic Power was the guidance counsellor at our high school and the mayor for many years, and he was a wonderful human being, even though he may have been a bit hard on his son. His son, Kevin, was in our class for about 10 years because we were all in French Immersion and classes were limited to just us. Last I heard many years ago, Kevin was literally a brain surgeon. (I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and I was never allowed to be close to my wonderful non-JW school friends.) Sad, really. BUT, the name of the airport is well-deserved. :)

  • @davidwebber8636
    @davidwebber8636 Před 2 lety

    Great work. Thanks for posting.

  • @Aleksandar6ix
    @Aleksandar6ix Před 2 lety +1

    This video truly opened my eyes to the size of some of these planes, especially the difference from Dash 8-100 to Q400! I lost my chance to fly to this airport myself...was going to do my Commercial long cross country flight here, but all my flying got cancelled for the forseeable future. I'll never fly these propliners now, and I live through my flight sim.

  • @glennknowles4020
    @glennknowles4020 Před 2 lety +1

    well for a small airport that a busy little airport lol,love snow planes shows

  • @sdflyer1725
    @sdflyer1725 Před 2 lety

    What a great video!, from the great sounds of the Darts, to a 208 plowing though the snow, many thanks for your great work!!!!

  • @9Y-PRI_Aviation
    @9Y-PRI_Aviation Před 2 lety +3

    Great Captures as usual!

  • @TimSikkema
    @TimSikkema Před 2 lety +1

    Great seeing you in Timmins! The 748s do cargo runs to communities along James Bay and to Victor Mine.

  • @frederickmoller
    @frederickmoller Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome, Alex...my home town, I didn't think that Victor M. Power Airport was that busy. I used to attend the airshows there in the 1960s as a child, my Dad wanted to become a pilot, but being a know it all punk, I became an underground miner (no regrets though)!

  • @naturallyherb
    @naturallyherb Před 2 lety +3

    Love this!

  • @MadeiraAirport
    @MadeiraAirport Před 2 lety +1

    Such cool footage of the snowy runway action, amazing scenario!

  • @ohareplanespotting
    @ohareplanespotting Před 2 lety

    Stunning!

  • @MarcvanExel
    @MarcvanExel Před 2 lety +1

    Great video and specially love the HS748 and the Dash 8-100.

    • @claudelabelle7099
      @claudelabelle7099 Před 2 lety +1

      Marc... what does the 3471 signify after your name?

    • @MarcvanExel
      @MarcvanExel Před 2 lety

      @@claudelabelle7099 to be honest, nothing at all ;)

  • @ytlaviation5409
    @ytlaviation5409 Před 2 lety +1

    Lovely

  • @davisbyer4791
    @davisbyer4791 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't believe Porter didn't take a spray. Absolute mad lads

  • @CJetsPlanespotting
    @CJetsPlanespotting Před 2 lety +1

    Lovely compilation!

  • @ericpaquin6453
    @ericpaquin6453 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video thank you for plane spotting in my town of Timmins you definitely come in the summer couple days ago a Boeing 767 landing in Timmins

  • @foxtrotalphaaviation
    @foxtrotalphaaviation Před 2 lety

    Wow those RR Dart engines are loud on the 748, cool variety of aircraft at Timmins. Great video once again Alex!

  • @ianr8538
    @ianr8538 Před 2 lety

    HI Alex. Nice to see some old and familiar aircraft. I was a Flight Service Specialist at Timmins from 1996-2002. A nice mix of IFR aircraft (DH8s, SW4, A748s, PC12, BE10) with the occasional B732, B722, A320 and CL4T in the summer fire season. Thanks for posting this.

  • @HartStreet4Ever
    @HartStreet4Ever Před 2 lety

    Thank you Alex.. I always wanted to plane spot from my local airport in Timmins.. That was an amazing capture over a couple of days..

  • @claudelabelle7099
    @claudelabelle7099 Před 2 lety

    WOW... Great video Alex.
    That HS-748 sounded like Garrett engines..
    Thanks for bringing back fond memories of my days on the ramp in CYQL working with Time Air and Canadian Regional.
    3 thumbs up.....

    • @R.Floman63
      @R.Floman63 Před 2 lety

      My B-100 was loud, but having it in YTS, the MU-2 and HS-748 put my Garretts to shame, much louder than mine. Although the Georgian maintenance guys next to the Signature FBO in YYZ used to hate when we taxied by at night and they were working with the doors open. Lots of dirty looks. I loved the B-100, it was an awesome little bird. The engine joke is the Garrett, turning kerosene into noise day in and out.

  • @nickcentrone1679
    @nickcentrone1679 Před 2 lety +1

    Alex I love you vids, I appreciate the one on the dash 8 300 at AC. Had alot of info which I love. Thanks again and I bet you froze your gibblets off in Timmins.

