Good morning everyone! Just to confirm, Honda will be revealing the new Civic Hatchback on 6/23. Stay tuned for a video on that vehicle sometime next week!
the great way about your review, every car you tested. you just got to check the acceleration and reaction you get. so cool, will be waiting for your review on the hatchback. I’m looking around mid july to purchase one.
one mistake tho, elantra sound systems are not harman kardon, theyre bose. And the elantra does not get over the air updates either, you're being a bit too visibly biased man
@@ExRev79 I'm pretty sure lot of times reviewers don't get to pick, the car makers, especially probably new models, send them the highest trim so they can show off all the features and kind of enticing people thinking about LX to pony up for fully loaded trims...
When you're well into your 20's with a career, mortgage, married with a kid on the way, the new civic is appropriately upscale and classier. I was way tired of the old Civic that was perfect for angry 17 year olds hopped up on Red Bull and vodka, but sooner or later you grow up and that's what happened to the Civic.
The 10th gen has more personality and reflects the old JDM lifestyle. If "mature" people want to make a statement there's the Accord, even better, a CRV for the family! Why buy a compact car to fit in all those diaper bags??? xD
@@jexjux Because it's a lot more affordable. The financial difference between a Civic and an Accord may not mean much to some folks but it means a lot to us. Besides, if we can't fit 2 kids in the back of a Civic, ( 2 is the limit ) that seats 2 adults, then there's something wrong with us. A CRV is out of the question. I absolutely refuse to buy an SUV, firstly for the same reason I won't buy a more expensive vehicle, because we need the money more than Honda does. Besides, SUV's by nature are more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, more expensive to fuel and more expensive to repair than a regular road car, it's a trend that needs to go away. For our needs and purposes, a decent, affordable and reliable road car is a perfect fit, and I love the more " mature " styling. I didn't even like the extreme angry insect over-styled look when I was a teenager and had every right to embrace it. Maybe maturity starts earlier in others or maybe it's just a style preference, who knows, but the quality built, upscale styled, affordable sedan that makes us look like we can afford more car than we actually can gets our vote.
@@alvinsimba734 Agreed. Naturally aspirated is also much better for your engine in the long run as the turbo will produce extra internal pressure and just wear things out faster. I've heard CZcams mechanic Scotty Kilmer go on about how he doesn't like turbos if you're planning to keep your car for the long haul like I do.
@@patrickchubey3127 just make sure the AC compressors don't break down once the warranty is over especially for civics. That alone was the reason why I went for a Corolla LE instead.
I’m currently trying to lock down a 2022 Civic…and that Touring trim looks very good (I had a 2016 Touring)! The Bose system is almost enough on its own to sell me on the trim. ❤️🚗
Man I have a Honda Civic sport hatchback 6 MT and I’m sick of it. I choose that because a hate the CVT and the hitches from the MT is not that good. Apparently the 11th gen civic will be the same.
Yes next year they should also remove front heated seats, and give us back manual steering instead of electronic steering. That is more like economical and profitable for Honda.
@@furiousfragment7082 You might be onto something. Top spec Civic prices are outrageous. Maybe I haven't paid attention the last few years, but I've never seen a used Civic listed for more than $30k until a couple weeks ago.
Calling this a "compact" is gaslighting on the part of the automotive industry. It's 182" in length, an Accord by another name. The car industry is goading Americans into buying bigger, heavier and more expensive cars by redefining what 'small' is.
That's because bigger cars with more room and more features is what most Americans want. Car companies ask American consumers what they want in a car all the time and one of the most common things that's asked for is bigger cars like this.
@@97I30T The problem is those bigger cars *already exist*. They just slowly grow up the chain until they die while a new car is born nowadays. Case and point: Ford F-150, Ford Ranger, *Ford Maverick*.
Yup i do agree, if you live in the US it's no problem at all, but i live in Indonesia (South east asia) it just total nonsense its to big for Compact sedan, even here they're just as big like toyota Fortuner which is an ladder frame SUV
I’ll never understand 0-60 obsession. It’s rare that anyone floors their car to 60. I feel like 20-55mph numbers would be much more indicative of performance from both the engine and transmission.
It's not that people are obsessing with going from 0-60mph in real life. The faster a car's 0-60 is, the faster it's 0-20, 0-30mph will be. 0-60 is just a typical acceleration benchmark.
It's a classic benchmark, you need that to accurately compare different vehicles for acceleration, most car people indeed care very much for this stat.
This 11th Generation Civic is going to continue to sell very well. Honda is truly UNFAZED by all of the aggressive designs that Kia and Hyundai are putting out. The one complaint I have is the VW Jetta taillights.
That new interior is amazing on this new generation especially considering the class that the Civic sits in. I also like that even though the Civic is technically in the “compact” segment it’s actually really spacious and almost lower mid-size like. I do miss that boy-racer type of look that 10th gen gave it, it was distinctive but the new gen should bring more buyers in which is nice for Honda. The turn signals for the Touring trim is definitely a missed opportunity though.
@@jexjux Thats because of the scarcity, not it being unpopular. Ive been looking for one for a few weeks since my car was totaled and I havent found an EX for sale within 100 miles.
I feel like journalists expect the world from every car. Why is it bad that a civic does not have a pano roof, cooled seats, 10in. infotainment, 360 camera, ect.? shouldn't it be judged for what it is? It seems as though every vehicle gets held to the standard of the luxury class.
I love that new interior, far superior to the 10th gen that I owned. I find the styling very upscale and I can't wait to see what the Si and type r are going to look like.
@@BigDonkMongo The hatchback I didn't mind the styling because it didn't have the chrome beak. Same for Si and later sport models got rid of the chrome beak as well.
My only complaints with it are that it doesn't look quite like a Civic to me? Civics have always had unique and maybe somewhat controversial designs, and they played it really safe with the new one. I feel like they could have gone with a more whacky angle and still made it look good. Just my opinion though.
@@ChickenC0re True. But I mean an actual sedan. Plus as the Civic grows that gap will widen, and you can already fit a 5th, 6th, or 7th gen civic in there. Heck this new model is the size of the 3rd and 4th gen Accord.
