Inner Mongolia Independence - the 5 minute guide
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Inner Mongolia is one of China's five "autonomous regions," but previously it has been an independent country twice (sort of). Here's its history, including its present day separatist movements, boiled down into a 5 minute guide.
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Music: V. V. Campos / A Burning Flame - courtesy of Epidemic Sound
Chapters:
Inner Mongolia & Outer Mongolia 00:00
Mengjiang 00:39
Soviets invade Inner Mongolia 01:17
Ulanhu and Inner Mongolia 01:35
Inner Mongolian separatism 02:16
Hada 02:43
2020 Inner Mongolia protests 03:11
Inner Mongolia activist groups 03:39
Munkhbayar Chuluundorj 04:06
Conclusion 04:24
#innermongolia #china
I love your videos because they always talk about topics that no one else covers on CZcams! Keep up the great work!!
Wow, thank you Trebbie! In this video and the one on Ambazombia I have tried a new style of video inspired by you and my friend EU Made Simple - so thanks for the inspiration!
Sorry you want to do more research, there was not a total ban on the teaching of Mongolian language in schools they just switch the use of Mandarin Chinese on 2 or 3 subjects one of them is math. The rest of the subjects are still being taught in Mongolian and the traditional Mongolian script is still being use in schools unlike in Mongolia where they use russian alphabet.
Sounds like you ought to listen to the video more carefully, and avoid bad faith arguments. I said, "More recently, protests erupted after the government decided to stop teaching schoolchildren in Mongolian and switched to teaching in Mandarin." Based on what you say, I got this right (as I didn't use the words "total ban" but instead used more general language). Even if this could be argued to be a slight misrepresentation (which it isn't) the protests were still about the change in teaching language, however many subjects the change covered. If you are correct, it doesn't change the point being made at this part of the video in any way (so a bad faith argument in my opinion).
@@FredoRockwell there are no change in teaching Mongolian since a majority of the subjects are still taught in Mongolian language. Plus you do realise that for these students who wish to continue their education in university they need to have a good grasp of Mandarin Chinese since all universities in China a taught in Mandarin Chinese, you don’t see native Indians in US being taught their native languages or the aborigines in Australia having their own schools, but no one is outrage with that but in China you are destroying their culture! Spare me your fake outrage!
I'm not outraged? Where did you get that idea? I'm not sure if you're claiming there was a change in teaching languages or not, but it was widely reported in reputable media that there were changes and this led to protests which the government claimed were attended by Inner Mongolian separatists. That's the fact that the video is addressing.
@@FredoRockwell your video clearly state that the Chinese government stop schools teaching children in Mongolian which is not true you clearly trying to spin your own narrative in the video. If you want to make an informative video then you should get all your facts straight but you’re obviously not trying to be informative but just what create your own bias narrative.
You said it was true a few comments ago? I'm not sure will believe you, but can you clarify? Did the government reduce or stop the use of Mongolian as a medium of instruction in schools?!
Fantastic! I’d always wondered about the Inner and Outer Mongolia separation. Another brilliant summary.
Thank you! Just so you know, I vastly simplified the story for Outer Mongolia. There was a tussle for control between China and the Russians/Soviets between 1911-1928. I'm not exactly sure why everyone wanted their own puppet state in this part of Asia, though!
@@FredoRockwell China does not want to turn Outer Mongolia into a puppet state, but rather wants Outer Mongolia to remain China's territory, just as Inner Mongolia is China's territory. The Yuan Dynasty established by the Mongols once unified China, and the dynasty established by the Mongols used the system of Han political power, including national titles, emperor titles, and posthumous titles after the emperor's death. These are all systems left over by the Han people. The Mongols were actually Chinese at that time. The Qing Dynasty also ruled over the entire Mongolian territory. During the Qing Dynasty, both Inner Mongolia and Outer Mongolia were on the territory of China. At the end of the Qing Dynasty, China declined and gradually lost control over Outer Mongolia. After the Republic of China replaced the Qing Dynasty, warlords separated and had almost no control over Outer Mongolia. The Soviet Union then targeted Outer Mongolia, hoping to give it independence from China, because China was still a weak country at that time and could not stop it, Only Outer Mongolia can be recognized as independent. After Outer Mongolia gained independence, the Soviet Union turned Outer Mongolia into its own puppet state. To be honest, if Outer Mongolia were not independent, the quality of life of the current Outer Mongolian people would definitely improve significantly.
