you're joking but this is literally what solitary confinement is, a prisoner acts up and they get chucked in a pit and forgotten about for a few hours to a few days
Funny enough a lot of female prisoners will target child abusers (similar to male prisons with pedophiles) so she is going experience some trouble while in there
It doesnt really fail children, it has red tape and cannot do anything without enough evidence. I used to get spanked by my parents when I did something wrong, and at the time as a dumb kid I hated them for it. But looking back on it I turned into a well adjusted adult and rarely make big mistakes that I see most zoomers making. If I had the chance I probably wouldve cried to CPS and had they taken me away from my family I always would have regretted it. So it's a good thing CPS does not have the power to simply break up families because the kid asked them to. And it's incredibly ignorant to blame them for this situation.
@ciscornBIG My mother was a foster kid, she was lucky, my nana was an amazing woman and foster mom. Sounds like shes one of the few. There are... Horrible, horrible stories from so many foster kids, and CPS fails them time and time again. It's genuinely so horrific, and it's not changing. Its not quite a foster situation but a kid my younger brother knows took refuge at my parents place a while, but kept getting sent back to her very abusive(documented, she's got multiple assaults on file) grandma because CPS would rather "keep her in the family." And "not cause unnecessary trauma", cause y'know beaten little girls running half naked to a neighbors home at 2AM is clearly just a "misunderstanding" and "different generation" problem
The "how did cps not listen to the actual victim" line was just... They don't, ever, listen to the actual victims unless someone dies. I reported my own stepfather to cps, and I was terrified that they'd mishandle the case like they had with so many others (I'd seen what happened to one of my friends when cps told her abuser to his face who reported him, and I still called them, I was that desperate), but they didn't, because they never even picked it up. I never reached out for help again, and I still have issues trusting reporting agencies.
child protection services? more like child endangerment services, they sell their kids so potential p3d0s, they have had a history of child trafficking. how is this allowed
my sister did that when she was like... 15 for attention (my family is absolutely amazing except my previous step dad he sucks) and they rolled up and nearly took us from our parents in a case with zero evidence... they go too hard in cases with zero evidence and too soft in cases with all the evidence
The fact that people had been reporting this for years, and the police didn’t get involved until they were forced to because a child escaped is unfathomable to me.
It's all about money and the government. Not saying that CPS is greedy, just underfunded. A lot of the times they don't have enough staff or money to care for the child in need. And the government doesn't care unless there they are forced too. Same reason orphanages and foster homes suck: government doesn't care about kids.
@@ClownHoundII CPS doesn't give a shit about children. There's a ton of cases where they prefer to keep the child in a meth house than with a father or other relatives that are normal and willing to take in the child just because: "Children need their mother" excuse.
If we were back in the old days of CZcams when users didn't get paid, I guarantee you that at least 9 out of 10 CZcamsrs wouldn't act the way they do for the cameras. The ones who aren't spreading wisdom are doing wacky things for clicks.
probably had a primarily religious fanbase which is fine with beating their children, u want proof go look up how to train up your child from the pearl family, its a whole book on how to physically and mentally abuse their kids.
Not the dad acting like the kids are torn up that their self proclaimed demon of a mom is arrested lol. “Trying to keep the family together after her arrest” sounds more like “I care about my psychotic wife more than my kids.”
Have you any idea how taxing it is being a single parent? It's good that she got arrested and is facing justice, but to act like this isn't putting a huge burden on the man for him to have to balance caring for his kids, maintaining the household, and keeping his career so as to be able to financially provide for the family is just incongruous with his reality.
@@godofmath1039he also perpetrated the abuse, he is not a single father, he’s a single monster and I hope those kids get an *actual* escape because he isn’t it
@@godofmath1039 You please, 2 of them are already adults and 3 of the kids are able to work part-time while going to school to help out pay some things.
I come from an abusive household. I normally can handle things discussing abuse but this made me ugly cry. Charlie saying “it’s not tough love its FUCKING ABUSE” had me crying not in a good way. I shouldn’t have been abused like I was. I shouldn’t have had to waste so many years trying to drink the pain away. I shouldn’t have had to do years of medication so I didn’t try to kill myself every waking moment. I shouldnt flinch everyone someone raises their hand at me. People don’t realize it but a lot of parents and people deem actual abuse as good parenting. CPS is also to blame. Gabriel Hernandez died from the abuse he received from his parents before CPS even stepped in and said okay that’s enough. It’s tragic.
im so sorry you had to go all through that. i am very proud of you for staying strong man. My parents love me to death but my heart aches to the kids who dont get love from someone they expect the most of it. My heart goes out to all the people who suffer this type of situation. I just pray to god that they get out of it soon and strong. Again, im proud of you man and i hope that you live your life with much more happiness and peace now. Jai shree ram :)
@@stutiarya7623 thank you!! I’m much happier now since I’ve left my parents. I hate seeing or knowing that other kids are gettting abused because I know what it’s like firsthand. It’s kind of given me a superpower though that I can easily tell if someone is a good or shitty person. Sucks tho when I know they’re a shitty person and they have kids cause it’s likely they’ll grow up to be suicidal:/
Ik when he said “how did cps not believe the legitimate victim “ flashed me back to the dozens of cops and cps workers therapist etc video audibly and physically having proof of abuse and being told I was hitting Jayden or orchestrating it even as an adult my peers seem to not believe or understand how bad it rly wat
I'm a survivor of filicide and extremely severe life threateneing child abuse in a domestically abuisve home, I also saw the documentary of Gabrield Fernandez, and wholeheartedly 100% agree and relate to your comment above. I am now permantelty disabled in multiple ways more than just 3 ways and now need living aid assitnence because of my familys toxic abuse. it has virutally destroyed my life. albiet THANK FUCK I did not grow up in a Family YT channel so at least all those fucking moments of torture were never caught on camera for the world to see, but I feel very strongly that those children should have been taken out of their home STAT as soon as there was evidence enough to take them out. and I really *REALLY* hope Ruby Franke never gets out of prison and I also hope they forget to feed her too.
I feel ya. When we hear others validate our feelings of unfairness, it's frightening because we expect to not only not be believed, but to get chastised for speaking up. So, yeah. The ugly crying comes, but please, PLEASE let it. KNOW that we're here. That people understand, care AND want you to heal. I'm so proud of you for sharing a little bit with us! I know it's not easy! ❤❤❤
she has 2.5 million subscribers most who are supporting her, of course she feels like what shes doing is okay. what people should take from this situation is that the general population cant be trusted to understand reality
@@venuae but it's not about feeling if it's okay, it's about enjoying it in a sadistic way. most of the abuse these children experienced was not documented, not filmed. the bruises from being tied up, the bruises from being beaten, the malnourishment. so it goes beyond just what her viewers thinks is okay. we need to understand that there's people in this world who thrives on the sense of power that hurting others cause. there's genuinely sadistic people who gets enjoyment out of causing suffering on other people, even their own children. this woman has a personality disorder.
And the kid was 6 years old. That's it. She was 6 when Ruby refused to bring the kid food. A six year old child was "responsible" of packing her own lunch.
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"food privileges" "bedroom privileges" the fact that such bare necessities were seen as privileges in the household is absolutely terrifying
This is what narcissists do, they make bare necessities in the home any sort of privilege. I had this happen when i was a kid too and it took a long time to know that it was abuse
@@CadetRedShirtI didn’t realize that my parents were abusive until I joined the military, sometimes being distant gives the necessary view change to see through the lies that cover up abuse
I was a victim of child abuse. I tried to get cps involved, my friends and their families tried to get cps involved, my school tried to get cps involved and there was no rescuer, I had to endure s*ual, violent and verbal assult for 19 years of my life because I couldn't show a written statement of them admitting to anything regardless of my scars, bruises or mental health so long as they kept denying and the ''family'' kept singing their praises and protecting them - either knowing or acting oblivious to what they were doing - NOTHING gets done. I may not be from the US but its safe to say cps is a flawed and broken system accross the globee and I have to live with a lifetime of mental scars for it. I hope these kids can find some sembelance of a happy life going forward, they'll never have normalicy but at least they can hopefully find security and heal.
As someone from an abusive household (in different ways from this), it infuriates me that the general public supports these kinds of parents because “tough love!! This is REAL parenting!!” Or “back in my day…” like no, Karen, hitting your kids and berating them , beating them, staving them and locking them up is not just “good old fashioned parenting”, it’s awful, it’s abusive, and it’s why I’m studying to be a child psychologist right now
**this is a critique of morons who abuse their children** You don't beat your children, starve them, and revoke theirhuman rights? What kind of parent are you? How are they going to get disciplined?
What is extra sickening is when you think of the fact that even if they are convicted they will be sent to prison... Where they will get a bed, not a bean bag, and get 3 meals a day. They will be receiving a lighter criminal punishment for child abuse in a literal jail than the punishment their child faced for pranking a sibling.
Yeah, but bean bags are more comfortable than those prison beds. And the food isn't good either. I get what you're trying to say ... but it's inaccurate in reality.
Her daughter, Eve, was 6 at the time of the lunch thing. Imagine even expecting a six year old to make and pack their own lunch every morning. That alone is a red flag.
Thanks for the context, if the kid was in middle/highschool I'd 100% agree that their lunch could be their own responsibility, she could probably have done it herself if her mother actually bothered to teach her and remind her until it became routine but I'm guessing she just said "make your own food" and walked away.
I am from Utah, where this family is based, and I grew up in a broken household with an abusive mother that refused to get proper treatment for her bipolar disorder, PTSD and severe depression. CPS services were involved in my life for a majority of my childhood, and I can confidently say that CPS and DCFS are completely useless more than 90% of the time in Utah. The abuse has to be blatant, the conditions for the children have to be deplorable for them to even act, and even then they are lacking. We told them that we didn’t feel safe, that my mother would stay in bed for days or weeks at a time and leave me and my 5 year old sister to fend for ourselves, expecting a 7 year old boy to prepare dinner and take care of everything. When CPS would be involved, we told them we had no food and she wouldn’t feed us. Yet CPS fell for every lie and trick that my mother could come up with. They are incredibly unsympathetic to the child and will almost always believe the parent/legal guardian. All my mother has to do was maintain appearances when CPS would get involved and they would fall for it. Every. Single. Time.
I feel the main reason nobody did anything for so long is because MANY MANY adults with kids who hate them have a 1950’s mindset where they UNIRONICALLY think emotional availability, food, and care will raise “a soft generation.” Realistically, Kevin probably took some sort of plea deal with heavy restrictions surrounding his children and the internet, since people would really prefer that kids don’t have both of their parents arrested. Since it was implied that the mom was the executor of most of the abuse, she’s probably the one people want arrested the most. The dad is just as wrong for letting it happen, but it gets really nuanced and complicated from here.
As someone who suffered through parental abuse, i will say. I went to authorities three times, with evidence even of the abuse that myself and two younger sisters, (one being in a wheelchair due to genetic disabilities) suffered through and was ignored as a "rebellious teen". All of this happened in the state of Utah, to me and my sisters as well.
I lived in a household with an emotionally and mentally abusive step parent, who made it clear that she loathed my very existence (as did most of her family). Living in that house was fucking hell and I was basically the glorified maid and babysitter, who couldn’t do a damn thing right and would get screamed at for it, and everything had to be done perfectly. Then she would take all the credit for the things I would do, while telling everyone what an ungrateful, lazy, antisocial asshole I was, when I just wanted to make myself as small as possible and get away from all the bullshit. But trying to avoid the source of the problem apparent makes one a “hermit” and warrants more instigation. There were also a few nights I had “food privileges” revoked, because I pissed her off. (I was the scapegoat in a narcissistic family unit and my half sister was the golden child… for those who know, you know…) CPS got called a few times… but it was on my half siblings. Someone called in saying they were getting beat because they had bruises, when the reality was they would just beat the shit out of each other or jump off of the couch/out of trees and shit (because no one was watching them most of the time- something I’d get screeched at for, when my step mom slept all day) and CPS didn’t even acknowledge my existence, any of the times they were called out. In therapy sessions, she would sit in with me and pretend to be my best friend. Like, of course I’m not going to say, “this bitch has been doing some abusive shit”, while she’s in the room, but I didn’t even really register what was going on, either, back then, and that it was wrong, because it had become so normalized for me. It took me being out of the situation for about 10 years to realize something had been wrong. And when I came forward to family members about it, the biggest slap in the goddamn face was, exactly like in this case, them knowing (or suspecting) something was going on and doing nothing about it… And I get that there’s nothing to be done, now, but most just treat it like, “whoopsie poopsie. Our bad! Be like jesus and just forgive and forget, eh?” That shit just makes me even more spiteful, like wow… you suspected some shit was amiss and now you’re pulling the, “sorry fam. We good?”, card…
Being from Utah and knowing how poorly they handle abuse cases, similar to the Gabby Petito case, I'm saddened to say that I'm not surprised they let this situation fall through the cracks.
she did this openly and laughed about it. if this doesn’t tell you that cps is corrupt and ineffective idk what does. cps came to my house a total of 7 times growing up and did absolutely nothing. the abuse i suffered lasted for my entire childhood. i had a case record longer than the fucking bible and cps didn’t gaf. i hope she gets what she deserves
@@bird2797 yes if actually doing it themselves. But if you're comparing specifically looking at something like these videos, compared to actively abusing them I'd say it's a little more blurry. Although, everyone sucks here regardless...
There’s so much more to her evil than this. She would film her kids in the bath, film them crying and just film so many personal moments and embarrassing the children. It’s so beyond disgusting.
Saw a clip of her filming her and one of her daughters' first times getting a bra... it was so awful and horrific knowing the exact kind of audience that goes to; now her classmates might know also. I feel like a creep making a comment about it, but it should be said that some of her videos about "puberty" and overall emberessing her kids are probably heavily used by pedos. Really infuriating.
The reason nobody in Ruby’s life questioned her “parenting” (besides maybe a select few) like we on the internet did is bc she surrounded herself with people who were doing the same damn thing as her and agreed with her “parenting style”
Unfortunately charlie, as someone who comes from an abusive home. My whole family knew my father was hitting me. But there wasnt any proof that he was. Honestly reaching out to authorities HAS A CHANCE of being worse for the victims than reaching out and getting help. Its a sad messed up world we live in
Russell deserves an award for his bravery, i cannot believe how scared he must’ve been climbing out of that window. he saved 3 of his siblings. i feel for all of them and cannot believe the authorities and extended family let it get to this point. also, the day Ruby got arrested was Eve’s 10th birthday, i hope she gets all the healing she deserves and every birthday after is out of her wildest dreams.
The saddest part is that he did to only get food, not to seek help. That's just shows that those kids are so used to the abuse that they think it's normal. Jody should rot in jail for the rest of her life along with her colleagues.