This car would’ve EASILY been class leading if it had ventilated seats, rear ac vents, standard blind spot detection, and 8 and 10in infotainment displays. Definitely a good choice but Honda still missed the mark in the packaging area
Those features will be on new accord they have differentiate sales . If you throw all of those bells and whistles on a civic , accord sales would drop by a big margin. It’s all mental
@@markmarrero3222 the accord already has all of those features except a 10 inch display. But even the accord lacks things its competition has. 10 inch infotainment ( which I won't trip about because with accord will be 4 years old this year) panoramic moonroof, a premium audio system, 360 rear view camera, and parking assist. Features the majority of the competition has, and the same features the accord in most parts of Asia has. There's no excuse.
@@BigEightiesNewWave Have you seen the upcoming GTI? Sofyan made a first look posted 6 days ago - you should watch it. If you take a closer of this new civic air vents design it reminds me of the MK5 HoneyComb grill and I do not like piano black panels... its a bitch to clean off the dust, finger prints and after a year you will start seeing swirl marks and it will get worse from there. I hope this comment is smart enough ;)
@@yomi_jeremy3964 to buff. I prefer the interior of the civic, but I really like the performance out of the new gti. Now I’m just waiting for the SI version and see which one to get.
@@cjb8764 my bad bro, i thought it was someone else replying to the both of you. I too prefer the interior of the Civic but like the performance of the GTI.
“This car doesn’t get OTA updates like it’s competitors” Bro at 8:23 on the home screen, there’s an app that says “System Updates” and like the accord, it does get OTA updates.
It's good he notes it, because others offer it. NO car will have every single one, but knowing which are omitted on any given car is crucial because who knows what any given person will find important.
No rear seat vents, no cooled seats, no memory seats and no lumbar support in the top trim - that's not competitive. Even the Kia Cerato GT offers these luxuries as a 2018 model (except for lumbar support). Quite disappointed. I was looking forward to purchasing this Civic, but am not so sure now, considering how its features stack up against its rivals'. At the end of the day, I'll have to finance whatever I end up with. If that happens to be this Civic, the last thing I need is to resent it for not giving me the value that others could have. Thanks Redline; your attention to these details are very helpful as they give me pause for thought as to which major purchase I'll be slavishly paying for over the next few years.
It cost more to get those extra aforementioned belts and whistles hence pushing into the "top of the line" midsize sedan territory. > $30k civic make zero sense for average buyer.
Sadly! CVTs are more efficient.. And they're becoming the norm. At least in this segment I hope! They don't do the same with the Accord I hope they keep offering the manual or regular 5 speed Auto.. with the sport trim.
Outside styling is wayy too conservative, they are going to lose sales as civic sporty design is always what set it apart from corolla.. but right now the corolla especially the hatchback looks so much sportier than the civic.also That front end is hideous..
I hear you, but People don’t just buy these for sport. Some buyers want a good car that’s a certain size and refinement and amenities without spending thousands more for luxury nameplates. They will make an so version with sporty accents and dynamics. This touring is good like this.
@@CG-rb4xo yep. im looking to get rid of my old beater corolla and finally get a new car. the civic 2022 is one of the choices along with the insight or corolla hybrid. people keep talking about "sporty" or whatever...MOST of us don't really give a damn if it is. most of us want something that look decent and can take us from point a to point b. if we can save on gas its even better. if the engine gives us a kicks even more better. it's nice to have but it's not a requirement. although for the new civic i don't like the rear light desing. i prefer the one on the insight.
The last Civic was an ugly turd, especially the Type R. It looked ridiculous. The design never sold the car. What sells the Civic is that it is a nice cheap car for first time drivers. It was not a sporty design...it basically looked like shit, and the dash looked like it came out of the 70s with the style.
@@hillstones Neither the new Civic nor the new Corolla are cheap. If you want a cheap car, buy the Chevrolet Spark, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent, or Nissan Versa.
Even the new Elantra doesn’t, it doesn’t even have USB charge port. If you do want rear AC vents, Honda would gladly sell you an Accord. The compact sedan suits a person who mostly drives the car himself or with another passenger, but if you do have a family of 4 or 5 that constantly traveling with you, why don’t you just spend a few thousand dollars to get an accord or any other Mid-sized Sedan?
You nailed the issue with the “nose” a defined line or changing the vertical portion of the nose to either black or should I even dare say chrome would’ve looked better in my opinion..
I really like the way you describe vehicles in all its dynamics. I also like how you're not bias and or loyal to any brand! Well done. I always enjoy your reviews.
I received my 2022 Ex model last Wednesday September 1 2021 with 4 miles on it I drove it up north and back I now have over 730 miles on it and I haven’t had it a week yet it drives great I was on vacation I go back to work this week
First Civic I ever considered, seems nice for young folks like me ( I’m 25) but of course I didn’t buy it, went for a new Hilux with the 2.8L turbo diesel, lovely I know
I have a Nissan Sentra 2007 with 307,000 miles a 1994 Toyota Corolla with 507,000 miles & a 2019 with 85,000 miles. My Corolla is a stick shift I was going to get a Camry 2020 to Compliment my Corolla but I think I am going to get a 2023 Honda 6 or 7 spd Honda Civic Hatchback ... Nihon(s) done Well, love Reliability, MPG & Last for a very long Time 🙌🏽🙌🏽
I love this car and plan on getting a Touring Hatchback after having an EX 10th-Generation Hatchback in the past. This having more Accord-like styling works well for me, but I'm really hoping the infotainment issues are just a temporary thing. The previous generation's infotainment (outside of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto) was one of the worst aspects of the interior. Glad to hear the noise has been reduced and and that you found the well-roundedness of the car to still be present. Another excellent review!
@@cpMetis I'm not a sedan person but no sedan that sells over 300,000 units a year nowadays is overrated. Sedans don't sell like their suv counterparts so yea the Civic is kind of a big deal for Honda.
