To add a little context, dude was a doordash/ubereats driver and was picking up food when the "prank" started. Unfortunately there is a lot of violence towards delivery drivers so he probably legitimately thought this dude was going to rob/hurt him.
yeah speaking as a 5'6" 112 lb woman, I'd almost certainly react to a dude this size getting this close to me and following me around as though it were an assault, and the taser would probably at least come out, so I'm not surprised even another dude who was significantly shorter than him would feel this threatened
I known two people who've been mugged. And both of them have said the same thing - "This is what it looks like when you're about to get mugged." They were totally in this guy's side for self defense. The other guy was a douche.
Exactly. Theyll get up on you real quick and if so, youve lost your chance to defend yourself. There is no reason someone should be getting this close to you.
@@Kr4v3rd yeah people forget not all shitty people come at you with violence at first, i was almost stabbed and robbed in las vegas once when i was drunk and they came at me laughing and pretending i was their new buddy..... Until the second they got me off the main road, then they beat my ass and pulled a knife, i somehow drunkenly ran away.
Classic people from the US thinking any reason is a good reason to shoot someone. That's why gun violence became the number one cause of death amongst young people recently you know
The audacity to vow to CONTINUE to do stupid pranks after getting shot for one is just astounding. No lesson to be learned here, just natural selection.
You obviously didn't attend university. You really don't understand how the court system works. You made up an entire story in your head that isn't based on a single facts. You must be MAGA. Your feelings ain't facts. They never will be.
Common sense doesn't identify "harassing" when its from a stranger. If a stranger invades your personal space and starts doing weird shit all you're gonna think is they're trying to rob, kidnap or murder you.
@@HamuraiJack29 just cause they say they werent doesnt mean it didnt look or feel like they werent, dont shove your shit in some elses face when they clearly dont want it.
This is the perfect example of "fuck around and see what happens" ever. This guy has probably pranked so many people he deemed defenceless and believed that his 6'5 stance made him untouchable. You can tell just from the way he acts, dresses and his mother and father's attitude to the whole situation that this kid made others in high school's lives a living hell and got away with it.
@@yeturs69420 no no I'm with raskol, the other man just wrote an atrocity and you are trying to let him get away with it? You are worse than the prankster.
@@toml1446because he shot inside a mall, if this happened outside in an empty parking lot it would have been a different case, self defense is very hard but he won't be in jail any longer than 2 years if he got parole
Exactly, like if a stranger walks away telling you to stop, what other meaning could the word possibly have in that context… keep doing it? Sure, if you’re asking for either a beating or lead in your gut.
You don’t get to shoot somebody for sticking a phone in your face for a few seconds. Crazy how it’s now normal to shoot people over anything. The guy was an annoying pest of course but I don’t see why a gun needed to be used.
Yeah it's normal to snap. That's why the whole prankster category exists in the first place, exploit reactions for content. It's definitely not normal to jump from saying "stop" a couple times to pulling out a gun and instantly shooting someone in a shopping center.
Theres a difference between snapping like shouting back at him or even punching him, vs snapping by pulling out a loaded firearm and shooting him in a public place. The prankster is a massive dickhead and I don't feel sorry for him as he put himself in that situation, HOWEVER the other guy definitely did overreact by pulling out a gun. Pulling out a gun only massively escalates the situation, the only time where it is justifiable to draw a gun is if you are in genuine fear for your life. Yes the prankster was harassing him and getting in his face but it looks like they were in a public food court in broad daylight, I dont think that counts as a life threatening situation. I doubt that other guy was in a very stable state of mind considering how quickly he resorted to just shooting him. If people went around shooting every asshole who got in their face, that would just cause alot more problems.
"He only tells him a couple of times to stop" Bro it shouldn't take more than one. If you're harassing someone and physically touching them without their consent, they shouldn't need to tell you to stop at all, let alone more than once. Bad take.
1. they never touched the shooter. 2. call the police, that's what their for. 3. you had the audacity to tell Penguinz0 he made a bad take, expect to see your address online.
@@infinitehexingtonHarassment is harassment regardless of physical contact. Bro is a doordasher and was approached by two large morons in a public space, shoving a phone in his face and getting uncomfortably close. Fuck around and find out. For your third point the only thing I expect is your lack of bitches.
I think a massive 6'5 stranger physically intimidating you along with his friends and pursuing you after you tell him to stop multiple times while trying to get away is a dangerous situation. The jury agreed.
@@EveTheRaviolo10 seconds of an escalating situation can go very south.. Anyone who has been in a life-threatening situation understands this. Fight or flight is an involuntary response for a reason: survival
One slightly different perspective. I’m a delivery driver as well. It is a job that you are targeted for muggings a lot. The number one thing that is a tell tale sign that something is up is people acting weird. I 100% understand why he shot him. I probably thought tanner was distracting him from the real threat.
This!!! When I saw that the guy was delivery driver, I just thought "The dude thought he was getting jumped at the mall"... People are not taking the guy's job into consideration...
I drove long haul for 30 years and most companies don't allow you to carry firearms. I did it anyway, along with pepper spray and a large dog. and all of those items came in handy at some point. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. People are strange and when they are REALLY acting strange, you better pay attention.
People don't realize how much harassment delivery drivers can face. It can be a dangerous job, almost at least once a month it seems like I read a story about a delivery driver getting blasted or robbed for no good reason.
I completely agree with self defense, you couldn't tell he had a gun so how do we know the prankster isn't armed? It's not my job to assume everyone coming up to me in a malicious manner is unarmed
Nor is it your job to assume an unarmed person way bigger than you won't just beat you to death if you let them. You're completely right. Even I can't be sure he wasn't gonna try to hurt him & I saw the video.
" It's not my job to assume everyone coming up to me in a malicious manner is unarmed" You're not allowed to shoot them all. Are firearms toys to you? Do you understand that being shot can kill someone? It's not a video game.
@@neutrino78x then what good are self defense rules ? It is only applied under very specific circumstances and he did say someone is approaching WITH MALICIOUS MANNERS. It's totally reasonable to assume someone with such manners poses a great threat to you, unarmed or not. So, in case you can't evade or evasion does little to no help, correct me if I'm wrong but firing under such a stage of a continuing threat, is acceptable.
@@laikhoabang "It is only applied under very specific circumstances and he did say someone is approaching WITH MALICIOUS MANNERS" Nah they were just annoying him by playing an annoying noise on their cell phone. If you don't have the maturity to talk through a shopping center and have normal things happen to you without killing someone, you don't need to be carrying a gun.
"Guess you'll just have to watch" No thanks Tanner. I'll just watch the news for an update on the next time you scare someone so bad they feel the need to take potentially deadly action.
Which will probably be a couple months later seeing as this guy has made it beyond CZcams and now anytime he pranks someone they can just go "Hey ain't you the guy that got shot and the shooter got away with it in self defence? BANG!"
Well, Charlie... Saying "Stop" a couple of times should be enough deterrent for someone to cease and desist from encumbering your personal space. Things went 0 to 100 really quick? Yes. Bloke had it coming? Also, yes.
@@Dark-ql7kn you can call the cops or defend your self with non-lethal force(Hands, Pepper Spray, ect). harassment alone isn't a legal justification for lethal force.
I disagree with you on that he shouldnt have shot. Its been well documented that someone with a knife will beat the average person off the draw within 21 feet. On top of that the man harassing him was much larger. The delivery guy had no idea if the attacker was on drugs or mentally ill and things can go down in an instant. He asked multiple times for him to back away and he didnt.
Theres hasnt been much news from that sewer rat so i assumed he's dead without a trace ? Also, a prank would consist a huge camera crew not a couple of goons with a phone
@@infinitehexington I mean, if a stranger aproaches you with his friends, you don't know who they are or what they're doing, start invading your personal space, and don't stop when you ask, yeah, you would probably feel threatened, and with reason.
@@infinitehexington delivery drivers get mugged so often, it's really not unreasonable to assume that someone getting into your personal space, not leaving even after you say stop, then keeps following you, has malicious intent. Not to mention he was larger than him, with another person as well. I have no idea why it's so hard to understand
It should be mentioned the prankster guy approached him with 2 of his friends too. That by itself to a stranger could signal danger . If 3-4 guys walk up to me and seem to be getting that close I could easily see that going south
@@jojobod There is that yes it is a good point. Hard to really judge without being that person in that situation. Perhaps just pointing the gun and requesting him to leave might have worked. But the way he ignored all requests to leave the person alone he continued to stalk them staring at them.
@@geehammer1511 okay, but all they had was a phone… They did nothing to engage, there was zero reason to immediately open fire without warning. That’s deranged behavior.
People don't even know what the hell a prank is anymore, and that's the fucked up part. Invading people's personal space and running up on them with little warning is not a prank, it's an invitation to get your shit pushed in.
Did I mention anything about legality? People will do what they feel is necessary to protect themselves whether the law is on their side or not.@@samscholz5024
Someone who's personal space is invaded so often and so aggressively with the aggressor not accepting a no should be able and allowed to acts of self defense
For future reference: "doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result" is not the definition of insanity. It's just a very well written and timed line from Far Cry 3, which many people now assume to be true. Edit: apparently the quote was not exactly from FC3, it's been attributed to Albert Einstein (likely falsely, like so many "Einstein quotes"). Regardless, it is not the definition, but rather a philosophical stance on instanity.
It's not just that Tanner doesn't realize he sucks enough to be shot. The fact that the majority of the internet community, and even the jury themselves, also ALL agreed that his being shot was justified, ought to be be a serious learning & growth moment for him.
@@burp2019 If you point a gun at someone and fire it your intention is to kill. That's gun knowledge 101. That guy definitely had no business shooting the guy and I'm not one to defend asshole prank channels.
@@mikeyeetDo I think it’s a reasonable response? Probably not. Would I do the same? Probably not. Do I think this prankster dipshit is a waste of space and I wouldn’t miss him? Yes. Maybe I’m a psycho, oh well.
As someone who has had to pull my gun multiple times to stop would be muggers I'd have done the same thing. You never know what's going to happen and after several warnings you don't back off, I'm going to defend myself.
This is a infuriating situation. Lots of people are reporting on him being acquitted and that's great. But the prosecution is still holding him on discharging a firearm in public. Dudes bin in jail for 6 months cause of this bull crap.
Do you, like, just walk around looking for reasons to kill people? A firearm is deadly force. A man could be dead right now. For what, for annoying someone?
@@neutrino78xfor a super imposing dude and multiple friends to surround, get in personal space, and harass? For sure it was justified. They were acting like they were going to mug/rob or do something worse to him not “prank”. Also delivery drivers are very commonly targeted for mugging. It’s not just this dude that’s there
@@SpecHallenbeck "for a super imposing dude and multiple friends to surround, get in personal space, and harass? For sure it was justified" No, man. That kind of thing happens at malls at the time. Just keep walking. Disappointed that human life doesn't seem to mean much to you.
@neutrino78x That there are people out there for which life means so little makes a group of men suddenly harassing someone alone seem more sinister, no? This is a pretty common tactic for mugging. Someone gets in front of you to make you stop instinctively, and then you get surrounded and shook down. If you wait until your muggers are in position then you risk getting disarmed or restrained as they grab one arm each. All of them were already way too close. So I can see it as inherently threatening being flanked like that since as a non-American it looked like the start of a robbery to me. What other plausible reason would someone have to act like that? Prank wasn't even in my radar of possible reasons. I personally know of people that got robbed in crowded malls so it being in a public place like that doesn't mean it couldn't be a robbery in progress.
Call me paranoid, but I'd been immediately terrified by someone doing that. I've heard cases where people shove phones into stranger's faces out of the blue, or do something otherwise distracting (usually harassment). And while they do that, their buddies jump/pickpocket/straight up cart away things the stranger is now distracted from noticing/too confused to react yet to.
That was also my thought. I would immediately think they try to rob me or steal from me. And because Ei actually got robbed once because I was to nice I’m straight up punching everybody that makes me feel uncomfortable in that way
Honestly what are the chances there’s a CZcams prankster in Virginia of all places? I agree with you, I’d be a bit freaked out if people walked up harassing me with a phone.
He wasn't just being annoying, he had a group of 3 people bigger than the guy corner him, refuse to leave him alone, and followed him after multuple vocal and physical attempts to get them to stop. that isna very dangerous situation to be put in without your knowledge.
Sorry Charlie, I disagree with this take. This guy has every right to believe he was in danger. According to court documents, before those "20 seconds," Tanner and his friend were supposedly following him for almost 5 minutes. Also, yeah, Colie only gave the guy a "couple warnings," but he also tried to escape and was pursued. While I ultimately think Colie acted in haste, I think the issue is whether it was reasonable to conclude that Tanner intended bodily harm or not.
