You might've missed the Angular Renaissance...
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2024
- Angular got some great momentum going. In 2022 and 2023 plenty of exciting new features and improvements were released - for example, Standalone Components, initial support for Signals, better server-side rendering, a new control-flow syntax and much more!
But not everyone benefitted from these new features yet...
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One of things I love abut Angular is that you learn once and apply to other projects 👍. Easy to switch projects. You do not need to learn additional packages for every day tasks such as forms, async handling,routing, dependency injection. This is because projects use same. So you spend your time in more important things such as business logic.
Especially mixing with Angular Material that's absolutely amazing.
when you update your udemy angular course with angular 17?
If you want to make good money and have a stable career, learn Angular and Java/Spring Boot or C#/Net - You won't regret it.
In your knowledge, will C#/NET be enough, or do you need to add Angular or React?
Signals are out of developer preview as of v17.
With the tagged release 17.0.0-next.8 they were marked as stable. Rxjs-interopt features are still in Developer Preview but pretty much recommended for use. @-control-flow is in preview as well, but also already recommended for performance improvements
In the real world there is a cost to upgrading to later versions. The numbers might be misleading as more stable products might be in a CI/CD cycle that runs npm install on every build causing a download of the version.
In my case, the flagship product my company sells still use Angular 7. It's not that we don't want to upgrade it over to the latest LTS version, but it has so many components and third party dependencies that even upgrade 1 version above breaks the entire project. (Heck, a production build with 10GB RAM assigned usually takes at least an hour to finish.) And as an IT company with constant development tasks from existing and new customers, we simply do not have the luxury to have our developers halt on their development tasks and spend a week or two to figure out if/how this project can be upgraded.
Before this product was shaping up, the prior product we had was built using AngularJS. As of right now there are still several customers using this version of our product and therefore we're still maintaining this old version for however long they are planning on using it.
I started with Angular. It was overly complicated for me at the time, but when I got better with JS and checked out React a year later, it was very easy to learn in comparison
Damn signal inputs are insanely cool
Eagerly waiting for your update to Angular course on udemy.
it has already been updated
It would be great to get another SPA (Vue, React, Angular, etc) comparison like you've done in the past. I saw the last one done about 3 years old. If you have a more recent one, can you provide the link? Great content and have purchased Max's course in Angular and React, which I have really helped me a lot coming from a backend world. I would like to try Vue as front end as I use Spring Boot as my backend.
Hi captain.
Are you going to update the angular course?
He will, just by adding a new space in the description.
Great video, as was the one you just put out before this about react becoming weird.
I've ha a really great experience with NestJs and Angular. I don't feel like this combo gets enough attention. Would love to see your take. :)
same.. this is an underrated stack.
I think I’d agree. I like Nest but it is basically because there is no serious alternative in backend Node land. The DI is good but lags miles behind DI frameworks from other languages, not in the least because Js does not have proper interfaces
Go with Angular and you won't regret it.
Agreed
worth it to learn angular? or maybe vue? or svelte which is better
Well I like it
But I see that a lot of companies are switching to react. New ones don’t want to start with Angular. They prefer more flexible technologies.
Now I an thinking to switch either to React or Vue
Already with Angular for last 7 years.
@@xnine1748 Definitely worth learning Angular as its gaining momentum, packed with rich set of features and most importantly it has batteries included.
Hello! As someone who is divided between learning Angular or React, which one would you recommend considering your "State of... 2024" videos for both frameworks?
Depending on where you plan to work, choose accordingly. If Angular is more popular and offers more job opportunities in your country or where you intend to work, then go with Angular.
Bro learn js dom manipulation deeply you wont find that hard to learn both
Not actively looking for a job atm, but in need to define a tech stack at my current job for web app development.
@@pologg1
What technologies are currently being used at your job?
@@angularpy we have one app with React but an external developer is in charge of maintenance. The new apps are still in discovery phase, so there is still some time to define the stack.
7:28 As someone who develops and maintains a full stack application, I would like to see a full video on this topic and it's current and future state.
Okay, you've covered React, Next.js and now Angular. Is there going to be a State of Flutter?
Flutter and Vue will become obsolete, just like what they did with Php
To be honest if angular sticks to client side only I'm likely to switch from react.
I'm primarily backend and don't care to learn nextjs primitives for things I can already do. I also don't really want frontend devs learning backend through nextjs as it's not really transferable whereas rails, laravel nestjs, spring are all sharing standardised backend structures.
Most devs work for other projects so there is no choice. Heck, I'm still working with AngularJS as it's integrated to a platform I'm using in a company and I don't see them moving to Angular as it would cost them too much.
