5 intros that got me confused
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2018
- Sometimes when you're learning a new song it just doesn't click immediately. In this video I'm showing 5 intros that did that to me, and also I'm explaining how to handle these situations.
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Hi, my name is Paul Davids! I am a guitar player, teacher, producer, and overall music enthusiast from the Netherlands! I try to inspire people from all over the world with my videos, here on CZcams.
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Paul Davids: hears a cool intro riff
Song: kicks in
Paul Davids: *confused in Dutch*
"Hè?"
“Huuhhh?”
- Paul Davids
🤣
He says hè which is the Dutch version of huh.
best quote ever lmao
In Germany we also always say "Hää"
Huuuhhhh? Metal Gear? Psycho Mantis? Youre that ninja.
When you say "acoustic" it sounds like "echo-stick" which is totally what I'm calling my acoustic guitars from now on!
I mean it ain’t exactly wrong
@@ernestogarcia3193 It's perfect. lol
Ian Mora my ex wife used to call my acoustics “tacoustic” never new why
LMAO I’m gonna start saying it like that just to mess with people.
Pulse sounds like "pills"
5 intros that got me confused
Me: All Dream Theatre Songs
Jordan from bucket Head.
early Agoraphobic Nosebleed
All five of their songs
Pull me Under! You got this.
The drum intro of Led Zeppelin's "Rock and Roll" is a tough classic too.
yes I agree!!!
When you realise that the drums start on 3-and, just like Johnny B Goode or Blue Suede Shoes, it suddenly makes sense.
I came here to write this :D
Or the whole intro to Kashmir. Once you get hang of it it's fine, but it's really confusing at first because of odd timing
Not the intro but black dog in general
Congrats on 900k, brother! 🤘🏻 Really enjoyed how clearly you broke down these tricky rhythms
Beyond The Guitar Nice seeing you here, great job on that red dead cover by the way!
i love you so much 😁
"This is an exaggeration of real life"
*snaps finger*
*Acoustic guitar appears*
Cute pfp.
That James Taylor track is what I like to call hiding 4/4, which is more difficult than playing in any "odd' time signature. Love it.
Here's my list:
Beatles(again) - Everybody's got something to hide( except for me and my monkey)
Deep Purple - No one came
Jimi Hendrix - All along the watchtower
Though now I know how they go they'd mess with my mind when I was a kid. Cheers!
Thank god I’m not alone with Watchtower, still gets me to this day and I blame Mitch Mitchell
Now that you mention No one came I think demon's eye also has a weird start
"All Along The Watch Tower" sounds normal to me.
Dave Grohl plays the guitar thinking like a drummer so he easily messes with offbeats
Steve Y I liked your comment so I thumbed up but have no clue if it’s correct 👍🏻
@@gdfggggg a lot of the Foo Fighters guitar riffs are short staccato 16th notes. With the Pretender and Everlong being best examples. Learn to fly is a very different exception thou
@@gdfggggg He explained it in czcams.com/video/ixo-MQ0u6SA/video.html
Advantages of being a drummer. 😎
@@gdfggggg He used to be Nirvanas drummer so
The only guitar videos that I can watch from start to finish without losing interest! Thanks Paul ! Great channel.
This guy is awesome. Does a really good job at shedding light on some really confusing things once you get past the beginner stage of playing.
4:21 YES!!! This is so weirdly satisfying! I heard it that way too in the beginning but couldn't force myself to hear it "wrong" again! Thank you
King of pain always gave me that feeling when the drums start, although it was a bit simpler to figure out
Hi Paul. Just wanted to send you the message that your channel is probably the most awesome I've ever seen on CZcams. I watched one of your videos today for the first time and couldn't stop watching 'till now. Keep the excellent work. Regards from Brazil
I think you have taken your musical understanding and theory way further than anybody else,you are in my opinion a Professor of the Guitar !
"Only Us" by Peter Gabriel and "Mother stands for comfort" by Kate Bush are to me by far the most ambiguous songs that I have ever heard.
Other examples are "I'm free" by the Who, "Sex on fire" by Kings of Leon, "The happening" by the Supremes, "Go your own way" by Fleetwood Mac, "I'll never fall in love again" by Bobbie Gentry and "Memories" by Earth & Fire.
Ozzy Osbourne - No more tears.
Drives me crazy!
Same here. 😵
@dogenator I mean the bass intro. And when the drums kicks in it changes the melody.
almost 30 years and I still don't get that bass intro
Its the best fucking song ever
Broooo I finally understand it but it took me so long! It has the first two higher notes be part of a previous measure and the one falls on the first low bass note
Wow. When you put the metronome over The Prodigy that blew my mind. What an awesome bass line.