I can understand that. But they were also in a populated, well-lit shopping center. I can totally see being afraid and put-off by this stranger and his cronies following you around. But that’s cause to shove the guy, or maybe throw a punch *before* you pull a piece and shoot him right there. I can totally understand the guy giving *a* response to the situation, I just think the one he chose was really not what was necessary
@@ianbyrne465 I said I still think Colie was out of line. My issue with Charlie was his characterization of Colie's reaction. "Colie didn't really meet the threshold for self-defence," and "It is reasonable for Colie to conclude he was in danger" can both be true. I think they are both true btw. Colie definitely had reason to believe the use of force was justified, and definitely had reason to believe an imminent act was pending. Problem is VA differentiates between plain ol' bodily harm and serious bodily harm, and I don't think Tanner hits the "serious bodily harm" mark... Like, at all. That being said, I don't think it being well-lit or populated matters. Also, unfortunately, punching or shoving is just a bad idea in this context. It's the unfortunate reality of how most of assault law is interpreted in America and the fact VA does not require a person retreat. See Tanner has a right to self-defense too, and VA is a stand your ground state. So if Colie escalated the violence first through a punch, any further use of self-defense must consider Tanner's actions as a response to Colie's escalation. Honestly, Colie probably should have just continued to try to separate and told Tanner he is carrying while moving his hands to unholster (but not withdraw) the firearm. It's not the smart thing to do in many situations, but here I think it would have been Colie's best move because it makes the situation unambiguous to Tanner.
@@ianbyrne465nah. If you feel threatened enough to hit him, that’s generally good enough to shoot. Say he had thrown a punch instead. What does he do when he gets jumped on by three dudes, one of which towers over him? Little late to go for the gun then. It’s a shitty situation, but I’d prefer to live in the world where this doesn’t happen because people don’t act like assholes rather than the one where this doesn’t happen because nobody is willing to defend themselves.
It's easy from the comfort of your studio to say what the right course of action is when you are not the one on that situation. If you've been the victim of abuse or violent assault in the past and a fool like this rolls up on you, your sense of safety disappears immediately. It's very frightening and expecting someone to weigh their legal options in high stress situations like this is hardly rational.
This dude hasn't been disciplined once by his parents, NOT once. You can tell this is the kind of kid who instigates another kid to do wrong, gets in trouble at school, and his mom defends him saying "My baby boy wouldn't do that, he's an angel" in her own selfish bubble of denial about her son's behavior.
If you want your child to live up to the age of 30, teach them life lessons such as, DON’T HARASS RANDOM STRANGERS. And let’s be honest here, he probably looked up “social experiments” when he was like, 13? And though, “hey, let’s do this, but make a bigger, if not stupider mistake than theirs!”
Stop with this nonsense. I was only hit once by my parents and it was because I insulted another kid that provoked me. If that didn't happen I would have never been hit by my parents. You know why I wasn't going around abusing other kids that did nothing wrong to me? Because I wasn't born that way. My dad was also only hit once by his dad and that happened because of their political disagreement. The fact that scumbags and pranksters are the way they are usually has nothing to do with them being disciplined or not, people like this are either born this way, or something went wrong in the early developmental stage when they were toddlers. I wish bullies like him do get shot, there is no such thing as rehabilitation for people like him. They are born this way, or something went wrong very early on in their life and they will be fcked up for life.
Well if this guy ends up getting himself killed over a future prank, I hope when people ask his murderer why he done it, he just responds with, "Huh, I don't know. I guess it was just God's plan."
As someone with severe social anxiety, being approach by two complete strangers of massive stature out of nowhere and being harassed by them like that... I can absolutely understand that you'd do anything to get out of a situation like that. Especially in a country where it's not too uncommon to be assaulted in the public.
That's fucking insane you realize that? Grow some balls my god. Prolly would shoot someone over being asked what time it is because of their "social anxiety"
First time I really have to say your wrong charlie, he asked them several times. That guy wasn't backing off he was getting closer. Seriously that prankster is an inhuman monster.
I see a lot of comments suggesting that pulling the weapon without firing to attempt to get the aggressors to back off would have been a better way to have handled the situation. If you have been through the training to obtain a concealed carry permit (I have), you are told that you absolutely never do this. You are trained that you never pull your weapon until you are sure that you have no option but to use deadly force to protect yourself from death, grievous bodily harm or sexual assault (the standard in my state, very similar in most states). Also, the self defense argument is normally only allowable if you are not the aggressor. Using the firearm to attempt to frighten your attacker away could possibly make you the aggressor in the eyes of a jury and invalidate your claim of self defense if you ultimately did shoot. Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion on the morality of when shooting another person is justified, but in this case after reviewing the evidence and having the applicable law explained to them by the judge the jury determined that the criteria for using deadly force in self-defense had been met.
That approach did not go well at all for the so-called "Chipotle karen," a pregnant woman whose car was being blocked by a band of screaming women who would not move or get back away from her. She was trying to leave. They kept following her, screaming, aggressively approaching her, and blocking her way so she could not get out of the parking lot, yet she is the one the internet mobs called "unhinged" for just trying to leave a restaraunt.
“He only tells him a couple of times to stop” hello?! Stop means stop?! As a society have we really strayed this far? As a woman, if the man being harassed was a female, there’d be a completely different out cry.
@2:10 It was not an unhinged response. Two people are encroaching on him physically, talking insane gibberish, and posing an imminent threat. The victim made it clear he felt threatened by verbally telling these two to stop and they ignored his requests. In this day and age of political violence, insurrection, violence against law enforcement, over reactions by law enforcement (George Floyd, Breanna Taylor), inaction from law enforcement (Uvalde), school shootings, mass shootings, responding to the victims of mass shootings as if they are actors in a "false flag" operation and harassing them, insane conspiracies, kidnappings, and untreated mental illness, it is not unreasonable to see someone behaving the way that this "prankster" did as an imminent threat. It was made clear to him multiple times that the victim did not want to interact with him. No matter the context f the interaction, prank or not, no reasonable person would continue to encroach upon or speak to someone who has clearly informed them their actions are unwelcome.
In a world that made sense, this would be a watershed moment for prank youtubers to not do this anymore, but the fact that he vowed to keep doing it tells me that clout is a drug that takes more lives than fentenyl
@@Someone-sc2hk But he’s not wrong. Have you not seen prank channels? I’ve seen a case of a guy getting killed by his girlfriend with a deagle for some kind of “challenge”. Clout *_is_* one helluva drug.
@@Mandate_of_Heaven granted, he isn't the only one that does dumb "pranks" like this, but if you think about it, how many "prank" channels have you really seen? I'm betting 100 at MOST
Weird part is Colie’s defense for little to no jail time would be pointing to Turner and pointing out he feels zero remorse or responsibility. That he is without a doubt going to go out and do the thing which caused another to fear for their life so much they shot him…all over again.
Nah two dudes walking up and doing that bullshit, you don't know if they are about to start swinging or they have a friend thats gonna jump you while youre distracted. This could absolutely be taken as a possibly life threatening situation. I live in a place where if anyone does this to you there is something bad or violent about to happen.
Dude said "stop" loud and clear so many times, pushed his phone away, and then reached for his pocket. Anyone with more than two braincells rattling in their head like a pair of peas in a tin can could have processed what was happening. And the fact that he's willing to go out and get shot again tells me that maybe two is a generous number.
@@_me___No it’s a general rule that if you pull it out you better be ready to fire it. Maybe he shouldn’t have been shot but maybe he should leave people alone. I grew up in area where he would have got shot doing the first prank he ever did doing shit like that
His mom in that interview told me everything I need to know. When you get a slap on the wrist for everything and have all your necessities met, there is no consequences and self actualization is all that matters.
2:15 No, this is not an unhinged response, when three men approach you and start harassing you and keep following you after you repeatedly tell them to go away, it is self defense at that point
What do you mean keep following him after he repeatedly told them to go away? Your acting like it was a long period of time. There was quite literally 5 seconds between the first time he says stop and when he shoots him.
no it's not lol. in the mall, in public, in broad day while having one guy in your face with two guys behind him no matter how much you want it to be is not justifiable as self defense
@@thecoolestofthe834s2 He shoots the guy literally right after the point where Charlie cuts the video off. Why are you making shit up about him sitting down at a table?
A news article states that they stalked and was staring at the Door Dasher for a solid 60-90 seconds, before they made contact. Idk about you, but that shit is sketchy and would have me on high alert. We have limited information in the moment, none of us here would know it's a prank. None of us know their intention. But it looks like a bunch of assholes who won't leave a guy alone after they stalked him. DoorDasher's reaction seems sound to me.
I used to live in Philadelphia and if someone started doing something like this I would be suspicious that they were setting me up for a robbery. Someone doing something bizarre can be a distraction for someone else to come up behind you.
I agree with the jury saying it's self defense. they guy is not only following a stranger around, he's also repeatedly putting himself close to the person which is typical behavior of someone who wants to harm somebody. He's standing so close that the other guy is almost close enough to grab his phone, which is definitely close enough for someone to start punching or tackling somebody. The whole thing could have been done without standing so close.
As a person with severe anxiety disorder and PTSD, What that youtuber did is not just aggravating, it's terrifying. You can tell the man is afraid. We have to remember everyone doesn't think and feel the way.
I suffered from severe C-PTSD that created an unholy co-morbid condition with Borderline Personality Disorder, and funny enough, the worst years I had with it were when I lived literally just 10 minutes away (Reston, VA) from where this happened (Dulles, VA) - and even though that's a NICE area where he's pulling this douchebaggery, that unfortunately does not magically change the fact that you're suffering from a *severe* mental injury that alters your perception of reality and everyone around you. I could _instantly_ see something in the victim that reminded me of myself back then, and if I had been in his shoes, I probably would have done the same. It's sickening that CZcams is letting that asshole keep his channel, nevermind that he absolutely should have been hit with more severe legal ramifications.
Then the man shouldnt be having a gun, also with severe anxiety and PTSD i dont think you'd even be able to have one legally. So what if he's afraid? Being afraid doesnt justify the shooting, A robber could be afraid of a homeowner and shoot him cause of his fear, does that mean he should get away with it? "We have to remember everyone doesn't think and feel the way" thats only brought up when its convenient, You dont see anyone saying that about the prankster or his actions.
@@BasicallyBasic990A robber shooting the owner of the house he has broken into certainly should not get away with the shooting or the robbery. I think you may have miscontrued the comment.
@@Kevin-if6vp that's not the point, the point is how people configure fear into a crime, but they only do it when the crime is looked as justified in there eyes. Maybe get rid of the robber example and move to another one, another good one could be a guy fearing his life from somebody on the street, If were bringing fear into the question then the man should get away with it. The point im trying to make and really wonder is why do people only bring up fear when its convenient, and why do people only apply it when the crime in question is looked up upon
To Charlie: If I remember the story correctly it was stated it was not their first time messing with Cullie. From what I gathered is they thought he was an easy target, and had harassed him multiple times in the past. He had enough and we see the result that followed.
But but but...we must defend bullies! Honestly if that is true, then F the prankster even more, he was just bullying, bullies may find out the hard way what will happen when someone had enough and no one should ever defend the bullies, ever.
Funnily enough that would actually make the shooting less justified under the law. He would actually be guilty under that situation. As a stranger is obviously more threatening than a known entity. (Just to clarify the jury found the shooting justified but essentially claimed it shouldn’t have happened in a mall which isn’t how that law works which is what the hearing is about.
@@dragonlogos1 That's not how the law works. Self defense is self defense, retaliation against known individuals versus a stranger doesn't really matter except to the specifics of the case. Known individuals can be harassers, stalkers, etc. Strangers can be those things as well. Whether or not one knows the individual is one of a thousand things analyzed in cases, it's not a make or break part of the case. Also fuck these types of pranksters. These aren't even pranks, it's just douchebaggery.
I'm not going to argue on the self-defense charge but, on the 2nd charge I agree with Colie's lawyers on this one. If the jury rules that he was justified in acting in self defense by firing the gun how can you then find him guilty of discharging a firearm in a public place?? If he hadn't needed to act in self defense the gun never would've been fired.