As someone that went through almost the same thing. CPS showed up multiple times but I was too afraid to tell them the truth, I didn't know they could help me, so I talked to them as if they were the teachers and other strangers asking me what was going on.
The fact that all of this happened for as long as it did and she's still only been arrested on SUSPICION of child abuse makes me sick. No wonder CPS never paid any attention to my little verbal/emotional abuse case, it's ridiculous how much of this shit she decided was OKAY to show on the internet and she still is almost getting away with this! Imagine what insane shit she does OFF CAMERA!
As a former foster kid, I can confirm that CPS is incredibly bad at their job. They prefer to blame the child in the majority of the cases to avoid having to do paperwork. Actually trying to get help just causes more harm, so it's very easy to just accept the new normal. I'm glad they were finally able to escape. Still a very long road to recovery though. Trauma can be rough.
Former foster child here too! I still feel bad to this day that I was one of the lucky ones tho, while other foster siblings weren't so fortunate, even just the ones who missed their parents. The fact that I ultimately feel grateful for the foster system saving my life, cuz I most certainly would have died if I was left with my dad as a baby, I feel I don't reserve the right to say I've still also struggled, just not at the hands of the system, but by family. Was abused by my Aunt until doctor's found drugs in her urine. Yet again it was thanks to the rules of the foster system that I was able to get out of that household that very night. Wrote a whole essay on that experience.
As someone whose family was investigated by CPS several times, they also seem far more worried about families that really don't need their intervention (I lived a happy life. It wasn't always great, but certainly never bad enough for CPS.)
I moved from one foster home where I was literally thrown across the room when my carer was angry at me and as a 7 year old I just assumed it was normal so when I casually brought it up to my social worker and she told me it was because of something I did I just kept quiet about it
Not a foster kid, but my Dad and I called CPS on his ex multiple times due to her abuse to her elementary school child (she was an alcoholic who often DUI'd with her kid in the car and was generally very unstable, while also refusing to accept help for her addiction). It took months until anything was actually done (because the SCHOOL her kid went to had to get involved..she showed up like 5 hours after hours to pick up her kid drunk as hell), and even then this woman is still allowed to see her kid in the summer? feel like if you got CPS on your ass several times that should keep you from seeing your child ever again but! "mothers rights" I guess :/
This lady came and spoke at my church to all the moms and she apparently said a lot of crazy stuff and after all of the moms questioned her advice she stormed out of the church. So glad her kids are ok now
Speaking from experience as an abuse victim that faced similar "punishments" as the victims here, Ive been crying for help since the age of 9 and no one ever took me seriously. My little sister and I were actively scavenging for food and sneaking them into the house in order to survive and when I told our mom about it she assumed i was exaggerating because I was a kid. When i told my classmates about it they assumed i was lying because they met my father and he "didnt look abusive". I told my cousin, she didn’t believe me. I told my aunt, grandma, and grandpa how much i disliked my father because of his punishments and they told me he is my flesh and blood and i have to love him no matter what. Crazy thing is 14 years later after my mom finally realized that he was a piece of shit and divorced him, they still never took the abuse allegations seriously until THIS YEAR. So this story truly breaks my heart, but I am so glad they were able to escape this situation. I wish them nothing but love
It’s insane for someone to choose to have 6 children and then be so abusive to them. What a monster! Any adult responsible for allowing this to continue to happen should be arrested too!
As someone who was raised like this, someone needs to tell her straight up: her kids don’t love her, and she isn’t getting a funeral. She’s getting thrown in the river, if they even think to give her that luxury.
@@windy8544 honestly, though she seems so narcissistic and delusional to the point where she actually probably believes that they love her And even if she won’t believe them because she’s so “great” it’s still something she deserves to hear
I'd say the scariest are the ones who go unknown to the world or even to the people close to them. At least with these people publicly displaying their atrocious behaviours, intervention can take place much sooner & the kids can be rehomed in safer environments.
Justice isn’t served and it’s sad. As much time and penalties as these monsters get I can’t help but feel like these kids have flat out been robbed of a childhood they can never get back Such an infuriating story.
I want to mention one extra bit of the abuse that a lot of people don’t know about…the mom’s recordings. The mom recorded EVERY waking second of their lives. The kids didn’t have a single shred of privacy because the mom refused to give them any. There were multiple times when the kids basically begged for their mom to put the camera down and she just never did. Because of this, none of the kids were ever able to make any friends. Everyone kept their distance because of their mom J Aubrey made a whole video about this years ago, I recommend checking it out
She filmed every second of every day for years on end of her abusing them and posted it on the net for millions to see yet she was able to get away with it for THIS FUCKING LONG. What is wrong with this world!!!
Reminds me of Daddy o Five. The clips of the younger kid crying his eyes out begging them to stop filming him will be burned in my brain forever. So glad that got stopped quickly after Phillip DeFranco called it out.
How sad. Our society is sick with social media. People loose their moral compass and common decency all for likes and follows. We truly live in a black mirror episode. How scary. Poor kids
@@TezzyRsThankfully most people out there don’t do things like this, so there’s that.. but attention seekers and fame hungry people like this woman are scary
The worst part is that she was promoting her abusive actions as 'parenting tips', so there is a possibility that some of her 2.5 million viewers used her actions as an example on how to parent their kids
THAT should be an additional charge. MASS CHILD ABUSE. Because you just KNOW FULL WELL some of her watchers knew nothing about parenting and this was the first thing they saw on CZcams. Honestly CZcams ITSELF should face repercussions for allowing this shit in the first place!
The fact that they're religious too just expands their influence even further, (I think they're Mormon?) Combined with the weird additional "therapist" self-help guru lady, and I wouldn't be shocked if hundreds were already copying this behavior because of them.
Karl Marx once argued that we should abolish the family. He was wrong, but not entirely wrong. Some families should be abolished. This family and Daddy of FIve are great examples.
@@ninjacats1647 communism is an ideology with good views that can help its people, but is exploited and the people suffer. Like how these parents exploited their children.
As someone that grew up in a home with devout Mormon parents, I went through these same kinds of punishments and it’s weird to see that this wasn’t “normal” discipline for even the smallest screw ups. Including losing room privileges and made to sleep outside in the yard, meals and bathroom privileges with held to even physical and emotional abuse. Our bishop even wrote a letter to CPS and informed my parents he was sending it and nothing happened. I honestly just thought this was common for every child growing up. As an adult with my own family I would never and have ever inflicted any of this behavior but the more people I ask if their parents treated them the same way I’m shocked when they respond in horror.
Oh Charlie my sweet summer child. I know it’s surprising to hear but there are soooooo many families (mine included) that abuse their children for years and never face consequences for it. I’m super glad it’s not the case here, but there are innumerable cases just like this one that never see justice done. It’s a sad, shitty world we live in for sure.
CPS is useless that's why. Everyone jokes about them being extremely incompetent for helping real victims and forcefully separating happy families. Their motives are backwards and slow to act and it's always too damn late
The scariest thing is that out there, right freaking now, there are hundreds if not possibly thousands of parents applying her lessons of discipline to their kids...
By the looks of the subscriber count to video views, I would venture to say at least 20% of her audience watched regularly and I imagine would apply it in some form. That would indicate that around 250-500 thousand families were subjected to this in some form or another :[
The worst I've seen is when my cousins came to sleep at our house alone, my aunt weren't there (don't remember the reason). One of them was quite picky and didn't want to eat vegetables, he was 14-16 yrs old at the time. My dad sat with him for 2 hours, playing the local bingo and whatever, while he was crying that he was hungry and my father just kept repeating that there would be no 2nd serving or snacks tonight if he didn't eat the vegetables on his plate. That's tough parenting, not whatever that CZcamsr was doing.
To be fair, people are scared of the foster system, and the abuse kids can continue to go through. I kept quiet about my own abuse for years, because I was scared about what might happen to my brother. As far as I could tell, he was not being abused. If anything, he was part of my abuse, because of imitating my parents. I also didn't want to potentially make things harder on myself than they already were....
I’m glad I’m finding out about this on your channel. I will say as an abuse victim for my entire childhood this cuts deep into my psyche. I can also understand the we kept quiet to keep the children safe. Cos I know this might be hard for some people to understand, but when you’re already being punished daily and there’s no light at the end to focus on. You just pray that each day is one without more abuse than the day before. When your abuser gets wind of CPS or anything that pains them in a bad light or shining a light on their abusive ways most times is worse than your regular abuse. They feel threatened and lash out at the victims even more. I just hope the kids are happy. But from experience it’s going to damage them in ways you can’t imagine.
The family is Mormon, and their image is everything. It’s totally possible the sisters were keeping quite not only out of some obligation to protect Jody from prison, but to not taint their own extremely pristine public image. They all have family channels. All 3 of the sisters. Honestly, CPS should probably be in their houses too, considering this is the type of “parenting style” they seem to not be completely separating themselves from.
Oh yeah lots for Mormons are super cool loving and kind to children but I have seen negatives of some and its all about the ego and image to some of them. I've witnessed verbal abuse from one inside my home towards my step kids and this dudes real kids and after it I got extremely angry told him to get out of my house he refused and almost got shot for refusing to get out. Then I'm the bad guy and have to leave the state for defending his own kids from his abuse funny how those types project what they are on to others
@@I_Got_Hit_With_A_Brick Hi, I have a question. :] What's the thing about self-image to Mormons? Do ya'll have the whole "worry-more-about-what-God-thinks-than-what-others-think" teaching as well? How does it work out?
When I became a father, I started to notice the number of other parents that took it as a point of pride to brag about how harsh they punished their kids… Never understood it myself
So many parents think that simply having a child by itself means that they must be respected, instead of respecting the work it takes to actually be a GOOD parent
the fact that one of the children had to escape the house to be saved while all of this information was PUBLICLY available is sickening. meanwhile good parents who are financially struggling lose their children all the time
In my experience, alerting authorities comes with the risk of spooking mom and causing worse things for the children. Sometimes it is better to just be a supportive family member who can show them love. Not saying they should have stayed silent, but sometimes you have to choose the right moment to bring in authorities and that can be really difficult.
This woman does not love her children. She needs to stay locked up at LEAST until the children are grown and can stay away from her by their own means.
I'm glad that this type of abuse is finally being cracked down on. I remember being 14 in school using my computer time to Google "is it child abuse to not give a kid breakfast or lunch money". I ate once a day for years, my dinners were portioned for me and I was not allowed to have seconds because I was not allowed to gain weight. I was just barely over 100lbs all through high school. I was not allowed snacks. And when I tried to become vegetarian I was starved for days until I agreed to eat meat. I was also forced to do intense workouts daily and was not allowed to stop running to take a break. Thank you for agreeing that this parenting style is disgusting and abusive, it was my normal life for a long time.
as someone who comes from an abusive home, I can tell you what happens when CPS gets called They take the children to a separate room and interview them as to what they experienced and then they talk the child down saying "that's not so bad" and then they warn the parents not to be too obvious or they will have to get involved next time. they do not want the paper work or headache of actually doing their jobs. they do not believe anything short of actual broken bones is real abuse and they think a slap on the wrist will set all parents straight. they do not realize that for a parent to have gotten this bad even once means they have mentally checked out of being parents and now see their children as leaches. They do not feel remorse and they do not stop when warned.
As someone who had the displeasure of working with CPS on multiple occasions, they are the most useless organization I've ever dealt with. They either ignore our calls about kids being abused by their parents or call the police on us for harassment. The one time we did manage to get out there and meet the kid and parents, they decided that since the kid was diagnosed with ASD, staying with the family was better for his development. The same family that refuses to feed and makes the kid sleeps outside.
I'm curious what industry you work in if you have to contact CPS but also are considered "harassing" them for calling, but I also don't want to make you say what it is if you aren't comfortable doing so. Bare minimum, it's a bit nuts that legitimate calls alerting to abuse can ever be considered "harassment" of an organization whose whole purpose is dealing with such calls.
Tried to report an abuse case online and all they did was directing me from one place to another. No seem to want to take care of that case. Also made similar experiences with animal rescues/protection. They are useless when it comes to protect and rescuing animals, but super engaged when it comes to asking and collecting donation money.
This isn’t just child abuse, intentionally starving your children is attempted murder imo Edit: Did y’all really take this that seriously? To be specific, she should definitely get charged with felony reckless endangerment and criminal negligence and torture as well as the child abuse to be specific. Those should be her actual charges. Also the open wounds on the kid’s arms indicate she assaulted them with a deadly weapon which is another charge.
I work with adolescents in behavioral health and it's terrifying what some "parents" resort to in order to feel like they're maintaining control. It's sick.
What makes me even more mad is that Jodi is a therapist and is legally required to report abuse-- the fact that she knew that this was happening, did nothing and participated in the abuse makes my blood boil. She also once shared details about a therapy patient to the Mormon Church without their permission, her therapy license was put on probation for 18 months then uses her medical knowledge to brainwash patients with ideologies and methods that would surely end in license revocation. Ruby is a horrible person, and Jodi makes me sick abusing her medical license, as a healthcare worker, I hope they get the book thrown at them, and Jodi losing her therapy license.
From what I have heard over the last year or so on other channels, while Ruby has always been a nasty piece of work, by all accounts Jodi actually made her worse.
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Jodi had her license suspended once already in 2012 for 18 months for reporting private patient information to his church leaders which led to him being excommunicated and thrown out of college. Direct quote from the guy who's privacy she violated, “She just lied wherever she went to [further] an agenda to destroy my life,” said the man, who objected to bills that were as high as $2,000 a month. “We came there for marriage counseling, and she pulled us into her porn marathon.” She's always been a shit therapist.
As an abuse vic, CPS is a joke. They visited my house 8 times and no steps were taken to get me or my siblings out of our situation. Half the time they didn't even interact with any of us, just spoke with my parents. I'm not surprised that they failed here, too. As long as a house looks somewhat clean and doesn't smell like actual fecal matter, a child is probably not getting out of an abusive situation and if they do, you'd be surprised to see the parents actually punished. EDIT: To clarify, I mean CPS incompetent in both ways--They'll step in when there are little to no issues present and won't do anything in actual cases of abuse.
not true my house was so messy growing up when CPS came, never took us away.....not even a messy house works, if you have parents who can talk their way out of it your fucked and stuck in an abusive household
@@queendefaultdefault1080 CPS/Dyfcs is a joke only designed to make others feel like we are doing something about children but the truth is that system isn't designed to really handle taking children. That is why they keep kids with the abusive parent. I reality its no hope, and only thing you can do is escape and hope some good soul is willing to help.
