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Gotta give props to Rob for not putting Malcolm's name in the title for more views, very respectful.
87ironFTW Thanks man, yes 100% did not want to ride the band wagon.
Malcolm was still alive when this was filmed. Duh. HAHA!
But the vid was uploaded after. It's not like people can't change the title before uploading right?
wow such integrity
87ironFTW agreed 100%. That said I’d gladly take a punch full force in the face for an opportunity to buy one of those Malcolm Models
Well the Malcolm Young Gretsch sold straight away, whoever got it is a lucky person! :-)
Rob Chapman no doubt about it
Malcolm we salut you 🤘🤘🤘
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Kinda crazy how they filmed this right before he died
Flash93933 same thing with Bea and Matt before Chris Cornell died ... coincidence ?
ASS EETER BRO ARE THEY KILLING THEM BY MAKING THESE VIDEOS
chapman did a live strem on facebook yesteraday and he said that this video was ready and the next day he saw that malcom young died
Which means these guitars are worth more than 10k, as sad as that sounds
Malc was hanging on until he saw on the chapman page that this video was done. Then, his work on this planet was complete
I recognized that guitar instantly. R.I.P Malcom and George Young. So sad to have them pass so close in time.
Rest in peace to one of the best rhythm guitar players in history! Malcolm Young🤘we salute you!
Malcolm and Angus was the two guitarists that tought me to play, and understand music. Body, mind, heart and soul!! HEROES NEVER DIE!!!! I'm taking a pies of AC/DC's torch and carry on their ideas, attitude, music, heart and soul! R.I.P Malcolm! You are a God! Thank you for Everything! I'll see you and Bon in Valhall! We'll Rock'n'Roll Forever! :D
Film a video on Malcolm's guitar and he sadly dies .... could you do Justin Bieber's microphone next ....just in case ...
Whahahahahaaaaaaa!!! Good one!
sdmcustom woodworking that was not nice sir, but it made me lmao
Happened the same with chris cornell
I have no interest in Bieber, but wishing him dead is a karma curse waiting to happen.
Bieber's stupidity cancels out the negative Karma.
Rock In Peace Mal
A rock n roll legend, an Aussie hero and most importantly, a kickarse guitarist
No matter what.. I just cant justify spending 10k on wood. No matter how nicely it is crafted
AllKeys JamTracks i would rather spend it on hardcore drugs which will make everything nicely crafted if you know what im saying
I wouldn't give five hundred to just wood, but there is just so much more to it...
That's what she said .... :-0
Would max use 1.5K dollars on a guitar!a nice rg prestige and put Dimarzios for my taste!
It's not just that. Honestly, acoustic instruments are a different beast. Even with guitars there is a huge difference between an expensive classical guitar and a very expensive classical guitar. With electrics after a certain price point depending on brand(which is usually not particularly high), you don't really get much worth if any.
There is a happy compromise between these two axes. The Gretsch 6128T-1962 Duo Jet with Bigsby Double Cutaway. It is Basically Mal's guitar in it's original form from when he first bought it. He sanded the paint off (originally red) and did the other mods over time. $2,000. Perfect, with no compromises.
That guitar took about a decade to go from the stock 63 Double -Jet that Malcom was given, to how it ended up. The Trem was removed so it would stay in tune, he didn't need Trem playing Rythym as for the 2 volume knows ther were originally 3. The silver button on the bottom covered the hole from the Bridge Pickup Volume. The idea was to use the individual pickup volumes and tone to get the sound you wanted, then fine tune with the Master Volume on the Cut. The original, was used by Malcom on I believe EVERY studio album AC/DC recorded, and in every live show, he had an identical 63 set exactly the same as his second (Malcom 's backup, is what his nephew Steve plays now) ONE Guitar, Set up One way, ALWAYS in Tune, and History was made.
Listen to Scott Ian playing it. You’ll get a real appreciation of the beast. These blokes have no idea
Love that video
Fair Bloody Dinkum, Malcolm's looking down and thinking what the fucking hell are they doing?
And then talk about always playing in tune with his polytune, whilst the guitar is out of tune.
Lol
I haven't seen many answers to the question; I thought the 429.00 guitar sounded way better, clean or dirty. Lots more versatile.
Agreed, the people who paid the ridiculous price got robbed!
Really needed one guy playing both guitars through one amp. That’s if you want fairness.
The tree basswood comes from is called the Tilia. It’s called “basswood” because of it commonly being found fallen into lakes and rivers. Bass fish love to hunt from under fallen trees, hence the name. Cheers, mates!
So do Brits pronounce the fish bass or bass? Short a or long a?