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@@CristoperCris-ix2rp I don't understand your comment, sorry. I'm not British, but I do live in the UK. Are you saying because I live here, and the UK government once did some terrible things that I thereby lose the right to make criticisms of the actions of other countries? Do you understand that it is possible to live in a country without having to take responsibility for the actions of its government?
China didn’t erase minor ethnic language as Russia/USSR did, Mongolia and Central Asia countries used Cyrillic. Uighurs、inner Mongolians still keep their own languages and writing letters. Han letters and mandarin didn’t replace these stuff.
这些人只是想分裂中国而已
Do you know about uigur genocide
@@karimovislomjon-or3fy what do you know about that
"I'm proud member of CCP"
@@karimovislomjon-or3fy In 1949, the Uyghur population in China was more than 2 million, and by 2021, the Uyghur population in China has grown to 11.77 million.
0:20 Hey that's me
Way to go!!
Actually, there were 3 Mongolian countries/regions( idk what to call them). There was Zuun gariin uls (Dzungar) now known as the Republic of Buryatia, Tuva, and Khalmyk in three different parts of Russia, Khalkh Mongol (Now outer Mongolia), Baruun/Oirat Mongol (Now Inner Mongolia). When people make videos about the Mongols they tend to forget about Zuun gariin haant uls.
Dzungars were long genocided back in 18th century, now Xinjiang has less Mongol population than Inner Mongolia, thus it's no longer correct to claim Dzungaria as a Mongol land. If the genocide didn't happen, I bet there would've been two Mongolias by now, or a just a bigger Mongolia
@@XICKOprobably not
How interesting. Thx
2:50 to 3:01 The Navajo, Cherokee, Chickasaw, and Creek Nations are crying right now. They could have simply demanded that in their free society
Great video! Support from Mongolia.
Thank you!
Support？ We wish your country would say the same, and leave the rest for us. haha
Чи их инээдтэй юмаа.Зөвлөлтийн үед монгол бичиг хүртэл өөрчлөгдсөн.Жинхэнэ монгол бичгийг сурахын тулд Хятад руу явах хэрэгтэй.
Until this point I had always assumed “Inner Mongolia” was a name western countries called the province due to its proximity to the nation of Mongolia and had nothing to do with culture. Thank you for informing me.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I think the term "Southern Mongolia" is nicer, as the "Inner" refers to its proximity to China, but I thought I should use the name that's most widely known. 🙂
Mongolians cant even stand against 20 million Han Chinese in inner Mongolia. I m not even talking about government.
I believe Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales will be indepent ealier before Inner Mongolia got independence.
20 cent army
@@peertube606750 CIA cents
What a cope
@@yougottamove 🤡
Regarding 1:41, I believe it would have been more accurate for the CCP flag to move in from the north/Manchuria instead of Beijing/Shandong, because with the civil war the communists main army had been basically pushed to Manchuria by the KMT, from where they then launched their major offensives that won them the civil war.
Also what I think might be good to point out is that historically Inner Mongolia existed separate from the Chinese was for the region of geography, as the southern border of the Inner Mongolian region is defined by Loess Plateau's eastern edge and the greater Khingan mountain range. Only really with the Mongol Yuan Dynasty did the region first come to belong as a part of China, because of Mongols. Then during the Qing Dynasty the region would also only really become part of China due to the nomad Manchu ruled Qing Dynasty deciding to take over the whole of Mongolia. Historically Inner Mongolia has always been part of Mongolia due to geography, until the 20th century when China collapsed and a combination of Chinese colonisation/settlement and Russian interference led to these two regions being split apart, and today Inner Mongolia has so many Chinese people that integrating it into Mongolia would make Monglia majority Chinese funnily enough.
You've got a point, I'm sure. I didn't place the flag with the intention of showing where the attack actually came from, but I should have on reflection.
You're lying, historically inner Mongolia has been different from Outer Mongolia, the former presents a more "sinoed" featured and was far more integrated into China than the latter.
Correction it seems to be doing decently well
You can maybe ask the Mongolians inside if they want to live in China or the Republic of Mongolia
We want to live in mongolia 🇲🇳 because it's real freedom country. Maybe you know notting about freedom haha
@@dalaijargalnot really free country
Just becoming another puppet to capitalism in the global south
@@dalaijargalI'm an Indian and we'll liberate you brother once we're powerful enough
Sure, the 80% Han ethnics who are the Inner Mongolia residents will definitely go alone with this. 😂😂😂 DH.
