"If you hire 50/50 male and female engineers then the women are less qualified" - Jordan Peterson
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JP: let’s think of this mathematically
Her: I prefer to keep this on emotion
Perfectly said tactics of the left
That is literally all they have going for them is emotional manipulative rhetoric. They barely know what they are talking about. Much less any real world things
Dr. J knows his subject so well that he gets to pop the balloons 🎈 of all the bratty obnoxious kids with impunity.
@Aventicity men are not going into lesbian basket weaving. Men are not going into lesbian history studies, just like women in mass don't go into engineering.
You don't want too force them into something they don't desire, that's slavery.
What’s the problem with emotion? Just curious. We’re humans, not robots.
"So you're saying don't even try?"
I'm saying hire based on qualifications, not gender.
Bang on.
YES!
How dare you ;-)
It also goes on the other side, do this for nurses and obviously male nurses would on average be less qualified, cause the pool is so much smaller
@@maxirozas8660 if you hire based on gender, Id agree the male nurses would be less qualified. Like if you hired male nurses just to fill the wuota
JP: I like pancakes
Someone: So you're saying you hate waffles?
Most accurate comparison yet. Well done.
@@caseyhardiman6847 it would've been more accurate if he said "so you're saying you want ban waffles"
Welcome to twitter my man
😂😂
😂😂😂👌🏻
“So you’re saying”
No - it’s mathematically impossible
numbers dont lie, but they're not everything, right? but still, they are SOMETHING, and in some cases, a significant factor. so she completely missed his point. poor interviewer
"So you're saying" - Every fucking time he's being interviewed
🤣🤣🤣🤣man for real!
Yeah... 🤦♂️ Why don't they just ask if they have no clue what he's saying.
For real. They like womansplaining so much😂
So your saying don’t do interviews with women
Hshah but he's damn good at answering that
What i learned from JP is: Don't let others summerise your words into a conclusion they desperately want to extract from you.
THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 fucking exactly dude….JP is an absolute legend, I love him!
I hate it when people try to paraphrase what I said grrrrrr
This comment boils it down so perfectly! Thank you, whoever you are! 👏👏
Yeah it’s called attacking a straw man. Common tactic to save face when you’ve clearly lost the argument.
This means people want to press JP into a certain box of a person? Like I already knew society was judgemental but I really wouldn't want to engage in a discussion with a person who has or wants to have a certain picture about me and wants to prove it to themselves even when it's not true. It's sad that everything is tied to emotion nowadays.
“So you’re saying don’t even try.”
Jordan: Okay Cathy, where are you? You can come out now 🧐
This woman was possessed by the spirit of Cathy
I thought it WAS Cathy lol, coming for a rematch
I laughed so hard 🤣 Thanks!
@@edbunkers4516 f
Him: *makes a well articulated and critically thought rebuttal
Her: "so you're sexist?"
Bro! That’s 🤩
I mean a well articulated argument doesn’t mean it’s not sexist,
Not saying he’s sexist just pointing it out
Edit:
Not pointing out that he’s sexist pointing out your mistake
@@Jykesonville alright I’m thinking your name is literal because you literally argued for my point there
She's literally an interviewer what do you expect? 🤦🏽♀️
That's their maximum brain capacity, sometimes you gotta respect their low IQ and move on
"Trees exist."
"So you're saying the ocean isn't worth saving?"
Perfect! Literally LOL! 🤣🤣🤣
Spot on!!! +rep (for comedy)
Brooooo hahahaha
Love it!! Spot on… 👍🏻
I would argue that the pool of women engineers is more qualified than the men since they have to work so much harder than the men to even get a seat at the table. And even when they do get a seat at the table they get fucked anyway since they are less likely to get paid the same as men and get promoted.
JP: "The sky is blue"
Her: "So you're saying Hitler was right?"
Yes
I mean he kinda? Was, Hitler feared the position of power that the zionists would ultimately go on to have, but his method of delaying the inevitatable (or so to speak) was messed up. But what's more is that Hitler didn't actually kill the reportedly six million Jews, his army did. He convinced other people to do it for him, making him no different than let's say the government. He might personally have killed a few of them, I don't know for sure, but if you were to compare it to the amounts of wars that the government had initiated, then it's but a drop in the ocean in comparison. Not to mention that WWIII is also currently looking to be a thing, and apparently the government of course had something to do with that, too.
the fuck are this nazis up here are trying to say
@@Aberrantly
The major difference you forget is that without Hitler, we don’t get Nazi Germany as it was.