@@JTheraos But, that appears to be exactly what happened, from the ABC news story, written by Matthew Barakat, on this: "Colie pleaded not guilty and said he was acting in *self defense.* The verdict came Thursday after about five hours of deliberation. Three hours in, the jury sent out a note saying it was “divided in terms of whether the defendant acted in *self defense.”* Loudoun County Circuit Court Judge Matthew Snow called the jury back into the courtroom around 3:30 p.m. and urged them to continue deliberations, a standard admonition given to juries that indicate they are deadlocked. The jury then delivered its verdicts at the end of the day. Colie's defense attorney, Adam Pouilliard, said the conviction on the firearms charge is inconsistent with the law, given Colie's *acquittal on self defense grounds.* He asked the judge to set aside the conviction. A judge will hear arguments on the issue at a hearing next month."
@JTheraos He was charged, but he was aquitted by a jury. It all went to trial and he was found innocent. The 2nd charge is clearly just the DA trying to charge him for the same action twice. It's funny how so many people are claiming so much shit about the case when the courts outright prove them wrong.
I live in NW Florida. Each time I discover new and deplorable behavior coming from these so-called pranksters, I ask myself "How have they not been shot?".
@@dickjohnson9582 I'm sorry bro but firing on a guy for some light harrasement isn't defending yourself, and you're putting everyone at risk since he was in a crowded area, he could have killed someone by firing like that when he was not in direct danger
The man's sentence sets and extremely dangerous precedent. The courts found that he was justified in his self-defence, but also that him shooting into an empty part of a mall was a crime because there were people nearby and it's an enclosed space. This means if there is a school shooter and you are in the school with them and shoot them to defend yourself and everyone else, you can be charged and potentially sentenced to 2-10 years in prison because you shot in an enclosed space with people around. That's really such an insane precedent.
he is just in character brudda.. he is an entertainer... and entertanner if you will. he is doing what he set out to do, sure he didnt set out to get shot but he doesnt regret it either... he got shot and was walking the next day.... OOOOO big deal..... like truly confused why yall think this is gonna change anything about him, he says in his videos he knows he may get shot or beat up but he still does it. he didnt even want to press charges but the mall is pursing the charges.
The way those two guys ran up on him so aggressively and shoved stuff in his face really feels a lot like a prelude to getting robbed. The shooting makes sense in that context, especially since he was on a delivery.
That's exactly how muggings usually work: Upstanding Citizen #1 approaches you to distract or annoy, and once you're focused on him, his crew emerge from their hiding spots to take you down without a fight. The moment the second guy came out, that made the nature of the implied threat all but unmistakable.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy Especially when the second dude got as close as he did, they were all up in dude's personal space and people don't get that close just for shits and giggles in most cases
"ran up"?? "aggressively"?? Did you watch the video ro do you just need glasses? People genuinely imagining a whole fictional scenario to justify attempted murder for being mildly annoyed
As always, a really well-done analysis! I'd just add, I saw the 'prank' video from a different angle, and that Tanner looked downright menacing. The driver, who's just going about his work, is VERY meek; slumped shoulders, shrinking away, he shouts, he tries to get away, continuously followed by Tanner and 3 of his goons. I could see he was threatened and fearful. I think Tanner was not going to back off--he had a fish on the hook and he would have followed him to the parking lot and probably blocked this dude from driving away in the end. Tanner goon boy doesn't seem to have an ounce of insight or empathy that would have indicated that he should back off instead of hounding this very skittish man. I foresee he's going to be injured again if he keeps this garbage up, and maybe he won't be so lucky next time.
"he driver, who's just going about his work, is VERY meek" The meek don't carry firearms, and don't take the slightest provocation as justification to use any firearm they might have. Shooting someone means you want them to be dead. So he's killing someone because they had their phone out playing an annoying recording. Come on, man.
"He only tells him a couple times" one warning is enough. If i tell you once I feel threatened and you continue to approach me, I'm drawing on you not giving a second warning, and if you approach again, you are no longer breathing.
This is why you never underestimate how someone will react to something you say or do. We can sit here and say he overreacted all we want but we don’t know what was going on in his head. This is why you leave people alone.
Yup. If he would've just left the guy alone he probably wouldn't of even hurt anyone, but all it took was one ass clown to set someone ever so close to the edge over it. People are so close to snapping these days it's honestly frightening, you'd have to have a death wish to push peoples buttons anymore.
@@SekiberiusWelkesh "probably" .. lmao Take risks with your own life. Maybe look up how many random stabbings, people getting pushed into car/trucks/trains and people who have died or been paralyzed from being sucker punched. You are the same kinda of fake person who would be online virtue signaling about how sad it is that the man died or cant walk. "Oh he didn't deserve it." ALL the fault is on the person who came into anothers personal space and then followed while continuing to do it. He was told to stop . The guy moved away. Unless you are trying to intimidate and instill fear into someone you do not continue to get close to him. Well, he did instill fear and he got what he deserved.
People fail to understand that not everyone is on the internet and “aware” of those pranks. To him it most likely looked like someone genuinely harassing him and given he didn’t back off the slightest he saw no other way than defending himself.
I do genuinely hope you don't have children. To think that someone bugging you for a minute is enough for you to justify ending their life is scary. No other way? So, no call to police? No taser? no non-lethal means, really? Thank F*** I don't live in the US with people like you.
I mean, I could see how he might've felt that his life was in danger. There were three guys (the prankster douche, his buddy, and the camera man) surrounding him, and the prankster douche was a whole head and shoulders taller than him. If a group of guys just started surrounding me for seemingly no reason whatsoever, I'd feel threatened.
@@tfyk5623 Well, obviously. I feel that perhaps pulling out his firearm and telling them to stop again, and seeing whether or not they back off would've been a fairly appropriate course of action. But instantly blasting the guy the second he took out his firearm was a definite overreaction.
@@Andrew-ij3mhnah, in close quarters like this, brandishing can result in losing control of your firearm. Especially when the guy is so much more physically imposing and likely stronger than you.
@@tfyk5623 Lets say those dudes were out for evil and decided to end that guys life... then did he have the right to shoot? Oh too late he is dead and you don't care. But you do care about some dude intimidating another person? You also decided you being an armchair quarterback after the matter is something everybody should be able to do in the moment and a relevant argument. You need to get your brain checked.
Why can’t we have like… wholesome prankster vlogger CZcamsrs. Like going up to strangers and being like “OMG are you the model who I’m here to meet for the shoot? Wow the pictures don’t do you justice…” or buying cookies and then going around randomly giving them to people or sneaking them into purses and backpacks. Or the confusing kind, like running up as a gang and carrying a car across the intersection during the pedestrian walk signal or flipping stuff around when people aren’t looking. It’s still pranks but it’s so much less obnoxious and more something the target can look back on and scratch their head or smile rather than shudder in disgust.
Something I feel I should add to this, from someone who works delivery right now and was once a plumber in new orleans working in the worst parts of the city. Stuff this prankster was doing is VERY much something that happens as a pretext to a mugging or robbery. Same with putting cans or bottles behind your car wheels so you get distracted to remove them. You see a group of people waiting for you its better to gtfo. Someone comes up asking you to check out something on their phone randomly, acts crazy like this, or trying to sell you something randomly and you better be ready. People target delivery drivers all the time, to the point its one of THE most dangerous jobs in the world. Part of the reason maglights are common for tradeworkers and delivery folks is not just because you can spot addresses and see your way, but because those things will do major damage as a weapon. I've been through many an attempted mugging as a delivery driver and plumber, I've even had guns in my face and almost been shot a few times. While I don't carry, if prankster mcfukface kept it up I likely would have pepper sprayed, stun gunned him, or hit him with a maglight. You don't take chances, thats how you get stabbed, shot, and/or killed. And to all the muggers and robbers out there, gig app people don't work with cash we don't carry that on us. They pay us $2 an order you really think we got money? You all probably got more than we do, leave us alone if we're in your neighborhood we're just bringing your neighbors food and groceries when many places won't. Chill.
People like you don’t get the respect you deserve. I genuinely hope things get better for you as time goes on! Also, I hafta say, concealed carry is a good way to tell the person you’re delivering to a message to not mess with me. Js.
Came looking for this. One of my friends was almost mugged or worse by some dude with a knife who was at first asking for directions. Only made it away safely because they were carrying something bigger. I don't feel it's right for Charlie to call this dude unhinged for his response. As silly as it may seem at first, this idiot Tanner and his friend got this man's attention and well within striking distance of him for far, far longer than needed to get whatever hits in they'd like. Had they half a mind to cause him harm, they had the numbers and the opportunity to do so, and Colie(idk howto spell his name) simply doesn't know what these guy's intention is when they keep following him like this. What he does know, is that if it comes to a fistfight, he's n o t winning. And that's a chance you don't take with folks you don't know. Colie shot this man to stop him, not to kill him. It's why he only fired once.
The best part is how all these news stations are using the line "he brought a gun to a cell phone fight" He didn't bring anything to a fight, a fight came to him and he had happaened to have a gun.
A citizen trying to make a living, while clearly having mental health issues now has to spend 2-10 years in prison for shooting a gun inside... i wonder if he'll be better or worse coming out of prison.. and this prankster is litterally mocking them on the news.. pathetic world we live in
I’ve been legitimately socked in the face and almost robbed by a similar situation. Pretty big guy showing me something on his phone to distract me “asking for directions” then suddenly tried to grab me and punched me. Random people talking to you can be normal. But someone actively trying to get in your face acting weird is definitely a dangerous situation. The only thing that was a loss here is that idiot didn’t get shot in the head.
The thing is your situation was an actual assault, hence you NEED to use lethal force to defend yourself. This situation tho, there was no immediate threat, it was just someone being extremely annoying. The victim here could have easily stopped at pulling out the gun to warn them that he feels threatened, and that they should leave him the fck alone. Going straight to shooting is where he's in the wrong. No amount of harassment he endures gives him the right to try to take another person's life, unless that harassment is actually going to end his life right then and there.
@@ucmanhvuong4301you are wrong with everything you just said. first of all how is culley suppose to know theres no immediate threat? honestly answer that fucking question, if a normal person came up to you asking for directions or asking you to listen to a "strange voice mail" and got close are you really saying that you have no reason to suspect SOME sort of threat? these people three of them in fact came up to him and were harassing him, they were BIGGEr than he was, so he had every right to assume they were threatening him especially when his hand was shoved out of his face and he immediately put it back in culleys face which is in that moment assualt against culley. he coldnt have known that this was a "prank" and he had three large men standing against him and were trying to corner him. shooting was the best option he had and he made the right move by shooting the harasser. in these cases you can never know until hindsight if the threat was real or imagined, but in the moment you never know and you have to use your best guess and like OP said. normal looking people came up to him, asked him questions and he paid the price for it when he didnt suspect foul play or any threats. culley as far as anyone should be concerned made the right choice by pulling out his gun and shooting. and like OP said its only a shame that the harasser lived.
@@moviemaker2011z bruh in what aspect was he being cornered, do you even know what corner means? He could have easily solved the problem of them scaring him by scaring them back with the gun and then make his way to a safer place if he believes they are an actual threat. Here he didn't even give a warning at all and just shot first. What kinda of mental gymnastic are you using to even justify shooting first and ask question later? Kinda reminds me of the whole fiasco of police shooting ppl in their homes bcs neighbors report them, just bruh.
@@ucmanhvuong4301 Yes. His story was an actual assault. That's the point. The entire "prank" was set up to imitate the prelude to a violent confrontation by strangers. The entire point was to make the victim fear that they were going to get assaulted. The delivery guy has probably been mugged exactly like this before. He doesn't have the luxury of going back in time and tailoring his response to facts revealed only in the aftermath. That's a _very_ basic concept. Also: pulling out a pistol at that distance and not using it is a good way to lose it and get shot yourself. Even if it made them back off and drop their act, he still would have likely been charged just for brandishing the weapon.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC lol ok he got off of straight up shooting a person and you're telling me to believe he would get charged for brandishing his gun to scare off harassers? I dunno ig that's just Westerner/Americans for ya. And obviously I didn't say to just show his guns and do nothing. Just turn around, point the gun at them and slowly back away to make distance, all the while giving out warnings. He at least should utter ONE warning abt lethal force before actually using it ffs. Your argument is why police can just straight up shoot ppl in their own home without a second thought
Wait…. So they determined it WAS self defense… but he’s getting in trouble for firing his weapon in public? What’s he supposed to do, wait to see if they follow him home? Self defense is ok… but not in a public place? This makes no sense
A key thing is that, after he pushed the guy's hand out of his face, the "prankster" immediately put his hand back where it was. When somebody uses physical force to remove you from their personal space, and you immediately invade it again, you are in a physical altercation (a fight).