For the fish it's a short A like the A in Angus Young, long A for the bass guitar
Why would you tone test 2 guitars without using the same amp? Is that even a tone test?
Same amp , same effects at the same time - that's how you compare.
We need a do over.
some random loser Thats not how they explained it in the beginning and it took them damn near all the way to the end to finally start doing that. I left the comment after because I knew I'd trigger some random loser into freaking out about it.
Very good point very good
also it should be played by the same player. if they each played a riff on the same guitar it would sound different sine a lot of the tone starts at the fingers.
Agree
Flame top in natural finish!
Steve Maass thanks!
Garegh62 Gee, you seem like such a nice person, but perhaps you don't listen or comprehend well. They already said it was going to be a flame top, which I was reiterating in my reply. My suggestion was for a natural, how did you put it... FINISH.
Great channel, really enjoying each video posted
Film Camera Reviews Thanks dude :-)
Before the Malcom Young model, Gretch had a Eddie Cochran model that was relic'd and cost about the same. I for one am glad they take the time to recreate this history and the sound of these very special instruments. I personally will not own one, but that is my personal decision. I want to put my own scuffs and dents in my own guitbox. A collector that has deep pockets may lust after it and could afford it with no pain. I say go for it my friend.
I love you Rob but I wish someone who appreciated the history behind Malcolm's Grestch did this review, and someone who could dial in a clean Malcolm tone. His main Gretsch is truly one of a kind and heavily modified through the years, Malcolm picked off the original red drum skin colour with a screwdriver, he added the 3rd (middle pickup) before removing both the neck and middle pickups (the removal of their magnetism affects the string vibration and tone), the bridge has been changed positions and type many times among other things. It couldn't just be recreated by building a 'new' guitar. There are only 40 of these guitars being made and they will all sell out and become major collectors pieces. $10k is too much but I understand why Gretsch have priced it that way.
This, in my honest humble uninformed opinion, is a better buy than the stupid Ace Frehley Gibson LP that sold for $10K......
well said
So are you saying they went through that entire process to build the guitar or what are you saying? how does the process malcom young went through with his guitar add value to these remakes?
Mal’s reissue sure has a handle with the drive as compared with the lower priced Gretsch. I’d be tempted to pull the cheaper pickups and install one better pickup on the bridge and the tone differences should disappear.
I wonder if rolling tone back more would help take some of the shrill off
Malcolm was literally the reason I started playing guitar
I've always ended up fronting bands, but my ambition was, and still is, to be the "Malcolm" of the band, holding it all together and keeping it solid.
me too, and buy Gretsch
If you’re gonna play Mal’s guitar you HAVE to play
AC/DC.
13:30
@@calebm9000 what 10 seconds worth?
No doubt that it will be copyright related.
Once you fit a treble bleed to any Gretsch master volume it will transform the guitar. Great vid guys thanks for uploading!
I have no problem with the Malcom Young guitar. It’s as Rob said, a museum piece that must have cost Gretsch a fortune to make in such small numbers. As a collector and ACDC fan myself I’d like one because I think it will be sought after in the future, just not sure I can afford it!
You uploaded it one day after malcolms death...rip malcolm
Tobacco Burst I say. And hopefully that flamed top will have some serious flames... U know...
Gabriel Gómez awesome thanks!
Just wanted to let you know that because of you and few other CZcamsrs here that I am picking up my guitar again after 3 years. a little back story I had surgery of both of my feet on November 1st and of 2017 due to complications from diabetes. When I returned home on November 3rd, I found myself depressed and biting at family and friends. When I found out I would not be able to go back to work or be on my feet for a minimum of 2 months my depression worsened. So one weekend I sat and went thru youtube and watched quite a few of your videos and realised that instead of wasting this time feeling sorry for myself I should do something. So with my daughter's help, I dusted off my Squire Bullet tele, reloaded my guitar software (brand omitted) and started relearning exactly how enjoyable and painful playing and strumming was. And my family told me there was actually a smile starting to show on my face again.SO in short I wanted to give my thanks and admiration to you for helping a lost soul find the path again. I know I have a huge task in front of me but if I can play a1/3 as well as you do them I will have accomplished where I have set the bar for me . Again thank you for all you do for us the fans. And to any of you trolls who think this s a pitch to try to get free stuff, you are bigger idiots than I thought. I already have a fund (set up by myself and my wife) to get better gear and things so I am not looking for handouts. This is simply a thank you anda handshake to a great player and human being that gave me some needed inspiration to get off my proverbial ass and get back to work honing my somewhat nonexistent skills
RIP Malcolm, you will be missed by fans and guitarists everywhere.