I like the design of previous gen, this reminds me of the older Chevy Cruze, I find the design on the boring side. I get the Accord influence but the Accord looks better. I need to see it in person to draw my conclusion. Honda kills me with those turn signal lights , make them LED!
Lol. I had a 2011 Chevy Cruze RS. It was pretty nice, but the engine and trans was a lemon. My worst of 6 GM cars never again! The Civic Sport Hatchback is everythingvI want, unless I can springvfor the Sport Touring Hatchback. And if you're talkingbabout the rear turn signals, LasFit has LED Turn Signal and Reverse Lights that should be brighter. Their LED interior and trunk lights are really bright, and their weather mats are great and cheaper thsn Weather Tech.
@Ian Kaczer yup! Took alot off dealer shopping but finally found one that sold not a cent over msrp! I love this car. I think it might be a " classic" . Time will tell.
I find it sorta weird you point out that when you first start the car, the infotainment system is slow. When you turn your phone on, it doesn't perform 100% fast until you let it load everything. Same thing with the infotainment system.
That new camera....wow. I'm going to start using Redline video's to show off my OLED. All we need is HDR! Great vid, and the new Civic is what Honda needed. Last one was hideous. Type R should be actually fit to look at now. Never buying CVT again though
Last Honda to have Bose was the 1993 Accord SE I believe. And the 10th gen Civic Touring offered heated rear seats sedan and hatch. This generation does not. I really like your reviews but this felt like you were trying to find things to hate on for the heck of it. However, I do agree with you on one thing, that dolphin head grill needs to be updated ASAP.
@@s4nder86 pfff… Bose sounds excellent compared to stock or cheap “premium audio” systems Honda had been previously using. I would upgrade any audio system, but modern cars have too much integrated junk. With dynamat all around doors my current car with Bose sounds almost perfect. I know better stock audio is out there - they use ELS Studio by Panasonic in Acura and it is better than Bose. I had ELS in my previous RDX, it sounded great.
Honda had Bose systems in the 89 and 93 Accord special edition trims. Also, the last couple years of the 92-97 Civics that were specifically EX coupes got an Acoustic Research branded stereo. Very rare!
Beautiful car! Looks finally better I think! Sad that they couldn’t at least put a 200hp engine in it with a 8 speed automatic! They way it was accelerating looks like you would get ran over on the freeway
@@SpinachLeaf then we need to get rid of the CVT, and still at 200hp! Test drove it, the pick up is HORRIBLE! Regardless of class, be different and unique and increase the HP Honda
@@mrlv4525 maybe get an accord 2.0t, civic si, forte gt, jetta gli, golf gti, a base camry, etc. You have many options around this price point the civic is not just the sole option
I got the 2021 Elantra limited last week, and I am regretting my decision. I thought this Civic was like another 4-5 months away. This Civic looks miles better, especially the interior, on the Elantra the materials are extremely cheap.
It’s crazy because I am currently cross shopping both of these cars.. and I thought the Elantra had a more exciting interior. What things feel cheap about the Elantra if you don’t mind me asking? The interior looks more interesting at a glance.
Other reviewers commented that the new 'bee-hive' dashboard on that Civic would be a bitch to clean! Now that the Accord and Civic are built on the same platform, they are both the same car.
I have a 2019 version touring that’s fully loaded. AWD and also heated seats in the back. Honda premium sound. So I think the Gen 10 was the best of the touring.
Im eager to see how the new hatch does over the next few years. While I love my car and adore the look of the dual centre exhausts, the bigger trunk in the upper trims (sport and touring models had 22.6 cubes in the current hatch compared to reported 24.5 in the new), improved audio and being made in the States could be big differentiators. My car is made in the UK and has more squeaks and rattles than I'd expect from a Honda.
sofyan,do not ever brake start a cvt car.Dude,u have been in this business for a long time,so u should already know the cvt have already been programmed from the get go.Juz directly floor it,u vl get the correct result O.o
@@SSC3034 its not about damage, for some reason,if u brake start a cvt ,its just slower to get pickup.I have tried on my civic and corolla.Its just programmed that way.
I prefer the 10th gen aggressive sportier look over this 11th gen vanilla family sedan design. I don’t hate it. But I don’t love it, either. I hate the interior knobs and the mesh vents. Not a fan of the screen placement either. Looks Ike I’ll be waiting five or six years to see if Honda returns to the popular 10th gen sportier design philosophy.
@@braetonwilson4296 You suggest a ford over a Honda? A new model to boot over a line up thats been out a while? That Maverick will still be getting bugs worked out 3 years later. Never the first year of a model release.
A very thorough review. I’m in the UK, Civics don’t sell that well in the UK, which is a shame. I’d be surprised if Honda even import the sedan version and as for the engines, I think we might get the 1.5 turbo, but this country will be looking for hybrids at least, if not fully electric. Looking forward to seeing the hatch. Most of the competition in Europe is so different here. The competition is really VW Golf, Astra, Ford Focus, Peugeot, then Audi A3, Mercedes Benz A class and BMW 1 series. The Corolla doesn’t sell that well either, with the Mazda 3 being the only similar rivals that you have in the states.
They need to hurry up and come out with that ILX replacement, there was already little reason to buy an ILX over the 10th gen Civic but this 11th gen makes it completely pointless.
Im surprised because the outgoing civic touring had rear heated seats, however it looks like they probably subbed it out for the rear usb ports, which is probably the better choice for most people.
It is amazing how much technology is packed in new vehicles compare to 30 years ago but yet they cannot build newer vehicles that will outlast cars built 30 years ago… this is a reflection how low standard people are putting up with auto manufacturers. They are all wired with so many computers and inferior Turbo engines and GDI engines which will carbon up in no time.
Truly exciting to see the Civic with all of these nice updates. I just can’t imagine what theyre doing to do with the Acura ILX. Will they kill it? Rename it? Rumors the RSX is coming back.
Good morning everyone! Just to confirm, Honda will be revealing the new Civic Hatchback on 6/23. Stay tuned for a video on that vehicle sometime next week!
the great way about your review, every car you tested. you just got to check the acceleration and reaction you get. so cool, will be waiting for your review on the hatchback. I’m looking around mid july to purchase one.
