The 'Whiskey Before Breakfast' Cover D-18: Bob Minner, Chris Eldridge, Bryan Sutton and Kenny Smith

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Bluegrass greats Bob Minner, Chris Eldridge, Bryan Sutton, and Kenny Smith discuss and play the 1936 Martin D-18 that graced the cover of Norman Blake's seminal 'Whiskey Before Breakfast' album. They also talk about Blake's guitar playing (and collecting) and much more.
    Says Minner: "Through a series of unplanned events on my end, the 1936 D-18 that was featured on the front and back cover of Norman Blake’s 1976 album, 'Whiskey Before Breakfast,' came into my possession for a few weeks. The owner, Brent Hawley, has owned the guitar since late 1975 when he acquired it via Rob Griffin, a mutual friend of Brent and Norman. Brent wanted me to make a short video with the guitar before he started the selling process.
    "With such a historic instrument connected to Norman, it made sense to call up some friends - Bryan Sutton, Kenny Smith, and Chris Eldridge - to celebrate this guitar, the Whiskey Before Breakfast album, and just have a good time playing songs from it and talking shop."
    Filmed by Mike Luckett for the Fretboard Journal; special thanks to Denny Hemingson for help with the audio.
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    Note: Bob and Cameron Knowler will do a deep dive into the music and playing of Norman Blake at the 2023 Fretboard Summit in Chicago (Aug 24-26). Register here: fretboardsummi...

Komentáře • 139

  • @bhawley1000
    @bhawley1000 Před rokem +210

    I guess it's time for me to finally chime in. I'm Brent Hawley - the owner of the Whiskey D-18 for the last 48 years. I knew the day would eventually come when it was time to turn the guitar loose, give it some public exposure, and hope that it finds a good home. When Bob Minner learned that I had the guitar (through Jim Baggett), we had a long call, shared stories, and it was obvious that he would be a great person to help find it's next chapter in life. It was his idea to produce the video that you see here. What a treat to see these guys play it. Thank you Bob.
    As a couple of friends have commented here, since 1975 this guitar was an integral part of the Bluegrass scene in the Fort Collins area. I let all of my friends play it, pass it around, and drive that song with it. Bluegrass, swing, Americana, old jazz, yes this guitar and I learned together. We learned from our friends, our roommates, our idols, from the albums, cassettes, cd's, and now CZcams, festivals, and countless music parties. You players know what I'm talking about. I still play every morning with coffee, keeping my chops up.
    I have described this video to friends as "4 top pro pickers, 4 ugly guitars, D-18 heaven". There is something about ugly guitars. I've owned a near mint 1942 D-18 (a closet queen) and here's an important lesson that I learned - It's no fun to own an instrument that you're afraid to let your friends play.
    The reason that I'm letting go of it is that I have hearing issues that keep me from being able to appreciate it. Time for someone else to give it a good home, play the crap out of it, and let their friends play it. I think I've said what I intended to say. Great to talk with you CZcamsrs. Brent

    • @bhawley1000
      @bhawley1000 Před rokem +11

      One last thing - Huge thanks to Fretboard Journal for working with Bob and sponsoring this video!

    • @MeridithQueenOfSpades
      @MeridithQueenOfSpades Před rokem +5

      Amazing story! And yes indeed...this guitar found its home amongst these guitar gods lol.

    • @michaelmullins1290
      @michaelmullins1290 Před rokem +3

      Definitely an amazing story I'm glad I didn't miss.

    • @1coopjsn
      @1coopjsn Před rokem +4

      Beautiful story and keep the feelings through the fingers over coffee. All best wishes. We are all just temporary guardians of our most special things -- and we have to carry that with humility as you clearly demonstrate here.

    • @michaelmcgannon5588
      @michaelmcgannon5588 Před rokem +3

      Brent, You're a good man top to bottom. And a sincere keeper of the musical flame. What a pleasure it's been to know this story, and a good many of the characters involved. Good on you! Best Always, Mike

  • @michaelsnyder6922
    @michaelsnyder6922 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I was taken aback when I saw Bob. I swear we are twins. He got the talent and I didn’t.