Just because you don’t physically do the killing doesn’t make your crimes lessor. More than this, we should judge exterminating a race far more malicious and evil than being a part of a war.
😆
"So you're saying don't even try"
Jordan: "So you're saying you haven't even tried to listen what I just said"
Everyone one should be hired or "given a chance" based on their skills, experience and education. I'm a woman I would want to be hired because I earned it not because I am women.
ye that what the guy is saying but you guys keep your ego in control
Finally intelligent woman.
You are a rare gem
As a woman in STEM, I totally agree with you. Instead of forcing company to hire more women, we should encourage more women to get into STEM
I would marry you if I was still single. However, you will never know from the mgmt you were hired because of your gender, looks or qualifications or to fill a diversity quota.
"So you're saying" Yup, she isn't even listening.
Exactly 🤣... She must have lived in a cave
Kathy Newman flashbacks right there. Had to pull the straw man argument after being crushed with facts.
No she is listening, but what she's doing is she's going to an extreme rather than entertaining an alternative solution.
She got infected by the Newman disease lol
@@ThomasFoolery8 Right?? My god did they not learn from the last one?
JP: speaks clearly, states facts.
Blonde: so you're saying all women should die
Good one 👍 😆😅🤣😂👍🤝👌🖖✌
Yep, these leftists are literally mentally deranged
Hahahahayahhhaaaaa
@Danny Armstrong what's that have to do anything. Your showing how little you know about how business works
😂😂😂
“So you’re saying…”
God I thought we were fucking past this….
So true! My dad was a rocket scientist & was told to hire female chemical engineers. There were about 6 graduating female seniors nationwide.
"So you're saying..." Here we go again
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm having flashbacks. At least the video stopped after the first one.
They just know they have a job which is to smear the guy. They don’t know exactly how they’re going to do it until he’s there with them
#TheReturnOfCathyPeterson
I never use the word "triggered" but that slightly triggered me
“I don’t understand this male I’ll just imply he is wrong” Sun Tzu art of Feminist
Actually that saying is by Susan Tzu, you're welcome
If you don't understand this male- TRY HARDER.
Sun Tzu & the art of intelligence
You do realize Sun Tzu is about only 11 sentences. I don't think you would agree with Tzu's tactics. I mean he threatened to slaughter women because they would not do what he asked.
@@aaronlemaster7139 Well, it's one of the most undeserved hyped books of all time, but what's wrong with slaughtering women in specific if they dont comply? Do you think he would have been any nicer to men, or do you believe that women are special in regards to military brutality?
@@mario97br Ah... a control freak. Ain't that special!
As a an woman and an engineer, he’s not wrong. There is significantly less women in specific engineering fields than men. My graduating class had less than 10% women graduating. The lady reporter probably thought his answer was misogynistic 🤦🏻♀️.
Because he expresses himself wrongly. Fewer female engineers in the world doesn't mean female engineers are less qualified. He can better say: you just wouldn't find that many female engineers to fill every company. Period.
@@sanniranhis logic makes absolutely sense ,he is saying that they would be less qualified women engineers if they force the 50% gender hire in engineers simple because there are enough women engineers out there so the quality would decrease automatically,so he is not saying anything wrong ,he is saying something that is common sense .
@@sanniran so if there are 90 men and 10 women or in top 10 there are only 9 men and 1 women but then if we hire 50 50 then in top 10 will enter 5 women 5 men even tho 4 other men were more qualified
@@sanniranYou still didn't get what he's saying. Everyone including you admit that there are way lesser women engineers than men. So to satisfy 50:50 gender representation in engineering fields, we must exclude some quality engineers from the side of men engineers and includes some non professional women engineers.
@@sanniran when did he said female engineers are less qualified?he said as there are less number of female engineers so the number of QUALIFIED WOMEN ENGINEERS IS LESS.there is difference between WOMEN ENGINEERS ARE LESS QUALIFIED AND NUMBER OF QUALIFIED WOMEN ENGINEERS IS LESS.
It seems anytime someone begins a sentence with “so, you’re saying” the rest that follows completely misses the point.
"So you're saying don't even try"
Me: "Wow" *pause video, catch breath* "holy shit"
Honestly. Let's hit the gym bro.
Yup
@@nunyabizness4306 For me it was “here we go again” with a headache-inducing eye roll.