YASSSSS! I've always loved the beginning of Invaders Must Die and how they force your perception to change of the intro lick. It's super cool.
Lol! Love that Beatles song but always wondered the same thing. Thanks for helping me make sense of it!
Beetlebum by Blur. Still blows my mindhole trying to tap my foot on the “one”.
The only thing throwing me off is how much I enjoy you and your videos.
And also all these intros and many others.
You doing a great work, i enjoy every second in all your videos...
Please keep doing this!!!
Congratulations for the 900.000!
bit late but ok. he passed 900 subs years ago man
The intro that I played wrong was Friday I'm in Love - The Cure.
I was playing it right... but doing stupid counting lol.
This was a GREAT video! There must be dozens of tunes like this, where you really have to work ti figure it out, but I've never seen it addressed before. Thanks!
I love this video hahah. It's just funny that both Invaders Must Die and The Pretender I've heard enough and know the groove so well that I haven't been able to un-hear it until I really had to think about it with your examples! Fun video! Also super high quality.
I think your trained timing/counting is so ingrained in you that it has taken over the feel/play by ear part of you that the original artists had :)
Much though Paul Davids plays riffs with great accuracy, as Jerry says, he has no musical intuition. This is typical of a trained musician who can't function without a metronome and a score. Personally, I always prefer a human interpretation to a note for note robotic reproduction.
@@johndillon2426 you missed the entire point of the video. Hearing certain notes without rhythmic context as being the downbeat when it isn’t has nothing to do with lacking “musical intuition.” That’s ridiculous. There’s nothing wrong with being a trained musician used to working with a click and/or written score. Do you think feel can’t exist when a click track is being used?
the prodigy bassline is a super weird audio illusion where the same pattern sounds drastically different depending on where in the beat it starts. super interesting.
I know it's a bit off-topic and this video isn't the newest, but I just found this channel the other day and it's almost 2am right now and this video is both very educational and very relaxing. So I just wanna say a half-asleep thank you for your videos :) been binge watching all day
Your videos productions are getting better and more creative I like it. Ita good to see your treating it like an art more and more, to many people it's just sit in front of a camera and talk, not that theres anything wrong with that, but nice to see you doing more and more with it. Its appreciated, also the video topic is very good.
Funky timing is usually a disruption in how you perceive it should be. There is often two timings being used.
Best channel on CZcams hands Down!!!
yes!
This guy is like an artistic reflection of music which I do believe he is not from world
He is the Matti Hapooja of guitar, and I love it
Check out Rick Beato. He's quite good too.
Follow u both cheers .thanks all
Audio illusions, you can't hear it right and suddenly it clicks and you can't unhear it. The Kinks -You really got me and Feeder- just a day get me every time,without fail. Great videos btw, thumbs up for the DAWs
I really like how the guitar is display with tab in the music notation. That is very appreciated.
"Hold the Line" by Toto. Every time I think I got it nailed down, I listen to it again and I am confused as I was the next time.
I see what you mean! So the groove is in 12/8; hopefully you can hear the triples on each main beat. The drum crack at the beginning is "big beat" 4. From that point, the tricky thing is that the piano changes chords (from the 2nd to the 3rd chord) on the third eighth of big beat three of measures 1, 3, 5 and so on. Because that chord is played on that "off beat" as well as on the 3 eighth notes of beat 4 that come directly after, the listener hears a grouping of four eighths, which definitely obscures the original triple feel.
To make it simpler, the main riff of the song that goes over the drum pattern is two triples and then three duples (adding to 12). You can hear it in the guitar riff of the song. If you sing that guitar riff along to the piano intro, you will see how it matches up.
I really love how subjective these things are - for example, I'm don't find The Pretender to be confusing. Then there might be some where it's the other way around.
Other honrable mentions for the list:
Zep - Rock'n'Roll (everyone was at some point confused by that intro)
Kings of Leon - Sex on Fire (also quite a classic "ah there's the 1"-moment by now)
Bad Religion - Sorrow (would have never expected that from this band and maybe it's just me)
System of a Down - Science
Metallica - Fight Fire with Fire (not just the intro, all the parts with the main riff mess with my head)
Pink Floyd - High Hopes (that bell)
Tool - AEnima (this one does it twice - first the breathing sound implies a beat, then the guitar kicks in and it's different. And then the drums come in and change the feel again)
Zep - Agree. Good Choice.
Kings of Leon - Also a good choice.
SOAD, I only partially agree with you in a sense. It is strange because it does actually start on 1, and it is a simple 4/4. modern metal wants us to make that high note land on 4 and pull you into the strumming pattern hitting on 1. So if you let your brain work to hard, you will get mixed up!