Maybe legally… but we all know that’s not really a fight. this shooting was not justified at all… I think everyone is just having an emotional response and sympathizing with the shooter because of how painfully annoying Tanner is.
He was a delivery guy who's probably been robbed a few times already. Who knows what he's been through before this point. You only need to be held up once to say "Shoot first, details later".
seeing charlie’s smile sparked a gleam in my eye and a slight palpitation of the heart. my grandmother was watching as well and now she can walk again. my goodness, may charlie inspire millions once more
With 2 guys being aggressive and up in your face like that, one of them a much larger guy. The situation could’ve escalated and you’d be out on your ass in seconds. It was a legitimate scary situation for the harassed. Just substitute the guy for a women, and you can clearly see that it was a situation where fear for bodily harm is a serious concern.
Bullshit. This is a public place, not a dark place at night. there is no excuse and no world where you can justify someone shooting someone like a psycho with a trigger finger because they are just playing something on their phone for you. Psychos with guns are a problem in the US as we know. America is the problem. Watch Remi gaillard, classic prankster that everyone loves but in the US would be at risk of being shot lol. His pranks can be intrusive sometimes but they are harmless. Only in the US are people always "escalating". Because you psychos have no chill
@@luluna5228it’s worse than obnoxious if you’re not aware what the deal is, the point of the video could be to assault people not just annoy them, how are we supposed to know? It wouldn’t be the first time some crazy ass kids record themselves fucking somebody up
As a former delivery driver people will act crazy/strange to get close to us and attack. The delivery driver legitimately did nothing wrong and was only protecting himself
It's not *the most* appropriate response, but when you've got a guy looming over you, chasing you, refusing to respond in a human manner, all while playing some unintelligible incantation on his phone, I can see why Cole felt threatened. Who knows what's coming next? Zero sympathy from me.
I wonder if he has been mugged or messed with before and that's why he was armed and ready to defend himself. Doordash workers are no strangers to attempted robberies.
Yeah same here, can see why he did it but resorted to that way too early. If these morons followed him to his car then there is no disputing that. I'd be scared as fuck if some weirdos taller than me followed me to my car.
I was grabbed by a dude one time holding his phone up asking me random questions about a place. I don't have a gun but thankfully people were there and stepped in. I don't blame the guy for being concerned when they pressed him and didn't stop
Exactly. Going around shooting people for harassment isn’t good or something we should celebrate, but at the same time it’s good that it’s been made clear to these asshole “pranksters” that there are consequences with harassing strangers on the street and that you aren’t invincible just because there’s a camera on you
It's really sad how the ones normally bullying others are protected by the system, shooting him wasn't right, but letting a man who was harassed serve time while the harasser gets to continue harassing others is insane.
Without the context of it being a prank the "prank" looked like a few dudes setting the delivery driver up to get jumped from behind while he was distracted, completely reasonable shooting in that situation
The court assumes 'street justice' was a sufficient consequence. Clearly not. Technically it's precedent that -if- when something happens to him again, it's indefensibly his fault.
it was in a goddamn mall. call the staff team, call security, LITERALLY DO ANYTHING EXCEPT SHOOTING THE GUY LIKE WHAT???? the shooter is mentally ill if his first reaction to someone aggravating him with camera behind him is to shoot him point blank. it wouldve made sense if they were alone and it was nighttime. but during fucking daytime when so many people around, im sure theres a guard just a few steps away from him. like come on how the fuck are yall even supporting the shooter? the prankster is an ass, we get it, but that doesnt excuse this
I’m sure this prankster will harm others. He doesn’t respect boundaries and he likes making people feel uncomfortable. It’s some serious psychopathy. Mark my words: Keep an eye on that one.
Maybe it was too far but pulling out a gun in that situation is such an overkill. In any other country that wouldn't have happened in but in America. To me it looks like the guy wanted to shoot him and thought it was a good chance to pull out his gun and later claims it to be self-defence.
The worst are the "pranksters" that go into some area and do things they know will trigger certain groups, such as going to a rough part of a downtown area and asking someone if they want a quick "fade," only to pull out hair clippers
I’ve seen to many of these “pranks” online that are just assaulting people or damaging property. I read a Reddit post of a woman chased by a teenager with a machete who sued after she ran tripped and broke her leg. Tanner is massive compared to this guy and it only takes one punch for Colie to never see his family again or live with a serious head injury for the rest of his life, it was completely justified.
He was neither assaulting someone, or damaging property? If I were to shoot anyone pestering me in public, like the local pastor who constantly screams about god, am I justified in shooting him to death? Like bro, imagine Eric Andre getting shot in the street for doing something bizarre, you are just overplaying the incident to justify shooting people.
Anyone who says this is justifiable is crazy. I see a punch or anything else. Hell, he could have just warned him that he had a gun. The fact that he took no hesitation to shoot some in a mall is wild. Especially since he didn’t even look that threatening. The only thing he did was put his phone up with words that he didn’t even understood, and started following him with it.
@@blakefantasy2600 Why would he have thrown a punch at someone a full head taller than him with two buddies that are also bigger than him? As someone who is not american and doesn't have a gun culture it is weird to me this was possible to have happened, although saying that it is clear that he was trying to leave, but was being followed and had no way of knowing what their intentions were
Don't call them pranksters. These aren't pranks. This is harassment, call them harassers.
Step back! You know what you are? A harasser...
Can’t believe I’m saying this but… I’m missing the days of Joey Salad and Sam Pepper. At least those “pranks” were fake. Lol
And the punishment for harassment isn’t the firing squad?
no they're pranksters stay mad bozo
Oh he knows you can almost hear the air quotes in his voice.
To add a little context, dude was a doordash/ubereats driver and was picking up food when the "prank" started. Unfortunately there is a lot of violence towards delivery drivers so he probably legitimately thought this dude was going to rob/hurt him.
True he feared for his life
Entertainment for children. Lost 10 year old boys with zero self esteem. What a pathetic narcissistic sociopath
Delivery drivers do get targeted a lot for muggings. Some similar shit probably happenes to him
yeah speaking as a 5'6" 112 lb woman, I'd almost certainly react to a dude this size getting this close to me and following me around as though it were an assault, and the taser would probably at least come out, so I'm not surprised even another dude who was significantly shorter than him would feel this threatened
@@vanessaashford9203 taser? You need to carry a gun. Nonlethals fail all the time, especially when the guy is large
I known two people who've been mugged. And both of them have said the same thing - "This is what it looks like when you're about to get mugged." They were totally in this guy's side for self defense. The other guy was a douche.
Exactly. Theyll get up on you real quick and if so, youve lost your chance to defend yourself.
There is no reason someone should be getting this close to you.
@@Kr4v3rd yeah people forget not all shitty people come at you with violence at first, i was almost stabbed and robbed in las vegas once when i was drunk and they came at me laughing and pretending i was their new buddy..... Until the second they got me off the main road, then they beat my ass and pulled a knife, i somehow drunkenly ran away.
It suck the poor guy got 10 years for selfdefensed🤬😒
Fucking tanner! I hate him!
He verbally tells him to stop, he physically pushes the phone away AND than walks away. If you get shot after that, that’s 100% on you
Classic people from the US thinking any reason is a good reason to shoot someone. That's why gun violence became the number one cause of death amongst young people recently you know
Agreed.
Agreed 100%
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Americans when slight physical confrontation:
The audacity to vow to CONTINUE to do stupid pranks after getting shot for one is just astounding. No lesson to be learned here, just natural selection.
He’s gonna get hurt again doing this
@@IPursuePeppers-CTHHopefully for the final time 🤷🏻♀️
Play stupid games win stupid prizes am I right
My brain hurts 🤣🤣🤣
Natural selection 💀, thats literally everyone
I love how the DA probably painted a picture of prankster being harmless but the jury was like "fuck that guy"
😂
You obviously didn't attend university.
You really don't understand how the court system works. You made up an entire story in your head that isn't based on a single facts. You must be MAGA.
Your feelings ain't facts. They never will be.
Fuck the DA too
The DA is the prosecutor.
Jury nullification is real
Common sense doesn't identify "harassing" when its from a stranger. If a stranger invades your personal space and starts doing weird shit all you're gonna think is they're trying to rob, kidnap or murder you.
Well said Raku.
Okay, but if you're wrong and they're not trying to mug you, it's murder, so...
@@HamuraiJack29 Sooooo.. what? What does that matter?
@@HamuraiJack29 just cause they say they werent doesnt mean it didnt look or feel like they werent, dont shove your shit in some elses face when they clearly dont want it.
@HamuraiJack29 it's not murder if you believe a person is trying to harm you and you believe you're defending your self.
This is the perfect example of "fuck around and see what happens" ever. This guy has probably pranked so many people he deemed defenceless and believed that his 6'5 stance made him untouchable.
You can tell just from the way he acts, dresses and his mother and father's attitude to the whole situation that this kid made others in high school's lives a living hell and got away with it.
how could you mess up "fuck around and find out" so badly bro. See what happens? Really what is wrong with you
@raskolnikovsghost2701 do you think that phrase is magic or something? That no one will understand what they were saying?
In short. Who cares
@@yeturs69420 no no I'm with raskol, the other man just wrote an atrocity and you are trying to let him get away with it? You are worse than the prankster.
@@co7769 I’m so confused right now lmfao 🤣
@@ShaquilleOatmeal849you said “fuck around and see what happens”..? it’s “fuck around and find out” 😭
Honestly hope he sees this. His mom's just as pathetic for encouraging that behavior. She should be embarrassed for raising such a burden to society
This is what happens when you spoil your child too much and let them have unrestricted access to the internet.
For the mom, he's is just a funny guy
@@LuisSierra42 He isn’t funny?
@@Apersonthatexists1That’s what he said. It would be funny *_to his MOM_*
She’d probably need any amount of self-awareness for that, but look at the clout goblin she raised.
I love that the jury ruled this self-defense, it sets a precedent now that this behavior is not ok and can be considered assault.
In a majority of the US and world it would be ruled as attempted murder. Cause that’s what it was….
he is still going to prison for years.
@@toml1446because he shot inside a mall, if this happened outside in an empty parking lot it would have been a different case, self defense is very hard but he won't be in jail any longer than 2 years if he got parole
@@uglyjihad It's possible (though unlikely) that he'll get his sentence suspended
if he warned him first then it could be reasonable
If you are constantly being harassed it is NORMAL to snap in some ways. You do not have to be in a "bad mental state" to set your boundaries.
Exactly, like if a stranger walks away telling you to stop, what other meaning could the word possibly have in that context… keep doing it? Sure, if you’re asking for either a beating or lead in your gut.
You have never been outside, pretty unhinged. I'm sure you are a lovely person 😂.
You don’t get to shoot somebody for sticking a phone in your face for a few seconds. Crazy how it’s now normal to shoot people over anything. The guy was an annoying pest of course but I don’t see why a gun needed to be used.
Yeah it's normal to snap. That's why the whole prankster category exists in the first place, exploit reactions for content. It's definitely not normal to jump from saying "stop" a couple times to pulling out a gun and instantly shooting someone in a shopping center.
Theres a difference between snapping like shouting back at him or even punching him, vs snapping by pulling out a loaded firearm and shooting him in a public place. The prankster is a massive dickhead and I don't feel sorry for him as he put himself in that situation, HOWEVER the other guy definitely did overreact by pulling out a gun. Pulling out a gun only massively escalates the situation, the only time where it is justifiable to draw a gun is if you are in genuine fear for your life. Yes the prankster was harassing him and getting in his face but it looks like they were in a public food court in broad daylight, I dont think that counts as a life threatening situation. I doubt that other guy was in a very stable state of mind considering how quickly he resorted to just shooting him. If people went around shooting every asshole who got in their face, that would just cause alot more problems.
"He only tells him a couple of times to stop" Bro it shouldn't take more than one. If you're harassing someone and physically touching them without their consent, they shouldn't need to tell you to stop at all, let alone more than once. Bad take.
1. they never touched the shooter.
2. call the police, that's what their for.
3. you had the audacity to tell Penguinz0 he made a bad take, expect to see your address online.
@@infinitehexington eXpEct tO sEe yoUr aDdrEss onLinE 🤓
@@infinitehexingtonHarassment is harassment regardless of physical contact. Bro is a doordasher and was approached by two large morons in a public space, shoving a phone in his face and getting uncomfortably close. Fuck around and find out.
For your third point the only thing I expect is your lack of bitches.
@@infinitehexingtonwhat the fuck is wrong with you
@@infinitehexington
1. You forgot the capital letter.
2. You also forgot the capital letter.
3. I think he was saying that about the prankster.
I think a massive 6'5 stranger physically intimidating you along with his friends and pursuing you after you tell him to stop multiple times while trying to get away is a dangerous situation. The jury agreed.