I really hope you're going to be sent the manual version!!!
one mistake tho, elantra sound systems are not harman kardon, theyre bose. And the elantra does not get over the air updates either, you're being a bit too visibly biased man
why not review the LX or Ex which most people will get.
@@ExRev79 I'm pretty sure lot of times reviewers don't get to pick, the car makers, especially probably new models, send them the highest trim so they can show off all the features and kind of enticing people thinking about LX to pony up for fully loaded trims...
When you're well into your 20's with a career, mortgage, married with a kid on the way, the new civic is appropriately upscale and classier. I was way tired of the old Civic that was perfect for angry 17 year olds hopped up on Red Bull and vodka, but sooner or later you grow up and that's what happened to the Civic.
The 10th gen has more personality and reflects the old JDM lifestyle. If "mature" people want to make a statement there's the Accord, even better, a CRV for the family! Why buy a compact car to fit in all those diaper bags??? xD
@@jexjux Because it's a lot more affordable. The financial difference between a Civic and an Accord may not mean much to some folks but it means a lot to us. Besides, if we can't fit 2 kids in the back of a Civic, ( 2 is the limit ) that seats 2 adults, then there's something wrong with us. A CRV is out of the question. I absolutely refuse to buy an SUV, firstly for the same reason I won't buy a more expensive vehicle, because we need the money more than Honda does. Besides, SUV's by nature are more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, more expensive to fuel and more expensive to repair than a regular road car, it's a trend that needs to go away. For our needs and purposes, a decent, affordable and reliable road car is a perfect fit, and I love the more " mature " styling. I didn't even like the extreme angry insect over-styled look when I was a teenager and had every right to embrace it. Maybe maturity starts earlier in others or maybe it's just a style preference, who knows, but the quality built, upscale styled, affordable sedan that makes us look like we can afford more car than we actually can gets our vote.
@@patrickchubey3127 good points. The sweet spot is civic LX trim as it does not have turbo and cheaper to repair long term.
@@alvinsimba734 Agreed. Naturally aspirated is also much better for your engine in the long run as the turbo will produce extra internal pressure and just wear things out faster. I've heard CZcams mechanic Scotty Kilmer go on about how he doesn't like turbos if you're planning to keep your car for the long haul like I do.
@@patrickchubey3127 just make sure the AC compressors don't break down once the warranty is over especially for civics. That alone was the reason why I went for a Corolla LE instead.
We just bought this exact model, pre-owned, with only 15k miles on it, and we love it!! Great review; thanks for making it.
Does it have heated steering wheel?
Personally, the new civic looks better than the last generation
Last gen looked like a joke.
The last gen was a boy racer inspired looking car this one looks nicer and mature looking
@@FB6K24Z7 exactly
I agree! The last gen had too many plastic fake vents, the rear end was ugly
I love 10th gen. I have a 2017 SI and I think the styling is fitting. However I can see why the new civic look is appealing as well :)
I’m currently trying to lock down a 2022 Civic…and that Touring trim looks very good (I had a 2016 Touring)! The Bose system is almost enough on its own to sell me on the trim. ❤️🚗
Rip to the coupe, I think that the front end would have made a really mature coupe look
Accord and Jetta had a baby
Nice work Sofyan! Now let's get that 6speed hatchback 😎
Who?
@@RLTtizME Sofyan Bey, the person doing this review.
@@elmhurst86 Who? Alex?
Man I have a Honda Civic sport hatchback 6 MT and I’m sick of it. I choose that because a hate the CVT and the hitches from the MT is not that good. Apparently the 11th gen civic will be the same.
He said there will be no manual Civics. Si and R will only have manuals available.
Took one out for test drive and I was impressed ! Interior quality is great and it’s hot an Audi feel to it !
I like the new styling, simple and elegant. Much more to my liking than the previous generation.
Heated and cooled seats and memory seats really are not expected on an economy compact sedan, nor are rear seat air vents.
Yes next year they should also remove front heated seats, and give us back manual steering instead of electronic steering. That is more like economical and profitable for Honda.
Yes, what is expected is sluggish performance and horrible CVT and engine noise!!
@@furiousfragment7082 You might be onto something. Top spec Civic prices are outrageous. Maybe I haven't paid attention the last few years, but I've never seen a used Civic listed for more than $30k until a couple weeks ago.
@@texan903 that’s chip shortage bull crap
Calling this a "compact" is gaslighting on the part of the automotive industry. It's 182" in length, an Accord by another name. The car industry is goading Americans into buying bigger, heavier and more expensive cars by redefining what 'small' is.
That's because bigger cars with more room and more features is what most Americans want. Car companies ask American consumers what they want in a car all the time and one of the most common things that's asked for is bigger cars like this.
@@97I30T The problem is those bigger cars *already exist*. They just slowly grow up the chain until they die while a new car is born nowadays.
Case and point: Ford F-150, Ford Ranger, *Ford Maverick*.
Yup i do agree, if you live in the US it's no problem at all, but i live in Indonesia (South east asia) it just total nonsense its to big for Compact sedan, even here they're just as big like toyota Fortuner which is an ladder frame SUV
Or could it be that Americans are getting bigger and overweight that the car companies have to accommodate them?
I'm 6'5 and I fit comfortably, so keep makin em bigger
Maaan, this looks so much better to me than previous generations. Nice on Honda.
It’s definitely more stream lined. I love my 10th gen si though!
I’ll never understand 0-60 obsession. It’s rare that anyone floors their car to 60. I feel like 20-55mph numbers would be much more indicative of performance from both the engine and transmission.
0-60 times can be very important, especially in Pennsylvania. Some of the on-ramps are incredibly short with no merge lane.
It's not that people are obsessing with going from 0-60mph in real life. The faster a car's 0-60 is, the faster it's 0-20, 0-30mph will be. 0-60 is just a typical acceleration benchmark.