This reminds me of a certain interview on Channel 4
Yes😎
PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video, a video where i am begging for money on Twitter, a walking video... Also a patreon
😂 he always get’s these “so you’re saying…” replies. He never said don’t even try. He’s saying what is proposed isn’t logical.
So your saying they seek him out 😄
@Despize Perform You are not understanding his point. His point is that if you hire 50/50 you will be hiring less qualified people and your quality of work (in this case of engineers) will go down. This is what happens when there is “equality of outcome” and you don’t let equality of opportunity play out.
@Despize Perform Also implied speech isn’t speech… it’s just your interpretation… which in this case is incorrect. Again he never said to not to try and hire 50/50. He’s saying forcing it in every situation won’t bring what a lot people think. It will have worse outcomes in most cases.
@Despize Perform Huh? You are making absolutely no sense now. Re think and rewrite that response. Reformulate it to an actual question or try backing up your original statement. Or are you just trying to say “hey I was wrong” without actually saying you were wrong.
@Despize Perform I think what he’s trying to say is that if you hire the most qualified people and get to 50/50 then great. But trying (or forcing) to get to 50/50 just because that’s what’s considered “equality” would put a lot of people out of business and then there’s no hiring, no job for the people who just got hired. If a company can hire 50/50 or 75% one way or another or 100% one way or another then it’s them (hopefully) doing that because they want the most qualified people in their business.
“So you’re saying I’m a terrible listener”
Why does everyone alway be saying “so you’re saying” to him 😭
Haha because he uses 3 paragraphs to explain something that really requires only one sentence!😂
It's like a lawyer who sends boxes of boxes of useless information for discovery knowing that the more they can confuse you, the more likely they'll win the argument.
"So you're saying...."
Every feminist ever!
I was thinking the exact same thing, every bad and uneducated interviewer does this lol
*interviewer adds their f'd up illogical and nonsensical interpretation
He just mansplained it lady! Apparently that's not simple enough. She only hears what her smooth brain let's her hear.
I know right? "So you're saying" is the biggest most obvious tell of the straw man fallacy. Lol
The only way for a feminist to win an argument is to put words in the oppositions mouth and play off her own self made accusations.
"So you're saying..."
Another one of those interviews.
Flashbacks
She'd fit well with the USSR, who just threw the new guy a welder and to get on the job without any training whatsoever. Giving no damn about the quality.
Let me tell you, that didn't bode well for the T-34 during WW2. Only 7% of them were ever built to high quality, corners were cut to meet demand and by extension performance suffered; and the German's we're destroying 5 Soviet tanks for every 3 they lost.
Quantity does not, and never had a Quality of its own. Especially when your high death tolls (Cause Russian Tank Aces are very Rare) and shitty logistics can't even keep up with the large production of a low quality T-34 made on the cheap than a satisfactory quality one would have actually cost (which would have been the same as the Sherman).
I came here for this comment 😂
Wtf lmfao what is wrong with this phrase that is just an attempt to interpret what someone just said
Standard fkn phrase lmao it’s more about what comes after that phrase
I know an electrical contractor who was a union shop. The Union graduated minority apprentices according to diversity quotas. Because the quota was more important than proficiency, several minority students who were unqualified were graduated, then sent to union shops to work. Those unqualified apprentices were quickly let go. Because of the frequency of unqualified minority apprentices, it created a bias among local union shops. It became a local bias that minorities aren’t good electricians.
😂😂 the look of dad annoyance on his face when she said "so ur saying don't even try??" lolllll I love this man, the more I listen to him the more I respect him
Think of it mathematically? SHE DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT AT ALL .
They don't think. It's always feel with women
@@duckmcgee8979 don't speak for all of us. I happen to agree whole heartedly with JP. Hiring should be based solely on qualifications and fit for the company, never on identity politics. Having said that, I get humor and your comment did make me laugh 😅
Well, math is not their strong suit.
JP needs to get flash cards made up by people like female engineers showing the mathematical explanation.
@@dbrjejdk3847 NAWALT phallicy detected
JP: “I like bread.”
Interviewer: “So what you’re saying is we need to resume late 19th century style lynchings?”
🤣🤣🤣 I'm black and this got me hollering
@@Swaggmire215 😂😂😂I'm hollering and this got me black
@@sfuikm lol.... 🙂
What does lynching even mean. I hate it when I can’t even understand the joke.