"multiple times" literally just showed him a phone a couple times for less than 10 seconds. Yall reaching.
@@EveTheRaviolo10 seconds of an escalating situation can go very south.. Anyone who has been in a life-threatening situation understands this. Fight or flight is an involuntary response for a reason: survival
6'5?? damn, y'all have no concept of danger OR space.
@@EveTheRaviolomost of the world and the jury disagree with you, accept that and move on.
@@DumplingDoodley’all are actually defending this? How would you know how someone should react to their sense of danger?
One slightly different perspective. I’m a delivery driver as well. It is a job that you are targeted for muggings a lot. The number one thing that is a tell tale sign that something is up is people acting weird. I 100% understand why he shot him. I probably thought tanner was distracting him from the real threat.
This!!! When I saw that the guy was delivery driver, I just thought "The dude thought he was getting jumped at the mall"... People are not taking the guy's job into consideration...
I drove long haul for 30 years and most companies don't allow you to carry firearms. I did it anyway, along with pepper spray and a large dog. and all of those items came in handy at some point. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. People are strange and when they are REALLY acting strange, you better pay attention.
That's also used in shoplifting rings.
And an Uber driver has been shot and murdered since you posted that. I hope you are safe.
People don't realize how much harassment delivery drivers can face. It can be a dangerous job, almost at least once a month it seems like I read a story about a delivery driver getting blasted or robbed for no good reason.
I completely agree with self defense, you couldn't tell he had a gun so how do we know the prankster isn't armed? It's not my job to assume everyone coming up to me in a malicious manner is unarmed
Nor is it your job to assume an unarmed person way bigger than you won't just beat you to death if you let them. You're completely right. Even I can't be sure he wasn't gonna try to hurt him & I saw the video.
" It's not my job to assume everyone coming up to me in a malicious manner is unarmed"
You're not allowed to shoot them all.
Are firearms toys to you? Do you understand that being shot can kill someone? It's not a video game.
@@neutrino78x then what good are self defense rules ? It is only applied under very specific circumstances and he did say someone is approaching WITH MALICIOUS MANNERS. It's totally reasonable to assume someone with such manners poses a great threat to you, unarmed or not. So, in case you can't evade or evasion does little to no help, correct me if I'm wrong but firing under such a stage of a continuing threat, is acceptable.
@@laikhoabang
"It is only applied under very specific circumstances and he did say someone is approaching WITH MALICIOUS MANNERS"
Nah they were just annoying him by playing an annoying noise on their cell phone.
If you don't have the maturity to talk through a shopping center and have normal things happen to you without killing someone, you don't need to be carrying a gun.
@@neutrino78x question have you been attacked by stranger(s)?
Tanner is NOT a prankster, he's a sadistic bully that enjoys threatening and intimidating people.
As soon as Charlie said that he learned his lesson and tried to change his ways, I knew it was too good to be true.
@AntiOfficerBMT Bot Warning ⚠
Fr, I have no hope of any prank youtubers having personal growth. Doomed to be a living L
Bro I was really hoping it was true. I laughed my ass off when he said it wasn't true, as I shouldn't have been surprised at all.
People who snapped like that shouldn’t even be allowed to go outside to begin with
@@user-cl7xu9pm2tthat bot is the good version of the so called trollpolice
"Guess you'll just have to watch"
No thanks Tanner. I'll just watch the news for an update on the next time you scare someone so bad they feel the need to take potentially deadly action.
Which will probably be a couple months later seeing as this guy has made it beyond CZcams and now anytime he pranks someone they can just go "Hey ain't you the guy that got shot and the shooter got away with it in self defence? BANG!"
@@ShaquilleOatmeal849 oh yeaahh i would like to see that happening to him hahaha, boom! that hurts~
Yeah no one will care
I've never even heard of this POS, but I bet he has a CZcams channel and it hasn't been removed...
Well, Charlie... Saying "Stop" a couple of times should be enough deterrent for someone to cease and desist from encumbering your personal space. Things went 0 to 100 really quick? Yes. Bloke had it coming? Also, yes.
Legally you are just wrong.
Clearly, legally, given that the jury aqcuitted, you're the one who's wrong.@@huntermarquette3484
@@huntermarquette3484so we should just get harassed
@@Dark-ql7kn you can call the cops or defend your self with non-lethal force(Hands, Pepper Spray, ect). harassment alone isn't a legal justification for lethal force.
he also didnt just say stop, he also tried to smack the phone out and retreat from the situation
I disagree with you on that he shouldnt have shot. Its been well documented that someone with a knife will beat the average person off the draw within 21 feet. On top of that the man harassing him was much larger. The delivery guy had no idea if the attacker was on drugs or mentally ill and things can go down in an instant. He asked multiple times for him to back away and he didnt.
then why do people with your logic always get put 6 feet under?
@@infinitehexingtonWhat the fuck are you on about?
@@infinitehexington What are you smoking?
Never seen a simps character in real life like this @@infinitehexington
@@infinitehexingtonNotice how you got dunked on three different times and didn't have the business to stand on when confronted 😂😂
These people aren't "pranksters"
Its harassment at best. I am shocked Mizzy hasn't been hurt.
Because blacks are a protected species. They will replace you.
Theres hasnt been much news from that sewer rat so i assumed he's dead without a trace ?
Also, a prank would consist a huge camera crew not a couple of goons with a phone
god its crazy how quickly he became irrelevant and completely forgotten after that piers morgan "interview"
@@hybridAbsolgod I hope so
Well, the uk isn't the us....
The most hilarious part of this is the prankster said he'd continue doing pranks. Some people really never learn their lesson.
Damm
FR FR ONG
@CrewmateComplexXPnope
@CrewmateComplexXPand?
Your point would work if you weren’t a Roblox scam shiller.
I wouldn’t call it unhinged at all. If you want to go act threatening to someone in public, you may get shot.
I find you threatening, wya so I can go defend myself becuase you are very threatening to me.
See a jury agree with u then :)@@infinitehexington
@@infinitehexington I mean, if a stranger aproaches you with his friends, you don't know who they are or what they're doing, start invading your personal space, and don't stop when you ask, yeah, you would probably feel threatened, and with reason.
@@infinitehexington delivery drivers get mugged so often, it's really not unreasonable to assume that someone getting into your personal space, not leaving even after you say stop, then keeps following you, has malicious intent. Not to mention he was larger than him, with another person as well. I have no idea why it's so hard to understand
@@Lucyhehe_ see an English teacher first 😂
It should be mentioned the prankster guy approached him with 2 of his friends too. That by itself to a stranger could signal danger . If 3-4 guys walk up to me and seem to be getting that close I could easily see that going south
Yeah, if that was me, I would've aimed differently, not taking any chances, more so, when I'd be facing jail almost the same, so why care.
Yeah and as a delivery person they knew that at any time they could get jumped & robbed.
Okay but that doesnt mean you get to shoot him
@@jojobod There is that yes it is a good point. Hard to really judge without being that person in that situation. Perhaps just pointing the gun and requesting him to leave might have worked. But the way he ignored all requests to leave the person alone he continued to stalk them staring at them.
@@geehammer1511 okay, but all they had was a phone…
They did nothing to engage, there was zero reason to immediately open fire without warning. That’s deranged behavior.
These kind of incidents are going to increase so long as people think harassing others in public for internet points socially acceptable.
Nobody thinks this is socially acceptable. Even the pranksters, thats why they do it
Shooting people for this isn’t acceptable 💀
@AntiOfficerBMTYou are also a bot
@@samscholz5024 don't do stupid stuff out in the wild
@AntiOfficerBMTcould I get 1 too since there soo easy to get I guess lol
People don't even know what the hell a prank is anymore, and that's the fucked up part. Invading people's personal space and running up on them with little warning is not a prank, it's an invitation to get your shit pushed in.
No it’s literally not 💀 you can’t shoot people for that.
That's just straight up harassment
@AntiOfficerBMT Bot Warning ⚠
It pisses me off when ppl compare these losers to Jackass. Jackass pranked/abused each other, not random ppl in public lol.
Did I mention anything about legality? People will do what they feel is necessary to protect themselves whether the law is on their side or not.@@samscholz5024
Someone who's personal space is invaded so often and so aggressively with the aggressor not accepting a no should be able and allowed to acts of self defense
"I got shot, and a guy is going to prison, possibly ruining his life. I vow to continue to be an obnoxious piece of shit." What a lovely story.
This man is the definition of insanity. He’s gonna keep doing pranks over and over expecting a different outcome
Hopefully it is different next time. With any luck his victim doesn't give him the courtesy of an abdominal shot.
Bro trying to get all endings
Are you looking at it tho
For future reference: "doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result" is not the definition of insanity. It's just a very well written and timed line from Far Cry 3, which many people now assume to be true.
Edit: apparently the quote was not exactly from FC3, it's been attributed to Albert Einstein (likely falsely, like so many "Einstein quotes"). Regardless, it is not the definition, but rather a philosophical stance on instanity.
@@aquaicecold5521Ending U fr
It's not just that Tanner doesn't realize he sucks enough to be shot. The fact that the majority of the internet community, and even the jury themselves, also ALL agreed that his being shot was justified, ought to be be a serious learning & growth moment for him.
Should be, but he gets to much of a kick from pissing people off. Eventually hel do it to someone who will kill him.
You are a psychopath if you think shooting someone that could easily kill them was a reasonable response to that
@@mikeyeetthe shot clearly wasn't intended to kill
@@burp2019 If you point a gun at someone and fire it your intention is to kill. That's gun knowledge 101. That guy definitely had no business shooting the guy and I'm not one to defend asshole prank channels.
@@mikeyeetDo I think it’s a reasonable response? Probably not. Would I do the same? Probably not. Do I think this prankster dipshit is a waste of space and I wouldn’t miss him? Yes. Maybe I’m a psycho, oh well.
As someone who has had to pull my gun multiple times to stop would be muggers I'd have done the same thing. You never know what's going to happen and after several warnings you don't back off, I'm going to defend myself.
This is a infuriating situation. Lots of people are reporting on him being acquitted and that's great. But the prosecution is still holding him on discharging a firearm in public. Dudes bin in jail for 6 months cause of this bull crap.
Do you, like, just walk around looking for reasons to kill people? A firearm is deadly force. A man could be dead right now. For what, for annoying someone?
@@neutrino78xshit take. How dumb could you be?
@@neutrino78xfor a super imposing dude and multiple friends to surround, get in personal space, and harass? For sure it was justified. They were acting like they were going to mug/rob or do something worse to him not “prank”. Also delivery drivers are very commonly targeted for mugging. It’s not just this dude that’s there
@@SpecHallenbeck
"for a super imposing dude and multiple friends to surround, get in personal space, and harass? For sure it was justified"
No, man. That kind of thing happens at malls at the time. Just keep walking.
Disappointed that human life doesn't seem to mean much to you.
@neutrino78x That there are people out there for which life means so little makes a group of men suddenly harassing someone alone seem more sinister, no?
This is a pretty common tactic for mugging. Someone gets in front of you to make you stop instinctively, and then you get surrounded and shook down. If you wait until your muggers are in position then you risk getting disarmed or restrained as they grab one arm each. All of them were already way too close. So I can see it as inherently threatening being flanked like that since as a non-American it looked like the start of a robbery to me. What other plausible reason would someone have to act like that? Prank wasn't even in my radar of possible reasons. I personally know of people that got robbed in crowded malls so it being in a public place like that doesn't mean it couldn't be a robbery in progress.
Call me paranoid, but I'd been immediately terrified by someone doing that. I've heard cases where people shove phones into stranger's faces out of the blue, or do something otherwise distracting (usually harassment). And while they do that, their buddies jump/pickpocket/straight up cart away things the stranger is now distracted from noticing/too confused to react yet to.
That was also my thought. I would immediately think they try to rob me or steal from me. And because Ei actually got robbed once because I was to nice I’m straight up punching everybody that makes me feel uncomfortable in that way
I'm paranoid about the knockout game pranks.
You're paranoid.
@@jtellisoparanoid != reasonable. You need to have a "reasonable" fear for your life.
Honestly what are the chances there’s a CZcams prankster in Virginia of all places? I agree with you, I’d be a bit freaked out if people walked up harassing me with a phone.
He wasn't just being annoying, he had a group of 3 people bigger than the guy corner him, refuse to leave him alone, and followed him after multuple vocal and physical attempts to get them to stop. that isna very dangerous situation to be put in without your knowledge.