Better audio on the Riff City vids. Yay! However, is this green screened? Could just be the lighting and focus on the cam.
That Malcom Young guitar is gonna be even more expensive now...
Rip Malcom Young
The Malcolm Young signature looks and sounds amazing. Because they are limited, the steep price would be an investment and will continue to climb in value for the foreseeable future as Malcolm's legend continues on its legacy. As a personal favorite of mine for 37yrs Malcolm will always be "the riff maker" that was, and will ever be.
Why is everyone complaining about the guitar being so expensive? The amount of researchers that goes into creating a guitar like that is mind boggling. And it's a very limited run.
Eron Roberts Only one researcher, Malcolm himself.
to much talking crap, just play damn AC/DC on the MY guitar, forget that finger crap and how dare he sully that with reverb
I've got a real 1963 Gretsch Jet Firebird in the exact style of Malcolms original (bone stock in the original red colour). RIP Malcolm.
Nice. I'd rather have that.
One for sale on Reverb with it's own historical pedigree. Says was a studio guitar. Looks in great condition..
All yours for $4995 plus shipping.
Got a link, I can't find it. 5k is a STEAL for one these days. I've seen them change hands for 12k+ privately.
Hmmm, can't find anymore either. Maybe sold.
Are a few others that one looked especially nice.
I see a few similar ones, but none that match the spec perfectly. Its those ones that are sought after.
G5220 owner here (same guitar with V-shaped stop piece). Beautiful and awesome sounding guitar.
Yes, it is very cool that companies like Gretsch will offer a relic guitar with a production run that equals the market. Personally, I would be much more apt to pick up the shiny new model even if much more expensive. For a flame top, I'd have to go with the Gretsch orange.
Great intro!
Rock in peace Malcom😊
That was one of the greatest gawddamn videos I have ever seen with my terrestrial-eyes©
That low price Gretsch looked and sounded very impressive. A nice flame red version would suit me...
Ya, im with you on that
People loosing there minds over it being 10k are just funny, if don't like then good for you they arn't telling you to buy it or unsub like jesus it is a guitar channel showing you cool and different guitars and also the people that are complaining obviously don't understand how guitar building works when it comes to custom or limited edition, 50 guitars in total made, made to Malcolm Young's spec and what he actually plays so you can have Malcolm's guitar without stealing it from him and they arn't all gonna sell(usually) so they are priced so that even if they only sell a few they can stay in the black and not go bankrupt like Gibson is.
Hey guys!, great job (as usual). As a MASSIVE Zakk Wylde fan, what is that amp behind you?!!!, never heard of it???!..please tell me hahaha. Cheers from Sweden
The point of removing two pickups is that it makes the string vibrate without being affected by the magnets in those pickups.
Just ordered a tangerine sparkle , should be here in a couple days! I bought based on this video so. I’m in America and I love your videos and I’m putting my faith in you. I let you know. Thanks guys.
RIP Malcom
Holes of Opportunity? Isn't that your mom's twitter account name?
MWUHAHHAHHAHAHA
Must admit I've not read all the posts, but as a guitarist, what I look for is in the feel & detail more than just the 'blond' colour - its a shame that it was not mentioned at all in the vid. the major difference between the cheaper model and the tribute one (and the cheaper MY model - around £2k+) is the whole weight / feel / height of neck where it joins the body and therefore action / overall acoustic nature, of the more costly one - the real difference for the player, is one actually feels like you are playing an original 60's 'jet', whereas the other has the feel of a more modern guitar - very different set ups and consequently very different playing experiences.... I did once own an original 60's 6121, and to me the 'MY' models do have that feel, which the other Gretsch models don't (down to the overall construction - not the missing bits I must add).
The very first time you bump that M.Y. signature model on the corner of a table, it deviates from Malcolm's.
RIP Malcolm Young!!
RIP best rhythm guitar player in history
CoolSkulls117 most Dead Heads would disagree with you. Watch “The Other One” on Netflix.
If there is a man better - he better rock more than AC/DC.
I'd put my money on Malcolm.
Finally a Rob CHapman video with a decent amount of clean tone playing. Not everyone uses distortion and would like to hear more clean playing on your videos. Just my input. But I do love the videos. I just get tired of all the distortion and mute it. LOL
As a master Luther I can't tell you how exited I get when someone comes to me to "relic" their instrument. I yell upstairs to my wife "Honey get me my hammer we got another one!!" Then we goto Red Lobster.
The Malcolm Young Is a fantastic guitar but 10k is steep. Unless you are a super AC/DC or Malcolm Young fan you will not want to spend that amount. R.I.P Malcolm.