@queendefaultdefault1080 agreed. I went through something similar. It took my teacher noticing bruises I unintentionally revealed to get an investigation started. Granted, my family talked their way out of it, until my oldest brother ended up in juvenile detention. When they did a physical on him, they discovered all the broken bones he had (a vast majority weren't set, and healed wrong). ONLY THEN did CPS step up and take me, and my middle brother out. And yes, my brother and I also had fudged up broken bones. It's a darn shame it took my oldest brother getting a criminal record to get us out of there. And it was also the kick in the pants my mother needed to get away from our abuser, cuz it was the only way to get us back.
Because studies have proven that relatively speaking taking a child away from their family does more damage psychological. I’m not at all defending abuse but it’s a lose lose for the child no matter what. It’s extremely traumatic to take a child away from their home, even if it is abusive. Obviously I’m this case it was necessary but imagine a preteen being placed in a foster home, that would most likely do more l damage to the child than an average abusive house hold. And again, for the cases that involves injury, potential death etc. it’s obviously more beneficial to go to a foster home. You can’t cure or fix bad parenting, no matter what the child will most likely suffer, CPS tends to go for the lesser evil of just letting the child stay in the abusive household since studies have proven that a child ON AVERAGE will be more traumatized and will have a worse environment
The worst thing is this stuff happens all the time.. I had a coworker who had a classmate when she was in middle school who was being SA by her father and everyone knew! The school and her classmates contacted CPS and Police over and over again with evidence and nothing happened till they found out she was pregnant at like 13/14…
what saddens me about this situation is how i wish the teacher could've reported this sooner, they're literally mandated reporters for child abuse and such but not everyone can see the signs. i'm just hoping the children will get their justice and hopefully, get taken in by someone who actually cares about them. i don't trust the father at all.
You’d be surprised how common it is for children to not get help from either authorities or cps when dealing with child abuse and or neglect no matter how much evidence or witnesses or anything are in play and it’s a genuinely massive issue No one talks about
The only ones who talk about it are the survivors, but we are seen as hysterical, especially since many of us developed mental illnesses as a result of the trauma of being raised in an abusive home for 18+ years
Who would be surprised? People who haven't been paying attention? CPS under-reacts when the situation is serious and overreacts when it's minor. How many dead children have we seen on the news? When the abuse was apparent to everyone - except the government? But they don't hesitate to save the children from the poor and weed smoke.
"deep lacerations from being tied up with rope" sends shivers down my spine. People don't understand how dangerous this is if you actually try to use it to restrain someone. Even within the BDSM community rope is treated with the upmost respect because of how much damage you can accidentally do, from cutting off blood flow to damaging nerves if you don't know exactly what you're doing you can really quickly cause permanent damage to someone or even kill them, especially if you leave them unattended which she evidently seemed to do.
EXACTLY. you can cause permanent nerve damage to a fully grown adult, i cant imagine how serious it could get with a growing kid. i feel so fucking bad for those kids and hope that boy hasnt sustained any permanent physical damage because. lord knows those kids will have years of mental scars, i cant imagine the constant reminder of the abuse through sustained nerve damage...
The news is saying none of this. Only youtubers like Charlie are covering this the way it should be. CZcams failed, the government failed, and worst of all, the family failed these poor children. One of them was able to finally save them all. If these things can happen and seen on the internet for everyone and nothing is done, I don't want to imagine what happens behind closed doors. Children need their own special interest groups so there can be done real systematic change in favor of their well-being and safety.
CPS harassed me and my family for months because one of our neighbors said we were home on a school day. We were homeschooled, had all the correct paperwork, had engaging social lives and a super healthy family. Still CPS showed up at our door asking for me (I was 9) every two weeks. We had to go to court. Anyway, I CANNOT believe that cps will take a call from a Karen in our neighborhood into account, and not take legitimate calls of abuse into account. Cps has limited resources and it uses it on nothing. It’s infuriating. Even when I was 9 I kept on thinking “don’t they have better stuff to do?” Yes, yes they do.
That's government agencies in the USA for you. Instead of going after the stuff they're actually supposed to, they go after stuff that either isn't illegal, or shouldn't be illegal. People talk about how cops have a power trip issue, but government agents are SO much worse, and aside from the FBI, they barely handle the real issues.
CPS also harassed us. We were poor but made things work. But they'd look for anything they could find to take us away. It's always the families that aren't abusive and fucked up that they wanna destroy, working months to have those kids taken. But when children are actually being abused and neglected, when kids are part of an actual shitty household, CPS turns the other cheek so fast you wouldn't believe.
@@freakymoejoe2homeschool isnt always in religious families sometimes its parents who want their children to have an actual education instead of what they’re being “taught” at school
It’s funny how people gave my parents shit for spanking me and my brother when we beat the shit out of each other, sure we were punished but they never starved us
In our defense I’ve seen so many videos against them over about 4 years and comments supporting. I totally agree when it comes to fucking CZcams and Google and their greedy fucking asses
What's worse, this vile woman didn't even _try_ to hide how psychotic she is! She showed & *proudly* told everyone exactly how cruel she was to her kids. And still, this was allowed to continue for YEARS. So many people failed those kids. This has to be stopped.
Because there are so many people who consider themselves "tough parents" but are just abusive. And they don't view that kinda of stuff as serious red flags
If she really was trying to be a good parent, she would at least be upset about it. My parents spanked me as a kid, but they didn't want to and always treated it as a last resort. If you are smiling about punishing your children, take that as a sign there's something wrong with you and get help.
@@ScottyDoesntKnow69me and my family were in the system. no matter how many cries me and my brother gave telling these fucks that we loved our mother they still threatened to take us away cause she would sometimes spank us. then one lady who was with CPS ditched me in the middle of a busy street cause i have adhd and was an annoying ass kid. cant stress it enough, FUCK cps
As a victim to abuse, not as severe as this but still enough to turn heads, social workers, police, cps, etc. are not much help sometimes. The children’s words get twisted and turned so they become less credible which is why this happens. It’s why I lost trust in police because they weren’t there when me and my siblings needed it
So, I was taken off of my mom by CPS but not until I was around 12. I told people but no adults remotely took me seriously. Once I told the principal at school that my mom was abusive and she said “mommies don’t do that” and did nothing, but she told my parents so guess what happened. How messed up is it that people were actually concerned and no one was doing ANYTHING for these poor kids. It just continues.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I really hope that you were able to move on and heal from that and that you were placed somewhere where you were loved and cared for, with people who helped you process and heal and thrive.
This is why as a survivor of child abuse will say that just because someone has the biological ability to create a child does not mean they should be a parent. I hope this woman and her sister are locked away for life and the children get better parental figures and lots of therapy.
@@Tamo_thehighschoolartist Thanks! I’ve been in therapy for the past 10 years to process what I have been through. It was hell for sure and I ended up cutting off contact with my abusive parent for my own mental health and betterment.
it's not her sister, actually. hildebrant is a cult leader that roped ruby into another cult after ruby and kevin split. not that ruby needed to be in *another* cult to be abusive, but her actual sisters are pretty appalled by this information apparently
The incredibly sad thing is how many children get abused like this and often nothing is ever done about it. Poor kids, like you said, how on earth could they have gotten away with that for soo long dispite them literally uploading evidence if their abuse on the Internet! Madness.
About the sisters and saying they were keeping quiet to protect the kids: the way I interpret this, perhaps for my own sanity, is that they meant it in the same way that it's not wise to tell a friend's abusive SO that you're going to get them to safety. When an abuser gets the idea or knows that their control is in jeopardy, existing under them becomes so much more dangerous. I think the sister's statement means that they were not vocal and using their platforms to bring attention to the fact that they were making attempts behind the scenes to get those kids away from their monstrous parents.
Not even did they take Chad's bedroom away, but they also sent him to a wilderness camp (one of the flavors of child abuse camps where careless parents send their kids to strip them of any life force) and if you look at footage of him before and after, it looks like he aged 10 years in a few months. And do you know WHY they punishes him so severely? For telling his little brother that they were going to Disneyland when they weren't.
@@ollytropics1735 Doesn't change the fact that they did it though. Those "troubled teen" camps are f*cking awful. There is little to no oversight. Physical, mental, and sexual abuse runs rampant. Multiple children have died at these places, and even more have gone on to commit suicide after leaving. Some parents literally sign their parental rights over to these facilities. Some places will kidnap kids from their beds in the middle of the night. It's absolutely disgusting that these awful places are allowed to still operate and continue to hurt children.
That’s probably not why. They are super duper Mormon, and there is a strong purity culture there. It’s more likely that they caught him jerking off, or something they think of as the same thing, like watching media they think of as too sexual. In that world, sexual ‘sin’ is akin to murder. And they probably wouldn’t be willing to tell the whole internet that their child was ‘sinning’ in such a way, but it wouldn’t be unusual to send a kid away to one of these punitive camps over some manner of sexual ‘sin’.
So glad others get to see this terrible situation and agree it's horrible. CZcams and Instagram and their other media sights refused to hear any complaints for sooooooooooo long. My cousin showed me this family in their start and told me " that you see that. That's not right. If anyone does that you it's not right".
no the real scariest part is that this happens all the time, and the childeren arent always lucky enough that the parents posted the crimes on social media
As a fully grown adult who had an abusive father that did some of the exact things this monster did to those kids, I truly feel for them. No child deserves to go hungry for misbehaving. Ever. My dad was a monster, and this woman is too.
Exactly terribly parenting to even think letting them go hungry is teaching them a lesson. Do some actual parenting instead of abusing them and calling it a lessom
sadly, this kind of stuff is more common than it shows on the internet. That's why I feel like all of us should be talking about this sort of stuff more often. What the mom of '8 passengers' did was just about as bad as the Turpin parents@@Prplex.
My parents tried using food as a punishment on my little sister only once. They sent her to bed without dinner, so I got up from the table and took her my plate instead. They only ever tried it once. My parents weren't perfect, I certainly wouldn't call them abusive. But I wasn't going to let that slide and I think that was enough of a reason for them to agree not to try again. I could tell they didn't want to do it anyway.
As another fully grown adult who has an abusive step mom, who also ticked a bunch of these boxes, anyone - and I mean ANYONE - who would keep food from their kids is abusive. Once, multiple times, it doesn't matter; abuse is abuse and calling it otherwise changes nothing.
Yeah my dad did a lot of the things that this mom has done, other than tie me up. Did probably more to my sisters. He got put in jail cause he had some warrants on him. Beat his ass about a year ago cause him and my sister saw each other at where she had a probation meeting when she called me crying cause he approached her in the parking lot and like yelled at her or something. But yeah, horrible guy, but he’s in prison for probably life
CPS frequently doesn't do their job. If they don't see it happening right in front of them, they just assume that it's just "a child wanting attention."
Family CZcamsrs should be the number one priority in child abuse investigations. The children are thought of as tools by the parents, rather than living beings.
yup, and it also sets a really bad example on how life with a family should be for the audience. What if the audience expect that family life will always go that way, but isn't? They will try to control the family to go that way, leading to a miserable family life.
@@dreadtrain2846 not really per say, most are likely seeking opportunity to stand out or an opportunity to make money another way. (which really depends on the circumstance a person is going through in life, so making a hasty generalization using those criteria is not a really a good example to judge people)
As a former social worker... I think it's too easy. This is why 96% of our budget was spent on removing kids and only 4% on supporting families to become better. Worse one I've seen is a boy who came through my home. He was removed because he wasn't getting food. His mum actually called CPS for help because she had such severe depression and anxiety she couldn't get to the shop. Instead of helping her get the shopping, which she had money to do, they removed her kid. As a foster carer I ended up helping her to find a lawyer to get him back but it took 6 months and he had been through the dreaded group homes before getting to me. They damaged that boy so much. As a foster care I can say that foster care is often worse than an abusive home. I take the most difficult kids and I can point to two I've had who haven't been abused by foster carers, their kids or other kids in care. One of my kids had PTSD from the act of being removed.
@@MrZoomah You ever think that so much money is spent on that _because_ it's incredibly hard to achieve? Also, as someone with major clinical depression who can't go off meds, I can say 100% that at my most depressed I was 100% incapable of looking after _myself_ let alone a child. Depression isn't something that just quickly goes away either. If you can't look after a child that is solely reliant on you, you shouldn't have them in your care.
@@jessbellis9510 No matter how much money it costs supporting families, it's cheaper than foster care and much cheaper than the torture placements known as group homes. (Which I have worked in for 3 years). Placing a kid in a group home costs $1800 in Australian dollars... per day. That's right. $650,000 per year. That's on the low end too we some estimates pushing $1mil a year. And in over 90% of cases the kid will come out with a criminal record and addiction due to the other traumatised kids they are placed with. (Note, it's similar in the USA but it varies by state) You could employ a nurse, a psychologist and a chef to spend 8 hours per day with the mum for the same cost as to put a child in a group home. (Not that I think that's what is needed to support a mum) So the cost of a friendly face coming around to drop off some shopping, or to even come around every day to offer some supports is nothing compared to putting a kid in care. People have to remember that most parents love their children. I've seen parents do amazing things...but only with help. Unfortunately, governments worldwide refuse to do this. In my area they reduced kids in foster care by 20% by a nurse visiting at risk mum's once a week for the first 6 months of the babies life. Post natal depression also fell in the area. They cut the funding last year.
@@jessbellis9510It is not like depression says I am coming as long as ypu do not have bipolar disorder or such. You can get it anytime in your life and if you dont have a partner,family that can look after children at the time what are you gonna do? As the person said they abuse the children in foster care that the children fare worse than staying with their parents. It is big problem that needs systemical solutions such as government supporting the family financially and physically. Giving the woman free healthcare for the depression.
I believe it. I live in a rural town in PA. I have a piece of ish cousin that’s on government assistance and continues to pop babies out left and right. She makes her 8 year old boy make food and care for the brothers/sisters she does have (she had 6 kids total, two taken from her custody). My wife’s mother has custody of the other two children of hers (one has autism, the other had his arm broken as a baby by his father). She took up for the guy that broke her son’s arm, and still defends him today. This p.o.s. has since moved on to another guy and popped out some kids to him. One day this guy was shooting a pellet gun in his backyard and left the children unattended. According to the p.o.s. Mother and father, their youngest boy ran in front of the father and the father shot him in the head with the pellet gun. The boy suffered a TBI and is never going to live a normal life without requiring assistance. His brother, the 8 y/o who has to cook and clean for his siblings, witnessed everything and requires extensive therapy. He went from being an ornery, playful boy to being mean and callous. He no longer has a youthful spark in his eyes. Instead, he has cold/dead eyes. The father and mother had the nerve to blame him for not watching his younger brother, and the father is constantly cruel to him as a result. Since then, he has become increasingly violent, and has even pulled knives and other weapons on people. I have no doubt he will turn to drugs and/or be a killer when he grows up. The father was initially arrested, but somehow got a sweetheart deal in court where he was only sentenced with probation and time served. CPS has been called on them numerous times since. They have done absolutely nothing to help those poor children. And she continues to collect from government assistance, popping out baby after baby. I don’t typically support the death penalty or sterilization… but just thinking of her being free while actively ruining her kids’ lives makes me think otherwise.