Bro has definitely never driven in New Jersey 😂
It's a classic benchmark, you need that to accurately compare different vehicles for acceleration, most car people indeed care very much for this stat.
it's a very useful metric
This 11th Generation Civic is going to continue to sell very well. Honda is truly UNFAZED by all of the aggressive designs that Kia and Hyundai are putting out. The one complaint I have is the VW Jetta taillights.
That new interior is amazing on this new generation especially considering the class that the Civic sits in. I also like that even though the Civic is technically in the “compact” segment it’s actually really spacious and almost lower mid-size like. I do miss that boy-racer type of look that 10th gen gave it, it was distinctive but the new gen should bring more buyers in which is nice for Honda. The turn signals for the Touring trim is definitely a missed opportunity though.
The Mazda3's interior blows it away though.
That honeycomb grill will be a pain to clean. Also the 10th gen sold like hot pancakes, I've yet to see an 11th gen on the roads.
@@jexjux Thats because of the scarcity, not it being unpopular. Ive been looking for one for a few weeks since my car was totaled and I havent found an EX for sale within 100 miles.
@@jexjux It also launched in the middle of a major part shortage and then the mass shutdown in September.
I wish they would of found a good balence between looking mature or Sporty.
Hyundai and Kia have killed it with their redesigns.
I feel like journalists expect the world from every car. Why is it bad that a civic does not have a pano roof, cooled seats, 10in. infotainment, 360 camera, ect.? shouldn't it be judged for what it is? It seems as though every vehicle gets held to the standard of the luxury class.
A mini Accord, that's a good thing.
I love that new interior, far superior to the 10th gen that I owned. I find the styling very upscale and I can't wait to see what the Si and type r are going to look like.
I hope Honda fix the interior rattles. My 2020 Civic, while I still love it, sometimes it can be a rattle box.
I miss and love the 10th gen styling. definitely the only gen I'm considering picking up now
@@asdfghjqwertyu1858 10thG Accord rattle box also. Also 8g civic same
@@asdfghjqwertyu1858 I just drove the 22 civic and no rattles, unlike my 17 civic that rattled from day one.
@@BigDonkMongo The hatchback I didn't mind the styling because it didn't have the chrome beak. Same for Si and later sport models got rid of the chrome beak as well.
My only complaints with it are that it doesn't look quite like a Civic to me? Civics have always had unique and maybe somewhat controversial designs, and they played it really safe with the new one. I feel like they could have gone with a more whacky angle and still made it look good. Just my opinion though.
honda really nailed the new civic. it is really, for the first time, making me wnt to buy one.
It’s probably a matter of time until the Civic becomes large enough that Honda will need to slot a smaller car beneath it.
They had the Fit for years.
@@ChickenC0re True. But I mean an actual sedan. Plus as the Civic grows that gap will widen, and you can already fit a 5th, 6th, or 7th gen civic in there. Heck this new model is the size of the 3rd and 4th gen Accord.
@@icculus Can we call this the "Ranger Paragox" in honor of the Ford problem? Ranger is new mini-F-150, takes over F-150, introduce Maverick.
the honda city would be great. or bring the fit back.
The Civic will take over the role of the Fit and Accord. Sedans are going away. The Accord is about to get dropped as sales are way down.
This car would’ve EASILY been class leading if it had ventilated seats, rear ac vents, standard blind spot detection, and 8 and 10in infotainment displays.
Definitely a good choice but Honda still missed the mark in the packaging area
They know they don’t need to go that hard, Kia and Hyundai need those features to sell well but civics will sell well no matter what 😂
Well it cost extra. No reason to be nitpicking a lil bit more as to have THE perfect car AND pay less than $28k.
@@edgaryzen4925 the competition has those features. There's no excuse 🤷🏿♂️
Those features will be on new accord they have differentiate sales . If you throw all of those bells and whistles on a civic , accord sales would drop by a big margin. It’s all mental
@@markmarrero3222 the accord already has all of those features except a 10 inch display. But even the accord lacks things its competition has. 10 inch infotainment ( which I won't trip about because with accord will be 4 years old this year) panoramic moonroof, a premium audio system, 360 rear view camera, and parking assist. Features the majority of the competition has, and the same features the accord in most parts of Asia has. There's no excuse.
Why VW couldn’t make the interior of their GTI look like this? 🤦
why should they ? What a stupid comment.
@@BigEightiesNewWave Have you seen the upcoming GTI? Sofyan made a first look posted 6 days ago - you should watch it. If you take a closer of this new civic air vents design it reminds me of the MK5 HoneyComb grill and I do not like piano black panels... its a bitch to clean off the dust, finger prints and after a year you will start seeing swirl marks and it will get worse from there.
I hope this comment is smart enough ;)
@@cjb8764 are you replying to Cj B or Buff Barnaby? lol i'm confused whether you prefer the interior of the new Civic or the new GTI.
@@yomi_jeremy3964 to buff. I prefer the interior of the civic, but I really like the performance out of the new gti. Now I’m just waiting for the SI version and see which one to get.
@@cjb8764 my bad bro, i thought it was someone else replying to the both of you. I too prefer the interior of the Civic but like the performance of the GTI.
Peep the “My Type Remix” playing in the back.
Fire track 🤣
“This car doesn’t get OTA updates like it’s competitors”
Bro at 8:23 on the home screen, there’s an app that says “System Updates” and like the accord, it does get OTA updates.
Ouch.
I like how it looks like the Accord, for those who want an Accord but can’t afford one.
If you want an accord that bad you can just buy used?
@@Brazillianboi69 true but I meant for something brand new, but yes, that is true.
@@bradleymeyer9775 civics are a few thousand dollars cheaper than accords out the door at California dealerships. Can easily save a few bucks more.
I’m ready for the new ilx 😍
The bulky part in the front reminds me of a dolphin head.
Hahaha you nailed it - I kind of like it
🤣🤣🤣
Yes,EXACTLY!!!