  • @WonderfulAircraft
    @WonderfulAircraft Před 2 lety +8

    This was a particularly cool plane spotting video of yours for me to watch as I've worked with a few of these aircraft (mainly the Mu2s, C208s and Pc-12s) at my work in YOW. Great shots as always! P.S. Anyone know why that Dash had its spoilers up right before takeoff roll at 22:44? I've seen a few classic dashes do that and I don't know why.

    • @E2Driver
      @E2Driver Před 2 lety +4

      Actually I believe all Dashes do that even the 400’s. There’s 2 separate modes for the spoilers which are ground mode and flight mode. Ground mode is selected when the aircraft is on the ground during taxi and after landing and the spoilers are always retracted. Flight mode is used for aiding in banking control during flight and for spoiler activation on landing when the power levers are brought back passed a certain position. What You noticed was the pilots selecting flight mode right before takeoff and then the spoilers automatically retracting when the power levers were advanced for takeoff power. You can see a good example of the crew selecting ground mode during the Porter Flight at 3:45 and the Creebec Flight at 25:43.

    • @claudelabelle7099
      @claudelabelle7099 Před 2 lety +2

      If memory serves me right, the reason for spoilers up at the 22:44 mark is a final check to see that the wing is free of snow or other contamination. Spoilers up in this fashion can be seen by both pilots

    • @E2Driver
      @E2Driver Před 2 lety +1

      @@claudelabelle7099 that is partially correct. The spoilers are used in that way however the inspection is typically done before the aircraft takes position on the runway and definitely way before the takeoff run.

  • @ropshubop
    @ropshubop Před 2 lety

    Thanks for weathering the… weather to show is that 300 and Hawker!

  • @brysoncarroll941
    @brysoncarroll941 Před 2 lety

    Came here to see Paul ! This is so cool 😎

  • @copa-jungle-jet4030
    @copa-jungle-jet4030 Před rokem

    That's super cold

  • @richardp1522
    @richardp1522 Před 2 lety +1

    Alex great idea to consider the regional airports like Timmins for spotting. Traffic is so totally different than the majors a very enjoyable view. Thanks

  • @CorPro
    @CorPro Před 2 lety

    Wow, who knew that joint was so busy with commuter traffic!

  • @paulfife4683
    @paulfife4683 Před 2 lety

    It’s so cool to see my co workers on one of your videos wish I was working this day. Keep up the great work love the video: update 19:10 that’s me wing walking lol

  • @h74710696
    @h74710696 Před 2 lety +1

    Alex, you should come back up to YTS in the summer. You'll find a bunch of CL 415's parked outside the MNR base at sunset when they all come to roost for the night.

  • @zigarten
    @zigarten Před 2 lety

    That Thunder mits can do some speed eh? Wowzers

  • @rolandvachon9848
    @rolandvachon9848 Před 2 lety +1

    Yep, no covered gates in my home town, lol. Welcome to Timmins in January.

  • @kauaiphotography
    @kauaiphotography Před 2 lety

    Aloha Alex! Always enjoy your videos. Wow that first plane brought me back to the Japan made YS-11 plane that was used here in Hawaii back in the 80's? It was being flown by Mid Pacific Air to hop between the islands and I believe you could buy coupons for as low as $20! My mom, who is originally from Japan, was very familiar and proud of flying on a Japan made plane. Still love the sound of the engines, just like the old Boeing 737-200's, a very unique sounding engine. Mahalo for your hard work in producing content. Thomas

  • @norsemandriver2387
    @norsemandriver2387 Před 2 lety +1

    The MNR Twin Otter on floats is one of 3 in the world that are water bombers.

  • @mapleleafaviation304
    @mapleleafaviation304 Před 2 lety +1

    I guess if you are both into the Canadian wilderness and aviation I find this is the exact place to be! Love your planespotting videos, especially some of the catches on planes we don’t get to see everyday! ❄️

  • @michaelsloan9085
    @michaelsloan9085 Před 2 lety +1

    My home airport

  • @mhubbell9409
    @mhubbell9409 Před 2 lety

    Man, you gotta want to do some plane spotting.

  • @jessevermeulen7446
    @jessevermeulen7446 Před 2 lety

    That Mu-2 flew into YZR a few years ago when I was a fresh hire on the fuel truck. Well, the pilot failed to mention in time that those wingtip tanks are pressurized. I suspected something was up when the cap hissed at me when I cracked it open. Apparently I didn't let it depressurize enough cause when I turned it an inch open the cap ended up taking off across the ramp. Thankfully the pilot didn't see and I learned my lesson for the next cap on the other wing.

  • @WonderfulAircraft
    @WonderfulAircraft Před 2 lety +1

    Didn't know Thunder Airlines had 208s. Only ever worked with their noisy ass MU2s lol. I've fueled C-FRWK quite a few times actually.

  • @christophercddelrosariocoish

    Did you see any Fairchild Swearingine Metroliner 3 in Timmins? That’s from YQT (Thunder Bay)

  • @dnoel11
    @dnoel11 Před 6 měsíci

    Canada is the home of turboprop!