I had the "if you don't do this, or stop doing that, you dont get dinner" type stuff. I see what that looks like taken to the extreme thanks to this madman. Punish your kids when they misbehave by all means, but just do something like "no consoles for 2 weeks" or grounding them, this is not the right way as is obvious. Complete insanity
Tbeh there's a specific kind of parenting media that deadass convinces me a nontrivial percentage of parents had kids specifically because they wanted to abuse someone who had very little knowledge, independence or legal recourse
My wife used to work for the school system and she would contact cps all the time for real physical and even sexual abuse by parents and they never did anything. It’s such a shame I hope these kids can grow up more to be okay and stay away from those monsters
i never got s'ad by my caregivers but i had by multiple boys in my life and even by a family friend by the age of 7. People dont know what types of abuses can affect a childs pysche. i was flirting w every body in my school and i had a deep seeded hatred for everyone around me
@djtoby5275 then they need to get funds because children are always going to be here and there's always going to be issues regarding abused children. If the government gave a fuck shit like this would be helped immediately. But they dont
Imagine the uphill battle those kids are gonna have regarding maintaining any faith in authority or humanity… “My mom abused us while thousands watched, and nothing was done about it.” Like they’re gonna grow up to be activists or nihilists cause no way can you trust a system that allowed that to happen to you once you’ve wrapped your head around it… Lacerations and duct tape… I can scarcely imagine.
Activism would be a good thing to come from them tbh. They have a horrifying perspective on the eorst of the world, and using that to help others escape similarly terrible shit situations would be invaluable. I just wish em the best.
That is if the kids are able to seek therapy and don’t commit suicide if they have those kinds of ideations. I hope they are able to rise above the situation.
There is absolutely no way none of those kids will grow up without any form of bias/distaste for the government/superiors (I cant remember the word for it rn). One of the worst parts about all this was that the thousands that watched their abuser _tried_ to do something about it but the law/people enforcing the law was inadequate and refused to help them.
@JBravo69 Witnessing a crime on video doesn't count unless possession of the material itself is illegal, like cp. Watching an isis beheading video, for example, isn't illegal, so neither is this. Plus, the content they posted was subjectively immoral but not exactly illegal.
From what I've seen of cases like this (unfortunately there are quite a few) the #1 indicator of an abusive parent is restricting food as a punishment. There is no civilized world where that is a normal thing to do. That is just such disgusting behavior, to treat your kids lower than even cats or dogs (cause what decent pet owner even does something like that?) and to withhold the one thing you are most responsible for providing.
CPS is complicit in this and many other manners. CPS in multiple states have also been busted for trafficking. CPS is not what people hope it is. It hasn't been for a long, long time.
Sadly, the fact that child protective services brushed it off for that long is really not that bizarre, nor is the fact that she had such a huge following. I only know who she is because I follow a ton of accounts that talk about childhood trauma, child abuse, gentle parenting, etc. and this woman was called out for being an abuser YEARS ago only to have people insist that they were "too soft" and their children were going to end up spoiled if they thought this woman was abusive. Child abuse survivors can clock these things from a mile away. Remember that people will always show the best version of themselves in public to protect their image. Starving her daughter was the best version of herself. Also social workers are extremely overworked, underpaid, undertrained people with some of the least consequences for their behaviors. I dont know a single abuse victim who was actually taken seriously by CPS even if they had perfect adult sized hand-shaped bruises on their arms. Social workers abandon hundreds if not thousands of children to die in abusive homes every year because they dont care, dont want to put in the work, and dont have consequences for their behaviors. I once spoke to someone who said their social worker told her "your parents have every right to hit you. If you don't like it, then learn to do what they ask of you." In most cases, the police & CPS don't actually intervene until the child is dying or dead. I'm glad that little boy was able to save himself before it was too late.
This exact reason I am going to school so I can be DCFS when I was younger I was let down by so many I want to make sure I can help everyone in that situation
I was with you until “they don’t care, don’t want to put in the work” That’s generalizing. It is true SOMETIMES, but not all of the time. I’m a social worker myself and I have plenty of colleagues who do their absolute best, but let me tell you the burn out is real. They don’t do enough to support social workers, and the over all structure and policies are not always beneficial to those in need. It’s very sad when you know someone needs a specific type of help but cannot get them that help
@LyaJen my aunt is a social worker and my parents called her to talk to me when they caught me moving out at 18. she literally did not care when i told her my mother gave me tips on how to kill myself in the least inconvenient way. She told me i needed to stop hurting my parents' feelings and stay by their side. Children of abuse are systemically oppressed by the people who are PAID to protect us. I have made DOZENS of comments online about this issue, the majority of which defend good social workers. I shouldn't have to "ACAB doesn't include the 1% of good cops" every single time I talk about the system that doesn't punish adults for knowingly and intentionally leaving children to die. I'm sorry your job fucking sucks. But i should be allowed to talk about how it ENDANGERED MY LIFE without making an aside to fawn over how kind-hearted and hard-working some of you are every time I talk about being left to die as a literal child by every system that was put in place to protect me from harm.
It’s a more complex issue than that. While yes many social workers don’t care (which is horrid), so much of it is burnout/being overworked and not enough pay. There’s a lack of social workers because of how many cases each person is responsible for (upwards of 100+) with no resources for the workers feeling burnt out/compassion fatigue and the pay isn’t worth the toll it takes on the worker. It doesn’t excuse the behavior and overlooking of cases but there are larger systematic issues contributing to the apathy in workers
Many kids unfortunately are experiencing this right now, hope they will go through this and become what they parents aren’t. I’m trying to be what my father wasn’t, unfortunately in his way he thought me what to not be in life.
You deny your own feelings, creating immense feelings of guilt and shame for simply existing let alone feeling. Perception is blurred from reality, and until you get out of it- it continues to eat away your sense of self and any potential happiness…. ❤ poor babies, hope they get therapy
It's funny Charlie described "8 Passengers" as sounding like a horror movie because the very first Alien movie was based on a horror short story called "The 8th Passenger."
As a child who grew up in an extremely abusive household, CPS or the police not doing anything is not surprising to me. Their abuse was quite literally broadcasted on camera and they didn't do anything even with the community begging for something to be done. This just goes to show how CPS does nothing for abused children...
as someone who was a victim of child abuse, cps is worthless half the time. and it doesn’t help the situation if the children are scared of the outcome and won’t fess up and they just take that at face value. we had cops coming to our house EVERY NIGHT and they kept us there. holes in the walls and visible broken furniture and these dipsticks were just like “oh yeah that’s fine just go to ur grandmas for the night and your literal nightmare will be out in the morning” our justice system and our system in place to protect children is so badly flawed.
Some parents view kids as some sort of toy, a plaything to mess with. And that is nothing short of fucking revolting. I'm so sorry that had happened to you, I wish someone had tooken action, and I truly wish you and whatever victim was in that hellhole was provided with safety and love.
The sad truth of the matter is, the state doesn't want abused kids. CPS goes after normal families instead because they want healthy young kids to sell to the highest bidder. The state doesn't want to have to care for mentally/physically unhealthy children until they're 18, they want kids they can quickly adopt out and make a quick buck from.
In many places CPS is afraid to do anything because well - look at the comments on videos of CPS removing children in a lot of cases and watch how many people say CPS is evil, CPS is child traffickers, this and that. Add to the fact that the social workers within CPS are woefully overworked, underpaid, barely able to make student loan payments (often they have to have a Master's degree for this absolutely thankless job) and have none of the resources they need to do their job the way it needs to be done. We can't blame CPS for this - society is the one who made CPS as non-functional as it is. We need to blame legislators for not funding them properly and as a society judge them fairly for doing the job instead of berating them no matter what they do.
@@kenirainseeker539 See? My exact point. Apparently the social workers getting paid pennies are now in on this grand conspiracy to steal healthy children from "normal" families? Like...conspiracies have destroyed so many functions of government in this country because people think that when they function poorly it's out of malice.
I hope she doesn’t get bed or food privileges in her prison cell, because if she did she wouldn’t learn her lesson
you're joking but this is literally what solitary confinement is, a prisoner acts up and they get chucked in a pit and forgotten about for a few hours to a few days
I also hope in that cell, she cant keep secrets or have any privacy.
We shouldn't stoop to her level, but she needs to spend years there until she learns and the children need to be taken away and given real parents.
@@raptorcrasherinc.9823 the comment is clearly trying to mock her for what she said about her children during one of her "lessons"
Funny enough a lot of female prisoners will target child abusers (similar to male prisons with pedophiles) so she is going experience some trouble while in there
I am so, so, so tired of CPS failing children.
Well, you'll be extra tired once I tell you that they also sell children :( our foster system feeds child predators and no one stops it.
@@ciscornBIG its like that by design, working as intended.
It doesnt really fail children, it has red tape and cannot do anything without enough evidence. I used to get spanked by my parents when I did something wrong, and at the time as a dumb kid I hated them for it. But looking back on it I turned into a well adjusted adult and rarely make big mistakes that I see most zoomers making. If I had the chance I probably wouldve cried to CPS and had they taken me away from my family I always would have regretted it. So it's a good thing CPS does not have the power to simply break up families because the kid asked them to. And it's incredibly ignorant to blame them for this situation.
@ciscornBIG My mother was a foster kid, she was lucky, my nana was an amazing woman and foster mom. Sounds like shes one of the few. There are... Horrible, horrible stories from so many foster kids, and CPS fails them time and time again. It's genuinely so horrific, and it's not changing. Its not quite a foster situation but a kid my younger brother knows took refuge at my parents place a while, but kept getting sent back to her very abusive(documented, she's got multiple assaults on file) grandma because CPS would rather "keep her in the family." And "not cause unnecessary trauma", cause y'know beaten little girls running half naked to a neighbors home at 2AM is clearly just a "misunderstanding" and "different generation" problem
Well, CPS has a long history of child trafficking so. I'd prefer it be dismantled and something else take it's place that actually helps children
Update: the judge has denied her bail, which means she will have to remain in jail until her trial, which could possibly take a year or more
today its a good day
February 20th of this year is when she gets sentenced!!
@@Hello-ll7htLes fuckin gooooooo!
@@Hello-ll7htyooo its the day
@@jt.008 AHHHH IT IS
The "how did cps not listen to the actual victim" line was just... They don't, ever, listen to the actual victims unless someone dies. I reported my own stepfather to cps, and I was terrified that they'd mishandle the case like they had with so many others (I'd seen what happened to one of my friends when cps told her abuser to his face who reported him, and I still called them, I was that desperate), but they didn't, because they never even picked it up. I never reached out for help again, and I still have issues trusting reporting agencies.
And people wonder why nobody trusts the government that is "supposed to be there for them."
I have no personal experience, but when he said that, I was like, “look up Gabriel Fernandez”
That’s really rough
I hope you’re doing better these days
child protection services? more like child endangerment services, they sell their kids so potential p3d0s, they have had a history of child trafficking. how is this allowed
my sister did that when she was like... 15 for attention (my family is absolutely amazing except my previous step dad he sucks) and they rolled up and nearly took us from our parents in a case with zero evidence... they go too hard in cases with zero evidence and too soft in cases with all the evidence
The fact that people had been reporting this for years, and the police didn’t get involved until they were forced to because a child escaped is unfathomable to me.
It's all about money and the government. Not saying that CPS is greedy, just underfunded. A lot of the times they don't have enough staff or money to care for the child in need. And the government doesn't care unless there they are forced too. Same reason orphanages and foster homes suck: government doesn't care about kids.
@@ClownHoundII CPS doesn't give a shit about children. There's a ton of cases where they prefer to keep the child in a meth house than with a father or other relatives that are normal and willing to take in the child just because: "Children need their mother" excuse.
@horrorhoundII in my experience, CPS is also disproportionately more inclined to sweep things under the rug from white cis christian households
@@ClownHoundII yup. outlawing abortion is a tool to control birth rates, not save babies/children. govt doesnt care about kids.
That’s pretty normal. Police doing their jobs and investigating people when there are concerns raised is like pulling teeth.
The fact that she was abusive is one thing, the fact that she was successful for openly admitting it is another entirely.
shows you how many such parents are out there
W to Ruby and Jody. L to the kids.
If we were back in the old days of CZcams when users didn't get paid, I guarantee you that at least 9 out of 10 CZcamsrs wouldn't act the way they do for the cameras. The ones who aren't spreading wisdom are doing wacky things for clicks.
probably had a primarily religious fanbase which is fine with beating their children, u want proof go look up how to train up your child from the pearl family, its a whole book on how to physically and mentally abuse their kids.
White woman
Not the dad acting like the kids are torn up that their self proclaimed demon of a mom is arrested lol. “Trying to keep the family together after her arrest” sounds more like “I care about my psychotic wife more than my kids.”
Have you any idea how taxing it is being a single parent? It's good that she got arrested and is facing justice, but to act like this isn't putting a huge burden on the man for him to have to balance caring for his kids, maintaining the household, and keeping his career so as to be able to financially provide for the family is just incongruous with his reality.
@@godofmath1039he also perpetrated the abuse, he is not a single father, he’s a single monster and I hope those kids get an *actual* escape because he isn’t it
@@godofmath1039 You please, 2 of them are already adults and 3 of the kids are able to work part-time while going to school to help out pay some things.
I come from an abusive household. I normally can handle things discussing abuse but this made me ugly cry. Charlie saying “it’s not tough love its FUCKING ABUSE” had me crying not in a good way. I shouldn’t have been abused like I was. I shouldn’t have had to waste so many years trying to drink the pain away. I shouldn’t have had to do years of medication so I didn’t try to kill myself every waking moment. I shouldnt flinch everyone someone raises their hand at me.