I love how you were listening to “My Type” by Saweetie featuring City Girls!!!!! Yessssssssss
Okay ! I was looking for this comment haha 💅🏽
@@Trackstar491 yeah that definitely caught my attention 😄
He’s on his “bad bitch” / “hot boy shit” as he should be 👏🏼💅🏼
I'm ready to trade my 9th Gen Ex for this one
Long overdue! 😂
definitely looks like a huge upgrade.
You should look at the Mazda 3 as well.
Nice man. Hope you love your next Civic.
Definitely crossshop this touring model with the Mazda 3 touring, Nissan Sentra SV, and Kia Forte GT!
Great looking car. Impressive interior too. Simple ergonomic and elegant dash design. Much nicer than the new Golf with its awful capacitive controls.
Why do you always say a subcompact car is missing features that NEVER has been offered? No cooled seats? Shocker.
Elantra Hybrid Limited does offer Ventilated seats. Forte also offers.
Not a fan of cooled seats. Makes your butt feel wet and nasty.
It's good he notes it, because others offer it.
NO car will have every single one, but knowing which are omitted on any given car is crucial because who knows what any given person will find important.
No rear seat vents, no cooled seats, no memory seats and no lumbar support in the top trim - that's not competitive. Even the Kia Cerato GT offers these luxuries as a 2018 model (except for lumbar support). Quite disappointed. I was looking forward to purchasing this Civic, but am not so sure now, considering how its features stack up against its rivals'. At the end of the day, I'll have to finance whatever I end up with. If that happens to be this Civic, the last thing I need is to resent it for not giving me the value that others could have. Thanks Redline; your attention to these details are very helpful as they give me pause for thought as to which major purchase I'll be slavishly paying for over the next few years.
It cost more to get those extra aforementioned belts and whistles hence pushing into the "top of the line" midsize sedan territory. > $30k civic make zero sense for average buyer.
Understandable. Just be aware that delay gratification don't always work.
What did you end up going with ?
Still waiting on the 2022 hatchback version to get announced... Want to see that interior.
? The interior will be practically identical, just like the 10th gen
@@F1zzzy90 More than likely, yes, it will be the same. Not betting on anything though.
The hatchback will probably come in a sport touring trim again with more features than the regular touring had! Like heated rear seats
June 23rd it will be
Thanks for the review. The CVT sounds really bad... wish they would offer a traditional auto as an option.
CVTs are not fun. Sport mode with a CVT is like .. 💀👀🤷♂️
Majority of compact cars today have CVTs the only ones that don’t use it is the Jetta and Mazda 3. These are not performance cars
@@f181234 I own a 2016 Accord CVT with 186k miles. They are simply less enjoyable and responsive.
Honda used to offer 5AT for Civic, but looks like Honda feel it is not efficient as the CVT does, so...
Sadly! CVTs are more efficient.. And they're becoming the norm. At least in this segment I hope! They don't do the same with the Accord I hope they keep offering the manual or regular 5 speed Auto.. with the sport trim.
Love it althought the exterior is a bit too gentle.
The interior makes this new Honda a new VW... with the quality and the perfect ergonomy
This is an Accord/Camry love child!
Outside styling is wayy too conservative, they are going to lose sales as civic sporty design is always what set it apart from corolla.. but right now the corolla especially the hatchback looks so much sportier than the civic.also That front end is hideous..
Even the Corolla SE/XSE sedan looks sportier and more youthful than this 2022 Civic.
I hear you, but People don’t just buy these for sport. Some buyers want a good car that’s a certain size and refinement and amenities without spending thousands more for luxury nameplates. They will make an so version with sporty accents and dynamics. This touring is good like this.
@@CG-rb4xo yep. im looking to get rid of my old beater corolla and finally get a new car. the civic 2022 is one of the choices along with the insight or corolla hybrid. people keep talking about "sporty" or whatever...MOST of us don't really give a damn if it is. most of us want something that look decent and can take us from point a to point b. if we can save on gas its even better. if the engine gives us a kicks even more better. it's nice to have but it's not a requirement. although for the new civic i don't like the rear light desing. i prefer the one on the insight.
The last Civic was an ugly turd, especially the Type R. It looked ridiculous. The design never sold the car. What sells the Civic is that it is a nice cheap car for first time drivers. It was not a sporty design...it basically looked like shit, and the dash looked like it came out of the 70s with the style.
@@hillstones Neither the new Civic nor the new Corolla are cheap. If you want a cheap car, buy the Chevrolet Spark, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent, or Nissan Versa.
For some reason rear seat air vents are very rare in the compact class even the Mazda 3 doesn’t have them in North America
You are very detail oriented. Those are the first things I look for when purchasing a new car.
my jetta doesn’t either
Even the new Elantra doesn’t, it doesn’t even have USB charge port. If you do want rear AC vents, Honda would gladly sell you an Accord. The compact sedan suits a person who mostly drives the car himself or with another passenger, but if you do have a family of 4 or 5 that constantly traveling with you, why don’t you just spend a few thousand dollars to get an accord or any other Mid-sized Sedan?
@@blackwhirlwind1245 This civic is the same size as my old Accord lol
It's cost cutting. Same reason why they only have 1 map pocket in the back of the seat. Midsized sedan's give you 2 map pockets and rear air vents.
Liking it a lot, love those air vents! But that "Honda nose" (now on Accord, this, and Fit/Jazz) is a bit of a problem...
Honda nose reminds me of the forehead from 1000 lb sisters lol.
Yeah. Completely agree. That's basically the only part of the car I can't agree with from a design standpoint.
It got swarmed by bees.
Way better inside & out than the 10th gen. Power for the turbo model is what the 10th gen hatchback sport and upper trims had.
For 7 minutes, I swore this was an Accord
He said Accord so much you think it was one.
Chill
You nailed the issue with the “nose” a defined line or changing the vertical portion of the nose to either black or should I even dare say chrome would’ve looked better in my opinion..
Goes for the front and rear
Black would be great. I’m sure that’ll come in 2023…
The 1992 - 1993 Accord SE were the first Hondas with BOSE audio, and the only ones equipped with them until now :)
fun fact, honda sent bose an accord so they could tune the sound based on how the sound bounced around the interior and leather
I really like the way you describe vehicles in all its dynamics. I also like how you're not bias and or loyal to any brand!
