How to fit an e-bike light that runs from your bikes battery
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- Video on how to fit an e-bike light to your bike that runs from the battery of your ebike (trek rail) Link for this particular light here magicshine.com/collections/e-...
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Very informative..appreciate your guidance as always...
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, has got me inspired to do this to my cube reaction hybrid pro, only thing stopping me is the programming, is there any other way to switch the light feature on or does it have to be the dealers? I.e. over the Flow app?
Glad I found this channel, someone needs to do a better emtb 29 tire install/fix video though got my schwables on my race face carbon wheels but its still off.
Glad you found it useful, will do a 29er
1st, I would like to say that it was an amazing video, super easy to follow and very well explained.
2nd, it's a question.
I have very similar light, same brand, just different model. My question is, my ebike it's a Trance X E+2 Pro 2021, do you know if I have to do the diagnosis to enable the light from the controller? Cos when I turn on the ebike, the light dot on the controller is always on, but I can turn it off too, I would love to do that set up without the need to make a diagnosis. The controller is a giant and motor Yamaha.
Thanks. Awesome video
Hi, Thanks for watching, I'm not too familiar with the programming of yamaha motors, just stripping down and bearing replacements.
Brilliant video, can you remove the light from the handlebar when not in use.
I don't like leaving my lights etc on the handlebar when transporting my bike. Thanks
Hi, Thanks for watching, when you use the magicshine cable adaptor yes you can but the way we did it no, the light will stay on the bar.
The reasopn you have a barrel connector on the Magicshine light is to enable it to be fitted to a multitude of diferent motor units. Magicshine actually supply the cables which enable you to simply plug the light into the socket on the motor unit. Your light is then controlled via the head unit. No need to break your wiring unit (and waranty). Only issue I found is that the Bosch head unit has to be enabled for your light by a bosch dealer, but then they can also upgrade your software while they are at it.
Hi, thanks for watching and your comment. on some ebikes the manufactures fit an aux wire to supply lights, it's tucked in just below the cable exits, thought it would be good to use this wire saving on buying a new one.
Dave, I noticed you've got a rockshox coil on your rail. What specific model is that? Keen to figure out because fitment of coils with remote reservoirs that are parallel to the shaft is hit or miss (mostly hit... against the downtube).
Hi, Im not sure as the customer took the bike back, I will ask next time I see him.
Great video as always 🚲 ⚡️
I’ve done the exact same thing with my Whyte e-160rs, it trips out on full power. Do you think my lbs haven’t set the watts correctly when activating it? Any help is much appreciated.
Keep up the the good work 🎥 🚲 ⚡️
Is there any particular reason why it’s set at 6w? Thanks
did you get this sorted
Hi! What an amazing channel! I've a Decathlon E stilus 29 which has a Bosch Performance Line 65Nm (3rd gen). On the engine there are 5 ports, 3 of those are occupied by various connections. But two are unused, and should be the front and the rear light (as i found on the net). My question is: in your video those 2 ports are still free or there is a difference from my engine? If i would install the same light you used i can find a cable under the battery or i will not find anything cause the two lights port are empty? Thanks a lot!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic ?
Magicshine can supply cables for all mojor brands of motor to enable you to simply plug it into the free socket on the motor.
Do you know if that light cable is available on the new Trek Rail with the smart system? Does the light still need to be enabled with dealer software or can it be done in the Flow app?
Hi John, Magicshine have said that the new lead to connect to the bosch smart motor should be available by the end of November 22
Great video. Do you have another one showing how to solder a new connectors onto the wire?
Hi, I will try to make one in the future
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic great, thanks 👍
Great vid, is the software freeware and if so do you know where to get it? Or do I need to go to dealer anyway to get it activated. Thanks in advance
Hi the software is dealer only.
Cheers dave , it's an easy job apart from the Bosch diagnostic, is this only available through a main dealer and then is a service only job?