  • @btgauthier
    @btgauthier Před rokem +35

    I love this guitar and sure will miss having the privilege of playing it occasionally! It belongs to my friend Brent Hawley who purchased it in 1975 through Norman’s and Brent’s mutual friend Rob Griffin ( renowned audio engineer ). The guitar has been on an incredible journey, from Norman’s album through it’s many years in Brent’s masterful hands as it became a staple of the Fort Collins, CO bluegrass music scene. It was stolen from Brent’s home in the ‘90s and recovered, mainly through the efforts of Willie McDonald of the Bluegrass Patriots, at the Las Vegas pawn shop of Pawn Stars fame. It made it’s way back home to Brent. It is one of a handful of vintage guitars that has been and will hopefully continue to be a part of flatpicking lore. This video is a treasure!

    • @als1023
      @als1023 Před rokem +2

      Thank you for posting !

  • @Razorbackchemist
    @Razorbackchemist Před 2 měsíci +2

    I don’t know how I haven’t found this video before today, but I’m glad I ran across it this morning.
    Thank you so much!

  • @stevec.1802
    @stevec.1802 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Norman was king of the crosspickers. Still inspirational to this day. A truly gifted musician. 🎧

  • @tonyorourke1459
    @tonyorourke1459 Před rokem +6

    I first heard Norman Blake in 1981. Up until then I was studying jazz guitar but became enchanted by his ''Blackberry Blossom'' LP. I learnt so much music from his recordings and to this day his ''Last Train From Poor Valley'' remains my favourite song. His rendition of''Fiddler's Dram/Whiskey Before Breakfast'' have become yardsticks for flat pickers the world over. Not to mention his stunning fiddle/cello duets with Nancy. He remains a massive influence on my music. His musical tentacles have reached out far and wide, I live in Australia.

    • @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
      @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Před 2 měsíci

      The fiddle and cello duets, sometimes with James Bryan on fiddle too, are some of the most beautiful recordings ever put out. I specifically search for those in bootlegs. They're the perfect blend of chamber music and old time fiddling

  • @RDFannin3
    @RDFannin3 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Re: Salt River: I like the way they don't play it stupid fast so you can enjoy the skill of each of these super pickers. Picked up a lotta supper ideas the next time my friends and I jam on this tune. "Whiskey before Breakfast" is a non-negotiable in my top 10 of flatpicking records.

  • @taylormorris_
    @taylormorris_ Před rokem +9

    Bryan Sutton reigns supreme. Effortless and classy breaks, always on time amd never leaves you wanting.

    • @wiamotto
      @wiamotto Před 8 měsíci

      Ultimately...Norman Blake reigns supreme...

    • @taylormorris_
      @taylormorris_ Před 8 měsíci

      @@wiamotto ah, subjective opinions are what makes music so enjoyable.

    • @AlwaysWorking2008
      @AlwaysWorking2008 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I beg to differ. Bryan always leaves me wanting.... more! :)

  • @SantaCruzOM
    @SantaCruzOM Před rokem +36

    You ever notice that some guitarists approach the fretboard in a way that makes it look like they’re barely getting to the note - they get there consistently but it almost has tension to it, like they may not complete the phrase. Then there’s Bryan Sutton. His playing looks effortless and fluid and 100% in the groove. It’s poetry. All wonderful players here though! Highly enjoyed this!

    • @8-tracktheater262
      @8-tracktheater262 Před rokem +4

      That is the suspended animation to the accents of the melody which Clarence White gifted to us.
      Thanks Clarence !

    • @G_Demolished
      @G_Demolished Před rokem +4

      And then there’s David Grier. He plays it as smoothly and in the pocket as Brian, but throws in 5 or 6 licks you never heard before that work perfectly over the song.
      While telling dad jokes.

    • @G_Demolished
      @G_Demolished Před rokem

      And then there’s David Grier. He plays it as smoothly and in the pocket as Brian, but throws in 5 or 6 licks you never heard before that work perfectly over the song.
      While telling dad jokes.

    • @bentonscrivener
      @bentonscrivener Před 11 měsíci +2

      The pros go down a rabbit hole, challenging themselves to get back on track at the right time after the run.