Well done. I always enjoy your reviews.
Bwahahahaha you haven’t been watching very long: or you’ve been asleep
I received my 2022 Ex model last Wednesday September 1 2021 with 4 miles on it I drove it up north and back I now have over 730 miles on it and I haven’t had it a week yet it drives great I was on vacation I go back to work this week
The Civic has always been a mini Accord, and there's nothing wrong with that. That front bumper is gorgeous.
The 2023 Accord EX-L/TOURING is gonna be AMAZING!!! Can't wait till next Fall!
It will look just like the Civic.
Is it on CZcams?
First Civic I ever considered, seems nice for young folks like me ( I’m 25) but of course I didn’t buy it, went for a new Hilux with the 2.8L turbo diesel, lovely I know
I have a Nissan Sentra 2007 with 307,000 miles a 1994 Toyota Corolla with 507,000 miles & a 2019 with 85,000 miles. My Corolla is a stick shift I was going to get a Camry 2020 to Compliment my Corolla but I think I am going to get a 2023 Honda 6 or 7 spd Honda Civic Hatchback ... Nihon(s) done Well, love Reliability, MPG & Last for a very long Time 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Bought one in black on black. Looks and rides very nice!
Is it just me or did the 10th gen civic have like a lot more storage 😅
So someone at honda got in a mazda 3 and said let’s do this interior but you know… honda.
I love this car and plan on getting a Touring Hatchback after having an EX 10th-Generation Hatchback in the past. This having more Accord-like styling works well for me, but I'm really hoping the infotainment issues are just a temporary thing. The previous generation's infotainment (outside of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto) was one of the worst aspects of the interior. Glad to hear the noise has been reduced and and that you found the well-roundedness of the car to still be present. Another excellent review!
Perfect blend of modern and 90's vibe. Spot on Honda!
This is the best looking civic in about 21 years
B L A N D
After the last gen Civic bland is the way to go .....the last Civic was not a pretty one at all
Nice looking Civic that has matured.
Worst looking Civic, best looking Accord.
They over-reacted. Harshly.
@@cpMetis I'm not a sedan person but no sedan that sells over 300,000 units a year nowadays is overrated. Sedans don't sell like their suv counterparts so yea the Civic is kind of a big deal for Honda.
I like the design of previous gen, this reminds me of the older Chevy Cruze, I find the design on the boring side. I get the Accord influence but the Accord looks better. I need to see it in person to draw my conclusion. Honda kills me with those turn signal lights , make them LED!
Lol. I had a 2011 Chevy Cruze RS. It was pretty nice, but the engine and trans was a lemon. My worst of 6 GM cars never again! The Civic Sport Hatchback is everythingvI want, unless I can springvfor the Sport Touring Hatchback.
And if you're talkingbabout the rear turn signals, LasFit has LED Turn Signal and Reverse Lights that should be brighter. Their LED interior and trunk lights are really bright, and their weather mats are great and cheaper thsn Weather Tech.
@@jjacob25101 I have never owned a Chevy in my whole life. I love the new 2022 Silverado ZR2 they finally gave it a nice interior
Just bought one! Touring trim! Peral white! Absoloutely in love with it!
You able to get it at MSRP?
@Ian Kaczer yup! Took alot off dealer shopping but finally found one that sold not a cent over msrp! I love this car. I think it might be a " classic" . Time will tell.
Nice I’ve been calling around. Not every dealership participated in price hikes
There will be a 6MT on the hatchback!! :)
sounds like that's the one to get. wonder if it'll be available in higher trims or do you have to get the base trim
I find it sorta weird you point out that when you first start the car, the infotainment system is slow.
When you turn your phone on, it doesn't perform 100% fast until you let it load everything. Same thing with the infotainment system.
He always does that. Complains about very unimportant stuff.
Wow 🤩 i love the new cabin design
That new camera....wow. I'm going to start using Redline video's to show off my OLED. All we need is HDR! Great vid, and the new Civic is what Honda needed. Last one was hideous. Type R should be actually fit to look at now. Never buying CVT again though
Im so excited for the hatch back.
Impressive and conservative! Would have liked to seen the front a little higher off the ground for real world speed bump situations!
You right: no lumbar support no buying
Agreed
@@2004cyrus cut or uncut?
@@luism8612 cut
@@2004cyrus 😋
OK, but can we stan that he was listening to Saweetie & City Girls!? IKTR!
Last Honda to have Bose was the 1993 Accord SE I believe. And the 10th gen Civic Touring offered heated rear seats sedan and hatch. This generation does not.
I really like your reviews but this felt like you were trying to find things to hate on for the heck of it. However, I do agree with you on one thing, that dolphin head grill needs to be updated ASAP.
It always feels like car company software departments are just one under payed person trying their hardest to make a good infotainment system
But they finally paid their audio guy to contract Bose. Thank God for that.
Under"paid"?
@@00_UU BOSE = Buy Other Sound Equipment. They're not exactly known for quality.
@@s4nder86 pfff… Bose sounds excellent compared to stock or cheap “premium audio” systems Honda had been previously using. I would upgrade any audio system, but modern cars have too much integrated junk. With dynamat all around doors my current car with Bose sounds almost perfect. I know better stock audio is out there - they use ELS Studio by Panasonic in Acura and it is better than Bose. I had ELS in my previous RDX, it sounded great.
Rear lights should be all LED, especially on the Touring.
Oh yeah???
No I like incandescent lights better.. LEDs are annoyingly bright
@@aayonce4 oh yeah???????
@@whitemailprivilege2830 yeahhh
@@aayonce4 oh
Honda had Bose systems in the 89 and 93 Accord special edition trims. Also, the last couple years of the 92-97 Civics that were specifically EX coupes got an Acoustic Research branded stereo. Very rare!
Hands down the best car at that price.
Beautiful car! Looks finally better I think! Sad that they couldn’t at least put a 200hp engine in it with a 8 speed automatic! They way it was accelerating looks like you would get ran over on the freeway
It's an economy car... And it has some of the highest power numbers in it's class...