Metallica doesn't count, because they always use odd time signatures! ;)
Pink Floyd - Agree again. Wanting that bell to be the downbeat, it is almost hard to hear it not as the beat before the vocals kick in.
Tool, I think this is probably one of the tamest Tool intros out there. This one is more straightforward, where the breathing, the guitar, the drums, they are all ON the downbeat. Hearing it in 3/4 becomes clear once the drums kick in, but I don't think the breathing or the guitar really take you "off track" in any way like some of the others do.
Good list!
I thought you weretlkin about the platters and though what the hell is he talking about.
Tool - Jambi is also in the list %)
Fight Fire with Fire fucks me over big time. For serious.
Yeah, it's very subjective. I think it has a lot to do with how you were first exposed to the song. I have later realized that I have felt a lot of Metallica's faster songs incorrectly (I originally thought the snare is playing on the strong beats when it's actually playing on the weaker beats), but because I first heard these songs when I was a kid and that's how I felt the rhythm back then, it is really difficult to unlearn my old ways. I'm pretty sure if I had just heard those songs for the first time, my perception would be quite different because my musical abilities have obviously improved since I was a kid.
As a kid, "Tico Tico" was a song that I heard differently (it starts with a three 16th note pickup bar, but I originally heard the first note as the first beat - don't know how that's even possible, but maybe back then I had no idea of how samba rhythms work, and I first heard the song when I was like five years old in an old Donald Duck cartoon that we used to watch a lot), and for a long time I had the incorrect rhythm of the melody in my head. I actually only recently learned the correct rhythm when I had a dance band gig as a bassist. But it's funny how the song suddenly became way different - it's like a whole another song.
I’m only new to your channel and I am impressed by all your videos mate. Amazing stuff!
I love videos on the subject of time , time is everything in music. Great vid!
Intro to Tool - Jambi. Really cool, throwing me off! Good video, thanks!
I love songs like this, it's sad when you realize the tempo and you miss hearing that different thing :'(
The pretender never tricked me tho 🤔
I love how I always discover great songs from your videos 😍
That was awesome, Paul! More these, mate!
Can't wait for 1 million video
Daniel Recchia what's he gonna do? Face reveal (beard off)?
Giving away something? New guitar, righting an album in one day... Lotta things to think and do
Totally not the style of this channel, but the The Haunted's Blood Rust always messes with me, in a good way :)
"You really got me" from the Kinks gives me that same feeling when the drums starts and when vocal stars also. Makes me crazy!
7:46 I need an Echo Stick... Love you man, keep up the good work though. 😉
These people who write these phrases with really odd timings... I often ask myself... is it because they are brilliant musicians?... or rubbish?... Is it deliberate?... or accidental?... do they even realise they have done it?
Agreed!!!!
with dream theater or any progressive band, sure, it's on purpose, some of the others might be accidental....
If it is well executed then genius.
Rarely the music I make in my head is 4/4.
Having an eighth note pickup is pretty standard, dream theater is made up of berklee grads that are basically all prodigies on their instruments, I don't listen to James Taylor so you could be right on that one, dave grohl thinks like a drummer and often plays things most guitarists wouldn't think to, but he's also an amazing musician who not only founded ff, but also wrote and played everything heard on their first album as well as produced it.
@@devonc99 they're not grads, not sure about Mangini, but Petrucci, Myung as Portnoy only went to Berklee for 1 semester
Take it Easy from the Eagles is another example
Jorge Queral they were lying to you.
they weren’t taking it easy.
Ah, good one. Ya, that one always threw me.
Jorge Queral you would think of it as not starting on the 1 beat or as adding an extra 1/8 note before starting 1st verse. The way I played it was imagining it not starting on the 1, I think it was like starting on the “uh” beat of 4
seriously as a drummer I had to listen to it a million times to get that damn fill correct. I can't count it, but I can nail it every time now lol
I came here to see if this guy got "take it easy" or not
I'm so happy this video exists. There are so many songs I've known all my life whose intros confuse me in this way (including Invaders Must Die). Others which do are My Recovery Injection and As Dust Dances, both by Biffy Clyro, and My Party by Kings of Leon.
Awesome video, mate! A the three songs that fool me over and over again were there. 1st, 2nd and last. The only one that was missing for me was in the air tonight by Phil Collins. I used to think the first sound of that drum machine was the 8th of the previous beat. You know the snares there were on 1 and two. The rudiment makes more sense to me that way. And now that I've gotten over it I see Phil wasn't being all mysterious with his timing before the drum fill of our lives. Great video! Keep em coming.