    • @bcummings2187
      @bcummings2187 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Jack Pearson is about as effortless as you can get ......everything is a Sunday drive for him.

  • @ClarenceJWTR
    @ClarenceJWTR Před rokem +10

    Thank God there are other guitar nerds as nerdy and deep about it as me!!!! I don't feel so alone hahaha!!!!

  • @madeirafonseca6383
    @madeirafonseca6383 Před rokem +3

    This video is what life SHOULD be all about. I really miss the simpler times.

    • @dougdavis8986
      @dougdavis8986 Před rokem

      Life can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be.

    • @joseph2832
      @joseph2832 Před rokem

      I used to believe that, but as I get older I don’t think that’s true.

  • @robertandrews792
    @robertandrews792 Před rokem +4

    What a great tribute to Norman Blake … done by the best pickers of our time … you’re all truly an inspiration … thank you 🤠

  • @Patriot-American
    @Patriot-American Před rokem +3

    What a joy this was to watch! Each of these folks are flatpick masters in their on rights but they really pay a sweet homage to Norman Blake. Norman is one of my all time favorites and I have always wished to have met him in person. I love his voice as much as I love his picking. Thanks so much for this awesome video. It sure put a smile on my face and a warm place in my heart. And to Chris's point on feeling like you've known or met Norman from listening to his music... spot on! Much thanks to Chris, Bob, Bryan and Kenny for the picking and conversation.

  • @alisterrae5822
    @alisterrae5822 Před rokem +7

    Sweet Lordy this is just bloody marvelous, thanks so much for organising this. Brilliant players and awesome guitars.

  • @srob102
    @srob102 Před rokem +2

    Wow Brent. What a wonderful story of love and musical expertise. Thx for sharing your guitar!

  • @mrasmrguitar
    @mrasmrguitar Před měsícem

    What a cool bunch of pickers sharing with us.. I started way too late but having fun now! getting coffee and heading out in my beautiful yard..( abuse my 000-15m lol)

  • @TheHHHR
    @TheHHHR Před rokem +4

    That was a great story about the guitar that was not on the album, but was literally "on the album" 😊. Such a great bunch of pickers paying homage to Norman and his guitars💔

  • @f5mando
    @f5mando Před rokem +1

    Wonderful video, this. Thanks so much to you all for this record of appreciation and love.

  • @johnsimoes2172
    @johnsimoes2172 Před rokem +2

    Amazing picking 4 very similar martins from golden age yet all have their own unique voice great video

  • @mattrwilkins
    @mattrwilkins Před rokem +3

    Four of the best all in the same place!

  • @SiggyMe
    @SiggyMe Před rokem +1

    guitars have history and stories. I like guitars that have a story and history. Afterall they are organic and their afterlife is musical life. This is a fantastic show with the stories and music the best! Remember those guys that are famous often they don't see themselves as others see them, they have their motives and we have ours.

  • @mrdogmoon
    @mrdogmoon Před rokem +1

    Really cool video and story thanks Chris, Bryan, Kenny, and Bob thank you for making this!

  • @glenguldbeckmusic3410
    @glenguldbeckmusic3410 Před rokem +2

    Thanks gentlemen!! That was wonderful...

  • @jfj794
    @jfj794 Před 9 měsíci +1

    All phenomenal, I’m partial to Kenny Smith, always have been.

  • @timmarcom5947
    @timmarcom5947 Před 5 měsíci

    I love this video, the players, the d-18’s their thoughts. A couple of the microphones didn’t pickup a particular guitar well enough to really hear their tone but all of this is fabulous. I’ve watched it over and over. Thanks for this video.

  • @alexbeard3703
    @alexbeard3703 Před rokem +2

    The funny thing listening to them talk about when they first heard Norman is that's how I felt when I first heard each one of them just a few years ago. This is coming from a man with no bluegrass background but it's through these guys that I've heard of Norman. Backwards I know. Incredible guitar of course but we'd take anything that will get these men in a room together!

  • @TheMrCompletely
    @TheMrCompletely Před rokem +2

    the art and the history of flatpicking are in good hands

  • @kinnjohn
    @kinnjohn Před rokem +1

    What a treat!