Hi, hope you are well, you still of work?. Yes is a dealer job only.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic howdo dave, yeh detached my left knee crashing my normal mtb, torn ligaments and stitches, proper job. Was just asking as in the future I'll need a motor overall on the Bosch in the trek rail I've got, no faults up to now, 1 year in about 750 miles and only replaced tyres and rear brake pads, cracking bike, checked the dralier as you said in a previous video, and it was loose. Cheers bud.
Sorry if I missed this in the video but what voltage does the ebike output? I have two different magicshine lights, the MJ-906 and Mountaineer 8000. Trying to understand the voltage and wattage requirements.
Hi Kris. Ebikes supply 12 volts output, the wattage supplied by a bosch motor is customisable up to 18w. The M-902S-E needs 12 volt, 6w
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Thanks. Keep the videos coming. Great to see you work and share.
I also have two Magicshine lights, MJ-906S which claims to be eBike compatible just not sure what wattage I should put it at? And the Monteer 8000S V2.0 which does not claim to be eBike compatible but uses same connector as the other light. Did you try the Monteer 8000S?? The box just references the 7.2v 10,000mah battery it comes with. Will I damage the light if I try it?
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video, I guess if you want the ability to remove the light you need the other cable/jack half?
Hi matthew, yes thats correct, you would need some kind of waterproof cover on the supply jack to keep the water out when not in use.
the mj906s ebike light has only 2800lumens max. And on bosch systems if you give the maximum output of 18 watt you will get around 1800lm from that light(which is plenty). Giving the light from diagnostic tool only 6 watts you will get a maximum of probably 600lm.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
Good video, how can i get the diagnostic software?
Hi, Thanks for watching, sorry but it's dealer only
Hello, I bought the Magicshine 906s and installed it in my Trek Rail 9.9. I did it exactly as you did in this video. The light flashed for a second and then threw an error code 550. I took it to my dealer and they're not sure why it's doing that. I was wondering if you had any idea?
Hi Craig, sorry to hear your having trouble, the 550 code is related to the light or the load output. in the diagnostics, having said that there are 26 codes associated to that codes, for example 550023 is Unknown consumer load detected
⇒ motor support is switched off. It is fairly easy for a bosch dealer with the right software to fix.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic thanks for getting back to me. I've been to my dealer and they're at a loss. I did get ahold of Magicshine in China and they think the light is in the battery mode, not ebike mode. They've told me to hold the power button down for 8 secs until it flashes, then it'll be in ebike mode. I'm going back to dealer to have them erase the error code and see if that works. Otherwise I think I need another light, but getting China to do that seems difficult.
Hi Craig, magic have a dealer or distributor here in the uk. It could be a faulty light, wish I could have a look for you, sorry
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic tks again, how important is setting the wattage at 6, vs 9, 12, or 18 watts?
Extremely important, setting it wrong could give you 550 errors
Hi. I set up the watts to 18. It was fine in the shop. I didn't know what value to set. When I got home and I tested the light, the light opens for 1sec and then on purrion I get error 550. What should I do?
Hi, Thanks for watching, error 550 can mean faults on electrical systems, it might not be related to your light , when you disconnect the light do you still get the error? Errors can be complicated, if you can get it to for bike shop for a diagnostic check so bosch can take a look if it continues.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Hi. I manage to do it. The error is because the light went in the bike mode after I hold the bottom over 8 sec by mistake trying to close the light when was working. What I had to do is to disconnect the light from my bike, plug it in to a normal battery and hold the bottom for 8 sec to change it back to ebike mode.
Good thing I skipped ahead to find out one MUST have the ability to modify the software to do this. I just used the display control unit using the wires from the original small/cheap/crummy light to control a MOSFET which then connects to the ebike battery to power the 18W/1200 Lumen light through the MOSFET.
The light itself could handle from 12VDC to 80VDC while outputting the same brightness.
Result: No programming and dirt simple hardware mod. Of course, alternatively I could also have just wired the new light directly to the battery with a fuse and manual SPST switch mounted to the handlebar.