@@HassanAhmed-rf9xr in short, lynching is any violent extrajudicial action taken by a group of people within a society against one or more individuals. It’s most commonly associated with late 1800s America, where massive crowds of predominantly white people would gather to torture and/or kill African Americans who had “stepped out of line” in some way.
But it is not necessarily limited to white-on-black violence. Cases where BLM and ANTIFA rioters have ganged up on individuals could be considered lynching.
The infamous “so you’re saying” translated literally to… I have no logical rebuttal and I have no clue what I am doing.
I have no idea how JP is able to keep a level head when he's talking to these people. The man has the patience of a saint. God bless him.
"so you're saying..."
Translation: You're right and I have no argument. So I'll misrepresent yours and shame you in the process because fEeLliNgS
His argument is that any 50 female engineers cannot possibly be as qualified as any 50 male engineers. He claimed it was based on the pool size, but that's just bs.
If the top 50 women must be less qualified than the bottom 50 men, there's only one possible reason... whats between their legs.
@@mimcduffee86 sorry about your inability to calculate.
@@mimcduffee86 that's not what he said. He made it clear that this wasn't what he was saying when he said 50/50 might work for one company, but not on a massive scale. The curve for female engineering talent should match that of the males, but is composed of less data. If you take from the best 50/50, you run out of females that can compete with the remaining best males. Learn to read.
"So you're saying don't even try?"
"No, I'm saying that based on that question you're definitely not qualified to become an engineer"
Winner
😂
There it is. There it is.
@@tom79013 proves his point right away. He should have said. This is the exact reason we dont do that.
Boom!! Roasted
Where can I watch the whole interview
Jordan always speaks straight forward and gives a to the point answer. He is so intelligent that people can't even understand and end up saying ' you are saying that' ' you are saying this'
Him: let’s look at the facts
Her: I’d much rather emotionally manipulate
Yep. Standard operating procedure.
That's some LGBTQ style logic😂
@@highlife4403 This has *nothing* to do with LGBTQIA+ people... It has to do wiiaaAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAH sorry I couldn't even say all that with a straight face 😂 You're kinda right lol
Welcome to Mainstream Media.
“So you’re saying don’t even try”
Ironic, since you clearly didn’t try to listen
Easy-answer demands always seem to come from people who want their targets to be politicians and do all the thinking for them.
@@consumablecorner150 here's your easy answer. Get more women to get degrees in Stem fields. Then it balances and you can hire equal amounts of men and women without losing quality
@@thomasmanning2939 That's only if you believe against science that men and women are identical in every other way. Very irrational.
@@thomasmanning2939 more women are already in universities they are just choosing to not go into STEM fields he talks about the differences in jobs and education paths the majority of men and women seek in another video
@@koolstuff6931 right exactly and that's a good thing. Men and women should go to college if they are able. But when we have a lack of female scientists or engineers it's because there aren't many or as many women majoring in that field. I'm going to school for engineering RN but the amount of female engineering students is so low I could count it on one hand
We've tried very aggressively, for women and for blacks. The empirical science proved itself to be legitimate as usual. Intelligence is innate and different between groups.
"so you're saying..."
Wait! I've seen this one before!
"So you're saying" I've watched several of these with peterson and different women and they ALL use this phrase. Some of the men too
It a liberal thing to want to set narrative to their agenda not to facts
My response would be ,
Don't put words in my mouth,
I'm only responsible for what I'm saying, not for what you understand.
If one is always speaking in a way that trys very hard to hide what is actually intended, then that individual will believe that everyone speaking to them also behaves in the same manner.
@@PrairieWolf62 I like that. That's a great response.
Leftist speak
He literally just said “if everyone did this, there going come a point where male engineers will get fucked just cus they’re male even when being more qualified”
And she just auto-piloted her way into a stupid question…
I understand "you can try it, but you gonna end fucking everything up since you can't have as many qualified women engineers as males"
@@horacio373 therefore don't try surely is the logical conclusion if that is the outcome.
@@gareth2736 don’t try isn’t the logical outcome… do internships, pay scholarships, make engineering “sexy” for females to study, and become good at. If you’re lacking in a pool of people figure out a way to increase that pool of people in a sensible way without loss of quality.
@@danielandree3947 why? If there is a lack of female engineers because of bias in the recruitment process that is bad. If there is a lack of female engineers because women are on average more attracted to other jobs why invest so much in changing that as long as there are enough engineers in total?