  • @markwandrey2937
    @markwandrey2937 Před rokem

    This is great. The D-18 is a legendary instrument. Don't forget however that a solo player with smaller scale talent can temporarily mesmerize a small crowd with a much less than a very valuable older guitar. The art is in the player - not the guitar. I have once possessed the great Blake albums among others from the guru flatpicking performers and let go to trade in shops. . . as well as several splendid flattops of various sizes and major names. Even a couple of fine hand built classical guitars. Flatpicking at home is addictive. I have never been able to let it go over unrevealed decades. Great to view the ongoing fascination during troubled times.

  • @batstube
    @batstube Před rokem +2

    Outstanding pickers all of 'em

  • @aaronhwarren
    @aaronhwarren Před rokem +9

    When is the book on Norman's guitars coming out??? I'd buy that in a heartbeat!

  • @chumdm3
    @chumdm3 Před rokem +3

    I’ve listened to that record and walking cane thousands of times. It’s amazing how that guitar’s tone is so distinct even in Bryan Suttons hands.

    • @davidbusen545
      @davidbusen545 Před rokem +1

      Truly amazing how a talented hand can make any guitar sound great and a finely crafted instrument can make even a beginner sound acceptable. Combine the two and the pairing becomes truly indescribable. Scrumptious! Thanks one and all for keeping it going.

  • @tchrist41
    @tchrist41 Před rokem

    This is the best thing I have seen in a long time.

  • @user-iy7eq7mg8q
    @user-iy7eq7mg8q Před 9 měsíci

    Outstanding. Thanks for sharing

  • @PhilGreely
    @PhilGreely Před rokem +6

    This video made my week, month year. Walking Cane was the first Norman song I ever heard. Captured me in those first few seconds. Fun stuff. Thank you!❤

  • @scotimotti
    @scotimotti Před 10 měsíci

    Very cool. What a great video, and a great comment thread.

  • @billcovert3473
    @billcovert3473 Před rokem

    Thanks for the journey. I too have that LP. He had some pretty good back up, Charlie Collins.

  • @ProfesserLuigi
    @ProfesserLuigi Před rokem +1

    I like how the picture of Norman Blake is just hanging out there in the back like he died and this is is wake or something, lol.

  • @jordangunit3078
    @jordangunit3078 Před rokem +1

    Pretty sure on Arkansas Traveler Chris Eldridge is playing his 1937 D28. That’s a monster guitar along with all of these 1930s D18s.

  • @TheoDahlemPickups
    @TheoDahlemPickups Před rokem +4

    Nice come together. Really enjoyable. Not sure if it's the mic placement,... Kenny sounds just like Kenny. His sig sound is big.

  • @michaelmullins1290
    @michaelmullins1290 Před rokem

    Im sure the guitar will end up in a good place. Ive never held a guitar of this status or near it. Just always listened to these master guitarist wear them out. Awesome video.

  • @scottmidler8603
    @scottmidler8603 Před rokem +1

    guitar nerd nirvana. thanks for this, fretboard journal!

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem +1

    From this video, the two 35' D18's seem to have the most presence and articulation but that may be due to mic placement, string selection, player technique etc..I have heard Bryan Sutton's and Kenny Smith's 35' D18's before and know they both are tone monsters.

  • @rosserclark8156
    @rosserclark8156 Před rokem

    This is so great!

  • @user-wj8my7kt8q
    @user-wj8my7kt8q Před rokem

    That guitar was a big part of our Fort Collins jam scene for many years. Sorry to see it go, but I hope it lands in a good place!

  • @chuckskarsaune3149
    @chuckskarsaune3149 Před rokem

    Fantastic.

  • @leifberglund941
    @leifberglund941 Před rokem

    Awesome ❤!!

  • @752brickie
    @752brickie Před 2 měsíci

    Two wrongs make a right !!! That was a great line !!!! Ha Ha ha !!!

  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 Před rokem

    Outstanding 👍👍🤩

  • @billdedrick1914
    @billdedrick1914 Před rokem +1

    It would be interesting to learn what strings were used on that famous 36' D18 for this video..Interesting at the end to hear the difference in tone/sound from the same guitar from four different players playing the same tune.