It really amazes me that manufacturers provide a cheap, barely visible $5 headlight on $1000 ebikes.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments.
Will this light work with a bafang ultra 620 mid drive
Hi Nate, Yes is will providing there is a 12v output plug/terminal on your motor or elsewhere in your wiring harness
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Thank you for responding. I have another question .Will I need to go to bafang
Will I have to reprogram after hooking up light?
how did you connect the computer?
Hi Dennis, not sure what you mean
At 6.36 why is there an unused cable with red and black wires just hanging around waiting for you to connect the light to?
Hi Tony, Yes, they are installed at the factory but power disabled until needed.
Thanks. Is there one on my Gazelle Grenoble?
Bmx electric bike "Torpedo" Class 1 Max 180w Max 17mph 20' model 02028
Link to the light Dave? Cost?Easyish job but you have to take the bike to a dealer to get it enabled. Also, no rear light! Essential on roads
Hi John, Iv'e put a link to the light in the description, yes dealer enabled i'm afraid.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Thanks Dave. Looks like an expensive job as the lights not cheap then add £20 i guess for the lbs to 'mod' the settings. Sticking to my ebay under a tenner front and rear light set for now, and its not rubbish!
Would be great to be able to tap into the bike battery for phone charging and lights or even for a tyre pump.
Seems to be a section of the vid missing? Jumps from tinning the cut light wires to all done and soldered.
Hi, yes I had a few issues with sound on some shots, sorry about that.
what about the rear light?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments, great question, there are some out there but they mainly marketed towards the commuter, not too many mtb riders want wires running along the rear end of there bikes
For anyone trying this, I've just set up an MJ 906S and it seems if you try and crank it to max brightness, the bike will detect too much draw and will error code. To fix, you need to reset the light to a lower setting using an another supply, i didn't wait to see if the light loses memory over time.
So if you haven't bought your light yet, you might as well stick to 2000 lumens with the Bosch. And now what I'm thinking of doing is running a 2nd 2000 lumen on the front, using the rear supply. So a 2 light setup. Anyone tried this?
Good comments.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic also I should of thanked you for the vid - cheers.
your soldering skills must be as good as mine, hence you not showing that part. lol
Hi Darren, I thought no one would notice, no they are good just struggled with camera angles
Use the low temp solder/heat shrinks, solders and seals all in one go, been using them for years now, won’t go back
Why not just fit the female or male fitting to the bike loom piece of shrink wrap over the top done ?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments, you need a regulated 12v oiutput
Holy moly dude. I cringed so hard at 9:10 when you are stripping the wire by cutting towards your own hand. I guarantee that there is a better way to cut that plug/insulation off.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your concern, Im very old school, a cut or two is part of the job
Is it possible to use such a light without connecting it to a drive unit, and instead connect it to a separate 12V battery? Or does the drive unit use some kind of stupid CAN signal to turn on the light? The reason I'm asking is that I would want to use such a light on a regular bike, not an ebike.
Hi thanks for watching, yes you can use it on a normal bike and ring it from a 12v battery the light has its own switch, I can’t see the benefit though as you might as well buy a light with internal battery to mount on your bars
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Thanks, for responding! Sure, I could. But I'm sick and tired of fiddling with 27 different batteries on a bike. That's why I'm planning on installing both front and rear light, and power them from a common battery. Granted, not this specific front light, but something like that. That's why I was asking, because I don't want to buy an expensive light, and not be able to use it, because it needs some kind of CAN signal, or something. Also, since I've mentioned a common battery - I'm not aware of any light sets that use a common battery, and certainly none that are StVZO compliant (or at least "compliant adjecent 🤣), which is what I'm aiming for. I want to have proper road lights, with cut off beam, and I'll even try to get brake lights working, if I can. For example - I've seen that Supernova lights can be wired to Magura MT5e brake levers, but I'll try to do it without replacing the brakes. Maybe the magnet sensors that people use with ebike conversions could work. I'm not sure yet.