I’m will study my first framework but is so difficult to decide, I’m thinking about Vue, is it a good framework to start?
Vue is better than React, easier to learn too, compared to Angular or React. Angular requires steeper learning curve, and React is just too messy and non-structured like spaghetti coding.
Maybe State of Vue now?
Great angular
Waiting similar video about VueJs
When you update your node course
We need nestjs with angular 17 tutorial sir
by "FullStack applications" you mean server components. you dont need specific meta-framework for REST Api. and server components is not exactly cost friendly because you need to render them on the server which cost money. Angular mainly used by enterprise and enterprise wants to offload its costs to user as much as possible. Angular is delivering what their user base wants, not chasing "new hot thing".
probably not enough video tutorials to learn the new versions
It is a “problem” that Java language has from the beginning. All these enterprise-kind frameworks should have backward compatibility at least for couple of major version releases back. It is because big companies and enterprises can’t easily rewrite everything with a newer version of a framework, since in current production application was invested millions and millions of dollars. But from the Java experience we can be sure that it’s doable :)
Market standard of the react developers are not predictable because each uses different techniques for routing, forms etc,..Angular is best because it is a framework and provide single standard.
Bit weird to want to use Angular for full stack end to end development. Almost everyone company will just have a separate back end, doesn't make much sense to even want to do that tbh
What about the other frameworks? Lit, for example?
Why we have this holly trinity: Angular, React and Vue?
Mr Max, has Udemy Course Angular has been updated ? @Academind
I've been waiting for this update as well, hope Max sees this and replies
To me all of this stuff with the front end frameworks is becoming madness and unsustainable. SPA + json apis is a lot of overhead when you actually think it about, and I believe a good chunk of apps really don’t need that approach . I got a project stuck in Angular 13 that I plan just rebuild to be SSR, the actual web ecosystem (which is actually pretty rich by itself) and HTMX. In my pet projects I have found these approach more sustainable, features as easily added and I am not worried about what fancy approach the x framework is coming up with to solve problems created…by the framework itself
Soon update udmey course with angular 17 new update bro..
Pls update your Angular Udemy course
A lot of companies (including google) still uses angular 1 💀
based on this video I think I'm glad I went for React first. If I find the time I'll learn Angular too but for nowo it seems like React is the better choice for me
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Kindly update your angular udemy course 1st, you create project over there angular 6, instead of using css you go with bootstrap that's okay but it also bootstrap version 3 but now current version in 5+ and Angular is 17, Instead changing course title to Angular 2024 keep it as Angular 2018, you may say you provided article for update for some new features,when we can google it. why need to pay for your course just to read article.
In other words - upgrade your projects to the latest version of Angular, LTS or not. Break them if you must. Lose your clients if need be.
Whatever it takes, so that the Angular dev team can have enough unpaid testers to weed out all bugs related to the latest features.
Nah bro angular requires a lot less boiler plate code than react. And lots of features are built-in no need to install external libraries for every little feature.
You should always keep following the road the Angular team is proposing. Otherwise you miss the benefits in faster development and better performance. So learning the old way is quit stupid and not needed. You create only more legacy code and in existing angular projects there are enough examples how to do it in the old way (otherwise buy an udemy course). An Angular course that starts from scratch in the Angular Renaissance way and side notes how people did in the past is much more useful to learn. My guess is that it from revenue point of view is not interesting to do, because of the amount of work to create such kind of course and best practices are not yet established.
NestJS?
Love it. I have two teams using NestJs and Angular and it's been awesome.
Man, upgrade to current version is not that easy. especially for enterprise client. Some client still uses Angular + AngularJS hybird system now a day......
They must not remove class-based component... or I'll leave Angular... don't like React function-based style...
As a senior software architect (I have 60+ devs), I won't say Standalone components is the right direction. The React / Svelte / Vue / AI / Fullstack trend on youtube is not reality of enterprise scale applications. Angular do it mostly the right way. It lacks a modern compiler to breach js/TS barrier that prevent it to become "dev friendly". But I think destroying what makes Angular the only SOLID web framework is a huge mistake.
Awesome, but I still won't be using Angular just yet. It needs more work for me
What doesn't need work?
@@joelpachappan9503 I don't know the answer to that but I do know that angular is not where I'd prefer it to be for me
Why such a negative vibe ? Angular has the potential to out number React any day.
Reactjs is the best !
Beginner?
Tell me you are a beginner without actually tolding me😂😂@@Tnargav
You mean the best when it comes to very messy, overblown frameworks left and right? I prefer Vue or Angular
Its Google, i wouldn't be surprised if the Angular team just deletes the older versions in a night operation 🥷