These are just things techniques to make arrangements more interesting. If a melody does something you expect it to do all of the time it’s boring. The same with rhythms. This is just being applied to larger arrangements. It’s just like story structure. 1. Hobbit leaves the shire, 2 overwhelmed wants to return home 3 decides to continue based on his principles, shows his character. It’s the same with music. It would be stupid if Bilbo just went “derr sure thing I’ll help, no problem!” and there was no conflict. That’s what these arrangements that sort of jar your senses are doing. They’re jarring you but also deepening the character of the message and impact of the melody and heart of the core rhythm.
The reason why the intro from drive my car was different was because the melody starts at the upbeat of the song... Without the drum beat we mostly confuse it with the downbeat.
Is that why highway to hell confuses me?
@@IGarrettI yep
love this guy. great series.
Kudos for such a short and concise asking to subscribe to your channel. Usually people announce it as if it's the main thing they want to say in the video.
Lenny Kravitz - Are you gonna go my way.
Eeeeeevery time.
Death - Flattening of emotions intro riff, well, and drums, and, well, vocal line.
And there was that Weezer song ...
You need to do a Part 2 for this and please explain what happens in "No Such Thing" by John Mayer. Also really looking forward to a continuation of your Neon Video
Yes to all of that. The drum intro to Zep's "Rock 'n Roll" too. Oh, and damn, that Les Paul is beeyoootiful
omg, ok well I have to subscribe because you're the only one I've ever seen put a reference to The Room in a video. Well played, you have excellent taste.
The riff from Led Zeppelin's 'Black dog' still trows mee off, I have no clue how to count with Bonzo's drums between the 2 main riffs. Maybe for another video? ;-)
You can't really count most of those breaks because the pulse is somewhat nebulous between the riffs. If you listen carefully you can hear Bonham click his sticks a 16th before each riff. This was the cue for the band to enter.
You can approximately count those 2 big fills he does by making it a measure of 5
You can.... After the quiet click of the drum stick which is on beat two....the drum pick ups and line START on the and of Two.
So: AND THREE AND FOUR AND/ ONE (Kick), TWO (Snare) (beat three) FOUR (Kick) and so on. Continue in this way and the riff will end on beat ONE.
You can also continue this count through the second section...even though a crash happens before one...it will all work out back to one.
(Stick click) AND THREE AND FOUR AND / ONE TWO FOUR TWO FOUR TWO AND FOUR / ONE!
TRY IT! Stays in 4/4...Just the Kick and snare get displaced.
I think u might have the coolest voice/accent ever
Hey FUCK you buddy, you haven't even heard MY voice or accent. You should really think before you comment, otherwise you're gonna hurt lots of feelings.
Actually I must apologise, you're probably a really cool person, I'd like to buy you chicken fried rice to make it up
@Rubber Soul lol this dude was so random and sounded weird I cracked up😂😂😂
imperfect beats,chords,notes are awesome too.not just beautiful well executed controlled beats,notes,chords,riffs.
Great Vid! I always have the 'wrong-accent-vibe' with the intro from Tool - Aenema! When the drums kick in, I realize how cool the beat actually is..... Gets me Every. Single. Time
Mate you are opening my mind wide open... I am even changing my study routine hahahaha! Thanks!
You didn't buy a 7-string to play that Dream Theater intro? How could you?
Just kidding. Great video, as always (and The Mirror was one of the first songs that got me into Dream Theater. It felt like they play every possible beat over that riff)
Gotta find the pills.
But seriously, all these videos are great. Fascinating, informative, well-produced. Love 'em.
Great video,very intresting. Most of these can boil down to strict time writing vs writing what they felt. It makes for some confusing switches in songs.
The Beetles intro is a 9/8 with (2+2+2+3) on the first bar.
@O 'MuireadhaighHell yeah!
André Lousada, Conductor *BEATLES
Nope! Paul is right! Check this out www.beatlesebooks.com/drive-my-car and scroll down to "Song Structure and Style. Ringo should know, shouldn't he? Hope this helps...
Uh, hello? Back before every thing was recorded into a DAW, real musicians actually played LIVE. THUS , the timing is probably off and / or Paul just didn't care...
@@joepp379 I don't think you know how recording works
I tought you said strat instead of strap:/
Arda Öztürk same :) still a beautiful strap.
Your coice
I saw a girl with a strat on once
I thought you typed thought not tought but there we go :)
@@Endless_Skyway_Adventures I'm a fan of Stratting Young Lad
Great video Dave, I like your voice in your post production.
Hey Paul - if you haven't heard it already, Tarred and Feathered by Plini has a very interesting rhythm for the intro which is fun to learn the first few times!