Do they want their own independent nation or to reunite with the rest of "Outer" Mongolia?
There are calls for Greater Mongolia, as well as people who just want more autonomy within China. From what I can see there's lots of variation.
I wish you had correct Inner Mongolian map. Ordos 'city' (formerly Ikhzuu league), a large and important part of Inner Mongolia was cut off from your maps
Sorry! I just used the maps that I could access. If I cover this again I'll try to do better. 🙂
不管怎么说我觉得客观还是重要的，不是罗马白人占领埃及就是合理而汉人占领内蒙古就是不合理，只是基于尊重事实而不是感情的讨论问题
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Leader of Mengkuko (Mengjiang)
Spirit of Genghis
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Is this from a game? If so, which one? 😃
@@FredoRockwell It’s from Hearts of Iron 4 I think.
There’s also the Buryat republic in Russia which is also Mongolian
Indeed! And other Russian republics are Mongolian as well I think. I hope to make videos on some of these in future.
@@FredoRockwell Only Buryat lol. Tuva and Altai were Turkic.
@@khust2993 Tuva is totally Mongolic bro. Only one of many dialects are turkic. Subutai was Tuvanic.
Okay fair enough it wasn't the first time I watched it
Your dedication is much appreciated!
What about buryat?
Coming soon...
所以说内蒙古虽然曾经是蒙古人的土地但是被满洲人征服又送给汉人，就像罗马帝国和古埃及的关系，希腊人征服埃及建立托勒密王国然后托勒密王国被罗马征服，所以说虽然埃及是埃及人的土地但是属于罗马法理上的确没啥问题，客观来说
Well lot of Inner Mongolians are migrating to Mongolia.They're mostly from Shiliin Gol and Hulunbuir
I found it!
SOME SOURCES USED TO MAKE THIS VIDEO:
The Southern Mongolian Human Rights Information Center: www.smhric.org/
SMHRIC bio of Hada: www.smhric.org/Hada/Hada_1.htm
Chinese government blames Inner Mongolian Separatists for 2020 language protests: www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/china-s-police-minister-talks-terrorism-during-inner-mongolia-tour-amid-rare-protests-over-language/story-9jWpwHFERYZBXyZo7ciPJO.html
Open Democracy article about Hada: www.opendemocracy.net/en/lost-in-time-hada-inner-mongolian-dissident/
Letters from Munkhbayar Chuluundorj (published by the SMHRIC): www.smhric.org/news_711.htm
AFP coverage of MR Chuluundorj's sentencing: hongkongfp.com/2022/07/06/activist-critical-of-china-sentenced-to-10-years-in-mongolia/
PEN America calls for release of Mr Chuluundorj: pen.org/press-release/pen-america-calls-for-the-immediate-acquittal-and-release-of-mongolian-activist-munkhbayar-chuluundorj-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison-for-protesting-china-mongolia-relations/
Southern Mongolian Comment on Current Affairs (in Chinese): smglnc.blogspot.com/
The Mengjiang flag looks like off-brand Thailand.
I had a similar thought. I actually really like the Mengjiang flag. It's too bad it's associated with terrible things!
说到底内蒙古曾经不属于中国就像埃及曾经不属于罗马帝国，但是客观上已经被国家纳入其中，从法理角度来说是没有问题的，只是感情上这个领土是异民族的土地
I understand that it’s just a brief summary but I’d like to do my best to point out a couple flaws in this video.
0:15 Pretty large simplification considered Inner Mongolia and Outer Mongolia weren’t really their own provinces and more, regions made up of Banners, Leagues, Aimags and directly controlled territories. There were also the Upper Mongols of Qinghai and the western Oirat Mongols of Dzungaria/Xinjiang.
0:33 It was less, USSR meddling in politics more, Red Army backing a Mongolian socialist revolution against the Chinese, who reoccupied Outer Mongolia in 1919. Also, it might have been helpful to note, the Bogd Khanate did try to invade and liberate Inner Mongolia from 1912-1915.
1:25 This is, in my opinion the worst part of the video. The Inner Mongolian People’s Republic wasn’t a Soviet puppet state. It was established by multiple Inner Mongolians seeking independence, they specifically requested soviet and Outer Mongolian support but were rejected, because the Soviets wished to back the Chinese communists instead.