It's called "disparity of force."
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And where in the released footage do you see that? Why lie?
@@TheDeDuoscameracrew + the 'pranster' so i'm thinking there's someone just not in frame
2 People come up to him, one guy stays behind and the youtuber continues to follow him, the camera man isnt near them because he is the camera
Sorry Charlie, I disagree with this take. This guy has every right to believe he was in danger.
According to court documents, before those "20 seconds," Tanner and his friend were supposedly following him for almost 5 minutes. Also, yeah, Colie only gave the guy a "couple warnings," but he also tried to escape and was pursued.
While I ultimately think Colie acted in haste, I think the issue is whether it was reasonable to conclude that Tanner intended bodily harm or not.
I can understand that. But they were also in a populated, well-lit shopping center. I can totally see being afraid and put-off by this stranger and his cronies following you around. But that’s cause to shove the guy, or maybe throw a punch *before* you pull a piece and shoot him right there.
I can totally understand the guy giving *a* response to the situation, I just think the one he chose was really not what was necessary
This comment belongs on r/shittakes
@@ianbyrne465 I said I still think Colie was out of line. My issue with Charlie was his characterization of Colie's reaction.
"Colie didn't really meet the threshold for self-defence," and "It is reasonable for Colie to conclude he was in danger" can both be true. I think they are both true btw. Colie definitely had reason to believe the use of force was justified, and definitely had reason to believe an imminent act was pending. Problem is VA differentiates between plain ol' bodily harm and serious bodily harm, and I don't think Tanner hits the "serious bodily harm" mark... Like, at all.
That being said, I don't think it being well-lit or populated matters. Also, unfortunately, punching or shoving is just a bad idea in this context. It's the unfortunate reality of how most of assault law is interpreted in America and the fact VA does not require a person retreat. See Tanner has a right to self-defense too, and VA is a stand your ground state. So if Colie escalated the violence first through a punch, any further use of self-defense must consider Tanner's actions as a response to Colie's escalation.
Honestly, Colie probably should have just continued to try to separate and told Tanner he is carrying while moving his hands to unholster (but not withdraw) the firearm. It's not the smart thing to do in many situations, but here I think it would have been Colie's best move because it makes the situation unambiguous to Tanner.
@@ianbyrne465nah. If you feel threatened enough to hit him, that’s generally good enough to shoot. Say he had thrown a punch instead. What does he do when he gets jumped on by three dudes, one of which towers over him? Little late to go for the gun then. It’s a shitty situation, but I’d prefer to live in the world where this doesn’t happen because people don’t act like assholes rather than the one where this doesn’t happen because nobody is willing to defend themselves.
@@ianbyrne465 This just in: Malls come with anti-knife technology.
It's easy from the comfort of your studio to say what the right course of action is when you are not the one on that situation. If you've been the victim of abuse or violent assault in the past and a fool like this rolls up on you, your sense of safety disappears immediately. It's very frightening and expecting someone to weigh their legal options in high stress situations like this is hardly rational.
This dude hasn't been disciplined once by his parents, NOT once. You can tell this is the kind of kid who instigates another kid to do wrong, gets in trouble at school, and his mom defends him saying "My baby boy wouldn't do that, he's an angel" in her own selfish bubble of denial about her son's behavior.
If you want your child to live up to the age of 30, teach them life lessons such as, DON’T HARASS RANDOM STRANGERS.
And let’s be honest here, he probably looked up “social experiments” when he was like, 13? And though, “hey, let’s do this, but make a bigger, if not stupider mistake than theirs!”
Stop with this nonsense. I was only hit once by my parents and it was because I insulted another kid that provoked me. If that didn't happen I would have never been hit by my parents. You know why I wasn't going around abusing other kids that did nothing wrong to me? Because I wasn't born that way. My dad was also only hit once by his dad and that happened because of their political disagreement. The fact that scumbags and pranksters are the way they are usually has nothing to do with them being disciplined or not, people like this are either born this way, or something went wrong in the early developmental stage when they were toddlers. I wish bullies like him do get shot, there is no such thing as rehabilitation for people like him. They are born this way, or something went wrong very early on in their life and they will be fcked up for life.
@@scpfiaphi6994 just dont name your kid "tanner"
Well if this guy ends up getting himself killed over a future prank, I hope when people ask his murderer why he done it, he just responds with, "Huh, I don't know. I guess it was just God's plan."
Didnt the mother say "Im disappointed in you" as soon as he said he was gonna keep making videos?
As someone with severe social anxiety, being approach by two complete strangers of massive stature out of nowhere and being harassed by them like that... I can absolutely understand that you'd do anything to get out of a situation like that. Especially in a country where it's not too uncommon to be assaulted in the public.
Especially in a society where no one will assist you and only watch your demise
@@Notsoholygospelwatch record and laugh
Exactly. So many reasons not to do this.
That's fucking insane you realize that? Grow some balls my god. Prolly would shoot someone over being asked what time it is because of their "social anxiety"
this kind of logic doesn't make you socially anxious, it makes you a psychopath
First time I really have to say your wrong charlie, he asked them several times. That guy wasn't backing off he was getting closer.
Seriously that prankster is an inhuman monster.
I see a lot of comments suggesting that pulling the weapon without firing to attempt to get the aggressors to back off would have been a better way to have handled the situation. If you have been through the training to obtain a concealed carry permit (I have), you are told that you absolutely never do this. You are trained that you never pull your weapon until you are sure that you have no option but to use deadly force to protect yourself from death, grievous bodily harm or sexual assault (the standard in my state, very similar in most states). Also, the self defense argument is normally only allowable if you are not the aggressor. Using the firearm to attempt to frighten your attacker away could possibly make you the aggressor in the eyes of a jury and invalidate your claim of self defense if you ultimately did shoot.
Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion on the morality of when shooting another person is justified, but in this case after reviewing the evidence and having the applicable law explained to them by the judge the jury determined that the criteria for using deadly force in self-defense had been met.
That approach did not go well at all for the so-called "Chipotle karen," a pregnant woman whose car was being blocked by a band of screaming women who would not move or get back away from her. She was trying to leave. They kept following her, screaming, aggressively approaching her, and blocking her way so she could not get out of the parking lot, yet she is the one the internet mobs called "unhinged" for just trying to leave a restaraunt.
If you get shot and everyone is like "lol you deserve it", you REALLY need to rethink your life decisions.
“He only tells him a couple of times to stop” hello?! Stop means stop?! As a society have we really strayed this far? As a woman, if the man being harassed was a female, there’d be a completely different out cry.
I was thinking the same thing just now. If the victim was female, things would have been way different.
@@ginnyvanoh I couldn’t help but make a short video on it on my own channel Phantom Era cause it was bugging me so much.
I know right? How many times are we supposed to say stop?
For real, i'm sorry but is there now a quota for how many times you have to tell someone "Stop" or "No" for everyone to understand?!?!
How many times do you think someone has to tell someone to stop doing something before they're allowed to kill them?
@2:10 It was not an unhinged response. Two people are encroaching on him physically, talking insane gibberish, and posing an imminent threat. The victim made it clear he felt threatened by verbally telling these two to stop and they ignored his requests.
In this day and age of political violence, insurrection, violence against law enforcement, over reactions by law enforcement (George Floyd, Breanna Taylor), inaction from law enforcement (Uvalde), school shootings, mass shootings, responding to the victims of mass shootings as if they are actors in a "false flag" operation and harassing them, insane conspiracies, kidnappings, and untreated mental illness, it is not unreasonable to see someone behaving the way that this "prankster" did as an imminent threat. It was made clear to him multiple times that the victim did not want to interact with him. No matter the context f the interaction, prank or not, no reasonable person would continue to encroach upon or speak to someone who has clearly informed them their actions are unwelcome.
Jury disagrees. Seems those 12 folks thought it was perfectly reasonable. The only bad part of this story is he’s still alive.
In a world that made sense, this would be a watershed moment for prank youtubers to not do this anymore, but the fact that he vowed to keep doing it tells me that clout is a drug that takes more lives than fentenyl
You must not know how many deaths are caused by fentanyl
this is one guy
@@Someone-sc2hk But he’s not wrong. Have you not seen prank channels? I’ve seen a case of a guy getting killed by his girlfriend with a deagle for some kind of “challenge”. Clout *_is_* one helluva drug.
@@Mandate_of_Heaven but ofc, it doesn't kill more ppl than fentanyl or any opioid drug would in a literal sense.
@@Mandate_of_Heaven granted, he isn't the only one that does dumb "pranks" like this, but if you think about it, how many "prank" channels have you really seen? I'm betting 100 at MOST
Weird part is Colie’s defense for little to no jail time would be pointing to Turner and pointing out he feels zero remorse or responsibility. That he is without a doubt going to go out and do the thing which caused another to fear for their life so much they shot him…all over again.
Welp...maybe the next person will aim better and rid the world of a canker sore pos subhuman.
A real prank is one in which everyone leaves with a smile. I see no smiles here. That vermin, as you correctly described him, is no prankster.
Nah two dudes walking up and doing that bullshit, you don't know if they are about to start swinging or they have a friend thats gonna jump you while youre distracted. This could absolutely be taken as a possibly life threatening situation. I live in a place where if anyone does this to you there is something bad or violent about to happen.
Dude said "stop" loud and clear so many times, pushed his phone away, and then reached for his pocket. Anyone with more than two braincells rattling in their head like a pair of peas in a tin can could have processed what was happening. And the fact that he's willing to go out and get shot again tells me that maybe two is a generous number.
I wonder what his father thinks about this. But I bet he doesn't have one
Yeah true but you still can’t just shoot someone over it, threaten, maybe, but pulling the trigger? Absolutely not
@@timersonhis father was probably a shitty person so it probably his fault too or not an he some jerk who full of himself and don't care about morals
And he is tall af too. Very intimidating guy.
@@_me___No it’s a general rule that if you pull it out you better be ready to fire it. Maybe he shouldn’t have been shot but maybe he should leave people alone. I grew up in area where he would have got shot doing the first prank he ever did doing shit like that
His mom in that interview told me everything I need to know. When you get a slap on the wrist for everything and have all your necessities met, there is no consequences and self actualization is all that matters.
2:15 No, this is not an unhinged response, when three men approach you and start harassing you and keep following you after you repeatedly tell them to go away, it is self defense at that point
What do you mean keep following him after he repeatedly told them to go away? Your acting like it was a long period of time. There was quite literally 5 seconds between the first time he says stop and when he shoots him.
@@revolution2762 nope the shot was after 35 minutes of stalking and harrassment dude sits down at a table they come up again and he shoots
no it's not lol. in the mall, in public, in broad day while having one guy in your face with two guys behind him no matter how much you want it to be is not justifiable as self defense
@@thecoolestofthe834s2 He shoots the guy literally right after the point where Charlie cuts the video off. Why are you making shit up about him sitting down at a table?
A news article states that they stalked and was staring at the Door Dasher for a solid 60-90 seconds, before they made contact.
Idk about you, but that shit is sketchy and would have me on high alert. We have limited information in the moment, none of us here would know it's a prank. None of us know their intention.
But it looks like a bunch of assholes who won't leave a guy alone after they stalked him.
DoorDasher's reaction seems sound to me.
I used to live in Philadelphia and if someone started doing something like this I would be suspicious that they were setting me up for a robbery. Someone doing something bizarre can be a distraction for someone else to come up behind you.
7:26 it looks like the bullet wound somehow lobotomized his brain. He can no longer act like a normal human being.
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
truer words have never been said
Damn right
Yes
@@Sapwos true too I guess
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I agree with the jury saying it's self defense. they guy is not only following a stranger around, he's also repeatedly putting himself close to the person which is typical behavior of someone who wants to harm somebody. He's standing so close that the other guy is almost close enough to grab his phone, which is definitely close enough for someone to start punching or tackling somebody. The whole thing could have been done without standing so close.
When your need for attention exceeds your need to stay alive.
As a person with severe anxiety disorder and PTSD, What that youtuber did is not just aggravating, it's terrifying. You can tell the man is afraid. We have to remember everyone doesn't think and feel the way.
I suffered from severe C-PTSD that created an unholy co-morbid condition with Borderline Personality Disorder, and funny enough, the worst years I had with it were when I lived literally just 10 minutes away (Reston, VA) from where this happened (Dulles, VA) - and even though that's a NICE area where he's pulling this douchebaggery, that unfortunately does not magically change the fact that you're suffering from a *severe* mental injury that alters your perception of reality and everyone around you. I could _instantly_ see something in the victim that reminded me of myself back then, and if I had been in his shoes, I probably would have done the same.