@@gareth2736 you are right, but his not saying "don't try" you can try whatever you want, that's freedom, but logic thinking give us a glance of the problems we could face if we put ideology as the priority
That's such an engineer's response
“Anything that goes up, eventually goes down, gravity brings you down, it’s basic physics”
“…So you’re saying nothing can fly?”
People have really forgotten how to think.
"So you're saying, don't even try"
"No, no"... how do you even get that from what I said?
Because he implied it was a bad thing to hire 50/50. What was the conclusion you reached?
@@Kefka2010 Hire not by what keep in pants but by how competent you are for this position.
@@crank1985 So don't try to hire 50/50 is what he was saying?
No, you can try. But the 50/50 criterion should come secondary. Prime focus should be on quality. And if you are the 1 company out of 500, that reaches the goal, then consider yourself lucky. But you shouldnt be disappointed, if it doesnt work out.
It's like that scene from dumb and dumber... "so you're saying there's a chance!" Lol
"Don't even try" response is fully qualified for a facepalm.
He should have said, yes try If you want a ton of unqualified engineers.. as long as it makes people feel good it doesn’t matter if your bridge collapses.
@@OlderG0ds thats pretty good 👍
omg this woman, I've never felt my blood boil as much as it is now 💀
Its just going to make men hate and resent women more for getting the same job even though they are not qualified (both because its unfair and because it will make working with them harder if they are not competent.)
_"So you're saying..."_
Me: **Breathe in**
Me: *_Boi._*
Oh shit. Here we go again
Please tell me this is a reference to bizarre's video before the Eminem Killshot track? 🤣🤣
Why is every single journalists go to always : "So you're saying..."
How did they even manage to become journalists?
Because modern journalism is about obtaining the story you want, not the truth.
Because of 50/50
Well she’s a woman so probably the selection pool is just that small
Sex sells, but then they replaced sex with gender and well...
@@klasta69 👏
I am saying,
Hire people on the basis of their competence.
Not on the basis of genitals.
He made it so clear and she still couldn’t see it through her insistent stereotyping.
JP: "the pool of engineers are male dominant, lets talk mathematically...(gives numbers and data)"
Her: "so you're saying dont even try"
She just proven his point.
Jordan: "See I told you 50/50 is bad"
Lol yeh haha
I’d say you can try just don’t expect perfection.
@@Vindictator1972 Nor proficiency.
The Cathy Newman interview has now become the benchmark for interviewing JP.
So you're saying the Cathy Newman interview was better..
@@terencejay8845 so you're saying....
So you're saying kill all Ompa Lumpas
@@jimreimers4213 those Oompas are gonna take over one day, we gotta do something about it now!!! 🤣🤣🤣
What’s really strange about that is how poorly it worked out for Newman, but it seems to be copied frequently.
As an Engineer I approve of this message 👏
Reporter - so you don't think we should try this 50/50
JP in mind- what about bricklayer
JP is legend
As a woman, I am feeling pressured by these kinds of people to take on certain jobs and characteristics to "beat the patriarchy."
I am told that by choosing more female dominant professions I am allowing men to rule what I can or can't do.
I don't want to be an engineer, I don't want to be a CEO, I don't want to be a politician. Let those that want to and are qualified to be those (male or female). Stop saying I'm oppressed because men generally want to be in those kinds of professions and leave me to my own interests.
Woah! You're a woman? And you don't want to be an Engineer?
I can't get over how out of touch you are!
I bet you insist on being referred to as 'she' too?
Stop being sensible. It's 2022.
@@Dan-qg1bq I know. I'm sorry, I am trying to do better
@@starlightequestrian6729 lol
@@owsie1800 funny thing is that the more years pass, the more sensitive we society are becoming Soo ur comment makes no sense
"So you're saying..."
Did this reporter not learn anything from the Cathy Newman interview?
I'm wondering if the clip is from previous to that interview. No idea tho
How to act like Cathy Newman?
“oh, so you’re saying I’m fat and ugly?”
“So you’re saying don’t even try”
Didn’t say that nope. Did you hear a single damn word??
"Dont even try" famous last words when building a bridge with unqualified engineers.
This comment is gold
This was a very well engineered comment lmao!
lol😬
A person who's actually educated and a person who's educated to act educated. There's a big difference between these two people.
I'm still not sure which one I am most days.