@@SpinachLeaf then we need to get rid of the CVT, and still at 200hp! Test drove it, the pick up is HORRIBLE! Regardless of class, be different and unique and increase the HP Honda
@@mrlv4525 maybe get an accord 2.0t, civic si, forte gt, jetta gli, golf gti, a base camry, etc. You have many options around this price point the civic is not just the sole option
I got the 2021 Elantra limited last week, and I am regretting my decision. I thought this Civic was like another 4-5 months away. This Civic looks miles better, especially the interior, on the Elantra the materials are extremely cheap.
It’s crazy because I am currently cross shopping both of these cars.. and I thought the Elantra had a more exciting interior. What things feel cheap about the Elantra if you don’t mind me asking? The interior looks more interesting at a glance.
Other reviewers commented that the new 'bee-hive' dashboard on that Civic would be a bitch to clean! Now that the Accord and Civic are built on the same platform, they are both the same car.
I have a 2019 version touring that’s fully loaded. AWD and also heated seats in the back. Honda premium sound. So I think the Gen 10 was the best of the touring.
Crv?
Im eager to see how the new hatch does over the next few years. While I love my car and adore the look of the dual centre exhausts, the bigger trunk in the upper trims (sport and touring models had 22.6 cubes in the current hatch compared to reported 24.5 in the new), improved audio and being made in the States could be big differentiators. My car is made in the UK and has more squeaks and rattles than I'd expect from a Honda.
sofyan,do not ever brake start a cvt car.Dude,u have been in this business for a long time,so u should already know the cvt have already been programmed from the get go.Juz directly floor it,u vl get the correct result O.o
What is brake torque?
This is a torque converter based CVT, it won't do any damage
@@SSC3034 its not about damage, for some reason,if u brake start a cvt ,its just slower to get pickup.I have tried on my civic and corolla.Its just programmed that way.
I prefer the 10th gen aggressive sportier look over this 11th gen vanilla family sedan design. I don’t hate it. But I don’t love it, either. I hate the interior knobs and the mesh vents. Not a fan of the screen placement either.
Looks Ike I’ll be waiting five or six years to see if Honda returns to the popular 10th gen sportier design philosophy.
Just got one. I've bought 2 2019 sport trim package for my kids and was so impressed I had to get one.
I love my new Honda Ridgeline. I especially love the reliability compared to all the competition and the gas mileage.
I’m looking at the new Ridgeline since all I’ve owned are sedans and muscle cars. But you kind of threw a curveball by mentioning it in a civic video
@@samanthajames9773 you should put in a pre-order for a 2022 Ford Maverick. A lot cheaper than the Ridgeline.
@@braetonwilson4296 You suggest a ford over a Honda? A new model to boot over a line up thats been out a while? That Maverick will still be getting bugs worked out 3 years later. Never the first year of a model release.
I saw this car review on Ratiti rides a week ago Im waiting on the hacth back🤔
Needs more space for Pop Tarts
Ratis rides doesn’t compare to this guy who isn’t cheesy like that used car salesman.
You didn’t see a drive. You saw an overview. Same as the other channels. There are embargoes for these guys to deal with.
@@2004cyrus good enough for us especially when he was actually behind the wheel DRIVING !!
Love that you were listening to my type lmaooo😜😜😜
I have the previous generation in rally red, and people tell me the front looks like an exotic car.
Finally... civic changed to accord, accord changed to civic 👏👏👏👏
Imagine a wagon version of this🤔
That would be so sweet
@12:20 no rear seat air vents in the US spec model, but they're offered in the Japanese market.
Interior looks really classy
Great review, thank you! Will finally be upgrading my 07 Si for this generation Si :)
You will have to wait a long time for that. Honda stopped making the Si, but might bring it back in 2023.
I always watch your cars review, awesome.
I just bought mine!!! The infotainment has definitely been upgraded because it is very fast and I have had no problems yet
Do you mind sharing the price and trim you paid?
A very thorough review. I’m in the UK, Civics don’t sell that well in the UK, which is a shame. I’d be surprised if Honda even import the sedan version and as for the engines, I think we might get the 1.5 turbo, but this country will be looking for hybrids at least, if not fully electric. Looking forward to seeing the hatch. Most of the competition in Europe is so different here. The competition is really VW Golf, Astra, Ford Focus, Peugeot, then Audi A3, Mercedes Benz A class and BMW 1 series. The Corolla doesn’t sell that well either, with the Mazda 3 being the only similar rivals that you have in the states.
Such a shame it has a CVT
Yep. That’s why I’ll never buy one. I’d sooner drive an 80’s manual transmission until I die than pay actual money for a cvt.
They need to hurry up and come out with that ILX replacement, there was already little reason to buy an ILX over the 10th gen Civic but this 11th gen makes it completely pointless.
Maybe but the 8speed dct and the 2.4L in the ILX is way more fun to drive than this boring 1.5 with a cvt
@@braveheart9658 idk, it’s not really that much faster than this and a lot of reviews say the ILX is less sporty than the Civic
Im surprised because the outgoing civic touring had rear heated seats, however it looks like they probably subbed it out for the rear usb ports, which is probably the better choice for most people.
It is amazing how much technology is packed in new vehicles compare to 30 years ago but yet they cannot build newer vehicles that will outlast cars built 30 years ago… this is a reflection how low standard people are putting up with auto manufacturers. They are all wired with so many computers and inferior Turbo engines and GDI engines which will carbon up in no time.
Truly exciting to see the Civic with all of these nice updates. I just can’t imagine what theyre doing to do with the Acura ILX. Will they kill it? Rename it? Rumors the RSX is coming back.
I wish they did more than just take a civic hatchback and slap an Integra nameplate on it.
Sorry, but even boring Jetta looks better than the new Civic
Yes !!
Exterior maybe the interior the civic is way ahead of it
finally the display is bright and can be seen in sunlight
This is a better review than the article that Car and Driver released on this car this morning.