1:44 Ulanhu didn’t really invade, he came to Inner Mongolia and told them to dissolve their government and join the CCP, which they did peacefully. Would also be important to note, Ulanhu was slandered during the Cultural Revolution and Inner Mongolia was briefly partitioned by other provinces.
3:58 Mongolia is the official name of the state, “Republic of” isn’t part of it
Again, no hate, I’m aware it’s just a brief summary, but some of these mistakes are pretty bad. If I got anything wrong myself, feel free to correct me.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Getting detailed information online about Mongolian history was a challenge, whether in English or another language, but everything in the video was researched. If there are errors they're entirely my responsibility, but they will have been based on sources.
I didn't come across any source that reflected your account of the pro-Soviet Inner Mongolia, or Ulanhu. That doesn't mean they're incorrect, but they're not reflected in what I found. Saying that, as I mentioned, it was very hard to find much detail to work with at all.
But again, thank you for commenting. I've got a third video about a Mongolian speaking people in production.
@@FredoRockwell Thank you for your polite response!
I would highly recommend, in the future, creating a list of sources, (most helpful if specifically timestamped or quoted), under a video, as well as a bibliography of works you have read in relation to the topic!
@dimathegoose I provided a list of sources in the pinned comment. 🙂 They're not time stamped - I'm not sure that would work as it could conflict with the way CZcams chapters are created (they're generated from timestamps in the video description) but that's an interesting idea. I'll look into that!
Just reviewing my sources now - they're more focused on modern events. I think this was because that's where the more exact sources I found were focused, and also the part of the video I was most interested in.
It is 99% impossible that Inner Mongolia could make independence from China because the population of Han Chinese is several times to the population of Mongolian Chinese in inner Mongolia.
That is a real issue with no easy answers, I know. One of the things Hada was campaigning against (before he was arrested and imprisoned) was a government policy of encouraging Han Chinese to settle in Inner Mongolia. It's a typical Imperial tactic also used by Russia over the centuries - gradually replace the original people (especially their culture and language) with a new people.
@@FredoRockwell Yes. Russians used to kick out Chinese from out Manchuria . But Spanish and Anglox-Saxon-Irish-German colonists may present the most cruel cases.Spaniards, Britons and White Americans used to make genocides in American continent to make the European migrants become the majority of population in the New World. It finally led to the situation that native Americans only take 2% of population in the U.S. Native Americans were even forced to move from east to west in the US.
In fact, race-mixing between Han Chinese and Mongolian Chinese are very common in China. Most Mongolian Chinese have no motives to build another country. Most Latinos are mixed people of Europeans and native Americans because most Latin people can accept race-mixing. In Canada and the US, race-mixing between Europeans and native Americans are not so common. British and American colonists had plans to wipe off native Americans to make European migrants become the majority of population in their new land. The case of residential schools of native Americans in Canada is just one case of them. There are records that European colonists spread smallpox to the camps of native Americans to try to wipe off native Americans.
@@FredoRockwell In fact, ancient Mongols who lived in inner Mongolia were closer to Beijing regime since 600 years ago because Ming dynasty used to rule the region when Mongolian regime was kicked out from Beijing. Most inner Mongolian elites decided to join the new regime of Republic of China because inner Mongolians allied with Manchu people who built the last dynasty of China. The last Manchu emperor decided to give the whole right of the territory to the president of Republic of China in 1912. So, Manchu people and inner Mongolians decided to join Republic of China by their free will. But out Mongolians decided to leave since then.
@@FredoRockwell What you said is very common to most regimes. The US government had to encourage some white Americans to migrate to Hawaii or the movements of independence will happen after some decades. The US cannot rule Philippine for a long time because of the demographic issue. Japanese also moved lots of Japanese to Okinawa in order to occupy Okinawa forever. Japanese invaders moved lots of people to Manchuria before 1945. Lots of Mongols migrated to north and south Chinese when Mongols conquered the territory of Han Chinese. Mongolian conquerors also moved their people to central Asia, president day Xinjiang, Crimea and Russia when Mongols conquered a great area of Asia and Europe. British colonists may be the most radical ones in the policy of replacing the indigenous people by their own people. The cases of the residential schools of native Americans in Canada and the stolen children of native Australian families were hidden for a long time. Humans are selfish.