DJ ACE SOUND A guy in my town bought one. I was at the store when he took it out of the box. It was goddamn glorious. I've had lots of guitars but I've never wanted one as bad as I wanted that one. Seriously amazing guitar.
Can't say I'm a fan of the "copy somebody's guitar down to the last ding" thing. I think Malcolm's original guitar is way cool, but an expensive copy of his exact guitar isn't my thing. I'd prefer a new guitar, and put my own dings and scratches on it from using it. That Electromatic looks cool, though (love that natural finish). Give me something like that, with TV Jones pickups and locking tuners.
For a custom finish, I'd go with transparent blue or lemon.
I have respect for them not using Malcom's death, leaving his name out of the title even though it is perfectly reasonable to be there.
Dave's getting really good on camera in these now. Good.
RIP MALCOM YOUNG..... BIG GUN .......
OK...the guitars are cool and all, but what is that Black Label Audio amp directly behind you?? Is this a Wylde Audio amp that has finally seen the light of day ?? Details, man..we need details!
scott munden more to come
Looking forward to it, cus I've spent ages googling this with literally no results
Riff City Guitar & Music Company have these come out yet??
such a pleasure listening to Dave with his bass player background and yet..playing so tastefully..
Honey burst for me. The natural looks great though but when I think of the most aesthetically pleasing guitar colors the honey burst is what I think of!
RIP Malcom. Also RIP your wallet when you buy his guitar
When you’re here before it blowing up:)
Wow... you liked it...🎉🎉
I’d do something no one else has done yet. My custom shop build would be: Weathered gray top stain with a bright orange stained back/sides/neck/back of headstock, and white binding around body and neck, white TUSQ nut. Black front of headstock MOP Gretsch logo. Nickel rings (around the pickups), bridge, tuners, etc. Like the absence of the pick guard as well on the natural you have here. I’d drop the pick guard. Gibson did some metal truss rod covers that were engraved that looked pretty sick too (I’d have a 12ax7 tube etched in mine). Fenders new cases that the American strats come in are great. Add $120 to the price and toss in a nice case. Gray with matching orange interior? At $679 with the bigsby or $599 w/o that would be amazing.
Transparent Cadillac blue. That flame is gorgeous!
Definitely not worth 10K. This is absolutely insane and indecent!! A total ripoff, no matter how well crafted it is.
Stephen S. Nabet but its malcolm young
Tim Kleinbussink So?? LOL
You're not paying for the guitar or wood. You're paying for an art piece. Kind of like why a paint on a canvas would cost millions of dollars (Mona Lisa)
Yiperman An art piece?? Seriously??!! LOL
Yes.
RIP Mal
Hi guys.
Actually I know John & Rick Brewster from the Angels and they were in Alberts in the 1970's with AC/DC when the bridge pickup of Malcolm's Gretsch died so he took out the neck pup and put it in the bridge and say "yeah, this sounds alright", the rest is history.
Rock on
Dwight
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The one on the left is an actual guitar. The one on the right is a wall decoration for doctors and lawyers.
Sig model sounds absolutely phenomenal. Love that tone. The other one looks ace but (subjectively/personally) I just don't dig the tones of basswood bodies.
Black Label Audio Gear in the Background? What is that????
Ive searched all over the net & cant find it. Wylde Audio only shows guitars & nothing to be found under the Black Label Audio name either. Even Riff City website doesn't show it. Whats up with that ? Guess we will find out soon enough .
Yes, more to come...very special story. It’s a one of a kind
Its zakk's version of a jcm 800.
I’m sure it wasn’t in the background by mistake.
ToneChaser74 the only thing I could find, were black label audio speakers on zzounds, so I assume Zakk just made a different division for the amp/cab stuff.
Things are worth whatever people decide they are worth, and, in a desert, a bottle of water is priceless.
You really let him of the hook with the "I need to warm up my mouth" comment.
I'd probably pay the 10k.. call me crazy... theres only 50 available.. the value will most likely hold..
Rip malcum young 😭
Gretsch CS replica series guitars are not meant to appeal to the masses, which is why they only make small runs. They appeal to a small demographic of players that appreciate these details in an attempt to own a piece of rock n roll history and will spend quite a bit of money to achieve that. They’re not for everyone and Gretsch certainly knows that but they succeeded in making 50 players really happy with this model and set the bar for all of us when it comes to replica guitars so I would say that’s a job well done.
Just bought my Ghost Fret Pro from Riff City. Those guys are great.
PURPLE! MAKE IT PURPLE!
So basicaly you are paying a shitload more to get less pickups and a destroyed guitar ? What a deal... NOT ?!