People don’t realize it but a lot of parents and people deem actual abuse as good parenting. CPS is also to blame. Gabriel Hernandez died from the abuse he received from his parents before CPS even stepped in and said okay that’s enough. It’s tragic.
im so sorry you had to go all through that. i am very proud of you for staying strong man. My parents love me to death but my heart aches to the kids who dont get love from someone they expect the most of it. My heart goes out to all the people who suffer this type of situation. I just pray to god that they get out of it soon and strong. Again, im proud of you man and i hope that you live your life with much more happiness and peace now. Jai shree ram :)
@@stutiarya7623 thank you!! I’m much happier now since I’ve left my parents. I hate seeing or knowing that other kids are gettting abused because I know what it’s like firsthand. It’s kind of given me a superpower though that I can easily tell if someone is a good or shitty person. Sucks tho when I know they’re a shitty person and they have kids cause it’s likely they’ll grow up to be suicidal:/
Ik when he said “how did cps not believe the legitimate victim “ flashed me back to the dozens of cops and cps workers therapist etc video audibly and physically having proof of abuse and being told I was hitting Jayden or orchestrating it even as an adult my peers seem to not believe or understand how bad it rly wat
I'm a survivor of filicide and extremely severe life threateneing child abuse in a domestically abuisve home, I also saw the documentary of Gabrield Fernandez, and wholeheartedly 100% agree and relate to your comment above. I am now permantelty disabled in multiple ways more than just 3 ways and now need living aid assitnence because of my familys toxic abuse. it has virutally destroyed my life. albiet THANK FUCK I did not grow up in a Family YT channel so at least all those fucking moments of torture were never caught on camera for the world to see, but I feel very strongly that those children should have been taken out of their home STAT as soon as there was evidence enough to take them out. and I really *REALLY* hope Ruby Franke never gets out of prison and I also hope they forget to feed her too.
I feel ya. When we hear others validate our feelings of unfairness, it's frightening because we expect to not only not be believed, but to get chastised for speaking up. So, yeah. The ugly crying comes, but please, PLEASE let it. KNOW that we're here. That people understand, care AND want you to heal. I'm so proud of you for sharing a little bit with us! I know it's not easy! ❤❤❤
She's smirking when she talks about her child starving. She is genuinely getting a kick out of it.
she has 2.5 million subscribers most who are supporting her, of course she feels like what shes doing is okay. what people should take from this situation is that the general population cant be trusted to understand reality
@@venuae but it's not about feeling if it's okay, it's about enjoying it in a sadistic way.
most of the abuse these children experienced was not documented, not filmed. the bruises from being tied up, the bruises from being beaten, the malnourishment. so it goes beyond just what her viewers thinks is okay.
we need to understand that there's people in this world who thrives on the sense of power that hurting others cause. there's genuinely sadistic people who gets enjoyment out of causing suffering on other people, even their own children.
this woman has a personality disorder.
@@Nabiumyep. Not only did she want to abuse them but she wanted the public to validate her horrible actions and gaslight the kids with it.
I think it's more of her having feelings of accomplishment, still crazy
And the kid was 6 years old. That's it. She was 6 when Ruby refused to bring the kid food. A six year old child was "responsible" of packing her own lunch.
"food privileges" "bedroom privileges"
the fact that such bare necessities were seen as privileges in the household is absolutely terrifying
This is what narcissists do, they make bare necessities in the home any sort of privilege. I had this happen when i was a kid too and it took a long time to know that it was abuse
@@CadetRedShirtyour not alone man
@@CadetRedShirt I hope you're in a much better place now
my first thought exactly
@@CadetRedShirtI didn’t realize that my parents were abusive until I joined the military, sometimes being distant gives the necessary view change to see through the lies that cover up abuse
I was a victim of child abuse. I tried to get cps involved, my friends and their families tried to get cps involved, my school tried to get cps involved and there was no rescuer, I had to endure s*ual, violent and verbal assult for 19 years of my life because I couldn't show a written statement of them admitting to anything regardless of my scars, bruises or mental health so long as they kept denying and the ''family'' kept singing their praises and protecting them - either knowing or acting oblivious to what they were doing - NOTHING gets done. I may not be from the US but its safe to say cps is a flawed and broken system accross the globee and I have to live with a lifetime of mental scars for it.
I hope these kids can find some sembelance of a happy life going forward, they'll never have normalicy but at least they can hopefully find security and heal.
Sorry you went through that, I hope you found a way better family and help.
jesus fucking christ. i hope youre doing good bro after that
I hope you also managed to find a happy life
Damn, that’s probably the only long ah comment I’m ever gonna read and actually care about
@@Godziller_Dudeif you think thats long, then im worried for you
As someone from an abusive household (in different ways from this), it infuriates me that the general public supports these kinds of parents because “tough love!! This is REAL parenting!!” Or “back in my day…” like no, Karen, hitting your kids and berating them , beating them, staving them and locking them up is not just “good old fashioned parenting”, it’s awful, it’s abusive, and it’s why I’m studying to be a child psychologist right now
**this is a critique of morons who abuse their children** You don't beat your children, starve them, and revoke theirhuman rights? What kind of parent are you? How are they going to get disciplined?
What is extra sickening is when you think of the fact that even if they are convicted they will be sent to prison... Where they will get a bed, not a bean bag, and get 3 meals a day. They will be receiving a lighter criminal punishment for child abuse in a literal jail than the punishment their child faced for pranking a sibling.
Yeah, but bean bags are more comfortable than those prison beds. And the food isn't good either.
I get what you're trying to say ... but it's inaccurate in reality.
@@ladyyananumber1200the fact is that they are living better than some homless people
I've also heard that prisoners have a tendency to beat the shit out of pedophiles and child abusers. So... fingers crossed
Just wait till their prison buddies find out they are child abusers
@@Nov_Net everyone lives better than homeless people. That's a pretty low bar.
Her daughter, Eve, was 6 at the time of the lunch thing. Imagine even expecting a six year old to make and pack their own lunch every morning. That alone is a red flag.
i did
@MelissaK-nl2cx Difference is, the way that kid was being "disciplined" didn't help her
Thanks for the context, if the kid was in middle/highschool I'd 100% agree that their lunch could be their own responsibility, she could probably have done it herself if her mother actually bothered to teach her and remind her until it became routine but I'm guessing she just said "make your own food" and walked away.
@@MelissaK-nl2cxsame, mine was out of necessity though not spiteful like that witch
@@MelissaK-nl2cxand everyone clapped
I am from Utah, where this family is based, and I grew up in a broken household with an abusive mother that refused to get proper treatment for her bipolar disorder, PTSD and severe depression. CPS services were involved in my life for a majority of my childhood, and I can confidently say that CPS and DCFS are completely useless more than 90% of the time in Utah. The abuse has to be blatant, the conditions for the children have to be deplorable for them to even act, and even then they are lacking. We told them that we didn’t feel safe, that my mother would stay in bed for days or weeks at a time and leave me and my 5 year old sister to fend for ourselves, expecting a 7 year old boy to prepare dinner and take care of everything. When CPS would be involved, we told them we had no food and she wouldn’t feed us. Yet CPS fell for every lie and trick that my mother could come up with. They are incredibly unsympathetic to the child and will almost always believe the parent/legal guardian. All my mother has to do was maintain appearances when CPS would get involved and they would fall for it. Every. Single. Time.
I feel the main reason nobody did anything for so long is because MANY MANY adults with kids who hate them have a 1950’s mindset where they UNIRONICALLY think emotional availability, food, and care will raise “a soft generation.” Realistically, Kevin probably took some sort of plea deal with heavy restrictions surrounding his children and the internet, since people would really prefer that kids don’t have both of their parents arrested. Since it was implied that the mom was the executor of most of the abuse, she’s probably the one people want arrested the most. The dad is just as wrong for letting it happen, but it gets really nuanced and complicated from here.
Throw her in prison and throw away the key. Abusing children is one of the worst crimes you can commit.
@@CrewmateComplexClanno your not 💀
The father too how the hell he didn't do anything
@@USSAnimeNCC- and the sisters since they confirmed they knew and stayed quiet, might as well be complicit
@@USSAnimeNCC- I also agree with Charlie, the sister needs to be looked at aswell
No fireing squad
I hope she loses her “food privilege” more than a couple times in prison
I wouldn't feel bad if they accidentally sent her to a men's prison I know they would treat her very very well down there lol
@@A-TALKING-TOASTERgod damn ☠️
menace
@@A-TALKING-TOASTERI’m pretty sure that could happen in the women’s prison too
Being sent to bed without dinner isn’t abuse. I think a lot of people commenting were either coddled or are female.
As someone who suffered through parental abuse, i will say. I went to authorities three times, with evidence even of the abuse that myself and two younger sisters, (one being in a wheelchair due to genetic disabilities) suffered through and was ignored as a "rebellious teen". All of this happened in the state of Utah, to me and my sisters as well.
I lived in a household with an emotionally and mentally abusive step parent, who made it clear that she loathed my very existence (as did most of her family). Living in that house was fucking hell and I was basically the glorified maid and babysitter, who couldn’t do a damn thing right and would get screamed at for it, and everything had to be done perfectly. Then she would take all the credit for the things I would do, while telling everyone what an ungrateful, lazy, antisocial asshole I was, when I just wanted to make myself as small as possible and get away from all the bullshit. But trying to avoid the source of the problem apparent makes one a “hermit” and warrants more instigation. There were also a few nights I had “food privileges” revoked, because I pissed her off. (I was the scapegoat in a narcissistic family unit and my half sister was the golden child… for those who know, you know…)
CPS got called a few times… but it was on my half siblings. Someone called in saying they were getting beat because they had bruises, when the reality was they would just beat the shit out of each other or jump off of the couch/out of trees and shit (because no one was watching them most of the time- something I’d get screeched at for, when my step mom slept all day) and CPS didn’t even acknowledge my existence, any of the times they were called out. In therapy sessions, she would sit in with me and pretend to be my best friend. Like, of course I’m not going to say, “this bitch has been doing some abusive shit”, while she’s in the room, but I didn’t even really register what was going on, either, back then, and that it was wrong, because it had become so normalized for me. It took me being out of the situation for about 10 years to realize something had been wrong. And when I came forward to family members about it, the biggest slap in the goddamn face was, exactly like in this case, them knowing (or suspecting) something was going on and doing nothing about it… And I get that there’s nothing to be done, now, but most just treat it like, “whoopsie poopsie. Our bad! Be like jesus and just forgive and forget, eh?” That shit just makes me even more spiteful, like wow… you suspected some shit was amiss and now you’re pulling the, “sorry fam. We good?”, card…
A wise man once said: “Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.”
basically every kids need good parents but some parents are evil and should never had kids shows how life isn't black and white
Truth...
Overused! But true!
@@Nyj_ff2Absolutely not underrated.. W quote nonetheless
And I'm the literal embodiment of it!!
RF is a hero. He was so brave to escape and tell his neighbors. He saved his siblings and got that monster arrested
Fr! I’m so happy that he dosent have to live like that anymore and hopefully has a good life.
I’m so proud of him, if it weren’t for his bravery, they might’ve never made it out of that heinous situation
Being from Utah and knowing how poorly they handle abuse cases, similar to the Gabby Petito case, I'm saddened to say that I'm not surprised they let this situation fall through the cracks.
she did this openly and laughed about it. if this doesn’t tell you that cps is corrupt and ineffective idk what does. cps came to my house a total of 7 times growing up and did absolutely nothing. the abuse i suffered lasted for my entire childhood. i had a case record longer than the fucking bible and cps didn’t gaf. i hope she gets what she deserves
The idea that this channel had 2.5 million subscribers who were most likely trying to use it to justify their own abusive parenting is nauseating
i know it was definitely mostl;y kids also who just didnt know what was wrong. ive seen alot of kids saying they grew up with 8 passengers
Or using it to get their rocks off, which I can't tell which of the two would be worse...
@@GrigeralI think the pedos would be worse
@@Grigeralnah pedos would be waaay worse
@@bird2797 yes if actually doing it themselves. But if you're comparing specifically looking at something like these videos, compared to actively abusing them I'd say it's a little more blurry.
Although, everyone sucks here regardless...
There’s so much more to her evil than this. She would film her kids in the bath, film them crying and just film so many personal moments and embarrassing the children. It’s so beyond disgusting.
Saw a clip of her filming her and one of her daughters' first times getting a bra... it was so awful and horrific knowing the exact kind of audience that goes to; now her classmates might know also. I feel like a creep making a comment about it, but it should be said that some of her videos about "puberty" and overall emberessing her kids are probably heavily used by pedos. Really infuriating.
@@seashellgarden2227 thats so fucking gross, makes me even madder that this as ignored by authorities
thats literal fcking cp....
she basically said several times she hated her kids (in a matter of words).
Its a small world after all!
The reason nobody in Ruby’s life questioned her “parenting” (besides maybe a select few) like we on the internet did is bc she surrounded herself with people who were doing the same damn thing as her and agreed with her “parenting style”
Exactly. She cherrypicked to make her own majority group to create the idea that it was "normal"
Glad you said it first
Unfortunately charlie, as someone who comes from an abusive home. My whole family knew my father was hitting me. But there wasnt any proof that he was. Honestly reaching out to authorities HAS A CHANCE of being worse for the victims than reaching out and getting help. Its a sad messed up world we live in
Russell deserves an award for his bravery, i cannot believe how scared he must’ve been climbing out of that window. he saved 3 of his siblings. i feel for all of them and cannot believe the authorities and extended family let it get to this point. also, the day Ruby got arrested was Eve’s 10th birthday, i hope she gets all the healing she deserves and every birthday after is out of her wildest dreams.
Isn’t that full circle bc wasn’t eve born on CZcams?
@@y0urm_nl0v3sm3woah. Literally though.
The saddest part is that he did to only get food, not to seek help. That's just shows that those kids are so used to the abuse that they think it's normal.
Jody should rot in jail for the rest of her life along with her colleagues.
@@y0urm_nl0v3sm3yes. Their first video was Eve's gender reveal. This kid is on CZcams since the womb
theres so many family youtubers like this out there its actually sick
daddyofive was one
Daddyothree
@@user-rc7bc9um4eI thought that's what this was about at first
narcissists having kids for their own benefit
When content creation takes priority over your actual family, you've already crossed into malicious territory.
As someone that went through almost the same thing. CPS showed up multiple times but I was too afraid to tell them the truth, I didn't know they could help me, so I talked to them as if they were the teachers and other strangers asking me what was going on.
The fact that all of this happened for as long as it did and she's still only been arrested on SUSPICION of child abuse makes me sick. No wonder CPS never paid any attention to my little verbal/emotional abuse case, it's ridiculous how much of this shit she decided was OKAY to show on the internet and she still is almost getting away with this! Imagine what insane shit she does OFF CAMERA!
As a former foster kid, I can confirm that CPS is incredibly bad at their job. They prefer to blame the child in the majority of the cases to avoid having to do paperwork. Actually trying to get help just causes more harm, so it's very easy to just accept the new normal. I'm glad they were finally able to escape. Still a very long road to recovery though. Trauma can be rough.