It's sickening that CZcams is letting that asshole keep his channel, nevermind that he absolutely should have been hit with more severe legal ramifications.
I have those too, I dont think the shooting was justified. I also dont think he should be imprisoned though. And I wish the harasser learned from it.
Then the man shouldnt be having a gun, also with severe anxiety and PTSD i dont think you'd even be able to have one legally.
So what if he's afraid? Being afraid doesnt justify the shooting, A robber could be afraid of a homeowner and shoot him cause of his fear, does that mean he should get away with it?
"We have to remember everyone doesn't think and feel the way" thats only brought up when its convenient, You dont see anyone saying that about the prankster or his actions.
@@BasicallyBasic990A robber shooting the owner of the house he has broken into certainly should not get away with the shooting or the robbery. I think you may have miscontrued the comment.
@@Kevin-if6vp that's not the point, the point is how people configure fear into a crime, but they only do it when the crime is looked as justified in there eyes. Maybe get rid of the robber example and move to another one, another good one could be a guy fearing his life from somebody on the street, If were bringing fear into the question then the man should get away with it.
The point im trying to make and really wonder is why do people only bring up fear when its convenient, and why do people only apply it when the crime in question is looked up upon
To Charlie:
If I remember the story correctly it was stated it was not their first time messing with Cullie. From what I gathered is they thought he was an easy target, and had harassed him multiple times in the past. He had enough and we see the result that followed.
But but but...we must defend bullies! Honestly if that is true, then F the prankster even more, he was just bullying, bullies may find out the hard way what will happen when someone had enough and no one should ever defend the bullies, ever.
Funnily enough that would actually make the shooting less justified under the law. He would actually be guilty under that situation. As a stranger is obviously more threatening than a known entity.
(Just to clarify the jury found the shooting justified but essentially claimed it shouldn’t have happened in a mall which isn’t how that law works which is what the hearing is about.
you gotta say “allegedly” or the spooky scary men in brown coats will come and sue you!!! oooo 👻
@@dragonlogos1 That's not how the law works. Self defense is self defense, retaliation against known individuals versus a stranger doesn't really matter except to the specifics of the case. Known individuals can be harassers, stalkers, etc. Strangers can be those things as well. Whether or not one knows the individual is one of a thousand things analyzed in cases, it's not a make or break part of the case.
Also fuck these types of pranksters. These aren't even pranks, it's just douchebaggery.
@@dragonlogos1 Wrong. He knows these guys are a threat, and he has every right to defend himself against known aggressors.
Media should refuse to allow such prankster videos on their channels. They are equally to blame.
“Or at least criminal cringe” was one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard😂
I'm not going to argue on the self-defense charge but, on the 2nd charge I agree with Colie's lawyers on this one. If the jury rules that he was justified in acting in self defense by firing the gun how can you then find him guilty of discharging a firearm in a public place?? If he hadn't needed to act in self defense the gun never would've been fired.
He wasn't justified in "acting in self defense" since it wasn't self defense. He just wasn't charged, that doesn't mean it was ruled self defense..
@@JTheraos But, that appears to be exactly what happened, from the ABC news story, written by Matthew Barakat, on this:
"Colie pleaded not guilty and said he was acting in *self defense.*
The verdict came Thursday after about five hours of deliberation. Three hours in, the jury sent out a note saying it was “divided in terms of whether the defendant acted in *self defense.”*
Loudoun County Circuit Court Judge Matthew Snow called the jury back into the courtroom around 3:30 p.m. and urged them to continue deliberations, a standard admonition given to juries that indicate they are deadlocked.
The jury then delivered its verdicts at the end of the day.
Colie's defense attorney, Adam Pouilliard, said the conviction on the firearms charge is inconsistent with the law, given Colie's *acquittal on self defense grounds.* He asked the judge to set aside the conviction. A judge will hear arguments on the issue at a hearing next month."
all forms of homicide are illegal anyway
@@JTheraos It was self defense, the jury decided that. If someone is harassing you and won't stop, get rekt.
@JTheraos He was charged, but he was aquitted by a jury. It all went to trial and he was found innocent. The 2nd charge is clearly just the DA trying to charge him for the same action twice. It's funny how so many people are claiming so much shit about the case when the courts outright prove them wrong.
I live in NW Florida. Each time I discover new and deplorable behavior coming from these so-called pranksters, I ask myself "How have they not been shot?".
Becuase you go to jail for defending yourself in this godforsaken country
That or how they haven't been George Floy'd with a knee to the neck.
Well now one has and they're going to keep "pranking". Sad reality this.
Bros gonna end up on the local headlines as a statistic in a year or so. What comes around goes around.
@@dickjohnson9582 I'm sorry bro but firing on a guy for some light harrasement isn't defending yourself, and you're putting everyone at risk since he was in a crowded area, he could have killed someone by firing like that when he was not in direct danger
The man's sentence sets and extremely dangerous precedent. The courts found that he was justified in his self-defence, but also that him shooting into an empty part of a mall was a crime because there were people nearby and it's an enclosed space. This means if there is a school shooter and you are in the school with them and shoot them to defend yourself and everyone else, you can be charged and potentially sentenced to 2-10 years in prison because you shot in an enclosed space with people around.
That's really such an insane precedent.
One prankster got 19 years for having it video taped him sucker punching people in back of the head
Honestly, I was really on board with you for the whole "not deserving to be shot" thing until he "answered" the interview question
🤣I'm fucking weak 🤣
@@chocolatefudgebrowni3225 then hit the gym
he is just in character brudda.. he is an entertainer... and entertanner if you will. he is doing what he set out to do, sure he didnt set out to get shot but he doesnt regret it either... he got shot and was walking the next day.... OOOOO big deal..... like truly confused why yall think this is gonna change anything about him, he says in his videos he knows he may get shot or beat up but he still does it. he didnt even want to press charges but the mall is pursing the charges.
@@DoctorDoofenshmirtzcounter point, he’s an asshole
@@DoctorDoofenshmirtzmaybe he wants to die but is too scared to do it himself lol
The way those two guys ran up on him so aggressively and shoved stuff in his face really feels a lot like a prelude to getting robbed. The shooting makes sense in that context, especially since he was on a delivery.
That's exactly how muggings usually work: Upstanding Citizen #1 approaches you to distract or annoy, and once you're focused on him, his crew emerge from their hiding spots to take you down without a fight. The moment the second guy came out, that made the nature of the implied threat all but unmistakable.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy Especially when the second dude got as close as he did, they were all up in dude's personal space and people don't get that close just for shits and giggles in most cases
It’s a good thing you twitter virgins aren’t apart of society lol
"ran up"?? "aggressively"?? Did you watch the video ro do you just need glasses? People genuinely imagining a whole fictional scenario to justify attempted murder for being mildly annoyed
@@EveTheRavioloyou have no idea what murder is if you think this was attempted murder in literally any world.
As always, a really well-done analysis! I'd just add, I saw the 'prank' video from a different angle, and that Tanner looked downright menacing. The driver, who's just going about his work, is VERY meek; slumped shoulders, shrinking away, he shouts, he tries to get away, continuously followed by Tanner and 3 of his goons. I could see he was threatened and fearful. I think Tanner was not going to back off--he had a fish on the hook and he would have followed him to the parking lot and probably blocked this dude from driving away in the end. Tanner goon boy doesn't seem to have an ounce of insight or empathy that would have indicated that he should back off instead of hounding this very skittish man. I foresee he's going to be injured again if he keeps this garbage up, and maybe he won't be so lucky next time.
"he driver, who's just going about his work, is VERY meek"
The meek don't carry firearms, and don't take the slightest provocation as justification to use any firearm they might have. Shooting someone means you want them to be dead. So he's killing someone because they had their phone out playing an annoying recording. Come on, man.
"He only tells him a couple times" one warning is enough. If i tell you once I feel threatened and you continue to approach me, I'm drawing on you not giving a second warning, and if you approach again, you are no longer breathing.
This is why you never underestimate how someone will react to something you say or do. We can sit here and say he overreacted all we want but we don’t know what was going on in his head. This is why you leave people alone.
People however, are correct, the cause of the overreaction may be unknown, but it is an overreaction nonetheless.
Yup. If he would've just left the guy alone he probably wouldn't of even hurt anyone, but all it took was one ass clown to set someone ever so close to the edge over it. People are so close to snapping these days it's honestly frightening, you'd have to have a death wish to push peoples buttons anymore.
doesn't make it an appropriate response
@@windyzx your opinion doesnt matter. only the law
@@SekiberiusWelkesh "probably" .. lmao Take risks with your own life. Maybe look up how many random stabbings, people getting pushed into car/trucks/trains and people who have died or been paralyzed from being sucker punched. You are the same kinda of fake person who would be online virtue signaling about how sad it is that the man died or cant walk. "Oh he didn't deserve it." ALL the fault is on the person who came into anothers personal space and then followed while continuing to do it. He was told to stop . The guy moved away. Unless you are trying to intimidate and instill fear into someone you do not continue to get close to him. Well, he did instill fear and he got what he deserved.
People fail to understand that not everyone is on the internet and “aware” of those pranks. To him it most likely looked like someone genuinely harassing him and given he didn’t back off the slightest he saw no other way than defending himself.
I do genuinely hope you don't have children. To think that someone bugging you for a minute is enough for you to justify ending their life is scary. No other way? So, no call to police? No taser? no non-lethal means, really? Thank F*** I don't live in the US with people like you.
Well its not a prank literally, its just thieves pretend to do that and trying to get away with it
Mild inconvenience or annoyance isn’t grounds to shoot someone lmao.
@@tytayn1um664 Literally nothing in the comment says this.
And that is why weapons don’t belong in the hands of average joes.
The second he started harassing and scaring someone, he deserved everything coming his way
What an L take Charlie, to suggest that the delivery guy was in a "bad mental space" to "snap".
"with intent to make a CZcams video" should be an additional charge
I mean, I could see how he might've felt that his life was in danger. There were three guys (the prankster douche, his buddy, and the camera man) surrounding him, and the prankster douche was a whole head and shoulders taller than him. If a group of guys just started surrounding me for seemingly no reason whatsoever, I'd feel threatened.
Your being over dramatic. It’s bad, but getting shot is too much Much.
@@tfyk5623 Well, obviously. I feel that perhaps pulling out his firearm and telling them to stop again, and seeing whether or not they back off would've been a fairly appropriate course of action. But instantly blasting the guy the second he took out his firearm was a definite overreaction.
@@Andrew-ij3mhnah, in close quarters like this, brandishing can result in losing control of your firearm. Especially when the guy is so much more physically imposing and likely stronger than you.
@@Andrew-ij3mhthe only time you point your gun to something is to kill. If its not warrant a killing, then dont point it at all.
@@tfyk5623 Lets say those dudes were out for evil and decided to end that guys life... then did he have the right to shoot? Oh too late he is dead and you don't care. But you do care about some dude intimidating another person? You also decided you being an armchair quarterback after the matter is something everybody should be able to do in the moment and a relevant argument. You need to get your brain checked.
Why can’t we have like… wholesome prankster vlogger CZcamsrs. Like going up to strangers and being like “OMG are you the model who I’m here to meet for the shoot? Wow the pictures don’t do you justice…” or buying cookies and then going around randomly giving them to people or sneaking them into purses and backpacks. Or the confusing kind, like running up as a gang and carrying a car across the intersection during the pedestrian walk signal or flipping stuff around when people aren’t looking. It’s still pranks but it’s so much less obnoxious and more something the target can look back on and scratch their head or smile rather than shudder in disgust.
The only sad thing about this is that he survived.
Something I feel I should add to this, from someone who works delivery right now and was once a plumber in new orleans working in the worst parts of the city. Stuff this prankster was doing is VERY much something that happens as a pretext to a mugging or robbery. Same with putting cans or bottles behind your car wheels so you get distracted to remove them. You see a group of people waiting for you its better to gtfo. Someone comes up asking you to check out something on their phone randomly, acts crazy like this, or trying to sell you something randomly and you better be ready. People target delivery drivers all the time, to the point its one of THE most dangerous jobs in the world. Part of the reason maglights are common for tradeworkers and delivery folks is not just because you can spot addresses and see your way, but because those things will do major damage as a weapon. I've been through many an attempted mugging as a delivery driver and plumber, I've even had guns in my face and almost been shot a few times. While I don't carry, if prankster mcfukface kept it up I likely would have pepper sprayed, stun gunned him, or hit him with a maglight. You don't take chances, thats how you get stabbed, shot, and/or killed.