@@FredoRockwell Russians are not as cruel as Anglo-Saxon-Irish-German and Spanish colonists because 90% native Americans died when smallpox was spread to the camp of native Americans. There are letters about that British army tried to learn the old tactics of Spaniards to spread the smallpox to the camps of native Americans. They often gave some food and cloth to native Americans and spread the smallpox. Native Australians are similar.....only 2% of population in their homeland.
one day inner mongoli and tibet r reunited 💓 💖 ✨ 💕
Do you mean as a political union, or just as friendly neighbours?
Hey can you make a video about “the great purge of inner Mongolian people’s party”? That is a very critical event in Mongolian history but very rare introduction in English video form. That is event one of the most cruel bloody event in all time human history, but I wonder why this kind of big event is rarely known by peoples. Maybe there is ccp oppressing on this.
Hiya, thanks for this comment. I've got to admit, this is a subject I know nothing about but sounds interesting. I'm hoping to make more videos about Mongolian politics in the region so I'll look out for it. 🙂
@@FredoRockwell the book called “the steppe without gravestones ” is wrote about this massacre
The reference here to Southern Mongolia as an "autonomous zone" within the dynasty founded by Mao can be dispensed with as a disinformational fabrication. The video fails to note the striking contrast between Soviet and Han overlordship of the two Mongolias: Northern Mongolia retained a sense of cultural identity under Soviet stewardship while the Southern bit has had their ethnos and culture genocided with technocratic precision. This, interestingly, is exactly what Owen Lattimore predicted would happen.
I'm not sure I used the term "autonomous zone" in the video. Inner Mongolia is technically an "autonomous region" in China, which is a misleading term, but no more misleading than the terms "People's Republic" or "Soviet Socialist Republic." Totally avoiding the terminology used by a state itself isn't really a practical option for promoting discussion in my opinion as it will probably just confuse everyone.
As for what the comparison I "failed" to note, this video is not a comparison between Mongolia and Southern Mongolia. I was trying to tell the story of Southern Mongolia primarily in a five minute video, and so therefore only covered Mongolia when it was directly relevant to the narrative. What I mean is, it was a deliberate choice.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@FredoRockwell You helpfully referred to the autonomous region in scare quotes in your description, which I failed to note, and the rationale for using the State sponsored nomenclature is sound. As to terminology, though, while "puppet state" is commonly used, it has the effect of supporting Han hegemonistic claims and diminishing the Japanese and Russian (and later Soviet) roles in the region's statecraft. Tatiana Linkhoeva is currently working on a study that should be helpful in this regard. Basically, various independence movements within the Manchu and Mongol allied with various factions within the Japanese (and Russian) government over time with mixed motivations and mixed results. Characterizing these entities as puppets is far too reductionist.
@@realrhetoric I agree the term "puppet state" is potentially reductionist, but merely trying to cover this topic in just 5 minutes makes it necessary to stick to commonly understood terms. You also have a much more in depth knowledge of this period than I do, and from what you say it seems clear that if the Inner Mongolian People's Republic had endured, then Inner Mongolia would be much more likely to be independent today (in the same way that Mongolia is independent).
However... I don't think the Soviet's expansionist moves in Asia were benevolent. It was a geopolitical power play that put the needs of the regime in Moscow above those of the local people. Perhaps the Soviets would have been better masters, but imperial masters nonetheless. If I was an Inner Mongolian living in the 1940s, I'm not sure I would have been able to determine which foreign power was better to be ruled by.
@@FredoRockwell Well, that's the nice thing about Mongolia/Manchuria. We don't have to guess. The Soviets/Russia proved to be the much better overlord. Indeed, there's no territory that China's conquered that it hasn't genocided. We have now Tibet and Eastern Turkmenistan in addition to Southern Mongolia and Manchuria. Add to that China's coveting of Korea, Taiwan, Cambodia, Burma . . . all areas it claims as inalienable parts of the Motherland (and only a fraction of the total) ... relentlessly expansionist.
Plus, we have Lattimore's prescience, mentioned above, to let us know that an informed observer at that time could see which way things were heading. The choice was never between independence and China or Russia. Independence wasn't on the table. The Manchus had enslaved the Han for centuries before their dynasty's collapse, so it was always going to be payback time. Siding with the Japanese was one of the few less undesirable options.
I guess the most important point, though, is to separate out CCP historiography and really reject it wholesale.
What a load of BS, what writing system do Mongolia use? And what writing system do Inner Mongolia use? I rest my case!!
Inner Mongolia Population= 25 million.
Mongolia Population= 3 million.