Former foster child here too! I still feel bad to this day that I was one of the lucky ones tho, while other foster siblings weren't so fortunate, even just the ones who missed their parents. The fact that I ultimately feel grateful for the foster system saving my life, cuz I most certainly would have died if I was left with my dad as a baby, I feel I don't reserve the right to say I've still also struggled, just not at the hands of the system, but by family. Was abused by my Aunt until doctor's found drugs in her urine. Yet again it was thanks to the rules of the foster system that I was able to get out of that household that very night. Wrote a whole essay on that experience.
As someone whose family was investigated by CPS several times, they also seem far more worried about families that really don't need their intervention (I lived a happy life. It wasn't always great, but certainly never bad enough for CPS.)
I moved from one foster home where I was literally thrown across the room when my carer was angry at me and as a 7 year old I just assumed it was normal so when I casually brought it up to my social worker and she told me it was because of something I did I just kept quiet about it
Not a foster kid, but my Dad and I called CPS on his ex multiple times due to her abuse to her elementary school child (she was an alcoholic who often DUI'd with her kid in the car and was generally very unstable, while also refusing to accept help for her addiction). It took months until anything was actually done (because the SCHOOL her kid went to had to get involved..she showed up like 5 hours after hours to pick up her kid drunk as hell), and even then this woman is still allowed to see her kid in the summer? feel like if you got CPS on your ass several times that should keep you from seeing your child ever again but!
"mothers rights" I guess :/
CPS tried to ruin my family. Treated me and my sister like items.
This lady came and spoke at my church to all the moms and she apparently said a lot of crazy stuff and after all of the moms questioned her advice she stormed out of the church. So glad her kids are ok now
Good for all the intelligent, compassionate moms in your church.
Glad they all instantly called her out and saw her actions as horrible.
Probably her being Mormon and your church is normie and don't vibe with her bs
Oh god, i know they probably worried about those kids for a long time.
@@NachoC9chill
Speaking from experience as an abuse victim that faced similar "punishments" as the victims here, Ive been crying for help since the age of 9 and no one ever took me seriously. My little sister and I were actively scavenging for food and sneaking them into the house in order to survive and when I told our mom about it she assumed i was exaggerating because I was a kid. When i told my classmates about it they assumed i was lying because they met my father and he "didnt look abusive". I told my cousin, she didn’t believe me. I told my aunt, grandma, and grandpa how much i disliked my father because of his punishments and they told me he is my flesh and blood and i have to love him no matter what. Crazy thing is 14 years later after my mom finally realized that he was a piece of shit and divorced him, they still never took the abuse allegations seriously until THIS YEAR. So this story truly breaks my heart, but I am so glad they were able to escape this situation. I wish them nothing but love
It’s insane for someone to choose to have 6 children and then be so abusive to them. What a monster! Any adult responsible for allowing this to continue to happen should be arrested too!
As someone who was raised like this, someone needs to tell her straight up: her kids don’t love her, and she isn’t getting a funeral. She’s getting thrown in the river, if they even think to give her that luxury.
i don't think she cares
@@windy8544 honestly, though she seems so narcissistic and delusional to the point where she actually probably believes that they love her
And even if she won’t believe them because she’s so “great” it’s still something she deserves to hear
Sorry ma, we're revoking your funeral privileges
@@windy8544she'll care when she's getting her ass beat in prison.
@@Pastellera2video Will have the standard comebacks "I did it because I love you" and "One day you'll realise how good a mother I was to you."
People who openly brag about their sociopathic behaviour online are the scariest
💯💯💯💯
Twitter users
The internet has really fucked up a lot of people in regards of what is and isn't okay to share
I'd say the scariest are the ones who go unknown to the world or even to the people close to them. At least with these people publicly displaying their atrocious behaviours, intervention can take place much sooner & the kids can be rehomed in safer environments.
I'm glad they do so they can get busted and whatever they posted can be used in court
If You're Gonna Gloat about "Punishing" Your Child, You've Absolutely Failed as a Parent.
Justice isn’t served and it’s sad. As much time and penalties as these monsters get I can’t help but feel like these kids have flat out been robbed of a childhood they can never get back
Such an infuriating story.
I want to mention one extra bit of the abuse that a lot of people don’t know about…the mom’s recordings. The mom recorded EVERY waking second of their lives. The kids didn’t have a single shred of privacy because the mom refused to give them any. There were multiple times when the kids basically begged for their mom to put the camera down and she just never did. Because of this, none of the kids were ever able to make any friends. Everyone kept their distance because of their mom
J Aubrey made a whole video about this years ago, I recommend checking it out
She filmed every second of every day for years on end of her abusing them and posted it on the net for millions to see yet she was able to get away with it for THIS FUCKING LONG. What is wrong with this world!!!
@tornadodee148 Only clout matters nowadays, no one can go five seconds without internet attention lest they go insane.
Reminds me of Daddy o Five. The clips of the younger kid crying his eyes out begging them to stop filming him will be burned in my brain forever. So glad that got stopped quickly after Phillip DeFranco called it out.
How sad. Our society is sick with social media. People loose their moral compass and common decency all for likes and follows. We truly live in a black mirror episode. How scary. Poor kids
@@TezzyRsThankfully most people out there don’t do things like this, so there’s that.. but attention seekers and fame hungry people like this woman are scary
The worst part is that she was promoting her abusive actions as 'parenting tips', so there is a possibility that some of her 2.5 million viewers used her actions as an example on how to parent their kids
THAT should be an additional charge. MASS CHILD ABUSE. Because you just KNOW FULL WELL some of her watchers knew nothing about parenting and this was the first thing they saw on CZcams.
Honestly CZcams ITSELF should face repercussions for allowing this shit in the first place!
@@jeremydale4548Should come under some sort of terrorism charge or something.
The fact that they're religious too just expands their influence even further, (I think they're Mormon?) Combined with the weird additional "therapist" self-help guru lady, and I wouldn't be shocked if hundreds were already copying this behavior because of them.
Karl Marx once argued that we should abolish the family. He was wrong, but not entirely wrong. Some families should be abolished. This family and Daddy of FIve are great examples.
@@ninjacats1647 communism is an ideology with good views that can help its people, but is exploited and the people suffer. Like how these parents exploited their children.
As someone that grew up in a home with devout Mormon parents, I went through these same kinds of punishments and it’s weird to see that this wasn’t “normal” discipline for even the smallest screw ups. Including losing room privileges and made to sleep outside in the yard, meals and bathroom privileges with held to even physical and emotional abuse. Our bishop even wrote a letter to CPS and informed my parents he was sending it and nothing happened. I honestly just thought this was common for every child growing up. As an adult with my own family I would never and have ever inflicted any of this behavior but the more people I ask if their parents treated them the same way I’m shocked when they respond in horror.
I'm so sorry. Those shouldn't be privileges.
Oh Charlie my sweet summer child. I know it’s surprising to hear but there are soooooo many families (mine included) that abuse their children for years and never face consequences for it. I’m super glad it’s not the case here, but there are innumerable cases just like this one that never see justice done. It’s a sad, shitty world we live in for sure.
With how deplorable some of these family channels are, it’s shocking that it took this long for an arrest to happen.
bro did not finish the video
@@bluntdocto2571 I don’t need to, I already read the numerous articles before this video dropped.
It’s Utah. I’m not surprised.
Love watching people find out how useless CPS is.
CPS is useless that's why. Everyone jokes about them being extremely incompetent for helping real victims and forcefully separating happy families. Their motives are backwards and slow to act and it's always too damn late
The scariest thing is that out there, right freaking now, there are hundreds if not possibly thousands of parents applying her lessons of discipline to their kids...
Less childhood obesity ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
By the looks of the subscriber count to video views, I would venture to say at least 20% of her audience watched regularly and I imagine would apply it in some form. That would indicate that around 250-500 thousand families were subjected to this in some form or another :[
Yikes…
The worst I've seen is when my cousins came to sleep at our house alone, my aunt weren't there (don't remember the reason).
One of them was quite picky and didn't want to eat vegetables, he was 14-16 yrs old at the time.
My dad sat with him for 2 hours, playing the local bingo and whatever, while he was crying that he was hungry and my father just kept repeating that there would be no 2nd serving or snacks tonight if he didn't eat the vegetables on his plate.
That's tough parenting, not whatever that CZcamsr was doing.
Nit your kids not your problem.
To be fair, people are scared of the foster system, and the abuse kids can continue to go through. I kept quiet about my own abuse for years, because I was scared about what might happen to my brother. As far as I could tell, he was not being abused. If anything, he was part of my abuse, because of imitating my parents. I also didn't want to potentially make things harder on myself than they already were....
I’m glad I’m finding out about this on your channel. I will say as an abuse victim for my entire childhood this cuts deep into my psyche. I can also understand the we kept quiet to keep the children safe. Cos I know this might be hard for some people to understand, but when you’re already being punished daily and there’s no light at the end to focus on. You just pray that each day is one without more abuse than the day before. When your abuser gets wind of CPS or anything that pains them in a bad light or shining a light on their abusive ways most times is worse than your regular abuse. They feel threatened and lash out at the victims even more. I just hope the kids are happy. But from experience it’s going to damage them in ways you can’t imagine.
The family is Mormon, and their image is everything. It’s totally possible the sisters were keeping quite not only out of some obligation to protect Jody from prison, but to not taint their own extremely pristine public image. They all have family channels. All 3 of the sisters. Honestly, CPS should probably be in their houses too, considering this is the type of “parenting style” they seem to not be completely separating themselves from.
Money -- like corporations protecting their "Brand" at all costs.
Oh yeah lots for Mormons are super cool loving and kind to children but I have seen negatives of some and its all about the ego and image to some of them. I've witnessed verbal abuse from one inside my home towards my step kids and this dudes real kids and after it I got extremely angry told him to get out of my house he refused and almost got shot for refusing to get out. Then I'm the bad guy and have to leave the state for defending his own kids from his abuse funny how those types project what they are on to others
Yeah with Mormons it's usually the mom that gets bullied by the other ladies on how to be a better parent or some shit. Molly Mormons are the worst.
@I_Got_Hit_With_A_Brick I'm a member, too. It baffles my mind to think there is this kind of evil out there. Hope the kids are okay.
@@I_Got_Hit_With_A_Brick Hi, I have a question. :]
What's the thing about self-image to Mormons? Do ya'll have the whole "worry-more-about-what-God-thinks-than-what-others-think" teaching as well? How does it work out?
When I became a father, I started to notice the number of other parents that took it as a point of pride to brag about how harsh they punished their kids… Never understood it myself
Maybe you will some day.
Good, that means you’re not a terrible human being
@@sizzlebuzz why do parents take pride in harshly punishing their kids???
So many parents think that simply having a child by itself means that they must be respected, instead of respecting the work it takes to actually be a GOOD parent
Chose love. Always
the fact that one of the children had to escape the house to be saved while all of this information was PUBLICLY available is sickening. meanwhile good parents who are financially struggling lose their children all the time
In my experience, alerting authorities comes with the risk of spooking mom and causing worse things for the children. Sometimes it is better to just be a supportive family member who can show them love.
Not saying they should have stayed silent, but sometimes you have to choose the right moment to bring in authorities and that can be really difficult.
The fact that there are parents out there that don’t love their own children is heartbreaking enough, but abusing them? Let them rot in prison.
This is unfortunately way, way, WAY more common then most people think, and CPS doesn't bat an eye because it's not profitable.
Not to mention she couldn't help but make 6 kids. She needs to be sterilized.
In one of her videos, Ruby stated something like, “I love Principals more than my children.”
ruby only had kids to spread the word of God, not to love them
Prison? na hell, people who torture/abuse deserve the absolute worst
This woman does not love her children. She needs to stay locked up at LEAST until the children are grown and can stay away from her by their own means.
You should just end it at stay locked up
locked up for life and starved
Nah death penalty for anyone who abuses children
@@NewscasterNews4dead is to easy
Most women**
"Child support" is for the narcissist/woman.
I'm glad that this type of abuse is finally being cracked down on. I remember being 14 in school using my computer time to Google "is it child abuse to not give a kid breakfast or lunch money". I ate once a day for years, my dinners were portioned for me and I was not allowed to have seconds because I was not allowed to gain weight. I was just barely over 100lbs all through high school. I was not allowed snacks. And when I tried to become vegetarian I was starved for days until I agreed to eat meat. I was also forced to do intense workouts daily and was not allowed to stop running to take a break. Thank you for agreeing that this parenting style is disgusting and abusive, it was my normal life for a long time.
as someone who comes from an abusive home, I can tell you what happens when CPS gets called
They take the children to a separate room and interview them as to what they experienced and then they talk the child down saying "that's not so bad" and then they warn the parents not to be too obvious or they will have to get involved next time.
they do not want the paper work or headache of actually doing their jobs. they do not believe anything short of actual broken bones is real abuse and they think a slap on the wrist will set all parents straight. they do not realize that for a parent to have gotten this bad even once means they have mentally checked out of being parents and now see their children as leaches. They do not feel remorse and they do not stop when warned.
As someone who had the displeasure of working with CPS on multiple occasions, they are the most useless organization I've ever dealt with.
They either ignore our calls about kids being abused by their parents or call the police on us for harassment.
The one time we did manage to get out there and meet the kid and parents, they decided that since the kid was diagnosed with ASD, staying with the family was better for his development.
The same family that refuses to feed and makes the kid sleeps outside.
I'm curious what industry you work in if you have to contact CPS but also are considered "harassing" them for calling, but I also don't want to make you say what it is if you aren't comfortable doing so. Bare minimum, it's a bit nuts that legitimate calls alerting to abuse can ever be considered "harassment" of an organization whose whole purpose is dealing with such calls.
Tried to report an abuse case online and all they did was directing me from one place to another. No seem to want to take care of that case.
Also made similar experiences with animal rescues/protection. They are useless when it comes to protect and rescuing animals, but super engaged when it comes to asking and collecting donation money.
They're too busy going after parents not affirming a kid that says they're the opposite gender.
The police are just as useless as CPS. Labelled criminals in Saint Louis seem to be more capable heroes than any fucking government agent.
@@certifiedjamie Critical thinking and a reading is tough, huh?
This isn’t just child abuse, intentionally starving your children is attempted murder imo
Edit: Did y’all really take this that seriously? To be specific, she should definitely get charged with felony reckless endangerment and criminal negligence and torture as well as the child abuse to be specific. Those should be her actual charges. Also the open wounds on the kid’s arms indicate she assaulted them with a deadly weapon which is another charge.
It's bad enough without the hyperbole...
@@skachorfr people always on some medieval peasant shit
@skachor yeah not feeding someone and attempted murder seem "slightly" different 😅
@@skachorwhat hyperbole?
Jesus christ 100 people have no idea what attempted murder is when it comes to the court 🤦
I work with adolescents in behavioral health and it's terrifying what some "parents" resort to in order to feel like they're maintaining control. It's sick.