And to all the muggers and robbers out there, gig app people don't work with cash we don't carry that on us. They pay us $2 an order you really think we got money? You all probably got more than we do, leave us alone if we're in your neighborhood we're just bringing your neighbors food and groceries when many places won't. Chill.
at that point i would just exercise your 2A after the 1st gun in your face. sorry you have to deal with that shit
Bros the Batman of delivery
People like you don’t get the respect you deserve. I genuinely hope things get better for you as time goes on! Also, I hafta say, concealed carry is a good way to tell the person you’re delivering to a message to not mess with me. Js.
Came looking for this. One of my friends was almost mugged or worse by some dude with a knife who was at first asking for directions. Only made it away safely because they were carrying something bigger.
I don't feel it's right for Charlie to call this dude unhinged for his response. As silly as it may seem at first, this idiot Tanner and his friend got this man's attention and well within striking distance of him for far, far longer than needed to get whatever hits in they'd like. Had they half a mind to cause him harm, they had the numbers and the opportunity to do so, and Colie(idk howto spell his name) simply doesn't know what these guy's intention is when they keep following him like this.
What he does know, is that if it comes to a fistfight, he's n o t winning. And that's a chance you don't take with folks you don't know. Colie shot this man to stop him, not to kill him. It's why he only fired once.
As much as I hated it I miss new Orleans so much. I lived in NYC before I lived there so I got an "easier" schooling in how to act in the ghetto.
The best part is how all these news stations are using the line
"he brought a gun to a cell phone fight"
He didn't bring anything to a fight, a fight came to him and he had happaened to have a gun.
That's I'm saying! Dude kept running up on someone like he's gonna swing and he's surprised he got shot 🤦♂️
Listen if a big stranger gets that close it is intimidation, this is self-defense
A citizen trying to make a living, while clearly having mental health issues now has to spend 2-10 years in prison for shooting a gun inside... i wonder if he'll be better or worse coming out of prison.. and this prankster is litterally mocking them on the news.. pathetic world we live in
It's very clear the parents are the problem here. Her mom looks so proud of him in that interview.
Pretty sure that was his lawyer but yeah the parents definitely suck i remember when the shooting happened the dad was saying he did nothing wrong
His*
I’ve been legitimately socked in the face and almost robbed by a similar situation. Pretty big guy showing me something on his phone to distract me “asking for directions” then suddenly tried to grab me and punched me. Random people talking to you can be normal. But someone actively trying to get in your face acting weird is definitely a dangerous situation. The only thing that was a loss here is that idiot didn’t get shot in the head.
The thing is your situation was an actual assault, hence you NEED to use lethal force to defend yourself. This situation tho, there was no immediate threat, it was just someone being extremely annoying. The victim here could have easily stopped at pulling out the gun to warn them that he feels threatened, and that they should leave him the fck alone. Going straight to shooting is where he's in the wrong. No amount of harassment he endures gives him the right to try to take another person's life, unless that harassment is actually going to end his life right then and there.
@@ucmanhvuong4301you are wrong with everything you just said. first of all how is culley suppose to know theres no immediate threat? honestly answer that fucking question, if a normal person came up to you asking for directions or asking you to listen to a "strange voice mail" and got close are you really saying that you have no reason to suspect SOME sort of threat? these people three of them in fact came up to him and were harassing him, they were BIGGEr than he was, so he had every right to assume they were threatening him especially when his hand was shoved out of his face and he immediately put it back in culleys face which is in that moment assualt against culley. he coldnt have known that this was a "prank" and he had three large men standing against him and were trying to corner him. shooting was the best option he had and he made the right move by shooting the harasser. in these cases you can never know until hindsight if the threat was real or imagined, but in the moment you never know and you have to use your best guess and like OP said. normal looking people came up to him, asked him questions and he paid the price for it when he didnt suspect foul play or any threats. culley as far as anyone should be concerned made the right choice by pulling out his gun and shooting. and like OP said its only a shame that the harasser lived.
@@moviemaker2011z bruh in what aspect was he being cornered, do you even know what corner means? He could have easily solved the problem of them scaring him by scaring them back with the gun and then make his way to a safer place if he believes they are an actual threat. Here he didn't even give a warning at all and just shot first. What kinda of mental gymnastic are you using to even justify shooting first and ask question later? Kinda reminds me of the whole fiasco of police shooting ppl in their homes bcs neighbors report them, just bruh.
@@ucmanhvuong4301 Yes. His story was an actual assault. That's the point. The entire "prank" was set up to imitate the prelude to a violent confrontation by strangers. The entire point was to make the victim fear that they were going to get assaulted. The delivery guy has probably been mugged exactly like this before. He doesn't have the luxury of going back in time and tailoring his response to facts revealed only in the aftermath. That's a _very_ basic concept.
Also: pulling out a pistol at that distance and not using it is a good way to lose it and get shot yourself. Even if it made them back off and drop their act, he still would have likely been charged just for brandishing the weapon.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC lol ok he got off of straight up shooting a person and you're telling me to believe he would get charged for brandishing his gun to scare off harassers? I dunno ig that's just Westerner/Americans for ya.
And obviously I didn't say to just show his guns and do nothing. Just turn around, point the gun at them and slowly back away to make distance, all the while giving out warnings. He at least should utter ONE warning abt lethal force before actually using it ffs. Your argument is why police can just straight up shoot ppl in their own home without a second thought
Wait…. So they determined it WAS self defense… but he’s getting in trouble for firing his weapon in public?
What’s he supposed to do, wait to see if they follow him home? Self defense is ok… but not in a public place? This makes no sense
He's 6' 5", and has 2 friends.
I am already in fear for my life.
A key thing is that, after he pushed the guy's hand out of his face, the "prankster" immediately put his hand back where it was. When somebody uses physical force to remove you from their personal space, and you immediately invade it again, you are in a physical altercation (a fight).
Maybe legally… but we all know that’s not really a fight. this shooting was not justified at all… I think everyone is just having an emotional response and sympathizing with the shooter because of how painfully annoying Tanner is.
@@NittyGritty420yes, legally, where it matters.
He was a delivery guy who's probably been robbed a few times already. Who knows what he's been through before this point. You only need to be held up once to say "Shoot first, details later".
Police be like
He would be a perfect police officer.
@@dildino6199durr police bad durr
@@ganggang8812Yeah exactly
Hey look, I found a few of the troggs that must watch this "prankster's" videos and guffah.
seeing charlie’s smile sparked a gleam in my eye and a slight palpitation of the heart. my grandmother was watching as well and now she can walk again. my goodness, may charlie inspire millions once more
He pursued the victim. The victim may have been afraid of being harmed and protected himself.
With 2 guys being aggressive and up in your face like that, one of them a much larger guy. The situation could’ve escalated and you’d be out on your ass in seconds. It was a legitimate scary situation for the harassed.
Just substitute the guy for a women, and you can clearly see that it was a situation where fear for bodily harm is a serious concern.
Bullshit. This is a public place, not a dark place at night. there is no excuse and no world where you can justify someone shooting someone like a psycho with a trigger finger because they are just playing something on their phone for you. Psychos with guns are a problem in the US as we know. America is the problem. Watch Remi gaillard, classic prankster that everyone loves but in the US would be at risk of being shot lol. His pranks can be intrusive sometimes but they are harmless. Only in the US are people always "escalating". Because you psychos have no chill
I don’t see what he did wrong here. He was told to stop he didn’t stop actions were taken 🤷
@@anthonywick6890ya, that’s why everyone agrees this was self defense. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
@@contone you think that? i wouldn't really shoot a guy for being obnoxious
@@luluna5228it’s worse than obnoxious if you’re not aware what the deal is, the point of the video could be to assault people not just annoy them, how are we supposed to know? It wouldn’t be the first time some crazy ass kids record themselves fucking somebody up
Its a pretty simple example of "fuck around and find out"
As a former delivery driver people will act crazy/strange to get close to us and attack. The delivery driver legitimately did nothing wrong and was only protecting himself
It's not *the most* appropriate response, but when you've got a guy looming over you, chasing you, refusing to respond in a human manner, all while playing some unintelligible incantation on his phone, I can see why Cole felt threatened. Who knows what's coming next? Zero sympathy from me.
I wonder if he has been mugged or messed with before and that's why he was armed and ready to defend himself. Doordash workers are no strangers to attempted robberies.
Yeah same here, can see why he did it but resorted to that way too early. If these morons followed him to his car then there is no disputing that. I'd be scared as fuck if some weirdos taller than me followed me to my car.
I was grabbed by a dude one time holding his phone up asking me random questions about a place. I don't have a gun but thankfully people were there and stepped in.
I don't blame the guy for being concerned when they pressed him and didn't stop
Exactly. Maybe the gun was a bit much but if you follow me around while sticking a phone in my face and refuse to leave me alone? I'm swinging
Exactly. Going around shooting people for harassment isn’t good or something we should celebrate, but at the same time it’s good that it’s been made clear to these asshole “pranksters” that there are consequences with harassing strangers on the street and that you aren’t invincible just because there’s a camera on you
It's really sad how the ones normally bullying others are protected by the system, shooting him wasn't right, but letting a man who was harassed serve time while the harasser gets to continue harassing others is insane.
Without the context of it being a prank the "prank" looked like a few dudes setting the delivery driver up to get jumped from behind while he was distracted, completely reasonable shooting in that situation
The court assumes 'street justice' was a sufficient consequence. Clearly not. Technically it's precedent that -if- when something happens to him again, it's indefensibly his fault.
@@fartywartymcfartheadagreed 2 men one being much larger than him, following him i wouldve pulled my gun
it was in a goddamn mall. call the staff team, call security, LITERALLY DO ANYTHING EXCEPT SHOOTING THE GUY LIKE WHAT???? the shooter is mentally ill if his first reaction to someone aggravating him with camera behind him is to shoot him point blank. it wouldve made sense if they were alone and it was nighttime. but during fucking daytime when so many people around, im sure theres a guard just a few steps away from him. like come on how the fuck are yall even supporting the shooter? the prankster is an ass, we get it, but that doesnt excuse this
He isn’t serving time tho
He was acquitted
The end him coming out of the court seems like his parents will just bail him out, he probably never had to worry about anything in his life.
Following someone, pushing a phone in their face after they are clearly feeling threatened, is assault.
I’m sure this prankster will harm others. He doesn’t respect boundaries and he likes making people feel uncomfortable. It’s some serious psychopathy.
Mark my words: Keep an eye on that one.
It always escalates from making someone uncomfortable to physical touch to make someone scared then there’s just genuine violence
He'll be walking with a limp now
Yep. He’s a predator, predators don’t respect boundaries.
Sometimes people forget what pranks actually are. They just do anything and call it a prank
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Maybe it was too far but pulling out a gun in that situation is such an overkill. In any other country that wouldn't have happened in but in America. To me it looks like the guy wanted to shoot him and thought it was a good chance to pull out his gun and later claims it to be self-defence.
America is based. coming from Asia.@@carsforpeople3351
@@carsforpeople3351 So you can read minds through the screen? Lol, stop lying. 🤣
Dude shouldn't have gotten ANY jail time for this.
The worst are the "pranksters" that go into some area and do things they know will trigger certain groups, such as going to a rough part of a downtown area and asking someone if they want a quick "fade," only to pull out hair clippers
I’ve seen to many of these “pranks” online that are just assaulting people or damaging property. I read a Reddit post of a woman chased by a teenager with a machete who sued after she ran tripped and broke her leg. Tanner is massive compared to this guy and it only takes one punch for Colie to never see his family again or live with a serious head injury for the rest of his life, it was completely justified.
He was neither assaulting someone, or damaging property? If I were to shoot anyone pestering me in public, like the local pastor who constantly screams about god, am I justified in shooting him to death? Like bro, imagine Eric Andre getting shot in the street for doing something bizarre, you are just overplaying the incident to justify shooting people.
What was the result of that lawsuit, if you know?
@@sjk7467I’d also like to know, hope she won.
Anyone who says this is justifiable is crazy. I see a punch or anything else. Hell, he could have just warned him that he had a gun. The fact that he took no hesitation to shoot some in a mall is wild. Especially since he didn’t even look that threatening. The only thing he did was put his phone up with words that he didn’t even understood, and started following him with it.
@@blakefantasy2600 Why would he have thrown a punch at someone a full head taller than him with two buddies that are also bigger than him? As someone who is not american and doesn't have a gun culture it is weird to me this was possible to have happened, although saying that it is clear that he was trying to leave, but was being followed and had no way of knowing what their intentions were