    • @fretboardjournal
      @fretboardjournal  Před rokem +3

      D'Addario Nickel Bronze 13s

    • @billdedrick1914
      @billdedrick1914 Před rokem +1

      @@fretboardjournal Very interesting.. What about strings used on the 35's of Bryan and Kenny?

    • @als1023
      @als1023 Před rokem +1

      @@fretboardjournal Thank you for posting !

  • @musicofanatic
    @musicofanatic Před rokem

    Wow! Very well done and presented! A very generous sharing of a great D-18. Next...the one Blake actually played on the record??

  • @TATEGREERBANJOVI
    @TATEGREERBANJOVI Před rokem

    So cool!!

  • @Zephyrwood
    @Zephyrwood Před rokem

    great jam

  • @micaqui46
    @micaqui46 Před rokem

    Merci!!!

  • @555Gear
    @555Gear Před 3 měsíci

    42:00

  • @tylervanvalkenburg7167

    Awesome

  • @danielalpin967
    @danielalpin967 Před rokem

    Unreal

  • @alfsmith4936
    @alfsmith4936 Před 6 dny

    Isn't it amazing how the same guitar sounds like a different guitar, depending who's playing it? Anyone know who uses what pick?..

  • @greekflatpicker
    @greekflatpicker Před rokem +1

    👏👏👏

  • @DLinberg
    @DLinberg Před měsícem

    There are Martin acoustics and then there's everything else

  • @ianb6814
    @ianb6814 Před rokem +1

    Kenny Smith is the only one who's lead really pops over everyone else, all are great though

  • @martymcpeak4748
    @martymcpeak4748 Před rokem

    now this is a pickin party! and these are the D18 Boyz lol

  • @user-fq1pi7br5k
    @user-fq1pi7br5k Před měsícem

    Kenny Smith is as smooth as silk! Beast!
    All of them a spectacular. Of course Sutton is Sutton. Spectacular…

  • @keithsyler3784
    @keithsyler3784 Před rokem

    So cool to see and hear this! Do I spy a couple of Teegarden Audio mics?

  • @robertharden4092
    @robertharden4092 Před rokem +1

    What ever happened to the only electric guitar the boss master owned? He only had it for a short while I was told it was a homemade with German tuners. Kind of wide neck played really well I guess . He only had it for about three four months I guess I’m not even sure. But I would know it if I seen it. It had gold pickups hollow body electric .Norman Blake only used it for trading I hear who knows? My father is gone only he and a few others know the story. I’m gonna go threw all the old albums and see if I can find a photo of a photo. Good luck to me if I locate it I will post the photo I have not seen it in twenty years the photo that is.

  • @ueswan
    @ueswan Před rokem +1

    38:28 👍

  • @geoffcline9593
    @geoffcline9593 Před rokem

    TASTY!!

  • @rogerd9150
    @rogerd9150 Před rokem +1

    Does anyone know if Norman Blake is still active... I mean still playing?

    • @leeblake3989
      @leeblake3989 Před rokem +5

      I am Norman's oldest son. Dad plays every day, sometimes for hours. But, he does not perform anymore.

  • @startreker8591
    @startreker8591 Před rokem

    How do they bang that cool tool❤…i should wear some worn out clothing y wear my abuelo’s hat

  • @John-wr6yo
    @John-wr6yo Před rokem

    Is this salt creek or double file and salt creek,and what does double file mean.

  • @thegratefulbrad3072
    @thegratefulbrad3072 Před rokem +1

    The best woodworking in that house is the particle board bar...
    Just sayin'....
    :)

  • @Guitarwizzard1833
    @Guitarwizzard1833 Před rokem +1

    Tell us about Bob Minner.

    • @bhawley1000
      @bhawley1000 Před rokem +6

      Bob Minner. Twice third place winner at the prestigious Winfield National flatpicking championships in the mid 1980’s. Professional multi instrumentalist, studio player, song writer, and for over 30 years toured with the country music star Tim McGraw. A lifelong fan of Norman Blake, he recorded a tribute album to Norman “From Sulphuric Springs to Rising Fawn”, released in 2022. Bob is a contributing writer for Fretboard Journal with deep experience in the flat top guitar world. Bob knows old beat up good guitars. “Firewood”. His words - not mine. This guitar has a story and a spirit. It is with my most sincere thanks to Bob for bringing the Whiskey D-18 out into the public light, and helping find its next owner.