@@MickMcGarnackle I feel as long as we keep on questioning and learning without being ignorant will lead us to the right path. No worries dude.
@@carlj4046 modern day philosophy right here. Like Socrates said the only true wisdom comes from knowing you know nothing, essentially always ask and be prepared to learn
@@more-reasons6655 "The only thing I know is that I know nothing"
@@joundii3100 To be more precise, you don't know everything. Have some confidence, but not too much.
"So you are saying..."
"Umm nooo!"
The sheer frustration lol
If there the same number of male and female engineers in the workforce, it can be 50/50
She pretty much didn’t listen to anything he said and came to her on conclusion based off of feelings
That's because she's a woman.😂😂😂
And that's why there aren't as many female engineers
Yep,the lefts tactics, pure Utopian emotion
Didn't he do the same thing? She's talking about one guy doing it for one company "as much as he could" and this dude goes on a tangent about wide scale 50/50 across the country. I don't know what was said before this point but based on this short dude went off on a tangent and implied you shouldn't do it and then said he didn't imply it.
@@Kefka2010 Ironic that you don't realize that it's the feminists going off the tangent proposing that all companies should hire based 50/50. There wouldn't be any problem at all if they just stopped at one company which is able to do that. The whole point of argument was that if the one particular company is able to do it then all the other companies must do it too.
"So you are saying" is the dumbest reaction of all. I can't stand it.
It depends, some people will genuinely try to clarify what you are saying in their own words so that they can understand and process the information. In fact it is great way to follow a challenging discussion.
I’m not sure what her intentions are but she demonstrated one of two things. She either could not even slightly comprehend what he was talking about, or she was trying to perpetuate a political agenda by manipulating Petersons words.
She’s just doing her job as requested! (Smearing Jordan)
So you are saying I cant use my favourite🥰 term to destroy anyone in debate with me. Ok thanks
When you make a workforce 50-50, you're going to have a failed society where 25 % or less of people will form long lasting relationships that have any children. ✝️
Equality of opportunity,
Which we already have, allows the best to rise to the top!
Equality of Outcome,
Lowers standards and integrity In order to pander to a pre- determined, Virtue Signalling Outcome!
JP- "Sometimes catastrophe breeds progress"
Interviewer-"So youre saying Russia should in fact invade Ukraine"?
The interviewer should work for CNN headlines. "JORDAN PETERSON SUPPORTS USSR"
JP - "I love the moon, it's beautiful"
Interviewer - "so you're saying, we should destroy the sun"
This is a brainy comment
@@binghamfitz-henry8463 no it is not... Without the sun you could not see the moon
@@slick11nick1 "So you're saying don't even try?"
@@redstar151 ah that's funny. 😂😂
The moment you start trying to not discriminate by making sure you select an equal amount of males/females is the moment you start being sexist because the fact is you chose gender over qualifications.
JP - if I have 2 apples and collect 2 more apples I now have 4 apples.
Interviewer - so you're saying you have 5 apples. 😌
I’m an engineer and I’ve seen this problem first hand. Hiring to meet a race or gender quota will result in not meeting a qualification quota.
Or it might not. It's really up to the applicants and their qualifications. You may very well end up hiring every female engineer who applies, if they're the ones qualified.
@@Waishwhw72i19sjx7 Statistically that's unlikely just like JP said, possible on small scale but impossible on large scale
Why don’t you impose a quota on nurses and teachers?
@@yuanruichen2564 Don't need to because most nurses are female so there's nothing to fix ;)
@@Waishwhw72i19sjx7 the problem that JP is getting at is that they're throwing out the "if they're the ones qualified" part. they claim that they're qualified based on race and gender.
Apparently being "woke" means, "Im not very smart, so I must create an alternate universe where narcissm is the highest ideal."
Omg you just said it!
Omg you just said it!
Omg you just said it!
JP: breaks down the whole argument so that it makes sense
Interviewer: so why not 50/50?
Managers don't even try hiring more women.
“So you’re saying…” is such an insult
“So you’re saying…”
God not again
Why is it so hard for so many to understand that hiring based on race and gender is racist and sexist...choosing which race and sex doesn't change this fact.
Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, and other anti Lefties is what the world needs. 😂
They don’t listen to what he says they just disagree because they want to believe he is wrong , but he’s right. Hire the right person for the job period.
So you're saying women should be jobless?
@@samsoonkh6806 Yesn’t
@@samsoonkh6806 if they arent the best for the job then yeah, dont hire them. Man or Woman
There it is.