Awesome video as usual.
I instantly thought of Karnivool, many of their intros are so misleading. Listen for example to Goliath, Umbra, but most of all to The Caudal Lure
Biffy Clyro - Bubbles and Royal Blood - Lights Out also does the wierd extra time intro thing. Still can't find the pulse for lights out!
Luke Mcfarlane Yes dude I was about to say that too even when you think you have it right it still throws you off every time
Bubbles is quite simple actually - the first note you hear is on a lift, it technically falls on a 4-and, and so the second note you hear is the 1. Does that make sense?
@@valdeb0b it wasn't difficult to work out, it's the other one I'm having issues with
Listen to Ready to Start by Arcade Fire, I love how that intro changes your perception of the same riff
The Mirror got me at first too, but I found it ultracool, specially because a few bars later the drums come back to the pattern that you initially thought that follows the guitar riff.
It's all very interesting! Two that come to mind from many are the intro of 'Take it Easy' - Eagles and.....Wood Pigeons Cooing..
Take a listen to English Eyes by Toto
Windowpane by Opeth.
Amazing Journey by The Who always screws me up. Moon's drumming is so crazy that you don't even notice you're feeling the beat wrong until halfway through the song when the riff finally starts on the beat.
Interesting and well explained video. Thanks!
First I was like, "oh, he has the same strap as me." Then he's like you want to win this strap? I'm like "no thanks."
Yeah but Drive My Car is on a planet all its own. Still can't un-hear the wrong one enough to feel the right one when listening to the original. I'm so glad it messes you up too! :-) I think good ol Geoff Emerick might have been a little wacky with his razor when he spliced in a take from when Ringo was a little high and they now get it as close as they can when live.
This Dream Theatre the mirror is beautiful.... As a drummer, it helped me a lot, to think a little more openminded...Lot of great things in that song. I recommend to all drummers...
Great Video... it happens to me every time I hear a new song and try to get ahead of what the artist wanted to do.
"Stellar" by Incubus. I still cannot grasp the correct rhythm to that song.
oh my lord, same.
just watch the live version
Ya know which song of theirs has a ridiculously weird rhythm in the beginning? Just A Phase. The acoustic intro throws me off so bad.
Good song choice. Think I might listen to a bit of incubus now. Cheers!!
the stellar riff at least starts on the 1 :D
Porcupine Tree - Sentimental. Really weird and beautiful.
Great song!
Jambi's intro always gets me. I can never correctly anticipate where that first bass drum hit will land. But then it does and I'm alright again.
Love it when a song start like that ! This little moment when you're like "Uh?" and then you realise you just got tricked is so cool haha. There's also this song : Transmission by Zedd, same kind of thing i started moving my head to the beat, but i was completely off
Where is All Along The Watchtower? ;)
Grampasso Films starts on the and of 3.
Yes!
I agree ... that one has probably confused more people than any other.
OMG yes.
Let the good times roll-The Cars. Same issue.
great job paul!! cheers marc
You belong on television my friend. You have a great presence and delivery. Whether you're explaining music, physics, or just videos of people doing dumb stuff, I'd watch it.
The intro to Kickstart My Heart always drives me batshit crazy. I kept hearing DUUU-NU-NUN-DUN-D-D-DUN-D-D-DUN-D-DUUU-NU-NUN-DUN-D-D-DUN-D-D-DUN instead of D-D-D-DUUU-NU-NUN in the beginning...
I hope i'm not the only one who gets confused by the intro to Gigantic by Pixies
Great vid! I remember myself being fascinated by Dream Theater's intro of "The Mirror", it felt really cool.
The same issue I always have listening to an old PlayStation game named "Forsaken" with the piece of music called "Condemned" by Stephen Root and Dominic Glynn. This should be here on YT.
I gotta say, after viewing several videos of you (from the good ol' USA), I think I finally am starting to like that European sense of humor. Just keep doing what you do!
This happens to me everytime I listen to Invisible kid, from Metallica.
Saaaaaameee
Fran Gil Zanón who willfully listens to anything on that album?
@@TheThejoseph i personally love the entire album... to each their own...
St. Anger is definitely confusing, that's for sure!
@@TheThejoseph Sometimes it does feel good
When i actually thought u were giving away a strat 😂
Listening to the Prodigy song misnotated with a beat makes it sound more like disco. I laughed when you named #3.
Thank You - Paul - Invaders must Die - great song and now I know why :D I watched the video to late to sing into the giveaway lottery, but now I know what strap I want to have and buy in some future - Thank you very much again! Hope to see you in Rotterdam! :D