  • @boco1951
    @boco1951 Před rokem +1

    Slackers all!

  • @t.sewell1513
    @t.sewell1513 Před rokem

    Pretty sure God himself built these amazing pieces.

  • @roderickbalt8993
    @roderickbalt8993 Před rokem

    It's a sea of d-18 sound hahaha

  • @jimmycollette9209
    @jimmycollette9209 Před rokem

    The new D-18 doesn't sound like those. I bought a 1970 model new that had the D-18 sound. I left it in my car in August of 1985. It got totalled cracked front and back. The neck came loose the finish cooked and bubbled . Tha action was unplayable. I have never found one to replace it.

  • @alan4sure
    @alan4sure Před rokem

    Sounds like Salt creek. Not river.

  • @DaveDiprose
    @DaveDiprose Před 2 měsíci

    Church St Blues - The Em G is wrong. Norman plays Am G. Em G is a Tony thing.

  • @michaelmcraemusic
    @michaelmcraemusic Před rokem

    It sure looks to me like all the guitars are using nickel strings. Perhaps the Martin Retros?

    • @dougdavis8986
      @dougdavis8986 Před rokem +1

      Yup, they all have strings.

    • @michaelmcraemusic
      @michaelmcraemusic Před rokem

      @@dougdavis8986 Right you are, brother!! I just meant they looked like Nickel as opposed to Bronze Strings.

    • @kennysmithguitar447
      @kennysmithguitar447 Před rokem +2

      Michael I’m using D’Addario EJ -22 jazz medium nickel strings

    • @dougdavis8986
      @dougdavis8986 Před rokem

      @@michaelmcraemusic have you tried the Stringjoy brand? I think they're excellent.

    • @michaelmcraemusic
      @michaelmcraemusic Před rokem

      @@kennysmithguitar447 Thanks, Kenny! Come into Gruhn and say hey sometime!!

  • @DaveDiprose
    @DaveDiprose Před 2 měsíci

    I love this video, but nothing here sounds like Norman's playing unfortunately. The bottom end needs to be more prominent.

  • @60beats44
    @60beats44 Před rokem

    Yep, kinda ...

  • @cfmartin568
    @cfmartin568 Před rokem

    Bentley huh. I thought I had the only one ever made back in the day. What a disappointment.

  • @HowCommunicationWorks

    Could not hear Minner at all

    • @bhawley1000
      @bhawley1000 Před rokem +1

      Yes - in the first song”Salt Creek” where all 4 players are playing at the same time, it is hard to hear him. Later in the video his sound comes ringing through.

  • @skoffco
    @skoffco Před 8 měsíci

    I think it’s mildly amusing that Norman sold all his actual vintage Martin guitars, and now plays a guitar called Pre-War Guitar Company, which is a new guitar that’s made to look old. Wouldn’t you think he’d want to keep his old ones 😳

    • @leeblake3989
      @leeblake3989 Před 8 měsíci

      He still has plenty of vintage Martin's and Gibsons.

    • @UAL320
      @UAL320 Před 4 měsíci

      It’s called financial planning for your retirement….

    • @cvfoster1
      @cvfoster1 Před 3 měsíci

      Understand what you mean about getting rid of those vintage gems, but don’t sleep on the Pre-War Guitars Company guitars. They are making some of the best new guitars with that old feel/sound out there.

  • @cuppalightroast
    @cuppalightroast Před rokem

    Somebody make sure Chris eats a big steak.

  • @briancook4248
    @briancook4248 Před rokem

    Awesome!

  • @johnryan527
    @johnryan527 Před rokem

    Are you can tell me what the guitar has to offer is staying out of key and really just make me run aMUCK HERE THERE mosEVERwhere often without underwear

  • @waylonfingers
    @waylonfingers Před rokem

    What a treat!