Inner Mongolia joins Mongolia, then holds referendum to join China.
Result= China gains 3 million new citizens.
That sounds very unlikely. I'm not aware of any territories outside China campaigning to become part of China. But who knows, maybe some day.
@@FredoRockwell its not the unlikeliness of it, its the thought process. Mongolia depends on China for 80% of its Exports, depends on Russia for 90% of energy imports and with a declining population and economy due to corruption, its only a matter of time before it becomes a puppet of China, if its not one already. China only need close its entire border with mongolia to bring that nation to its knees. Inner Mongolia gaining independence from China will be in the same Sense of ROC gaining independence from PRC, as a Chinese majority State not under the central government of China in Beijing. Mongols advocating for inner Mongolia independence are as toothless as Maoris advocating for Outright Maori ownership and independence of new Zealand from white colonizers.
The subject Should be can Mongolia Survive between Russia and China, not will a part of china a stone throw away from the Capital become independent.
@@FredoRockwell Next topic should be can Mongolia Survive between Russia and China.
@@facebookmary7502 That sounds like a different video than mine, but an interesting one nonetheless! You should make it - I will watch if you do. 🙂
Well this is doing terribly
China 🌋
It's full of pride and prejudice. The origin of your documents is questionable. Seeing is believing.
I've read Pride and Prejudice, and I can assure you it's nothing at all like my video. I've included no romantic storyline, or even any plot related to marriage. I think you must have left this comment on the wrong video by mistake.
Ulanhu changing his name is a typical communist thing. No sane Mongolian parents would their name kid (REDSON) fking hell lmao. He also didn't speak Mongolian so no wonder being hated by Inner Mongolians.
Thanks for this! I knew Ulanhu meant Red Son, but not that he didn't speak Mongolian. I'm not surprised he wasn't liked!
It’s sad that his traitorous family still exist. Even they are sinicized
Ulankhuu is ethnic Han chinese, he is not mongolian, just pretends to be
How can a Han Chinese have a Mongolian name
@@crosschannel1728 he couldnt speak freely Mongolian. He was also true fanaticar of CCP. Also blood is 50% han chinese at least. What he did is, only good for CCP. Because china had already murdered many Mongolians in Inner Mongolia, who could lead independence during Culture Revolution.
From conquering China and starting a Dynasty To literally being a province of China where the majority of them pick Mongolians left. How the mighty have fallen LOL
The "mighty" all lived centuries ago and are long gone. Modern day Inner Mongolians are not free, but I don't think it's fair to call them "fallen"either.
Chahar nations. Not inner mongol
I am a Mongolian(outer) even though we're independent we're largely dependent on russia and china and if we look at history in 1636 the inner mongolians overthrow Ligden khan(the last golden lineage khan of mongolia)and decided to be part of qing dynasty and the russian empire took over buriatiya and at that time the mongolians were at war with qing and also the dzungar khanate which made us weak and fell to the qing dynasty and after that dzungar also fell under qing, mongolians were brutally slaughtered left and right which you can see from our population until 1911, now mongolia is just a mere pawn to russia and china. At a least we have secret biological weapons and nukes under our dispose hahahahaahhhaha
It seems unlikely, but there's at least a chance that there will be new Mongolian states in the near future, depending on what happens in Russia. I agree with your assessment, but hopefully the calculation will change. Also, best not to joke about weapons of mass destruction!! 😯
Outer Mongolia should return back to China to become richer
Another one is doping high😂Outer Mongolia should think of making friends with Russia and China,because to be honest Russia and China controls Outer Mongolia's fate,as China is getting stronger and stronger,outer Mongolians should show more friendly attitude towards China,which is the clever thing to do.
@@tedwang50 Yeah you’re probably right unless things change . Every empire rise and fall . It’s only a matter of time before China fragments and to stop that Chinese are killing and reducing the number of ethnic minorities . China is trying to become one nation politically and ethnically.
@@FredoRockwell That was a joke about air pollution and true the air pollution here is sort of like a weapon at this point.
Someday china will claim mars and Jupiter is their territory because they see them in telescope 😂
I couldn't help but notice you didn't mention the Moon - but then China has struggled with its missions there of late...
@@FredoRockwell yah 🤣🤣🤣even once they claimed moon to buy land there
@FredoRockwell you're completely prejudiced against China. In any case, they just landed a probe on the far side of the moon. Your throw-away line that china have had trouble getting to the moon is not only false, but shows your sinophobic tendency. You probably see this as an evil attempt to colonise the moon. It's funny how people project western crimes of colonisation onto China when they never colonised other nations despite being the most powerful country/civilisation for the preponderance of history.