CPS should be investigated as well if we are being honest
What makes me even more mad is that Jodi is a therapist and is legally required to report abuse-- the fact that she knew that this was happening, did nothing and participated in the abuse makes my blood boil. She also once shared details about a therapy patient to the Mormon Church without their permission, her therapy license was put on probation for 18 months then uses her medical knowledge to brainwash patients with ideologies and methods that would surely end in license revocation. Ruby is a horrible person, and Jodi makes me sick abusing her medical license, as a healthcare worker, I hope they get the book thrown at them, and Jodi losing her therapy license.
From what I have heard over the last year or so on other channels, while Ruby has always been a nasty piece of work, by all accounts Jodi actually made her worse.
It happened in Jodi's house. I think she was very hands on with the abuse of these children.
How did I know they would end up being Mormons.....
Hi I'm Charlie, and I think I'm being edgy cool scene by wearing no script glasses randomly because I'm a over the top zaney guy. They also match my stupid arm tattoos 🤡
Jodi had her license suspended once already in 2012 for 18 months for reporting private patient information to his church leaders which led to him being excommunicated and thrown out of college. Direct quote from the guy who's privacy she violated, “She just lied wherever she went to [further] an agenda to destroy my life,” said the man, who objected to bills that were as high as $2,000 a month. “We came there for marriage counseling, and she pulled us into her porn marathon.” She's always been a shit therapist.
As an abuse vic, CPS is a joke. They visited my house 8 times and no steps were taken to get me or my siblings out of our situation. Half the time they didn't even interact with any of us, just spoke with my parents. I'm not surprised that they failed here, too. As long as a house looks somewhat clean and doesn't smell like actual fecal matter, a child is probably not getting out of an abusive situation and if they do, you'd be surprised to see the parents actually punished.
EDIT: To clarify, I mean CPS incompetent in both ways--They'll step in when there are little to no issues present and won't do anything in actual cases of abuse.
not true my house was so messy growing up when CPS came, never took us away.....not even a messy house works, if you have parents who can talk their way out of it your fucked and stuck in an abusive household
@@queendefaultdefault1080 CPS/Dyfcs is a joke only designed to make others feel like we are doing something about children but the truth is that system isn't designed to really handle taking children. That is why they keep kids with the abusive parent. I reality its no hope, and only thing you can do is escape and hope some good soul is willing to help.
@queendefaultdefault1080 agreed. I went through something similar.
It took my teacher noticing bruises I unintentionally revealed to get an investigation started.
Granted, my family talked their way out of it, until my oldest brother ended up in juvenile detention. When they did a physical on him, they discovered all the broken bones he had (a vast majority weren't set, and healed wrong).
ONLY THEN did CPS step up and take me, and my middle brother out.
And yes, my brother and I also had fudged up broken bones.
It's a darn shame it took my oldest brother getting a criminal record to get us out of there.
And it was also the kick in the pants my mother needed to get away from our abuser, cuz it was the only way to get us back.
Because studies have proven that relatively speaking taking a child away from their family does more damage psychological.
I’m not at all defending abuse but it’s a lose lose for the child no matter what. It’s extremely traumatic to take a child away from their home, even if it is abusive. Obviously I’m this case it was necessary but imagine a preteen being placed in a foster home, that would most likely do more l damage to the child than an average abusive house hold. And again, for the cases that involves injury, potential death etc. it’s obviously more beneficial to go to a foster home.
You can’t cure or fix bad parenting, no matter what the child will most likely suffer, CPS tends to go for the lesser evil of just letting the child stay in the abusive household since studies have proven that a child ON AVERAGE will be more traumatized and will have a worse environment
CPS can’t just take kids lmao
The worst thing is this stuff happens all the time.. I had a coworker who had a classmate when she was in middle school who was being SA by her father and everyone knew! The school and her classmates contacted CPS and Police over and over again with evidence and nothing happened till they found out she was pregnant at like 13/14…
what saddens me about this situation is how i wish the teacher could've reported this sooner, they're literally mandated reporters for child abuse and such but not everyone can see the signs. i'm just hoping the children will get their justice and hopefully, get taken in by someone who actually cares about them. i don't trust the father at all.
You’d be surprised how common it is for children to not get help from either authorities or cps when dealing with child abuse and or neglect no matter how much evidence or witnesses or anything are in play and it’s a genuinely massive issue No one talks about
The only ones who talk about it are the survivors, but we are seen as hysterical, especially since many of us developed mental illnesses as a result of the trauma of being raised in an abusive home for 18+ years
The only thing people hate more than an abuser is a truth teller.
Who would be surprised? People who haven't been paying attention?
CPS under-reacts when the situation is serious and overreacts when it's minor. How many dead children have we seen on the news? When the abuse was apparent to everyone - except the government? But they don't hesitate to save the children from the poor and weed smoke.
@@error-try-again-later🙏🙏🙏
I cannot agree with this statement more. It's horrible.
"deep lacerations from being tied up with rope" sends shivers down my spine. People don't understand how dangerous this is if you actually try to use it to restrain someone. Even within the BDSM community rope is treated with the upmost respect because of how much damage you can accidentally do, from cutting off blood flow to damaging nerves if you don't know exactly what you're doing you can really quickly cause permanent damage to someone or even kill them, especially if you leave them unattended which she evidently seemed to do.
*utmost
@@shroomyk now isn't the time for a fucking english lesson buddy.
EXACTLY. you can cause permanent nerve damage to a fully grown adult, i cant imagine how serious it could get with a growing kid. i feel so fucking bad for those kids and hope that boy hasnt sustained any permanent physical damage because. lord knows those kids will have years of mental scars, i cant imagine the constant reminder of the abuse through sustained nerve damage...
@@shroomykreally bro 😂😂😂 dowtmost*
what do you mean, even bsdm? obviously people tying each other up for fun are going to be more careful than the ones torturing someone for real
The news is saying none of this. Only youtubers like Charlie are covering this the way it should be. CZcams failed, the government failed, and worst of all, the family failed these poor children. One of them was able to finally save them all. If these things can happen and seen on the internet for everyone and nothing is done, I don't want to imagine what happens behind closed doors. Children need their own special interest groups so there can be done real systematic change in favor of their well-being and safety.
Children have basically no rights and it's so easy to get away with abusing them. And then we wonder why everyone needs therapy now.
If she didn't get arrested, in the future she would be wondering why her kids don't visit her
CPS harassed me and my family for months because one of our neighbors said we were home on a school day. We were homeschooled, had all the correct paperwork, had engaging social lives and a super healthy family. Still CPS showed up at our door asking for me (I was 9) every two weeks. We had to go to court. Anyway, I CANNOT believe that cps will take a call from a Karen in our neighborhood into account, and not take legitimate calls of abuse into account. Cps has limited resources and it uses it on nothing. It’s infuriating. Even when I was 9 I kept on thinking “don’t they have better stuff to do?” Yes, yes they do.
That's government agencies in the USA for you. Instead of going after the stuff they're actually supposed to, they go after stuff that either isn't illegal, or shouldn't be illegal. People talk about how cops have a power trip issue, but government agents are SO much worse, and aside from the FBI, they barely handle the real issues.
Same here ill edit this comment later cuz i gtg somewhere rn
CPS also harassed us. We were poor but made things work. But they'd look for anything they could find to take us away. It's always the families that aren't abusive and fucked up that they wanna destroy, working months to have those kids taken. But when children are actually being abused and neglected, when kids are part of an actual shitty household, CPS turns the other cheek so fast you wouldn't believe.
Homeschooled you say? Your parents happen to be in a goofier branch of christianity?
@@freakymoejoe2homeschool isnt always in religious families sometimes its parents who want their children to have an actual education instead of what they’re being “taught” at school
It’s the fact that she genuinely sounded happy and proud of herself for legitimately starving her kids
It’s funny how people gave my parents shit for spanking me and my brother when we beat the shit out of each other, sure we were punished but they never starved us
Everyone who supports her content needs investigated.
Your sentenced is unfinished. "It's fact that she genuinely sounded happy..." which did what ?
@@ironicweeb4111I'd be glad if I was u ngl
@@Desto_OP I am very glad my parents never went as far as starving us or locking us out of our rooms
Every kid deserves a parent,but not every parent deserves a kid
The father 100% knew what was happening to those kids in his own house
Esp the part where he's trying to keep the family together.
If only these platforms cared about protecting children as much as they did about protecting advertisers.
This needs more likes.
@@flickcentergaming680why? What are likes going to solve here? Is this like OP’s alt account or something 😂
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@@minermortal1997 Likes boost comments to the top of the comment section
In our defense I’ve seen so many videos against them over about 4 years and comments supporting. I totally agree when it comes to fucking CZcams and Google and their greedy fucking asses
What's worse, this vile woman didn't even _try_ to hide how psychotic she is! She showed & *proudly* told everyone exactly how cruel she was to her kids. And still, this was allowed to continue for YEARS. So many people failed those kids. This has to be stopped.
Because there are so many people who consider themselves "tough parents" but are just abusive. And they don't view that kinda of stuff as serious red flags
If she really was trying to be a good parent, she would at least be upset about it. My parents spanked me as a kid, but they didn't want to and always treated it as a last resort. If you are smiling about punishing your children, take that as a sign there's something wrong with you and get help.
Anyone who has dealt with CPS knows that it’s a terrible organization that couldn’t care less about kids
You know whats the worst thing about psychopathic behaviour? Its that they dont think anything is wrong, its all fine for them.
@@ScottyDoesntKnow69me and my family were in the system. no matter how many cries me and my brother gave telling these fucks that we loved our mother they still threatened to take us away cause she would sometimes spank us. then one lady who was with CPS ditched me in the middle of a busy street cause i have adhd and was an annoying ass kid. cant stress it enough, FUCK cps
As a victim to abuse, not as severe as this but still enough to turn heads, social workers, police, cps, etc. are not much help sometimes. The children’s words get twisted and turned so they become less credible which is why this happens. It’s why I lost trust in police because they weren’t there when me and my siblings needed it
Yall know the oldest sister was parentified and did her best to raise her siblings. I hope shes in a better place now
So, I was taken off of my mom by CPS but not until I was around 12. I told people but no adults remotely took me seriously. Once I told the principal at school that my mom was abusive and she said “mommies don’t do that” and did nothing, but she told my parents so guess what happened. How messed up is it that people were actually concerned and no one was doing ANYTHING for these poor kids. It just continues.
And that's just sad!
@@mago_malvado96 it just goes to show nothing is changing
Children are responsible for their own actions, unless they're calling out adults, they're just stupid little kids when that happens. 🙄
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I really hope that you were able to move on and heal from that and that you were placed somewhere where you were loved and cared for, with people who helped you process and heal and thrive.
Sad story man
This is why as a survivor of child abuse will say that just because someone has the biological ability to create a child does not mean they should be a parent.
I hope this woman and her sister are locked away for life and the children get better parental figures and lots of therapy.
Another quote that relates to that is "Every child deserves a parent but not all parents deserves a child"
I've heard actual horror stories about CA from others. Must've been absolute hell for you. Glad you're doing well now man!
@@Tamo_thehighschoolartist Thanks! I’ve been in therapy for the past 10 years to process what I have been through.
It was hell for sure and I ended up cutting off contact with my abusive parent for my own mental health and betterment.
it's not her sister, actually. hildebrant is a cult leader that roped ruby into another cult after ruby and kevin split. not that ruby needed to be in *another* cult to be abusive, but her actual sisters are pretty appalled by this information apparently
Probably 20 years
The incredibly sad thing is how many children get abused like this and often nothing is ever done about it.
Poor kids, like you said, how on earth could they have gotten away with that for soo long dispite them literally uploading evidence if their abuse on the Internet! Madness.
About the sisters and saying they were keeping quiet to protect the kids: the way I interpret this, perhaps for my own sanity, is that they meant it in the same way that it's not wise to tell a friend's abusive SO that you're going to get them to safety. When an abuser gets the idea or knows that their control is in jeopardy, existing under them becomes so much more dangerous. I think the sister's statement means that they were not vocal and using their platforms to bring attention to the fact that they were making attempts behind the scenes to get those kids away from their monstrous parents.
Maybe... i want to beliebe that, but somehow i feel like it's probably just coping...not wanting to get involved.
Not even did they take Chad's bedroom away, but they also sent him to a wilderness camp (one of the flavors of child abuse camps where careless parents send their kids to strip them of any life force) and if you look at footage of him before and after, it looks like he aged 10 years in a few months.
And do you know WHY they punishes him so severely? For telling his little brother that they were going to Disneyland when they weren't.
Isn't this old news though? Like I thought j Aubrey covered this years ago
@@ollytropics1735 Doesn't change the fact that they did it though. Those "troubled teen" camps are f*cking awful. There is little to no oversight. Physical, mental, and sexual abuse runs rampant. Multiple children have died at these places, and even more have gone on to commit suicide after leaving. Some parents literally sign their parental rights over to these facilities. Some places will kidnap kids from their beds in the middle of the night. It's absolutely disgusting that these awful places are allowed to still operate and continue to hurt children.
@@ollytropics1735 that’s why it’s even more fucked up, people knew about this for years and she’s just now getting arrested for it
That’s probably not why. They are super duper Mormon, and there is a strong purity culture there. It’s more likely that they caught him jerking off, or something they think of as the same thing, like watching media they think of as too sexual. In that world, sexual ‘sin’ is akin to murder. And they probably wouldn’t be willing to tell the whole internet that their child was ‘sinning’ in such a way, but it wouldn’t be unusual to send a kid away to one of these punitive camps over some manner of sexual ‘sin’.
"We don't have a favorite child" they say, "We love all of you equally" they say.
So glad others get to see this terrible situation and agree it's horrible. CZcams and Instagram and their other media sights refused to hear any complaints for sooooooooooo long.
My cousin showed me this family in their start and told me " that you see that. That's not right. If anyone does that you it's not right".
The amount of times I heard that CPS has failed to discover the problem in situations like this is alarming.
The scariest part is that thousands and thousands of people reached out to help and its still taken this damn long
Exactly. My heart aches for all the kids that don’t have thousands of ppl fighting for them.
I mean and obv my heart aches for these kids too it’s just horrific to think of all the awful things being swept under the rug. SMH
no the real scariest part is that this happens all the time, and the childeren arent always lucky enough that the parents posted the crimes on social media
As a fully grown adult who had an abusive father that did some of the exact things this monster did to those kids, I truly feel for them. No child deserves to go hungry for misbehaving. Ever. My dad was a monster, and this woman is too.