I'm a machinist. Lots of unqualified men, but
there are no woman in the trade. So...
You can’t educate stupid- he just states facts
Jordan peterson is a gift to mankind.
Why don't they put the link to the full video in the description?
What I understand from JP is that do not discriminate men who are very much well qualified for the jobs just to satisfy your own narcissistic behavior, disguising it as "equality".
Well said
@Jose Hernandez while I would say that JP clearly doesn't hate women but many of his fans appear to, likely because they are reactionary, right-wing incels looking for a father figure.
@@gareth2736 Imagine actually trying to argue using phrases like "incels" or "looking for father figures"... were you trying to make a point or something?
@@warbwashington5626 yes
@@warbwashington5626 JP himself has said that is why his rules of life has struck a chord with some young men.
"So you're saying don't even try?"
"No, just you."
It's arithmetically impossible.
Engineering tends to involve a more evolved math: such as variables including learning curves and a growing candidate pool.
He's saying hire based on qualifications not sex race sexuality or anything else it will always hurt the company
"so you're saying" is the international que of someone who is going to twist your words.
"So what you're trying to say"
Is the best way to twist what someone is saying and their intentions
Same as the Cathy Newman interview, lol
His assumption is that the only thing that matter to business performance is 'qualification'. That's too far from reality. Personal traces, willingness to grow and to give to others, attention to companies needs, attention and communication with clients, and plenty of other factors influence results. And even if in the short term there were some loss to performance, as a business owner I'd rather try (and I am trying) to have as much variety of human beings as possible.
It's hilarious how they think they can match with JP😂😂
“Engineering school should be more accessible to women!”
Engineering schools: “Agreed. We’re kind of short on students. Any women who want to study engineering at our university?”
Women:
Exactly. Not trying to discount the women who are great engineers. Also not trying to force a certain demographic into becoming what they don't want to be.
Pretty much all the technical stuff is full of "we support women" with even scholarships just for them. But the more equal the society, the less women pursue a tech study... they all go into medicine teacher sociology psychology kind of jobs.
But this is due to the socialization of what we expect from men and women. Maybe if we didnt have such hard gender roles then people would be choosing different careers
they rather dance on tiktok and get famous nowadays
Women: "yes."
Men - "You're too pretty to be an engineer."
I, and thousands of other women have been run out of engineering because men think like this dumbo, Peterson. He makes zero sense. An engineer is an engineer, whether or not they are a woman or a man. If they ARE engineers, then ALL of them qualified because they are engineers. They aren't hiring people who aren't engineers. They are hiring engineers which means they have to be qualified.
His "logic" is non-existent. He is crazy.
Jordan "good morning" this lady "so you're saying goodbye" 😂
😂
The Hobbit first scene comes to my mind
JP: "good morning"
Interviewer: "so you're saying afternoons aren't good?"
Every. God. Damn. Fuxking. Time.
Just hire the best for the job. No matter the sex
He's saying 'hire the best'.
The math JP is describing: you want 20 engineers and get 40 applicants, 30 of which are one gender and 10 are the other gender. To achieve 50:50 ratio you would have to employ every applicant of the latter gender and only the best of the former. This would mean that you would likely employ less-skilled engineers because your selection method didn’t account for aptitude.
I left the genders unnamed above because it would be true regardless of the vocation or gender. If you’re choosing to 50:50 split on gender and get fewer men applying, you’d have to employ all the male applicants even if they were less qualified than the women.
They are doing this right in the American special forces
Well you would then have to force consistency and at the expense of the company or profits and even more take any profession like engineering well a hair dresser would need the same standards but forcing men
Yep this is exactly what they’ve been doing in LA county sheriffs dept. 88% men, 12% women in workforce.
50 jobs come up for sergeant and 150 men and 18 women apply - all 18 women will get hired no matter what their qualifications are. The men, only the top 25 get selected. Yes they will leave the other spots vacant until next round. When in reality it should be 6 women hired (12%) and rest men.
Avg age male Sgt - 45 yrs old with 20 yrs on
Avg female Sgt - 32, with 6 yrs experience
I love Jordan’s alternative take “so we need to hire 50/50 for plumbers to then, yeah. Waste management. Landscape. Construction. Where’s the equal hiring there?”
Good point! Another hole in his theory!
Man I trust the male fire fighters
Go ahead if you can