How bout Mongolia returning to China
Han peoples (Chinese) are invaders
Anglo-Saxon invaders america
No,never.
Crying Mongol noises
No idea what that means! But I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Meme culture I believe
Better watch ya mouth or scourge of sky will strike Iranian helpless people once again .
Why do people reporting topics about other countries never bother to look up pronounciations? It takes 5 seconds to copy paste a word into google translate to listen to how it should sound.
I bother when I'm aware of something. What did I mispronounce?
Payback and reparations for Genghis Khan and his crimes. 😁
Genghis Khan died 800 years ago!
哈哈，很好的笑话。
你是在嘲笑习近平和中华人民共和国吗？！
@@FredoRockwell 不，你很好笑，像个小丑🤡，哈哈。
我宁愿做小丑也不愿做小熊维尼！
@@FredoRockwell 好的，小丑🤡。哈哈
@@FredoRockwell 原來你會中文。內蒙古基本上不可能獨立，因為人口多數是漢人。即便是蒙族也很多是蒙漢混血。這地方是內陸地區，周圍只有中俄，西方勢力很難介入的。
几十几百人也叫活跃？🤣真能鬼扯
Dozens or hundreds of people willing to risk persecution by going public with their support for independence from a regime that puts separatists in prison sounds pretty active to me. The real joke is to belittle the effort of others.
@@FredoRockwell不要天天做梦了，你自己的国家英国更容易分裂，苏格兰爱尔兰自由万岁
@@FredoRockwell喜欢蒙古可以移民蒙古，很可惜几乎没有内蒙古人移民到蒙古。蒙古女孩经常为生活到内蒙边境从事卖淫行业
Why not compare Outer Mongolia and Inner Mongolia when criticizing China's restrictions on Inner Mongolia culture in this video. You cannot find anyone in Outer Mongolia who knows Mongolian language and Mongolian script, they have already discarded all Mongolian languages! On the contrary, Inner Mongolia still retains the teaching of Mongolian and Mongolian to this day. I don't know where the news accusing the Chinese government of suspending Mongolian language and Mongolian language teaching came from? It's easy to fabricate a lie, but refuting a lie takes 100 times the time. Isn't it true that the separatist organizations supported by the West and the West are operating through this low-cost smear campaign in the media? The rumormongers of BBC CNN YOU are everywhere! Individual organizations and media promoting the United States around the world can receive regular subsidies, which is an astronomical number that no country can afford except the United States. Due to the financial hegemony of the United States, it only needs to print out these dollars to continuously fill the entire transmission route with fake news that suits its taste.
Because I don't make comparison videos much. If that's what you're after, I recommend my friend Mr Beat. 🙂
@@FredoRockwell你这种收钱办事的有啥用？
The majority of Outer Mongolians do know the Traditional script, they always had that script, it's just the specific type of Mongolian Script was not standardized yet, they currently use the Todo script of the Oirats.
Also, China lies, they lie a lot, yes every country likes it, but China is untrustable, they aren't a Democracy, and they don't have free speech, they have high censorship, which is why you don't see much news coverage of the Tiananmen Square, Mongolian and Uyghur Cultural Genocide, Heavy losses at the border with India, and China's embarrassing loss at the hands of Vietnam in 1979.
@@Scankarl Hehe, why does India still hold grudges for defeating China to this day? Nehru was forced to resign due to his victory over China? The troops used by China in the Vietnam War were all new recruits who had just enlisted for less than a year. You can see their sacrifice age and enlistment time in China's Martyrs Cemetery! Even so, the newly formed troops can still defeat the Vietnamese forces. All of China's elite troops were stationed in the north to prevent the Soviet invasion. As for the treatment of the Uyghur and Mongolian ethnic groups in China, you can refer to the recognition of China's Muslim policy in the Islamic world to prove that you are a instigator full of lies and disseminators. As for the treatment of the Mongolian people in China, the GDP and population of Inner Mongolian people are several times that of Outer Mongolian people! Up to now, Inner Mongolian people can still understand their own ancient script, and the signs and signs on the streets are written in both Chinese characters and Mongolian. But what about Outer Mongolia?
So put away your lies!