Exactly terribly parenting to even think letting them go hungry is teaching them a lesson. Do some actual parenting instead of abusing them and calling it a lessom
sadly, this kind of stuff is more common than it shows on the internet. That's why I feel like all of us should be talking about this sort of stuff more often. What the mom of '8 passengers' did was just about as bad as the Turpin parents@@Prplex.
My parents tried using food as a punishment on my little sister only once. They sent her to bed without dinner, so I got up from the table and took her my plate instead. They only ever tried it once.
My parents weren't perfect, I certainly wouldn't call them abusive. But I wasn't going to let that slide and I think that was enough of a reason for them to agree not to try again. I could tell they didn't want to do it anyway.
As another fully grown adult who has an abusive step mom, who also ticked a bunch of these boxes, anyone - and I mean ANYONE - who would keep food from their kids is abusive. Once, multiple times, it doesn't matter; abuse is abuse and calling it otherwise changes nothing.
Yeah my dad did a lot of the things that this mom has done, other than tie me up. Did probably more to my sisters. He got put in jail cause he had some warrants on him. Beat his ass about a year ago cause him and my sister saw each other at where she had a probation meeting when she called me crying cause he approached her in the parking lot and like yelled at her or something. But yeah, horrible guy, but he’s in prison for probably life
Not the sister saying she kept quiet for the children while the children were getting starved and getting their bedroom taken away FOR 3 YEARS
CPS frequently doesn't do their job. If they don't see it happening right in front of them, they just assume that it's just "a child wanting attention."
Family CZcamsrs should be the number one priority in child abuse investigations. The children are thought of as tools by the parents, rather than living beings.
Definitely this. It's a huge red flag
yup, and it also sets a really bad example on how life with a family should be for the audience.
What if the audience expect that family life will always go that way, but isn't? They will try to control the family to go that way, leading to a miserable family life.
CZcamsrs, etc are normally horrible people.
yeah i have the same feeling about those predator hunters.
@@dreadtrain2846 not really per say, most are likely seeking opportunity to stand out or an opportunity to make money another way. (which really depends on the circumstance a person is going through in life, so making a hasty generalization using those criteria is not a really a good example to judge people)
I knew a social worker. She said you wouldn't believe how hard it is to to get a child out of an abusive family.
As a former social worker... I think it's too easy. This is why 96% of our budget was spent on removing kids and only 4% on supporting families to become better.
Worse one I've seen is a boy who came through my home. He was removed because he wasn't getting food. His mum actually called CPS for help because she had such severe depression and anxiety she couldn't get to the shop. Instead of helping her get the shopping, which she had money to do, they removed her kid. As a foster carer I ended up helping her to find a lawyer to get him back but it took 6 months and he had been through the dreaded group homes before getting to me. They damaged that boy so much.
As a foster care I can say that foster care is often worse than an abusive home. I take the most difficult kids and I can point to two I've had who haven't been abused by foster carers, their kids or other kids in care. One of my kids had PTSD from the act of being removed.
@@MrZoomah You ever think that so much money is spent on that _because_ it's incredibly hard to achieve?
Also, as someone with major clinical depression who can't go off meds, I can say 100% that at my most depressed I was 100% incapable of looking after _myself_ let alone a child. Depression isn't something that just quickly goes away either. If you can't look after a child that is solely reliant on you, you shouldn't have them in your care.
@@jessbellis9510 No matter how much money it costs supporting families, it's cheaper than foster care and much cheaper than the torture placements known as group homes. (Which I have worked in for 3 years). Placing a kid in a group home costs $1800 in Australian dollars... per day. That's right. $650,000 per year. That's on the low end too we some estimates pushing $1mil a year. And in over 90% of cases the kid will come out with a criminal record and addiction due to the other traumatised kids they are placed with. (Note, it's similar in the USA but it varies by state)
You could employ a nurse, a psychologist and a chef to spend 8 hours per day with the mum for the same cost as to put a child in a group home. (Not that I think that's what is needed to support a mum) So the cost of a friendly face coming around to drop off some shopping, or to even come around every day to offer some supports is nothing compared to putting a kid in care.
People have to remember that most parents love their children. I've seen parents do amazing things...but only with help. Unfortunately, governments worldwide refuse to do this.
In my area they reduced kids in foster care by 20% by a nurse visiting at risk mum's once a week for the first 6 months of the babies life. Post natal depression also fell in the area. They cut the funding last year.
@@jessbellis9510It is not like depression says I am coming as long as ypu do not have bipolar disorder or such. You can get it anytime in your life and if you dont have a partner,family that can look after children at the time what are you gonna do? As the person said they abuse the children in foster care that the children fare worse than staying with their parents. It is big problem that needs systemical solutions such as government supporting the family financially and physically. Giving the woman free healthcare for the depression.
I believe it. I live in a rural town in PA. I have a piece of ish cousin that’s on government assistance and continues to pop babies out left and right. She makes her 8 year old boy make food and care for the brothers/sisters she does have (she had 6 kids total, two taken from her custody). My wife’s mother has custody of the other two children of hers (one has autism, the other had his arm broken as a baby by his father). She took up for the guy that broke her son’s arm, and still defends him today.
This p.o.s. has since moved on to another guy and popped out some kids to him. One day this guy was shooting a pellet gun in his backyard and left the children unattended. According to the p.o.s. Mother and father, their youngest boy ran in front of the father and the father shot him in the head with the pellet gun. The boy suffered a TBI and is never going to live a normal life without requiring assistance. His brother, the 8 y/o who has to cook and clean for his siblings, witnessed everything and requires extensive therapy. He went from being an ornery, playful boy to being mean and callous. He no longer has a youthful spark in his eyes. Instead, he has cold/dead eyes. The father and mother had the nerve to blame him for not watching his younger brother, and the father is constantly cruel to him as a result. Since then, he has become increasingly violent, and has even pulled knives and other weapons on people. I have no doubt he will turn to drugs and/or be a killer when he grows up.
The father was initially arrested, but somehow got a sweetheart deal in court where he was only sentenced with probation and time served.
CPS has been called on them numerous times since. They have done absolutely nothing to help those poor children. And she continues to collect from government assistance, popping out baby after baby.
I don’t typically support the death penalty or sterilization… but just thinking of her being free while actively ruining her kids’ lives makes me think otherwise.
I had the "if you don't do this, or stop doing that, you dont get dinner" type stuff. I see what that looks like taken to the extreme thanks to this madman. Punish your kids when they misbehave by all means, but just do something like "no consoles for 2 weeks" or grounding them, this is not the right way as is obvious. Complete insanity
Tbeh there's a specific kind of parenting media that deadass convinces me a nontrivial percentage of parents had kids specifically because they wanted to abuse someone who had very little knowledge, independence or legal recourse
My wife used to work for the school system and she would contact cps all the time for real physical and even sexual abuse by parents and they never did anything. It’s such a shame I hope these kids can grow up more to be okay and stay away from those monsters
Yeah 😢
yup, CPS is unfortunately incredibly underfunded
i never got s'ad by my caregivers but i had by multiple boys in my life and even by a family friend by the age of 7. People dont know what types of abuses can affect a childs pysche. i was flirting w every body in my school and i had a deep seeded hatred for everyone around me
A lot of times, CPS doesn't want to take a kid away from a family because then the state would have to take care of it.
@djtoby5275 then they need to get funds because children are always going to be here and there's always going to be issues regarding abused children. If the government gave a fuck shit like this would be helped immediately. But they dont
Imagine the uphill battle those kids are gonna have regarding maintaining any faith in authority or humanity…
“My mom abused us while thousands watched, and nothing was done about it.”
Like they’re gonna grow up to be activists or nihilists cause no way can you trust a system that allowed that to happen to you once you’ve wrapped your head around it…
Lacerations and duct tape… I can scarcely imagine.
Activism would be a good thing to come from them tbh. They have a horrifying perspective on the eorst of the world, and using that to help others escape similarly terrible shit situations would be invaluable.
I just wish em the best.
That is if the kids are able to seek therapy and don’t commit suicide if they have those kinds of ideations. I hope they are able to rise above the situation.
There is absolutely no way none of those kids will grow up without any form of bias/distaste for the government/superiors (I cant remember the word for it rn).
One of the worst parts about all this was that the thousands that watched their abuser _tried_ to do something about it but the law/people enforcing the law was inadequate and refused to help them.
Witnessing a crime and doing nothing… isn’t that kinda criminal? Lock those 2m parents up!!
@JBravo69 Witnessing a crime on video doesn't count unless possession of the material itself is illegal, like cp. Watching an isis beheading video, for example, isn't illegal, so neither is this. Plus, the content they posted was subjectively immoral but not exactly illegal.
From what I've seen of cases like this (unfortunately there are quite a few) the #1 indicator of an abusive parent is restricting food as a punishment. There is no civilized world where that is a normal thing to do.
That is just such disgusting behavior, to treat your kids lower than even cats or dogs (cause what decent pet owner even does something like that?) and to withhold the one thing you are most responsible for providing.
CPS is complicit in this and many other manners. CPS in multiple states have also been busted for trafficking. CPS is not what people hope it is. It hasn't been for a long, long time.
Sadly, the fact that child protective services brushed it off for that long is really not that bizarre, nor is the fact that she had such a huge following.
I only know who she is because I follow a ton of accounts that talk about childhood trauma, child abuse, gentle parenting, etc. and this woman was called out for being an abuser YEARS ago only to have people insist that they were "too soft" and their children were going to end up spoiled if they thought this woman was abusive. Child abuse survivors can clock these things from a mile away. Remember that people will always show the best version of themselves in public to protect their image. Starving her daughter was the best version of herself.
Also social workers are extremely overworked, underpaid, undertrained people with some of the least consequences for their behaviors. I dont know a single abuse victim who was actually taken seriously by CPS even if they had perfect adult sized hand-shaped bruises on their arms. Social workers abandon hundreds if not thousands of children to die in abusive homes every year because they dont care, dont want to put in the work, and dont have consequences for their behaviors. I once spoke to someone who said their social worker told her "your parents have every right to hit you. If you don't like it, then learn to do what they ask of you."
In most cases, the police & CPS don't actually intervene until the child is dying or dead. I'm glad that little boy was able to save himself before it was too late.
This exact reason I am going to school so I can be DCFS when I was younger I was let down by so many I want to make sure I can help everyone in that situation
I was with you until “they don’t care, don’t want to put in the work”
That’s generalizing. It is true SOMETIMES, but not all of the time. I’m a social worker myself and I have plenty of colleagues who do their absolute best, but let me tell you the burn out is real. They don’t do enough to support social workers, and the over all structure and policies are not always beneficial to those in need. It’s very sad when you know someone needs a specific type of help but cannot get them that help
CPS in general is notorious for being lazy and not doing their jobs
@LyaJen my aunt is a social worker and my parents called her to talk to me when they caught me moving out at 18. she literally did not care when i told her my mother gave me tips on how to kill myself in the least inconvenient way. She told me i needed to stop hurting my parents' feelings and stay by their side.
Children of abuse are systemically oppressed by the people who are PAID to protect us. I have made DOZENS of comments online about this issue, the majority of which defend good social workers. I shouldn't have to "ACAB doesn't include the 1% of good cops" every single time I talk about the system that doesn't punish adults for knowingly and intentionally leaving children to die.
I'm sorry your job fucking sucks. But i should be allowed to talk about how it ENDANGERED MY LIFE without making an aside to fawn over how kind-hearted and hard-working some of you are every time I talk about being left to die as a literal child by every system that was put in place to protect me from harm.
It’s a more complex issue than that. While yes many social workers don’t care (which is horrid), so much of it is burnout/being overworked and not enough pay. There’s a lack of social workers because of how many cases each person is responsible for (upwards of 100+) with no resources for the workers feeling burnt out/compassion fatigue and the pay isn’t worth the toll it takes on the worker. It doesn’t excuse the behavior and overlooking of cases but there are larger systematic issues contributing to the apathy in workers
I can’t imagine being a child and having to be afraid of the person who’s supposed to love and protect you the most.
Many kids unfortunately are experiencing this right now, hope they will go through this and become what they parents aren’t. I’m trying to be what my father wasn’t, unfortunately in his way he thought me what to not be in life.
It's not fun.
You deny your own feelings, creating immense feelings of guilt and shame for simply existing let alone feeling.
Perception is blurred from reality, and until you get out of it- it continues to eat away your sense of self and any potential happiness…. ❤ poor babies, hope they get therapy
I experienced it as a child. It is awful and terrifying and has lasting psychological effects/damage
@@StrayShaz I’m so so sorry. I hope you can find peace and that your abusers meet a painful death.
It's funny Charlie described "8 Passengers" as sounding like a horror movie because the very first Alien movie was based on a horror short story called "The 8th Passenger."
As a child who grew up in an extremely abusive household, CPS or the police not doing anything is not surprising to me. Their abuse was quite literally broadcasted on camera and they didn't do anything even with the community begging for something to be done. This just goes to show how CPS does nothing for abused children...
Meanwhile CPS shows up to my house twice because I talked about the abuse I suffered at the hands of my middle school boyfriend TWO YEARS AGO
as someone who was a victim of child abuse, cps is worthless half the time. and it doesn’t help the situation if the children are scared of the outcome and won’t fess up and they just take that at face value. we had cops coming to our house EVERY NIGHT and they kept us there. holes in the walls and visible broken furniture and these dipsticks were just like “oh yeah that’s fine just go to ur grandmas for the night and your literal nightmare will be out in the morning” our justice system and our system in place to protect children is so badly flawed.
Some parents view kids as some sort of toy, a plaything to mess with. And that is nothing short of fucking revolting. I'm so sorry that had happened to you, I wish someone had tooken action, and I truly wish you and whatever victim was in that hellhole was provided with safety and love.
The sad truth of the matter is, the state doesn't want abused kids. CPS goes after normal families instead because they want healthy young kids to sell to the highest bidder. The state doesn't want to have to care for mentally/physically unhealthy children until they're 18, they want kids they can quickly adopt out and make a quick buck from.
In many places CPS is afraid to do anything because well - look at the comments on videos of CPS removing children in a lot of cases and watch how many people say CPS is evil, CPS is child traffickers, this and that. Add to the fact that the social workers within CPS are woefully overworked, underpaid, barely able to make student loan payments (often they have to have a Master's degree for this absolutely thankless job) and have none of the resources they need to do their job the way it needs to be done. We can't blame CPS for this - society is the one who made CPS as non-functional as it is. We need to blame legislators for not funding them properly and as a society judge them fairly for doing the job instead of berating them no matter what they do.
@@kenirainseeker539 See? My exact point. Apparently the social workers getting paid pennies are now in on this grand conspiracy to steal healthy children from "normal" families? Like...conspiracies have destroyed so many functions of government in this country because people think that when they function poorly it's out of malice.
@@kenirainseeker539So true