  • @akana_
    @akana_ Před 2 lety

    Man… a HS748… haven’t seen one of those in months, sometimes we get them here in Vancouver, but they’re hard to find.

  • @andrewwu6283
    @andrewwu6283 Před 2 lety

    The MU2 is insanely loud and difficult to fuel as well ( i work out of Porter FBO) and requires full hearing protection if you are marshalling it out

  • @vulpesee9813
    @vulpesee9813 Před 2 lety

    You should go to Sudbury next.

  • @kenbarthSimAV8tor
    @kenbarthSimAV8tor Před 2 lety

    Any West Coast floatplane trips? Harbour Air electric Beaver? Thanks for the vids!

  • @TriStarIII
    @TriStarIII Před 2 lety

    Shania Twain comes to mind..

  • @frederickmoller
    @frederickmoller Před 2 lety

    Alex, do you know what the replacement aircraft is, as with my limited computer searches, I can't find this out? Another great video sir, also I am only interested in propeller driven aircraft, jets do not spark my interests in the least.

  • @zigarten
    @zigarten Před 2 lety

    No Moose, but I did hear a raven! lol, close enough?

  • @j_london9791
    @j_london9791 Před 2 lety

    Didn’t think Fed ex had planes that small.Also does Bearskin Airlnes not fly out of Timmins or are they only North Bay and Sudbury?Great video.

  • @MarkBrandonAviation
    @MarkBrandonAviation Před 2 lety +1

    This looks familiar.

  • @stanleovart
    @stanleovart Před 2 lety +1

    What is that thing on the front glass of cockpit of the Cessna 208B of ThunderAirlines - is that glass heater or smth? COOL SPOTTING! I would say FREEZING )

    • @CorPro
      @CorPro Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, that is for when a plane hits icing conditions, that little thing keeps a clear spot on the windshield for the last part of an approach to insure that minimums on an approach can be observed.

    • @stanleovart
      @stanleovart Před 2 lety

      @@CorPro wow, interesting technical decision. Thank you!

  • @janiewesley1600
    @janiewesley1600 Před rokem

    👋

  • @peterfrenzel1826
    @peterfrenzel1826 Před 2 lety

    wow....so much traffic there, did you stay there a week to film all that ?

  • @andrewohare8550
    @andrewohare8550 Před 2 lety

    Didn't know Timmins airport was this busy. How many people be travelling up there

  • @rscott2247
    @rscott2247 Před 2 lety

    Say ever thought of doing Yellowknife ?

  • @cfwsx
    @cfwsx Před 2 lety

    i am surprised those hawkers still fly!

  • @cherifbar
    @cherifbar Před 2 lety

    Sure is much busier then I remember. Is that airport still uncontrolled or have they put a tower there now?

  • @camileshakakeesic4421

    Hi alex hope you get a chance to visit a other air port in Ontario sioux lookout

  • @Atite_Lometen
    @Atite_Lometen Před 2 lety

    14:11 wow was that Mitsubishi coming down fast or was it a normal landing? I know nothing about that plane

  • @9751asd
    @9751asd Před 2 lety

    Theres only 2 HS-748 flying in Canada and Air Creebec has both of them

    • @bradleymacklin7896
      @bradleymacklin7896 Před 2 lety

      Wasaya Airways runs two out of YPL as well.
      C-GMAA and C-GLTC.

  • @rolandvachon9848
    @rolandvachon9848 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey, that's a Dehavilland 300. I thought AC was done flying them.

  • @tonykraychy222
    @tonykraychy222 Před 2 lety +1

    Just before I started this video I turned up the volume, then I promptly turned down the volume.

  • @bluedevil937
    @bluedevil937 Před 2 lety

    Which of Thunder's planes is your favourite? Choose carefully I fly one of them!

  • @alaingagne8207
    @alaingagne8207 Před 2 lety

    On what day did you get the footage of the MU2?

  • @AccessAir
    @AccessAir Před 2 lety

    It's too bad the HS-748 didn't takeoff. Nothing like one of those making that special RR Dart noise that they do!!

  • @airdad5383
    @airdad5383 Před 2 lety

    Not many 748s left flying in the world anymore. I think Canada is the last country flying them.

  • @Ozinater
    @Ozinater Před 2 lety +1

    If you've been within 500 metres of a Mitsubishi MU2 at ground idle, you may be entitled to financial compensation...

  • @Chilton1987
    @Chilton1987 Před 2 lety +1

    You were in my town! Pretty boring, eh?

  • @KhanRealness
    @KhanRealness Před 2 lety +2

    goodness the hawker is unbearable to hear even through the video

    • @AirShark95
      @AirShark95 Před 2 lety

      I had the "pleasure" of hearing one in Iqaluit back when First Air used to fly them up north. Between the 748 and the JT8Ds of the classic 737 and 727s, I'm pretty sure that one day spent on the tarmac at YFB gave me tinnitus!