Actually, lies are easily exposed! You just need to open Google and take a look at the street views of Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang to know if the local characters have been preserved. On the other hand, is the Outer Mongolian sign still authentic Mongolian?
@zhanxu125 Unfortunately, Indian people tend to hold Grudges, just like any other human being.
Vietnam had just gone out of a Massive 30 decade of war with France, Japan and America without much rest. Vietnam was crippled and shattered, yet China couldn't prevent the Vietnamese from taking Laos and Cambodia and ending the Polpots regime, it doesn't matter if the best of China was in the Soviet Border, the fact that a crippled country like Vietnam managed to take down a regime and hold back China is embarrassing, the Main issue with France, Japan and USA was they were very far away from Vietnam or dealing with harder wars, but China was a neighbour of Vietnam.
Reports from international organizations, including the United Nations, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, as well as leaked government documents and testimonies, and satellite images, provide evidence of human rights abuses in Xinjiang. These include arbitrary detention, forced labour, mass surveillance, and restrictions on religious and cultural practices. Despite Chinese government denials, the weight of evidence suggests a serious human rights crisis in the region. This is the same thing as Japan committing Mass Genocides in China, but instead of making it mainstream sports news, they hide it, any government can hide mass genocides, and you can rarely trust any country, except International Cooperations, unless there is are ruling elites in International Cooperations that specifically hate China, there is nothing to prove Genocide isn't going on or didn't happen.
Free South Mongolia from Han (China)
Yes,Tibet,East Turkestan n Inner Mongolia could independence in their dream. Let their happy in dreaming.😊
False and wrong history of inner and outer Mongolia, tainted by the western wicked ideology.
Where?
Imperialisme uk😮
The UK was once an imperial nation, yes, but that's not massively relevant to a video about Inner Mongolia. If you look at my check channel page, there's a video about Scottish independence (which is legal to advocate for in the UK).
@@FredoRockwell做蒙古独立没有流量，应该做新疆，骗骗外国人哈哈哈
6320 位订阅者，真可怜，现在做蒙独还有经费？你看看有内蒙古人支持你吗🤣
感觉他们根本不在乎内蒙古人怎么想的
@@binnili9350 内蒙人谁想和蒙古合并啊…
the mongolian living in inner mongolia have a much higher standard of living.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Do you think a higher standard of living justifies having fewer civil liberties? I've heard many times that this is the CCP's justification for how it rules China.
@@FredoRockwell civil liberties? try comparing to the western world. there aren't that much of a difference. Can't purchase guns, no porn, no gambling etc. . these are the things that the government think it is not good for children and public. remember, people who runs the government are civilians too. what china have is a society that is safe, it took them many years to accomplish it. as a country, and as a leader or official of a country, your number one priority is to provide a safe environment for your citizen. America is the greatest country in the world, but our 2 party systems arefilled w idiots that can't do sht. too many guns, people afraid to go out. high crime . it is getting out of hand.
when you have 1.4 billion people, it is not easy to achieve what they did.
I think there's a big difference in civil liberties between the "western" world and China, and you list a few examples in your comment. Yes, the CPC enacts authoritarian policies that it thinks are in the best interest of society. Besides the ones you list there is also Xi's Zero COVID policy, which included locking people into their homes without access to food, wrecking the economy, and then spreading COVID just as much and killing just as many people when these are listed. Then there's the One Child Policy, which although lifted has still created a demographic cliff edge for China's economy. I don't doubt that the CPC sometimes bans something that isn't good for people, but these policies don't often work without causing damage in other areas, and other CPC policies cause LOTS of harm. I'd rather live in a society where we are allowed to think for ourselves.
@@FredoRockwell 蒙古國的自由與民主程度也沒很好吧。南美洲也一堆獨立但獨裁的國家。Native Americans own less in their mother land of American continent but you don't care about it because you work for the west.
@@FredoRockwell You're saying that because you live in a developed nation with a high standard of living and income. People in these countries can barely afford to feed themselves. For them, putting food on the table and living day to day is more important than having the ability to cuss our your government.
Priorities change as standard of living change and people get wealthier. Developing nations need a central government with strong rule otherwise you end up like the many failed democratic states in Africa and South America. What's the point of having civil liberties if you're going to starve to death the next day?
And yes it is a trade off. China's economic growth is widely attributed to its strong central government and lack of barriers. Yes, people might not be able to say certain things or influence their government significantly but in return the quality of life has increased significantly in the recent years