Actually, you are paying for a guitar which replicates as closely as possible a guitar played for about 40 years, from one of the biggest bands in history of music. That, my friend, is not easy to do. Especially when they try to replicate looks, feel, weight, sound, and even more.
Ignorance is bliss.
Never said it is worth it. I would never pay for a guitar like that, since I much rather get a vintage one with that money. I was just explaining what is that you're actually paying for. I appreciate the effor that goes into thesetype of instruments, but just as art, not as something I would buy. Obviously it will never be the original, that is a very stupid thing to say. Nevertheless, I am sure it is a great instrument.
I promise you that the original guitar is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars... 10k is the replica price.
AMEN.
I was just about to look for a review of the Gretsch Pro Jet since we're thinking about ordering one from RC and here it is...RIP Malcolm. Crazy timing for sure.
Flamed maple with a satin Walnut stain would be AMAZING. Satin finish the neck as well and it would be really special
I used to enjoy watching Rob Chapman. But the events of the last 6 months leave nothing but a bad taste in the mouth that seems to infect everything I now see and hear of the Man
I know what you mean - do you think that is fair or right or just someone else's toxins? Who is to know?
I prefer to wear in my own guitars.
Identity crisis, - if you have to have the exact nick's and dings in your guitar that some preformer has, your money would be better spent on advanced lessons.
best sound I've ever heard out of rob. absolutely awesome.
Here's my suggestion for the flame topped finish, and I of course would appreciate some credit if you decide the idea is as unique and cool as I do (and potential a job just designing guitar finishes). OK, hear me out on this as it might not settle well after first read through. I have never really seen, and I think it would be very interesting, to have a guitar finish that was a transparent, anemic white. If you are familiar with a furniture finish that is referred to as a pickled finish that is often seen on oak, this is what I'm referring to. Oak can have a warm natural finish, so the "pickled white" can look just like a warm translucent white. If the flamed top is maple, maybe just adding one red drop to the pickling finish to warm up the transparency. Anyway, that's my suggestion.
Excellent comparison video!! Thanks!
Dave is an incredibly expressive player! Damn
Cheaper guitar wins this round IMO but I must add i'm torn because I just love the blues Dave plays. Always enjoy the videos everyone!
Hey to each their own when spending money on a guitar. The Malcom-stein guitar looks great and I appreciate an accurate relic job. The 10k tag just isn't for me. It's great to see that Gretch puts solid work into their $400 guitar that give players a good sounding instrument, kudos.
In terms of the color for a flamed cap Gretch, I'd love to see the traditional Gretch orange and royal blue stain over a flamey cap *drool*
Had to like this just for the Caribou Coffee (instead of Starbucks) at the end. That's so Minnesota.
A cool Flame top would be a red/dark orange on the main spikes and then have a blue gradient from the center of the flame going from blue, like deep royal blue to the red/orange
Purple or Orange burst gets my vote. I already purchased the Tangerine from Riff City. Great guitar! I'd buy another one in purple ;)
LOVE-ing the Jet!
Brag time...
Years & years ago (about 1991 I think?) I was living in Balmain. Went to the local one night (just local people...maybe 6 in the whole bar) and mate & I are shooting pool and I'm making my way through a bottle of JD.
So, these 2 short guys walk in, put 50 cents (that's what a rack cost then...no, not that rack) onto the table, then asked me "hey, you wanna play dubs?" Yep, no wuzzes. I look at the dude who asks about "dubs" and think (it was a bad week...) out aloud "I know you 2 from somewhere..."
"My name is Malcolm and this is me bruvva Angus. We play in a band you've probably heard about....AC/DC?" They lived in same street my mates mum lived in...a restored mansion once known as Cockroach Mansion...and I got them to accompany me at full flight at 12am "Its a long way to shop, if you wanna sausage roll."
I find it infinitely interesting how Dave’s technique is very unique, you can really hear his bass playing in his guitar playing however he just adapts his own unique style
Good job Rob I was going to buy a ml1 modern standard but you persuaded me to spend my $500 differently
the malcolm model is more acoustic and woody. open holes are changing it.
new model is sharper sounding possibly because it is closed.
the master volumne knob allows you to retain some top end when dialling volume down on pickups.
8:20 you Rob nearly held the smirk.
It's awesome how well the eletromatic sounded
I like both guitars, I couldn't ever spend 10k on any guitar but some people obviously do buy them and good for them.I wonder if Malcolm would have even spent that much on a guitar, he played this guitar forever even though he could afford anything he wanted. He obviously customized it himself. As for the flame top, I think it needs to be a natural finish flame top.
Hey guys awesome video! Ive always really enjoyed a nice antique brown flame top, just something about it